Line 6 HX Effects | Reverb Tone Report
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- Line 6's new HX Effects pedal demonstrates how to change the world of multi-effects units, and is packed with over 100 different effects for curious and experimental players to try. Join Andy as he takes a deep dive into the world of the Line 6 HX today.
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Andy unknowingly wrote a new Rush album in this demo.
I hear that too!
Andy is, has, and always will be the MAN when it comes to demoing Effects. Great Job Andy !!!
Great demo. Love it
he's smiling, he likes it :) that's the best recommendation from Andy, I guess I need to get one now...
Very clear demo. Thank you man!
In short, if you have an amp you love, and a pedal board that works, you can add this in and never want for another sound or tone again... Line 6... You may be on to something great here! I use my HD500x for just effects now, and this is a huge leap forward. I think you folks at Line 6 have been listening.
I want one !!!
Line 6 has had the M-Series Multieffects boards (have a professor who swears by the M-13). They've just updated the engine to the one running the Helix.
Couldn't agree more. If you can place the FX loops anywhere in the chain, then I'm sold.
tonellojohn the M series stuff is awesome. I just feel this format and I/O system are superior.
you can, and if it is anything like my helix you can move the fx loops around per snapshot, so you could have an OD you love in front of certain effects in one snapshot and move it somewhere else in another
This is what I want. I love the idea of the Helix, but I don't need a bajillion amp tones. I'd really only buy it for its effects catalogue, so spending so much money on it to get something I don't need doesn't appeal to me.
Ok, this actually sounds really really good. I guess I'm gonna save up for this one.
Just ordered one of these. Cannot wait for it to arrive!!! So excited!!!!
So is it doing you any good?
@@MrRolignu I love it. It's the most important part of my pedalboard right now.
MrJG Sounds great. I guess that settles it for me then🙌
Now, Andy knows how to do demos.
Him & Brett Kingman & Harry Maes, are 3 of the best on TH-cam.
Come on Henning, try some of the guy's for the next Guitcon.
The 1st Guitcon was awesome.
This should sell like Bananas,
Sounds really good..
i might buy this and sell off my expensive pedals for beer hahahah
Oh I want! 🔥🔥🔥 this is so good.
It's nice to see Andy with a posh Suhr guitar (he totally deserves because he is an amazing player) but I kinda miss the nostalgia accent of old guitars (especially the Hagstrom!).
i am like 75% on getting this. have always been a fan of their modulation, delays and verbs. combining that with the preset and signal flow options at a $600 price point is off da chain.
What is the great tune in the background starting at 1:04? I am also wondering what effects are on it to get that sound (sounds like a deep vibrato). Great demo as always - Thanks!
The Modulation effects sound incredible. I am less taken with the drive effects. They sound like a pedal to me. But maybe in a room, through an amp the drive effects are more convincing. What is the length limit of the looper? ..and what is that tele in the first part of the demo? Sounds great!
Andy is so good.
Hi !
I was wondering what makes the Nova so great ? The unit is quite old ... is there something very special about it ? I am considering buying it but what when comparing with line 6 hx Effects ?
That sounds versitile and good presentation
What are the cords to that opening riff? Is it a A/D/G with some hammer-ons?
Hey, I’ve got a couple questions.
1) Are you able to have it so when you select a different button, it automatically turns the previous one off instead of having 2 effects on at once?
2) Can you set presets to turn on/off your actual physical pedals too like a looper button would?
johnpickk yes to both, turning off physical pedals would need to be done through the effects loop.
Creativity oozes out from him.
I love mine 🤘🏼
im guessing theres an expression pedal that can be bought separately...
Andy! Is that a cover of Built to Spill's Things Fall Apart at the end?! It sure sounds inspired by it at the very least! If so, you're my hero!
I see most of his reverbs in this video are the old Legacy reverbs. I have tried all of the newer verbs and they all sound gritty and modulated. I find myself never using the new ones. I love Legacy Plate a lot and Legacy Hall. I can use them very wet and they still sound good. For ambient and lush though, I use a Strymon Blue Sky. SO MUCH BETTER!
this is the solution to kemper's lack of effects
This is awesome
Hey Alex!
I have had the HX for about a year. I also have a board with some of the actual boxes emulated (Klon, Fender Reverb Unit, Slow Gear, PN-2, DM-2). It sounds very good but L6 support is terrible and it won’t channel switch my Soldano. Even sent it L6 and they said they fixed it and it doesn’t work. Good for taking to places you wouldn’t want an expensive board and easy to move.
