Autism affects how you learn and perceive things. It affects social cues. So with that being said, the part of Chris that is autistic is the part that is awkward and has a hard time with certain subjects. The other, more problematic part of Chris is most likely trauma from the abuse he suffered from both sides of his life.
@@messagefamilystyled1101as someone with mild schizophrenia and autism i do not want to be put on the same level as chris chan, but i cant deny the possibility of it being true
Something of note if you're aware of Christory: Chris has, in the past, mentioned that he wears his medallion backwards when he says something that is untrue. When he was forced to make a video calling himself gay by a troll, he wore his medallion backwards. He later said it was evidence of him being untruthful.
Best comfort I have gotten about feeling worthless is knowing someone sees worth in you out there. Even if they are right there, it is hard to see sometimes. Chris Chan made it somehow, so we will make it too. @@DropsofJupiterReal
I know autism is a spectrum, so almost anything is possible in terms of severity and symptoms... but I think Chris has got something more than 'just' autism going on.
As someone who is autistic and was also traumatized in various unsavory ways, there is no way that Chris is not a victim of abuse. I refuse to go through all the backlog for my own sanity, but this person needs professional help.
@@LordWaterBottleOh, he is. But it got to the point where he'd do whatever people told him to do that 'supported' what he thought and would let him keep doing what he wanted to do. It was easier for him to do so. But then instead of professional help he ONLY talked with the counselor at the church, cause again it was way easier for him where he could hold back from telling certain things and still be 'good in god's eyes'. It's like a train wreck that just... doesn't stop.
@@BacentRekkes oh no, there's religion involved too, I should have guessed as much. Personal opinion here, but I think it is harmful, possibly even abusive, to give an autistic person a religion, especially if it comes with "original sin" or "eternal damnation".
@@LordWaterBottle I'd say you're on to something. But also, the whole 'internet truman show', treating her like gail chord schuler, who is clearly ALREADY deeply troubled, and embroiled in a broken nonsensical fantasy world... that's got to be the BIG thing. I mean, I've seen some _shit_ in my lifetime. Crazy folks. _Slow_ folks. Normal folks. I've seen em ALL at their worst & ugliest, in person. I can tell say with confidence, that the autism simply made it easier for him to be led so completely astray. To be convinced he was trans, or jesus, or that his comic was real. It just became a feedback loop. Like I said, I've seen some shit, and I can say, again, with confidence, that all autism really does, is make you enjoy one piece, and miss sarcastic cues. Not this. Not ANY of this. It was just the catalyst. A springboard, for goddamn 4chan.
@@LordWaterBottle I somewhat disagree. Faith is fine. What's not fine is raising them on dogmatic beliefs like what accompany the majority of organized religion. Autistic individuals tend to be rather binary in thinking. Especially given how frequently organized religious groups stray rather far from the intended teachings of their important books.
I'm beyond convinced that whatever's going on with Chris, it's not _just_ autism. No autistic person I've ever known has had beliefs as unrealistic as theirs. I don't think this is just distortion, these feel like full-blown delusions. There must be some form of psychotic disorder that's going undiagnosed.
as someone with autism and with family whom also is on the spectrum i agree. It makes me curious if he perhaps has a schizo equivalent disorder. honestly i get exaggerating to impress others, but to be that out of touch just doesn't seem logical. he is a very curious person indeed.
You have to remember that Chris isn’t just your average person with autism. They were raised by neglectful parents who isolated them from the world and then got trolled nonstop for 20 years. This is a person whose mental state is completely unlike what most of us are familiar with.
No, he is too much of a compliant tool to be a Targeted Individual (T.I.). A TI generally becomes a target because of some manner of dissenting- not fuming n spazzing 'round Gamestop -after being *trespassed* - until cops get involved. Source: a T.I. and former Rosicrucian/Thelemite, me.
@@Everyone_Dies Such is autistic MO. If I were on the spectrum, I'm pretty sure I too would see some jail time (considering I am in fact an excon, too, it may have been: JAIL+PRISON/DRow+ LIGHTNING RIDE weeeeeeee!)
Ikr? That kinda hurt..I have asd too and saying that autistic people in general have no concept of what they "normal" find creepy and weird..didn't feel good. Cause that's not true at all. And being friends witj someone like Oompaville who is also autistic, you'd think he'd know better.
@@SuperFranzsmisgendering people because they're bad is a dangerous line to walk. You wouldn't misgender a cis individual if they were evil, so why a trans person?
I just finished Turkey Toms Chris Chan vid and I’m just baffled. On one hand you have a severely autistic person being a punching bag online while on the other hand a serial stalker and an incest offender. What a truly puzzling individual
Well yeah, his life was ruined, personality and humanity destroyed by years of 4chan types fucking with him and his life in ways that are beyond psychological torture LITERALLY non-stop. It devastated his mind and his spirit in a way that it’ll never be put back together ever again.
@@bajjajajbajjjajaj6473 you're clearly misinformed if you think chris chan wasn't always this bad. We know a lot, a LOT about him, he was raised in terrible circumstances way before the internet knew about him.
@@bajjajajbajjjajaj6473 no he was a degenerate predator long before the 4Chan homies got their hands on him. Some people are just fucked up. There isn't always someone to blame. Chris Chan was never a good human, period.
My ex has a friend with schizophrenia and the stuff he would joke about, while medicated mind you, was not on par with normal human interactions. If you didn't understand you could believe the guy was an active necrophile, or even a cannibal. The ability to filter morbid intrusive thoughts from acceptable imaginary imagery, combined with the lowered abilities of sorting out their internal worlds from external reality makes for some intense conversations. A lot of the time it's best to just smile and nod, less anger the beast, I swear they flip on dime and it's not a joke.
Ive had friends with schizophrenia and I have a grandfather with it and some are indeed like this but most are not. Would be better if you did not generalize schizophrenic people in such a way. They are human beings with as much range and depth as you have. And they are all different.
@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt Honestly what a strange non-bot poaching attempt. Usually it's blanket statements but you genuinely thought anyone would care or even consider you better than a faceless youtube comment.
Even me, who is living under a rock and in remote places does know about him. When i first heard about him it was while i was visiting my parents in law at Lake Baikal three years ago and had youtube on autoplay. since then i have that feature disabled.
Speaking as someone who’s autistic, I’d really caution you against using autism as an excuse for everything Chris does. What he did wasn’t because of his autism. He’s seriously mentally ill. We need to hold him accountable.
I don’t think he actually did it though, I strongly believe he was tricked into giving a false confession. I’m autistic too, and so are you, so you and I, of all people, should understand how susceptible people like us can be to that kind of deceitful trickery. False confessions are a very real thing, we of all people should know that…. EDIT: (Although having said that, everything else you said is absolutely spot on. Autism is absolutely not an excuse for incest or any other serious crime, I just don’t believe he committed said crime.)
Autism is a spectrum because everyone has different neurological pathways. Having autism does t necessarily give you authority to speak on the matter outside of personal experience.
If he is autistic, he definitely is low-functioning. Autism is a spectrum, and it can be different from person to person. It can be almost indistinguishable from "normal people" (high-functioning) and they can live a completely independent life, or severely crippling and obvious to everyone (low-functioning) and they will need others help to live a normal life.
@@Rahnonymous Autism is a spectrum, not a gradient, one can't be more or less Autistic and the terms "low-functioning", "high-functioning" and "Asperger's" are considered an outdated way of categorizing Autism that doesn't fit with the most current understanding of ASD.
