My 6.5 works with ASC mags as well as LaRue & Pmags. PSA includes D&H mags with he .308 and these are the ones causing feeding issues in the 6.5 rifles. My .308 rifle however was under-gassed but PSA got it sorted quickly. Both run like a top now.
I work for KAC. I promise we have issues you never hear about. Also why we produce half the amount of guns. We spend a lot of time in house fixing things before they leave. Benefits of being a big name. People already complain that PSA is “out of stock” all the time and then the same people complain about quality. If you want quality to a T you slow down production. You slow down production you get complaints about not enough guns. Not to mention the price. You want this gun to cost 2k more? That’s how you’ll get your perfection. But guess what they make up for this with instant gratification via their customer service. You want your KAC rifle fixed get ready to have your gun gone for a month. It’s all relative. I personally work for a company that I don’t own a rifle from nor could afford and honestly don’t see a reason for when there are rifles that cost a quarter as much. A SASS kit will run you 30k. This gun 1400$? What’s the loss here. I won psa guns and have had zero issues. We have more than enough things we iron out at KAC before you even see the gun on shelf. This isn’t bashing anyone. This is just facts of business.
to be fair, the sass kit comes with optics and other valuables I believe. but yes, KAC charges 5 or 10k where as psa charges 1400 because they have a much more refined product.
This guy definitely doesn’t work for KAC, and kac doesn’t make 30k rifles either. They make 5-7k rifles and get their prices exploded for civilian trade.
I've got a lot of trigger time with m110s and SR 25s, and I'm impressed with psa's offering. The accuracy is excellent. I think a lot of hate is just because psa made it. I've always have noticed that the kac guns seem to have this mythology about them that is far from the truth. Most common one I hear is accuracy, which most people I've just bummed into honestly believe is on par or better than a bolt rifle. I've never seen one that good most are about 1.5 moa.
They are 1.5 moa guns on NATO ball ammo. The surplus stuff. When you start running match ammo like its supposed to be fed since it's twist rate is meant for heavier OTM rounds, you'll start getting good accuracy. Honestly though, the gun is not meant to be a tack shooter. Its meant to stabilize the heaviest, purpose built cartridges that the gun was meant for. Its a gun that was built to throw heavy hunting projectiles meant to kill people at long range. Trust me, the military would absolutely love to not spend 5 grand on a rifle when a 2000 dollar rifle will do the same thing. Unfortunately though, cheaper guns will not hold up to the same requirements. Are they worth 4 times as much as this? Maybe, maybe not. Do the people who are able to use anything regardless of price still useweapons from the m110 program? yes.
@mynameisjeff6988 you are aware he current m110 is not a kac right? Oh well, I found the myth believing troll at least. Think about what you just said why would the army specify the accuracy requirement for an ammo that the weapon would never use unless it had no option.
"Poverty State Armory" is what the gun snobs generally say. Their followers repeat it and will only buy something that cost at least 4x, because "the more it costs, the better it is" I've not bought anything outside of the PSAK103 from them so I can't speak on the AR platform, but their ak has not given me 1 problem.
@@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad yeh they get clowned on because they deserve it. They pump out trash ass guns but psa simps refuse to look at the evidence. They’ve openly admitted that they would rather take the hit of warranting guns than to 1)hire/train employees to build guns properly and 2)actually invest in doing quality control checks. The fact you haven’t had problems with your ak103 just tells me you haven’t shot it very much. I’ve got two of their aks. An ak103 and an Ak74. The 74 is on its third bolt after two trips back to psa for an out of spec bolt blowing primers out, a problem that mac himself had as well as about half a dozen other TH-camrs alone I can think of off the top of my head. Pathetic. Both my guns have terrible peening and abnormal wear on the locking surfaces because psa cant figure out geometry or metallurgy. Just got my Ak103 back from them also from fixing the canted front sight and folding stock that was loose as hell. Test fired it last weekend and now it’s starting to blow out primers also. The sad thing is these are known problems. I’ve talked to dudes that are on their 5th bolt replacement. On top of all that their trunions are made for beveled rivets but they use flat rivets on them instead. They build a shit product and they don’t deserve our money
Got this rifle Monday ive shot 200rnds through it and it has been 100% reliable. It is just as accurate my best 5 shot group has been .39 inches with AAC 140gr. I have had a lot in the .5 to .8 inch range with different ammo. The worst group I've shot has been with the Hornady 143gr ELDX and it was 1.2 inches. I absolutely love this gun.
So I've been bouncing back and forth between this and a bolt 308 (bergara) just out of curiosity what would you go with and if you have the time to explain why that'd be sweet.
The nice thing about PSA is that you get it for a lot less, have confidence that they will fix it if it tot right, and know that you’re supporting a great company.
Great video MAC, I've not picked up this Sabre yet but I have the Sabre in 5.56 and it runs flawlessly. PSA has stepped up huge these past few years to have affordable products that function as good as the high-end gear. Thank you and keep up the great work!
I’ve got the Billet 6.5 version as well and I was shooting sub MOA, 5 shot groups at 100 as well. My largest group was 1.157 with Sig 140gr OTM match. I tried 5 different types of match ammo and the cheap Aguila you used in this video. It functioned flawlessly with all of them. Both with and without a Silencerco Hybrid 46. I’m extremely happy with my purchase and my “M110 at home”
I have the same 6.5 CM Sabre and have had very similar results..i have many AR10 style rifles and have not found one that shoots as good as this…mostly sub moa as long as I do my part and feed it ammo it likes but most importantly it’s one of the only large frame gas guns I own that works right outta the box suppressed and unsuppressed perfectly. It’s too much fun people that say otherwise don’t know what they are talking about
Or the videos they have seen on youtube where it was having issues. Which in some cases PSA stated was indeed a manufacture issue. Then then fixed it and sent it back.
