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The 3 Steps to Self-Realization & Psychedelics

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  • 0:00 What are the steps to Self-Realization?
    2:05 Step 1: recognize that I am awareness rather than the body
    7:25 Step 2: investigate the evidence of why you believe awareness is dependent upon the body
    9:28 Step 3: is consciousness limited?
    11:52 Psychedelics
    14:50 Mirror analogy
    19:55 "The instruments of grace are not very predictable."
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  • @sanekabc
    @sanekabc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's beautiful. "The instruments of grace are not predictable."

  • @rainrichards8068
    @rainrichards8068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes for now, I see that Consciousness/Awareness is actually like a mirror reflecting, but isn't the real thing, only the reflection of the real which is : Being

  • @patrickwal55
    @patrickwal55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lovely talk. He speaks with quiet confidence about things he knows very deeply, but also a bit about things he knows only a little bit about (like psychedelics). He is of course entitled to his opinion and point of view, but I find other teachers much more useful on that one topic.

  • @Misslotusification
    @Misslotusification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "The instruments of grace are not very predictable."

  • @fabianandresdemurogarcia8725
    @fabianandresdemurogarcia8725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Francis.

  • @hemamalinirs1002
    @hemamalinirs1002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Francis ❤

  • @eamonnspirit
    @eamonnspirit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Merci beaucoup, Francis. Merveilleuse.

  • @ailidhlalala1592
    @ailidhlalala1592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never thought of it that way..... But it was obvious.... I was the only one of my friends who had a moment of grace when I took mushrooms... Where I knew that I am.... And more precise only am without I...... I couldn't reproduce it but I had other experiences like I was looking down to my thinkingmind normal reality and I saw that all of my problems where made up by my mind......

  • @jacquesboutelet8643
    @jacquesboutelet8643 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoying you more and Francis

  • @markobythesea
    @markobythesea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Delicious - I thought about making the trip from San Diego today - now really wishing I had! Many thanks for broadcasting!

  • @Ribsi62
    @Ribsi62 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The word evidence seems to dance in a bit dimmed light corner and kissed there gently and wild the words users. Of course not all of them, dimmed corners have limited space, for the number of dancers who could kiss there. Now this is an evidence, that that, is also not the last word.
    Asthavakra to King Janaka: Thank you, and see you again

  • @jacquesboutelet8643
    @jacquesboutelet8643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Francis you help me so much !

  • @dharmaservant
    @dharmaservant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOVE YOU Francis.

  • @adolforosado
    @adolforosado 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙏

  • @ailidhlalala1592
    @ailidhlalala1592 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny, I had a similar experience at my first mushroom trip.... I knew why I am here.... And I am and later only the felt sense of being without I.... Couldn't reproduce it either, though I didn't really try to, the following trips had their own experiences and we're fun too, up until a point and that's where I stopped
    I was very philosophical before that already, with about 7 years I wondered that existence includes me...

    • @ailidhlalala1592
      @ailidhlalala1592 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just realized that I already commented here😂

  • @rivalism
    @rivalism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bet that car story was personal experience.

  • @stevedawson6979
    @stevedawson6979 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don’t do drugs, you don’t need drugs.

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm grateful to have all this plainly stated, but....I can't see how to verify that consciousness is not related to the body in any way. Certain drugs (anesthetics, for example) -- when put in the body -- seem to be able to stop consciousness, which would seem to be strong evidence that consciousness is produced by the body. I'd be grateful to anyone who could clarify this point for me.

    • @mccrackenalec
      @mccrackenalec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      GetMeThere1 I suggest you should examine whether when you refer to consciousness you’re talking about awareness, or consciousness solely, purely, or rather if there is this slight inference of consciousness being, consciousness « of something » like a body for instance. Because then of course, during deep sleep or while being under anesthesia we loose sight of the body and so we call the experience nothing...but is it really nothing ? You may want to try thinking about it with the metaphor of the observer, the telescope and the observed... hope it helps. Deep sleep would be when not looking through the glass, but then if you’re used to identify with the telescope and the observed, during the absence of observed stuff, you would be right saying the observer and the telescope are one and the same thing.

