How To Learn How To Learn Japanese (Or Any Other Language)
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It took me 15 years to become fluent in Japanese...and I live in Japan. I slogged through textbooks and writing down notebooks full of kanji only to be able to recite my hobby and what I did last weekend after a year. Then someone suggested that I watch the same movie over and over at least 100 times...It's the same way you acquire your native tongue...repetition of the same phrases over and over, day after day. I tried it. It worked. Not only could I fully understand the movie "My Neighbour Totoro" I could pick up what people were saying in my daily life. "Totoro" is a fantasy, but it is full of daily life situations and their vocabulary. I highly recommend this method to anyone. Cheers!
Or to prevent insanity, you could watch many different things and the same results will come. There isn't a movie on earth that I could bear to watch 100 times.
@@sagefields5847 You don't need to sit down and actually watch it, just have it playing. It's similar to how you acquire your native tongue. When you're a toddler your mother doesn't talk to you about the economic uptick brought about by the current political situation, she asks you what you want to eat, if you're tired, if you want to go to the park etc. Language that is used over and over again repetitively to the point the child automatically uses the same phrases without thought. If you watch many different sources there are far too many new phrases for you to retain. Besides, your ear is not aurally trained enough to make distinctions between the words spoken as they are spoken so quickly and with little enunciation or inflection. Japanese is a very quickly spoken language with little intonation. I've lived in Japan for 30 years. Everyday life was my source. I watched the News, variety shows, dramas, movies etc. I couldn't understand a lick even after 5 years. It was a useless endeavour. Try that method if you like. I suspect you'll only be able to glean the odd word and phrase after years of doing it.
@@gordonbgraham I'd say watching intensively (few sources, many times) is great when you're still a beginner, but once you reach a certain level that daily conversations is a piece of cake, you should watch extensively (many sources, 1 time or fewer times) because now you're looking for vocabulary, since you've already acquired so many things prior to this related to pronunciation, grammar structures etc.
But that's just my POV. I'd watch the same thing over and over if I had patience to do it though.
@@Amanda-qe5lj Sure, but that "beginner" stage is quite a lengthy one with Japanese because of its complex writing system. I would say in all honesty it took me 15 years to become fluent. By fluent I mean being able to read a newspaper and understand most of what is being broadcast on the daily news. And that's with diligent studying for at least an hour a day, 5 times a week...while living in Japan. I know quite a few foreigners who claim to be fluent. I know very few who actually are. Attuning your ear to Japanese takes quite a long time initially as Japanese is considered the fastest spoken language in the world. The Japanese tend to speak very quickly with few discernible breaks between words and with minimal inflection to enunciate words. Phonemes such as ひ,つor う are often so reduced as to be incomprehensible. Couple that with the fact that your learned vocabulary will take time to become acquired vocabulary in terms of being able to identify words in an instant among a sea of other words you are not yet competent to navigate aurally. The repetition of a limited set of phrases greatly helps in building your aural skills and helps you navigate language outside of whatever source you are using to build those skills.
@@gordonbgraham Yeah, I'd say the approach must be different sometimes, for example, I'm learning English and I hands down think extensively listening/reading is better, but for some harder languages, it must be better to use the intensively approach.
Step1: find this channel
@@blackdeth-uo9mx there’s something called remembering the hanzhi
for real, this channel is a blessing to find for any language learners!
Step 2: Watch the video that tells you that there is bad advice everywhere.
Step 3: Ignore the comments giving advice.
I learned immersion was best from my mom. She literally came to the US knowing no English at all. She completely immersed herself in English and bought a Bible in English with a dictionary and forced herself to read it so she could understand better when we went to church. She only spoke English and the town we lived in had no Spanish speakers. Plus she married an English speaker. 10 years later she is basically fluent and she never took classes for English. 20+ years later and her accent is mostly gone. It can be done. You don't need traditional classes to learn a language as an adult.
I asked my Korean friend how he learned English. He said he read and re-read the Bible until he understood it. I am listening to 1 John in audio Bible and trying to follow the text.
That's how i learned english and I'm planning to learn japanese this way. My biggest struggle is learning the script. If japanese was written with a latin alphabet it would make it easier. But I have to learn the language.
