exactly. they must've been like "let's illegally make a show with anti gay and Christian messaging, but let's make it about a gay man who cheated on his wife" yes, Hamilton was bisexual ♥💜💙
@@DeathnoteBB yes but the original comment itself was a joke, so by adding your own actual opinion makes it seem like you just don’t understand the joke
The "throwing hands at the ambassador of France" made me lose it. Combine it with Hamilton's "while you were off, getting high with the French" in Cabinet Battle 1, and now I'm imagining Jafferson high af trying to beat the shit out of himself, while Lafayette is just rolling on the floor from laughter.
I can only assume "CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME" came from the Hamilton actor having legitimate problems with his father IRL there is no other explanation for how purely and inconsolably furious he sounded
Illegal Hamilton doesn't even feel real, this feels like a morphed version of Hamilton that my brain would create in a fever dream, only for me to wake up and immediately forget 90% of it.
The reason Eliza and Maria are played by the same actress is because she's married to the actor that plays Hamilton in real life (they're young, but not minors). According to a girl on TikTok that knows them the church is super strict about dating, to the point where they don't allow handholding in a romantic sense before marriage. That's why they had her play the two women Hamilton is romantic with.
It's really fucking funny to me how far away Washington sounds in Eliza's final song. It sounds shes singing in her room and he's hiding in her closet or something
Well didn't his mic break down earlier? I think he genuinely is just shout-singing that into the void since he has no working mic anymore by that point 😅
@@sleepysera I guess so, but you'd think such an important character they could have swapped his for one of the background performers mics, since it was the end and they wouldn't be needing it again-
@tomaandkile It's not that simple. The mic would need to be re-mixed for his voice. If the batteries died, that is a quick fix. But anything else is a little more complicated.
38:13 The fact that the song after this has Hamilton taking his kids to church and saying "And I pray, I never used to do that before." Which can be read as him finding God through the tragedy and just completely removing all subtlety and agency from Hamilton's character and just having a priest convert him ham-fistedly is very ironic and funny.
that poor kid playing Burr probably WAS fighting back the tears. I can only imagine the horrendous anxiety of having to perform in front of a huge audience with little preparation AND without the vocal skills to do your own numbers! I hope he's ok...
If he's anything at all like I was growing up in this kind of church, he's severely traumatized by stuff that doesn't have anything to do with stage fright or vocal skills. When I was roped into a similarly disgraceful production as a kid, my abusers were in the audience.
Somewhere I read that the actors playing Eliza and Hamilton are actually a couple off stage, which could explain why she was also recast as Maria. Can't have romantic interactions with actors that aren't romantic with each other already :x
That " Call me son one more time" was that actor working some shit out live on stage. The deep breath to compose himself, hunching himself over slightly to try and avoid a breakdown, the unbridled and legitimate rage in his voice; I dunno what his dad did to him but i hope he's come to the realization that he needs help.
to be fair it could be not just to his father but to the superiors(?) in church, since hes talking to the person playing washington who is clearly a lot older than all of them and possibly who made them do this in the first place
They DEFINITELY are because there’s no way anybody with an actual, true passion for theater would walk onto stage with gum in their mouth. That part especially offended me, right along with forgetting his lines.
I dont even blame these kids. You can't encompass a character when you aren't portraying the story properly. And this is a HARD show to do, directors should've recognized that its not a show they were capable of doing.
The point isnt to make it a great performance. The point is to have fun and give entertainment to the audience. This guy is taking church plays too seriously. Its a cover. Relax. its all kids just doing a church play after all. Churches dont have a full time actors group after all.
@MattH123 maybe they shouldn't do a two hour copy written play then ? They created a two story set, had multiple costumes, lav mics and lighting. This was a full production. There's a reason why yhey got sued. There are plenty of shows they could have done legally.
@@waltermh111 It wasn't their art to alter. They didn't ask permission and changed fundamental aspects of the show. Nobody's "taking it too seriously" we're just annoyed that the adults in the situation defaced someone else's art.
“Cold in my professions, warm i’m my friendships, I wish, my Dear, Laurens that it might be in my power, by actions rather than words to convince you that I love you.” -Alexander Hamilton to John Laurens.
@@just_non-stop My 12 yo self which i can only describe as a demonic entity resurfaced just to recite this passage from memory holy shit i was obsessed with it
I personally think that with a bit of enthusiasm, Aaron Burr could have almost saved the show. Also- about the harem joke not being cut, as well as Burr mentioning how he keeps Theodosia's bed "warm," I find it funny to think they didn't know what it meant, so they just kept it in
the way my jaw dropped when the pastor listed "homosexuality" as something God can help you with, and put it on the same level as drugs, alcoholism, and marital issues😭😭 i was NOT expecting that
Pastor: "You struggle with homosexuality-" Hamilton: A bi man and the letters he wrote to John Lorence were very romantic including where he said “Cold in my profession, warm in my friendship, how do I convince you, dear Laurens, that I love you” (edit because I have done more research:> )
Honestly, I think Burr-kid's lack of enthusiasm is actually terror. As a baby drama kid, a lot of my friends who were having their first roles had similar stage presence-- wasn't that they didn't care, they were just *literally* shaking. I feel bad for all of these children. I don't think any of them could have known that their church was being extremely underhanded by putting on this show, and this is in no way their fault. I hope these kids are okay.
This unironically is giving me a better insight on what makes Hamilton such a great musical. In seeing what they did wrong it’s way easier to see what OG Hamilton did right. It’s a great analysis
honestly same! i’ve spent many years in post-hamilton burnout/cynicism as a theatre kid that was all over it in 2016/17, and this video actually got me feeling nostalgic and wanting to watch the original again. considering how memed the og (and minecraft versions of the) songs are amongst my friends, that’s impressive for sure
@@Sunny_dayz. lol nope! it was mostly just jokes with my other theatre kid friends from high school that were also wrapped up in the initial hamilton craze. though even at the best of times, i’ll admit that i do still have some complicated feelings with lin manuel miranda’s singing…
@@HunterSlingbaum that’s completely valid I love/hate his singing but I can never imagine a better person for the role. I’m glad he’s gotten better with time cuz I can’t take Hamilton vocals again lmao.
@@HunterSlingbaum same! I actually stopped midway through the video to re watch the original because I hadn’t seen/listened to it in years. I’ve spent years in Hamilton burnout and it was nice to be reminded why I used to love it
the burr kid definitely has potential and i feel so bad because its clear to me that whats holding him back here is his fear and anxiety but i cant even blame him for that because i know how it feels. hope that kids doing well and if he continues to do musicals that it goes further for him.
Hamilton just needs to talk less smile less in this bootleg. Oh and burr could acc get on actual Hamilton with vocal work- he tried to fix everyone else’s screw ups and actually tried lmao
Don't worry, it's God's plan. He took your kid from you because it's either entirely your fault or to test your faith (it's your character development so you can achieve true happiness later🤫) Edit: if it was not obvious enough, this is a satiric comment based on the logic of the illegal Hamilton play. This is not serious
King George not only forgot his lines in the first song, but also sung it with the wrong lyrics. He sings oceans rise empires fall it’s much harder when it’s all your call, but that’s from the second song.
Life must be easier for these brainwashed people. I mean imagine instead of having to take accountability and responsibility for your bad actions that you can automatically say some dude that doesn't really exist in the sky forgives you and claims you no longer need to process your horrible choices.
THIS. and what makes this worse is that when they got notification from LMM’s lawyers who were like “you’re walking on thin ice, bud but you can keep going so long as you don’t record it and publish it anywhere” they twisted it into “They have given us blessing to continue our show guys!!!” So not only did they steal they lied through their damn teeth. Multiple times!!!!
This stood out to me. The point of the line “I take the children to church on Sunday, the sign of the cross at the door. And I pray. That never used to happen before,” is to show Alexander’s desperation for any kind of forgiveness, he’s trying whatever method he can to stop his own guilt. He wants someone to forgive him. It’s not about whether or not he has accepted Jesus, it’s just showing his attempt to connect with someone or something.
Even if we interpret this line as a literal church conversion of Hamilton, it would be MUCH better than this "Hamilton". It can be led as a man who lived without a god, who did a lot of bad things, converted in the last years of his life. It's a very nice interpretation. That one that doesn't go against the whole musical and the values behind it...
Honestly I’m surprised they did so bad at altering the musical to be about Jesus. Like damn. It could have been geared towards showing how hubris and pride was his downfall so he came to God (which he DOES IN THE MUSICAL) and stuff. Like it was all there. Aaron Burr even says how prideful Alexander is and how “it goeth before the fall”. Phillip dies because him and his father are too prideful to let disrespect on their name go. It was ALREADY THERE for them! They could have done so much better even if it’s still an illegal and Christian version! But they didn’t!
Ten years out of high school and I still have nightmares of forgetting lines from musicals I never even performed in BUT TO SEE THE AUDACITY OF THAT MAN CHEWING GUM--
What's ironic is that by cutting hurricane they cut growth and change. If they kept it would have been more salvation like, When he changes during quiet uptown/ the priest scene, it would be in contrast to hurricane to show change Rant over
Church: Hamilton’s son died because he didn’t put faith in Jesus and he was cheating on his wife Meanwhile Eliza: Puts faith in Jesus and has her husband cheat on her and then both her husband and son die.
but consider this: she is a woman, so in the eyes of the church she might as well be a paper weight. As my crazy biblethumping grandmother once said, without a hint of irony, “only one woman matters in the eyes of the church, the rest are all sinners”
I don’t know why but I find the lyric change to ‘sitting there useless, my shoe fits!!’ absolutely hilarious. congratulations Hamilton, you know how to pick out shoes in your size, you deserve to win the Cabinet Battle, no further questions asked.
@@izurukamukura6653 what a mood. I also at all times feel the need to tell everyone about my awesome, well fitting shoes, proving to my peers my superior taste in outdoor wear and my amazing size assessment skills while simultaneously showing off my well sculpted feet. wins every argument without fail, would recommend.