    • @carlavela7106
      @carlavela7106 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Consciousness, create through imagination the ego-mind-body, so Consciousness can travel, to have experiences and for enjoying the illusory world and universe.
      If the body-mind is unconscious, then Consciousness is not able to experiment anything.
      Because of the ego-mind that believes that the body is sleeping or disconnected to the world.
      It's only an imaginative limitations that the ego-mind is playing.
      The ego-mind believes that he has the power or free will to do something...
      feels he is the doer.
      But the truth is that everything is only happening.
      Consciousness or Awareness is not trapped or limited to the body-mind.
      So Awakening is about the ego-mind that has to realise that he is not the doer.

    • @eamonnspirit
      @eamonnspirit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems you are inferring that consciousness cannot exist without an object to be conscious of. Yet, we may know that we had a good night's sleep when we wake up in the morning. Object Constancy is important to the Body-Mind and essential to our early development because it seemingly confirms its security. That is why most of us fear death.

    • @GetMeThere1
      @GetMeThere1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mccrackenalec I'm not really following that, sorry. If I'm asked "Are you conscious," there is no problem saying yes. If I were under anesthesia (or in deep sleep), I could not testify -- then, or afterward -- that I was conscious; i.e., that "there is/was consciousness." How can I then make a claim that a certain condition of the body is not required for consciousness?

    • @tbayley6
      @tbayley6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree these sorts of arguments don't really make sense. I think it is better to understand why it is being made, which as far as I can see is just to highlight two things: 1) What it is (essentially) that we call 'I', and 2) What we are referring to by the word 'reality'. In both cases, the teacher wants to point to 'live' experiences that cannot actually be reduced by analysis without completely altering their nature. We are very tempted to do so however, and then the freedom of live experience tends to be overlooked in favour of a conditioned set of descriptions and conclusions. That essentially dead 'knowledge' (it's just a model) is regarded as 'more real' than the living reality itself. It can be a useful model of course, if it serves the living, but it can get bogged down serving itself. And that is the unfortunate state of many people, who end up depressed or dissatisfied and seeking some more lively 'reality'. Somehow a spiritual teacher has to find a way to point to the fundamental significance of what they are overlooking - they see it but they dismiss it as having no importance!

  • @AndyAtar
    @AndyAtar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear friends, could someone recommend a practice to dissolve the feeling of separation? Meditation and self-inquiry contribute to the sense of separation between the seer and the seen (myself as awareness and objects) in my limited experience. After meditation, I as the awareness is still the seer and the Universe is still the seen, hence no oneness can be achieved with meditation and inquiry only IMO. Does Francis or other teachers give a suitable practice for achieving the first-hand oneness experience?

    • @JannikBoRasmussen
      @JannikBoRasmussen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can recommend the teachings of Rupert Spira, who is a student of Francis Lucille. He has posted several video clips on TH-cam about this theme, for example "Collapsing the Distance between Awareness and the Objects of Experience":
      th-cam.com/video/gK0arUFvU8c/w-d-xo.html
      I have found this to be very helpful. 🙏🏻

    • @AndyAtar
      @AndyAtar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JannikBoRasmussen Thank you so much for your kind reply! 🙏🏻

    • @AndyAtar
      @AndyAtar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kim Bong Thank you very much!

    • @sanekabc
      @sanekabc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      check out J.Krishnamurti who agrees with you. He says that the deliberate practice of meditation simply strengthens the ego.

    • @MuhammadKhan-vm5ow
      @MuhammadKhan-vm5ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The understanding there is only one reality, so the reality of your experience and the reality of the universe is one. Francis explains this in depth in the video 'spiritual dentistry'

  • @RT-fr9tn
    @RT-fr9tn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rupert, can you please post a talk detailing the experiments to show consciousness is not dependent on the body

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to disagree with Francis here. This is a major weakness of the neo-Advaita path. They aren't very good at teaching you how to get where they are. The truth is, for example, there is a ton of research into psychedelics that give us a pretty good idea of what works, how much to do, how long to do it etc.

