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The Origin of the Israel/Palestine Conflict (Simplified) - Part 2
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Watch part 1 here: • The Origin of the Isra...
This video is the story of the origin of the conflict between Israel and Palestine that we see to this day. We cannot understand the war between Israel and Palestine, nor how Hamas came to be, without understanding the origin of Israel itself.
We will discuss Plan Dalet, Operation Nachschon, and how it lead to the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, often referred to as "Nakba", in 1948 and 1948. This is crucial to understand the ongoing conflict in Gaza today!
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These are some of my most used sources, and recommended readings:
Ilan Pappe - The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
Rashid Khalidi - The Hundred Years War on Palestine
Benny Morris - The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited
Sami Adwan, Dan Bar-On, Eyal Naveh - Side by Side, Parallel Histories of Israel-Palestine
Nur Masalha - Expulsion of the Palestinians, The Concept of "Transfer" in Zionist Political Thought,
1882-1948
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It's not Gaza. It's Palestine.
Will there be a part 3?
@@DruckerYTA Not for the time being, maybe at some point
@@ThingsICareAbout 👍
why are you only making videos depending on only Palestinian propaganda? What about Israel side? They don't count?
Animator here, Hope you guys enjoy part 2
Good Job Cam
Excellent animations
Yeah man. thx for your hard work as well
@@brianalexanderfrei1217 Thank you
@@deimos5177 Thank you
@@Cam_AJR nice animation,not much adherence to the facts(12:58 qoute is wrongfully attributed to ben gurion when it was said by ezra danin) and of course omission of many attack by the arab sides against hebrew communities and pogroms against mizrahi communities across the muslim world prior to 1948.
oversimplified: "its impossible for an animated history channel to make a video every few months"
Things I care About: *hold my beer*
This guy is not near the quality of oversimplified and has very clear and obvious biases.
"i disagree, so it's not as good" @@MidnightToker2011
@@MidnightToker2011, oh no. TICA is not pro-Western. It's the end of the world, not.
Oversimplified works alone.
Well, Oversimplified is funnier, has better information, more historically accurate, and has less biases.
Oh boy, the sequel to the highly anticipated, controversial topic of Israel and Palestine. Seriously though, keep up the good work, because a lot of people avoid this subject quite often. 👍
And people wonder why the Palestinians are pissed off. I hate this world.
what ? its their pronlem bru they lost
@@user-ce1zb9vb9b Fascho
their fault for losing
Well they’ve lost nearly every single major modern war with Israel, so it makes sense.
@@humanfrommars882It isn't even a fair fight and they didn't loss they just don't have soldiers just militia u don't even know what u talking about so stfu and go cry to mommy
For the people claiming that this video is biased:
1: this video is not based on a single source. You can check the description
2: Two of the sources are by isreali historians.
Calling Ilan Pepe, the most anti Zionist anti Israeli “historian” an Israeli historian as a pretext for an unbiased view is worse than not using them at all. The narrative presented here is extremely biased and one sided
Yeah that’s not exactly correct. One major example is Ilan Pape that earned the unfortunate nickname of “the Israeli lord haw haw”. Whose book is unfortunately riddled with errors and lacking historical context. Now I don’t want to go rambling on about the politics of Israeli historians as it’s annoying and there are people far more knowledgeable about that subject than me. But what I can tell you for sure is that every single source mentioned is written from the Palestinian narrative, so you’re not seeing the full picture, only half of it.
@@nadavstein4471 He literally took sources from the Virutal Jewish library. He took sources from both sides🙄
@@Ashad636I dunno dude, I would know slot less then you but there was a out 4 times in this entire video where he said that it was based on Israeli testimony, none of it defending or justifying the Israeli actions
the only one saying it is biased are blatantly racist zionists who arent even hiding the fact that they are
You fill the gaps oversimplified leaves for us 😅
Stop suking on OS he’s old news he’s way better not whitewashed no propaganda nothing
@@Under12400 chill, he isn't suking on OS. he was making clear that OS missed a few things that got cleared out in this video
@@Under12400Geez, take it easy… It’s just a history animation
@@Under12400 This channel is clear propaganda for arabs but ok
@@RomanUrbanek
I mean if you want every content to be anti Arab, and if someone said Arabs were right for a sec then it's propaganda, you need to hold your racism a little
Moral of the story dont leave the brits with important lands.
Brits had no say so. This was a Rothschild plan fueled by the greed of oil in the region.
But we didn't, they left the land.
@@7stormy334 fair
@@7stormy334 Who left the land?
@@KnucklSandwich the Brits I just pointed out that the original comment implied that the British held important lands and that the reason they controlled it caused all the issues which is not entirely true. It certainly didn't help with all the issues.
The pro Israelis are saying that this is one sided and is pro palestine , most of the sources were from jewish diaries and books , even the oppressors wrote about what happend and you say it is one sided ?
You have to use multiple sources of historical material and not assume Ilan Pappe's material to be accurate.
@@callistoscali4344 the point is that Israeli supporters state that the sources were pro Palestinians, which btw most of them were from Zionists as you can see from the video
@@callistoscali4344 Yeah that irritated me too. Just using this one book.
If you did that in an essay, you would get an F.
The problem with this video that it uses Ilan Pappe as a source. Which he has been largely disproven in his work.
@@Wh0re_1234 by whom? don't give me a pro israel source because they disprove anybody who hates them
This doesn’t acknowledge that “Palestinian” included EVERYBODY who lived under the mandate (including Jews) until 1964.
Why does it matter? It’s not about race, it’s about the fact that one side is continuing to commit atrocities and another is trying to exist
They were Palestinians in the sense that they lived in that territory (and the region) of Palestine. When most people refer to Palestinians, including in this video, they refer to the Arab ethno-nationalist group residing primarily in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Israel, Jordan and parts of southern Lebanon and Syria. This distinct ethnicity developed before 1964, contrary to what some say. They often cite Golda Meir in making that argument. But the ADL has acknowledged that is mistaken and they believe she misspoke and actually was referring to the idea of Palestinians arguing for their own independent state.
That land has shifted hands for many years, jews do have a legitimate historical claim to the land. You loose the war territory is lost its been that way like forever.. am sure if the Arabs would have won the war with Israel 💯 there would be no jews and Israel would not exist
Yep and it's been like that from the start. If the Palestinias would just lay down their weapons they could actually form a country in Gaza.@@glaceo_o229
@@glaceo_o229 The Arabs have been offered land to peacefully coexist five times. They don't want that. They want to exterminate the Jews... And the Jewish response is to defend themselves. Get used to it.
Imagine being prosecuted in Europe for so long that you feel the need to do the same to another group that had absolutely nothing to do with it all.
Imagine beliving a biased video of someone that based his entire video of a book written by a radical anti-zionsit that his work was disproved XD
@@shachar9111
How was it disproven when ITS A FACT. So youre saying al-nakba didnt happen??
How emotionless and racist can you be to say that?? You disgust me.
This whole conflict is basically. "He hit me, so I hit him back" over and over and over. I REALLY hope we can live here like human beings and break the cycle.
Its impossible tho. Slightly possible but mostly impossible.
Each side has a want. And theyre not stopping until they get what they want. And if one side gets their want then the other side doesnt get their want. So its an endless cycle.
yeah. refugees come in, u welcome them. They rob you, you retaliate, some other person defends the robber, and so on.
easy to see it as a endless cycle of violence
but its a cycle of violence started by the colonization of palestine by zionists
Well thank god this is a traceable human conflict and not ancient history, we can easily identify who was the one that started this whole conflict.
