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- With Title Update 4 introducing Velkhana and Risen Valstrax, and the MHR Sunbreak expansion arriving soon to Playstation and Xbox consoles, I figured this would be a good time to finish this guide that I've started working on right after Sunbreak released on PC and Switch. In this guide we'll go over everything that the Great Sword got in Sunbreak in great detail as you've come to expect from me. The video is spoiler free (no final boss and post-game content shown) and is aimed at all skill levels. Hope you'll enjoy and learn something new!
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Our older Monster Hunter Rise GS guides:
Beginner's guide: • Great Sword Guide for ...
Advanced guide: • Advanced Great Sword G...
(Bonus) Switch Skill guide: • In-Depth Great Sword S...
Timestamps:
1. Buffs and moveset changes
0:00 Intro
0:35 Buffs and moveset changes
2. New Switch Skills
1:40 Scroll Swap
2:26 Backslide
4:52 Surge Slash Combo
7:49 Strongarm Stance
12:24 Best Switch Skill loadout
3. Playstyle and loadout changes
13:24 How to GS in Sunbreak
15:35 Armor skills
16:50 Buddies
#mhrise #sunbreak #greatsword
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All switch skills are balanced. Some, however, are more balanced than others.
I love that type of humor so much, thank you for a good laugh
as a cb main I absolutely agree
@@professorpenne9962oh god, CPP would like to have a word
They'd have called them pc skills if they were unbalanced
so much so that one weapon in particular (we all know which it is... REST IN PEACE LONG SWORD) was balanced a lil to much
Wow this video is an absolute masterpiece. With Sunbreak just arriving to consoles, this guide was everything I was looking for and then so much more. Thank you so much on being so thorough and descriptive on every aspect of the new moves that weren’t in base Rise.
Props to you, insane guide
Amazing guide, I'm gonna recommend this to any of my friends who wish to try GS!
Ngl I have some mixed feelings about Sunbreak's counter focused meta but I can't deny how good it feels to land a PowersheatheStrongarmOffensiveguard TCS. Literal Neuron Activation, BIG WEAPON=BIG DAMAGE!!!
this feels like being in class at MH academy. the amount of deep dive analysis is unreal. I need to review today's course for few weeks to hopefully absorb all the good stuff and put them to use.
Hey man, glad to see you back after all this time. Love your content and in depth guides
Thank you! Great to be back!
How are you now the most viewed MH channel? This video is absolutely perfect! Light and easy to follow even as semi-casual player but still in-depth. Extra memes for the meme enjoyers too. 10/10 mate, great job!
The thing abt surge slash combo is the if you dont like gs bc its slow you can now play it👍
Great guide, sometimes it feels hard to find content that actually discusses all the different options we have with our movesets like this. Like for Surge Slash specifically, I had no idea you could go into a Rising Slash II after the Strong Charge slash. I've been enjoying playing around with all of GS's new tools, so I'm glad you didn't just gloss over switch skills like Backslide (which I think is underrated: it's fun once you get used to it and the bug recharge is really fast)
Two little addendums I'd warn for anyone else picking up GS:
--I don't think you mentioned, but I think it's important to point out that for Strongarm, while charging, you can execute the initial guard/parry in any direction regardless of where your hunter is facing. Useful since every quarter-of-a-second seems to really matter fishing for those counters, and the moment you see an attack coming out you can counter, you don't necessarily have to have your hunter facing toward the attack: just start charging and hit the left trigger while tilting where you wanna guard. Plus you can angle the guard in a way to kindof fine-tune your aim where the TCS will go towards as well.
--For Surge Slash specifically, I'd also warn that Falling Slash II in particular can be dangerous to use since you can't roll out of it or silkbind later than most would think (basically until the hunter has both hands back on the weapon's hilt). The only actions that don't have to wait that long is the third step in the Surge combo like you've shown with Falling Slash III (works with the other two attacks as well, but not with any special variations like Falling), so of course only use Falling Slash II if you plan to commit to all 3 hits.
Great guide mate! Went back to MHR after a hiatus and felt kinda lost even playing with GS (my main since MH3U). This helped me a lot!!
Surge slash is underrated. Elemental gs is actually a thing in sunbreak, especially if you run into timing problems with some especially egregious endgame loop monsters.