My new AK103K made by PSA had the magazine release pin walk out before 500 rounds. Oh the only magazine style that would lock in were PSA magazines. Fix? Gun smith had to open up aka dremel the back of the magazine well to allow any other mag to be inserted. Hand guard retainer broke after one flip and the gas tube lever was lose as hell. Stock wobble also. PSA makes sure no influencer gets a lemon. Even if bought by influencer after one purchase they have your info forever. There guns have issues time to time and the amount of $ invested into R&D should be doubled for QC/QA
Every manufacturer has issues. Machines and humans can make mistakes. QC humans can get lazy and something can go out. The question is do they fix it. PSA will fix it. Remember they manufacture and sell directly to consumers. It does not go to a 3rd party
@@NathanC-YT “Seen” is the operative word. Third party statements may not be introduced as evidence under the hearsay rule. If a person defames or libels a company, and the company sues, other videos, comments, or statements of any kind may not save you in court. Ask Focus Tripp this week if gun companies like to sue. Additionally, look at research papers. There is a reason the plagiarism rule exists. A person may not use other people’s words or experiences as their own. Recently, the US Supreme Court, of all places, repeated a lie from an Amicus Brief that black kids are twice as successful in health care with a black doctor. What?! In short, from the horse’s mouth is always the best concept. I believe that is true in almost everything.
Tim, I really value your videos and have since your inception on TH-cam. I remember the 3 part series on ACR vs SCAR. It was such a great review that I trust that I bought an ACR many years ago. It has been a real pleasure brother! Keep them coming and thanks for your voice and firm stance on freedom.
That was the first video of Tim's that I watched as well. Wish Remington had kept up with the manufacturing demands of the ACR. Would have been nice to see that compete with the AR15 in the market.
No kidding, I had a feeding problem with a PA9. Took 8 days from submitting the complaint form and I had my PA9 back with a new BCG and ramped barrel. They even replaced the plastic mag catch with a metal one without even mentioning it.
@@Militaryarmschannel Especially the whole p365 fiasco!🤣 there was some serious issues with it in the beginning.... sig knew there was issues..I couldn't believe the hate you got over reviewing a gun.... actually 3 different guns if I remember correctly...
I’ve bought 2 PSA rifles, and built with their parts. From all the trash talk I’ve heard, I haven’t seen any reason it’s earned. My PSA-10 shoots sub moa, 100% reliable, better than the Knights SR-25 I had. I was impressed how the upper AR-15 receiver from them I used in a build was a thermal fit. That’s a feature found in higher end parts. I have had issues with a PSA 300BLK, but not the guns fault. It runs subs all day, over gassed for supers. The lower was originally set up for 5.56, Im still tweaking it for 300BLK.
Well I changed my mind and didn’t go with the Daniel Defense. Bought one like yours. Absolutely love it. Upgraded the magazine release to a Ambi. Also changed the muzzle device to one that reduces flash and recoil. As for glass I picked up a Burris XTR II 4-20X50 MRAD scope on sale for $535. 20 MOA Cantilever mount. Gun is accurate and not one problem. Just received my order of Lancer Magazines. So hopefully they work as good as the pmags. Paid only twenty dollars apiece. FDE in color. A lot of deals right now if you search.
Damn it. Just read your comment. I have to funds to either get a DD5V3 in 308 (16”) or the PSA like this. No clue what to do because I legit want both. I’m going to use it for hunting Arizona big game.
I have had a c ouple firearms from PSA and they have all operated flawlessly. My $2,200 Maxim Defense PDW has malfunctioned waaaayyyyy more than anything I've had from PSA. My PSA 300 blk is every bit as reliable as my PWS M116 Mod2M
I found that the problem with magazines meant for .308 and using them with 6.5 is the follower. I noticed the follower from SIG on my 6.5 cross rifle had a very pronounced forward portion. On the 10 round AICS magazine that I ordered, it was identical to the SIG mag with one exception, the follower. I’m sure one of you 3-D printer guys out there can easily (I don’t know if it’s easy) replicate that pronounced tip and start selling those followers, cause I’m sure someone will be interested.
I got a faux dissipation from psa and the FSB was misaligned, not the end of the world I straightened it but the FSB was so off center a blind man could see it
Improperly staked castle nut that came loose, canted fsb, barrel nut that was torqued on by a gorilla, those are just some of what I've seen. I still like PSA, but I dont have delusions that they are "just as good"
That's cool. Lots of people have. I picked up a sabre upper to test and now my suppressor has 4 thrashed baffles and a destroyed end cap. It's also 7moa.
You are the second channel to vouch for PSA. Texas Plinking have 2 videos achieving the same conclusions and shooting at 950 yards. Amazing value for your money seeing from a ocean away in a Non fee country.
Since you read comments. I was on my way from OH to IL seen a Copper Customs sign miles out. However, nothing when I got closer. Must of passed it. Would of been nice to stop by. Longtime fan.
Aguila 6.5 Creedmoor 140grain, the accuracy anywhere from 2" to 5" groups...I pulled the bullets, and I replaced them with Hornady's 140grain Match HP, the group size most under 1" five rounds.
I bought a PSA PA10 gen3 with a 20" heavy SS barrel in 308 . When I use match ammo moa accuracy when I do my part . It has a Arken 4x16 scope on it what was affordable for me .