@@ammarmohamed3583 my point is that it doesn't matter who hit first. Just stop freaking hitting each other.
We are basically playing here the prisoners dilemma and no one trusts each other anymore.
Are we willing to bet that everyone who said „TICA is biased" wouldn't have complained if the video had been pro-Western?
my issue is the fact that things like the expulsion of the Jews of Jerusalem was left out, in the last video he completely got early Zionism wrong (Hertzl was only a figurehead not the ideological leader)
I bet my life on this
No
Exactly these people are only mad that they got their notions and beliefs challenged
Stop lying to yourself that you have an unpopular opinion. I live in a western country and it seems that a majority of people support Palestine (in public, not counting governments). Yes, maybe if this video was pro-western then some people wouldn't be complaining, but some people still would, and much more people (including YOU) who aren't complaining on this video would be complaining.
There’s a bigger war in the comments of this video then in Palestine rn 😂
I wouldn’t say that
@@qhawegraham826 why
@@qhawegraham826I think he was making a joke
@@qhawegraham826
I would.
Pal did it to iztzzelf.
UN guy casually ignoring that the lands he gave arabs were cities primarily populated by the arabs "70% of the land", while the areas granted to israel had much higher jewish concentrations of population. Disingenuous to assume "70% of the land should go to the 70% of the citizens", thereby forcing a population swap based off of the numbers, and not where people were actually located in that moment.
It wasn't just to "make up for the guilt of the Holocaust". Although that was definitely part of it, that's very simplistic.
It had something to also do with actual concentrations of citizens by ethnicity in the British territory in that moment.
Didn't the UN put major urban centers and territories with majority Arab population as part of Israel in their partition? I'd see that as a dishonest partition.
Bruh there were literally 1 mil arabs in the Jewish zone 💀
"Although that was definitely part of it, that's very simplistic."
I mean...the title of the video literally says "(Simplified)".
i mean there were still about 800,000 Palestinians in the land, but a partition city-by-city was too much work for the UN ig
A lot of the land that was given to Israel was desert. The whole southern half of the region is essentially an uninhabited desert. This is just another common pro Palestinian talking point.
3 weeks ago israeli forces raided jenin (wich had nothing to do with the war by the way) and they went to the place where my mom works at she was at home thank god because they trashed the place computers chairs tables everything just broken oh yeah and they stole the money that was there *how is this self defence?*
Cuz brown
@user-cs2mx4lt3q because Jenin is the city where most terror attacks come from. It's not a "raid".
It's as ridiculous as saying Iraqi forces "raided" mosul
Maybe because israel is at war with terrorists?
So you wanna justify self defence Alr ottomans invasion of kingdom of Jerusalem they had killed all the people of Jews and anyone who remained was turned into a slave or kicked out justify that lil bro
Fair is fair ottomans aka Palestines colonised the lands karma hits hard doesn’t it?
I might like you a little more than Oversimplified, especially after your Vietnam video. Theres humor but you also dont take the tone/horrors of war completely out of it for the sake of humor. Not saying one is better than the other, youre both absolutely phenomenal to watch. Just my opinion
Historical background: Jews began purchasing land here when this was still the Ottoman Empire. At that time there was no cohesive Palestinian identity, but Arab nationalism began to emerge (as a response to the Young Turk movement), and they did object to the Turkish government about Jewish land purchase. But the government didn’t do much.
When the Ottoman Empire broke up, the League of Nations decided what to do with the territory, and in the interim the British were given a mandate for control of the region that is Israel today. When the Mandate ended, the UN proposed to partition the land between the Jews and Arabs who lived here. The Jews agreed, even though the proposal involved a small strip along the coast and a lot of valueless arid desert.
The Arabs refused, and launched a war. They lost. Many Palestinians fled or were thrown out, and their land was taken over by the new Jewish state. The Palestinians who remained are Israeli citizens today, they make up one fifth of the population, they had a party in the previous governing coalition, and are better off than any of their fellows in the region.
In 1967 Jordan, Egypt and Syria went to war with Israel and after six days of fighting they lost. Israel then eventually made peace with some of them. Each time we made peace with one of the countries from which we took it, we returned the land, or offered to: Egypt took back the Sinai but did not take Gaza, and Jordan did not take the West Bank. There were negotiations with Syria (between Barak and Assad Sr.) and if we had made peace we’d have given back the Golan but the negotiations failed and we are still in a state of war with Syria.
The West Bank at that time was full of Palestinians who had fled in 1948 and lived in “refugee camps” which became towns (slums, mostly). Anarchy reigned, there were gangs, and people were afraid to send their kids to school from what I read. Then in 1993 Israel signed the Oslo Accords with the Palestinians, and the West Bank was divided into areas under Palestinian control (A and B) and an area under Israeli control (C), and a Palestinian government authority was established, the Palestinian Authority (PA) with a police. The PA police instituted law and order, and the PA began to build a civil infrastructure, mainly facilitated by Salam Fayyad, a very capable Finance Minister and then Prime Minister. But the PA was corrupt and Fayyad eventually got sick of that and quit.
Meantime there was a militant Islamist faction among the Palestinians, Hamas.
Israel had established some settlements on the West Bank (and also in Gaza), and after the Israeli PM was murdered and a right wing government came to power the settlements were increased and entrenched, so that today there are nearly half a million Jews living there in Area C.
In 2005 PM Ariel Sharon decided to withdraw all Israelis from Gaza, dismantle the settlements, pull out the army, and leave it to be controlled by the Palestinians. He explicitly declared that this was in order to preclude any similar pullout on the West Bank. After the withdrawal there were elections, and people voted for Hamas as the majority party in what was supposed to be a unity government. For various reasons Hamas and the PA couldn’t come to agreement (Israel also had a contribution to that), and in 2007 Hamas seized total power in a coup, and have been ruling with an iron hand ever since, and using all their resources to attack Israel ever since. As a result Gaza is on the border of humanitarian disaster, with 50% unemployment.
Hamas is also gaining power on the West Bank, as the PA weakens.
Israel keeps tight watch on the borders, but every time the attacks subside, they are loosened. The past few years they have been more open than any time since Hamas took over, with goods flowing through (even dual purpose materials) and thousands of Gazans coming into Israel to work every day. The conception was that Hamas cared about the economy and the welfare of the people and wouldn’t attack. This proved on October 7th to be incorrect.
The only reason isreal didn't try to settle in Gaza was because of Gaza armed resistance . even today Palestinian from west bank are being expelled.
Thank you for revealing the truth!
Speaking about how the UN were making up for the holocaust while ignoring how all the arab countries were practically saying they are going to clear out all the Jews from their lands, Jews might have gotten more land, but arabs both didn't need to leave that land and it was expected the Jewish population will rise significantly (because the arabs will ethnically cleanse them), tried to watch prior video, tried to watch this video, left both early because it is pretty blatantly favouring Palestinians by hiding facts.
The problems the arab have is not with the jews, because they dont think israelis are jews, jews originally are middle eastern group who are close to arabs by language, religion, geography, and appearance, but modern israelis are athiests, and white, they are not middle easterns, but rather europeans
are you getting paid to lie?
@@nodamage8011 what is a lie here?