Honestly it's not uncommen for vortex III or rising III to hit for anywhere between 800-1200 for me. Yeah, you lose tackle, but strongarm followed by Vortex III hyper armor is really all you need in 90% of cases.
Yes, a perfectly played strongarm tcs will deal more damage than surge slash, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't just ignore surge slash.
I do run a damage meter in sunbreak (for determining my own performance, I'm not judging or putting other people down with it) and I regularly stay on par or beat strongarm tcs spam with elemental surge slash. Its a preference, really, and you won't be "useless" with surge slash (granted its hard to be useless in monster hunter to begin with. Every little bit helps)
It looks like a more combo centric playstyle. As someone who fell in love with combo greatsword in Monster Hunter World ICE (Iceborne community patch), it looks like my kind of greatsword
I hope surge comes back in Rise. I've been in love with alternate playstyles sine GU, and Rise scratched an itch I've had for a long while
Oh yeah surge slash is definitely good, especially considering how crazy the element stats on Sun break great swords are. I noticed in the video that he was just spamming the light attack combo against the crab, which I found weird, because he could've just gone into tcs. Adamant charged slash also helps keep some of that beeg number damage too.
I've always played blademaster weapons on mh(10+ years) but I've decided to switch things up in rise and started using the light bowgun.
It was fun, it's really strong, but i felt like i wasn't really learning the moveset of the monsters. So I've taken an 180° turn and went here to see what's new with the GS, great video btw.
Wonderful guide! The amount of depth and detail you put into this is admirable.
Like the last Rise GS guide, this is very good!!! Need to get good with this weapon for real this time.
I remember when I first saw Surge Slash and thought 'damn, this looks so cool, I hope it's not significantly worse than TCS playstyle'.
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Great guide once again though! Love the editing and all the work you put into this shows. GS GOAT fr :D
If it looks cool to you then go for it bruh, just because it does less damage doesn't mean you shouldn't use it. Use whatever you want to use, it isn't all about following the meta, getting big damage numbers or speedrunning the monster, its about having fun with the game, so play with whatever looks good to you. If someone says otherwise then they're objectively wrong.
@White SheepX for real, the reason i play GS at all in this game is surge slash lmao.
@@lesshumanmoredead
There still should be balance you know.
Strongarm stance has very little downside to it for what it does, he is right to feel the way he does about Surge slash in comparison.
That's not to say you are wrong though, cuz yeah, use what is fun, but it's very hard to do so when you see that the alternative fun is just a much, much better option.
Balance.
Strongarm nerfs (not buffs cuz monsters already die fast enough... The Monsters need the buffing)
@@romdog1818 "monsters already die fast enough"? Man are we playing the same game? Yeah they can die fast if you're playing with 3 or 4 people or if you're cracked at the game or if you're a speedrunner. But if you're an average or above average player then it takes at least 15 to 20 or sometimes almost 30 mins to take out the higher tier of master rank monsters. Like bro stop complaining that the monsters need buffing, we've already got risen monsters molesting our goofy ahhs and then they added special anomaly investigations? what will they have to add so people like you can stop complaining about the monsters dying fast? Even fatalis and safijiiva took less time to kill than some of these anomaly and risen monsters.
This guide is super nice, it covers EVERYTHING. Either you're a beginner or an experience GS user, this guide helps a ton! Thank you very much!
Thanks for the guide Xan!
I'm about to try GS in MHR Sunbreak. 🔥
Hope you'll enjoy it Shiori!
Thank you for this Guide, perfect timing!
I beat sunbreak at launch but never played any of the updates. I just redownloaded it on PS5. I remembered the basics with Greatsword my main weapon but this video was a great refresher. Thanks and here’s to hoping Greatsword is sick in MH6
I started playing Rise a couple days ago. Found this channel and was super bummed out that the owner is inactive. Came back today and what do I see? 2 new videos? Perfect timing :D Also it feels like this video is of better quality than your previous ones. Keep it up! Subbed
One thing though, you said "The video is spoiler free" but now I know Malzeno. Keep it in mind in the future as that statement from the description is false.
Malzeno was shown and named in all the official trailers and promo materials for the expansion. No lies here
@@spizC Malzeno is the flagship monster, he's literally in every promotional image and video for the game.
