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It Will Haunt You
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2018
- A non duality dialogue about defining the Real 'I', Presence, projecting onto Consciousness, the color of Presence, and mental/tangible understanding.
"That which is hearing these words is not tangible."
Related dialogue: 4 Objections Regarding Consciousness -- My Mind Resists the Idea That I Am Consciousness • 4 Objections Regarding... & The Qualities of Consciousness • Video
(From Temecula dialogue with Francis Lucille 2018 03 31 3)
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Such a beautiful dialogue, I feel very grateful to have found it and to have found Francis. Heart overflowing with love and appreciation.
Such a sincere question, and the questioner is so honest with himself and thus with Francis.
I remember Francis saying during one of the retreats that the type of a question and the question itself leads to the type of an answer and the answer itself 🙏
"You cannot pretend that you're not conscious.." Lucille is BRILLIANT!!...
you made me explore the truth and have that direct experience of it so beautifully , gently
An astoundingly brilliant teacher. So creative with metaphor and his ability to meet the student on their level of understanding ❤
It's amazing how something so simple can be made so complicated.
I loved this exchange and the sincerity of the questioner. Francis is such a good teacher.
+Sharon Brooks Francis was the guru of Rupert Spira...so..he HAS to be good...
Yeah, I loved the sincerity and the confusion of the questioner... He was a hard nut to crack and I'm certain he will vascillate between what he believes and what his direct experience is for some time to come. But as Francis says "It will haunt you". It does. Reality, once tasted, cannot be ignored because the joy of natural being is so much more than anything the imagination can devise. Like Rupert Spira, it haunted me for nearly thirty years, but eventually that smoldering ember will erupt into a blazing conflagration of Truth. Actually , that's a bit of a dramatic metaphor, awakening can be a very quiet process rather than some explosive event and is probably more sustainable that way. But both ways are valid. Whatever your experience is, is the way for you.
@@glynemartin That's why I checked him out. Rupert is very eloquent and his parable of the screen is great, but Francis is making it simple, he sticks to the direct experience here and now at its rawest. A treat for the confused mind.
@@davidhollyfield5148 Yes, the questioner is so sincere, persevering and genuinely interested. As I perceived it, he was initially stuck believing that consciousness is an object - but he did really get it, thanks to both Francis and himself. A pleasure to watch!
Francis, You Led me to Me. Bliss to be Me. Thank You Sir.
It’s impossible to ignore the apparent ear to the gentleman’s right in the form of a chair. It is silently hearing these words right now😊
This is such a wonderful dialogue, thank you for sharing it.
C’est pour moi un plaisir de connaître Francis, il a vraiment changer quelques chose dans ma vie, je me sent plus heureux à chaque jour, merci Francis
Oh goodness this is very very powerful. Much powerful than any other videos of my master. I think it is often very difficult to comprehend this immense freedom that comes from the direct contact with consciousness therefore there is a sudden contraction in the body and we immediately feel limited. But the freedom has always been there right beneath whenever we like to dive into it. Thank you master.❤️
He's just freaking amazing. Francis. Sometimes his words hit me straight.
Me as well. Just listening to him is a pleasure. I was sitting and straining to meditate, to be, and be with. I was unconsciously trying to improve the state of the separate self. That changed after I started listening to Francis. Now, I’m much improved, but without effort 😄
Thank you!
Superb Session Fantastic Explanation !!!! Merci Francis!!! Thank you.
I came across this type of discussion long time ago, and it took me a while to get the handle of it because one lives so involved and identified with your life that it spills over unto other situations, ways of thinking, etc. What I have learned over the years about this topic that is helpful on an everyday basis is not to get caught up in the drama, that is, the movie on the screen. And that has helped me keep my blood pressure down while feeling more centered and at ease with what happens. So far so good!
"Would you rather have a Ferrari or a picture of a Ferrari." Haha... Nice one!
also really appreciate the questioner-thank you! And Francis too!
It was good of him to put himself on the spot like that……he was just being too clever: thinking too much. Lovely excruciating exchange 👍👍👍
Learning how to “identify” as intangible Awareness or….
Refusing to continue to seek identity or understanding, as the body/mind……
Either which way !!! ❤
Oh this is hilarious! The poor boy. See him knotting his troubled brow. OMG. Francis, I salute you. You're a hero, to be doing this all the time.
understanding is a form of experience! that is true!
How do I know I am aware? or Is it possible to be unaware? - superb questions to ponder on. When I ask either of these questions and meditate on them - it feels that there is a deep searching going on that 'I' seem to be aware of.
Perception IS synonymous with awareness in the broadest sense. To be aware of anything in the external world the object have to be perceived, to be aware of thoughts they have to be perceived and for us to be aware that we are aware this has to be perceived or recognised.
A TOO BEAUTIFUL LOVING EXPLORATION ABOUT THE NATURE AND TRUTH OF OUR REAL SELF WHICH WE CALL PRESENCE BEINGNESS CONSCIOUSNESS OR THE REALITY THAT IS ALWAYS PERCEIVING OR WITNESSING.THE COLORLESS OR WITHOUT SIZE AWARENESS OR CONSCIOUSNESS.THE DIRECT PEACEFUL AND SILENT OBSERVER OR MR SILENT PURUSHA OF INDIA.THANK YOU SIR FRANCIS FOR UPLOADING THIS VIDEO FOR ALL OF US.