@@user-gf7mt3jd1n first of all jews has been running to Arabs and Muslims for protection from christians all throughout history and you are trying to paint it as if arabs hate jews and wanted to ethnically cleanse them. secondly Israel's own agents bombed jews in arab countries to force them to emigrate to "israel". but u probably never heard of this
@@user-gf7mt3jd1n literally everything you wrote is false and made up.
Moral of the story: Free Palestine
Moral of the story: Put Palestine or Israel where England is now, and then give the other the area they claim
I am morally obligated not to pick a side in this shitshow.
thank you as a palestinian i really appreciate that thanks
Mortal of story: Muslims cannot peacefully live with other communities.
@@user-cs2mx4lt3q as an israeli i have to humbly decline
another W from Oversimplified's heir
Why is this so controversial. The Palestinians were literally colonized. I understand why the Jews were desperate for a safe haven. But Britain was just doing what they were doing best then and Israel continued it.
Some people in the comments are saying this is Palestinian Propaganda
People (pro Israel) just can’t accept that they’re the bad guy. Every argument for their case is bullshit or an exaggeration
@princemonster7575
No, not really. However people saying the opposite ARE part of the JDIF
Britain doing their best? wdym
Arabs are the original colonisers
Just like the first part, its full of inaccuracies, misquotes, and everything possible to push his own bias on this supposedly "educational" video, at the obvious expense of quality and objectiveness.
I have been studying this conflict for a while now, including watching some videos about it to compare perspectives from all sides and study and understand how videos push a narrative or a bias, and I usually don't mind.
BUT what really infuriates me about this one particularly is that its aimed at people who are just beginning to understand this complex conflict (that usually takes actual effort to understanding it properly without being biased to any side) and preserving it as an educational "Oversimplified" style video, and the people watching this and learning about the conflict for the first time dont know that you are decieving them into a narrative.
Your use of outdated philosophies and concepts, that for an unbiased person who knows more than surface level will immediately flag it as a biased video, will fly right over the heads of people newer to this conflict.
You are allowed to push your narrative, but to disguise it as education is just evil.
What are some of those inaccuracies and misquotes?
Quit yapping
jesus christ i expected a actual refutal, you literally said one sentence that goes
bad video lol, cant prove why that is so
Holy shit imagine writing two entire paragraphs to deliver the message "umm you are wrong and I disagree"
Nah you guys are cooking this man 💀
this whole vid is terrifying why can’t we all just get along 😢
Well decades of Anti-semitism made some racist Jews want protection from racism.
So they did that, by going to a racist colonial state, and wanted their help to do that they do best.. Which is colonialism, on a land they may or may not have a connection to, but they themselves acknowledged the fact that the Arab Palestinians definitely did.
And because of that, antisemites started to support racist Jews to undermine the Native Palestinians.. And they succeeded.
So.. No, we can't get along, simply because the one that causes all the problems.. Basically, the western world, won't allow you to because it goes against their interests.
So if you want to stop this, be defiant towards this system and be vocal with your support for the native Arab Palestinians.
Because when it was Palestine, Jews, Muslims and Christians lived in peace and were coexisting despite Muslim Dominance.
When israel came along, the Christians and the Muslims are being killed daily, but the Jews are helping commit those atrocities. And if any Jews recognise the vile nature of it and don't want to.. They themselves are imprisoned or physically assaulted by the police.
Seriously. There's videos of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews being assaulted by the police. Context does matter but yeah remember, context of Pro-Palestinian Jews exists too
Can you make video on Bangladeshi genocide of 1971 in future
Also love your videos
He wouldn't.
@@humanfrommars882 why ?
@@Aniket-fl8qk He should make it. Absolutely no pakistani other than jahils defend or support it. Pakistan carried out a genocide the exact way the zionists carried out a genocide.
As a Bengali, I would like to see that. I feel like it’s a pretty unknown event by a lot of people, and should be given some attention.
Would love to See that. Absolutely no clue about this. 😟
2:06 Can you please provide the source to that? googled about Dayr Ayyub and that wasn't mentioned once
I think he meant dayr yasin
bruh you cant say this is not biased when the source is "the ethnic cleansing of palestine"
its not biased, its known knowldege that isreal is ethinically cleansing them...
whatever you say buddy
Its called facts @@teze2284
This is just the history whats biased? Do you think all those Palestinian exiles just left their homes out of their own goodwill or something?
He cited all the sources if you doubt it check yourself if it's biased or not then come back.
Yeah I’m Korean and I have no bias to either side. I’m just a big history buff. TICA videos has always been biased to essentially the traditionally “adversary” side with Vietnam, Korea and completing glossing over any atrocities the other side did while empathizing on the atrocities that the western powers or western backed ally did without REAL context.
This man just put the modern borders of Israel right after 1950s and glossing over multiple wars essentially started by the Arab nation to also ethnically cleanse the Jewish population.
lol this isn’t oversimplified. This is a joke at this point. A parody that shouldn’t be taken seriously.
I didn’t mind his somewhat bias take in his earlier videos, at times it was completely wrong or taken out of context but it was a refreshing.
But this one is straight lazy, misinformation and click bait to get views.
This dude needs to do a better job, yeah those flash split second captions don’t count. TICA knows what they’re doing.
Entertaining propaganda parody videos at this point. Like almost TICA thinks it gives him clout to just go against western nations. Like a rebelling child.
Unbiased videos would probably make this channel a success.
glad you recognize the bias too. they use the unreliable source of illan pappe who ,just for example , in 12:58 attributed a qoute by ezra danin to ben gurion... in the previous episode he said the 1929 pogroms ended up with 200 arabs dead without mentionning most of them died by british police while attacking hebrew civilians .he doesnt mention how the "unarmed arabs" caused from 1936 to 1939 292 security personnel and 400 hebrew deaths, he left out in this video 1947 mamila attack before the haifa oil refinery massacre,he left out the fact the brits enabled the neighboring arab countries to create modern armies while raiding hebrew militas military cahces till 1948(And in the case of jordan-they even had a british general known as jhon bagot), he leaves out the expulsion of hebron gaza and nablus hebrew community in 1929 and silwan and pekiein communities in 1938. he leaves out pogroms across the muslim world against the mizrahi communities from 1903 to 1948,he left out the fact the head of the arab higher committee- haj amin el husseini-was a nazi ss officer and brought here bosnian mujahideen units from his disbanded ss units,he left out fabuary 1948 ben yehuda street bombing and jerusalem post building bombing,he left out deir yassin stopped its neutrality before the attack on it and that 5 hebrew militants died catching the "unarmed" village,he left out all the druze arab villages and abu gush who didnt participate in any violent attack against us were not harmed. why ? because he has an agenda.
This video is clearly very pro-Israel.
@@luvitluvitbabyhow?
@@humanfrommars882 lol he’s being sarcastic
@@lLooN3yoh aight mb
Last time I was this early, it was British
I’m am late to comment but great work on this series and from now on I will do a better job at using your videos as an entry point like you said.
So all your sources in your description are biased and you just expect us to believe this?
Even Benny the Zionist historian agree with these points smarty-pants
@@ehabl8816who is Benny? Is he the most awarded historian that his opinion is righteous?
Sorry, broski, not every source that doesn't agree with your biased world view is biased. Self reflect
@@ehabl8816you haven’t read Benny Morris right?
@@knoob8109 he does admit to all of these things but he doesn't see them as wrong but necessary that's why he is a filthy Zionist
We’re there actual templars at the siege of jaffa? Since im curious
Me lookin in the comments to see if anyone translated the Spanish: 👁️👁️
7:23 The British guy said he impregnated the other guy’s sister, I think.
