Carburetor to Holley Terminator EFI Conversion | 396 big-block Chevelle
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- The folks at Holley Performance Products were kind enough to send us a Terminator EFI, which we recently installed in Hagerty Parts Finder Davin Reckow's classic Chevelle. We test the impact on performance via the "butt dyno," the 1/8th-mile drag strip, the chassis dyno and gas mileage. Subscribe! | bit.ly/1sddOmD
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By far the best terminator review video on youtube to date. I love my system
Chevy made some beautiful cars back in the day and certainly this '66 Chevelle is a representative of good design. This '66 is one of my favorite for it's style and looks alone and like the Chevelles from that era, definitely a hit for that big block 396. That EFI is amazing too!
Love Michigan in warm weather, love 66 Chevelles,and want EFI sooo bad. Holley is at the top of the list when I decide to pull the trigger. Thanks for the inspiration, and the smoke and noise.
bill smith
PR firm posted this.
As usual some of you are missing the point of this. It wasn't to make more power, that was just a bonus. It starts better, has better driving manners, and gets better economy. If that's not what your looking for don't buy it, hell it's your money. I liked the video even though I don't plan on ever owning a carb'd vehicle again.
one word "driveability"
Greg Sikonia fuel injection is fine until it fucks up... then it's junk junk junk ....
I SpankEFI vehicles all the time with carbs including this small block SS clone ....
Whatever power your making with a carb, you could be making more power with EFI, his power level has nothing to do with EFI and everything to do with his intake, heads, cam and compression. It made 500ft-lb of torque at the wheels though, and that's excellent for what it has.
v8hotrodlincoln 500ft pounds to the wheels? You're joking right?
STOP PLAYING MUSIC OVER THE ENGINE ROAR.
make your own videos and you can do that all day long
Lawrence exactly !!!!!!!! I agree cut the music over engine
Its like a band called engine roar.
Yeah, I don't get why so often videos like this have music playing when they're running the car...the whole point is to hear and see the car perform!
@@relco9825 Do what?
I installed this system into my 72 Mustang Conv, 351 4V car. All I can say is a Love it!! I also went with the phantom 340 in tank fuel pump, super easy to install and so far reliable. This was my first experience making breaded fuel lines, I think my fingers finally stopped bleeding :)
did you bread the fish and chips when you finished with fuel lines
I have the 72 Mach 1 also. Do regret making the change at all or totally worth it? Thanks
I was sick of pulling fuel bowls off constantly to make adjustments to fine tune the balance of street driving to WOT and having to make compromises to achieve the performance and streetability I was looking for. That was what pushed me into making this conversion. Running these systems also allows you to upgrade to a single plane manifold, in fact they even recommend having a common plenum for a more accurate vacuum signal to the MAP sensor. The wiring is easy, I used only a couple wires for the optional items while the rest is self contained so definitely do not be intimidated by that. The part of the install that took the longest was just the figuring out the routing of the harness to best hide it and cleanly integrating it into the factory harness. I chose a completely different route for fueling than an in-tank pump since I do have a return line but my tank has no baffling and could still suck air in certain situations with a less-than-full fuel level. Still have yet to drive it but I have started it and my goodness it was easy and the smell of vaporized fuel was no longer filling the garage after running it. I can’t wait to get it out on the road.
Cory Holbrook only thing make sure you angle. o2 sensor up cause if not you will burn thru them trust me there a joke on o2 sensor
@@myronkelly4496 that is with any O2 sensor. Moisture collects and fouls them out. Doesn't matter what O2 sensor, or brand of kit you go with, if you have it parallel to the ground or lower, that's an installation error, not a manufacturer error.
Hey guys, great to see you doing another series. I've been a qualified mechanic in Australia for 15 - 16 years now and am a qualified LPG installer/ LPG RWC Inspector (LPG cars in Aust require a separate RWC for their LPG system itself) and RWC (Road Worthy Certificate) Inspector amongst other things and thought I'd chime in on the fuel tank issue. Firstly, I would NEVER recommend anyone doing their own welding on their car's fuel tank at home in their garages- BUT FYI- it's all about purging the tank clean of flammable gasses obviously. One method old timers used to use was to completely fill the tank with water to push all the air out and then go about cleaning and drying the tank prior to commencing welding but these days we use an inert gas to purge the tank clean thoroughly, then clean for welding. THIS IS NOT A JOB FOR THE HOME MECHANIC, NO MATTER HOW EXPERIENCED. THIS IS A WORKSHOP ONLY REPAIR, IN MOST PLACES MANDATED BY LAW.
