Why does consciousness create this CRUEL GAME?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มี.ค. 2024
- Does Reality have a PURPOSE?
1:34 The implicit assumption of duality
2:30 Does reality have a purpose?
5:20 Identification
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Paraphrasing Francis, there is beauty even in death and seeming suffering. Ultimately, all is of love. Either an expression of it or a desire for it. And even the desire stemming from seeming lack stems from this love. When we release our resistance to what is, flow, bliss, peace, and love is what's left which is our true nature. Sat Chit Ananda.
All I do is navigate my way through the world...
Doing my best, moment-to-moment,
to endure the least amount of suffering as possible...
And I keep doing that every day, just waiting to die.
There's no joy, no hope, no happiness in my life.
It's just pain and trauma and survival and misery.
I live in poverty. I am ashamed of my life.
I have severe (c)PTSD.
My heart is shattered.
Rage and grief consume every cell of my being.
I pray to heal from,
and be released from,
the prison of:
- poverty
- aches and pains
- an inflexible mind and body
- diabetes
- PTSD flashbacks
- (c)PTSD
- suicidal depression
- homicidal rage
- grief
- guilt
- regret
- loneliness
- heartache/heartbreak
- repression/suppression
- soul rape
- a silenced voice
- a lack of boundaries
- perpetual aloneness
- obesity
- trauma
- obsession/rumination
- the past
- spiritual attacks and curses
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Well if you can't even defeat obesity ..
I can imagine how this might feel and I'm so sorry for you.
I know this kind of fight, but I also know a route out of it, which worked for me, but everyone's situation is different and different strategies might be needed.
My best quess for good advice is:
Do your best, moment-to-moment, to listen to what your body needs and make it feel as comfortable as possible (but avoid things that backfire in the long run like drugs, excessive drinking or binge eating junk food). Be compassionate with yourself. Acknowledge your feelings and vices and be patient with them. Consider them entities that just want to protect you or help you cope, but haven't realized that the danger is long over and they can calm down now. Don't make too big of a deal of unpleasant feelings. They are not pleasant, but they are not actually true. They do not reflect the reality of this moment, but they are remnants of the past, when you *felt* like you were overwhelmed. You're always doing better than your feelings tell you and the world is always a nicer place than it seems due to your overactive nervous system.
If you have negative thoughts or emotions are getting out of control, focus on the bodlily feelings only in order to learn that they cannot harm you. If this seems too treatening still, find some distraction outside or in a pleasant memory and learn techniques how to calm down racing thoughts and connect with positive feelings. Relaxation techniques are different. Definitely try them as well, but use them only in moderation. If you can only relax to a certain degree, that's ok, don't continue with this stuff, if it makes you feel worse. Relaxation means you put down your defenses. That's why a traumatized nervous system, which still acts as if it was in danger, actually feels unsafe when the mind relaxes too much. Meditation is similar here, but even more potent. It might help to calm down in moderation, especially if you find that detached observer position, or that space beyond your sufferings, but it might easily do more harm than good at this point, as it can bring up more than you can process. I would maybe not recommend it if you carry too much trauma.
Practice positive thinking either by positive affirmations in areas where you tend to fall into negative thought patterns. Affirmations compassionatly responding to your adopted beliefs appear to be especially helpful. First find your self-sabotaging beliefs, investigate them to see that they are not actually true, then formulate an alternative positive affirmation, which also considers any objections your mind might come up with. Make a list of (1) things you accomplished, (2) of what you enjoyed and (3) what you are grateful for each evening. I need to emphasize, positive thinking alone will not heal you, but it's crucial to be able to break the spiral of feelings feeding thoughts and thoughts feeding feelings ultimately.
Don't push yourself, if you need to take a break, take a break. But if you can, keep productive, even if you don't feel like it. Actions follow feelings, but feelings also follow actions. Form some good daily habits, give your days some structure. Accomplish something that gives you the experience of success (= not being stuck), even if it's just little things. Keep in mind that it's much harder to accomplish things with a traumatized body, when feelings are constantly working against you. Find the things you enjoy the most and that give you a sense of purpose and keep doing them. See if you can find someone who supports you or who you can at least share some interest with. Try out sports. Yoga and dancing have been shown to be especially helpful for some with CPTSD.
Once you have established a sufficient stability and a certain sense of safety, you can start to process your trauma more actively, or rather help the body process it. This invoves the willingness to experience extreme feelings and the stability not to get entangled in them, but let them pass through instead. How can you do this? Pay attention to the unpleasant feelings in the body, without trying to manipulate anything, while doing a repetitive bilateral motion, e.g. quickly tapping alternatingly with your left and right hand on your tighs. Every 30 seconds or so pause and analyse how the feelings in your body have changed, what they are called, how intense they are on a scale of 1-10 and where you feel them. Then repeat, until you feel better than when you started the session. If you feel the urge to yawn, laugth, cry, cough, scream, tremble, stretch or move in any way, that's a good sign. Just let it happen. It's the body's way to gradual rid itself from trauma. In case and you are starting to get overwhelmed, stop and stabilize. Don't overload yourself with too much at a time. You need time to recover still.