"I don't speak English, I'm sorry I do not understand, where is the library, I'm pregnant from your sister"
@@rouwd4wn649 LOL
Do we get part 3 or is this series done now?
When you realise it's not the Jews or the Arabs who are the villains here, but it's actually the Europeans:
So true. If Britain never entered the region, this would not happened
british*
leave the rest of us europeans out of it
@@garyborg2345
The British attacked Arabs and other Europeans
The rest of Europeans attacked Jews 💀
the jews where technically still Europeans back then. so racist
@@datredhatif Rome never entered
Dude you can’t just use one book for your source that is so blatantly one sided. I’m not a Zionist, I’m anti Israel, but it’s not possible to get a realistic image of anything if you only read one book about it from one perspective. That’s just bad history
The worst part is that a lot of the "history" the author wrote in that book has been debunked
Check the description for his sources
These are some of my most used sources, and recommended readings:
llan Pappe - The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine Rashid Khalidi - The Hundred Years War on Palestine Benny Morris - The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited Sami Advwan, Dan Bar-On, Eyal Naveh - Side by Side, Parallel Histories of Israel-Palestine Nur Masalha - Expulsion of the Palestinians, The Concept of "Transfer" in Zionist Political Thought, 1882-1948
You keep calling the Arabs "Palestinians". This is not historically accurate. They didnt take on the mantle of "Palestinians" until their defeat in the 1967 "6-Day War". Before that, they were just "Arabs".
Also, the land was never Arabian land. It was Ottoman before the Brits. The Ottomans gave the Jews permission to purchase and move into that land, which was barren and mostly unoccupied. To act like it was "stolen" is an inaccurate retelling.
He already noted this in part 1.
He just calls them Palestinian arabs for easier understanding.
Theyre still arabs in the now called palestinian land
The jews only bought less than 10% of the land. That isnt worth the 60% they got in the partition which enraged the Arab population living in the now called Palestine area.
@@tophat.commenter
Jews and Arabs owned about 7~8% each. Half of what the Jews got was the Negev Desert, the other half was the Coastline and the North. While the Coastline can be controversial as there were many Arabs and Jews there but the North Israel got was swamps in the past until the Jews developed them.
Also - in the UN borders Jews were the majority in Israel.
the bought land is nothing compared to modern day israel, in addition to the fact israel was the minority population that got a bigger share of land
@@disabledmechanic5316 but ALL the land belonged to the Ottomans, not the Arabs. So much of that land in the north was uninhabited swamp and in south, it's desert. It was barren. Nobody lived there. Can't "steal land" from nobody.
I’m going to cook some popcorn over these comments
This is so wrong and biased on so many accounts. This is even worse than the people who don't have any clue what they're talking about, because they at least don't have the ability to make up something that could sound plausible, but isn't.
The book you used for this is not only noted for its poor scholarship but also for its really bad translation of quotes (many of which you used) and its taking many things from their contexts.
For example many of the Ben Gurion quotes you used are from his journal and aren't known to be actual goals or plans, but rather the private rants of someone.
It's honestly sad how complex and convoluted this conflict is that no body does an honest explanation of it.
No offense Britain
But you really fumbled over this one
(And i wouldn’t blame you)
I love how Subway is used to represent poison😂
i like how you said that the un decided on the israel/palestine borders and gave jews more land because of the horrors of ww2, this is not true at the slightest, the un has sent neutral countries to the area for them to hear out both sides and look at their developments (called unscop), when unscop came to the land, the arabs outright refused to speak with them and say their side of the conflict, therefore unscop only heard the side of the jewish people and saw how developed their settlements were, also at the time unscop came to the israeli settlements they saw british soldiers arresting jewish holocaust survivers and felt bad for them. so, with all that in mind, unscop has decided to give the jews more land.
Fair but the Arabs shouldn't have had to do a partition in the first place it was palestinian territory and had been for around 1900 years at the time.
@@Webber_78Palestine had already been partitioned once into Jordan
@@Webber_78 and before that it was Judea and before that it was the philistines (not Palestine) see people (not you) I mean counties like to go back in time such as the USA why don't we go back to this old border such as in the Ukraine conflict. we can go way back such as Ukraine before it was the Ussr before that Russian Empire for a long time then before that polish Lithuania (split) then ottomans too and then Kiev Rus. (this is just an example) But for Palestine they aren't really a wanted people Jordan and Egypt should do something about their oversighted areas but no when Palestinians came to Jordan they tried to revolt when they went to Lebanon they as well did the same this is why no nation wants to have their people come over too organized and instead aids their people in an endless bloody war and for what? power both sides have blood on their hands.
(This was way too long of a comment)
@@FoxFighterKnox the point is the modern day Palestinians are descendants of those who lived in the land prior to the establishment of the Jewish kingdoms and their Arabness comes from a ethnolinguistic identity that was only pushed onto to them later on. So would consider the Palestinians who lived in this land more native than the strange European Jewish mixture of people claiming to be the rightful inheritors of Palestinian land. Not to mention saying that the Palestinians are a unwanted people to justify some weird agenda is the same justification the Nazis used for the jews under the guise of the Final Solution. I agree that both sides have blood on their hands as to be expected of a brutal occupation that has spanned over the majority of century, but how does the justify the sheer and terrific atrocities of the Zionists , who's atrocities were paid for and funded by the Global West. And how do you compare that to the considerably less crimes the Palestinians have committed towards the Zionists? At the end of the day there is innocent Palestinian dying this very minute due to crimes they didn't commit while the world watches on, how is this morally justified even with all the history and claims on the land aside? do you feel in your heart that the little girl who saw her parents and her siblings die in front just for her to later be obliterated by a airstrike is at least a little bit immoral? Why do we justify the death innocent when it comes to the Palestinians and the Muslims but when others are treated the same the World intervenes? "Few political forces are as powerful as lost glory and the Arab world has lots of that". There will be a revolution an awakening my friend.
@@Webber_78Arabs wouldn't have been kicked out of Jewish land, and it was never it's own country, just territory.
Saying arabs shouldn't even consider the other side is what got them to their state, they don't really get to complain that Jews should be part of their country when they were oppressing the Jews in the area for so long.
The petition was spread by means of population concentration and with consideration for the expected growth in Jewish population once the arab countries ethnically cleanesed their own Jews like they said they would.
Please do the Spanish American wars of independence!
YES! And then Pinochet, Castro, and other LA dictators
@@davidbakke9293 Castro was not a dictator. He defended his people against US Aggression. ✨💖🛠💖✨
I got a 5 on AP World. Without inspiring videos like yours, it wouldn't have happened!
Nice! Keep it up :)
@@serganta8861 Thanks man!
Got a 4 😭😭
@@notmanciv5016 Good luck next time!
I think it’s fair to describe this series as a “pro Palestinian” or at least “sympathetic Palestinian” sort of revisionist perspective. There’s much to learn here and this is well laid out but this is a very biased one-sided perspective lacking in context or balance. The sources used are extremely biased and entirely from a pro Palestinian perspective. I did enjoy the videos and learned something but also realize this is one-sided and the Jewish perspective is entirely missing from these videoes. I find this channel tends to want to provide the under-dog perspective on history which is helpful but often out of context and overly sympathetic while leaving out the negatives of that side
Most of the sources he stated are from Zionist diaries and books how is it one sided ?