@@moreblack To be fair, you're told that you suck, you're a "dumb worthless sinner" unless you give your entire life and everything you care about over to a god, who doesn't show himself, gives no proof that they exist or did exist and tells you that if you don't believe, you're going to hell. You will never be good enough, even though Jesus died on the cross, you still absolutely suck, remember that worm because you're a weak sinner who is nothing with out god. Oh and if you're LGBTQ+ or support it, you're in direct violation over over half a dozen pretty easy to understand excepts from a text written by past humans who were supposedly actually just puppets, because God was writing through them. Be fruitful and multiply with your sisters, your daughters and your wife, but not your son, because that would be gay (Polygamy wasn't considered bad, neither was incest, it's right there in Genesis. But being gay is referenced as absolutely sin in various passages and anyone who says wrong is just denying how anti-LGBTQ the Abrahamic religions all are), be fruitful and multiply. God knows all, sees all and knows what will happen, but you still have free will, so it's still your fault. Even if you do everything right you might still end up in hell because you didn't believe enough and everyone you like and love that isn't Christian like you is doomed. Of course they're angry. That entire mindset is a nervous break down with psychosis waiting to happen. Being told and made to feel like you're worthless with out an invisible being to tell you that you have worth. let alone all the other confusing, contradictory and generally just nasty things the bible says and has stories about. Like, it's not a pleasant or heart warming read in the slightest.
I haven't gotten far yet but omg Angelica and Peggy *immediately* look not just disinterested in the performance but like they are actively resentful about having to even be here
It feels like someone pulled out a gun during rehearsals and told all the actors that if they put a single harmony in during the real performance, they’d be sniped on sight. But Hamilton is such a harmony-heavy show that occasionally they’ll slip one in, do a mental ‘OH SHIT’ and pull back because they’re afraid that the guy is cocking his gun.
The church my parents would force me to go to did something similar with Toy Story. At one point Jessie was freaking out about her fear of abandonment, so Woody was like "Don't worry, Jesus will never abandon you" and her issues were resolved instantly. what.
"You have horrible abandonment issues cause everyone who as ever loved has left me well jesus will never leave you" yeah an invisible being just floating there above me that'll help
@@SeptemberStranger28 a Canadian church did a bunch of plays combining the Easter story and popular media. Jenny Nicholson made a video on it and it’s amazing Edit: I know one of the exact ones they did was Toy Story. Also the Avengers, Pirates of the Caribbean, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future…
guys i'm gonna be real right now, that line where hamilton goes "turn around, it's over, or i will leave your mouth toothless" actually had me laughing so hard that for a split second i thought it was genius.
Not only does King George not have to dance or perform outside of his three songs, but all three songs are the exact same music and melody, just different lyrics. All he had to do is remember his lines.
Jonathon Groff was spectacular with his funny face expressions and the way he delivered it. Then there is that guy who looks 30 and just got thrown on stage.
my friend was going to Hamiltons grave, i asked him "is it disrespectful, to Take a picture of Hamiltons grave and post it online?" he said "You took a picture with a grave who's owner is in a casket. Would you like to take it out and ask it? Can I snap a pic of your corpse in bed? Uhh, do whatever you want, I'm super dead!"
when Alexander first introduced himself people cheered like in the real show, but as people started to realize that this play was bad they stop making noise all together
I feel like the reason they keep the harem joke is because it has always been a theme to villanize women, to show them as overly sexualized/sexually deviant/more prone to sin
I felt so bad for the actress who played Eliza during Burn. It sounded like she was not only off on almost every note, but like she was straining to get there at all. The tension I imagined in her throat made my throat start hurting second-hand.
Yeah, and Burn only hits a D5. I have a low voice for an AFAB person and even I can reach that, especially with a good warm up. She sounds like she could be a good singer but badly needs lessons.
These poor singers sound like actors on comedy who are singing off-key as a joke. Bravo for their bravery of attempting this … it’s not easy to sing or act in front of people. Where was the choir director?
@@dalailarose1596 probably just that eliza's actress had been singing all night, i wouldn't be surprised if she needed a break. obviously eliza doesn't have as many scenes as other characters, but she still has quite a bit, and it doesn't help that they're kinda big in a lot of cases. obviously i know nothing about these kids, but just judging from the performance it feels like this is their first musical. they might not have a lot of training when it comes to singing, and therefore by the end are just straining to finish it out, eliza's actress included.
@@ashtonisvibing that makes sense, singing for hours on end is tiring and often requires some training. It's another reason why making her be Maria was dumb. That song probably helps act as a break for Eliza for both a rest and a costume change.
43:05 she needed Jesus's strength to steady her voice and relax her soft pallet, instead Jesus closed the door to heaven and put a pillow in the gap to block out her prayer.
Yes, this totally green kid didn't fully own burr as a character. But he can SING the role which is pretty impressive on it own. I fully agree, the kid wasn't bad, he's actually pretty good but the people who ran the show (all the adults) didn't help him in any way.
His voice is pretty enjoyable. With some singing lessons and finding an actual youth acting studio, he could actually become a really good performer on stage. It’s obvious the directors didn’t give him any direction or help him fix things. With better directions and more time spent on working with him, he could’ve owned this role.
I agree. I think the kid who plays Bur looks like he could be the (IRL) son of the guy who plays King George. Imo, the Bur kid should’ve played Hamilton because he did have some emotional gut behind his acting and the Washington guy should’ve played King George cause that guy was extra and it would’ve spiced up the acting of KG as being extra.
Plus you can't really expect a bunch of adverage teenagers going through puberty with no training to perform on the same level as a Broadway company. that's like telling a middle schooler to run a race against a Olympic runner.
@@obeliilebo3949 George and Washington are adults. Tone death adults, who clearly have never had any vocal training or anything. The rest of the cast are children.
@@BlazeDupree1525 the one who plays Eliza and the one who plays Alexander are married. So they might look young, and besides, they probably weren’t forced to do this
They really said at the end “Hamilton cheated on his wife so God killed his son, revealed the affair, and killed Hamilton”. What a lesson from a benevolent god
It's honestly a miss interpretation of the text. They read the Bible and put 2 instances of God doing 1 of those things (twice) and decided "Yep he just does that to be petty"
All imma say about the church adding those lines is they don’t represent all Christians they were trying to send a message about why you should follow God but they went about it the wrong way yak what I mean
Also are we gonna talk about how Eliza accepted Jesus and had faith in god and yet what she gets in return is her husband cheating on her and then her child and her husband dying
I think I figured out why they cut out "The Story of Tonight": One of the lines from this song is "Raise a glass to freedom". In the previous track, "My Shot", Hamilton says "I'm only 19, but my mind is older". Not only does this mean that Hamilton is consuming alcohol, but he would have also been underage. Yes, the legal drinking age was different back in the day, but this is Christian Hamilton, and alcohol of any sort is a big no-no for them (possibly, idk I'm Jewish).
This could be true, however in Aaron Burr Sir, all four of them are drinking in a bar, and they didn't cut the line "two pints of Sam Adams, but I'm working on three." But, you're probably right given how little they care about consistency with their censorship! Good thinkin!!
Throwing myself under the bus as a Christian. I don't know what religion specifically this group is, but most Christians are definitely okay with alcohol. As a Catholic Christian, we are served wine in church to symbolise the blood of Christ. So they, uh, that's no excuse for them.
@@nicopavvi8494 in all churches I’ve gone to it’s taught against as a BIG NONO I also personally it’s a Nono because I saw it destroy my family for several years I praise Jesus daily that that family member got help
It's like when you choose the same character in a fighting game and they have a different color. I just imagined that but with two Thomas Jeffersons fighting in France!
yeah, absolutely. that was almost definitely aimed at them, because before hamilton became so big he was the most forgotten of the founding fathers. why would he be praised if people didn’t even remember he existed?
@@PurgatoryProductions1I really don't consider Hamilton forgotten, he is probably on the same tier as Adams, but hilariously he is the punching bag of mosts guys
Not to mention, Lin and the people who helped him write the story made it absolutely clear that Hamilton isn't a perfect person. Even Javier Muñoz, Lin's alternate, praised the way Hamilton because Alex is such a flawed individual.
Ok do not do this. Do not go up to someone who is grieving a loved one and tell them (directly or indirectly) that they are responsible for that loved one's death because they did not sufficiently believe in your religion. That is vile and is grounds for them punching you in the face. The fact that these people think that doing this will get them converts instead is baffling to me. Of course that is just one of the many problems with this play.
There is absolutely nothing Biblical about "[Loved One] died because you aren't a Christian". I'm a born-again Christian; I think I'd know if there was. Also, just for reference, it's a DIRECT CONTRADICTION of what Jesus clearly said to say a child is born with a deformity, disability, developmental or intellectual delay, is stillborn, and/or [problem] because of a parent's sin or (perceived) lack of Christian faith, should you ever hear anyone spewing that bullshit. Might just be me, but I figure when Jesus says something like, "That man was not born blind because of his parents' sin", that's a real clear indication whatever's going on with a kid when they're born, it has nothing to do with what their parents may (not) have done. I would not have sympathy for anyone who told a grieving parent, "Your child died because you aren't a Christian" and was punched in response. Assholes who spew that kind of vileness, in my mind, aren't worth the assault and battery charges punching them could bring, so walking away before you serve up a knuckle sandwich would be my advice, but I'd totally understand if a grieving parent lashed out in anger.
I've seen this happen, people get you at a really emotionally raw and vulnerable time and convince themselves they are helping you. I do think it does work sometimes because in grief some people are looking for any piece of driftwood in a storm and these people tell them they can fix it. To some extent there is help because listening and community is one thing a church is pretty good at. It's just vile to not give community without the message of self blame or pushing your product/religion. If churches were just there for people and didn't try to push but people ended up joining because of the community that supported them that would be so much better. The christian belief that one cannot be whole or will be damned for eternity without Jesus is the most manipulative part of that faith. Especially when everyone one gets to decide what the "correct" relationship with Jesus is. It justifies all sorts of vile behavior.