We certainly live in a timeline. Geno did one of his CWC streams last night where he watches old Chris Chan videos in chronological order and Chris was in chat. He said something about the house fire of 2013 and Geno corrected him that it was 2014
There is a reason full name of autism includes the word "spectrum". Some autistic individuals are so withdrawn they're unable to function whatsoever, some function "in a different world" and some are physically aggressive and dangerous to themselves and others*. And psychosis is associated with some forms of autism. *I may have had to dodge a few chairs when attending a school with a special wing for severely autistic kids, and I actually wouldn't learn about milder forms until like mid high school. Granted, this probably was a case of psychotic episode lmao
Isabella’s father is a former “three letter agency” worker and they have been taking down stuff about her for a while now. According to Josh you will get Permanently banned from 4chan if you talk about her.
the fact youtube and twitter have both permanently banned people for less but hes allowed to come back like nothing happened and keep posting is crazy. id be worried about him reaching out to more potential victims. the fact hes not in prison or at least some mental ward somewhere is even crazier.
I'm more concerned that TH-cam let Sssniperwolf get away with a slap on the wrist. Her case was a lot more concrete than Chris Chan's, and the whole internet was demanding TH-cam ban her, and they still basically just scolded her.
@@vibaj16They know they can make too much money off a “hot girl gamer” to ban her from their platform. She’s lowkey being exploited, but by doing so they’re allowing many other people to get hurt.
@@videogameguy101 I keep hearing people say that, but that argued doesn't make any sense. SSSniperWolf gets tens of millions of views every year, while the rest of the platform gets tens of trillions. The ad revenue they get from her is a drop in the ocean when compared to the rest of the platform. Letting her continue making videos won't raise their yearly profits by even 0.0001%. So why protect her? I just don't understand the mentality.
I wouldn't be shocked to discover that Chris really did it but the incarceration made the delusions consume him, and he now just unironically believes it never happened because he spend the entire time in jail building a reality where that was the case.
Chris thrives off of attention, and knows that a large portion of the internet is watching and documenting their actions almost religiously. I believe the best course of action here is to let them fade into obscurity
Honestly half the shit that had happened would've never happened had the internet just had a chuckle and left things well enough alone. This isn't to justify any of the fucked up things this person did, and this isn't placing all the blame on internet cringe culture, but it surely had a part for somebody already mentally unwell.
@@syos1979 Chris has always been the lesser of evils imo the people that have targeted and continue to target a clearly mentally disabled person for constant harrassement for their entertainment from that person's misery are just as bad and in many cases with crhis chan worse lolcow culture is sickening it takes a twisted person to think it is alright to target someone for organized mass harrassment bc they are an easy target and/or easy to exploit
As someone with a few autistic friends and a past significant other with the condition, I personally think Chris chan is more than just Autistic. They remind me more of people I've interacted with who experienced severe physical or sexual violence at a young age. (Edit: I'm not saying they were sexually abused, but that's level disfunction and mental deterioration I'm seeing)
It was said that Chris hates men. Perhaps it could be because of sexual abuse. I vaguely remember reading that there was some sexual abuse but I could be mistaken.
Definitely. Bob and Barb were in deep denial about Chris's issues. They would've preferred to say that he was completely neurotypical. As can be gleaned from Chris's warped stories about his own past, there was some effort to beat it out of him/pray it away. Only after he was irredeemably broken did they admit he was "autistic" as an explanation for his disordered behaviors. It's a shame, because with proper, early intervention and therapy Chris could've probably had a relatively normal life.
Given that his father was a miserable bigot and his mother was a raging narcissist (who’s now a semi-vegetable), that’s not as surprising as it should be
It always bugged me that the only perspective on this story that we had, was the perspective offered to us by clinically psychopath kiwi farmers, their narrative was the one the entire internet immediately ran with, that never sit well with me. That said, I would happily live my life without hearing about Chris Chan ever again.
i feel so old, living in an age where taking time at the start of a youtube video to explain who chris chan is and what a lolcow really is necessary lol
More like one of the most stalked and harrassed people in history. There are other people with more documented lives. But chris chan has been mob stalked and harrassed for most of his adult life at this point. Lolcow culture is toxic af. What drives people to try and make another person's life miserable for their entertainment I will never know.
Man, if possible and given a chance, I would love to be Liquid Chris successor, I will title myself to be "Solidus Chris" "Chris, no escape, I'm a whole different game than Liquid!"
Going to have to be an armchair psychologist here and say that it's definitely not just autism. I've known autistic ppl and my gf's two brothers both have autism and I've known them for 4 years. Yeah, sometimes one of them can have out of pocket immature humor but nothing close to thinking "im gonna say i fucked my mom to be cool." Obviously autism ranges all over the place and I would say Chris Chan is definitely severely impacted by it but also leaves me to think there's more than just autism. Given their delusions and unreliability they might be schizotypal (not schizophrenic) as well, I'm not very familiar with it but I have a general idea and it seems to check the boxes.
Narcissism, borderline personality disorder id say. It seems like Chris just cannot stop himself/herself from being the spectacle, can’t stop wanting the attention. Even when it’s destructive. But hey I’m no dr.
I agree, he's WAY too delusional for it to just be from just autism. Also a big part of his mental behaviour is the way he grew up, he had no chance with parents like this and his internet presence
@@MinnesotacreameI can’t recall exactly what it was, because it’s been so long since I’ve last read up about him, so please correct me if I’m wrong: didn’t Chris Chan himself admit that he “”transitioned”” just so he could get ‘closer’ to girls? Or was it lesbians or something?
@@andrewe.2464 ive seen tons of people claim this but ive never once seen anyone actually link to chris-chan saying this and if chris-chan _is_ faking being trans in order to get close to women by pretending to be one, she absolutely would've said outright that that's what she's doing. chris "dirty crapped briefs" chan has no mental filter or any real capacity for discretion
Chris Chan's autism is the worst case scenario I hope we don't all get associated with him, everyone is different. I'm also like 100% sure he's psychotic
Some people with autism do have a grasp on social situations, it just is difficult to learn. Chris's issue is not autism, he is an individual with genuine mental health issues that leave him mentally handicapped. He is someone who is completely devoid of reality and is clearly sociopathic. Chris doesnt want to exist in reality cause he then has to come to terms with the fact that he ruined his life and will never get to fulfil his aspirations, so he crafted his own world to live in and he is trying as hard as possible to project it into the real world.
Well, I’ve certainly met an individual like that. She was horrifying, and-… not too far off from Chris Chan, now that you point this out. Holy shit. Ex friend of mine that I cut out - was incredibly toxic and finally broke things off when I found out she was e dating a 14 year old at 21. Pissed was I.
He understands it's a get out of jail free card (literally) Chris Chan definitely understands his situation and how to exploit it, typically he just makes the worst decision though
There's a remarkably similar Case in Germany, Rainer Winkler aka "Drachenlord". Apparently, he already has been a Case Study in some Legal and Psychiatric Classes. Some Guys even said that he already "advanced" from just a few Classes to enough Idiocy to fill an entire Semester.
Seriously. The fact that he has the will to go on after experiencing all that he has does show that he has quite the iron determination. He’s very tragic but he does show that even after suffering through some of the worst torment imaginable you can still keep your will to go on. He’s kind of a really sick and disturbed anti-hero in many ways.