I learned English mainly by reading fanfiction. I'm memorizing kanji to be able to read books, JP would be a whole lot easier in romaji...
That sounds discouraging actually :( I mean, yeah, she's fluent now, but it took 10 years to reach fluency and more than 20 years to get rid off the accent? That's definitely not the best example of learning a language through immersion. Considering that she's Spanish (Spanish is very similar to English), she could've reach fluency in like 0,5 - 2 years and then get rid of the accent in a few months of working on it. Immersion is the best (and probably the only) way to learn a language, but your mom were doing something wrong. (I'm not trying to offend someone, sorry, if I sound rude)
@@donpax8959 it's probably because she doesn't use a lot of _visual_ immersion, as krashen said, if you want to input, get _Comperhensible input_ .
I personally think that, using Comperhensible input is for _learning_ , and Input that's just audio is for Repeating or Practice of a language,
Of course (as this man shows) you can learn a language with just audio, but because there's less context there's a higher _fluency bar_ in order to understand the media, while in audio and video mode, you get more context, which helps you learn _new_ words and increase your level faster
Yoo I just realized how much Matt hates JapanesePod101 and tbh, after switching to AJATT/MIA I can totally agree. Especially after realizing that I (more or less accidentally) acquired English the exact same way through hours and hours of immersion. I never used any textbooks etc and it worked wonders.
@Halifax if someone wants to know how far they've come, they'll probably just test their knowledge based on how much they understand.
@Halifax There's a point that when u r speaking, in your mind u kinda know if what u r saying is correct or not.
Except Japanesepod101 actually has immersion material too
Can someone explain to me how to use AJATT?!
@@katya5573 learn basic grammar
Read and watch a shit ton
Put sentences you come across into anki
Repeat
Oh gosh! I used to give some good advice, _I think_ for learning English but I found myself kind of forgetting what the process really felt like. Now English is starting to feel more as a native language to me in terms of my cluelessness about it. I have to think a bit on how the heck did I acquire all this vocabulary and then memories hit me and I go like "ohh yeeeeeah... I remember now... oh wow that's actually fascinating" lmao
Excactly what happened with me. When I realised that I learned English by just using and immersing myself in it, I lost my shit :D :D. Now I use the same techniques to learn japanese that I used to acquire English. It feels better and somewhat more natural.
I thought I'm the only one 😅
fr, sometimes i dooub thte system, but then i realize i've already done it once completely as a kid lol
I think this is the best and most relevant video you have made.
Damn you were savage in 2015 !
Ikr!? xD
I'm kinda surprised he didn't unlist this video yet.
Yeah, now I see why George called him arrogant in the past haha. I do like Matt by the way
@@DANGJOS Tbh, although Matt's personality has changed and probably won't mention any channels directly like he did here, I'm sure he as well as many others including myself still agree that you can't get good at Japanese with Japanesepod101. In fact, you can't get good with Japanese with Japanese From Zero. You have to understand that the person in charge of the books didn't even know pitch accent existed until recently.
@@masa5300 But this is my problem with that common argument. You can't get good with just Japanese pod 101, Japanese from Zero, Duolingo, or any other single resource. But those that say they use these resources are unlikely to be using it alone. Like Oriental Pearl was basically saying, it's a supplement. Immersion is the most important thing. Watching target language content, reading target language books, and stuff like that. However, it's nice to have certain difficult grammar concepts broken down by someone else. Sometimes it's nice to have some easy immersion material from Japanese pod 101. I don't see how this is so bad, if you're doing it wisely.
Matt, hi! Gustavo from Brazil here. Not gonna lie, these day have been tough for me (I think for most people in the world) but although this video is super old as u said u just opened my mind. There are a lot of things on the internet and I everything this days is about to subscripts and fees and whatever shit is out there, you wind up wasting a lot money and most importantly your TIME doing these things that will NEVER work. And I know they'll never work because I've seen some examples that made the begin to think some people claim to be what they're not and I got really sad because of that, DEPRESSED! your video just put the stamp down for me.
I really like to learn Japanese as well but right now I'm in a battle against the English language barrier and I'm gonna be honest with you I've been jumping from method to method and I still make a lot of mistakes when I open my mouth it seems I have to keep think every time and put a lot of effort like struggling not to stutter it's like your mind is begging for mercy or something...