@@Ugly_German_Truthsno. Most Christians aren't like that. I honestly struggle to believe those kinds of "Christians" actually have faith of any kind, and aren't just using a religion that they constantly go against as an excuse for being a dick
I heard that Eliza is the priests daughter and is married (or at east engaged) to Hamilton so that’s why she plays also plays Mariah lol. No handholding outside of marriage
@@veetoristh I grew up with a lot of very religious christian and a lot of them get married young and have kids young. Seriously, I saw two 17 years old get married and now they're 22 and they have 5 kids.
21:37 Fun fact, this style of musical number where everyone is singing individual lines over each other is a polyphony, and it's sometimes referred to as "the cacophony." Despite the nickname, this style often works really well because everyone is harmonizing and on the same general note progression. In this production, though, it seems like they've taken the word "cacophony" to heart and made the artistic decision to make the final minute of the song sound as dissonant and off-key as possible.
We did something similar for my choir performance when we did “We don’t talk about Bruno” and I had the Dolores solos, and at the end when everyone is singing together it sounded great in practice with all the solos and the rest of the choir singing together (but then for the actual performance half the solo kids went out including mine .😅) But we worked for WEEKS on it to make it sound right and you can really tell just how much the directors didn’t care. Sorry if this is long, just my experience on how HARD this style is.
god this musical is such a trainwreck, not only do the harmonies make me want to die inside, but they got rid of all of the depth and metaphors in hamilton to replace them with jesus propaganda ?? why choose this musical if you're gonna tear it apart /: this was such a good video, you deserve more subs, especially after sitting through this lmao
Because it's big popular musical and big popular musical means that all the kids are gonna be going to it and thus they'll be tricked into learning about Jesus of course :D (I bet all the people who went to the musical live quietly said "thanks, I hate it" at the very first line)
@@thewanderingmistnull2451 they are (to a degree) things that actually happened set to music, but there are also things to be considered about the music being played and when the characters talk and share things about themselves with that music, like every time Alexander goes into an "I remember death" monologue or when he sings Hurricane. There is a lot more to Hamilton's music than "historical events given a soundtrack", and it goes very deep. The musical after all has a lot to say about legacy and what a person leaves behind in the world after death. I highly recommend looking at Howard Ho's videos on Hamilton songs, where he breaks them down and explains the hidden meanings and intentions behind every lyrical and musical choice.
my favourite part is how washington is muted in the last song so when you hear eliza talk about her achievements and stuff and about the washington monument it really feels like the man is fighting for his life trying to take credit for what she did
Lol, logically know his battery pack probably died or the mic disconnected if he sat down, but sound person in me would absolutely love it if the mixer had just had enough of GW and hit the mute button.
The funniest part about the “ambassador of France” thing is that it would’ve been a really easy fix too. “Throwing hands AS the ambassador of France” or even “kicking butt as the ambassador to France” doesn’t even sound that bad compared to a lot of the other censors. They just had to change that ONE word.
You just pointed out how ridiculous the church's problem with certain words is to begin with. Like, why would the word "butt" be acceptable but the word "ass" sends them into a fit of the vapours? It's all so random and pointless.
Dear Theodosia is my favorite song in all of Hamilton because of the themes and Leslie Odom Jr's vocals and I was devastated when it wasn't there. But I'm also thankful that they didn't let them butcher it.
I joined chorus but I forgot like 6 lines of the song. The entire group. We decided as a joke we would change our identities and move to Mexico or Sweden idk but now I have a small amount of stage fright and I like shiver but you can see a bit of it and I hate it. I mean I’ve always had it but the thought of walking up on a stage and just talking it mortifies me
@@Goldenroses930 “Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you.” This is from the national archives, namely “Alexander Hamilton to lieutenant colonel John Laurens, [April 1779] if you want to read the whole thing, i picked one sentence that proved my point but there are many others as well
As a Christian I am officially terrified that they’ve ruined one of my favorite musicals- I don’t even think ruined is the best word choice for this disaster. Edit: I didn't think this would start a comment war LMAO
As a Christian I’ve sadly accepted that we have two, count ‘em- 2, good musicals about our faith and that is Prince of Egypt from Dreamworks and Jesus Christ Superstar
As another Religious person, I too also was mortified when I knew this. Everything gave me second hand embarrassment from the singing, to the change in messages. Like I get it, they make plays. It can be fun. But like, if you’re already going to change a lot until the storyline is no longer the same, then you might as well not pick Hamilton! It’s based off real history, and it’s why you don’t want to change things. I’m sure there are other things to make plays off of. I just don’t get why they chose Hamilton 😅
As someone who has been doing microphones in theater for 7 years, listening to Angelica’s microphone be so unbelievably hot throughout the entire musical made me physically cringe.
RIGHT?? I showed this to a sound person I work with (I’m on lights) and I could see the look of pain on their face. Whoever set the gain on that mic needs to visit their doctor to get their hearing checked.
Did they really have a priest go up to a man and tell him "hey have you ever considered that your child's death is your fault?" and thought that was a touching momeng
To that church, it probably is a normal thing to say to someone whose relative recently died. It's a disgusting thing to do, but pastor privilege, i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As someone who has experienced this behavior due to my family being religious, it's an awful feeling to hear someone tell an ACTUAL grieving person that maybe it's their own fault. I never spoke to my uncle after what he did
another note is that at the very, very, VERY end of the original musical, eliza gives out a bloodcurdling gasp and the stage goes completely dark after talking about who will “tell her story.” this actually means that eliza saw the audience, and its a crazy forth wall break because it means that we, the audience, are going to tell HER story. i hate that that entire number was infected by christianity and crap that undermines the entire story of hamilton. (and, if they did leave the gasp in, then it would’ve been nightmare fuel)
Lin said it doesnt have any meaning that anyone except for Eliza herself knows, not even her actress(es? idk if there are multiple Eliza actresses) knows the correct answer.
The Washington actor is the only one in this entire production who is a theater nerd and actually watched the original production. The reason the Arron Burr actor is scared of him is because he seems like the Rachel berry of the production. 😂
At first I thought it was just really funny, and kind of hoped that everyone who owns the copyrights to Hamilton (Lin-manual Miranda and Broadway) would just turn a blind eye, but as soon as I heard the word “homosexuality” come out of the pastors mouth, I wanted everything to go up in flames lol Sending all the money to a pro lgbtq charity is so brilliant and satisfying
Specially since Hamilton was possibly bisexual (LMM thinks of it as part of the character). Using a queer person's story to spout anti-queer propaganda is fucking disgusting.
Hey, not rlly part of the musical threatre community. Cld I ask under what scenarios it's illegal to perform musicals? Is it illegal even if it's non-profit or a school production or something? I'm curious because my school has done things like hairspray, frankenstein, a mid summer night's dream, etc. Do they have to buy the rights for that?
@@brownie3454they use that to show why Burr and them didn’t expose him. “We both know what we know” Hamilton goes out of his way to expose himself so it doesn’t “stain his legacy” or whatever and admit what he’s done
While Bur did commit adultery with Theodosia, they were married after her husband was killed in South Carolina. Their daughter Theodosia was conceived after their marriage. Hamilton's son Phillip was already a year old, having been born in 1782, while Theodosia was born in 1783. Interestingly enough, she also died young, being drowned at sea when she was just 29.
@@brownie3454 Burr knew that Hamilton knew he was seeing a married man's wife. He was the one who told him in Hamilton's wedding scene. By the time Hamilton was confronted and wrote the Reynolds Pamphlet the war had already been over for a decade, Burr married Theodosia after the death of her husband, and their daughter was born a year later. It was all considered water under the bridge by then.
I feel really bad for Eliza/Maria Reynolds and Burr in Scamilton. They could totally be good actors and singers, but they need more practice and more attention from directors. I think it's pretty clear that they only paid attention to Hamilton for this. Those kids really don't deserve that and I hope they'll do much better in the future!
38:33 So Im orthodox, but I grew up Baptist. My parents split and in the years prior I was very atheist. But orthodoxy made me restore a little faith. Now... THE ACCURACY AND TRAUMA THIS SCENE HAS IS CHILLING I HAVE HEARD THIS EXACT TONE ALL THE TIME IM SCARED-
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this play? completely missed the opportunity to have jefferson come on stage and announce 'i met god. she's black'
My first pin, kudos
wouldn't have saved the show, but it'd at least give me a laugh
I... I hate you for this
It would only count if he wore *it*
thank you i really wish i could unread this
My biggest question is why they choose Hamilton? A show about love triangles, cheating, wars and guns
Shoulda gone with La Cage Aux Folles
exactly. they must've been like "let's illegally make a show with anti gay and Christian messaging, but let's make it about a gay man who cheated on his wife"
yes, Hamilton was bisexual ♥💜💙
My best guess is they're not smart
its cause of the popularity and how much Hamilton is recognized in broadway and beyond
Christians are obsessed with the most profane of things and then "purifying" them
They missed a real opportunity to get Mary on stage for "The Womb Where It Happens".
I hate you.
You're hired.
Omg that's perfect 😭 💅
Weird AL, where u at??
“i wanna be in the womb where it happens” what..
Hahahahaha
If anything, this convinced me that the real star of Hamilton is the rotating stage.
Nah the real star is the skill of the actors ON the spinning stage. That is disorienting as hell
@DeathnoteBB nah the real star is the ability to understand jokes
@@legojarjarbinks2564 I got the joke, I just wanted to spread awareness of how hard it is to walk on a spinning stage, damn
@@DeathnoteBB yes but the original comment itself was a joke, so by adding your own actual opinion makes it seem like you just don’t understand the joke
Yeah this show really makes you miss the rotating stage and golden lights
The "throwing hands at the ambassador of France" made me lose it. Combine it with Hamilton's "while you were off, getting high with the French" in Cabinet Battle 1, and now I'm imagining Jafferson high af trying to beat the shit out of himself, while Lafayette is just rolling on the floor from laughter.