The issue i have with people talking about cc is how they attribute every problem cc has with autism. cc, although she almost certainly HAS autism, also most certainly has other more significant issues. The equation of autism with unhinged behaviour is a dangerous precident to set.
If that isn't a saying from Captain Obvious I don't know what is. That was the problem a few years ago when the liars representing that truck attacker in Toronto tried to get his charges dismissed by crying autism made him do it. Now its being used to excuse someone screwing their mother? Enough is enough. It makes the world more dangerous for the majority of us that ARE NOT PSYCHOPATHS! Neruodiversity does not mean inability to tell right from wrong!
It's seriously weird how Chris still hasn't gotten a wikipedia page, but then again it took 10 years for Jesse Slaughter to finally get a Wikipedia page.
From what I have heard, there was a Wikipedia page on him but they chose to remove it shortly after the incest fallout. But he already has his own CWCki so there's that.
The scary part is that, because he got away with this, it has already been solidly reinforced in his mind that he did nothing wrong. The 2+2 equation of "man with completely shattered and twisted mental state and view of reality" plus "given proof, even false proof, that this man can get away with horrible crimes" well, I wonder where this could lead
I’m listening to the documentary at work and I’m on episode like 46. This feels like spoilers but I can’t look away. I knew about the mom stuff but this info is straight off the press!
They really deleted Leafy's channel and made it practically impossible for him to come back just cos he clowned on Pokimane a couple times. But they'll allow SSSniperwolf, EDP445 and Chris Chan to freely make content
@@KrissyMeowim suuuuure thats the case gramps. The problem here (i would guess) is that chris chan has probably not posted anything against tos on their yt channel, so there isnt a reason to ban them. Im in favor of chrischan getting banned btw and i have no doubt it will eventually happen.
"I was proven innocent" nope, the state just determined they didn't have enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and convict on the crimes very likely committed by the defendant.
Make sure you mention this if you ever get called for jury duty so you can't make any decisions regarding the law and people's lives. You don't have to be proven innocent. You are innocent until proven guilty. Dismissed charges can occur for multiple reasons. If their isn't enough evidence, that doesn't mean someone probably did it. That's not how the law works, nor should it. Your thoughts are very dumb and you should never be on a jury. You probably assume if someone is arrested, they must be guilty. Everyone is innocent. It's the courts job to prove your guilt. If they can't, that doesn't mean someone must have done the crime.
@Lord_Nikon33 Innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept and does not necessarily apply to what you or I as individuals believe. If I see someone commit a murder I'm not going to assume they're innocent because they havent been convicted in a court of law yet. Also, Chris himself said he was proven innocent. He was not. He is presumed innocent, he was not proven innocent.
@DylanNes witnessing a murder doesn't make you believe in someone's innocence. It makes you an eye witness to a major crime. Did you witness Chris having sexual intetcoure with his mother? The reason innocent until proven guilty exists for this very reason. People used to believe in witches, and based solely on this belief, people were burned alive. Your beliefs have nothing to do with the law and shouldn't be a reason to persecute anyone. Again, please mention your beliefs if you're ever selected for a jury so you don't ruin someone's life.
@Lord_Nikon33 We dont have jury duty where I live, but I have a legal career and a degree in criminal law. You are pedantically conflating the personal opinions of random people on TH-cam with opinions that carry actual legal weight. Chris does not have to be formally proven guilty of anything for any sane person to believe he's likely guilty based on what we know. No one here is trying to "persecute" anyone, as much as you'd like to believe they are. We are as entitled to our opinions as Chris is to be PRESUMED innocent by the state (not PROVEN innocent, as correctly stated by the OP). As an aside, because it isnt relevant (at all), I know many jurisdictions where Chris' confessions alone would have likely been enough for him to be convicted in a court of law. The idea that he's the victim of some witch hunt when he literally bragged about the thing he's being accused of is profoundly idiotic. I do not know enough about US/Virginia law or this specific case to give an educated opinion on this, but my understanding has been that the charges were dropped mostly because he'd already spent more time jailed than he would have ended up serving. It does not appear inconceivable at all that he would have been convicted if the state had known what to do with him in time to give him a speedy trial.
We thought the arrest was the bad ending. This is the oblivion ending. We deserve everything we get for letting this Lovecraftian monstrosity walk free.
@@simulationone wish I could laugh. Chris has no moral or ethical compass. He's completely devoid of all humanity. Very few things in life scare me, but somehow, he does.
Legally, there was no reason to keep him. All they can do is send him back. Virginia apparently is also the worst aid available for adults with Autism. So there really is no one to grant him help.
Chris went from a cartoon like man child to Buffalo Bill, and it stopped being funny years ago. Chris needs to be institutionalized and given serious mental help. He's a threat to himself and others.
I'm not familiar with his/her personal life or living arrangement. However, they may *have to* when their family members become unavailable to support/care for them.
Definitely can't take care of him/herself. I'd place them mentally at the age of about 10. I don't know who informed Chris that their autism was high functioning but I believe they were lying. Maybe mid-functioning? If there is such a thing.
He wasn't able to say it out loud why he ended up in jail, he tries to distance himself from his mom like she is just a random woman and he also tries to play down the situation. Autistic or not, he knows very well what he did.
Chris has always been the lesser of evils in all this. The real sick fucks are ones that have constantly harrassed and stalked chris trying to make his life miserable for their entertainment. Even though it is clear he is disabled and easily exploited bc of his mental health issues. It takes a special kind of demented freak to think it is ok to target someone like chris and then orginize with others to try and ruin that person's life.
The sad part is that Bella has had an online presence for a tiny fraction of the time that Chris has and yet if even part of the claims about her a true, she’s a truly horrific monster.
Imo chris chan has always been the lesser of evils in all this. He has been stalked and harrassed most of his adult life despite it being obvious that he is disabled and easy to manipulate. The kind of people that will fixate on, stalk and harrass a person making every effort to make that person's life miserable for their entertainment are the real sick fucks in this story.
@@CBTheCandid I'm having to re-reply with this as I edited the original to add a link to an image with some more accusations, but that got it removed: If I remember correctly, she leaked the incest call, with the apparent goal of making him kill himself. (Edit: Testing to see if this is still here [It is])
I think I'm just kind of bored of Chris' antics. I think the world would be a lot better if we just ignored their antics, constantly gawking at CWC like they're still interesting or shocking is doing far more harm than good for everyone.
You know what's wild to me about Chris-Chan? You know, years from now, someone is ABSOLUTELY gonna make a Oscar-nominated film based on Chris-Chan's life.
Muta, there's plenty of evidence of Barbara calling Chris "Bob" (Chris' father and her late husband). Chris telling her he likes it when she's more flirty. The stories of Barb only wanting to share a bed with Chris since Bob passed... He 100% did sleep with his mother. You should probably get more details down before you assume he's innocent.
Chris-Chan is the type of delusional others can only wish to be. If you're that delusional, you must feel free. Like, you're not tied down to the limitations of reality and every day is an adventure.
I used to work with adults with developmental disabilities. The company I worked for would provide supportive living services. Our clients had a range of disabilities, but most were high functioning. Higher functioning means they would be able to understand most things. One of the things we would help clients with is any legal issues they had such as regular court, family court, and probation. I am not a lawyer or anything like that, but one thing I learned when it came to individuals with disabilities depending on the severity of the crime whether it was a misdemeanor or a felony. This only applies if the individual committed a felony that the court could see if the individual was competent enough to understand what they did. If they found them incompetent then the charges could be dropped and the person would go through competency training, but there was no guarantee that the individual would learn how to be competent. Also, this applies to the California court system. Every state is different. I believe this might be the case for Chris. Also, I highly doubt that he is only autistic. Many of my clients had many psychological issues like depression, anxiety, etc going on besides their main diagnosis.