@@spizC Regardless, I've specified in the description what I exactly mean by no spoilers, just like how it's already specified in the video's intro. Thanks for your feedback!
come on man, Malzeno was literally show on every cover and image of Sunbreak promotional material....
18:19 CHARGED PLUNGING THRUST!!! Your voice over is really well done! And hearing AkantoreX in the video made my day! I wanted to ask if Silkbinder is still good on palamutes, since it got heavily nerfed.
It's still the best after the nerfs
@@XanMH1 I thought that the chains for the palamutes are now the best palamute weapons. When I watched juzzi's speedrun tierlist he was constantly talking about the chain dogs and how much they impact speedruns. Here is the video: th-cam.com/video/DFck6eRymZk/w-d-xo.html
I'm an old gen hunter and you explain it to idiots like me so well, thank you!
2 things i really learned on my own about strongarm that mightve been too obvious for the guide
1. you have 360 degrees of control while activating, when you hold a direction before pressing zr
2. doing a raw strongarm really isnt the end of the world, and can make the weapon feel very fluid. countering 2 hit moves with tackle -> strongarm is really easy when new to the monster or weapon and does good damage still
This was so well done , many thanks.
I'm officially addicted to your content bro, its sooo good
Thank you, it means a lot!
incredible vid man, well done man. your passion and work ethic really shines in this tutorial!
Thank you Lord, it means a lot!
This is very well put together . Im not even a GS user and i find this to be verry helpful
The best one yet! Editing is on point. 🎉🎉
Really great guide! You managed to pack a ton of information in an easy to understand format and without it being overly long.
Man, the title isn't kidding about this being *THE* GS guide. I'd be hard-pressed to find one more comprehensive and concise than this (heck, as someone who knows nothing about SB GS, the deluge of information was almost overwhelming 😅)! The amount of care and attention you put into these guides is always incredible to behold, and adding little touches of comedy like Aki's bit, the "Extremely Balanced" pop-up, and the "Charged Plunging Thrust" line at the end made this such a fun watch the whole way through! Also, props to Paolo again for his ever silky smooth narration!
Oh, and wtf, I've never even *seen* some of those Surge Slash animations before now. The one where the hunter punches the sword is *nuts* and I love it, lol. Kind of crazy how much impressive new animation work Capcom did for a skill that would almost never end up being used.
Thank you so much BJ! Your comments always make my day.
Great videos, love it. It's clear and detail explanation. Just starting GS again. I almost didn't touch GS at Iceborne until AT Velkhana but I use it a lot at MWH.
its been too long man. previous guide was amazing as well. we needed this earlier, now BURNT out on Counterbreak
Damn all I can is what a masterpiece this video is. All the things I want to ask is already been answered in the video. Wowww
Very Great Guide dood!!! I learn valuable new techs here!! Thanks a lot!!
And the best part, very easy to follow, great teacher as well.
Would love to see a hunt or speedrun analysis/breakdown for gs!
Immaculate guide and narration. You guys and gals should pat yourselves in the back for a top tier job.
I've been a gunlance only hunter for years, but I think it's about time to try something new after this vid.
100+ Hours in and I still learn new things from here, great video! 👏
Im really enjoying the responsive gameplay that the surge strikes allow. Feels way less punishing as a new player to Great Sword.
The wait was worth it.
Good lord! This guide was very detailed.
Great job.
I always use great sword in every game because it look cool.Of cource I know berserk and final fantasy.
I keep coming back to greatsword like a toxic relationship
Same here
After almost 1500 hunts of playing exclusively the SA in Rise/Sunbreak I've tried to dip my toe in GS in the Training Area and I just can't "get it". But I think this video might have revealed what I've been missing and so I look forward to giving GS another try.
Great guide. Concise and helpful.
This is the most amazing Monster Hunter guide I've ever seen in my life. It looks like you play a lot of Great Sword. Any similar guides out there for Long Sword?
Incredibly informative and well done.
This video made me subscribe really. Suggestion bro, maybe you could use slowmos when demonstrating switch skill executions so greatsword beginners like me can comprehend it better. Thank you for a very thorough guide. :)
Excellent guide 🙇♂️🙏
This video is so good. thank you !