I was beginning to feel really tired but recently I heard about Stephen Krashen and his work and also this website you mentioned on your video Antimoon. I guess I'm gonna have to trust them or maybe give up of my dreams
Excellent choice of BGM throughout. . . and excellent taste in anime if the desktop at 3:29 is to be believed.
JapanesePod101's transcripts are FULL of typos. The day I heard a native speaker of English say *INTERPRETATOR* on their show was the day I knew I couldn't rely on them or their resources, let alone expect them to help me truly learn Japanese.
Thank you, Matt-san.
I can't say anything about JapanesePod101 and their transcripts, but Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone. *"INTERPRETATOR"* is the type of mistake anyone can make with any word, even natives. I know I've made mistakes in English, which I'm fluent in - it's one of our official languages, and my home language. I've heard friends, teachers, everyone, make a mistake in spoken language. It's no reason to distrust the person.
Guess I should unsubscribe from them!
@@princessthyemis Not necessarily. Just uses other sources more
@@princessthyemis yeah you should. Nobody gets good at Japanese with Japanesepod101.
I’m trying to learn Japanese so I can speak to my grandparents, their English isn’t great and they’re getting old. I want to be able to converse with them before they get too old haha!
Beautiful reason, have some selfish reasons too for those difficult days xD
I come back to this video every few months... It always helps keeping me going.
Its cool to see someone smart like you, who understands the value of understanding "trust" and"science". I highly appreciate pll like you. Thanks for soreading this knlwledge through the world.
I see that Kara No Kyoukai folder up there at 3:20. Truly a man of culture. I wish we could one day get a full, proper English translation, but I've already started learning Japanese, so I'll meet in the middle I guess.
Thanks for sharing, I originally got learning from AJATT but been trying to find other helping stuff to build up a good arsenal. I've only recently just tried stepping into "all out" mode with converting everything into Japanese and trying to get my hand on as many Japanese things as possible
アリックス・ローズ how is it going now?
yeah how is it going now?
Yeah how’s it going now
yea,, hows it going
Yea, how is it
Matt's earlier videos are more savage. I love it.
"Olivious to Suckage"
"Science, AKA applied linuistics"
@@victorrichardi I just noticed that and laughed.
I remember showing a clip to someone more proficient at the language, and he pointed out a few errors and contradictions in the examples given. Haven't used jpod ever since.
Awesome thanks!
My mom pretty much did this with English. She moved to Canada, went to those introductory classes and used textbooks for a couple months to get some overview of the grammar, then just started to hang out with English speakers, consume English media and work in English. She was already able to speak at what was likely a high level a few years later, and by the time I was born (8 years after she moved), she was likely totally fluent. Nowadays her accent is minimized, she knows tones of colloquialism and expressions and can follow pretty much anything.
She was able to get a job in her country as a "native English speaker" because they thought she was Canadian, a friend of mine who's the same ethnicity as her thought she was a Canadian too.
Love the K-ON background music! XD
I’ve been learning Japanese through anime and reading and it’s so fun, I just put all the words I don’t know into an Anki deck and the bam, I learn the word within a week. My dumbass tried starting with 走れメロス as my first book, NOT A GOOD IDEA! The kanji in that book was way too complex for someone still missing basic words, I switched over to ジャックと豆の木 and learned words way faster, it also helped that it was a book I had already read in English so when I saw words in that book I kind of just put them together instantly
The K-ON background music convinced me.
I learned English, by reading some mangas in English over and over again. And now I'm fluent in English. Gonna do the same trick with japanese
I am a small child from the Netherlands
And i learned english in the exact same way i learned dutch
I listend, and i think that you should do so aswell
I learned dutch by listening to the people around me
I learn english by watching youtube videos
You dont need to be told the word order in a langauge to learn what it is
All you need is to listen and remember
When the word or sentence you heard comes back it will provide more context
Learn like you dont intend you
You can trust that it works by thinking of how you learned your first language
jup, mee eens.
alleen luisteren in het japans kan soms wel erg ingewikkeld raken, tenzij ze gerustellend en met een wat eenvoudiger woordenschat hun zinnen toepassen. in ieder geval, hoe gaat jouw proces tot nu toe?