Awesome video really looking forward to using fuel injection on my project. And 14 mpg with a big block major kudos
Thanks. Nice car, just love it.
As someone who daily drives an 84 pickup that's carbureted I was seriously thinking about buying the Holly EFI kit, even had it in my shopping cart on Summit ready to buy, until I dug a little deeper. The pros are obviously mentioned everywhere: Tunes while you drive for maximum fuel economy and efficiency, better cold start up, no more having to deal with my manual choke, etc etc. But what they don't tell you is the cons. This is not an easy job that you can throw together. One thing they don't mention is you need to have a single plane intake manifold, or you need to cut and notch out your duel plane intake manifold, otherwise the Holly EFI will never run right. Duel planes are way more common, so you'd have to pull your intake manifold off and cut out and notch it and then put it back together. You can even see it in the HolyPerformance install video (even though they don't mention it). If you're half way into this project and didn't know that you'd be pretty pissed. And then there's the kicker, a properly tuned carb will run better and make MORE power than a Holly EFI kit. Holly even admits to this. So unless you're still in the build process or you have another vehicle to drive while you try to install this kit I would not recommend it. Go with a $150 wideband gauge and tune your existing carb. Hell I even added a $25 dollar flow through electric pump so when I let my truck sit for awhile I can prime the carb and it fires right up no problem
I had a 1986 k-5 blazer with the stock 350. It had a bad accelerator pump and a dead cylinder but no matter how long it sat you could bump the key and it fired right up. You’d have to feather the gas when you moved from a stop to get it to not stall but the thing would just fire right up and it would never leave me stranded. I miss that thing.
Just a basic screwdriver. (Uses welder, drill press, metal cutting press etc)
bigcheese82 lmao even had to send the tank out to have a return line bung welded in....
Exactly a lot more involved, and not everyone has a lift or a welder.
He did mention he would be using other tools to his disposal. There's really no excuse to not learn to weld these days and obtain the hardware. Shits cheap, maybe 25 years ago you'd have a point to argue.
That was funny. Granted not required per-say but a lot more than a screw driver.
@@CanadaBud23 , he mention a seeking a pro ,,, ?
Great video and very good explanation of the conversion and result comparison.
Great Mr.K shirt!
Love the install portion.
Looks just like my 66 Buick Special I had back in the day. Miss that car so much.
In 1974, I had a red 66 just like this SS , but mine started life as a automatic w/ bench seat.
I think this was the perfect before and after test because most guys don't have a perfectly tuned carburetor. So a carburetor can do better but I think this was very representative of what you're going to find for the average street car with a carburetor . Excellent job 👍 Thank you
Great video start to finish! Thank you
Love the way this car sounds balanced and blueprinted
you can clock your reaction time with a sun dial .
HAHA!
What does the reaction time matter on a comparison test with nobody in the other lane?
Has nothing to do with ET. Thats all they were looking for.
What did it run in the Quarter mile with the carb and then with the EFI? I'm old school the hell with the eighth I'm a Quarter mile guy!!!!
shhhh they can't stay out of the sandbox...
Agree
@@fitnessguru8012 ,I'm with you Man. This 1/8 mile stuff ruined drag racing for me. I did a lot of drag racing in the 60's & 70's. The fast cars are finished so quickly it's boring!
@@kensnyder2340 I can outrun a slow car on foot in the first 5 to 10 yards, but not for 25 yards, and that makes a difference.
@@kensnyder2340 really. 1/8 mile? Race the damn pit bikes!
I've been toying with the idea of getting a 66 Chevelle/Malibu, and always wondered what the benefits of EFI over the carb would be, and to find a video with the exact car I want was great, thank you for making this, production and presentation was excellent, great job!
Life On Unleaded
There's pretty much no benefit carb of a decent efi system
Throttle body fuel injection isn't that great tho
Thanks for the great content! This is awesome and something I want to do with my 1966 Dodge A100 with 360 V8!
Great job guys! My first car was a '66 Malibu so I still have to check out '66 Chevelle vids when I see 'em to remind me how much of a dumb ass kid I was for selling it.