This technique is called EMRD and it really works, but I should caution that you might not be ready to do it without the support of a therapist. I was assuming you can't afford a therapist. If you have the chance to see one, of course don't hesitate to do so, but be aware that you need a good one with cutting-edge knowledge on trauma therapy.
All of these are options. It's much better to find a few things that work for you and keep doing them consistently than to try everything and stick to nothing.
@@fidrewe99 a million thank yous!!! God bless you for this!
“Clouds are clouding, rain is raining, and people are peopling.”-Alan Watts. There is no separate self to have purpose, just do what needs to be done and don’t think twice about it. Purpose is whatever “you” (from the relative perspective ) want it to be, if that’s how you want to approach life.
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"Just do what needs to be done." Right there, all the duality was again reintroduced.
@@jonashjerpe7421 we have to make concessions with agreed-upon mouth sounds otherwise we would just sit here in silence and never say a word. When I say do what needs to be done, I don't mean it in a sense that it has to be done, I mean just be responsible to yourself, as there are no "others".
@@jonashjerpe7421 ultimate reality encapsulates relative reality you can’t have one without the other so yes still chop wood etc
"clouds are clouding, people are peopling"
WOW THAT'S SOME GENIUS WISDOM RIGHT THERE WHY DIDN'T I LEARN IT SOONER AHAHAHAAHAH
We are broken pieces to a "me" puzzle. Which means it's going to take us learning how to love ourselves and quit killing ourselves to be sane again. We need to very carefully put this puzzle back together again like Humpty Dumpty.
The question "doesn't make sense" (I would have phrased it differently) because the One Being plays all of the parts according to its will and there are no separate people anywhere doing anything. The One Being plays the good guys and the bad guys alike. That's why it's often hard to accept.
Yup --there is no you as free will the ego. The bad guy is happening by itself we Hindus saying astrology like the planets pulling the strings in puppet and good one is infinite being itself . Either way there is no free will or ego is an illusion I think that’s what’s hard for anyone to accept.
"The question makes no sense" because it makes no sense to for sentient beings to be cruel to one another. In fact, the NON recognition of reality being whole or "nondual" is really a form of insanity, and that is what is truly cruel. Francis could have just as well asked the questioner "why are you so cruel?" which would have been a more compassionate and direct teaching.
The whole is not something you can look at and qualify. You are either recognizing it or you are not.
I agree with that, the one, plays everybodys part of the good guys and the bad guys, I do think about it alot, and maybe that's not the right answer, but maybe it is.😁😌😌
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Here the answer from Satyam Nadeen: Consciousness likes to experience limitations. I like this answer. The same question "why are we dreaming"...because the mind likes to experience limitations". Even if life is only happiness...it is a limitation....because one day all the happy moments disappear and then we are like in Reha. Yes I know, there is no separate self...but it is consciousness doing this illusion of separation. I consciousness want to suffer...
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The spiritual texts refer to reality as "unchanging" "having no beginning or end" etc. At the end of this dialogue, Francis then talks about it from the human perspective, that birth and death are necessary for how the whole system evolves.
It's definitely clear that something is happening. That is the clear fact in consciousness, that it is happening. It would seem that reality is some kind of self-growing, expanding evolving -ness. . Why is this? Why a sprouted seedling need to reach for the sun? It is clear that in presence that the sheer infinitely complex specificness of what is happening seems to be the reality expanding itself. It would seem that reality was once much more simple before. That at one point there were no molecules, no stars, even no fire etc, certainly no animals... it was less complex. The first thing that occurs to you in meditation is just how infinitely specific it is. And the realization in consciousness is certainly a product of this complexity.
It would seem the purpose of being is somehow to assist in the expansion of this reality.
💜 The days and nights of Brahmá (not to be confused with Brahman=the one life, the absolute) are a pointer to that...(pralayas and manvanataras)
Hope so as imagine already painful deaths in nature, Arthur Schopenhauer said there are some turtles that go lay eggs on shore and some wolf/dogs come and bite them underneath their armor to death and kill them and this cycle happens over and over and over... That is absolutely senseless cruelty for no reason at all!!! And we are still primed from era 10 000 years ego. Imagine 2.6M of human evolution all painful deaths and suffering you will have to go through not to mention all animals suffering... It is impossible suffering is astronomical, it is absolutely insufferable and unbearable...
If there is such a thing as purpose, it must be to actualize our full potential as human beings and be an expression of the reality that we are.