Jefferson: **Slamming his head against the guillotine, bleeding profusely**
Lafayette: **Laughing his ass off**
Wait but Lafayette is Jefferson 👀👀👀
Is he laughing while beating himself up???? 👀👀👀👀👀 it just makes it funnier
LMAOOOOO
@@Silvergrove41 this is brilliant
smash bros when i pick two CPUs with the same character:
I can only assume "CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME" came from the Hamilton actor having legitimate problems with his father IRL there is no other explanation for how purely and inconsolably furious he sounded
LMAOO fr
"Maverick" PFP spotted
And/or rage at the pastor doing that, or the whole idea of being one of God's children..... The possibilities are endless 😂
i bet hes gay and the pastor hates him for it and also calls him son while trying to convert him
I can confirm, everyone I know who has daddy issues does that, no one who doesn't have daddy issues has the power to "CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME."
Illegal Hamilton doesn't even feel real, this feels like a morphed version of Hamilton that my brain would create in a fever dream, only for me to wake up and immediately forget 90% of it.
It's that kind of nightmare you have that isn't scary just because it's too weird for that to be the case.
Illegal Heathers 2: electric Boogaloo.
Wait….it’s not a fever dream???
@@Punzil0-0 im extremely high so idk if this video was real or a fever dream
#DontDoDrgs #StayInSchool
@@absoluteterror4045 It wasn't. It's real.
The reason Eliza and Maria are played by the same actress is because she's married to the actor that plays Hamilton in real life (they're young, but not minors). According to a girl on TikTok that knows them the church is super strict about dating, to the point where they don't allow handholding in a romantic sense before marriage. That's why they had her play the two women Hamilton is romantic with.
W H A T 😭I swear they look like teens
omg that’s wild but checks out
@@novemberninth4392 You think they waited long to get married? They’re definitely the YOUNGEST age they can be to be married
Religion was a mistake. 🤦♂
Oh that's. That's feel bad
They cut Ten Duel Commandments. This is officially war. I am going to listen to real Hamilton now because I need to clean my brain
It’s time to name a time and place
one does not simply cut the room where it happens, probably the most significant Hamilton song
@@lovelynight1well, i guess they weren't in *the room where it happens*
@@lovelynight1at least they couldn’t ruin it!
me with hurricane, i was absolutely mortified
I absolutely died when they changed the line “kicking ass as the ambassador of France” to “throwing hands at the ambassador of France” 😭💀
i wonder who’s gonna win
@@wren_. daveed diggs
I thought it was “throwing HATS at the ambassador of France”!
Thomas Jefferson vs * checks notes * Jomson Thefferas
@@juanignaciolopeztellechea9401 NAWWWWW THIS IS KILLING MEEEEE
It's really fucking funny to me how far away Washington sounds in Eliza's final song. It sounds shes singing in her room and he's hiding in her closet or something
Well didn't his mic break down earlier? I think he genuinely is just shout-singing that into the void since he has no working mic anymore by that point 😅
@@sleepysera I guess so, but you'd think such an important character they could have swapped his for one of the background performers mics, since it was the end and they wouldn't be needing it again-
Bruh it sounded like someone was trying really hard to keep him off the stage and he just desperately managed to yell his last line towards it 💀
@tomaandkile It's not that simple. The mic would need to be re-mixed for his voice. If the batteries died, that is a quick fix. But anything else is a little more complicated.
@@10Raccoon ohhhh alright. That makes sense then. I've never worked with anything more complex than a Kareoke mic so I wasn't aware
Washington's mic not working in the end and him basically yelling "SHE TELLS MY STOOOORYYYY" off screen is absolutely hilarious to me
Same
And in nonstop
He needs her to tell his story 😂 he physically can’t, his mic doesn’t work…
It's because he's in HELL for all of the slaves teeth he stole. Thou shan't forget to floss.
I saw this like, 20 mins before I watched that bit, and I remember this comment and started rolling of laughter
38:13 The fact that the song after this has Hamilton taking his kids to church and saying "And I pray, I never used to do that before." Which can be read as him finding God through the tragedy and just completely removing all subtlety and agency from Hamilton's character and just having a priest convert him ham-fistedly is very ironic and funny.
Bless your heart for putting "actual Hamilton" when showing footage from the actual show, idk how we would've been able to tell otherwise
Ikr, it’s just so amazing
i really couldn't tell the different the title really helped /sarc
Jail. No, prison, Honey. Prison.
@@pembrokelove what-?
@@ayo1845 it's a joke. She should be locked up for reading them so fatally.
that poor kid playing Burr probably WAS fighting back the tears. I can only imagine the horrendous anxiety of having to perform in front of a huge audience with little preparation AND without the vocal skills to do your own numbers! I hope he's ok...
That’s a bit exaggerated
@@ricky.t.1658 No its not. Its a completely valid statement
@@ricky.t.1658
Are you in theatre? It's stressful as is, and he was casted for a role he wasn't experienced enough for.
If he's anything at all like I was growing up in this kind of church, he's severely traumatized by stuff that doesn't have anything to do with stage fright or vocal skills. When I was roped into a similarly disgraceful production as a kid, my abusers were in the audience.
Yall this is so true. He has a voice with potential but no good teachers... i can totally understand why hes like this.
Somewhere I read that the actors playing Eliza and Hamilton are actually a couple off stage, which could explain why she was also recast as Maria. Can't have romantic interactions with actors that aren't romantic with each other already :x
Somehow… I knew……….
Wait Maria Reynolds is also Eliza-
They’re married, I believe!
@@melodytheatre2887 THEY'RE MARRIED?!?! WHAT?!
@@w1ccaphobia I have heard the same thing.
That " Call me son one more time" was that actor working some shit out live on stage.
The deep breath to compose himself, hunching himself over slightly to try and avoid a breakdown, the unbridled and legitimate rage in his voice; I dunno what his dad did to him but i hope he's come to the realization that he needs help.
to be fair it could be not just to his father but to the superiors(?) in church, since hes talking to the person playing washington who is clearly a lot older than all of them and possibly who made them do this in the first place
I mean it could be this... Or you could be reading into the life of some random kid and trying to reddit armchair psychiatrist him...
@@johnathandoe6034frl I think the kid was just trying too hard. High school actors do that
I guarantee you that king George and Washington are the pastors that wanted to do this show in the first place
Interesting take, at the very least they’re high donors to the church
Am I crazy, or is James Madison played by the same guy as King George in this version?
They're 100% the youth pastors
They DEFINITELY are because there’s no way anybody with an actual, true passion for theater would walk onto stage with gum in their mouth. That part especially offended me, right along with forgetting his lines.
@@MorningDusk7734 im 99% sure that it is the same guy. unless were both crazy
I dont even blame these kids. You can't encompass a character when you aren't portraying the story properly. And this is a HARD show to do, directors should've recognized that its not a show they were capable of doing.
The kids probably weren't even allowed to watch actual Hamilton 😂
The “director” was probably the pastor
The point isnt to make it a great performance. The point is to have fun and give entertainment to the audience.
This guy is taking church plays too seriously. Its a cover. Relax. its all kids just doing a church play after all. Churches dont have a full time actors group after all.
@MattH123 maybe they shouldn't do a two hour copy written play then ? They created a two story set, had multiple costumes, lav mics and lighting. This was a full production. There's a reason why yhey got sued. There are plenty of shows they could have done legally.
@@waltermh111 It wasn't their art to alter. They didn't ask permission and changed fundamental aspects of the show. Nobody's "taking it too seriously" we're just annoyed that the adults in the situation defaced someone else's art.
Can't wait to see them put on Heathers where JD and Veronica turn to Jesus and repent for their sins and then convert the whole school to Jesus.
I still can't believe this show happened how did they think this was a good idea
I can see that happening.
How would they do Dead Girl Walking? They just can’t cut it.
Oh god no
For Our Love Is God they'd just simply switch it around to 'Our God Is Love'
you regreted to mention how they dint censor "casse toi" in aaron burr, sir because they didnt know it meant "fuck off"
that is so fucking funny but so sad at the same time like... no one thought to research anything?? 😭
@@goodguyamr6996 I think they watched the show once and decided to copy it.
@@eviehowlett2535 without doing any research it seems 🙂↕️
when did he say that?
@@BESTPERSON-s8q Lafayette said it in his first verse in Aaron Burr, sir. The line is "tell the king casse toi"
20:57 as a person who studied history and had to read all of the federalist papers, I also want to cry whenever I talk about the amount hamilton wrote
THIS COMMENT HAD ME CRYING
LMAO 😭
YOUR PFP😭😭😭 it fits the video tbh
LMAOOOOOOO fellow historian here I AM SO SORRY but theres at least one thing you liked didnt you
HELP 😭😭😭😭
As a theater kid I genuinely felt bad when he forgot his lines until I heard the gum thing 😭
HIS teacher clearly never made him stick it on his nose when he got caught chewing it in class 🤭
That's literally one of the most important rules in theatre: *don't chew gum on stage-* 😭
He probably remembered but like he decided NO I MUST NOT SAY MY LINES I MUST CHEW GUM👹
@@mafuyume I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY PEOPLE WANT TO LIKE OS THAT NOT STRESSFUL?
@@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac real..
I don't struggle with being homosexual, I'm actually very good at it.
PFFFFFFFT
@@Personnnnnn611 not tryna brag or anythin tho- 😎
Real
You MUST teach me your ways
@@LexLuxray it's a natural talent, what can I say? ✨✨
I guess this church conveniently forgot that Hamilton wrote steamy love letters to John Laurens
“Cold in my professions, warm i’m my friendships, I wish, my Dear, Laurens that it might be in my power, by actions rather than words to convince you that I love you.” -Alexander Hamilton to John Laurens.