I would say that ET and 1/8th mile speed would dramatically decrease and increase with the proper tires for grip. Those radials were fine for the pre EFI run but you definitely need more grip post EFI install. I may just have to put this system on my 72 Grand Prix. Thanks guys!
Something i always miss in these kinda videos regarding the Holley EFI's is.. setting timing, initial setup and so on.. is there anything to consider.. or what? =)
Only reason I'm commenting is, Thats exactly my car! I bought new in 1966, SS396 Chevelle, 375/425hp. Maroon w white buckets only red line tires. Solids, aluminum hi rise, huge Holley, Big Block! 1st Gen Muscle Car.This car is beautiful, thanks for keeping it clean. I loved mine still do💜
I had one almost identical to this one in high school. It had the 396/375 with Muncie M22 4 speed trans... and a bench seat! I still regret selling it. Mine was white with a sea green interior. I had a really hard time keeping the bolts in the ladder bars. It used to snap them.
what was the size of the carburetor you took off and what was the size (cfm) of the efi unit? Were they the same?
Chevelle's are like the Impala's little brother. I love full size muscle😆
Chevelles are intermediate
@@Moparmaga-1 pretty sure that's actually what he's saying, lol.
@@MikeW1981 sure except if you read what he said he said full size muscle which intermediates are not . that was all I was pointing out.
I'd be interested to see this kit compared to a carb tuned properly with wideband air/fuel sensors.
Agreed. They should've at least tuned the hell out of the carb. After all, the TBI has a computer tuning it's optimum performance.
you can tune a carb all you want but in the end you can only put 1 static tune on a carbed motor whereas EFi learns and tunes the engine all the time while driving. Think about low vs. high ambient temps or low altitude vs. high altitude, clean vs. dirty airfilter. These variations will all be tuned out by the EFi.
EFi also does it's own cold start enrichment, no choke needed.
EFi is also able to cut off fuel when engine braking. It also controls idle speed dynamicaly (compensating for AC, alternator load, powwersteeringpump load.)
once you go EFi you won''t look back.
if you watch the building of a car on a 30 minute video,do you think it took 30 minutes to build the car?
sometimes you have to put your grownup hat on and make assumptions about things.
when one of these guys brings his car to the dyno,THEY TUNE THE FUCKING THING,
JET THE CARB,SET THE TIMING,THEN DO THE DYNO RUN .....you mindless moron.
Well considering pro stock is using it, I believe efi shits on a carb
@@mr.know_it_all totally different efi set up
Why did you change the ign' timing, thought you were gonna come pair them straight up!?
With my car, it's a sunny Sunday driver and all original. I like the carb life's little weirdness it has. However, a buddy put one on his T bucket 350 and he loves it. Especially being it sits most of the year and with a simple twist of the key it fires up right away, compared to cleaning the bowls out, dumping the tank for off season and putting it all together when on season comes. If I get a wrenching car, I'd do it
Good Info here......thanks
Holley terminator EFI brings you the latest technology that 1987 has to offer!
+Slappy Fistwad LOL
XD Show me an 80's car that can self-learn without throwing codes?
Mutt Head unplug the check engine light and if she runs, SEND IT lol
What should he have used to replace a carb ???
@@63grandsport11 a carb tuned by someone else
Question: How much vacuum at idle did/do you have? I have been told too little vacuum is an issue for this swap.
Love this chevelle!! Thinking about doing this to the cars on our channel, weve got a 72 Mustang and 89 Camaro, should we?
You guys just made my decision easy. Love the kit. Only one question?why did you not use your old msd box???
I guess I somehow missed this one . I didn't know Davin was a 66 SS Chevelle owner . My favorite car . I drive a 66 SS L78 myself . Very cool swap , incredible what modern technology can do for an old school engine .
This is NOT a 66 SS Chevelle
It is a 66 Chevelle Malibu !
I have both a 66 SS and a 66 Malibu
I can tell the difference just by looking at them
The V.I.N. code for a SS is 138
The V.I.N. code for a Malibu is 136
I'm putting this on my 67 Caprice 396. I freaking can't wait to drive it.