Probably before that depending on how old you are. His first few videos uploaded to the net go all the way back to ‘04. And he was a part of many forums even before that.
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autism doesn't give you paranoid delusions. Chris 100% has something else going on thats undiagnosed.
Grandiose narcissistic personality for sure to an extent, but also other disorders and abuse.
Mild schizophrenia
Autism affects how you learn and perceive things. It affects social cues. So with that being said, the part of Chris that is autistic is the part that is awkward and has a hard time with certain subjects. The other, more problematic part of Chris is most likely trauma from the abuse he suffered from both sides of his life.
Honestly thats like Jalyn. Just replace "autism" with "trans" and it doesnt make it any difference
@@messagefamilystyled1101as someone with mild schizophrenia and autism i do not want to be put on the same level as chris chan, but i cant deny the possibility of it being true
Chris chans life is like a storytelling game where you intentionally choose all the bad options.
And wear the goofiest cosmetics
but at the same time he has plot armor so things never get too bad so as to end the story
Nice. You totally ripped this comment from another Chris Chan video. Very original.
@@hardcoredoom5892wah wah
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Something of note if you're aware of Christory:
Chris has, in the past, mentioned that he wears his medallion backwards when he says something that is untrue. When he was forced to make a video calling himself gay by a troll, he wore his medallion backwards. He later said it was evidence of him being untruthful.
this deserves to be higher in the comments
I wish I could like this comment more than once. 100%
Chris chan lore is wild
oh no.....
And the plot thickens..
After feeling like I ruined my own life, the fact that Chris Chan can just come back gives me false hope.
I hope everything is okay. If you truly feel this way i hope you have somone to talk to
Don’t rape your mother and you’ll be doing better than him
It’s not false. The fact that you have enough self-awareness to know you need to improve your life already puts you miles ahead of Chris
Yeah, I feel the same. I feel like I'm fucking worthless.
Best comfort I have gotten about feeling worthless is knowing someone sees worth in you out there. Even if they are right there, it is hard to see sometimes. Chris Chan made it somehow, so we will make it too. @@DropsofJupiterReal
When the world didn't need him, he returned anyway
@@Loulouiez what 😭
“Somehow, Chris Chan returned.”
@@carter_lovejoy a very fitting quote
@Loulouiez you made an alt? You need your meds
Didin’ even want’im either
Chris hitting us with that "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" moment.
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I literally thought about that when I saw that video Chris Chan posted.
don't give him ideas
I know autism is a spectrum, so almost anything is possible in terms of severity and symptoms... but I think Chris has got something more than 'just' autism going on.
As someone who is autistic and was also traumatized in various unsavory ways, there is no way that Chris is not a victim of abuse. I refuse to go through all the backlog for my own sanity, but this person needs professional help.
@@LordWaterBottleOh, he is. But it got to the point where he'd do whatever people told him to do that 'supported' what he thought and would let him keep doing what he wanted to do. It was easier for him to do so. But then instead of professional help he ONLY talked with the counselor at the church, cause again it was way easier for him where he could hold back from telling certain things and still be 'good in god's eyes'.
It's like a train wreck that just... doesn't stop.
@@BacentRekkes oh no, there's religion involved too, I should have guessed as much. Personal opinion here, but I think it is harmful, possibly even abusive, to give an autistic person a religion, especially if it comes with "original sin" or "eternal damnation".
@@LordWaterBottle I'd say you're on to something. But also, the whole 'internet truman show', treating her like gail chord schuler, who is clearly ALREADY deeply troubled, and embroiled in a broken nonsensical fantasy world... that's got to be the BIG thing.
I mean, I've seen some _shit_ in my lifetime. Crazy folks. _Slow_ folks. Normal folks. I've seen em ALL at their worst & ugliest, in person. I can tell say with confidence, that the autism simply made it easier for him to be led so completely astray. To be convinced he was trans, or jesus, or that his comic was real. It just became a feedback loop.
Like I said, I've seen some shit, and I can say, again, with confidence, that all autism really does, is make you enjoy one piece, and miss sarcastic cues. Not this. Not ANY of this. It was just the catalyst. A springboard, for goddamn 4chan.
@@LordWaterBottle I somewhat disagree. Faith is fine. What's not fine is raising them on dogmatic beliefs like what accompany the majority of organized religion. Autistic individuals tend to be rather binary in thinking. Especially given how frequently organized religious groups stray rather far from the intended teachings of their important books.
Honestly, the whole storyline of Chris Chan is definitely one that can not be replicated.
@@Loulouiezwhoa really?
@@Loulouieztake your meds
@@Loulouiez you good?!
@@Loulouiez Testicular Torsion powers: ACTIVATED
is this a challenge?
It's so wild that Chris just came back and casually made a 'response' video to what happened like it was any other generic YT controversy.
I'm beyond convinced that whatever's going on with Chris, it's not _just_ autism.
No autistic person I've ever known has had beliefs as unrealistic as theirs. I don't think this is just distortion, these feel like full-blown delusions. There must be some form of psychotic disorder that's going undiagnosed.
Thank You!
as someone with autism and with family whom also is on the spectrum i agree. It makes me curious if he perhaps has a schizo equivalent disorder. honestly i get exaggerating to impress others, but to be that out of touch just doesn't seem logical. he is a very curious person indeed.
Referring to a grown ass man as they isn't helping matters tbh
You have to remember that Chris isn’t just your average person with autism. They were raised by neglectful parents who isolated them from the world and then got trolled nonstop for 20 years.
This is a person whose mental state is completely unlike what most of us are familiar with.
Yes
“You shipped me with my mom, you shipped me with that snorlax” gotta be top 5 craziest things ever said of all time
The slowly rotting Sonichu necklace is a metaphor for Chris Chan themself.
Himself*
@@masonrockwood7732 themself is gender neutral, regardless of the gender.
theyre wearing it backwards
It. Chris ain’t human. Call the poor beast an it.
He's a guy, stop it with this fake nonsense all it does is harm actual females.
Sniperwolf and now this? What a time to be alive boys!
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your replies😭
The darkest timeline
Born too late to explore the world. Born too late to explore the stars. Born just in time to explore this internet arch.
That drake album
The level of "surveillance" done on Chris chan is the best possible evidence for the existence of "gang stalking" in my opinion. 😅
Holy shit you're right
No, he is too much of a compliant tool to be a Targeted Individual (T.I.). A TI generally becomes a target because of some manner of dissenting- not fuming n spazzing 'round Gamestop -after being *trespassed* - until cops get involved.
Source: a T.I. and former Rosicrucian/Thelemite, me.
When you are a proven sexual assaulter of your own diseased mother, you deserve no privacy.
but on the other hand before all of this he put every detail of his own life online
@@Everyone_Dies Such is autistic MO. If I were on the spectrum, I'm pretty sure I too would see some jail time (considering I am in fact an excon, too, it may have been: JAIL+PRISON/DRow+ LIGHTNING RIDE weeeeeeee!)
As someone with diagnosed ASD, not to the extent of Chris Chan, I think most of us still know that shit is fucked.