Every review i have seen on this firearm has been good. People just like to hate because its a psa product lol. I’ll definitely be getting one when i can
I've seen nothing but bad. It's not me hating on PSA I actually have two of their AKs and I've always wanted an M110. I REALLY wanted this gun to do good. But I don't think it's necessarily a PSA issue so much as it is mostly an AR10 issue. AR10s are notorious for being unreliable. Even the better brands like aero they aren't that great. Just like the AKs though they have some kinks to work out for sure. Hopefully this gun does better in the years to come. I think PSA should get more love just on their mission statement alone. They're trying to arm as many Americans as possible with a low cost to entry. Something any 2A lover could appreciate
I just received this rifle in 308 yesterday. Im taking it out to the thousand yard range Saturday. That said, the Texas plinking channel had an issue with his 308 AR10 Sabre. It wasn’t “people hating” his gas port was not drilled properly and PSA had to fix it. The 110 sass actual channel also reported issues with multiple malfunctions on his 6.5 version of the rifle. When only 3 trusted sources on TH-cam make a video on a new firearm and two of them are negative, it’s justified for people to question the rifle.
@@btumminaro yeah it's really unfortunate. But as much as it's popular to hate on PSA on a damn near cringe level it's still fair to say that this gun at its current state is literally nothing but a toy. For someone who wants a safe queen to sit in there and look pretty it's great. But for a work horse rifle that should be dependable. I wouldn't take it
@@don8659 Where are you getting that claim about 308 ARs? I've put a lot of rounds through a couple of Aero Precision large format ARs (AR10 is Armalite patterm) with zero issues. That said, I use quality ammunition. You can make any gun choke if the ammo you use is far enough out of spec.
@@1retiredknight it's literally everywhere. Aside from the anecdotes I've dealt with with an aero AR10 and 3 other people I know with AR10s where we've had to mortar them multiple times during malfunctions. Bolt dragging, firing pin being beat to sh*t, gassing issues, feeding issues. Tried good ammo, cheap ammo, steel ammo, different mags, etc. Same issue. Of course I'm some guy on the Internet so I don't expect you to take my word for it but there's many guntubers who recall similar issues. Trex arms even did an hour long video with the very same aero AR10 I had. Same issues. My brother has the same issues with a Totally different brand. Problem with AR10s is they're not in spec. There's no standardization of tolerances with the models on top of the fact the gun beats itself to death being most of the internals like the firing pin are the exact same for the AR-15. If you got one that's truly had no issues and You've truly run that thing hard then keep it. You have a unicorn and I envy you. I really want a dependable .308 AR platform but I refuse to pay KAC government gouging prices for an M110
I have a PSA 10 gen 3 blem. Less then 700$. It routinely shoots MOA and if I do my part sub MOA three shot groups and that is not with match ammo. I certainly have zero regrets purchasing it. I have it set up to loosely look like a black M110. I have zero complaints about PSA.
No matter how well-intentioned YT reviews are still generally a sample size of one or two and the negative ones will garner a lot of attention. People seem to forget this.
The right followers in the magazines is key when using 7.62 mag for 6.5. Basically its a better 3 points of contact with the round is traveling to the pipe.
Was that a Tomlinson t-shirt from Bridgeport CT? I used to eat there when they were a little hut in a larking lot a mile or two from my house off East Main St; before they became a big McDonald's type building.
You don’t always get what you pay for, but for what you pay for PSA it’s a good product. Pay an arm and leg for SIG quality but almost all of the products released in the last 10 years have had issues, recalls and immediate second Gen builds. MAC you are proof of this.
My issued USMC MK11s had issues to and was minute of man. The PSA looks to be a great shooting and more accurate clone! The same people that complain about Kimber complain about PSA. Both are quality products.
When I first bult my AR-10 based 6.5 CM bolt action, I tried what I thought was a good quality magazine (B&T). I couldn't get more than 3 rds. to feed in succession much less the entire mag. The cartridges would nosedive in the mag after a little room was made by shooting the first one or two. I switched to PMAGS and Hex Mags both with anti-tilt followers. I haven't had a problem since.
There was an issue with the gas port. The port was drilled with a taper, the port needs to be drilled straight through at the proper diameter. The polymer mag does work. It doesn't like the metal.
It would be hard not to be happy with those groups. I can't afford a real M110, but this PSA is really good. Haven’t caught them in stock, so they must be selling.
Texas Plumbing had 1 that was under gassed and 1 that had no problems, but was using a bad magazine. Manufactured items can have small things out of spec and PSA promptly fixed the problem and returned a rifle that was fully functional and in spec.
Great example of having a gem with a company that has historically know qc problems. Most issues they have is assembly. That's because the folks who primarily build the rifles are from a temp agency and are absolutely run into the ground.
I picked one up but it’s not running so well. I think it may be an issue with the extractor but not 100%. I had a couple malfunctions but when I put a suppressor on it started having double feeds and failed extractions almost every other round. Tried multiple different ammo and gas settings but continued to have issues no matter the ammo gas setting. Ended up pulling suppressor off and as the day went on started to have more issues so I’ve got some digging to do
I've had issues with ASC AR10 mags in a DPMS 308 AR, in trying to get those running I found out their customer service sucks too, hence I don't use ASC mags for any rifle.
My workhorse PSA 10.5 AR-P has run flawlessly over ~12k rounds in the last 4 years using a PSA milspec bolt I pulled from a 16” rifle I got when I was 15. Only issue was a stuck case after 5 mag dumps with steel ammo when you could still get it, letting it cool down with a round in the chamber. Hardly a fault of the rifle.