Yep I had a 396 way back in the day it was a beast
I would like to see a before and after Dyno run at a consistent partial throttle
I just installed a Sniper EFI on to my 1965 Plymouth Satellite. Gas tank was new so no problem adding a inlet for return line. Far from original, or stock, It is 40 over 383 with a 4 speed and 430 posi,,, no miles. I thought I would convert now instead of use my dual quads. A few minor adjustments and it fired immediately. Idled where I set it, E3 plugs also, so now I need to break in the motor
I spent many years floggin Holley carbs. U gotta ritchen them up @ the strip to make power 6 to 8 steps. Then back to lean on the street for MPG. Good luck men.
Good results, man i hope you get a good discount at the tire shop with the way it leaves rubber behind, haha lol.
years ago I bought a Holly DI4 system,it produced great power,but wouldn't keep in tune over the long run.after many calls to Holley,parts change etc &along trip with calls & parts changes I pulled the junk off.and let it set for years,lately I contacted a person in LA who thought he could fix it with a new computer etc,he said the original system wasn't very good,but felt he could upgrade it,hope so or I will dump it in the junk pile,along with some HOLLEY QUALITY JUNK
Nice video thank you!
Could you do this swap from two Holleys on top of a 671 blower to two of those injection units?
nice car Davin! I would like to see more work done to it in the future.
+davidbrennan5 Thank you. This is my high school sweetheart. I did a full restoration on it in the 90s. My next upgrade will be a 5speed.
Reckow Racing are you still running this system on your engine? Updates?
iv never had any real issues getting a carb dialed in, a wideband 02 gauge goes a long ways in making the most power with the best drive ability. i understand carbs a lot better than i do computer programs, the holley efi is a great system though.
Most people have NO IDEA that you can and in my opinion, should tune your carb with a wideband.
Wideband is the missing piece of carburetors if you ask me.
Kills me how many guys try to tune there carb off of smelling the exhaust pipes for a rich or lean mixture.
Maybe a trained blood hound could do that but no human is gonna know AFR from smelling the exhaust.
Carbs are a good way to make your engine run. Very primitive, but effective. However, EFI has so many benefits over a carb and unless you play with one, you will not even begin to understand. Besides, big oil companies are forcing you to convert with the fuel they supply...
Every rig I’ve ever seen with the Holley efi system always has issues. A well tuned carb is way better IMO
I have seen a few with issues but most of them come down to improper install, usually wiring. Old school car guys think they can get away with janky wiring, which doesnt work with EFI. A well tuned carb is great but constant tuning for todays gas and conditions can be a hassle.
The only EFI kit id consider now a days is the FiTech GoEfi. Starts at $795.00 and you dont have to modify anything. ECU is self contained in the throttle body with the injectors. Comparing Fitech with Holley makes the Terminator look like an antique.
Nice video guys I have a question for u guys.
I have Chevy 454 big block I wanna convert my carburetor to EFI like you guys just did. Do you have idea if I can find those partes or if I can do that to to my Chevy 454 big block thanks for your answer.
Nice Chevelle.
Love this video thanks for sharing guys
GREAT VIDEO...
Great article. As far as I last read (which is admittedly a number of years back) even the best EFI retrofit systems still made a few less HP than a properly tuned carbureted engine. I'm merely curious from a dollar for dollar standpoint how close the Chevelle could have come in terms of power and perhaps even mileage with more intensive tuning of the ignition and fuel systems to begin with.
That being said, besides the other advantages listed on the video I can really see a great improvement on plug life, especially at idle, and ease of starting every so often in Winter months.
Nicely done.
***** With a properly set up Carb the times would have been nearly identical. CFM is CFM
+Tory S The EFI will make more power, in most cases it wont be dramatically more though. The throttle body doesn't have the restriction and turbulence that carb jets induce at least with the current kits. Granted we are talking about a throttle body system, the it's not a huge leap really. Even if they were rated at the same CFM the throttle body would still hold an advantage because of the turbulence. MT just posted a more detailed dyno comparison using a LS motor and they had the carb jetted and couldn't match the EFI.
Wrong
Dan Henderson
Very good.
Great video. Does it need to relearn ever time the main power is disconnected from the battery, or does it retain the last tool it had? I unplug my battery when it sit for winter. Thank you
Just found this video while searching for similar videos about fuel injection systems. Was wondering if you are still using this system and what your mileage is like on road trips?
Loved the video, but it'd be nice to see all steps of installation.
Love the way it's up off the ground.
I'd be curious to see the MPG with a 4l80 trans. At least 20mpg I bet.