If what you say is true, then you have pretty near perfect english just from listening.
I was the same with polish and english but it doesn’t work that well with more languages (when you’re older)
Dutch and English are very similar and closely related. The listening method works well when the grammar is mostly natural to you and you can understand a decent amount of vocabulary, but not when it's as foreign as Japanese (at least in the beginner stage).
Guy Withaname | yeah, along time ago they were both the same language, proto Germanic, but for Japanese, the word order may need some study
Matt you say it’s key to immerse in quality content that can pair my current understanding of japanese... so for example if I’m currently a beginner reaching intermediate level would watching terrace house in full japanese be a good resource? If not, what resources would you recommend?
Great informative video dude. Could you make a video on topics such as what to do if you can't find a sentence for words you learn, which words you come across are worth learning, and how to tell if a word you're trying to learn is the same as the one in a sentence you found? I looked up 情けない because I heard it a couple of times, but in the Japanese dictionary I just get 情け. Same thing with words in definitions...when I look up the words I don't know like you suggested in your monolingual transition video, I sometimes can't tell if it's the same one in jisho because the form changes when I paste it in lol. Also, about how long into this sentence method were you able to actually understand things like anime and manga etc...any tips you can give would be greatly appreciated
pokefans123 Since you are sentence "mining", ideally all words you learn you will have found in a sentence. This is effective since you know the original context, helping you understand the word to a deeper degree (this is also why pre made decks are bad). When you must learn a word you don’t have a sentence for, you can open a bunch of aozora books notepad++ and search them at once (like I show in my how to make SRS cards video) or simply just search the word in google and flip though looking for a good sentence.
I explain in my monolingual transition video that if you come across a word at least twice, it is probably worth learning it. You can also take into consideration the sentence you found the word in: if you think this sentence is ideal for learning the new word, go for it. In the end you will have to learn all the words anyway, so it doesn't really matter that much.
“rikaichan” is a good way to identify the word you are looking at. In the J-J dictionary, you need to search with either ALL possible kanji or NONE. In the case of 情けない, you need to search ALL kanji (情け無い) or NO kanji (なさけない.) If you are having trouble finding the word, try searching all hiragana by default. Also keep in mind that in the J-J dictionary, there is only ONE entry for each word, unlike jisho where you find multiple forms of the same word. This means that if you find a word in the J-J, you have found the word you are looking for. If you are not sure whether an entry in jisho is the right one, you might want to try finding it the J-J first to check; in the J-J it will always be in its non-conjugated form.
Remember, in AJATT you do most of your learning through immersion; only doing sentences will get you nowhere. What will determine how long it takes you to understand anime and manga completely depends on how long you actually spend watching anime and reading manga. Plus within “anime” is a huge range of different genres all with different difficulties. I could understand some slice-of-life stuff no problem a few months in, but science fiction took years. Everything else was somewhere in-between.
Thanks for replying as always. I also watch animes that have Japanese subtitles...I paste all of it onto a word document and search for the words that I hear repeatedly. When I find words I want to learn, I look them up on a Japanese dictionary, but I get my sentences from jisho.org based on which one makes the most sense. What are your thoughts about getting sentences from jisho to make the cards?
pokefans123 If you are searching a subtitle file for the words you hear repeatedly, then can't you just use the whole sentence from the subtitle file? Sentences from jisho are usually kind of unnatural plus you don't have any context haha.... but as long as you get enough immersion it shouldn't cause any problems.
That'd be great dude! Would you mind if I ran you through my whole situation because I honestly think I haven't been studying with the right method lol...it's been like 10 months since I finished remembering the kanji and that was the only real progress I made, so I'd really appreciate getting your advice since you're a total boss haha
My favorite K-ON ost is playing on background of this video!!
Did I just see Umi from Love Live?