I just looked, you can get into one now for 1149.00 for the .308, . They dont have the "Sabar" listed in 6.5, but, they do have their PA10 in 6.5 for 1049.00. Prices keep falling. I have built two AR's with PSA lowers because (bems) are 99.00 now. And I have two bear creek uppers, because 229.00 with the bcg. Under 400.00 w/ optics and transfer fees. Im getting one of the sabers in 6.5 as soon as they are back in stock.
if you ever shoot out the barrel, get one profiled for the AEM5 line of suppressors. the AEM5-30 would do a great job for an over the barrel suppressor and should cover more than the PSR7
The AEM/Ops cans have roughly the same amount of over-barrel length as the Griffin PSR cans. The KAC M110 suppressor runs back to and indexes on the gas block.
@@woodrowcall3158 i'm well aware on the m110 index point. if i understand it right, the psr would still add more length due to the length of the muzzle device? And the aem5-30 would add less because it indexes on the collar roughly 1in in front of the gas block on a rifle length gas system
@@ForceRecon112 I have a rifle set up for a PSR 5 and another that is set up for an AEM/OCM 5. I can’t speculate on the internal volume of the OTB portions of either, but both suppressors extend effectively 2.5”-2.6” behind the face of the muzzle. The OCM 5 is a hair longer overall, but they set back almost exactly the same distance.
Pick up the 308 today. It was SOOOO dirty. I understand factory testing but I would bet they did a bit more testing before it left the factory. Range day is Saturday so I'm excited to burn that $500 stash of PMC Bronze that has been sitting around.
Gotta love the guy trys to prove how reliable it is by shooting from a fudd shack on a dnr range firing schedule and being like "see i told you!". Run the damn thing
All the messages he got about under gassing came from an issue on Texas Plinking. They sent it back and raved about PSAs service. They found that the gas journal hadn’t been fully drilled out. It was a QC problem that they are now aware of. I doubt it’ll come up again. PSA rocks.
My 6.5 works with ASC mags as well as LaRue & Pmags. PSA includes D&H mags with he .308 and these are the ones causing feeding issues in the 6.5 rifles. My .308 rifle however was under-gassed but PSA got it sorted quickly. Both run like a top now.
Your two videos were incredibly informative. Everyone should go take a look.
Thank you for the info!
@@holystromboli If anyone wants to share the links here, please do. I've pinned this comment.
1st video - th-cam.com/video/NKbSIv7MUzs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Cf0WRIAcsK2Y_E43
Saw one of those, you were very fair, great review.
I work for KAC. I promise we have issues you never hear about. Also why we produce half the amount of guns. We spend a lot of time in house fixing things before they leave. Benefits of being a big name. People already complain that PSA is “out of stock” all the time and then the same people complain about quality. If you want quality to a T you slow down production. You slow down production you get complaints about not enough guns. Not to mention the price. You want this gun to cost 2k more? That’s how you’ll get your perfection. But guess what they make up for this with instant gratification via their customer service. You want your KAC rifle fixed get ready to have your gun gone for a month. It’s all relative. I personally work for a company that I don’t own a rifle from nor could afford and honestly don’t see a reason for when there are rifles that cost a quarter as much. A SASS kit will run you 30k. This gun 1400$? What’s the loss here. I won psa guns and have had zero issues. We have more than enough things we iron out at KAC before you even see the gun on shelf. This isn’t bashing anyone. This is just facts of business.
Interesting perspective, I'm mulling a 16" Mod 2 E3.2 upper at present aswell as this one in .308. Thanks for posting!
to be fair, the sass kit comes with optics and other valuables I believe. but yes, KAC charges 5 or 10k where as psa charges 1400 because they have a much more refined product.
This guy definitely doesn’t work for KAC, and kac doesn’t make 30k rifles either. They make 5-7k rifles and get their prices exploded for civilian trade.
@@TheBradWatersThere for a while KAC was selling m110 kits for 30k it was on their website for a while
@@TheBradWatersThis guy Brad definitely works for JSOC...😅😅😅
I've got a lot of trigger time with m110s and SR 25s, and I'm impressed with psa's offering. The accuracy is excellent. I think a lot of hate is just because psa made it. I've always have noticed that the kac guns seem to have this mythology about them that is far from the truth. Most common one I hear is accuracy, which most people I've just bummed into honestly believe is on par or better than a bolt rifle. I've never seen one that good most are about 1.5 moa.
That's what I've read, but I don't have any experience with the KAC rifles.
They are 1.5 moa guns on NATO ball ammo. The surplus stuff. When you start running match ammo like its supposed to be fed since it's twist rate is meant for heavier OTM rounds, you'll start getting good accuracy. Honestly though, the gun is not meant to be a tack shooter. Its meant to stabilize the heaviest, purpose built cartridges that the gun was meant for. Its a gun that was built to throw heavy hunting projectiles meant to kill people at long range.
Trust me, the military would absolutely love to not spend 5 grand on a rifle when a 2000 dollar rifle will do the same thing. Unfortunately though, cheaper guns will not hold up to the same requirements. Are they worth 4 times as much as this? Maybe, maybe not. Do the people who are able to use anything regardless of price still useweapons from the m110 program? yes.
@mynameisjeff6988 you are aware he current m110 is not a kac right? Oh well, I found the myth believing troll at least. Think about what you just said why would the army specify the accuracy requirement for an ammo that the weapon would never use unless it had no option.
"Poverty State Armory" is what the gun snobs generally say. Their followers repeat it and will only buy something that cost at least 4x, because "the more it costs, the better it is"
I've not bought anything outside of the PSAK103 from them so I can't speak on the AR platform, but their ak has not given me 1 problem.
