Dear Theodosia but both verses are sung simultaneously
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- A duet with counter-melody - starts a bit disjointed and then weaves together more and more.
Edit, December 9th, 2023: Because this is on my weird alt account, I didn't see that this had 40k views until the video was recommended to me on my main account! Glad that folks enjoy it.
I made this just for myself because I was curious what it would sound like, then posted it when I found it on my computer a year or so later.
I only found out after the fact that Hamilton and Burr sang the song like this in previews, but it makes a lot of sense!
Fun fact: In an early version of this song, after Hamilton's verse, Burr and Hamilton actually sang together like this!
really?
this needs to be pinned
Underrated ahh comment
It's so interesting how Hamilton is singing to the slower part of the beat while Burr is singing to the faster, plucky part
omg like a foil to burr's wait for it vibe and hamilton frantically doing as much as he can
Their children make them change their worldview. For a second, all that matters for Hamilton is to stop and be with his son, and at the same time, Theodosia makes Burr not be afraid to live and wants to keep going. And that’s paralelled and consolidated in the world was wide enough. Burr shoots so Theodosia won't be alone, not throwing away his shot. Hamilton waits for it, wishing to just stop and be with his son forever.
Woah, I never thought about Burr shooting so Theodosia wouldn’t be alone… that adds new context to “my father wasn’t around; I’ll be around for you.”
@@fractalbrooke yes!!! Also, of course, "this man will not make an orphan of my daughter"
Also burr has been associated with plucky strings so that’s a really cool detail
That "when you smile" part was so beautiful
0:35
Chills
ExACtly
I was just reading the comments when I saw this and the second I read I read it it happned
IKR I STARTED LITERALLY DYING IT WAS GOOD AAAHHHH
coming back now that i realized why the start put me off; for the first time in this whole musical, burr is singing _faster_ than alex. really reflects how their character foils flip because their motivations changed. now the goal is give the world to their children, and that means very different things to them.
And also Burr is singing higher than Hamilton, which is usually the opposite too, I think
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULDVE BEEN SANG OMG THIS IS PERFECT
it was supposed ot be
During the show's workshops, it was just like this! th-cam.com/video/gxcvWqThVQc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DOy6jvCvrqlvNOkt&t=3646
thatd be impossible in the musical u cant have 2 hamiltons at the same time
@@nyaball it’s not two hamilton wdym, burr and hamilton sing this song
It would've made it very difficult to understand both verses in a single viewing. Maybe if they'd done it like in Farmer Refuted...
apparently lin revealed this was going to be the origonal verse but cut it for some reason, not sure if you knew or a prediction genius
Just saw Lin's post and that made me find this video. Bro who posted this is a genius.
The way I'm hearing peoples' edits of the original song, they were meant to sing their verses alone and then sing them again at the same time resulting in this version as the second verse then continue to the rest of the song, so maybe that's what Lin meant when he said they cut it for time. Regardless, I'm impressed someone stitched this together long before Lin posted about it.
Leslie and Lin would probably get confused and mess up listening to one another sing different verses at the same time
@@aribellex*Leslie
@@aribellexthey're professionals, they can rehearse a complicated scene..
They all pulled off Satisfied, and that seemed to be the most mechanically difficult scene of the show
That perfectly synced “When you smile” hit my brain in such a way, just- AAAH🤌
Did we all get recommended this 5 year old video this week?
Seems so
YES??
Yep
no I searched for it
the algorithm seems to have been changed :D
I think the reason they decided not to do it like this is because it's a poignant part of their journey, they're at crossroads before they start drifting in their opposite directions, also allows us to connect more with the antagonist.
Burr is not the antagonist. There is no real antagonist after the revolution. Burr is just Hamilton's foil: largely similar characters with ONE major difference in character traits that make a world of difference. Hamilton lives "like he's running out of time" while Burr is willing to "wait for it." Hence, these phrases being motifs that are repeated throughout the musical. Every other difference in behavior between these two stem from these divergent motivations.
@@raynorrobinson2569 there's a difference between antagonist and villains. There are no villains but there are antagonists. Every story has an antagonist
@@SeanConway99 You're right: By the end of the story, Burr was an antagonist. However, at this point in the story, he certainly wasn't.
I never realized that the spaces were for the other to start singing their line!
The way their voices harmonize during "when you smile" at 0:34 is so beautiful.
35/36 but like AGREED ❤❤❤
It’s so amazing, yeah!!
and this is how dear theodosia solidified it’s place as my favourite hamilton song.
“mom why did you name my sister Tulip?”