@@averagenoob8867Illan Pappe is just one source.
What is left out, tell me
No it's just that Palestine don't have a side but rather just want the basic right that a human shouldn't be missing because someone elses profit , Palestine isn't a political stance but a common sense humanitarian stance which would be astonishingly simple when you consider Palestineians and Arabs in general as equal humans beings that have a right to live in their land like every single other people , it's one sided because one side is for humans who understands basic human rights and have even the bare minimum human conscious and empathy , while all other people who take the other side either know very little about the matter because of the heavily propagandited media (that's the vast majority of zionists supporters) and some people who have no empathy to others , view everyone else as inferior , don't view Arabs and Palestineians as humans but rather as a lesser creatures that's born for the purpose of serving them , using the term "human" to describe those creatures is a violation to the meaning of being a human (talking about people like ben shipro and Jordan Peterson)
Having no stance on the topic is a betrayal to humanity because silence is a form of compliance , not siding with Palestine not even with words makes person no less of a zionist and a gen0cide denier than the person who support the israeli occupation and defends their war crimes and their crimes against humanity , not opposing gen0cide not even with words is indirectly participating in it
yup,there bias is obvious too . they use the unreliable source of illan pappe who ,just for example , in 12:58 attributed a qoute by ezra danin to ben gurion... in the previous episode he said the 1929 pogroms ended up with 200 arabs dead without mentionning most of them died by british police while attacking hebrew civilians .he doesnt mention how the "unarmed arabs" caused from 1936 to 1939 292 security personnel and 400 hebrew deaths, he left out in this video 1947 mamila attack before the haifa oil refinery massacre,he left out the fact the brits enabled the neighboring arab countries to create modern armies while raiding hebrew militas military cahces till 1948(And in the case of jordan-they even had a british general known as jhon bagot), he leaves out the expulsion of hebron gaza and nablus hebrew community in 1929 and silwan and pekiein communities in 1938. he leaves out pogroms across the muslim world against the mizrahi communities from 1903 to 1948,he left out the fact the head of the arab higher committee- haj amin el husseini-was a nazi ss officer and brought here bosnian mujahideen units from his disbanded ss units,he left out fabuary 1948 ben yehuda street bombing and jerusalem post building bombing,he left out deir yassin stopped its neutrality before the attack on it and that 5 hebrew militants died catching the "unarmed" village,he left out all the druze arab villages and abu gush who didnt participate in any violent attack against us were not harmed. why ? because he has an agenda.
The start-screen is a bit misleading. It shows "Palestinians" leaving Israel. It does not show the hundreds of thousands of Jews that left Jordan. Jordan which was created, exactly like Isreal, on Palestine. Only that Jordan is a muslim country and Israel is a jewish country. And that Jordan expelled all Jews and Israel asked for all Muslims to stay. I put Palestinians in quotation marks because until 1964 Jews were called Palestinians as well and so were Christians. It was Arafat in 1964 who started the campaign of calling only Muslims in Gaza "Palestinians" to create the impression among people that Israelis or Jews are no Palestinians. The whole name "Palestine" would not exist, were it not for the Jews and their Bar Kochba uprising against the Romans. "Palestine" is literally the replacement term for "Israel". At that time the ancestors of the Gazans were not even in the country.
It is a rather cheap trick to say "... (Simplified)" and then publish a biased video.
Go back to your cave. Free Palestine!!!
Some mossad intelligence units staged attacks in iraq
20:46 templars? TEMPLARS? I did not see that coming
And also, thank you for showing your lack of depth, referencing only Ilan Peppe!
Was Benni Morris too neutral for you to quote?
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
Jews are the indigenous people of that region- just throwing that out there.
especially us mizrahis who suffered pogroms from 1903 to 1948 by pan arabs and islamists,then faced expulsion.
So that justifies genocide interesting
And also Also, Jews are people that follow in religion, not an ethnic group
@@S_L_E0_161 right,the ethnic term is yehudim/yehudaim-people from judea,or hebrews. and you have clear ethnic groups who are descendents(And are largely recognized as descendents) of the hebrews-mizrahis,sephardis and ashkenazim. the hebrews of the land of israel were a clear coherent ethnic group,much more than the ambiguous new term "palestinians' or the older one "arabs" that include people of different religions and people who oppose being labeled in such a way...
right,the ethnic term is yehudim/yehudaim-people from judea,or hebrews. and you have clear ethnic groups who are descendents(And are largely recognized as descendents) of the hebrews-mizrahis,sephardis and ashkenazim. the hebrews of the land of israel were a clear coherent ethnic group,much more than the ambiguous new term "palestinians' or the older one "arabs" that include people of different religions and people who oppose being labeled in such a way...
When is the video coming out on the Jewish perspective of the conflict?
Illan pappe is jewish
There is only one thing you miss that during nakba there was a truce for a month with a American meditation in this truce no can buy weapons but Israel buy weapons from USA during this truce
This is so bias bro
You can't see the solution when you stay at the edge of one side
I’d personally love to see a semi-sequel semi-continuation semi-moreindepthlook of your German Revolution videos looking at the last year or two of the Weimar Republic.
More specifically, the period from January 1933-August 1934 where the Weimar Republic still sort of existed and possibly could have been saved, everything after Hitler became chancellor in January 1933 to Summer of 1934 when the last remaining checks collapsed. There's sort of 5 distinct phases to it, the January-March period where everything was more or less the same it had been under prior degree governments(Hitler was chancellor, Hindenburg ruled by decree, same old), the March-July period where the Reichstag fire and Enabling act gutted what little protections existed and democracy ended (March was the communists and vocal extremists, by July even the moderate conservative parties or other right wing nationalist parties were banned), the August 33-January 34 period where the main players were all generally happy with the direction things were going(Von Papen, Hidenburg, Schleicher, and of course Hilter himself), the period from February 1934-June 1934 where Papen and Hindenburg realized things had gotten out of control and started trying to reign him in, and the final two months where the Weimar Republic went from being gutted to completely destroyed.
Those final few months were utterly chaotic. It was discovered in May Hindenburg was dying. Von Papen's marburg speech intended to reign in Hitler in June failed and lead to him losing his job. The Night of the Long Knives in July killed most of the remaining dangerous opposition, including Kurt Schleicher one of the few remaining moderates with any influence, and most of Von Papen's staff including his right hand leaving him powerless. It also wiped out the SA, the threat of which had been the main thing the Moderate faction was using to weaken Hilter(talking about the violent street thugs causing trouble to the citizens and scaring the army into thinking they were losing their jobs), now suddenly the people viewed the NSDAP as protecting them from the street violence and the Army was suddenly swinging to their side. Then finally in August Hindenburg(the only person with any power outside of the party at this point and the only guy with enough credit to keep the army on their side) died, the positions of Chancellor and President were merged destroying any hope of ousting Hilter, and Von Papen was exiled to Austria under threat of death.
Some say if Hindenburg had lived a little longer and stayed a little sharper, or if the Night of the Long Knives had failed and Röhm was able to cause significant internal issues in the NSDAP, or if Papen hadn't given Goeballs full control of Prussia's police force(thus gutting his own power base and giving the NSDAP full reign over the largest province) they MIGHT just have been able to claw back control.
If you really wanted to you could extend it to August 1932-August 1934. (August 1st 1932 was the first date the NSDAP had the majority seats, that's a sort of power even if they were refused chancellor ship. Goring was also made Leader of the Reichstag as a compromise which was one of the highest positions in the government in August 1932), as long as the latter period isn't neglected.