@@Hermit-lo7bw Or, simply by being we actualize some kind of expansion of reality... this impossible complexity of any moment that can only exist just for "you" can only be because of "you", and by being "you" are creating the next platform of complexity from which other beings (yous) can continue with ever greater expansion. Perhaps this is the only "purpose". We are already "realized" just by being. Getting caught up in ego gets in the way of the process. Hopefully this makes some kind of sense, and I don't just sound like a raving lunatic....
@@wighatsuperreggie It makes perfect sense and I like your thinking. After all, from a single cell to the human being, there has been a constant evolutionary process of change to ever higher forms of life, deeper, and finer states of consciousness.
Fragmented reality is still a reality. There are no questions and there are no answers.
Perhaps the "purpose" of life is to produce what it produces - the "understanding", of "I AM" as "IT IS".
If there is such a thing as purpose, it must be to actualize our full potential as human beings and be an expression of the reality that we are.
all I do is suffer
44 years of hell
and I can't find escape
I am only living in agony
I wish you relief from pain soon 🙏 ❤️ blessings 🤗❤️
Of course the question makes sense from the perspective of the perceptions of the majority of people. Unless you have attained unity consciousness or your life is fairly privileged, this answer will remain unsatisfying.
Pure Consciousness is perfect, and cannot get any more perfect or complete. The only way to experience becoming more perfect, is to forget that that's what it is. It then shrouds itself in a small ego that convinces itself that it's not pure consciousness, and thus suffers for it.
Hi Thanks for this and your other helpful videos ,I am looking for the video , meditation on the fear posture or the I posture ,I used to use it regularly now I can,t find it ? Thanks for any help on this..
It was called The Ultimate Asana. I guess it's not there any more.
Oh Thank you anyway.❤
It’s because people are not conscious that causes the problem
and never will be....thats the point
from a relative perspective you can say that it is the nature of a duality two incorporate both opposites. happiness, sadness, wealth, poverty, violence, peace, etc. The desire to have one and not the other is where suffering begins.
From the perspective of the absolute you can say there is nothing happening at all as it is an appearance that 'looks' like something is happening. The reality is that which is undivided, immutable, whole, infinite, complete, and one without two.
The fact that leaves are falling alone is not cruel, but if consciousness identified itself with the leaves, it would it be a different story, because there would be suffering. The cruel thing is not the trauma that happens to the body in life, but the fact that consciousness identifies itself with these conflicts or with the mind experiencing them, and thus creates suffering. If something doesn't matter from a perspective of truth, but I make a person feel miserable, because I create a terrible illusion and keep him or her in ignorance that everything is fine, that would still be very cruel of me, right? I don't see how that is not the case and if it isn't, how can we not also deny all ethics and responsibility as well? How can I move towards a cosmic perspective without denying compassion? I mean if my cosmic being doesn't care about anyone's feelings, because there is objectively no need to suffer because of feelings (at least if one is perfectly enlightened like almost nobody), I'm a bit terrified which kind of it would make me.
Is it not called 'leela' ?
"Going on means going far ; Going far means Returning "....Lao Tse , Tao Te King...
Reality IS exactly as it IS, because that IS the only way it can BE. The BEING (SAT, or Brahman) of Reality is absolutely perfect, and delights (Ananda) in expressing that perfection just as it IS. As conscious beings, we are continually invited to KNOW (CHIT) this IS so.
wow incredible wisdom flowing through your fingers into your keyboard - its all perfect and that's it you truly have all the answers why didn't we come to you sooner
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Your argument is flawed and indicates determinism. The truth is nobody has the slightest clue yet many individuals pretend they know and hide behind some fancy words.
@@aleksmartini4 Very true. Yes. Even the greatest of hindu scriptures, if you go a layer behind it, you'll see that the greatest sages of all times considered themselves agnostic, meaning they knew a little or half-truths, and left the rest for the future to discover and make sense of through scientific means.
When The One (Consciousness) decided to make its appearance, maybe IT DID NOT HAVE A CLUE that it would look like a war (between millions of seemingly different cosciousnesses...) because It Knows Itself - and therefore all these seemingly different parts of Itself - as Love
Can someone explain this in shaper form, it is long shot at best i think!
Conventional wisdom relates to things in time and space. Questions such as why, when, where, what, how, and who apply to the phenomenal realm. Concerning the Absolute, they are considered “unfit” questions because they presume the Absolute to be an object or event in time. The timeless is not bound by the things of time and thus, what applies to objective phenomena does not apply to the reality of the here and now. Here in the absence of space, and now in the absence of time.
Beware of unfit questions like, does a unicorn have one horn? For example, to ask what are you doing is like asking what the weather is doing. It is an unfit question because it presumes the existence of weather and assigns it the ability to do 'snowing' or 'raining' etc. Raining and snowing IS the weather; the weather itself does not exist apart from what is happening. On a similar note, nondual awareness: there is not selfless awareness AND its object-the object is what it looks like.