@@just_non-stop My 12 yo self which i can only describe as a demonic entity resurfaced just to recite this passage from memory holy shit i was obsessed with it
@@just_non-stopthat’s probably why they cut the song about said ex-boyfriend dying horribly
patiently waiting for the church's musical interpretation of hivliving
I personally think that with a bit of enthusiasm, Aaron Burr could have almost saved the show. Also- about the harem joke not being cut, as well as Burr mentioning how he keeps Theodosia's bed "warm," I find it funny to think they didn't know what it meant, so they just kept it in
That’s so on brand for this production, you might actually be right.
I mean also... there are harems in the bible....
@@justajumpingypsygirl True ig, but I'm assuming it's *those* kind of Churches, yk?
@@justajumpingypsygirl there are also abortions but they won’t talk about that
@@Morbidity100 where?
"CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!", bootleg Hamilton said calmly
“HAMILTON DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?!?!?!?!?”
@@yellobanana6456 "N-No sir!"
@@yellobanana6456 said calmly
I SHOULDNT HAVE LAUGHED AS HARD AS I DID
@@yellobanana6456 washington said calmly
"Eliza, God is not who I need right now, I'm fine on my own" is gonna be my senior quote
Do it.
Lol I wish I could use that too
I think I would put to school and then put a time stamp on burn that goes “ I hope that you BUUUUUURRRRNNN”
Yess
I wish I could use that quote. The only problem is I am going to be going to a Catholic high school.
the way my jaw dropped when the pastor listed "homosexuality" as something God can help you with, and put it on the same level as drugs, alcoholism, and marital issues😭😭 i was NOT expecting that
NO I SWEAR MY JAW FELL TO THE FLOOR AND I FELT FURY (I'm not even gay but I'm aroace) 😭
@@TamWam_yo same also aperantly Hamilton was actually bi
@@TamWam_ im Also Aroace
🧡💛🤍🩵💙
Yeah, he just wacks you with the gates of heaven like a steel chair and boom, you are no longer gay.
@@Mr._Blåhaj5 "I wish, my dear Laurens, that it might be in my power, by action, rather than words, to convince you that I love you."
Pastor: "You struggle with homosexuality-"
Hamilton: A bi man and the letters he wrote to John Lorence were very romantic including where he said “Cold in my profession, warm in my friendship, how do I convince you, dear Laurens, that I love you” (edit because I have done more research:> )
he relished in it.
“I do not ‘struggle’ with homosexuality, Im actually very good at it”
Yeah, thank John Church Hamilton
where could one go about reading that, hypothetically, for research (school paper) purposes?
@@Wil_does_stuff founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-02-02-0100 this is one of my favs especially the first paragraph.
Honestly, I think Burr-kid's lack of enthusiasm is actually terror. As a baby drama kid, a lot of my friends who were having their first roles had similar stage presence-- wasn't that they didn't care, they were just *literally* shaking.
I feel bad for all of these children. I don't think any of them could have known that their church was being extremely underhanded by putting on this show, and this is in no way their fault. I hope these kids are okay.
Yes which is why I'm glad this commenter isn't being hard on them and I wouldn't want to watch someone who was
Yes, you could here the tremble in his voice
Not gonna like Arron burr kid also kinda looks gay being a person in the lgbtq+ community whose father is a pastor knows when there’s a closeted gay
man i feel so bad now :(
My Guess is King George is the director standing in as a last minute replacement.
This unironically is giving me a better insight on what makes Hamilton such a great musical. In seeing what they did wrong it’s way easier to see what OG Hamilton did right. It’s a great analysis
honestly same! i’ve spent many years in post-hamilton burnout/cynicism as a theatre kid that was all over it in 2016/17, and this video actually got me feeling nostalgic and wanting to watch the original again. considering how memed the og (and minecraft versions of the) songs are amongst my friends, that’s impressive for sure
@@HunterSlingbaum oh god as long as you weren’t spreading the cynicism all over the internet 😭
@@Sunny_dayz. lol nope! it was mostly just jokes with my other theatre kid friends from high school that were also wrapped up in the initial hamilton craze. though even at the best of times, i’ll admit that i do still have some complicated feelings with lin manuel miranda’s singing…
@@HunterSlingbaum that’s completely valid I love/hate his singing but I can never imagine a better person for the role. I’m glad he’s gotten better with time cuz I can’t take Hamilton vocals again lmao.
@@HunterSlingbaum same! I actually stopped midway through the video to re watch the original because I hadn’t seen/listened to it in years. I’ve spent years in Hamilton burnout and it was nice to be reminded why I used to love it
When he said “CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME!!” He released all the anger he had when they said “harum”
“Sir, do you want me to run the treasury or state department?”
“ᵀʳᵉᵃˢᵘʳʸ”
just wanted to say that this reply section is beautiful
*let’s go*
*Alexander.*
*I HAVE TO LEAVE*
*ALEXANDER.*
*Look around, look around at how lucky we are to be alive right now*
the burr kid definitely has potential and i feel so bad because its clear to me that whats holding him back here is his fear and anxiety but i cant even blame him for that because i know how it feels.
hope that kids doing well and if he continues to do musicals that it goes further for him.
Hamilton just needs to talk less smile less in this bootleg. Oh and burr could acc get on actual Hamilton with vocal work- he tried to fix everyone else’s screw ups and actually tried lmao
@Caitlyn Carvalho I mean yeah- they wouldn’t be getting in legal trouble 😂 but if they could make a good musical then they should
@Caitlyn Carvalho Uh- you’re asking the wrong person- I’m an atheist- but I don’t really know what I’d do-
But I mean it could give people a sense of hope? I don’t know..
@Caitlyn Carvalho I don’t know how to answer this- it sounds really dumb, i just don’t!
As someone who has lost a child, the scene with the priest talking about how it's his fault his child died is sick.
I’m so sorry
my dearest condolences, honestly
Don't worry, it's God's plan.
He took your kid from you because it's either entirely your fault or to test your faith (it's your character development so you can achieve true happiness later🤫)
Edit: if it was not obvious enough, this is a satiric comment based on the logic of the illegal Hamilton play. This is not serious
@@X-SPONGED WHAT.
@@X-SPONGED july 8th, 2027
King George not only forgot his lines in the first song, but also sung it with the wrong lyrics. He sings oceans rise empires fall it’s much harder when it’s all your call, but that’s from the second song.
Bible: "Thou shall not steal."
Them: *Proceeds to recreate the show illegally*
"B-but we have god on our side"
@@charcoaltortoise Hamilton's legal team: B-but we dont care
Life must be easier for these brainwashed people. I mean imagine instead of having to take accountability and responsibility for your bad actions that you can automatically say some dude that doesn't really exist in the sky forgives you and claims you no longer need to process your horrible choices.
THIS. and what makes this worse is that when they got notification from LMM’s lawyers who were like “you’re walking on thin ice, bud but you can keep going so long as you don’t record it and publish it anywhere” they twisted it into “They have given us blessing to continue our show guys!!!”
So not only did they steal they lied through their damn teeth. Multiple times!!!!
@@charcoaltortoise "it must be nice, it must be nice..."
This stood out to me. The point of the line “I take the children to church on Sunday, the sign of the cross at the door. And I pray. That never used to happen before,” is to show Alexander’s desperation for any kind of forgiveness, he’s trying whatever method he can to stop his own guilt. He wants someone to forgive him. It’s not about whether or not he has accepted Jesus, it’s just showing his attempt to connect with someone or something.
Even if we interpret this line as a literal church conversion of Hamilton, it would be MUCH better than this "Hamilton". It can be led as a man who lived without a god, who did a lot of bad things, converted in the last years of his life. It's a very nice interpretation. That one that doesn't go against the whole musical and the values behind it...
In this moment Hamilton really tried religion, he tried in order to pray for his family and for the future, he is at least a bit religious
Honestly I’m surprised they did so bad at altering the musical to be about Jesus. Like damn. It could have been geared towards showing how hubris and pride was his downfall so he came to God (which he DOES IN THE MUSICAL) and stuff.
Like it was all there. Aaron Burr even says how prideful Alexander is and how “it goeth before the fall”. Phillip dies because him and his father are too prideful to let disrespect on their name go.
It was ALREADY THERE for them! They could have done so much better even if it’s still an illegal and Christian version! But they didn’t!
@@DeathnoteBB nahhh see because if they did that, then it shows that they actually put thought in it. Let’s be honest. They didn’t- 😂
As someone who has struggled with being homosexual my entire life, bootleg Hamilton truly opened my eyes. I’m more gay than ever!
I still struggle with homosexuality. No matter how hard I try, I remain straight!
@@mirandabee2323 oh
@@mirandabee2323 what truly counts is that you don't stop trying, and you don't lose hope!
I believe you can be gay🏳️🌈
Oh for me this just made me more bisexual! :D
Nothing says "gay bad" like a musical theater production.
yeah i struggle with homosexuality. in the not getting laid department
now if that ain’t a fucking mood
I seem to struggle with straightness. But in the getting and keeping a girlfriend.
Relatable fr
Damn, I love when they put homosexuality in the same vein as drugs and alcoholism 😂😂 Yeah, are you addicted to alcohol? Drugs? DICK?!
What about lesbians tho? Not very addicted to dick XP
COCAINE AND COCK??
Using this
I repent my sins of dick. I'm sorry, i was too addicted to dick, it's taken over my life!!😭😭
Ah yes I am addicted to this new drug called "men"
Ten years out of high school and I still have nightmares of forgetting lines from musicals I never even performed in BUT TO SEE THE AUDACITY OF THAT MAN CHEWING GUM--
My Theatre teacher would have my head!
bro my drama teacher would be absolutely seething
I'm in high school doing plays... That guy straight up forgetting his line on stage... I felt it in my being.