Thanks man this was very helpful
in the armor skills category i was really surprised there was no shoutout to redirection. level 1 is parry move that can save you from getting hit after tcs, and at lvl 2 it gives back half a wirebug on parry + hella long s, and it can be equipped in a single 4 slot
I've seen some very niche uses of Redirection on 1 or 2 monsters, but it's not something that's universally good on GS.
Run the skill "Redirection" level 2, and you can use the scroll swap to LITERALLY NEGATE ALL DAMAGE AAAND GAIN BACK WIRE BUG METER. It's a very tight window to activate it, but i think it makes Great Sword a TRUE TITAN class weapon. You'd have: regular rolls, Block, shoulder bash, power sheath, strong arm, and Redirection all at your fingertips as options to deal with monster attacks.
Hit so hard you can stagger the monster out of an attack, evade window to roll to safety, block attacks that are too close to avoid, shoulder bash through most attacks, power sheath away from danger, Strong arm to parry an attack and deal a counter, scroll swap to "redirect" negating all damage and regaining wirebug meter. SO MANY CHOICES. GS is GOATED
GS ALL THE WAY!
Then there's the hardest yet absolute win of an endgame armor set which if you can overcome that debuff gives you free wirebug
Bruh Big bonk sword just became the Blade of Knowledge.
Huh.. you actually use damage values and all that. Thanks, subbed.
amazing video!
I don't know if you or anyone else will see this but I recently found out that leaping wide slash (the move that you use when you charge, tackle and use the tackle button/key again) not only does extra hits based on charge level but that it also does increased element/status. Any idea if it syncs with Charge Master?
Great guide, but I can't help but feel a bit sad at seeing the GS reduced to a glorified counter machine. It feels so out of tune with what the weapon was about. I hope they go back to what made it great in the first place in the next game.
100% agree. They definitely went too wild with the counters in Rise.
I just got to high rank for the first time with the great sword 😼
Hey Xan, cheers for the guide! I am currently early MR, Do you reccomend not bringing followers so that you have monster aggro more often for the counters?
Cheers
Followers are pretty broken so if you want to farm quickly then they're worth bringing. You can use that level 1 skill that makes monsters target you more often. If you want to hone your skills and properly practice monsters, I think it's better to not bring followers. It really depends on what you're looking for.
Oooh I didn't know you can delay the hit.
purfect guide
5 minutes in, had to pause to give a fat Like 👍
I’ll probably miss these silkbind skills when mh6 comes out
good build, i've been trying to learn gs today and it's a pain in the ass, i hate the counter playstyle and wirebug limitation and want to ring the neck of the person who made it possible to trigger counters with barrels ... gimmicky ass bs
it’s xan the man
I don't really use the GS, but this was a very interesting video, even if it is kinda hard for me to follow everything without knowing what the GS does.
I have a beginner's guide for newcomers which should explain things
@@XanMH1 Yeah, I think I'm gonna start with that one and then come back to this LOL
Pog my favourite GS main Paolol
Paolo has more hours of GS gameplay than everyone else in the world combined
@@XanMH1 trueee, paolol the goat
13:32 this part made me laugh because that's exactly what my brain thinks
You're kidding me. I played through the entire dlc not knowing I could go from strong charge slash back into surge slash
this guide is what i needed ! i have a few questions though :
- you said that the charged slash combo is better than the surge slash combo; are we talking 20% better of 5/10% better ?
- what's the name of the OST starting at 13:25 ?
- what specific skills would you recommend for a surge slash set ?
The counter TCS playstyle is 70-100+ % better in general. Even more since Frostcraft.
Song is "Nay! The honor is all ours" from MHWI.
For Surge Slash you can use the same skills as TCS GS. Strongarm works with Surge Slash so if you're using that keep Wirebug Whisperer and OG. You can also use elemental attack if you have slots left but raw is more important overall.
@@XanMH1 thank you for your quick answer!! i'll stick to counter TCS playstyle :D
100h in still slowly going through HR and I just now hot informed that W riding on hit is a setting ._ .
Hyper Armor on TCS? Haven't noticed that yet I'll have to test that out!