俺はエミリアが好きだ literally why i clicked on the vid
俺はエミリアが好きだ th-cam.com/video/Exwla-oKedQ/w-d-xo.html
i liked that scene
@@user-et7xz4eu8s Hahahahahhahaha
僕もエミリアが好きww
@@silvermovie6823
俺はずっとレム派だと思ったら
実はただの永遠のいのりん派です
だって、ね…
th-cam.com/video/r4oc12eMazE/w-d-xo.html
2:17 destruction 98% 🤣🤣
Starting the video roasting Japanese pod 101 right out the gate
never liked their site, because even though they had a lot of helpful material, it was literally all over the place. nothing is categorized, there's isn't like a level 1 to level 2 or "start here and gradually work your way up" you literally have to figure out for yourself the best say to gradually understand everything which is why Japanese pod 101 frustrated me.
the worst part about this video is that he has his bookmarks sorted by color
The fu k why this channel is so underrated
Can I just ask where do I start when learning a new language? Should I start with learning the basics of the language and the grammar or should I just go straight to memorizing phrases and words with anki and immersing myself with the language?
This is late so you probably already know the answer, but for anyone who might come across this
Trying to learn a language by learning grammar first is not a good idea imho, it's important to know how grammar works in your target language but it's no use when you can't speak or understand anything yet, some people can do it but personally I've never met someone who learned grammar first, most people start out by learning a little bit of vocabulary in context and then when they can understand some things and understand very simple sentences they start studying grammar
There's no way you "should" start, just really set your own goals and experiment a bit to find out what works for you, all I can say is that consistency, along with having fun, is what's important.
@@wearelegallyrequiredtoeatd3580 thanks man now i know where i can start when learning new languages
@@impewpew_xd9484 You're welcome! I didn't mention it in my first comment but it's also important to immerse yourself in the language in the way that's most fun to you, movies, music, shows, reading, whatever it is it's also very important for language learning and at least for me I'd say 2-3 hours of immersion will always be best than just sitting down and studying ( of course studying is still important)
@@wearelegallyrequiredtoeatd3580 yeah thanks
I believe, just my own opinion, the people who give out misguided advice, even though they at a novice level, want attention. They are aware they are not good, but are seeking out fake praise as their own form of a participation trophy. The positive comments they read allow them to forget/avoid how much work they need to do. It is quite self defeating. They are reading the comments to feel good about themselves in their L1, which is taking time away from legitimately improving in their L2.
I saw a popular blogger who dressed cutesy and talked Japanese. It seemed that she knew Japanese. Now that she is older she cringes at her old videos. She said that she had her Japanese teacher dictate word for word what to say in her video. It seems that her other blogger friends did learn Japanese, but she didn't. I like it that she was honest about it later on. At least she came clean about it.
@@lindavel43 whats the channel name?
The GOAT 💯
Matt while your videos are always filled with great information on the given subject, I'm somewhat sad that you don't include the names of the great background music you choose for the videos.
You can find the names of the songs I used in the description of all my videos from the last year
Did you watch videos with subtitles in English or Japanese and read along until you didn’t need them anymore? Or did you just watch without subtitles?
So who should we learn
Man I love this video lol
Nice space dandy music
My place literally has no Japanese natives and I don't earn enough to just casually go to Japan for the purest form of immersion, all I can do is just immerse myself in Japanese media. Might be painfully long before I get the result I want but I'm doing my best.
Same.
Sounds like a pain. You got this tho
Japanesepod101 OMEGALUL
Why don't you do something better then you piece of shit? instead of disrespecting other peoples work and efforts
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess Oh no, he might hurt the feelings of a multi-million dollar corporation. Whatever will we do?!?!
I bought Frenchpod101 because it was 1$ dollar and I was curious. I could not be more frustrated. This course is awful. Seems like the Google translate decided to build a course.
@@lucasrba Google translate
@Matt vs Japan But Japanesepod101 has immersion material too. They give conversations to listen to. Is that not good?
It might be good in the very beginning but it shouldn’t be something you stick to for too long. I haven’t looked at it but I’m assuming it’s really slowed down and simple speech targeted to Japanese learners. The earlier you start consuming real native content, the better
@@invaderchriss It's not that slowed down, and they give conversations, most of which I can't understand. So it's clearly not just for beginners. You should check it out. And let's not forget that just like most resources, JapanesePod101 is just a supplement, not the main course. I listen to real native content as well.
Have you changed your opinion on this since reviewing SGJL by NukeMarine or do you stand by the advice not to follow SGJL just because NukeMarine is not a high level?