Oh and during the January 1933 onward period they actually changed the national flag to the old imperial tricolor one, it was only changed to the infamous red one after Hindenburg died
Seeing their prime ministers alnd whapt they did alone should give an idea of how horrible these people are and they have zero right to any grain of dirt in palstine
That's because this video essentially animates Ilan Pappes anti-Israel book. Many of the things he wrote have been disproven. While Israel did commit some horrible tragedies, we must remember that they were written by someone with a clear bias against Israel. Additionally, the video overlooks the many atrocities that Israel has suffered, which he obviously did not write about.
So, you basically animated Ilan Peppe’s pro Palestinian book
Well thats the truth. Its the real history on al-nakba.
When zionist history is fillied with horror, ofc by defult any historian and resource used as accurate as it get, the more chaios it will show and people will call it more biased.
Escaping from hitler only to become hitlers
Ilan Pepper the well known member of Khamas right? Not the Israeli academic historian.....
Because history doesn't support your agenda doesn't mean it's wrong.
@@hatoosy he's a hamas supporter
And he's not allowed to get into 27 european countries, and had an fbi investigation when he landed in the us. The first half had at least some sort of balanced pov, the second half shows nothing but jews massacre and kick palestinians out of their homes, with zero context.
Every clash has some missing background info and missing evidences so he basically painted it the way he felt was right or to fit his own narrative.
I was actually pretty neutral and want to see the Palestinians and jews (the ones that colonized palestine not the ones who have their ancestors living there) live together.
But after watching part one and part two, i understand now how being neutral is just a way to say you know nothing about this conflict. You're doing gods work. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸❤
This video is inaccurate.
@@sebastienholmes548 you are misinformed or just straight up lying
@@nodamage8011 no the video is highly inaccurate and biased. In part 1 it says the jews just harassed the Arabs to leave whilst a majority bought desert and swamp for highly inflated prices. Also when he talks about the UN partition plan it looks unfair because he doesn't mention that the Palestinians got the fertile land whilst the Jews got swamp and desert. It also seemingly uses the Haganah and Irgun as well as Lehi as interchangeable whilst they were all different and the Haganah was mostly filled with moderates since the Irgun and Lehi were extremists. It also shrugs off Arab attacks on Jewish settlements and even paints the supply couriers as only being military targets at 4:50
@@MrBozny you just point out things he said without refuting them. im getting serious "trust me bro vibes" from you.
settlers didnt even deserve an inch of land they should go back home to Europe or elsewhere where they came from
israel were like 200 years too late to the colonization party. maybe you could have gotten away with it back then but today we have technology to record every single one of your crimes. Israel has been exposed and nothing you say online will change that
The video is highly inaccurate and not neutral.
Origins of Russia vs Ukraine next?
Iian Pappé is a sloppy historian at best and his book is nothing more then politico-moral garbage. The book is largely accepted as dishonest.
says the butthurt internet troll with his trust me bro rethoric
He wrote it using declassified documents from the Israeli government, which no one can access today for obvious reasons, and for sure if anyone was Israeli and someone spread all that they'd have to make a little propaganda to prevent people from reading it
@@fahimishrak2731 maybe do your own research before commenting such idiotic things.
@@maxscameraguy I did little kid and every single resource including israeli media like haaretz talks about the Nakba and how zionist militias terrorized and expelled 750k palestanians. That''s a stone cold fact and ethnic cleansing deniers and genocide deniers like you are part of the problem who would've denied the holocaust too if you were alive back in 1945.
@@maxscameraguy Hey buddy, instead of trying to act like a smartass why not show us some of your own sources to disprove lian Pappe? Or are you just another butt-hurt Zionist in this comment section throwing accusations left and right with no structure or evidence?
Israels proposed territory is like 80% desert 20% fertile land
Awesome :D
Breakfast will have something interesting to watch
Thanks for the vid TICA (and Cam, animator)
Funny start btw (have not watched the rest of it))
Moral: Never let the british or the un make borders
It should be noted that Ben-Gurion despised the Irgun, he authorized the use of fire for the Haganah upon an Irgun ship.
Why go into so much details exclusively of Israeli atrocities only? Compare this to holocaust videos, which just describe the "final solution" overall, and some key camps like Auschwitz. If you truly believe Israel is completely in the wrong, do it from a non-biased perspective, and I won't argue with that.
"this is summary seems quite one-sided and uses often the words "poor palsteinins" when something bad happens to them, yet when something happens to the jews they dont get the same treatment. plus the sources you use are also only show one side of the picture. when you wish to have a real summary of a conflict, please make sure to show equeally both sides otherwise your crediablity will be brought to quastion" - is what i wrote during part 1. sadly, you chose to showcase a summary of this conflict from an arab gaze, hence the viewers here should be aware to better educate themself. make sure you study both sides of a conflict instead of chosing to spread hate.
Does it excuse the matter that it is true or false?
And also I watched there’s a video by Ben Shapiro on the history of this conflict and it is more lenient to the Israeli side so what I have done and what other people should do is to watch that video pro Israel side and then this one pro Palestinian side and come up with their own conclusion🤞🏾
@@famecandance quite a bit was indeed falsley shown, attempting to label israeli former PM as nazi collaboraters is insane giving the fact that Amin al-Husseini was a geust of honor of hitler and they shared the ideaolagy on which the current palestinin gaze consists. current palestinin leaders view themself as a modren time "salah-a-din" and wish for the death of the state of israel and all the jews whom lives there. yet none of it shows in this summary. hence why this seems like a pro-pali propaganda rather then a true summary of the conflict. please try to better educate yourself.
@@EmoZex may you please read my comment again 🤞🏾
Yeah, where is the European part in this whole conflict?
They are the one who did the bad thing to jews.
Why did other people at the end of the map have to pay the price?
@@famecandanceHe's just highlighting that this video is incredibly biased for the people who don't know.
Using Ilan Peppe as a main source only confirms that notion.
So these videos make it seem like the Palestinians are the victims throughout history.
Can someone tell me what perspective on why people say that the Palestinians did atrocities too? Maybe some examples..
(I don't know anything about this history and I'd like to hear an argument from both sides)
The video very much contradicts the version i know about the events. And although i am not biased one way or another, i can see the clear markings of propaganda all through out the video. It sounds as if they took the most demonizing version they´ve heared, and accepted it all throughout the video. But the problem about demonization is: Its almost never true.
Human beeings usually don´t kill for the fun of it, and they usually don´t shoot into crowds of civilians without any reason, like for example retaliation for a previous atrocity by the other side. The fact that no such cause is ever mentioned in the video, making it look like the 100% innocent Palestinians were murdered without reason by the 100% guilty Israelis, is reason enough for me to consider the whole video as made up propaganda.
I am a little bit more pro Israel after this video, because of that.
The partitian was trash
Both sides were victims but the zions are doing horrible things bow
@@Omega0850 yeah that's what I was thinking. These videos make the palestinians seem like the victims of Israel and the British. I would like to hear the history from an Israel supporter to see what's omitted/changed in the histories.