@@agamerdoesthings9317 SAME 😭 like he didn’t even try to recover, just stood there not saying anything 😧
It helps him think
Im waiting for this church to do illegal heathers and be like
"I lOvE mY dEaD sTrAiGhT SoN"
JD of course turns to Jesus who forgives him for his sins
And they absolutely didn't have sex, they just played some uno
@@just_a_butterfly then JD gets crucified
@@user-xr4nw3pt2v the J is JD stands for Jesus
@@just_a_butterfly Jesus dead =jd [btw I'm Christian don't get mad I can make this joke]
@@just_a_butterflyJD is short for Jesus Dhrist
What's ironic is that by cutting hurricane they cut growth and change. If they kept it would have been more salvation like, When he changes during quiet uptown/ the priest scene, it would be in contrast to hurricane to show change
Rant over
Church: Hamilton’s son died because he didn’t put faith in Jesus and he was cheating on his wife
Meanwhile Eliza: Puts faith in Jesus and has her husband cheat on her and then both her husband and son die.
eliza, a *Christian*, seeing this:
but consider this: she is a woman, so in the eyes of the church she might as well be a paper weight. As my crazy biblethumping grandmother once said, without a hint of irony, “only one woman matters in the eyes of the church, the rest are all sinners”
shhhh the church doesnt like it when you point out the plot holes in their religion shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It’s because the church sees women as objects to their husbands, silly!
shh, silly! obviously women don’t matter! 😊
I don’t know why but I find the lyric change to ‘sitting there useless, my shoe fits!!’ absolutely hilarious. congratulations Hamilton, you know how to pick out shoes in your size, you deserve to win the Cabinet Battle, no further questions asked.
I think that it could have been… less terrible, at least, by using “like the” instead of “my”
He was trying to make a point to them but then just realized how comfortably fitting his shoes were and needed to tell everyone immediately
@@izurukamukura6653 what a mood. I also at all times feel the need to tell everyone about my awesome, well fitting shoes, proving to my peers my superior taste in outdoor wear and my amazing size assessment skills while simultaneously showing off my well sculpted feet. wins every argument without fail, would recommend.
It's also unintentionally saying "Yes, I AM purely doing this for my own expedient self-enrichment and don't actually care about the country!"
This Cabinet Battle is sponsored by Vessi! If you want shoes that fit but aren't just sitting there useless when wet...
"unfiltered christian rage" is now my new favourite phrase
no bc SAME
LMAOOO
I know people that have been cured of Christianity, and they still have that rage sometimes.
@@dinterdos “Hamilton” said calmly
@@moreblack To be fair, you're told that you suck, you're a "dumb worthless sinner" unless you give your entire life and everything you care about over to a god, who doesn't show himself, gives no proof that they exist or did exist and tells you that if you don't believe, you're going to hell. You will never be good enough, even though Jesus died on the cross, you still absolutely suck, remember that worm because you're a weak sinner who is nothing with out god.
Oh and if you're LGBTQ+ or support it, you're in direct violation over over half a dozen pretty easy to understand excepts from a text written by past humans who were supposedly actually just puppets, because God was writing through them.
Be fruitful and multiply with your sisters, your daughters and your wife, but not your son, because that would be gay (Polygamy wasn't considered bad, neither was incest, it's right there in Genesis. But being gay is referenced as absolutely sin in various passages and anyone who says wrong is just denying how anti-LGBTQ the Abrahamic religions all are), be fruitful and multiply. God knows all, sees all and knows what will happen, but you still have free will, so it's still your fault.
Even if you do everything right you might still end up in hell because you didn't believe enough and everyone you like and love that isn't Christian like you is doomed.
Of course they're angry. That entire mindset is a nervous break down with psychosis waiting to happen. Being told and made to feel like you're worthless with out an invisible being to tell you that you have worth. let alone all the other confusing, contradictory and generally just nasty things the bible says and has stories about. Like, it's not a pleasant or heart warming read in the slightest.
I haven't gotten far yet but omg Angelica and Peggy *immediately* look not just disinterested in the performance but like they are actively resentful about having to even be here
It feels like someone pulled out a gun during rehearsals and told all the actors that if they put a single harmony in during the real performance, they’d be sniped on sight. But Hamilton is such a harmony-heavy show that occasionally they’ll slip one in, do a mental ‘OH SHIT’ and pull back because they’re afraid that the guy is cocking his gun.
So... I guess you could say that was the guy's own (my) shot?
Had to do it though. Your comment made me laugh and the play made me cringe.
The guy was not throwing away his shot when they started harmonizing
If they did the harmony it would be their *one last time* acting in Hamilton
@@imjustaguycalledsanothe guy was going to kill them anyway, so he was just *waiting for it*
So THAT’S why Burr’s actor was so scared
the way you can barely hear ˢʰᵉ ᵗᵉˡˡˢ ᵐʸ ˢᵗᵒᵒᵒʳʸʸʸʸʸ at 42:45 is way too fucking funny to me
Yeah it killed me. Its like he was in the other room and heard her sing that and was like “oh crap that’s my cue” and sang that. 😂
WAIT-
He was chilling in Bethels Kitchen
If ykyk
(But don't worry, it's still Scamilton related)
*gasp* *she TELL MY STORY*
nobody can hear him so she has to say it
I didn't think it'd be that funny but it definitely was 😂
i’ve done better performances of hamilton in my car singing all the parts than this church did lol
HA I’m sure a lot of us have…
Same
Honestly, same
Honestly same.
Honestly, same
This show made me realize how important to have MICROPHONES in the musical 😂
The church my parents would force me to go to did something similar with Toy Story. At one point Jessie was freaking out about her fear of abandonment, so Woody was like "Don't worry, Jesus will never abandon you" and her issues were resolved instantly.
what.
That sounds laughably horrible. Bwah! That's good
"You have horrible abandonment issues cause everyone who as ever loved has left me well jesus will never leave you" yeah an invisible being just floating there above me that'll help
Wait, didn't this church do that too???
@@SeptemberStranger28 Probably, but the church I'm talking about is in TN
@@SeptemberStranger28 a Canadian church did a bunch of plays combining the Easter story and popular media. Jenny Nicholson made a video on it and it’s amazing
Edit: I know one of the exact ones they did was Toy Story. Also the Avengers, Pirates of the Caribbean, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future…
guys i'm gonna be real right now, that line where hamilton goes "turn around, it's over, or i will leave your mouth toothless" actually had me laughing so hard that for a split second i thought it was genius.
yeah i thought it was a decent way to get around the actual line, much better than a lot of the other line changes
Kid's bop version of Hamilton 😂🤣
what song is that supposed to be?
@@99percenterr cabinet battle #1
@Sophie Arneson Its the “turn around and bend over i’ll show you where my shoe fits” line.
Not only does King George not have to dance or perform outside of his three songs, but all three songs are the exact same music and melody, just different lyrics. All he had to do is remember his lines.
Jonathon Groff was spectacular with his funny face expressions and the way he delivered it. Then there is that guy who looks 30 and just got thrown on stage.
I could do that easily and it would be so much better after only learning for a week
Per song
not to mention, this guy only had to remember two songs
guarantee without a doubt in my mind that this is the director of the musical
my friend was going to Hamiltons grave, i asked him "is it disrespectful, to Take a picture of Hamiltons grave and post it online?" he said "You took a picture with a grave who's owner is in a casket. Would you like to take it out and ask it?
Can I snap a pic of your corpse in bed?
Uhh, do whatever you want, I'm super dead!"
when Alexander first introduced himself people cheered like in the real show, but as people started to realize that this play was bad they stop making noise all together
They just give up on it.
@@Soda_Fizzy Let Jesus come into your ear canals...
@@Ugly_German_TruthsI'd rather do that with Jesus Christ Superstar, you know a musical that has good singing.
I feel like the reason they keep the harem joke is because it has always been a theme to villanize women, to show them as overly sexualized/sexually deviant/more prone to sin
Jezebel!
Yep, also these kind of Christians (not all through, just a decent amount) don’t like women too so it fits for them to keep it.
Made me wonder if this was an Evangelical church.
Apostasy fr
@@amityislandchumprobably
I felt so bad for the actress who played Eliza during Burn. It sounded like she was not only off on almost every note, but like she was straining to get there at all. The tension I imagined in her throat made my throat start hurting second-hand.
Yeah, and Burn only hits a D5. I have a low voice for an AFAB person and even I can reach that, especially with a good warm up. She sounds like she could be a good singer but badly needs lessons.
She seemed to have a fair amount of vocal talent earlier on, so I have no idea how she was failing so badly at the end. Poor kid.
These poor singers sound like actors on comedy who are singing off-key as a joke. Bravo for their bravery of attempting this … it’s not easy to sing or act in front of people. Where was the choir director?
@@dalailarose1596 probably just that eliza's actress had been singing all night, i wouldn't be surprised if she needed a break. obviously eliza doesn't have as many scenes as other characters, but she still has quite a bit, and it doesn't help that they're kinda big in a lot of cases.
obviously i know nothing about these kids, but just judging from the performance it feels like this is their first musical. they might not have a lot of training when it comes to singing, and therefore by the end are just straining to finish it out, eliza's actress included.
@@ashtonisvibing that makes sense, singing for hours on end is tiring and often requires some training. It's another reason why making her be Maria was dumb. That song probably helps act as a break for Eliza for both a rest and a costume change.
43:05 she needed Jesus's strength to steady her voice and relax her soft pallet, instead Jesus closed the door to heaven and put a pillow in the gap to block out her prayer.
Yes, this totally green kid didn't fully own burr as a character. But he can SING the role which is pretty impressive on it own. I fully agree, the kid wasn't bad, he's actually pretty good but the people who ran the show (all the adults) didn't help him in any way.
His voice is pretty enjoyable. With some singing lessons and finding an actual youth acting studio, he could actually become a really good performer on stage. It’s obvious the directors didn’t give him any direction or help him fix things. With better directions and more time spent on working with him, he could’ve owned this role.