Can we compare all line 6 multiple effects peadals please
Anyone have any idea, will this thing switch the channels on my carol ann three channels amp? The footswitch is broke.
What color is that Suhr and is it satin? (2:53)
Imagine this thing put into the FX loop on a Helix that you already have.
That's at least 20 different effects.
FlakaFlam how many go f3 do u need though? Clean, crunch, high gain, fuzz, compression. That’s it for me.
Hahaha i laughed so hard. Perfect solution!
was thinking the same thing. Need more FXs for my FXs
Billy Corgan does this
Is this truth?
Dang Andy!!! Nice playing!!!
One thing I'm not sure of,does it feature the same quality audio/algorithms of the high end Helix models or is more like say the m9/m13 end(which I already have and wish to upgrade in FX audio quality)
Helix all the way.
Not convinced re: the fuzz but otherwise this thing sounds amazing.
Ok, it's right on the tip of my tongue and probably something obvious...but what is the tune starting at about 0:38???
I didn’t quite understand the bit about it modeling transistors and being able to recreate your favorite drive pedals. Can you tweak things down to the transistor level?
Robert Simpson I know that for the main helix amp/effect models they went through and wrote code to simulate every single component in the circuits, which is why they sound so good. Now as to whether or not you can tweak the parameters of those individual components I’m not sure... that would be insane!
Can you route the effects differently? Drives and fuzzes to the front and modulation and spade to the loop?
yes
Hey there lol :]
I create tracks all day... and used to use Pod Farm 2 to go thru hundreds of cool presets looking for inspiration for the next part I was tracking. There were so many cool fx chains (and song/artist styles) people made to download free, so there were hundreds of tones/sounds I would have never dialed in that I could use. Now I'd like to add something on my studio pedalboard ...to add that kind of variety of pre-made flavors I could use for my recordings. Does the HX Effect allow me to load up a bunch of presets like that... and do they still offer a forum to find & download for HX Effects? I use a Kemper for most amp tones now so that part is not needed. Thanks!
I have used line 6 for so many years , From Verbzilla & Echo park pedals to M-13 , that one is a work horse! My question - can one get the "Steel String" clone effect of the dumble on the HX ? I have the HX and rather than torture myself with the overdrive section which btw , They should lower all the gain@ the factory , unless you enjoy loud 4 feet away from your ears while trying to find a suitable overdrive .ha ha its crazy ! thank you , you always do great demos ,good for you :)
what did you use for the synth string effect @ 5:45?
nevermind didnt realize you get new effects when u do a firmware update
it's like a refreshed M Series. cooooool
I am really interested in buying this unit to use in front of a clean Fender HRD (my go-to amp for clean tone, that I use at least 50% of the time). My big concern is: does the Helix HX changes the basic tone of the amp when bypassed? Or should I use a buffer, specific settings, change the amp EQ etc?
it doesn't, its true bypass
I'm curious about the looper -- max loop time?
like 40 sec
20mins
That Classic S sounds really good... Modulations from the unit are really luscious as well. This will sell a TON. At $599, IR hosting capability alone is worth the price of admission. Add in the amp channel switching, lots and lots of possibility. You could design a pedalboard that can be used with your regular amp rig (mono or stereo) or a direct rig with a preamp of some sort.
Wow
😱
I use my Digitech GSP1101 exactly for this: Virtual stompboxes in front of my real tube head. Multi FX, Wah, Compressor, Noisegate, EQ in the effects loop. All in one unit. Advantage of this: Only one CAT5 cable to front of stage (Control 2 floorboard, phantom powered). Disadvantage: No amp switching without additional device, stompboxes can't boost.
This new Line6 is very similar and like a prototype for future modellers: They will model everything, but not the tube sound. That will come from devices like the Synergy Syn-2.
What i don't like about the Line6 is that it is in pedal form and needs multiple cables run to front of stage and it does not have a wah pedal. The BIG question about it is: Is the send jack behind the fuzz pedals able to boost the input of the a tube amp, like real pedals can? If not, this is not really a step forward and my Digitech can stay where it is, i just switch the amp model section to "external amp" and it does the same.
It seems strange to me that this kind of use for modellers is the best idea ever to get the best of both worlds and make any amp multi channel, but no company does it right. Wether it lacks true bypass or the virtual overdrive pedals can't boost, or the sheer amount of cables, power supplies and expression pedals immediately give me back my stompbox-park feeling, or the damn amp switch is missing - the perfect digital device to "wrap around" my tube head via 4 cable method has not been made yet.