@@Omega0850 european jew refugees came into a middle eastern land and stole it with the use of terrorism and the help of european governments who only wanted to get rid of them. No excuses, no justification, nowhere to hide. Resisting occupation by all means is protected under international law the whole zionist project is evil, racist, and rotten to the core and has only created an unsafe racist militarised enviroment for the jews with a government that has only increased antisemetism through its atrocities. So yes, in this case the palestinians are 100% innocent and were opressed, killed, robbed, and expelled from their homeland by racist supremacists who claimed being jewish and returning to their homeland as a justification even though a large portion of them dont even believe in god
Palestinians did not go to Europe to create a country on top of an already existing population. It happened to them. Europeans came to them to create a country on their land. All that 'atrocities' are just reactions to the actual atrocities of the settler colonizers from europe.
And about that Arab-Israeli war, Israel won ONLY because of foreign support, and the statement about arabs being outnumbered is also false.
20:45 they mentioned Bosnia 🎉
This is the biggest bunch of BS propaganda I’ve ever watched.
Because the video doesn't say „The good West only want to protect freedom and democracy"?
18:10 she wears the hijab yet drinks wine? 😂
Is it done? Or will there be a third part?
The animation is very on point
But the video is extremely biased
Most of your quotes come from a single book that put the Jews in the worst light possible
An historian or someone that what to do an historical recall of events must distance himself from events and present all sides of the stories
2 of sources are israeli historians
@@talzzz1546 yes
And there are several other Israeli historian that would not agree at all with what they had to say
It is called libert of opinion and expression something that is worth noting only Israel guarantee in that region of the world to its citizens
The quote come from a single book source that is wildly considered heavy on critic with Israel and much more forgiving to Palestinian
By presenting it as single source of info you are validating their point of view and silencing everyone else
That is not doing a historical research
That is doing a profoundly biased video
If you want the mantle of historian you cannot do that
@@talzzz1546yes there are some Israelis who side with Palestine. Just like how there are some Palestinians who side with Israel
Amazing😊
So Ben Gurion is in hell?
He will be punished so hard he will wish that he was just sand
Most def
@@someonewow7053 well this is a little awkward because he’s actually a character in the book the ambassador
Where Israel became a state in 1938 and it’s about the Israeli ambassador to Nazi Germany securing Jewish immigration, and Ben actually meets with Adolf Hitler in one of the chapters
Yes
Obviously yes, i mean hes an atheist tho and doesn't care about the Torah nor the ten commandments so yeah...
Yeah ok the first part was fine but this was incredibly biased, disappointing
Cope
Pov: you don't hear what you want to hear in a video about HISTORY
Unpopular opinion: both were really biased
do a video about the Lebanon civil war
i dont think even al jazeera is so biased and anti israel as this video.
Look at his sources 😂 directly from Israeli officials
I don't see the wrong in being anti natzi
@@alsaif3386 misinterpreted.
@@ehabl8816 israel is not the Nazi.one.
also, the massacres of jews during 1912,1917,1921,1924 are not even referenced..
I’m sure that this comment section will be very calm and peaceful
This is no longer history contest. This is a Hamas propeganda. I was expecting more
The truth is Hummus propaganda
I know I am going to get dragged for this, I like this channel; it goes over a lot of events that Oversimplified doesn’t, but the narration is way too politically driven and one sided in every single video. During the timeframe of 1951-1967 Palestinian militias killed over 500 Israeli civilians in 57 separate coordinated attacks and this video doesn’t mention a single one. I’m not on the Israelis side, but you have to attempt to present a balanced, neutral review of history. This is an advocacy video, not a history lesson.
Plus he seems to speculate without evidence a lot, and most of the evidence thats used is one book referenced on Wikipedia
History is often bias.
Yeah he mentioned the attacks but its a bit of a stretch
Idk about you but almost 1 million expelled/dead arab is a lot compared to that when the political consensus at the time was to honor UN policies
@@muksimulmaad7413it’s completely void of context thou, the entire history of the conflict (and most on-going fueds between nations/peoples) is tit for tat (sp?)
By completely leaving the wrongs done by the one side any event can appear like the other side are aggressors.
@@djinnjax3274yes, which is why it is very important to become aware of bias and present a fair narration. I hope you can respect my opinion on the video because I admire the effort but it would have been even more informative if it came from a neutral observation of history.
You are aware that a huge margin of the tax money that israeli citizens pay goes to the palistinian authorities in the A and B areas. If you were to 'report an unbiased truth' as you claim you wouldn't use and present the Palestinian arabs as weak and you definitly must also present the massacres and atrocities that they caused to the jewish communities even before the state of israel was founded.
They have currently 2 seperate governing authorities, one of whom is the Hamas which is a guerrilla terror organization that is made up of self-entitled [and also presented by much of euro and west media] 'freedom fighters' that even according to the U.N. killed and raped over a thousand men, woman, children, babies and elderly people, not only jews, from many countries on the 7th of october.
So you expect to occupy a state and then not spend money on it? It is literally the law. FYI that money is going to those nazi settler whose job is to harass and oppress Palestinians. And presenting Palestinians as savages only shows your colonial intentions
If you give them all your money for a thousand years it'll still be not enough you monsters
12:58- what is attributed to ben gurion- was actually said by ezra denin according to norman finklestein and other historians(Shows how sloppy illan pappe was). palestinians were not armed ? is that so ? how did they rebel against the brits in 1936-1939 rebellion killing 292 british forces and over 500 members of the hebrew community? again with "they were using only stones" ? kaukji forces and haj amin el husseini forces(including a component of bosnian mujahideen volunteers,many served in the muslim ss units) were armed by neighboring arab countries . why? you have an agenda. in fact the british forces were arming the arab nations surrounding israel while all the way leading to their departure from the land of israel- they have raided hebrew weapons caches(while helping to create modern arab armies and even having british personnel in the arab armies-see jhon baggot). in the previous video you depicted 1929 hebron and safed pogroms as "clashes" and talked about "palestinian casualties"(british police stopping the lynchers) and then you skipped 1936 jaffa pogroms and 1938 tiberias pogroms and banishment of hebron,gaza,silwan and pekiein communities. arabs have targeted hebrew civilian communities all through that time,including sniping the yemenite grapevine neighbourhood in tel aviv and raid of mamila before the haifa distillation plant lynching .you dont mention the arab leaders calls for killing and exterminating the hebrew population(especially the ones by the nazi ss officer husseini ,head of the arab higher committee,or by leaders of neighboring arab countries,not the pogroms against mizrahi communities before 1948 all across the muslim world),and the arab high committee have officially rejected the partition plan,so where were the arab people supporting the partition?. you dont mention ben gurion peaceful coexistence plans before 1929 hebron and safed pogroms,and you qoute illan pappe rather than benny morris.
You keep talking about “Palestinians”. But Palestinians aren’t distinct from any other group of Arabs. So there is no real “Palestinian homeland”, it is just one small part of the Arab world. Palestine has never fought against Israel alone. It’s very disingenuous then (not just from you) to show the history like Israel surrounding Palestinians, when Israel has always been surrounded and threatened by a large part of the Arab world. Most external conflicts Israel has been in were defensive, and even now when Israel has normalised relations with many countries, they’re still fighting a two front war with Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Iran.
The war that happened between the newly created Israel and all the arab countries israel had less soldiers then them and we didnt get soviet aid we got weapons and planes from czechoslovakia it was part of the eastern block but not the soviet union also the rulling party with the labour party whice is social democrat and in the decleration of independence there is a call for cooperation between jews and Arabs
maybe they had more in total but among the soldiers on both sides who actually fought israel had many more than all the opponents combined go do your research
@@nodamage8011 I didn't really get what you meant by that sentence tbh but are you talking about the final numbers when Israel had over 100k man and the Arabs lost a humiliatingly funny defeat?