Thank you for the guide ! What set do u recommend for post MR 6 ? we're still in TU3
I still don't get how you charge before powerstancing. The animation just charges and i can't do strong arm stance until the attack animation is done, by then it is already neutral already.
Keep holding the charge button during the charge and press l2
EXTREMELY BALANCED
good video
What Dango’s are required?
What's the names of the songs playing?
So what im hearing is if im playing true king manadome i could kick off a faery dragon for diagram if I figure out the combo... HMMMMMM. This sounds excellent.
I'm a bit confused with every video I encounter.
A lot of them say "In the Sunbreak patch".
If I don't get the Sunbreak expansion I don't have these changes ? Or these changes also apply for the base game even though I don't have Sunbreak?
The changes were applied to the base game before sunbreak came out, so you have them.
@@XanMH1 Thanks! You've got a sub :D
Man playing GS in coop is a pain, can some of you give some tips on how to use GS in multiplayer? I hardly have anytime to use the Strongarm Stance due to the aggro is impossible to get and whenever I charge for a TCS the monster always gets aggroed by the bow/bowgun player lol
GS always great for solo coz the monster mechanic more predictable.
The only weapon I haven't mastered because I can't remember all of the monsters moves
Rising slash no longer launching players makes me sad :( I want it back. It's fun between friends. There's still other moves that disrupt other players so it's not like people who primarially want to troll don't have other options.
I feel like this guide is a bit... Advanced?
I dunno. I literally picked up GS like two days ago (in a new save file as well, for the full experience) and this video didn't help me very much.
Just fiddling around with the weapon, I can already tell I'm gonna be a TCS enjoyer because oinga boinga numbers make happy juice in brain go big.
I need to know what skills will be most useful in any build, what attacks and movements I should be doing, what attacks have additional effects (does anything have stun?), and niche knowledge that's useful to know.
Pls send help
I have a beginner's guide too
@@XanMH1 is it still relevant with Sunbreak?
@@Happyfoam-lw3yt Yes.
Will you be doing build guides in the future?
I plan to!
im having problem landing TCS's in the direction I want, any tips on that?
love you vid btw
Hold the charge for a little bit (this allows you to adjust your aim) and keep pushing the left stick in the direction you want to hit, then release the attack button when you've lined up your attack.
What would a recommendation if you don't like having to counter with strongarm stance? Is TCS still decent by itself
TCS by itself is more than strong enough
can strong arm stance be used with the quick atking version of the regular thats medium dmg but esaly recoverable 🤔, fighting style ? ( the blue scroll atk style i mean )
You mean with Surge Slash? Yes, and they work well together.
This probably wont be seen but how does one activate strongarm when charging your slash? I might be dumb but it doesnt let me
While still holding the attack button, press L2 or whatever button you have for silkbinds
Poggies
Amazing tutorial, but I feel there should have been a mention of the niche play of hunting edge. To my knowledge it's the fastest way to kill monsters where SaS is inconvinient like afflicted Seregios, afflicted flaming espinas, flaming one or diablos. It literally is so powerful that it's just 10s below the WR on Risen Teostra for example, and only because the player wasn't playing perfect during the whole run. SaS is the standard and is overpowered but players should not shy away from Hunting edge, because where it works, it works better than SaS.
me 30 seconds in:
"what about the keyboard gamers?"
17:19
I play on pc tho, what does this mean
How important is focus for multiplayer?
It's nice to have but not mandatory. The reason it's recommended is that the monster's aggro isn't always on you which means you can't always use the counter to get level 3 attacks immediately. Focus comes in handy to get that extra charge level while the monster is attacking your teammates.
what is the move you did at 13:25 it looks like you carried you charge over to SCS
Tackle into neutral counter
@@XanMH1 what is neurtal counter? first time hearing it
@@narmishjain9583 Doing Strongarm Stance regularly, i.e. not from a charge.
@@XanMH1 ahh makes sense Thank you Xan
Greatsword really is the Valor HBG of this game
Damn, Monster hunter gets more technical with each new version.
I miss the time when Great sword was just slow big hits.
Min maxing sucks the fun out of everything.
Literally the best part of any rpg
I disagree man, I LOVE min maxing, I try to do it almost all the games that allow player customization of this level. Its the funnest thing to do in these games, otherwise the grind feels meaningless for me.