@@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad yeh they get clowned on because they deserve it. They pump out trash ass guns but psa simps refuse to look at the evidence. They’ve openly admitted that they would rather take the hit of warranting guns than to 1)hire/train employees to build guns properly and 2)actually invest in doing quality control checks. The fact you haven’t had problems with your ak103 just tells me you haven’t shot it very much. I’ve got two of their aks. An ak103 and an Ak74. The 74 is on its third bolt after two trips back to psa for an out of spec bolt blowing primers out, a problem that mac himself had as well as about half a dozen other TH-camrs alone I can think of off the top of my head. Pathetic. Both my guns have terrible peening and abnormal wear on the locking surfaces because psa cant figure out geometry or metallurgy. Just got my Ak103 back from them also from fixing the canted front sight and folding stock that was loose as hell. Test fired it last weekend and now it’s starting to blow out primers also. The sad thing is these are known problems. I’ve talked to dudes that are on their 5th bolt replacement. On top of all that their trunions are made for beveled rivets but they use flat rivets on them instead. They build a shit product and they don’t deserve our money
Got this rifle Monday ive shot 200rnds through it and it has been 100% reliable. It is just as accurate my best 5 shot group has been .39 inches with AAC 140gr. I have had a lot in the .5 to .8 inch range with different ammo. The worst group I've shot has been with the Hornady 143gr ELDX and it was 1.2 inches. I absolutely love this gun.
Outstanding results!
So I've been bouncing back and forth between this and a bolt 308 (bergara) just out of curiosity what would you go with and if you have the time to explain why that'd be sweet.
Most clone problems can be solved by a suitable use of heavy blasters.
“Execute order 66”
Phase 2 clone armor looked more bad arse. Change my mind.
Such an underrated comment lol I appreciate your hard work my friend lol
@@benjaminhuberty5888don't have to. Your opinion is factual lol
I prefer wrist rockets
The nice thing about PSA is that you get it for a lot less, have confidence that they will fix it if it tot right, and know that you’re supporting a great company.
Great video MAC,
I've not picked up this Sabre yet but I have the Sabre in 5.56 and it runs flawlessly.
PSA has stepped up huge these past few years to have affordable products that function as good as the high-end gear.
Thank you and keep up the great work!
I ordered the same one you have, I hope there's no issues with it. I'm sure PSA would take care of anything if it did. Thanks for the videos.
No problem 👍
Amazing groups! 😮
How can we get this in Europe?!?
@@PolenarTactical buy one off the taliban, im sure we left a few
Get them into the hands of the migrants coming in illegally, then buy it off them.
I bought one after watching your first review. Super impressed with the PSA Sabre 10 billet 6.5 creedmoor. Thank you for reviewing it on the channel
I’ve got the Billet 6.5 version as well and I was shooting sub MOA, 5 shot groups at 100 as well. My largest group was 1.157 with Sig 140gr OTM match. I tried 5 different types of match ammo and the cheap Aguila you used in this video. It functioned flawlessly with all of them. Both with and without a Silencerco Hybrid 46. I’m extremely happy with my purchase and my “M110 at home”
I see someone was watching m110actual lol
@@don8659 I was lol.
@@JHashfather I watched the same video last night lol
Glad you like yours! Mine went full auto on camera and broke within the first 2 mags 😂😂
I have to ask, did PSA do you right and remedy the situation?
They released a new gun In his honor.
I have the same 6.5 CM Sabre and have had very similar results..i have many AR10 style rifles and have not found one that shoots as good as this…mostly sub moa as long as I do my part and feed it ammo it likes but most importantly it’s one of the only large frame gas guns I own that works right outta the box suppressed and unsuppressed perfectly. It’s too much fun people that say otherwise don’t know what they are talking about
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Absolutely impressive ejection pattern.
On the lowest gas setting unsuppressed. I don’t have any familiarity with Aguila 6.5, but yeah, that looked perfect.
If you're having problems with clones, just call your local Droid offices so they can get a platoon of Droids heading out your way
Keyboard warriors. Most of which criticize firearms they have never seen, let alone held, handled, or fired.
Or the videos they have seen on youtube where it was having issues. Which in some cases PSA stated was indeed a manufacture issue. Then then fixed it and sent it back.
My new AK103K made by PSA had the magazine release pin walk out before 500 rounds. Oh the only magazine style that would lock in were PSA magazines. Fix? Gun smith had to open up aka dremel the back of the magazine well to allow any other mag to be inserted.
Hand guard retainer broke after one flip and the gas tube lever was lose as hell. Stock wobble also.
PSA makes sure no influencer gets a lemon. Even if bought by influencer after one purchase they have your info forever.
There guns have issues time to time and the amount of $ invested into R&D should be doubled for QC/QA
Every manufacturer has issues. Machines and humans can make mistakes. QC humans can get lazy and something can go out. The question is do they fix it. PSA will fix it. Remember they manufacture and sell directly to consumers. It does not go to a 3rd party
Yeah, but they saw it in another video so they are now experts obligated to share someone else’s perspective as their own.
@@NathanC-YT “Seen” is the operative word.
Third party statements may not be introduced as evidence under the hearsay rule. If a person defames or libels a company, and the company sues, other videos, comments, or statements of any kind may not save you in court. Ask Focus Tripp this week if gun companies like to sue.
Additionally, look at research papers. There is a reason the plagiarism rule exists. A person may not use other people’s words or experiences as their own.
Recently, the US Supreme Court, of all places, repeated a lie from an Amicus Brief that black kids are twice as successful in health care with a black doctor. What?!
In short, from the horse’s mouth is always the best concept. I believe that is true in almost everything.
Thanks for this. I love this new offering from PSA.... this dream could be attainable. You have a great channel, big fan.
Tim, I really value your videos and have since your inception on TH-cam. I remember the 3 part series on ACR vs SCAR. It was such a great review that I trust that I bought an ACR many years ago. It has been a real pleasure brother! Keep them coming and thanks for your voice and firm stance on freedom.