What were your reasons that factored into your decision to go with a terminator series platform , as opposed to the sniper series. 1/8 mile burnout- gotta love it!
I learned to drive in a `66 Chevelle, but no power steering and a 6 banger. Nice car Davin. Now you need bigger meats on the back. Love the butt dyno test. Can you make a video on how to change a 10 bolt Chevy diff from a one legger to 2 legger? My 91 Silverado is a one legger. I want posi.
just a word of advice. The car stalled because of the vent tubes on top of holley carb. when you stop suddenly fuel from the bowl will shoot out and into the carb causing stall. run a rubber hose from the two tubes and this will stop it.
Love 66 Chevells!
Had same issue would do it during hard cornering or braking. Have efi now prolblem gone
It's hilarious how many people are arguing about the stuff in the video and missed the fact that they're just watching what's probably a product placement infomercial. It's just intended to get you to buy the EFI setup. They don't care whether you argue in the comments - it just increases exposure of the video in the youtube system.
Notice these shows don't have a end-to-end on any car where they just tell you exactly how stuff works and how to keep your car in spec without buying a bunch of junk. They're here only to sell you stuff, not to teach you anything.
My brother put one of these on his 1969 Mach 1, 428 4 speed, he loves it. I may try one on my 1972 Pontiac 455 H.O., I'm restoring a 1990 ZR-1 and I put new injectors in it, it takes 16 of them in the LT5.
The best invention in the whole world is the EFI and the modern car era!
Love those chevelles!
I have a 1997 Chevy k1500. And I am wanting to know if I change the Intake can I put a Holley ez efi on it? And work?
Wow! That's awesome.
Man I'd like to have this on a 69 charger aka General Lee
THAT WAS A GOOD 9
Was enjoying it and then they said "northern Michigan dragway" Brian ledford owns it im racing there tommorrow!!!! holy hell!
That's a damm good looking Chevelle
The heading says Terminator, I was looking for a 03 Cobra!!!
Why did you have to take off the MSD box? I just put one on my car and was wondering if the EFI computer replaced it.... Thanks
He could add ladder bars for added traction also , at least back in my day
+Sam Nugent I had a set of ladder bars awhile back. the car would buck like a mule with them so I pulled them off and have a set of umi lowering brackets on the lower rear control arms.
Good comparison & anytime you can get a big block chevrolet to crowd 15 mpg - that's a real good thing
@7:55 install begins
Doesn't play music, starts car, music starts... Why do you All do that? I'd rather head the car than you talking, I'd rather hear the engine and read subtitles than listen to you or your music.
Ha, ha... that is so funny. I was thinking the same. Saw another vid the other day- a hot rod Nova. You could barely hear the engine. Wahhas tha point, bro. Everybody's a video editor, now.
hey Rob, how about you make videos where its just engine noise and subtitles. Then you can watch your own videos that you actually put any work into, instead of bitching at someone else for their creative differences. Y O U W I L L F I N D A R E A S O N T O B I T C H A B O U T A N Y T H I N G
@@pedrogonzales9202 except you apparently
66 Chevelles look so awesome in black.
Do you still have this on your engine? Any updates
In early 80s i built a 327 for my 68 rs Camaro. Spec'd it out to a 365hp 64 vette motor. I wished i could of installed this back then being young n dumb i know i didn't get all out of it i could. Oh well! Lol. Nice work and beautiful car!
Either that carb was way out of wack or they advanced the ignition timing with the fuel injection
Good stuff. Thats the info people need.!
Was looking to efi my sbc sprite
I have very little room in the engine compartment and under dash
Will this unit need much space?
On a Hagerty video I saw that the full tach sweep will confuse the efi unit to flood the engine. How do you stop that? I have a 66 Gto with an aftermarket in the dash tach which does do a 8000 rpm sweep.
Hey, it's Roy Orbison, on the right @ 12:49.
Why did you have 2 change the Fist and the MSD box
gorgeous car
Judging by the rear quarter, they just repaved that track... LOL
I have to wonder what the support will be like for the EFI in a few years. Will they still have parts for it ? At least with the carb when it goes to hell you just bolt another one on.