I haven't changed my opinion at all; perhaps you didn't pick up on the nuance of it. Just because someone is bad at Japanese, doesn't necessarily mean that their advice will be bad (as long as they still claim that their Japanese is a work in progress; if they are claiming to have 'beat the game', then that's a different story). The point is that if the person is not good, there is no way for you to KNOW if it's actually good advice or not (this was the biggest point I make in this video). Nukemarine understands this, which is why he asked me to critique his methods on camera. Coming from a very similar philosophy, I happen to agree with Nukemarine on a lot of things (although disagree about a bunch of things as well). You can view the video here: th-cam.com/video/DR0_cOH-d14/w-d-xo.html
I understood that I cant know if it is good advice that is why I am asking you and I watched the video, and understand your various critiques. What I want to know is, do you recommend the course for a beginner?
It should have been clear if you watched the video, as I stated my opinion many times. I think the most efficient way to learn Japanese is to use the version of AJATT that I espouse, but if that is too intense for you or you don't have enough time to make that work, then Nukemarines courses may be a better option.
Can your AJATT method be scaled to 50% for those that are time poor?
I don't know, as I haven't tried it and I don't know anyone else who has. in the video I speak about the possibility of the method breaking down if you don't have sufficient immersion
what's the song tho? man this shit is good
i´ve always been tying and trying and trying ONLY to learn ENGLISH but now... i´m learning japnese and I already learned english
How many hours did you use to immerse actively?
3
I would recommend 24 hours a day
Shots fired against Japanese pod 101
サムネ、うみちゃん！！
Good music
Olivious to spelling errors.
Olivious to the description of the video
@@mattvsjapan Matt-Sama! Love ya. Hope my jest didn't dig too deep into ur skin ;)
Gracias al que hizo los subtitulos en español XD
0:39 linguistics
Applied linuistics
It’s interesting because I taught English in Japan and the amount of coworkers who never learned Japanese but are supposed to give advice to esl students when they never learned a language is scary..
I'm only willing to listen to the advice of people whom I know had shitty mental predisposition, yet still managed to make it far.
The title got me.
I love applied linuistics.
*Olivious*
It took me 4 years in actual native school and an extra 2-3 years after that to fully use English grammars correctly…95% of the time.
Now, I had just started Japanese because in 5 months, I am going there for work. I am in dread 😢
rip to julia
How to learn how to learn how to learn Japanese: watch this video
How to learn how to learn how to learn how to learn Japanese: read this comment
A lot of these videos/channels seem to have the view that it's 'native level' language skills or it's pointless, the vast vast vast majority of people would just like to get to a basic conversation level
Agreed, but would you expect less from someone who dedicates their life so much to language learning that they are compelled to expound upon it on TH-cam? I also have to say that the view that only people who have risen to absolute fluency in a foreign language are qualified to offer advice is a bit naive and quite frankly, disrespectful. Wisdom is gained through a combination of critical thinking and trial and error, not through seeking out and blindly accepting the word of so called experts. It's like the old kung fu movie trope where an eager student will only accept instruction from someone who bests them in a fight. Anyone can have knowledge of value, and experience/success does not necessarily equate to teaching ability.
@@KoshoShinogi The point of 'the fluency illusion' was to illustrate that beginners can easily be scammed. He's not saying "only people who have risen to absolute fluency in a foreign language are qualified to offer advice". You're putting words in his mouth. If I'm wrong I'd like a timestamp because I can't find where he says such a thing. He's saying do your due diligence. Test people. Don't just listen to somebody because they like to talk.
@@Kojitsu He says it at 1:40, just before expounding on the fluency illusion. He even provides a further example of not taking dieting advice from a fat person. This is not taking into account context. They may indeed be offering good advice which they themselves are not following for possibly legitimate reasons, or they may not be far enough along in their diet for an outside person to notice the transformation. Put back into the context of language learning, say you're a complete beginner and taking a test in a language class. One of your classmates, also a beginner, offers to help you study for the test. Are you going to reject the aid of every student in the class because they aren't fluent? That seems to be exactly what Matt is saying here. The "fluency illusion" is a tangential topic, describing how the uninformed can perceive someone as an expert who actually is not. However when it comes to taking advice from someone, whether or not they are an expert is irrelevant. Using critical thinking skills, we can learn from anything we are exposed to. That's an opinion obviously.