“because your father and i love tulips”
“oh ok, thanks”
“you’re welcome, *Dear Theodosia but both verses are sung simultaneously*”
HAHAHAH 😂 This kind of joke gets me all the time
Tulip: "So I don't get a song?"
1:04 the swell at "you will come of age with our young nation"
music is such a beautiful thing, lin's mind !!
Writing's not easy. But Hamilton can help.
This Constitution is technically a mess, but its wordy and needs amendments.
This Constitution is technically a mess, but its wordy, and needs amendments.
this butters my biscuts
Jesus I feel this comment thoroughly.
wtf dude I glanced at this from my fyp and read it as “Dear Euthanasia”
EUTHANASIA BY WILL WOOD
💀
Very nicely made. Makes me think of Farmer Refuted, love the counterpoint there.
One small point of critique though, the levels are a bit off, Burr's verse seems way quieter than Alexander's.
I made this ages ago but I don't thiiiink I shifted the volume at all from the actual track, just layered the bits, but you're right, Burr is definitely quieter (alt. Lin is just loud)
@@ウルフオドネル-i6p i mean. hamilton was famously a loudmouth
@@asthejayfliesreal
I think that fits their personalities very well.
Fitting
THE "WHEN YOU SMILE" IM SCREAMINNGGG
I love burrs side so much more than Hamiltons. Especially when he says "ill make a million mistakes." Its such a sweet line. He knows hes gonna make mistakes in raising his daughter alone but hes prepared for it.
This is just a masterpiece. Lin should've kept it like this
im surprised someone did make this before lin said ab it on insta, let alone 4 years ago
no frr
what did lin say on insta
did you get boo’d away tell us we wanna know
@@maqqhe said that the song was supposed to be sung like this originally
@@smnthqxactually you can find the original dear theodosia from the workshop and the 2nd verse is exactly like this but released before lin talked about it
Alright, the original is very well structured and written; when THIS is the combined result.
Mad props!
This was originally the structure of a verse but since it didnt fit narratively for them to overlap (because their stories drift apart here) Lin decided to keep their verses seperate
Honestly, I'm more glad that we got what we got.
To me, letting all the stuff around them put to a pause and giving themselves a moment to breathe and appreciate that their child had just been born and this is the most important thing in the world to them at the moment should be given attention to.
They're not at odd each other, so no quippy lines or snarky retorts. Just two men looking back on what they've experienced in the past, and turning onto the future with hope; thus both Burr and Hamilton getting to sing about their children equally.
Plus the duet. It's the only time they do (except for Your Obedient Servant, I think), and in the context of this song, they're finding common ground and relating to one another.
With them overlapping like this, it feels messy and like they're tryna one-up each other again, so even though that "When you smile" harmonization, and the "And I thought I was so smart" lines together just hits our brains differently, the finalized version is, imo, still the better one lol.
Starting at 0:45 to the end I think this is just the actual song
yeah it is
Yeah
I’m singing this with my bsf at a school concert!! Can’t wait
HOW DID IT GO??❤❤
How did it go??
How'd it go?
how did it go???
@@Lev.0pit’s happening on the 12th I’ll update then
the “when you smile” part gave me chills 😭 (0:35)
I love this but, I understand why he kept them separate. The final version allows a space for both of them to share their love for their child and then show their similarities by singing together. Imagine what it’s like for the people hearing this for the first time. It would be a little overwhelming to hear two melodies and pick apart what the song is conveying. It’s giving more background on Burr without distractions. Allowing the audience to take in the information with issues. ❤❤❤
"I'll make the world safe and sound for you" just ❤
I would actually like these 2 particular songs if they sounded like this
Actually, it's just one song. Burr and Alex's verses are just combined.
I like how the owner still acknowledges the video
this is one of the best songs in hamilton.
im surprised it isnt sung to kids more often, its so sweet and specific
you could sing it to 2 kids and replace the 2 names with their names
I sing it to my kids ^__^
and replace some of the lines to be more relevant to you...
"my father wasn't around" 😬
this makes so much sense, since lin does that "everybody sings their own line and then they all sing them together" thing constantly (non-stop, farmer refuted, 96,000, blackout, probably others lol)
I love the symbolism of the song on how becoming a parent changes you. Burr always wants to be more than he is like Hamilton and it's like a switch changes him and he pushes himself to take that step and he's singing fast and snappy like Hamilton, not slow and calculated like normal, and Hamilton finally takes a breath and sees his world slow down because he has loved his life not knowing if he would make it past 20 and he writes like he's running out of time and makes fast and rash decisions, but when he becomes a father it's no longer about him and he finally takes a moment to slow down for his son
When I want to speed run Dear Theodosia
I love how in this song Hamilton and Burr’s personality got switched. Burr can’t stop talking about his daughter, whereas Hamilton is speechless.