@@dustoreo1993 you claimed that Israel was outnumbered when they weren't.
They not only outnumbered their enemy but also outgunned them and had the advantage of surprise.
if jews were as bad ass as you're trying to portray they wouldn't have been persecuted all throughout history by the Christians.
@@dustoreo1993 they had much more than a 100k men and they not only outnumbered their enemy but also outgunned them and had the advantage of surprise.
if they are as badass as you're trying to claim then how come they always were on the receiving end of Christian persecution ? its like a boxer loosing 100 fights and then winning one and trying to act tough 🤣
@@nodamage8011 I am not trying to make it look tough I just pointed out a fact that you can legit look up in Wikipedia on the starting numbers of the war and the ending numbers including the fact that the Arab nations suffered more casualties then Israel did
I have noticed that, more controversial topic is in his video, more left leaning his narrative is.
Thank you for such great work ! been watching all your videos lately, great work and good luck for the rest !
My grandfather is older then Israel 😂
Israel is 76 years old now. How old is he ?
@@Passionate_History_Lover he's from the Golan heights it was under French occupation before Israel invaded
@@omarm803Wow, he's old...
@@omarm803 My mother is older than Palestine
@@user-kf8fl5rm3s not older then the indigenous Palistinians that lived there before her
Thanks so much for filing in for oversimplified. This is also very educative.
after seeing this video it suprises me how many cilivians where killed instead of resisting arabs and thats just awful after all it looks like the jews are taking revenge on the arabs instead of the germans
Just like how the naxis took revenge on the Jews instead of the British and the French , it's always the weak who face the consequences of what they didn't do , but was done by the stronger side who never face consequences of their own actions
Sad thing is when the Jews were being prosecuted in Europe for the killing of Jesus it was the Arabs and amazeighs that welcomed them in their homes in Al andalus and Morocco and they were usually not prosecuted in the Middle East
There’s a book by David Wasserstein a Jewish historian called “How Islam saved Judaism”
The Israelis did he just dosen’t focus on it😊
@@Ko_tada thats ignoring the fact that there were some original jews who lived in under ottoman rule in peace. they were treated more or less fairly as they only had to pay a tax versus the prosecution that jews in other european countries faced. zionism changed everything.
@@thesilentpearl8575 but Palestineians still have to pay for Europe's sins (not all European countrys but a large portion of them) why didn't the UN give Germany to the Jews it was already cut in half they might have just gave Jews half of Germany because they were the ones who carried the h0l0caust after all , if displacing innocent civilians because other people suffered then maybe they should have made the people who supported the suffering pay for it and not people form the other side of the planet (collective punishment is still f*ckd but why do Palestineians have to face it ) after all the allies controlled half of Germany and supported the creation of israel and still support it to this day with the same passion , the Soviets controled the other half and also heavily supported the zionist project , why did non of them offer the Jews a piece of Germany ????
Why should Palestineians give up their land because the Jews didn't like Europe anymore ????
You did an amazing job on this one
I LOVE THE NEW ART STYLE!!
art style is important,what about historical accuracy and neutral coverage? . they use the unreliable source of illan pappe who ,just for example , in 12:58 attributed a qoute by ezra danin to ben gurion... in the previous episode he said the 1929 pogroms ended up with 200 arabs dead without mentionning most of them died by british police while attacking hebrew civilians .he doesnt mention how the "unarmed arabs" caused from 1936 to 1939 292 security personnel and 400 hebrew deaths, he left out in this video 1947 mamila attack before the haifa oil refinery massacre,he left out the fact the brits enabled the neighboring arab countries to create modern armies while raiding hebrew militas military cahces till 1948(And in the case of jordan-they even had a british general known as jhon bagot), he leaves out the expulsion of hebron gaza and nablus hebrew community in 1929 and silwan and pekiein communities in 1938. he leaves out pogroms across the muslim world against the mizrahi communities from 1903 to 1948,he left out the fact the head of the arab higher committee- haj amin el husseini-was a nazi ss officer and brought here bosnian mujahideen units from his disbanded ss units,he left out fabuary 1948 ben yehuda street bombing and jerusalem post building bombing,he left out deir yassin stopped its neutrality before the attack on it and that 5 hebrew militants died catching the "unarmed" village,he left out all the druze arab villages and abu gush who didnt participate in any violent attack against us were not harmed. why ? because he has an agenda.
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@@user-bs9hm6gg9iGreat comment.
Please post this in the main comment section for more people to see.
@@user-bs9hm6gg9i a long paragraph!?!?
@@kimberlylewistyner2070 you have all the elaboration you need to see why i say he has an agenda and he is far from accurate.
Ridiculously one sided
If the video was pro-Western, than you wouldn't complain.
So please stop the hypocrisy.
@@ericm.8110You don’t know that and if it was pro western you’d report it to the TOS for promotion of terr$$$$
@@ofer3000 nope it is truthfully, you just have a hard time accepting the truth
you are Ridiculously indoctrinated and misinformed
@@ericm.8110Using Ilan Pappé as your only source is incredibly biased.
This is so not right,not factual
How so?
Israel did not occupy west bank and gaza until 6 day war you guys attacked us the moment we became a state we won took over land until gaza which egypt took and west bank that jordan took,we never took jerusalem until 1967 when you guys attacked us then golan and gaza were taken as well as senai and south lebanon was in the 90s
@djinnjax3274 because he leaves out the important details that many of the "raided" arab villages in the video either aided the efforts of the arab liberation army, or had militias that violently blocked major roads that carried humanitarian aid
There was I'm sure recorded evidence of jewish violence yes as in every war/conflict but you failed mention you guys started,the hebron massacre,the Yom kipper war,the fact that 60%of the land given by the jews was à swamp and a desert
Never was there historical records we kicked out people in haifa,it's litterly a arab majority city,never the jews comit terror attack you do,stop the bs
We got Oversimplified 2 before GTA 6!
Great job on this video! Didn't you used to be over simplified?
I would read Benny Morris and Avi Shalim. They are Ilan's contemporary "new historians" and in my opinion are more respected historians and offer more cited commentaries than Ilan. In general Ilan writes with a design to prove a point. While Morris is generally more balanced and offers more concrete evidence of his findings.
Ilan unfortunately is an Anti-zionist and has multiple controversies regarding documenting massacres and events that did not happen. His documents on Ben Gurien wanting and advocating for transfer and expulsion for example are largely considered incorrect.
why are hotdogs called hotdogs if they're not made out of dogs?
I dunno
It likely originated as a joke after the German Dachshund as even the germans called the frankfurter the "Little Dog"
I heard its because the first hotdog cart was driven by dogs
That's what we're lead to believe... also do not trust girl-scout cookies! j/k ofc ;)
Bro thinks he’s the Deep
Great channel! Best of luck broo! ❤️
Great for using Ilan Pappé as the only source for this video. Ilan Pappé is known to have a strong anti-zionist narrative and many opinionated and sketchy claims throughout his works.
It's not me saying it, but all historians from the "New Historians" group who read the same archived Pappé did.
Arab Armies were not ragtagged army. Jordanian Army was British -trained -armed and -led. Egypt have decent amount of British Weapons. Israel have weapons from Czechoslovakia not Soviet Union. US put arms embargo on both sides