This may be the answer! Maybe you’ll know this...I just bought the orange rocker 32 and am running stereo thru the fx loop. With this allow me to run some thru the front of the amp (drives, comp etc) and then stereo from the back of the amp?
Yes
Doc Brown thank you!
Chris Riddle how are you liking it? My HX arrives next week. Going to do a Wet/Dry setup with my two 6505MH's.
Wow! Never heard phaser and delay before! I think they really have something here..
Wow, does it do intelligent pitch shifting n octave stuff too? Really just overwhelmed with the awesome products this year!! Haha
Nice demo, enough to get me to go and have a look because it did leave me with lots of questions. Not the least of it which is.... exactly how is he picking? He appears to be holding one, the strings sound like they are being hit with a lock but he goes into finger picking without seemingly stashing a pick and goes back to picking as effortlessly... is he using a pick?
I don't believe he uses a pick
Andy plays as I do with an invisible pick !
Wow those Fuzzes sound way better than the ones in the Axe Fx 2. I know I have had one for around 4-5 years and I can't get them to sound that good.
I'm sure they sound great in person too, but remember they are EQing these tones professionally before uploading them. The tones will not sound like this in person.
Does anyone know, if this unit will incorporate the trippy ambient reverb patches of the Helix ?
It has every effect In the helix
4:38 has me groovin so hard right now!
How is this different than the M-series of effects?
This contains the helix effects...they are entirely new engines. Plus it also contains all of the legacy effects from the pod an M series units.
The other big difference is that if you want to set this to 6 drive units you can. This also has preset mode. You can set up to 9 effects to each button, and set them up as clean, crunch, lead, and ambient...or whate e presets you would use
Will this sound good through a 15watt tube amp or is it designed to be played through a PA type setup
amp . . either in the effects loop or in the front.
Amp. IRs can be loaded to tweak into PA applications.
Does this have amp/preamp sims also or only effects?
it's only effects
How would you use this with an expression pedal?
It has two exp inputs for controlling assignable parameters, like volume and wah sweep, but you can patch to any param you want. The exp input can also be outputs to do stuff like channel switch your amp.
Who makes the guitars please? I would love to know who made each?
jon lennon SUHR. The black relic Strat I have no idea. Sorry.
Redtail DG Strat
Andy's Dad builds the Redtail guitars
Really like my hx effects. You have to spend some time with it, but it’s worth it.
But hey, line 6, it wouldn’t put you out of buisness to put a few amp modelers in the next update!
Real talk I just discovered the Particle Verb on my old HD400 and it's killing me that I cant find a good alternative to go on my actual pedal board. It's such a great, usable sound.
Robbin Wolfe I too wanted this. I'm using the line 6 m5. Pretty useful pedal.
Yeah grab an m5 it's worth the price for that effect alone. Zoom also has a pretty spot on version of particle in their MS series etc. And a Line 6 Verbzilla has it in smaller pedal format as well.
This has all the M series effects included. They are under the “legacy” folder in every effect type. Particle verbs in there.
Hi guys I got a question about the HX? I just bought one and to me it's rocket science!!! I just want to have some reverbs,delays,some modulation and that's about it!! No OD ,distortion,fuzz or nothing!! I like the overdrive and distortion on my Orange rockerverb 50c mkiii... Should I just run this through the front of my amp like a regular pedalboard?? Or in the effects loop?? Also I tried the 4 cable method!! No knobs on my amp work now!! No volume,channel switching!! Is 4 cable method better sounding??? I need help??? I already read the manual!!! Any help would be appreciated 👍
You need to add the FX loop as one of your 'pedals'... it's in the manual
Jonathan Cooper Thanx Jonathan will do👍
Any tone loss in 4 cable method?
peterv25 i have the original helix and despite what everyone says there is a noticeable compression in 4cable method , but in a gig it wouldnt be a big deal.
peterv25 unfortunately, using the fx loops in any capacity increases hiss and buzz and compresses. It’s enough for me to render them both utterly useless. I eventually just started using HX drives and fx straight into a high headroom non master volume combo amp. Everything sounds great like this but I have serious doubts about its performance with a high gain amp with 4 cable method.
Just pushed a turd out that made my hair on the back of neck stand up. Thanks Andy.
Whats the first song he plays?
this all sounds really good.... but i doubt I'd ever buy. There's something about the history of classic effects pedals that I just love. There's so much history in a little phase 90 or a classic big muff that i just prefer that.
I also would never buy a kindle.