PRAAIIIDAAEEE is not the word im looking for...
I get goosebumps every time I hear the transition from The Reynolds pamphlet to Burn
WHY IS THIS SO UNDERATED AND GOOD STOP-
Edit: I don’t wanna be that person but I AHVE NEVER HAD THIS MANY LIKES BEFORE
Not underated at all. Everyone is singing praises...
@@ZorgNothing thanks! :)
omg then dont be that person u dont need to thank people for liking ur comment like no one cares
This song makes me wanna cry
There are approximately 1,010,300 words in the English language, but I could never string enough words together to properly express how much i love that
The reason I love Hamilton so much is because of the way things overlap at times. I like music that blocks everything else out (probably why Non-stop is one of my favorites) and Lin-Manuel Miranda does it so well. I almost wish the song was actually sung like this, but it would need a little bit of tweaking in the beginning parts lol
0:33 the way their voices lined up was heavenly
I won't ever get tired of listening to this!
Workshop version be like:
this scratches my brain in all the right ways
IM LITERALLY BAWLING RN I WANT SOMEONE TO SING THIS TO ME AND MEAN IT 😭😭😭😭
This works so perfectly. This is such a beautiful song and the duet is wonderful.
I'm scared of having children but this song is making me want to have kids.
This is literally beautiful its AMAZINGGGGG
honestly there voices are so beautiful and the harmony is amazing! they honestly should have made it this way! this is one of my favorite songs.
Having them together makes the song sounds so much more emotional, like I'm literally about to cry
this sounded... better than I thought-
A nice piece dedicated to a father's love and commitment in raising his kids
this is so lovely. i adore this song, and hearing them sing together sounds so beautiful
It is so pretty sung together but i love both versions
yeah this is the real version now
This sounds so much better bro💀
😮 I wonder what this would sound like with one verse in the left ear and the other in the right
chills, jesus christ this good
_Burr sing faster_ and *Hamilton sings slower.*
Yeah it fits becuse hamilton is more of a think it over carfully and slowly and Burr is more rushing like ther is not enugh space for the both of us
Yeah, it fits alot. It's a very cool detail, I really like Lin-Manuel's symbolic (stuff) he puts in his songs.
So, Burr isn't waiting for it and Hamilton isn't writing like he's running out of time? *I N T E R E S T I N G*
I can see why it was elongated, unless you added the kids or the wives for another verse, there wasn’t more that needed to be said by these dads and that would be a very short song
its giving renaissance
i love this bro.
this song is SO CUTE i wanna sing it to my children some day
Y do they sound like two lost lovers in this wtf😭😭😭(these work too well istg it sounds sooo good)
One of my favourites songs in Hamilton
this was going to be the way ti waas supposed to be sung
Yup
stop tthis is going to make me cry
the regina spektor + ben folds version of this song incorporates some of these overlapping harmonies, it's really pretty :)
This is so beautiful! I would have loved to see it performed this way live.
HELP THIS IS SO FUCKING BEAUTIFUL
THIS IS AMAZING I LOVE IT I NEED THIS IN SPOTIFY
0:35-The harmony 🫶
I’ve listened to this every day since I found it
I want this to be an actual thing
This made me so emotional for some reason
This edit has a chokehold on me it’s insane💀🙏
Sounds good but definitely would have been much more confusing
SO good!!
this is perfection
why did l actually cry listening to this 🥲
If sondheim wrote this song, it would 100% be sung like this
And now I'm about to cry
Thank you
This is beautiful!
This got my 9yo cousin in tears 😭
that mf done even know bout taxes yet he think everything sunshine and rainbows lil mf gon lose his shit when he find out abt algebra 😭♎️ tell him to read a libra (book in spanish) [i’m not mexican]
i wish they kept this in! and im pretty sure if they did they were supposed to have elizas sing the chords at the end with burr and hamilton
Beautiful!!
Best version!!
this majestic frfr
I love this so much
This is great. Might be better to add just a tad bit of stereo separation for the vocals though. But regardless, beautiful.
Sobs(respectfully)
COUNTERPOINT + HAMILTON WE MUSIC NERDS HAVE WON TODAY
i do think that this is the better version, but only because i know what each party is or was going to say. Lin probably made each verse separate so that it can be more understandable the first time you listen
best version
It's a shame that such a beautiful song isn't that long or called back to in other songs
i love burrs verse
it would honestly be better if burr can be heard by the left ear and hamilton by the right ear
I feel like a 1:05 if ensemble continued burr and hamilton's verse of dear theodosia/phillip while hamilton and burr sang together, it would be beautiful aswell