I agree. I think the kid who plays Bur looks like he could be the (IRL) son of the guy who plays King George.
Imo, the Bur kid should’ve played Hamilton because he did have some emotional gut behind his acting and the Washington guy should’ve played King George cause that guy was extra and it would’ve spiced up the acting of KG as being extra.
As a Christian who had to do like 12 Christmas story plays in my lifetime, I’ve played sheep with more personality then this.
😂
Me playing a lion in the 3rd grade had more personality then this
Me as the sound guy had more acting personality then this
I played an angel back in 1st grade with more personality than this
My sister’s classmates played furniture in 5th grade with more personality than this
Something that is promoted within Christian churches is singing even if you're not good at it.
Plus you can't really expect a bunch of adverage teenagers going through puberty with no training to perform on the same level as a Broadway company. that's like telling a middle schooler to run a race against a Olympic runner.
@@BlazeDupree1525 The main characters are all adults…
@@obeliilebo3949 George and Washington are adults. Tone death adults, who clearly have never had any vocal training or anything. The rest of the cast are children.
@@BlazeDupree1525 the one who plays Eliza and the one who plays Alexander are married. So they might look young, and besides, they probably weren’t forced to do this
Ikr my church I'm being forced to go to has a choir that sounds like the literal muppets
8:20 what makes it even worse is that the Songs are really alike so it's easy to remember 😭
Songs that are alike are harder to remember, you mix up the lyrics and get confused
@@theEWDSDS no I meant like the melodies I probably should have worded it better
TDI SPOTTED
The girl playing Eliza is DEFINITELY, the pastor's daughter.
apparently, she's married irl to the one who played hamilton
I think she did a decent job compared to the other girls
@@kiyotan1048MARRIED?? THEY LOOK 14
@@WoRm_WoRm222 PLSS I HAD THE SAME REACTION 😭😭 THEY ALL LOOK LIKE THEY'VE BARELY GONE THROUGH PUBERTY
For sure
I love how Washington reacted to Hamilton's "CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME!!!!" he clearly was not expecting that.
Felt like real life was bleeding over into that "performance".
That rage, was giving
"I AM SEVERELY SHELTERED BY MY PARENTS"
with that Christian rage lol
They really said at the end “Hamilton cheated on his wife so God killed his son, revealed the affair, and killed Hamilton”. What a lesson from a benevolent god
They really trying to portray god as good and proceed to make him look petty vengeful and evil 😂
No way 💀
It's honestly a miss interpretation of the text.
They read the Bible and put 2 instances of God doing 1 of those things (twice) and decided "Yep he just does that to be petty"
All imma say about the church adding those lines is they don’t represent all Christians they were trying to send a message about why you should follow God but they went about it the wrong way yak what I mean
Also are we gonna talk about how Eliza accepted Jesus and had faith in god and yet what she gets in return is her husband cheating on her and then her child and her husband dying
The “monkey circumcised” joke had me wheezing harder than buddy holly
That is quite possibly the funniest fcuking expression I have ever heard and I will be using it from now on
OOO-WEE-OOO
*cool guitar riff*
I think I figured out why they cut out "The Story of Tonight":
One of the lines from this song is "Raise a glass to freedom". In the previous track, "My Shot", Hamilton says "I'm only 19, but my mind is older".
Not only does this mean that Hamilton is consuming alcohol, but he would have also been underage. Yes, the legal drinking age was different back in the day, but this is Christian Hamilton, and alcohol of any sort is a big no-no for them (possibly, idk I'm Jewish).
This could be true, however in Aaron Burr Sir, all four of them are drinking in a bar, and they didn't cut the line "two pints of Sam Adams, but I'm working on three." But, you're probably right given how little they care about consistency with their censorship! Good thinkin!!
Isn't alcohol the blood of the Christian lord? I thought churches were OK at least with drinking.
Throwing myself under the bus as a Christian. I don't know what religion specifically this group is, but most Christians are definitely okay with alcohol. As a Catholic Christian, we are served wine in church to symbolise the blood of Christ.
So they, uh, that's no excuse for them.
ex-protestant christian here, most protestants are also okay with it, but the evangelicals will evangelical
@@nicopavvi8494 in all churches I’ve gone to it’s taught against as a BIG NONO I also personally it’s a Nono because I saw it destroy my family for several years I praise Jesus daily that that family member got help
I love the idea of two Thomas Jeffersons having a fist fight
It's like when you choose the same character in a fighting game and they have a different color. I just imagined that but with two Thomas Jeffersons fighting in France!
It was probably the scamilton Thomas vs the hamilton Thomas to see who's the true Jefferson
The mental image that this gave me is fantastic.
Miku Jefferson vs Bootleg Jefferson
I’ve had Miku binder Jefferson out of my head for a while. Why’d you have to remind me? :(
At 32:09 Washington sounded like the actual actor for a sec and it threw me off💀💀
“Men still foolishly praise me” also feels like a stab at the original show and its creators.
yeah, absolutely. that was almost definitely aimed at them, because before hamilton became so big he was the most forgotten of the founding fathers. why would he be praised if people didn’t even remember he existed?
@@PurgatoryProductions1I really don't consider Hamilton forgotten, he is probably on the same tier as Adams, but hilariously he is the punching bag of mosts guys
Not to mention, Lin and the people who helped him write the story made it absolutely clear that Hamilton isn't a perfect person.
Even Javier Muñoz, Lin's alternate, praised the way Hamilton because Alex is such a flawed individual.
Ok do not do this. Do not go up to someone who is grieving a loved one and tell them (directly or indirectly) that they are responsible for that loved one's death because they did not sufficiently believe in your religion. That is vile and is grounds for them punching you in the face. The fact that these people think that doing this will get them converts instead is baffling to me. Of course that is just one of the many problems with this play.
There is absolutely nothing Biblical about "[Loved One] died because you aren't a Christian". I'm a born-again Christian; I think I'd know if there was. Also, just for reference, it's a DIRECT CONTRADICTION of what Jesus clearly said to say a child is born with a deformity, disability, developmental or intellectual delay, is stillborn, and/or [problem] because of a parent's sin or (perceived) lack of Christian faith, should you ever hear anyone spewing that bullshit. Might just be me, but I figure when Jesus says something like, "That man was not born blind because of his parents' sin", that's a real clear indication whatever's going on with a kid when they're born, it has nothing to do with what their parents may (not) have done.
I would not have sympathy for anyone who told a grieving parent, "Your child died because you aren't a Christian" and was punched in response. Assholes who spew that kind of vileness, in my mind, aren't worth the assault and battery charges punching them could bring, so walking away before you serve up a knuckle sandwich would be my advice, but I'd totally understand if a grieving parent lashed out in anger.
probably a protestant church tbh
I've seen this happen, people get you at a really emotionally raw and vulnerable time and convince themselves they are helping you. I do think it does work sometimes because in grief some people are looking for any piece of driftwood in a storm and these people tell them they can fix it.
To some extent there is help because listening and community is one thing a church is pretty good at. It's just vile to not give community without the message of self blame or pushing your product/religion. If churches were just there for people and didn't try to push but people ended up joining because of the community that supported them that would be so much better. The christian belief that one cannot be whole or will be damned for eternity without Jesus is the most manipulative part of that faith. Especially when everyone one gets to decide what the "correct" relationship with Jesus is. It justifies all sorts of vile behavior.
Aiming at vulnerable people like grieving parents is sadly the first rule of christianity 101.
@@Ugly_German_Truthsno. Most Christians aren't like that. I honestly struggle to believe those kinds of "Christians" actually have faith of any kind, and aren't just using a religion that they constantly go against as an excuse for being a dick
this convinced me im good enough to be in musicals. not good musicals. but still.
same
I heard that Eliza is the priests daughter and is married (or at east engaged) to Hamilton so that’s why she plays also plays Mariah lol. No handholding outside of marriage
The…PRIEST’S…DAUGHTER?
@@kaylaplaysthesims immaculate conception 2?
Isn't she a little bit... Too young?! To either engagement or marriages
@@veetoristh I grew up with a lot of very religious christian and a lot of them get married young and have kids young. Seriously, I saw two 17 years old get married and now they're 22 and they have 5 kids.
Aren’t they like 18? I have no idea if they are children or adults.
“The ugly duckling revealed itself not to be a duckling, but a bitch-ass hater” Sir, you have earned yourself a subscriber 😭
21:37 Fun fact, this style of musical number where everyone is singing individual lines over each other is a polyphony, and it's sometimes referred to as "the cacophony." Despite the nickname, this style often works really well because everyone is harmonizing and on the same general note progression. In this production, though, it seems like they've taken the word "cacophony" to heart and made the artistic decision to make the final minute of the song sound as dissonant and off-key as possible.
Very true. The way they performed it (completely off key) made everything sound so dissonant and grating.
We did something similar for my choir performance when we did “We don’t talk about Bruno” and I had the Dolores solos, and at the end when everyone is singing together it sounded great in practice with all the solos and the rest of the choir singing together (but then for the actual performance half the solo kids went out including mine .😅)
But we worked for WEEKS on it to make it sound right and you can really tell just how much the directors didn’t care.
Sorry if this is long, just my experience on how HARD this style is.
As a Polish person, I approve of that timestamp
@@yati_xox 🇻🇦
Fun fact!:alexander Hamilton never really healed from Philips death
Makes sense
" *FUN* fact" 💀💀💀
Non-Stop is also supposed to be the direct result of Laurens’s death too, bro went to a pretty dark place after said friend died
Non-Stop is also supposed to be the direct result of Laurens’s death too, bro went to a pretty dark place after said friend died
god this musical is such a trainwreck, not only do the harmonies make me want to die inside, but they got rid of all of the depth and metaphors in hamilton to replace them with jesus propaganda ?? why choose this musical if you're gonna tear it apart /:
this was such a good video, you deserve more subs, especially after sitting through this lmao
It’s truly bizarre. Thanks for watching!!