Olivious suckage lmao thanks for the vid tho
You can trust the diet advice of a fat person if the advice is sound. It's not about trusting the messenger. Although this is what normies do because they don't know how to vet the validity of information so they vet the person conveying the message instead. I know this is baby matt when he first started out doing youtube and I'm pretty sure he wasn't even an adult in here but I just had to clap him for that not-so-good statement. Love you matt.
Oomi
Step 1: cry looking at the grammer rules
0:34 */ˈtɹʌst/
You're probably right, but what's the difference between the schwa and /ʌ/?
@@confusedowl297 In your accent, they're probably merged.
@@tompeled6193 That would explain a lot! I guess we just like to merge vowels here on the west coast, since the /ɒ/ and /ɔ/ vowels are also interchangeable.
This feels like Ethos, Logos & Pathos (Kairos as well)
rei is so cute
イェイ
Love khatz : )
What's wrong with you
@@mattvsjapan ?
@@Asdayasman All of that guy's videos totally went against all of AJATT's principles.
@@mattvsjapan Oh Baka Proof's is? I get it.
It doesn't take a fit person to know how to get fit lmao, that's a horrible comparison. Language learning is a lot more complicated than not being fat in the actual actions you have to take
Tf 8 years video
this guy spittin straight facts
I respect the method, kudos for mentioning SK, but you should be careful when debunking other people to make sure your own presentation is error-free. There are plenty of TH-cam "polyglots" who are A1 at best selling books and courses. These folks should be ashamed of themselves. Then there are people with advanced degrees in LinGuistics ;) who are not oBlivious to science, but rarely demonstrate their ability versus their knowledge. Finally, we have people like you and Luca and Mike Campbell who are all very different but have achieved an exceptional level in one or more non-native languages. There is room for all in the language learning and teaching community, and debate is crucial for expanding the frontiers of the art as long as we remember to respect each other. The MIA (*Matt's Incredible Approach*) is a very interesting method applicable to learning many things. Keep up the great work.
Wait how is Japanese pod 101 bad? It's just input... Plz respond
It contains more English than Japanese, and the Japanese is fake baby Japanese
Matt VS Japan oh I see but what about for example the advanced lessons where it just has a 5-minute recording and and then "thank you for listening!" At the end, that's basically just Japanese input except for a couple seconds of English...
Ok well at that point, why don't you just go listen to some real Japanese then? You don't need "lessons" to acquire a language.
Matt VS Japan that's a good point! Thank you
@@mattvsjapan But then it wouldn't be bad to listen to right? I don't understand the issue. Immersion is immersion, is it not? And wouldn't "baby Japanese" be exactly what beginners need, in addition to more complicated content? Not everyone picks things up as fast as others. I'm a slow learner, so normal speed Japanese is nice, but I like to supplement with easier to hear content as well.
If you’re going to learn English from a web site which polish guys said they wrote i think you are naive.
Why, elaborate? It's a method they came up with for acquiring english.
Now how to learn how to learn how to learn Japanese
You have to learn how to learn how to learn how to learn how to learn Japanese beforehand.
8年前の動画なのにサムネが見える子ちゃん
mad typos in this video
My guy Matt throwing shade at fake Japanese speakers and fat people 👌
This video is savage. Damn.
This imbecile was shitting over other people's efforts. Karma will come his way soon
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess ahahaha found some butthurted 101 zombie
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess To be fair this video is from 2015, Matt has changed a LOT since then.
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My goal is to wach anime without subtitles
same
Before I found this channel, I thought I had to learn Japanese to watch anime without subtitles. Turns out, I had to watch anime without subtitles in order to learn Japanese
@@lolozo214 ahahahah so true
So your goal is to watch anime without subtitles.... soooo for that you should study japanese through a lot of comprehensive input that you like.
That means to watch anime without subtitles you gotta watch anime without subtitles, isn't that nice
@@lolozo214 Or anime with Japanese subtitles.
@@DANGJOS honestly that's the strat. Working pretty well so far
So I saw that you caught your own error in the word "oblivious". But I think you also forgot the "g" in "linguistics". 🙂
I think that's just his accent. Like when Americans don't pronounce the T in "mountain"
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What if I don't know any native Japanese speakers?