Ikr? That kinda hurt..I have asd too and saying that autistic people in general have no concept of what they "normal" find creepy and weird..didn't feel good. Cause that's not true at all. And being friends witj someone like Oompaville who is also autistic, you'd think he'd know better.
We truly live in the year of the unholy trinity. EDP, Yandere Dev, and Chris Chan
God bless Joe Biden
Bentellect and Sssniperwolf too. And oh, colleen. Good God i hate colleen.
@@DQK_DQKthose are bad bad far away from the unholy trinity
@@DQK_DQK those two are…lesser but no less potent evils. They are like the lesser demons basically.
Who's yandere dev
I knew she was trying to troll me, so I outplayed her completely by going to jail for multiple years. Gottem.
yep, I love that everyone forgets that he was boasting to null before the call about how he was "seeing" a much older woman.
"she". Calling him "she" is an insult to trans people.
@@SuperFranzs tbf both cases I was talking Isabella. My headcanon doe remains that Chris Chan invented transgenderism.
@@SuperFranzsmisgendering people because they're bad is a dangerous line to walk. You wouldn't misgender a cis individual if they were evil, so why a trans person?
They were arrested Aug 1st 2021, released early 2023.
Could you imagine going to jail for murder or drug dealing and you get invited to Chris-Chan’s DnD group in the library lmao
Chris Chan is like a case of bad diarrhea. When you think you're just about done with it, it comes back full force.
That analogy is so cursed. I love it.
Would you say you have DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS?
Also leaves you frazzled and wanting a drink of water. While having a sip you think, ‘how the fcuk has this happened?..’
The last time I had food poisoning was more pleasant than shit chan.
I dont know what youre talking about ,what is dioreea... you?
I just finished Turkey Toms Chris Chan vid and I’m just baffled. On one hand you have a severely autistic person being a punching bag online while on the other hand a serial stalker and an incest offender. What a truly puzzling individual
This is the reason why I have mixed feelings about the situation
any empathy i had for chris basically went down the drain once he tangoed with barb
Well yeah, his life was ruined, personality and humanity destroyed by years of 4chan types fucking with him and his life in ways that are beyond psychological torture LITERALLY non-stop. It devastated his mind and his spirit in a way that it’ll never be put back together ever again.
@@bajjajajbajjjajaj6473 you're clearly misinformed if you think chris chan wasn't always this bad. We know a lot, a LOT about him, he was raised in terrible circumstances way before the internet knew about him.
@@bajjajajbajjjajaj6473 no he was a degenerate predator long before the 4Chan homies got their hands on him. Some people are just fucked up. There isn't always someone to blame. Chris Chan was never a good human, period.
My ex has a friend with schizophrenia and the stuff he would joke about, while medicated mind you, was not on par with normal human interactions. If you didn't understand you could believe the guy was an active necrophile, or even a cannibal. The ability to filter morbid intrusive thoughts from acceptable imaginary imagery, combined with the lowered abilities of sorting out their internal worlds from external reality makes for some intense conversations. A lot of the time it's best to just smile and nod, less anger the beast, I swear they flip on dime and it's not a joke.
That's interesting
"less anger the beast" made me laugh harder than it shouldve
Sounds a lot like chris chan tbh
I’m living with a schizophrenic person and yeah this sounds exactly like him and what he does, and he is on medication.
Ive had friends with schizophrenia and I have a grandfather with it and some are indeed like this but most are not. Would be better if you did not generalize schizophrenic people in such a way. They are human beings with as much range and depth as you have. And they are all different.
I wonder when Muta will realize that virtual machines are just his version of trains
@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt not surprised your a gatcha channel
Lmao I never thought of it that way ngl but it makes sense
@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt
In 5 days judgement day will come and EVERY human being on Earth other than you will be saved.
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@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt saddest channel promotion I've ever seen. you aren't even a bot, you're just typing these comments manually
@@theJennicat Glorified gambling channel targeted at kids and young adults.
I wish I could go back to when I had no idea who this guy was
Same
...sadly I feel the same.
@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt Honestly what a strange non-bot poaching attempt. Usually it's blanket statements but you genuinely thought anyone would care or even consider you better than a faceless youtube comment.
Even me, who is living under a rock and in remote places does know about him. When i first heard about him it was while i was visiting my parents in law at Lake Baikal three years ago and had youtube on autoplay. since then i have that feature disabled.
The before times in the long, long ago.
Speaking as someone who’s autistic, I’d really caution you against using autism as an excuse for everything Chris does. What he did wasn’t because of his autism. He’s seriously mentally ill. We need to hold him accountable.
I don’t think he actually did it though, I strongly believe he was tricked into giving a false confession. I’m autistic too, and so are you, so you and I, of all people, should understand how susceptible people like us can be to that kind of deceitful trickery. False confessions are a very real thing, we of all people should know that….
EDIT: (Although having said that, everything else you said is absolutely spot on. Autism is absolutely not an excuse for incest or any other serious crime, I just don’t believe he committed said crime.)
Autism is a spectrum because everyone has different neurological pathways. Having autism does t necessarily give you authority to speak on the matter outside of personal experience.
If he is autistic, he definitely is low-functioning. Autism is a spectrum, and it can be different from person to person. It can be almost indistinguishable from "normal people" (high-functioning) and they can live a completely independent life, or severely crippling and obvious to everyone (low-functioning) and they will need others help to live a normal life.
@@Rahnonymous"normal" is low functioning
@@Rahnonymous Autism is a spectrum, not a gradient, one can't be more or less Autistic and the terms "low-functioning", "high-functioning" and "Asperger's" are considered an outdated way of categorizing Autism that doesn't fit with the most current understanding of ASD.
We certainly live in a timeline. Geno did one of his CWC streams last night where he watches old Chris Chan videos in chronological order and Chris was in chat. He said something about the house fire of 2013 and Geno corrected him that it was 2014
Imagine someone know your life better than you are. Truly exceptional
That...that is just sad that Chris didn't know the correct date
lawd have mercy
@DellaVossa Geno and GiBi (Lore Cattle Ranch) both are
Lmao
Whenever I feel like I can't go on, I find strength in how Chris Chan perseveres.
That makes me want to end it all
as someone with both autism and suffered from psychosis, i believe this is way more psychosis than autism .
This I'm actually interested in, would you be all right with elaborating?
yo cat pfp gang, also autism and had psychosis before i 100% agree with u
There is a reason full name of autism includes the word "spectrum". Some autistic individuals are so withdrawn they're unable to function whatsoever, some function "in a different world" and some are physically aggressive and dangerous to themselves and others*. And psychosis is associated with some forms of autism.
*I may have had to dodge a few chairs when attending a school with a special wing for severely autistic kids, and I actually wouldn't learn about milder forms until like mid high school. Granted, this probably was a case of psychotic episode lmao
Isabella’s father is a former “three letter agency” worker and they have been taking down stuff about her for a while now. According to Josh you will get Permanently banned from 4chan if you talk about her.
She's suspected to have been MK Ultra'd?
He worked for the KFC?
so they'd rather use their power to take down criticism of her instead of degenerate shit on the internet
He is a high school educated glowie that got pushed through university and gifted a govt job
@@fivebrosstopmosp
the fact youtube and twitter have both permanently banned people for less but hes allowed to come back like nothing happened and keep posting is crazy. id be worried about him reaching out to more potential victims. the fact hes not in prison or at least some mental ward somewhere is even crazier.