  • @StephenJamesGoodWill
    @StephenJamesGoodWill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lol, "not too far fetched". Now the whole non-dual world knows Francis has experimented, shall we say :)

    • @scottchwp5463
      @scottchwp5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i didnt think it was possible to respect him more lol

    • @MuhammadKhan-vm5ow
      @MuhammadKhan-vm5ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought that also lol

    • @user-ru5is2bv8h
      @user-ru5is2bv8h 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what a cheap talk is going on here

  • @thefunze
    @thefunze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teeth?

  • @ck9411
    @ck9411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @tim13354
    @tim13354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually, there is zero evidence that consciousness is not the product of the brain. So if it is not; there must be a REASON. Which fact Mystics have not realized the necessity of addressing themselves to; when they presume themselves Teachers.

    • @tim13354
      @tim13354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kim Bong Neither do I.

    • @tim13354
      @tim13354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kim Bong If a person has realized something to be the case, he has simultaneously realized why it is the case.You have there the theory, and the proof....Everything else is the 'holy business'..

    • @tim13354
      @tim13354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kim Bong But to realize that it 'cannot be grasped by the mind', and why,, is itself a realization. By the mind. What else?

    • @xanderheiple7959
      @xanderheiple7959 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terrible semicolon usage

    • @tim13354
      @tim13354 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xanderheiple7959 Probably.

  • @SheikhN-bible-syndrome
    @SheikhN-bible-syndrome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are not all one universal consciousness I am not the same Consciousness as the child molester or the murderer or the rapist I have my own consciousness singular unique and I'll keep it that way while everybody else commit spiritual suicide by linking up through belief and Imagination

    • @ElizabethReninger
      @ElizabethReninger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If Francis were here, he might ask: What is the *actual evidence* that your Consciousness (that which is understanding these words, right now) is "singular" and "unique"?

    • @SheikhN-bible-syndrome
      @SheikhN-bible-syndrome 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElizabethReninger I think you are looking at it backwards because a claim of something being a certain way has to be proven
      And not a rejection of a certain claim. He is claiming We Are All One consciousness which is part of the viral new-age misunderstanding trying to unify everybody for control. We are singular and individual and this can be experienced by asking anybody or being a human being and noticing that you are individual from anybody else. Don't mistake certain situations where you can experience through somebody else as being only one unit because there's a difference between experiencing something and it being that way from the dawn of time.

    • @JonasAnandaKristiansson
      @JonasAnandaKristiansson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to say but wrong.
      And, it is not some silly new-age stuff that your mind makes it out to be.
      The content of your first comment, who is the one righting that? Meditate on it, and you will find it is the person, the ego, duality. There are many ways for any and everyone to experience this for oneself, not just by belief or intellectual fun housing.
      Anyway, the best to you.

    • @SheikhN-bible-syndrome
      @SheikhN-bible-syndrome 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonasAnandaKristiansson lol ok good luck to you too

    • @Sambasue
      @Sambasue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is no evidence that “your” consciousness is unique to you.

  • @IngridSkard
    @IngridSkard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What's with the casual misogyny just peppered through this talk? It's not "hilarious".

    • @ellisgarvin
      @ellisgarvin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I can assure you, no women were harmed in the making of this motion picture.

    • @Bjarku
      @Bjarku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ingrid Skard I think you’re infected with the woke sjw disease darling. Hope you recover from it

    • @Bjarku
      @Bjarku 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time Less women have poorer spacial awareness than men on average. Not all women, my wife is better than me at parking but we can’t deny reality when we’re talking about reality. And it’s a reality that women struggle more with spacial awareness and parking on average

    • @IngridSkard
      @IngridSkard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bjarku Doesn't justify casual displays of contempt from a figure who displays himself as a truthsayer.

    • @suryaone1180
      @suryaone1180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@IngridSkard I have also noticed this. Even after the realization, the conditioning of the body-mind by the social structure remains. We still have patriarchy. I've noticed Rupert Spira is more aware of this and uses female pronouns for God