Most humanity is like this men, identified with conceptual world/virtual reality.
Presence is omnipresent 🙏❤
He was baffled. I Understand but felt his pain of confusion.
WE ARE THAT THAT FORMLESS CHOICELESS LISTENER.THE SEER THE OBSERVER THE SILENT PURUSHA.
THE EXPERIENCING OF CONSCIOUSNESS IS THE UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
Unbelievable patience in the presence of a scatterbrain.
Absence is non existence. Nisargadatta Maharaj would argue that absence of absence is the ultimate non state, therefore reality.
so then I turn to God whatever I feel God is! to just give me the strengh to go another day!
I think your are the same guy asking questions to adyashanti in I got it ,I lost it video
he absolutely is haha
😂😂😂, dude is living in hell, the mind. Soon, he will drop it though.
If body/mind is an object in consciousness, so is body/mind conscious? I would say, No, body/mind is not conscious, only consciousness is conscious.I stick with this understanding.
trying to understand consciousness as an object, no wonder he's confused
Yes, it's so simple yet he kept making it complicated - Francis is so patient LOL
Yes. But sadly we are conditioned to understand everything as a subject/object dichotomy with us as the subject. Every message our culture gives us reinforces this false understanding. The firmer our belief in so-called 'objective reality' the harder it is to trust that we are not an object seperate from everything else. Something as nebulous as consciousness (until experienced) cannot be grasped by the objectifying mind.
I'm somewhat new to Francis. Does anyone know what he thinks of Adyashanti and his teachings?
Not sure what he thinks but Adyashanti has a Buddhist background and Francis comes from Vedanta. Check out Rupert Spira, he is Francis's student
@@alone15151 love me some rupert 😁
They have met. Francis said that he liked Adya’s Silence. Adya talks about enjoying meeting Francis in one of his Satsangs.
There is one unlimited consciousness. How can we live as this consciousness and not as the finite mind?
Michael Danielson
by connecting consciously with the inner silent space of awareness and by eliminating the egoic self, (ego or I), ie. pride, fear, lust, greed, arrogance, envy, anger, ....
Moment to moment disidentifying from the egoic structures and the ego itself and identifying with the silent space within!
The main thing is how much you want freedom and truth.
Thank you, so being aware and not identifying is the best practice?
Yes, this is the core of spirituality.
We must find out ways, to do this skillfully. We must learn and practice to deepen in Self-awareness by meditation and self-enquiry, and find ways to dettach from thoughts, emotions, impulses, desires, the body and the ego itself etc,. and lerarn methods to dissolve gradually the egoic tendencies.
Eagerness, Sincerity, patience, preseverence , self'confidense, tenacity, determination, devotion, simplicity, sommon sense and diligent constant practice are the recipe of success in this endevour
AeonTV. Immaculate explanation. Amen to that.
AMEN
Five stars
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it's all about survival isn't it? if I don't feed my cats and dog they just die! it is on going for me I have to feed them whether I like it or not! and sometimes I complain, I don't like it!
Does the voice or the sound belong to the presence?
Ironic enough.. there is ALOT that can be learned/picked apart from this interaction
Here is the same guy from a few years ago:
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What a perseverance.
I was wondering that! This was recommended after that video for me
tony stark will never get this
Why teach this at all? What motivates a teacher to teach?
yeah. I get that. why am i doing it? because i am doing it@@martingarreis
It's haunting itself 😆😆😆
It's not the teacher who teaches.
It's helping all its fragments to recognise the truth of its own natural essence of Consciousness....
Awakening itself 💜💙💖
David R Hawkins
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I must comment to undo the big mistake which most of the seekers Do ON attaining a certain stage of UNDERDTSNDING OF THE TRUTH
same mistake is being done here too.
He says THAT ONE WHO IS HEARING ME ,IS I THE ONE WHICH WE CALL CONCIOUSNESS OR REALITY.
This statement is FALSE,A STEP BEFORE THE TRUE STATE ,many remain caught up here.
The I THE Presence who is hearing is NOT THE TRUTH,NOT THE REALITY,not that we call CONSCIOUSNESS but only an IMAGE of Reality in MIND STUFF
THE SOURCE FROM WHICH THIS I OR PRESENCE OR HEARER RISES AND SETS IN IS THE TRUTH, THE TRUE I,OR PRESENCE.present I OR hearer is just the EGO ,or dream I.
O nly way to know TRUE I IS TO BE IT.
THAT I ABSORBS THE TRUE DEVOTED SEEKER INTO ITSELF.
which we call enlightenment,old person just dissolves,vanishes.
SW.SHARAD SARASWATI
INDIA.
Perhaps you have a different definition of consciousness, which I define as the reality which is hearing or, in this case, the reality which is seeing and reading these words right now. The reality of perceiving is beyond any doubts, unlike the things we perceive which could be illusory. You seem to be saying that there is another reality, in which case there are two realities, the one perceiving the words, and the other one, the Truth, God, This is Dvaita, duality. Advaita, Nonduality is the experience that these two realities are one. This is moksha, liberation.
meh
I think the student is good but the teacher is confusing lol.
It's the other way
The student is confused and stays so for a while
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Of course, you'd do better. That's what you're saying.