The difficulty lies with trying to apply what works in the relative world of name and form to the nameless Unborn Source of the Absolute. Knowing no other world than that of time and space, seekers expect the same principles to apply to the timeless, and boundless reality. They demand answers regarding the limitless satisfy a limited mind. This results in much confusion and is an obstacle to clarity within both spiritual and scientific circles. The part cannot understand the whole.
Francis doesn't talk much but it is easy to see in his eyes that he doesn't say everything. The truth of the matter is that spirituality is not about knowing, it is about not-knowing.
Very neo advaita answer without compassion for the valid and human question to actually say: I don't know.
Has nothing to do with neo advaita, but with revalation of a higher (nonpersonal) perspective.
I recognised it many years ago without knowing anything about (neo) advIta.
@@sandrag8656 Well I guess we all have different revelations.
I noticed before that he gets irritated and bypasses instead of really understanding the question and adress it with compassion.
@@Karlien68once you had THIS revelation (the one he is talking about) you can't deny it's truth.
He sticks to this deeper truth to help his "students" to get it. He also says: "On the persomal/ human level there is good and bad."
He sees both.
@@Karlien68 compassion starts with dispassion....
@@owl6218 The original term is vairagya. Dispassion is a word that is a wrong translation/understanding of it.
Humility is also an important one.
Ramana Maharshi never denied that there is a relative existence. Body and mind might be illusory but it doesn't mean it is not there.
The original question was: why if only the absolute is real and already perfect, is this world, people, suffering etc...there.
It is kind of extremely easy to answer that with only the absolute is real. That is neo advaita.
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rage
grief
loneliness
despair
longing
desperation
suffocation
hatred
anger
powerlessness
regret
shame
THE ABOVE ARE THE CONSTANTS IN MY LIFE
ALONG WITH PTSD FLASHBACKS
I'M IN HELL WITH NO ESCAPE
Ego used in ask and response. The question was the answer.
Silence, listen, inspect, understand, accept.
Consciousness doesn't do anything. It just is. It is WE who do.
I didn't get the connection tell the Autumn analogy, thanks
We ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE, if we did not forget WHO and WHAT we are. If we were AWARE that WE are creating it OURSELVES, it would not BE this kind of EXPERIENCE. If we knew it was ALL COMING FROM WITHIN OUR OWN SELVES, and is NOT FROM ANYTHING OR PLACE FROM OUTSIDE OURSELVES, it would be a different EXPERIENCE. "We create our own Reality, from our thoughts, beliefs and intentions" Whatever we give our ATTENTION TO, WE BECOME. We become what we hate, we become what we love, we become what we fear, whatever we give our ATTENTION TO. (it is ALL FROM the God within) The "I AM, THAT I AM" from the Bible. Put anything in place of the "THAT I AM" and give it constant attention and that is what you will become. And also what you are, the image and likeness of God, that we have forgotten, and become disconnected from.
I think that there is a goal to go for. I think that the goal is to discover the fulfilled singualar soul inisde, present inside the "emptiness" of infiniteness..
Consciousness ist a form in motion, where is inside this for is a motion also.
please Jesus heal me, I cry out to you with all my soul...
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What we think is reality (this world) is actually an illusion. Illusions have no purpose. We suffer because we need to understand we must left this illusion behind, as soon as possible.
Saying it couldn't be any other way because the one is a unity doesn't describe reality at all since it omits my personal experience of having a purpose.
'Astute'? No! How can consciousness have an intention?? It just IS. No cause, no effect. No purpose. It is all there is, so there is nothing that is separate---- in (illusory) time or space..
This is an okay answer (nice tree metaphor), but anyone can tell from the lack of fluidity of the response, there is a lack of knowledge. "Why does suffering exist?"- a classic question. The answer is simple- God gets tired of being blissful all the time. Why does God get tired- because God is subject to change. Why is God subject to change?- Because God is not separate from physics. Physics = movement and change, For those that believe God is metaphysical and outside of physics- That is duality. Blatant duality. I am The Avatar.
sir...you just made that up. Really you "know" that God is not separate from physics, really? What else do you know about God?
@@radscorpion8 I am God
@@energybender So am I and you're talking glib nonsense: the One is as illusory as the Many, be it 2, 3, or 4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie. Mmmm...pie....
god attempting to understand itself is pure beauty, no logic can touch it
Reading most of the comments here I sadly realized that most of them are about a quotation or some famous words of a master or even the words of religion scripts and so on.I wonder what are you doing here having already fixed opinions about so deep and hard to grasp issues?Are you here just to impose your views on others or perhaps to proudly demonstrate your copied knowledge...where is the hunger to deeply investigate on the speaker standpoint?
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