Thank you for watching all these years! It's been a crazy ride.
That was the first video of Tim's that I watched as well. Wish Remington had kept up with the manufacturing demands of the ACR. Would have been nice to see that compete with the AR15 in the market.
I've always been lucky with PSA but the QC is hit and miss, that's part of the reason it's so affordable. Luckily the customer service is top notch.
No kidding, I had a feeding problem with a PA9. Took 8 days from submitting the complaint form and I had my PA9 back with a new BCG and ramped barrel. They even replaced the plastic mag catch with a metal one without even mentioning it.
Something I have realized about Mac.. if he has an issue with a gun he will tell you about the issue...then he will get hated on for it...
If I get good results, I lied. If I get bad results, I lied. I learned that lesson about the internet years ago. 😂
@@Militaryarmschannel Especially the whole p365 fiasco!🤣 there was some serious issues with it in the beginning.... sig knew there was issues..I couldn't believe the hate you got over reviewing a gun.... actually 3 different guns if I remember correctly...
That ejection pattern is perfect 👌
I’ve bought 2 PSA rifles, and built with their parts. From all the trash talk I’ve heard, I haven’t seen any reason it’s earned. My PSA-10 shoots sub moa, 100% reliable, better than the Knights SR-25 I had. I was impressed how the upper AR-15 receiver from them I used in a build was a thermal fit. That’s a feature found in higher end parts. I have had issues with a PSA 300BLK, but not the guns fault. It runs subs all day, over gassed for supers. The lower was originally set up for 5.56, Im still tweaking it for 300BLK.
I also thought that my 300bo upper is over gassed. I installed h2 buffer and the rifle is now very pleasant to shoot.
Well I changed my mind and didn’t go with the Daniel Defense. Bought one like yours. Absolutely love it. Upgraded the magazine release to a Ambi. Also changed the muzzle device to one that reduces flash and recoil. As for glass I picked up a Burris XTR II 4-20X50 MRAD scope on sale for $535. 20 MOA Cantilever mount. Gun is accurate and not one problem. Just received my order of Lancer Magazines. So hopefully they work as good as the pmags. Paid only twenty dollars apiece. FDE in color. A lot of deals right now if you search.
Damn it. Just read your comment. I have to funds to either get a DD5V3 in 308 (16”) or the PSA like this. No clue what to do because I legit want both. I’m going to use it for hunting Arizona big game.
I have had a c ouple firearms from PSA and they have all operated flawlessly. My $2,200 Maxim Defense PDW has malfunctioned waaaayyyyy more than anything I've had from PSA. My PSA 300 blk is every bit as reliable as my PWS M116 Mod2M
I ran 160 rounds through mine last Saturday. A mix of AAC 140gr, AAC Black Tip and AAC SMKs. Flawless!!!
People dog on PSA just to dog on PSA. Ridiculous if you ask me.
*Poor people sound off*
PSA got a good thing going. Hard to beat alot of what they offer.
@@UrNotThatGuyPal😢😂😂
Mean while almost every product Sig has released year after year has had issues or had to be fixed with a recall or second gen build.
@@Al_capachino daniel defence just released worst pistol , H( lol
I found that the problem with magazines meant for .308 and using them with 6.5 is the follower. I noticed the follower from SIG on my 6.5 cross rifle had a very pronounced forward portion. On the 10 round AICS magazine that I ordered, it was identical to the SIG mag with one exception, the follower. I’m sure one of you 3-D printer guys out there can easily (I don’t know if it’s easy) replicate that pronounced tip and start selling those followers, cause I’m sure someone will be interested.
Yep I wanted one after watching your first video Tim and I still want to pick one of those up after watch this video. Keep up the good work.
Excellent follow-up video, thanks!
Shame some people, like Texas Plinking, had a gas problem.
Could you do a follow-up on the PSA Spiker? I want to see more of it. It's so cool.
I get it. My PSA Jakl is my ACR clone, except it works better than the Bushmaster ACR ever did.
Thanks for the update. FWIW, I have 2 standard PA10s in .308 that run perfect with ASC and Duramag steel mags.
PSA always temps me with the stuff they put out. Great video, love watching your videos before I buy new weapons.
I’ve never had an issue with PSA guns, nor has anyone else I know of that’s purchased from them.
I got a faux dissipation from psa and the FSB was misaligned, not the end of the world I straightened it but the FSB was so off center a blind man could see it
Improperly staked castle nut that came loose, canted fsb, barrel nut that was torqued on by a gorilla, those are just some of what I've seen. I still like PSA, but I dont have delusions that they are "just as good"
That's cool. Lots of people have. I picked up a sabre upper to test and now my suppressor has 4 thrashed baffles and a destroyed end cap. It's also 7moa.
@@operatorsanonymous1741god awful.
Lol wut
😂 Got a notification at 10:30 am that they were 'back in stock'. Went on around 2 pm... Out of stock. Gotta be quick!
You are the second channel to vouch for PSA. Texas Plinking have 2 videos achieving the same conclusions and shooting at 950 yards. Amazing value for your money seeing from a ocean away in a Non fee country.
I’m blown away, the price will probably go up on these.
Don’t say that
@@wakz2618 ikr
It already has; now it’s $1499.00
Price will go up, then they'll be unavailable, then they'll be like 2 or 3 times as much as msrp on gunbroker.
@@gregvanness7909billet is 1499, forged is 1299.
Thanks for not shitting on PSA because they sell rifles that don’t cost $10k
Insane performance at insanely accessible price!
Great video! And always showing the practical accuracy just about every time you debut a firearm. What a great shooting rifle for the price!