I'm more concerned that TH-cam let Sssniperwolf get away with a slap on the wrist. Her case was a lot more concrete than Chris Chan's, and the whole internet was demanding TH-cam ban her, and they still basically just scolded her.
@@vibaj16They know they can make too much money off a “hot girl gamer” to ban her from their platform.
She’s lowkey being exploited, but by doing so they’re allowing many other people to get hurt.
*her?
@@videogameguy101 I keep hearing people say that, but that argued doesn't make any sense. SSSniperWolf gets tens of millions of views every year, while the rest of the platform gets tens of trillions. The ad revenue they get from her is a drop in the ocean when compared to the rest of the platform. Letting her continue making videos won't raise their yearly profits by even 0.0001%. So why protect her? I just don't understand the mentality.
@@Mr.Bimgus TH-cam is greedy. They want every last drop.
"You messed up Elon, now even Chris Chan is making sense".
I think this might be my new favourite quote.
I wouldn't be shocked to discover that Chris really did it but the incarceration made the delusions consume him, and he now just unironically believes it never happened because he spend the entire time in jail building a reality where that was the case.
Delusions typically aren't a symptom of Autism, but rather a totally separate mental illness. Just to clear it up, as I am also autistic.
Chris Chan's existence really helps me with my fear of inadequacy and depression.
If all else fails, I at least know I'm not like him.
Chris thrives off of attention, and knows that a large portion of the internet is watching and documenting their actions almost religiously. I believe the best course of action here is to let them fade into obscurity
I've thought this since the early days of hearing abt Chris. It's high time to stop egging this person on
it'll never happen, he is one of the first lolcows and as long as that term exists Chris will continue to thrive
Honestly half the shit that had happened would've never happened had the internet just had a chuckle and left things well enough alone. This isn't to justify any of the fucked up things this person did, and this isn't placing all the blame on internet cringe culture, but it surely had a part for somebody already mentally unwell.
@@syos1979
Chris has always been the lesser of evils imo
the people that have targeted and continue to target a clearly mentally disabled person for constant harrassement for their entertainment from that person's misery are just as bad and in many cases with crhis chan worse
lolcow culture is sickening
it takes a twisted person to think it is alright to target someone for organized mass harrassment bc they are an easy target and/or easy to exploit
Good luck, people have been trolling Chris for over 20 years.
As someone with a few autistic friends and a past significant other with the condition, I personally think Chris chan is more than just Autistic. They remind me more of people I've interacted with who experienced severe physical or sexual violence at a young age.
(Edit: I'm not saying they were sexually abused, but that's level disfunction and mental deterioration I'm seeing)
It was said that Chris hates men. Perhaps it could be because of sexual abuse. I vaguely remember reading that there was some sexual abuse but I could be mistaken.
Definitely. Bob and Barb were in deep denial about Chris's issues. They would've preferred to say that he was completely neurotypical. As can be gleaned from Chris's warped stories about his own past, there was some effort to beat it out of him/pray it away. Only after he was irredeemably broken did they admit he was "autistic" as an explanation for his disordered behaviors. It's a shame, because with proper, early intervention and therapy Chris could've probably had a relatively normal life.
Given that his father was a miserable bigot and his mother was a raging narcissist (who’s now a semi-vegetable), that’s not as surprising as it should be
He's certainly been abused/harassed over the internet and sometimes in person for years. That can mess up even an ordinary person.
@@Corvid- couldn't agree more
It always bugged me that the only perspective on this story that we had, was the perspective offered to us by clinically psychopath kiwi farmers, their narrative was the one the entire internet immediately ran with, that never sit well with me. That said, I would happily live my life without hearing about Chris Chan ever again.
i feel so old, living in an age where taking time at the start of a youtube video to explain who chris chan is and what a lolcow really is necessary lol
Absolutely what I was thinking
Right like what’s next, someone having to explain who Onision is.
God I’m old.
@HeatherHolt If it makes you feel any better I heard my nephew singing I'm a banana on repeat for days awhile back Time really is a circle
@@Gearsio the old ways still matter lol
Same thing here, only difference is I'm young.
Crazy how we know everything about Chris Chan’s life 😭 . One of the most documented people in history ☠️
cant wait for the netflix doc
More like one of the most stalked and harrassed people in history.
There are other people with more documented lives.
But chris chan has been mob stalked and harrassed for most of his adult life at this point.
Lolcow culture is toxic af.
What drives people to try and make another person's life miserable for their entertainment I will never know.
More documented than Jesus.
All cause he's one of the biggest blabbermouths in history
damn you watched the video too?@@theepicduck6922
Just remember, if Chris Chan is able to make a comeback, we all gonna make it, bros.
With the fact Liquid returned just before this, I can't wait for *_"Metal Gear Sonichu: Twin Chris"_*
My buddy Cyraxx @realcyraxx is working with him on the OFFICIAL sonichu comic dub!
no fucking way
Man, if possible and given a chance, I would love to be Liquid Chris successor, I will title myself to be "Solidus Chris"
"Chris, no escape, I'm a whole different game than Liquid!"
@@fzxfzxfzx I legit can't wait to see if Solid actually notices Liquid returned. He did in the past, and I wonder if he'll continue
Going to have to be an armchair psychologist here and say that it's definitely not just autism. I've known autistic ppl and my gf's two brothers both have autism and I've known them for 4 years. Yeah, sometimes one of them can have out of pocket immature humor but nothing close to thinking "im gonna say i fucked my mom to be cool." Obviously autism ranges all over the place and I would say Chris Chan is definitely severely impacted by it but also leaves me to think there's more than just autism. Given their delusions and unreliability they might be schizotypal (not schizophrenic) as well, I'm not very familiar with it but I have a general idea and it seems to check the boxes.
Probably a narcissist too
That’s my thought, too. Asperger’s plus some cluster A personality disorder. But who knows?
Narcissism, borderline personality disorder id say. It seems like Chris just cannot stop himself/herself from being the spectacle, can’t stop wanting the attention. Even when it’s destructive.
But hey I’m no dr.
@Koopyspappy there's a reason I said "armchair psychologist," quit yapping
I agree, he's WAY too delusional for it to just be from just autism. Also a big part of his mental behaviour is the way he grew up, he had no chance with parents like this and his internet presence
It is absolutely stunning to me that the first and ONLY thing Chris has ever said that makes sense is just "X is stupid it's still Twitter"
Chris has made some good takes that make sense from time to time. Like with Sonic’s design in the early movie trailer.
@@fulcrum6760 ah... Well they still don't make much sense tbh
I’m convinced that The Truman Show was a premonition for the phenomenon that is Chris Chan.
Chris is the last guy I’d take advice from on what and what not to do. He’s in no position to say what’s right and wrong.
Girl*. I don't like them either but no need for transphobia lol😊
@@Elethriel He's a convict, pronouns do not matter to criminals
@@MinnesotacreameI can’t recall exactly what it was, because it’s been so long since I’ve last read up about him, so please correct me if I’m wrong: didn’t Chris Chan himself admit that he “”transitioned”” just so he could get ‘closer’ to girls? Or was it lesbians or something?
@@Elethrielhow were they being transphobic? In fact, who is even scared of trans people?