I literally just bought both
I'll wait and see if regular guitarists can get good dirt sounds out of it, I'm not taking Andy's word for it! I guess you could put your amp in the fx loop of the pedal and have pre/post fx on the go?
exactly- and load your own cab IR's for a travel rig.
Noob question...is being able to load IR's still useful if this unit lacks pre-amp/amp models? Thanks...
Not a noob question at all. some guys use acoustic guitar IR's to great results. You could also use it with a load box and an amp head (loading a cab IR into the unit) to go direct
Can I use it with an acoustic guitar?
Opheos Media Yes absolutely ! Same with a bass !!
But, it isn't available on reverb.com as you suggest in the vid, Andy.
I'm not sure it's out yet. It's been released but I don't know if anyone has it yet.
Just watch the video again in a couple months and it'll be accurate 😁
salmonline End of January, Sweetwater already has preorders
TheWaterbound07 Sweetwater and select GCs already had them available yesterday (day 1). Many were shipped out to customers yesterday (same day 1) and received by customers today.
Apparently univibe, just as particular drives, is REALLY tough to emulate, 'cause I am yet to see anybody doing it properly. I have Kemper and univibe there is just horrendous. This one is better, but just a tiny bit. The rest of effects sounded really decent to my ears.
Go with DryBell. Easily the best both soundwise & spacewise
Even real univibes sometimes would have a hard time emulating other univibes. Component tolerances were all over the map, as well as the lightbulb used would react differently new vs used, as well as temperature affected how it reacted.
Let's be honest, the effects in the Kemper as a whole are pretty shite. I love the amps but the effects are really nowhere near the same quality. The pitch effects especially are absolutely crap. Running an HX Effects with it looks like a great setup except for having to run cables again :( I wish Kemper would invest in upgrading the stomps, they jumped ahead but now they're standing still while the world catches up.
Joris Griffioen I'd say most effects are fine for me, I only hate univibe and find reverb quite unsophisticated. I absolutely love Kemper anyways. It's amazing how a 4-year old device is still the best digital amp available.
Have you checked out the Mojo Hand Fx Villa Nova Vibe? I love it.
M13???
As a Swiss Army knife type of thing where you might need just one specialist sound here and there this works. Will it replace my main pedals? Er, no!
But does it djent?
Did Andy get another job?
Farewell m9
Andy could make playing a rubber band strung garbage can sound like Lez Zeppelin live at the Royal Albert Hall. Question - does the HX effects contain all the new pedals with 2.8 software release and will that be the case for future software releases? I realize amp and cab modeling wouldn't apply to the HX but I'm talking about pedals and potential other future greats. HINT LINE 6 - Please copy half of Catalinbread and Earthquakers pedal catalog for your next update ...
Does it have amp models?
Brian Cox no. No amps, no cabs. Just the helix effects, and the M series effects.
no. that's were you have to pay 160 quid more and get the amps, a full color display, and an expression pedal.
It has IR, so put your favorite drive pedals or amp-in-a-box's and load up a good impulse and you've got a perfect DI rig.
its like new version of m9
“Front of house routing”. Could you use this without an amp then?
But that power cable 😓
As long as its a common standard 120v/ac amp cable, im fine with that. I can't keep track of all the digital pedals that need non standard 9v DC, and if you use the wrong one with reverse polarity or not enough milliamps etc. you risk frying a circuit/resistor etc.
Line6 still can't figure out how to get rid of that "limiter on all the time" sound/feel to their stuff, even when bypassed!
Davi Aquino hi Davi, can you elaborate on what you mean by limiter sound/feel? I've got a Helix.. I think I know what you mean.. But not sure. Thanks
Totally made up. 😂
Remember when the POD first came out and people lost it because modeling sounded so "good"? In a couple of years we might all laugh at how bad these FX sound by future standards.
PS: Future humans, if you're reading this, we apparently haven't melted earth yet... So, do we live on frickin Mars already!? How do guitars sound in that thin atmosphere?
I speak to you from the future.
Trump got in for a second term and now holidays in North Korea.
Guitar is studied in history of music we have new instruments now
Now we play the guitar with our minds
I’m from the future. The electric guitar, rock and all real instruments are legally prohibited. only laptops to make techo music. play any guitar, amp, and pedal while you can.
I don’t think that the quality of the sounds has a lot of progress it can make. Things sound about as real/good as they can at this point, I think the improvements will come in how we interface with the effects and the processing speed. Even with amp modeling, between Kemper, Atomic, Helix and the rest, amplifier modeling is already pretty spot on. So much so that when it’s done right, anyone not lying to your face can’t tell the difference between analog/modeled. The only improvement with modeling would be the “amp in the room” sound.
so.....its like M9 and all that but updated in a way?