Excellent shooting. If you listen carefully around @7:25 you can hear him coordinating his breathing with his shots. I love doing that at the range.
Thanks for the update!
Since you read comments. I was on my way from OH to IL seen a Copper Customs sign miles out. However, nothing when I got closer. Must of passed it. Would of been nice to stop by. Longtime fan.
I will build my 6.5 with Aero Precision parts and should be just as happy for less cash involved
But it’s not $30,000 like the Knight’s so it can’t be any good. Our government wouldn’t overspend money like that.
When it isn't their money, what does the government care
Can’t wait to see the comparison between the Sabr 10 and Ruger Sfar!
Huh?
Aguila 6.5 Creedmoor 140grain, the accuracy anywhere from 2" to 5" groups...I pulled the bullets, and I replaced them with Hornady's 140grain Match HP, the group size most under 1" five rounds.
I bought a PSA PA10 gen3 with a 20" heavy SS barrel in 308 . When I use match ammo moa accuracy when I do my part . It has a Arken 4x16 scope on it what was affordable for me .
Thanks MAC! I’m still interested in getting one! This video just sold me on one. Glad it’s working well. Hopefully I’ll get one that performs great.
Thanks for watching.
Man I can’t wait to get one!! Maybe later on I’m gonna swap the barrel with an 8.6 blackout barrel for a quieter hunting rifle.
Thanks for your review
Every review i have seen on this firearm has been good. People just like to hate because its a psa product lol. I’ll definitely be getting one when i can
I've seen nothing but bad. It's not me hating on PSA I actually have two of their AKs and I've always wanted an M110. I REALLY wanted this gun to do good. But I don't think it's necessarily a PSA issue so much as it is mostly an AR10 issue. AR10s are notorious for being unreliable. Even the better brands like aero they aren't that great. Just like the AKs though they have some kinks to work out for sure. Hopefully this gun does better in the years to come. I think PSA should get more love just on their mission statement alone. They're trying to arm as many Americans as possible with a low cost to entry. Something any 2A lover could appreciate
I just received this rifle in 308 yesterday. Im taking it out to the thousand yard range Saturday. That said, the Texas plinking channel had an issue with his 308 AR10 Sabre. It wasn’t “people hating” his gas port was not drilled properly and PSA had to fix it. The 110 sass actual channel also reported issues with multiple malfunctions on his 6.5 version of the rifle. When only 3 trusted sources on TH-cam make a video on a new firearm and two of them are negative, it’s justified for people to question the rifle.
@@btumminaro yeah it's really unfortunate. But as much as it's popular to hate on PSA on a damn near cringe level it's still fair to say that this gun at its current state is literally nothing but a toy. For someone who wants a safe queen to sit in there and look pretty it's great. But for a work horse rifle that should be dependable. I wouldn't take it
@@don8659 Where are you getting that claim about 308 ARs? I've put a lot of rounds through a couple of Aero Precision large format ARs (AR10 is Armalite patterm) with zero issues. That said, I use quality ammunition. You can make any gun choke if the ammo you use is far enough out of spec.
@@1retiredknight it's literally everywhere. Aside from the anecdotes I've dealt with with an aero AR10 and 3 other people I know with AR10s where we've had to mortar them multiple times during malfunctions. Bolt dragging, firing pin being beat to sh*t, gassing issues, feeding issues. Tried good ammo, cheap ammo, steel ammo, different mags, etc. Same issue. Of course I'm some guy on the Internet so I don't expect you to take my word for it but there's many guntubers who recall similar issues. Trex arms even did an hour long video with the very same aero AR10 I had. Same issues. My brother has the same issues with a Totally different brand. Problem with AR10s is they're not in spec. There's no standardization of tolerances with the models on top of the fact the gun beats itself to death being most of the internals like the firing pin are the exact same for the AR-15. If you got one that's truly had no issues and You've truly run that thing hard then keep it. You have a unicorn and I envy you. I really want a dependable .308 AR platform but I refuse to pay KAC government gouging prices for an M110
Tim if you got haters then you know your a Player! Love your stuff.
Damn. He must murder his mail with that letter opener.
I have a PSA 10 gen 3 blem. Less then 700$. It routinely shoots MOA and if I do my part sub MOA three shot groups and that is not with match ammo. I certainly have zero regrets purchasing it. I have it set up to loosely look like a black M110. I have zero complaints about PSA.
No matter how well-intentioned YT reviews are still generally a sample size of one or two and the negative ones will garner a lot of attention. People seem to forget this.
Also, MAC always gets the bad samples, I swear if a gun has a 1 in a million chance of failure MAC will get it, always has.
Excellent as always
If a Firearm has a problem, MAC will definitely get it. He’s a magnet for problematic guns. Great video as always 👍
The right followers in the magazines is key when using 7.62 mag for 6.5. Basically its a better 3 points of contact with the round is traveling to the pipe.
Was that a Tomlinson t-shirt from Bridgeport CT? I used to eat there when they were a little hut in a larking lot a mile or two from my house off East Main St; before they became a big McDonald's type building.
Glad to see, it was just suspicious when everyone else was having problems and your worked better then perfect
Great update and review! The SASS doesnt get enough love. 😅
You don’t always get what you pay for, but for what you pay for PSA it’s a good product. Pay an arm and leg for SIG quality but almost all of the products released in the last 10 years have had issues, recalls and immediate second Gen builds. MAC you are proof of this.
True. PSA and Sig are trash quality
My issued USMC MK11s had issues to and was minute of man. The PSA looks to be a great shooting and more accurate clone!
The same people that complain about Kimber complain about PSA.
Both are quality products.