@@andrewe.2464 ive seen tons of people claim this but ive never once seen anyone actually link to chris-chan saying this
and if chris-chan _is_ faking being trans in order to get close to women by pretending to be one, she absolutely would've said outright that that's what she's doing. chris "dirty crapped briefs" chan has no mental filter or any real capacity for discretion
Chris Chan's autism is the worst case scenario I hope we don't all get associated with him, everyone is different. I'm also like 100% sure he's psychotic
Some people with autism do have a grasp on social situations, it just is difficult to learn. Chris's issue is not autism, he is an individual with genuine mental health issues that leave him mentally handicapped. He is someone who is completely devoid of reality and is clearly sociopathic. Chris doesnt want to exist in reality cause he then has to come to terms with the fact that he ruined his life and will never get to fulfil his aspirations, so he crafted his own world to live in and he is trying as hard as possible to project it into the real world.
Well, I’ve certainly met an individual like that. She was horrifying, and-… not too far off from Chris Chan, now that you point this out. Holy shit. Ex friend of mine that I cut out - was incredibly toxic and finally broke things off when I found out she was e dating a 14 year old at 21. Pissed was I.
Don't blame autism for Chris Chan thinking it was "cool", there are plenty of people who have autism who would never brag about that.
Low Functionings exist
Autism is a spectrum. I am on it and I agree with the Mario guy
I agree that autism is a spectrum but Chris is an outlier
He understands it's a get out of jail free card (literally) Chris Chan definitely understands his situation and how to exploit it, typically he just makes the worst decision though
@@raiisleep he has the mind of a toddler
Toddlers think crying is a get out of trouble card
I genuinely think future generations will study Chris Chan at school as a legit historical figure.
There's a remarkably similar Case in Germany, Rainer Winkler aka "Drachenlord". Apparently, he already has been a Case Study in some Legal and Psychiatric Classes. Some Guys even said that he already "advanced" from just a few Classes to enough Idiocy to fill an entire Semester.
Life just can't keep this man down! It's sort of inspiring in a super screwed up way.
Seriously. The fact that he has the will to go on after experiencing all that he has does show that he has quite the iron determination.
He’s very tragic but he does show that even after suffering through some of the worst torment imaginable you can still keep your will to go on.
He’s kind of a really sick and disturbed anti-hero in many ways.
>Fanta profile picture.
Why did you have to remind me?
@@SuperFranzsnah thats orange crush
Ironically I was binging Chris Chan videos just before this was uploaded; I actually completely forgot that this just happened
"You messed up Elon, even Chris-Chan is making sense" is not a sentence I ever expected to hear and yet
The issue i have with people talking about cc is how they attribute every problem cc has with autism. cc, although she almost certainly HAS autism, also most certainly has other more significant issues. The equation of autism with unhinged behaviour is a dangerous precident to set.
Yeah, I am very surprised by Muda’s lack of articulation in this clip.
If that isn't a saying from Captain Obvious I don't know what is. That was the problem a few years ago when the liars representing that truck attacker in Toronto tried to get his charges dismissed by crying autism made him do it. Now its being used to excuse someone screwing their mother? Enough is enough. It makes the world more dangerous for the majority of us that ARE NOT PSYCHOPATHS! Neruodiversity does not mean inability to tell right from wrong!
Ive seen a lot of ppl blame it on trans ppl too
I said it in another reply, but there's a significant link between autistic/neurodivergent people and their coexisting psychological disorders.
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It's seriously weird how Chris still hasn't gotten a wikipedia page, but then again it took 10 years for Jesse Slaughter to finally get a Wikipedia page.
Wikipedia is really weird about what is worthy of a page
@@TaliyahPWell, it's depends on whether someone want to write a page and whether an admin want to do a research of the page if it's true or not
From what I have heard, there was a Wikipedia page on him but they chose to remove it shortly after the incest fallout. But he already has his own CWCki so there's that.
Most of the JS content can't be documented without getting visited by the party van.
Who?
The scary part is that, because he got away with this, it has already been solidly reinforced in his mind that he did nothing wrong. The 2+2 equation of "man with completely shattered and twisted mental state and view of reality" plus "given proof, even false proof, that this man can get away with horrible crimes" well, I wonder where this could lead
If Chris Chan commits another crime:
Justice System: "Oh no, who could've seen that one coming? How could we have prevented this?!"
It's a virtual certainty this will happen. I was saying the same thing in the last video Muta made about Chris's release
I’m listening to the documentary at work and I’m on episode like 46. This feels like spoilers but I can’t look away. I knew about the mom stuff but this info is straight off the press!
They really deleted Leafy's channel and made it practically impossible for him to come back just cos he clowned on Pokimane a couple times. But they'll allow SSSniperwolf, EDP445 and Chris Chan to freely make content
Be the right political leaning, gender or sexuality and you'll have a free pass with these websites. It's gross.
He shouldve said he was gay and non binary
@@KrissyMeowim suuuuure thats the case gramps. The problem here (i would guess) is that chris chan has probably not posted anything against tos on their yt channel, so there isnt a reason to ban them. Im in favor of chrischan getting banned btw and i have no doubt it will eventually happen.
"Omg, they were doing their mom. I mean they were a motherfucker" the way Muta delivered that lol
"I was proven innocent" nope, the state just determined they didn't have enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and convict on the crimes very likely committed by the defendant.
Make sure you mention this if you ever get called for jury duty so you can't make any decisions regarding the law and people's lives. You don't have to be proven innocent. You are innocent until proven guilty. Dismissed charges can occur for multiple reasons. If their isn't enough evidence, that doesn't mean someone probably did it. That's not how the law works, nor should it. Your thoughts are very dumb and you should never be on a jury. You probably assume if someone is arrested, they must be guilty. Everyone is innocent. It's the courts job to prove your guilt. If they can't, that doesn't mean someone must have done the crime.
“Innocent until proven guilty.”
@Lord_Nikon33 Innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept and does not necessarily apply to what you or I as individuals believe. If I see someone commit a murder I'm not going to assume they're innocent because they havent been convicted in a court of law yet. Also, Chris himself said he was proven innocent. He was not. He is presumed innocent, he was not proven innocent.
@DylanNes witnessing a murder doesn't make you believe in someone's innocence. It makes you an eye witness to a major crime. Did you witness Chris having sexual intetcoure with his mother? The reason innocent until proven guilty exists for this very reason. People used to believe in witches, and based solely on this belief, people were burned alive. Your beliefs have nothing to do with the law and shouldn't be a reason to persecute anyone. Again, please mention your beliefs if you're ever selected for a jury so you don't ruin someone's life.
@Lord_Nikon33 We dont have jury duty where I live, but I have a legal career and a degree in criminal law. You are pedantically conflating the personal opinions of random people on TH-cam with opinions that carry actual legal weight. Chris does not have to be formally proven guilty of anything for any sane person to believe he's likely guilty based on what we know. No one here is trying to "persecute" anyone, as much as you'd like to believe they are. We are as entitled to our opinions as Chris is to be PRESUMED innocent by the state (not PROVEN innocent, as correctly stated by the OP).
As an aside, because it isnt relevant (at all), I know many jurisdictions where Chris' confessions alone would have likely been enough for him to be convicted in a court of law. The idea that he's the victim of some witch hunt when he literally bragged about the thing he's being accused of is profoundly idiotic. I do not know enough about US/Virginia law or this specific case to give an educated opinion on this, but my understanding has been that the charges were dropped mostly because he'd already spent more time jailed than he would have ended up serving. It does not appear inconceivable at all that he would have been convicted if the state had known what to do with him in time to give him a speedy trial.