I love Chevelles especially the convertible and a big block 4-speed
I did a conversion myself last year for my 64 Comet, though with a different system, but with similar results. Amazing drivability, with much smoother torque and more of it in the lower RPMs, smoother idle (have a fairly large cam), and surprising gas mileage increase. My biggest issue is controlling fuel slosh when tank is below 1/4. Carburetors have a built in reservoir (fuel bowls), so aren't affected by lateral or forward G's as much, but the high fuel demands can cause a lean condition due to fuel moving away from the pickup. Did you find similar issues? And if so, how did you address it?
J Bird I have seen aftermarket fuel tanks designed for retrofits of this nature and quite obviously they would have built in baffles. What about having a fuel tank custom made with all the anti slosh you could ever want? Great Winter project.
I actually, just this morning, added a large basket filter between my tank and external pump. I'm hoping this will give me some reserve, if the fuel does slosh away from the pickup under acceleration or corning when fuel levels are lower. If not, I'll probably go ahead and modify a new tank. No one seems to make a drop in tank for my specific car. This will be especially important when my blower goes in next week!
@@jbird4471 hydramat is cure for sure
Awesome- I just bought a 66 chevelle with a 396 and this was something I was curious about. What did the system cost, and did you lose any of that old school muscle rumble or did the sound retain?
I want the same car, got the fever yesterday at a car show in Cumberland, RI in a grocery store parking lot. If that doesn't take the cake, how demeaning older guys with their very nice 396 Chevelles' at a food store lot, LOL! I have a garage for a future car I can not afford right now. Thing is I'm no mechanic by any stretch, don't know if I'm even capable of handling such an endeavor. I would need a PRO to install that electronic fuel injection system either way. But I can dream can't I? There are plenty of these cars out and about for sale I am finding. I get the sense owning one would become a nonstop hobby or fix it job. Any thoughts?
+dontswin it all depends on what is already done to the car, mine is bone stock except for the motor (it was originally a 327), so I'm going to be spending thousands of dollars and several hours installing disc brakes, modern suspension components, bucket seats and the efi system. I do have a father and a family friend that are very savvy with old Chevys so it won't be as much of a chore for me- but you can easily find one that doesn't need as much to be "modern", or just drive it stock! They're reliable enough, but some mechanical know how will have to be learned at some point in case something happens
+dontswin it's a blast though, I absolutely love it. My friend just finished restoring his 68 charger, a 10 year project! We're both 27 and can cruise the streets in style- you don't see many guys our age with these cars :)
Your right about your age group not having these sweet cars. As a matter of fact, young people are actually holding off buying cars these days. I also suppose it's a regional socio-economic thing too. The auto makers are having conniption fits about the lack of interest by the young people towards new autos. That's what the numbers tell. Myself, if you add 20 to your age that's me, lol. So when I was almost 8 these were BRAND NEW! I suppose I never stopped loving this particular car since my cousin had one way back then. He'd take me out a lot in it. It was all black, all stock(w/ a few mods) I'll never forget the sound. Sounded like a jet engine! I figure if I don't get one soon, I'll probably die without ever having fulfilled this one dream. So I really don't know. I do have a garage to keep it dry in for starters. But I am far from being a mechanic.
I bought a 396/360 in 1966. The 396/375 came out in late 1966. The guys that bought the 360 were out in the cold. If you have a 325hp you do not have the four bolt mains. If you have a 396/360 you have the high performance engine. IF you have the 396/375 you can tell it buy the intake manifold. It will look SILVER because it is ALUMINUM. NOW get a set of AIR BAGS for the REAR. The stock carboarator for a 396/360 does not put enought gas in the engine. YOU NEED a 780cc. If you have a 396/325 hp, that is not a high performance block. The 360 says hp on the BLOCK in the back. To make that car run you need a 4.10 rear. The rear will make the car go fast but it will cost you a lot in gas. My 396/360 came with a 331 rear. My best friend bought a 396/375 chevelle with a 4.10 rear and could not afford the gas. WE swapped rears and this made my car fast. There is a 396/375hp chevelle out they some where with my old rear in it.
I see you had to ditch your MSD, which wasn't cheap, so did ignition performance go up or down? Does the Holley system allow for use of a 2 or 3 step module, or even have a rev limiter of any kind?
1/8th mile...wah...I thought it was 1/4...but impressive...200 ft both tires...your suspension is spot on!!!
The car weighs 7,000lbs
I was 14 in 66. My sister and her husband bought a new SS 396 in red with a white vinyl interior.
I just bought a 66 Malibu the numbers say it's an SS but I think it came with a 6 cylinder is that possible