Watch the same Japanese movie at least 100 times.
@@gordonbgraham does that really work? And do you seriously mean to re-watch it about 100 times?
@@user-cg7cv9iu7x yes...and yes
@@gordonbgraham ok, I'll try it :)
@@user-cg7cv9iu7x Good luck. Keep in mind you don't need to sit and watch it intently. I recommend watching it in English the first time, then after that watching it only in Japanese. After watching it once or twice you only need to put in the DVD and go about your daily routine...allowing the background chatter to be absorbed naturally. Then after about 2 or 3 months try sitting down and watching the movie with focus. 頑張って！
Another tip is to go to Japan, but if you can't, then be consistent at least. Learning a language takes multiple years. The girl at 2:03 is pretty good at Japanese now
Well anime make me learn English so time to learn Japanese...
So sad
@@fgv3357 why? hahha
@@oneday5795 the trend of replacing japanese words with cool english words. That's bothersome if your intent is to learn japanese.
@Alfredo Müller Etxeberria i think if you start because of anime that's fine, but find something else because you're going to outgrow that media someday like you said.
Anki is instant gratification, learning words is so easy it can become an addiction.
but i really like japanesepod101 and it actually helps me a lot... you're saying that everyone has some kind of different way of studying japanese, and then you say this.
Get fluent with JapanesePod101 and tell the same thing again. 100s of thousands of people use JP101 but no one actually gotten good with it.
@@sidma5661 because it can't be the only sourse of studying. it's a helping tool. i used it a lot while getting ready for jlpt n3, and it worked pretty well for me personally.
@@katerynasmykovska7837 If you are studying for the JLPT, then you are already doing it wrong. Did it help you understand the media (aka real Japanese) you consumed? That's the question you should be asking. JapanesePod101 has very little Japanese, and too much English. If your goal is to reach true fluency, then just watching anime and other medias raw will make your progress faster. But if your goal is just to pass the JLPT N3, then sure, go for it.
If you think if you passing JLPT would make you fluent, then I recommend you to watch this video, if you haven't already: th-cam.com/video/k5t37q1neC4/w-d-xo.html
Sidma wait, i’m using japanese pod 101 to learn radicals and basic kanji. should i be using something different? or should i switch to something more better?
how are you doing now lmao
Nope, i disagree on the beginning with matt, Yes with Japanese pod101 alone is not the right way to achieve fluency in Japanese, but Japanesepod 101 helped me at the beginning stages. I wouldn't talk down on them because that's just their business and it also reassured me that a Japanese native was teaching me at the beginning. So i don't see the reason for the public shaming
I like your videos, dude, but it was pretty shitty of you to rag on another TH-camr without concealing the video or the name of the channel. She was t trying to teach anybody. It looks like she was just practicing. I found the video you were referencing and the comments are now turned off, probably because of this video.
sucks to suck ig
I've been researching into speaking Japanese and found a great website at Japanese Magic Method (google it if you are interested)
Bashing children again, that their jpn sucks ? xD
2:00 Wow, roasting a 14 year-old girl. Good job, Matt!
who cares how old she is?
Matt punches down without actually explaining how she sucks at Japanese. “Her pronunciation is bad”; “Her sentences are unnatural”; giving any specific criticisms would be good. Why use her as a bad example and not actually explain why she is a bad example? Don’t use an example to demonstrate if you’re not even going to comment on it. There’s no education value in it.
And it very much does matter whether you are insulting a child or an adult on a public platform.
I don’t have an issue with or even disagree with what Matt is saying, but the way he chose to present it bothers me.
@@Rs2006REMAKEVids Just so you guys know, I was joking with my comment. Her Japanese is not at the level to worth explaining.
Then don’t use her as an example? Seriously, what value is there in using her as a bad example when the only thing he can say about her is that “she sucks”? I wouldn’t even be making it an issue if she wasn’t highlighted for such a significant portion of the video. Matt could have listed a few specific things to watch out for in general for these types of videos, and then I would be fine for highlighting her specific video for 30 seconds.
@@Rs2006REMAKEVids This video is almost 6 years old. Matt is a much better person now.