This showes you: no matter what you do, you can still be platformed on YT
We thought the arrest was the bad ending. This is the oblivion ending. We deserve everything we get for letting this Lovecraftian monstrosity walk free.
😂
@@simulationone wish I could laugh. Chris has no moral or ethical compass. He's completely devoid of all humanity. Very few things in life scare me, but somehow, he does.
That just made me realize.
Chris-chan is still on the hunt for a boyfriend-free-girl 🤣
Everyday makes me want to delete the youtube app a little bit more...
Chris Chan understands right and wrong, he just doesn’t care
Chris calling his mother snot lax is easily a top 5 Chris Chan quote. Absolutely hilarious.
Having autism doesn't make you a sociopathic lunatic.
No, but it can make it more likely by a smaller amount
"You messed up elon... even chris chan is making sense" should not have made me laugh as hard as it did lol
the fact that they ran ads for Frasier (a show about a Freudian psychologist) on that video is INSANE
Chris chan really tried to pull a "I did not have Sexual relations with that women"
We need Liquid Chris and Pickle Man more than ever
to the prison that released chris chan, what have you DONE?!?
Legally, there was no reason to keep him. All they can do is send him back.
Virginia apparently is also the worst aid available for adults with Autism. So there really is no one to grant him help.
@@TheDarkPixie99 He needs to be in a criminal asylum.
He was put in a women's jail, because he claimed to be a woman. It was probably for the best for the women stuck in there.
@@TheDarkPixie99I thought someone bailed him out?
@@fivebrosstopmos There are no asylums anymore, only social media.
Just look at California.
I'm glad Muta finally got out of that bright red room of his, that intense light must be melting away his cornea day by day.
Chris Chan doing Sssniperwolf a big solid, getting some eyes off her for a sec.
Chris went from a cartoon like man child to Buffalo Bill, and it stopped being funny years ago. Chris needs to be institutionalized and given serious mental help. He's a threat to himself and others.
I'm not familiar with his/her personal life or living arrangement.
However, they may *have to* when their family members become unavailable to support/care for them.
That was the hope
Definitely can't take care of him/herself. I'd place them mentally at the age of about 10. I don't know who informed Chris that their autism was high functioning but I believe they were lying. Maybe mid-functioning? If there is such a thing.
Not gonna happen...
unfortunately
@@rabidcheesemonkey1092it’s his. HIS life.
Good opportunity to shout out Turkey Tom for documenting Isabella.
He wasn't able to say it out loud why he ended up in jail, he tries to distance himself from his mom like she is just a random woman and he also tries to play down the situation.
Autistic or not, he knows very well what he did.
Born too late to explore the world. Born too late to explore the stars. Born just in time to explore this internet arch.
...Close enough.
Chris is a tragic person. Failed by their parents, failed by the system.
So he goes and hurts and forces himself onto his mentally ill mother. So tragic that it is ok to do that and you agree with that.
He is not tragic.
@@GiantMushroomswho said that was okay? Who even mentioned that?
@@underintact134 that's what sympathy for the devil sounds like chris doesn't need sympathy he deserves condemnation
Chris has always been the lesser of evils in all this.
The real sick fucks are ones that have constantly harrassed and stalked chris trying to make his life miserable for their entertainment.
Even though it is clear he is disabled and easily exploited bc of his mental health issues.
It takes a special kind of demented freak to think it is ok to target someone like chris and then orginize with others to try and ruin that person's life.
"Put that thing back where it came from or so help me"
I guess a new saga is happening in the Chris Chan verse
@@Loulouiezwhy are you the way you are?
I wonder what he thinks of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (the movie, not the game) and The Super Mario Bros. Movie.
@@carter_lovejoydon’t give him video ideas, cmon man
@@bullseyebulldog8001 sorry…
@@carter_lovejoynonono keep going >:)
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But sonichu... It scares us...
Would of been hilarious if it was a snickers add "You arent you when ur hungry!"
The sad part is that Bella has had an online presence for a tiny fraction of the time that Chris has and yet if even part of the claims about her a true, she’s a truly horrific monster.
What have the claims about her been?
Imo chris chan has always been the lesser of evils in all this.
He has been stalked and harrassed most of his adult life despite it being obvious that he is disabled and easy to manipulate.
The kind of people that will fixate on, stalk and harrass a person making every effort to make that person's life miserable for their entertainment are the real sick fucks in this story.
@@CBTheCandid knowing the internet, I’m going to guess it probably has something to do with underage children.
@@antifurryfoundation55 Prolly, wouldn't be too shocked.
@@CBTheCandid I'm having to re-reply with this as I edited the original to add a link to an image with some more accusations, but that got it removed: If I remember correctly, she leaked the incest call, with the apparent goal of making him kill himself.
(Edit: Testing to see if this is still here [It is])
The only part of that video I could 100% believe was when Chris said
"They didn't know what to do with me."
17:57 don't ever turn Chris's writings into a drinking game. People will die from alcohol poisoning.
I think I'm just kind of bored of Chris' antics. I think the world would be a lot better if we just ignored their antics, constantly gawking at CWC like they're still interesting or shocking is doing far more harm than good for everyone.
id agree. but these are the same people who still support DSP and LTG.
Chris Chan & Billy Mitchell. These two names will ring forever in time
That would be great if Carl Jobst shilled Billy Mitchell hot sauce.
You know what's wild to me about Chris-Chan? You know, years from now, someone is ABSOLUTELY gonna make a Oscar-nominated film based on Chris-Chan's life.
i am autistic. i dont want him to be associated with autism and i dont want to be associated with him.
Muta, there's plenty of evidence of Barbara calling Chris "Bob" (Chris' father and her late husband). Chris telling her he likes it when she's more flirty. The stories of Barb only wanting to share a bed with Chris since Bob passed...
He 100% did sleep with his mother. You should probably get more details down before you assume he's innocent.
Chris-Chan is the type of delusional others can only wish to be. If you're that delusional, you must feel free. Like, you're not tied down to the limitations of reality and every day is an adventure.
Geno Samuel is absolutely mortified. He's gonna be making documentary episodes well past retirement age.
2023 is ending off on a weird note. What a strange year of ups and downs.
I used to work with adults with developmental disabilities. The company I worked for would provide supportive living services. Our clients had a range of disabilities, but most were high functioning. Higher functioning means they would be able to understand most things. One of the things we would help clients with is any legal issues they had such as regular court, family court, and probation. I am not a lawyer or anything like that, but one thing I learned when it came to individuals with disabilities depending on the severity of the crime whether it was a misdemeanor or a felony. This only applies if the individual committed a felony that the court could see if the individual was competent enough to understand what they did. If they found them incompetent then the charges could be dropped and the person would go through competency training, but there was no guarantee that the individual would learn how to be competent. Also, this applies to the California court system. Every state is different.
I believe this might be the case for Chris. Also, I highly doubt that he is only autistic. Many of my clients had many psychological issues like depression, anxiety, etc going on besides their main diagnosis.
Weird knowing that Chris-chan has been a thing since I was 15.
Probably before that depending on how old you are.
His first few videos uploaded to the net go all the way back to ‘04.
And he was a part of many forums even before that.
@@videogameguy101 If we're going by 2004,I was between 11 and 12.
Even when he's serious, he can't help but put on his infamous Chris Chan voice from 15 years ago lol
I witnessed Chris Chan's melt down at Too Many Games a few years back. I wish I could've been sick and missed it that day.
there's plenty of people with autism that aren't like chris chan
Chris Chan, retconning history per usual.