PSA is doing the Lords Work! Now they just need to come out with a 2011.
My unit just got the new m110 rifles by HK. The m110A1 if I remember correctly. I'm excited to see how they shoot and hold up
When I first bult my AR-10 based 6.5 CM bolt action, I tried what I thought was a good quality magazine (B&T). I couldn't get more than 3 rds. to feed in succession much less the entire mag. The cartridges would nosedive in the mag after a little room was made by shooting the first one or two. I switched to PMAGS and Hex Mags both with anti-tilt followers. I haven't had a problem since.
There was an issue with the gas port. The port was drilled with a taper, the port needs to be drilled straight through at the proper diameter. The polymer mag does work. It doesn't like the metal.
It would be hard not to be happy with those groups. I can't afford a real M110, but this PSA is really good. Haven’t caught them in stock, so they must be selling.
I am not in love with the pricing on 6.5 CM, but my preferred hunting round(243) has become expensive as well.
Texas Plumbing had 1 that was under gassed and 1 that had no problems, but was using a bad magazine.
Manufactured items can have small things out of spec and PSA promptly fixed the problem and returned a rifle that was fully functional and in spec.
Great example of having a gem with a company that has historically know qc problems. Most issues they have is assembly. That's because the folks who primarily build the rifles are from a temp agency and are absolutely run into the ground.
I like the Explosive sticker. I moonlight for a shipping company I ALWAYS find the explosive
That sounds so daggone beautiful with that can!!
2:40 I don’t know if a nod to Matt and CRS, but I love the “pointer” ❤
I wonder how Banksy feels about drawing on a piece of sheet metal.
Great video , very informative Mac
I picked one up but it’s not running so well. I think it may be an issue with the extractor but not 100%. I had a couple malfunctions but when I put a suppressor on it started having double feeds and failed extractions almost every other round. Tried multiple different ammo and gas settings but continued to have issues no matter the ammo gas setting. Ended up pulling suppressor off and as the day went on started to have more issues so I’ve got some digging to do
Yet the PA-10 is running AMAZING out of the box @ $570 out the door 🎉😂 thanks Sabre! 😂😅😂
So I see the title of the video and my first and only thought is:
Did MAC break something else...again?!
😂
I've had issues with ASC AR10 mags in a DPMS 308 AR, in trying to get those running I found out their customer service sucks too, hence I don't use ASC mags for any rifle.
My workhorse PSA 10.5 AR-P has run flawlessly over ~12k rounds in the last 4 years using a PSA milspec bolt I pulled from a 16” rifle I got when I was 15. Only issue was a stuck case after 5 mag dumps with steel ammo when you could still get it, letting it cool down with a round in the chamber. Hardly a fault of the rifle.
Great channel love the content!
I just looked, you can get into one now for 1149.00 for the .308, . They dont have the "Sabar" listed in 6.5, but, they do have their PA10 in 6.5 for 1049.00. Prices keep falling. I have built two AR's with PSA lowers because (bems) are 99.00 now. And I have two bear creek uppers, because 229.00 with the bcg. Under 400.00 w/ optics and transfer fees. Im getting one of the sabers in 6.5 as soon as they are back in stock.
Great video! Excellent review!!!
if you ever shoot out the barrel, get one profiled for the AEM5 line of suppressors. the AEM5-30 would do a great job for an over the barrel suppressor and should cover more than the PSR7
First thing I thought. Needs a AEM 30 can on it.
The AEM/Ops cans have roughly the same amount of over-barrel length as the Griffin PSR cans. The KAC M110 suppressor runs back to and indexes on the gas block.
@@woodrowcall3158 i'm well aware on the m110 index point. if i understand it right, the psr would still add more length due to the length of the muzzle device? And the aem5-30 would add less because it indexes on the collar roughly 1in in front of the gas block on a rifle length gas system
@@ForceRecon112 I have a rifle set up for a PSR 5 and another that is set up for an AEM/OCM 5.
I can’t speculate on the internal volume of the OTB portions of either, but both suppressors extend effectively 2.5”-2.6” behind the face of the muzzle. The OCM 5 is a hair longer overall, but they set back almost exactly the same distance.
Pick up the 308 today. It was SOOOO dirty. I understand factory testing but I would bet they did a bit more testing before it left the factory. Range day is Saturday so I'm excited to burn that $500 stash of PMC Bronze that has been sitting around.
If your m110 is malfunctioning it’s a perfect replica of a m110
_"Don't find fault, find a remedy."_ *~Henry Ford*
Stay classy my friends.
Great looking gun!!! PSA is killing it!!!
That’s a beautiful rifle!! It’s on my list for a 6.5!!! 👍🏽
Thanks.
Please advise, what dagger is that used to point with? It's very nice. Excellent shooting and gun advice also. Cheers, Gus
Gotta love the guy trys to prove how reliable it is by shooting from a fudd shack on a dnr range firing schedule and being like "see i told you!". Run the damn thing
Everyone that watches MAC should know by now, if there's a lemon rifle out there, Tim will get it.
Can’t wait to get ahold of one.
Still there greatest intro on TH-cam 🤟
Thank you!
Honestly I don’t know why people still beat on PSA. Still trendy I guess. PSA is one of the best 2a companies out there imo
That gun is insanely accurate for any kind. Bolt or gasser. Dang
Appreciate the video! Excited about this gun from psa. Have you seen the review from 110 SASS ACTUAL where his supposedly goes full auto?
All the messages he got about under gassing came from an issue on Texas Plinking. They sent it back and raved about PSAs service. They found that the gas journal hadn’t been fully drilled out. It was a QC problem that they are now aware of. I doubt it’ll come up again. PSA rocks.