It also includes all the Legacy FX from the M series.
it's line 6 helix effects and routing etc.. and m5/9/13 effects and more all in one
That’s what I’m seeing too. The only thing I would take would be the scribble strips. Other than that i don’t think you’d be able to tell a difference between this and an M9. I don’t know about the drive sounds though. I never liked them on the M9 but maybe they are better on this thing.
Well there's more difference then just m9 sounds. Remember there's helix sounds in this too which is much better sounding the the m-series. So not only are you getting all the m-series effects, but also the upgraded new helix effects too.
Brock Davisson is have to check I️t out for the new effects that the M9 doesn’t have. Other than that I can’t see any upgrades on the M9 sounds alone to be worth it. No one will tell the difference at a gig anyway.
Fractals FX pedal just got demolished
No it didn't. The FX8 effects piss all over the Helix effects.
Ari Raphiel Totally disagree this unit doesn't even come close.
So far doesn't sound better than a fractal to me . I wish it did so I could save some mullah.
Is me or the effects sound tinny..thin...I was going to get one but having second thoughts..
did you try one yet?
Andy one of these days imma teach you how to play with a pick
sounds a bit harsh and digital, but great playing (as always).
All in the settings. Helix is something you have to spend time to dial in correctly!
replacing the m series i guess.
Multi effects don't have to sound bad. The Boss ME series is pretty great because it behaves like stompboxes. Line 6 is just really hit and miss with a lot of their products.
89
Only liked the tremolo. I hate all that delayed crap.
Too much clean channels as all brands sound good at that.. even when I bought the first one ever made digi 2000 20 yrs ago
This actually turned out to be a downgrade from my Boss me80. The fuzzes are absolutely hideous !
Some are, others are better. Also better since the updates.
That fuzz sounded terrible.
That's ... the point. He used it on a clean tone though, if you stick that through a Marshall it will sound MASSIVE.
What do you expect from an effect derived from someone slicing their amp speaker with a razor blade lol
Yeah, put a fuzz into a clean amp. That's what it sounds like lol.
Tim Volk I’ve had the HX for 8 months. There are many fuzzes I’ve stayed away from. The Muff Pi Fuzz sounds amazing for my needs. I’m in a 90s alt rock cover band and there are a LOT of great sounding tones in this. Germ fuzzes are not necessarily my thing either, even analog. Closest thing I liked was a fuzz face and I haven’t found anything that was really that close in this.
the fuzz at approx 7;59 sounds total crap. the effects are thin, and nothing like the real thing. disappointed, still a long way to go before the digital tones sound and feel like the real thing.
It's pitch-shifting
I honestly really wana like it. But it doesn't sound good. Bummer.
Cool, but it's line 6...
Interesting the even Andy can't really make this sound good ... I have Pods from XT bean to HD Pro Rack - but with so many great new pedals avaialble now it's not really possible for one company to nail everything. I hear improvements in the modeling, but not the wow factor i'm hearing in many or Andy's other demos of seperate pedals.
Only Andy could make one of these stupid multi-effects units sound cool.
Sorry but the only stupid thing is you calling it stupid. If you haven't tried it, then you wouldn't know. It's 2018, welcome to the world now or get left behind. The way technology is today, 90% of people couldn't tell you if they used a real effect/amp/cab on a record or "stupid multi-effect" ;)
It's not like I'm opposed to digital, I'm opposed to being stuck in the effects provided in one single device as opposed to having multiple different pedals you can swap out to configure the right sound for yourself. If you don't like the reverb sounds on the device, tough shit, that's what you have on it. I'd rather pull that off my board and get a different reverb.
That's why theirs multiples of different effects. Something in there will surely work if you give it a chance and hey there's also built in send/return on the back where you can slip in your favorite pedal along with it and place it anywhere in the chain too ;)
But what if you have a Fuzz pedal and a Reverb you want to add externally. If there's only one send and return, you can only insert that loop somewhere in the chain and what if you want delay of the unit before the reverb but after the fuzz? Then you want OD before the fuzz. It's just the type of situation having different pedals with a looper solves.
This multi-effect has 2 send/returns... you can route your non time based stuff into one and your time based ones into another ;) now line 6 full helix and rack has 4 send/returns for even more options and yes they can be moved around anywhere in the chain. So if i have a overdrive I want in the send/return to be after the overdrive in hx effects or helix, then I have the option of moving it after/before or whatever, same with time based stuff etc..