Because it's big popular musical and big popular musical means that all the kids are gonna be going to it and thus they'll be tricked into learning about Jesus of course :D
(I bet all the people who went to the musical live quietly said "thanks, I hate it" at the very first line)
Harmonies? What harmonies?
You're calling it "depth" and "metaphors" as if it's fiction when it's "things that actually happened, set to music".
@@thewanderingmistnull2451 they are (to a degree) things that actually happened set to music, but there are also things to be considered about the music being played and when the characters talk and share things about themselves with that music, like every time Alexander goes into an "I remember death" monologue or when he sings Hurricane.
There is a lot more to Hamilton's music than "historical events given a soundtrack", and it goes very deep. The musical after all has a lot to say about legacy and what a person leaves behind in the world after death. I highly recommend looking at Howard Ho's videos on Hamilton songs, where he breaks them down and explains the hidden meanings and intentions behind every lyrical and musical choice.
my favourite part is how washington is muted in the last song so when you hear eliza talk about her achievements and stuff and about the washington monument it really feels like the man is fighting for his life trying to take credit for what she did
Man be like :
"ˢʰᵉ ᵗᵉˡˡˢ ᵐʸ ˢᵗᵒʳʸ"
Im laughing loud at this 😂
I fully cracked up at that. It had real "stop telling everyone I'm dead!" vibes.
@@sarahg6932
Eliza: I can still hear Washington now
Washington: stop telling people I'm dead!
Lol, logically know his battery pack probably died or the mic disconnected if he sat down, but sound person in me would absolutely love it if the mixer had just had enough of GW and hit the mute button.
Eliza: I introduced hundreds of kids to Jesus
YOU KillED THEM
Underrated
Truly underrated
IJBOL
“I forced hundreds of children to convert to my religion,”. There, I fixed it.
@@TheMedicatedArtistthat would definitely fit 👍
The funniest part about the “ambassador of France” thing is that it would’ve been a really easy fix too. “Throwing hands AS the ambassador of France” or even “kicking butt as the ambassador to France” doesn’t even sound that bad compared to a lot of the other censors. They just had to change that ONE word.
You just pointed out how ridiculous the church's problem with certain words is to begin with. Like, why would the word "butt" be acceptable but the word "ass" sends them into a fit of the vapours? It's all so random and pointless.
Dear Theodosia is my favorite song in all of Hamilton because of the themes and Leslie Odom Jr's vocals and I was devastated when it wasn't there. But I'm also thankful that they didn't let them butcher it.
naw rhe kid that played burr wouldve killed it
Devastated is a strong word
The “she lets us know by doing her best impression of a monkey getting circumcised” “AAAAAAUUGHH” got me crying laughing -
Me too honestly
Man I feel bad for the kid playing Burr, he seems to be having TERRIBLE stage fright
@Joseph Mamah I've gotten a lot more confidence in my singing thanks to my coach, but I'd definitely be deadly afraid of doing THIS play...
I joined chorus but I forgot like 6 lines of the song. The entire group. We decided as a joke we would change our identities and move to Mexico or Sweden idk but now I have a small amount of stage fright and I like shiver but you can see a bit of it and I hate it. I mean I’ve always had it but the thought of walking up on a stage and just talking it mortifies me
Funniest part of this is that Hamilton was literally bisexual 💀
No he wasn’t stop making things up about historical figures
Don’t make things up about historical figures
@@Goldenroses930chief read the letters he sent to john laurens then come back here
@@bendrowned8506once again he is not bisexual
@@Goldenroses930 “Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you.”
This is from the national archives, namely “Alexander Hamilton to lieutenant colonel John Laurens, [April 1779] if you want to read the whole thing, i picked one sentence that proved my point but there are many others as well
As a Christian I am officially terrified that they’ve ruined one of my favorite musicals- I don’t even think ruined is the best word choice for this disaster.
Edit: I didn't think this would start a comment war LMAO
As a Christian I’ve sadly accepted that we have two, count ‘em- 2, good musicals about our faith and that is Prince of Egypt from Dreamworks and Jesus Christ Superstar
As another Religious person, I too also was mortified when I knew this. Everything gave me second hand embarrassment from the singing, to the change in messages.
Like I get it, they make plays. It can be fun. But like, if you’re already going to change a lot until the storyline is no longer the same, then you might as well not pick Hamilton! It’s based off real history, and it’s why you don’t want to change things.
I’m sure there are other things to make plays off of. I just don’t get why they chose Hamilton 😅
@@miatortelllini4049 AMEN TO THAT!
ngl i am a Christian and i LOVEEEEE Hamilton, but geez they just set it on fire. its just. i have no words. i prefer the OG Hamilton over this.
SAME. this is making me feel so embarrassed as a christian
As someone who has been doing microphones in theater for 7 years, listening to Angelica’s microphone be so unbelievably hot throughout the entire musical made me physically cringe.
What an amazing niche
Ayo-
RIGHT?? I showed this to a sound person I work with (I’m on lights) and I could see the look of pain on their face. Whoever set the gain on that mic needs to visit their doctor to get their hearing checked.
Did they really have a priest go up to a man and tell him "hey have you ever considered that your child's death is your fault?" and thought that was a touching momeng
Biggest facepalm right there.
It felt so vile and predatory to me!
To that church, it probably is a normal thing to say to someone whose relative recently died. It's a disgusting thing to do, but pastor privilege, i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As someone who has experienced this behavior due to my family being religious, it's an awful feeling to hear someone tell an ACTUAL grieving person that maybe it's their own fault. I never spoke to my uncle after what he did
Aint no hate like christian love
You just know there was one young Hamilton fan who left that theatre disturbed
another note is that at the very, very, VERY end of the original musical, eliza gives out a bloodcurdling gasp and the stage goes completely dark after talking about who will “tell her story.” this actually means that eliza saw the audience, and its a crazy forth wall break because it means that we, the audience, are going to tell HER story. i hate that that entire number was infected by christianity and crap that undermines the entire story of hamilton. (and, if they did leave the gasp in, then it would’ve been nightmare fuel)
I always interpreted that as her death, but thats a very interesting interpretation!
I always thought it was representing how shocked she was that so many people now knew her and Hamilton 's story. Idk though
Lin said it doesnt have any meaning that anyone except for Eliza herself knows, not even her actress(es? idk if there are multiple Eliza actresses) knows the correct answer.
The Washington actor is the only one in this entire production who is a theater nerd and actually watched the original production. The reason the Arron Burr actor is scared of him is because he seems like the Rachel berry of the production. 😂
yet he cant sing for shit
Dear Theodosia what to say to you, you have gods eyes-
At first I thought it was just really funny, and kind of hoped that everyone who owns the copyrights to Hamilton (Lin-manual Miranda and Broadway) would just turn a blind eye, but as soon as I heard the word “homosexuality” come out of the pastors mouth, I wanted everything to go up in flames lol
Sending all the money to a pro lgbtq charity is so brilliant and satisfying
Specially since Hamilton was possibly bisexual (LMM thinks of it as part of the character). Using a queer person's story to spout anti-queer propaganda is fucking disgusting.
@@aldranzam3456 it’s straight up vile.
No for real, that made me so happy. Justice and snark, my favorite combination
Hey, not rlly part of the musical threatre community. Cld I ask under what scenarios it's illegal to perform musicals? Is it illegal even if it's non-profit or a school production or something? I'm curious because my school has done things like hairspray, frankenstein, a mid summer night's dream, etc. Do they have to buy the rights for that?
@@aldranzam3456 plus the original cast also had a few LGBTQ members as well
The singing at 0:10 makes me want to cry 😭
42:49 bruh Washington in the background going full effort with no mic “she tells my storryyyyyy” actually killed me
Same🤣
I can only assume they cut Theodosia bc Burr was in an adulterous relationship and had the child out of wedlock
Hamilton: _Knows about Theodosia_
Also Hamilton: _publishes his own sins instead of letting Burr know what they both know_
Well based on the context of the play all 3 guys would keep that affair under wraps especially burr... (The bro code above political gains)
@@brownie3454they use that to show why Burr and them didn’t expose him. “We both know what we know”
Hamilton goes out of his way to expose himself so it doesn’t “stain his legacy” or whatever and admit what he’s done
While Bur did commit adultery with Theodosia, they were married after her husband was killed in South Carolina. Their daughter Theodosia was conceived after their marriage. Hamilton's son Phillip was already a year old, having been born in 1782, while Theodosia was born in 1783. Interestingly enough, she also died young, being drowned at sea when she was just 29.
@@brownie3454 Burr knew that Hamilton knew he was seeing a married man's wife. He was the one who told him in Hamilton's wedding scene. By the time Hamilton was confronted and wrote the Reynolds Pamphlet the war had already been over for a decade, Burr married Theodosia after the death of her husband, and their daughter was born a year later. It was all considered water under the bridge by then.
I feel really bad for Eliza/Maria Reynolds and Burr in Scamilton. They could totally be good actors and singers, but they need more practice and more attention from directors. I think it's pretty clear that they only paid attention to Hamilton for this. Those kids really don't deserve that and I hope they'll do much better in the future!
Eliza sounds like she has a good voice in there but needs a good bit more training to tease it out and pull off a role this challenging.
SCAMILTON.
I love that.
SCAMILTON💀💀
38:33
So Im orthodox, but I grew up Baptist. My parents split and in the years prior I was very atheist. But orthodoxy made me restore a little faith. Now... THE ACCURACY AND TRAUMA THIS SCENE HAS IS CHILLING I HAVE HEARD THIS EXACT TONE ALL THE TIME IM SCARED-
"sir do you want me to run the treasury or state department?"
...
"ᵗʳᵉᵃˢᵘʳʸ"
"Let's go."
Kind of like he was yelled at by Hamilton and just kind of answered like a sad toddler
time stamp!
21:17
Wouldn’t it be lit af if Hamilton answered with, “Okurrrrrrrt!”