@Luca Devine if what Jessie is true then I doubt that will make it to the history channel because the history channel actually does there research and disney doesn't and that's why I can't stand watching it in the modern version. I would hate to see toy story and the Incredibles in the modern version.
The people who wrote the Disney movie Hercules obviously had NO idea of the actual story of Hercules. Hades was supposed to be the most fair minded and least petty of the Olympian gods. It was actually Hera who was tormenting Hercules to punish Zeus for cheating on her with Hercules mum.
Acutely Hades is way different then hell there is even a place for the exstreamly good people "blessed dead" called Elysium Fields/Plains, then there are levels for how "righteous " you lived your life, all the dead go to hades, then you go through judgement, then you go to the fields of Elysium, Asphodel, or Punishment
Honestly, this is literally how Hades became how he did: Zeus: So Poseidon you'll have the ocean, I'll have the sky, and Hades? Oh- Oh you'll love this- *You get the basement.*
Greek myths paint a somewhat different picture: Even tho Zeus defeated their father, the Titan Cronus, he, Poseidon, and Hades drew lots for which realm they would rule. Now imagine Hades, Lord of the Sea. :)
In every version I've read, the three brothers drew lots (or straws) to see who would get what. Hades getting the Underworld was just the luck of the draw. Sorry to kill your joke :(
@@kittycatkyla2344 No, it's fine! I know that's what actually happened, I just say this because I find it funny. That, and the way Hades gets treated kinda suits it.
"He did practically save and raise Quasimodo." Um... no. He murdered Quasimodo's mother and was going to drown him in a well before the priest guilted him into sparing Quasimodo. Then he kept him locked up in a tower his whole life.
Not killing someone when you can kill someone is saving them. Even if the life they have isn't what they would have had without you showing up in the first place.
This is a very late reply but Claude did save him. The story of quasimodo was that his parents didn’t want him due to being deformed so they left him in a box in town square which is somewhat of a way of adoption back in the day. Frollo found him and it reminded him of his little brother. So he took him in and raised him as his own son.
Kristiniqua I never read the book but based on what I’ve heard in the book version Frollo was a pretty decent guy until he luster after Esmeralda and that list drove him to insanity and then everything started going very wrong very very fast.
He’s talking through the book version. Frollo adopted Quasimodo because the helpless deformed baby reminded him of his sick brother that he had to take care of by himself. He found him on Quasimodo day and that’s what he was named after.
I dunno if this was from somewhere but my literature teacher told us about Cinderella's stepmother's story too. She said her name was Freesia and she was not so pretty, but she was kind and helpful. She met Cinderella's father and they both fell in love with each other. They were about to get married when Cinderella's father met Freesia's cousin, who was beautiful, and he left Freesia for her. Freesia's cousin and Cinderella's father got married and had a child, who's our girl Cinderella. On the contrary, Freesia got forcefully married with a guy who she didn't love and had two girls. Freesia's husband died after some years and she was all alone with the two girls. Cinderella's mother had died too. Freesia then met /him/ after some years and they fell in love again, so they got married. Freesia didn't like Cinderella cuz it reminded her of her sadness and suffering. When he died, Freesia was completely devastated. She thought her life was just going worse and worse. She mistreated Cinderella just because she couldn't look at her without thinking of her cousin who betrayed her.
In all Greek myths, especially the story of Heracles, Hades is shown to be very respectable and willing to return the favor for anyone who respects him. Heracles shows him respect and Hades allows him to take Cerberus with him as long as he doesn't hurt him with a weapon. So obviously he cares about his dog and isn't stubborn and extremely violent and or self absorbed as a lot of the other gods... *cough* ATHENA *cough* .
exactly! in both the original cartoon and later in Maleficent the king's name was STEPHEN. Aurora marries Phillip. seriously, the dimwit who narrated this video needs to do a little more research before making any more of these videoes
the queen of hearts story is pretty of sad... i loved the movie but was disappointed at the ending i wish that the mawde her head shrink when her and her sisiter made up- as is the anger going away an so then does the swelling of her head wish is actually just all her anger she save up over the years.. when it didnt happen i was a bit disappointed. :(
For Hercules, actually, Hera is not his mom. Zeus fell in love with a human girl on earth. When her husband was sent off to war, Zeus disguised himself as her husband, went down to earth, and Hercules was born. When her husband came back, she realized her mistake. Zeus went back up to the gods, but Hera was furious. Remember when baby Hercules fought pain and panic when they turned into snakes? Those snakes weren’t sent by hades, they were sent by Hera to kill baby Hercules. When he was sent to earth, he had to complete his 12 challenges in order to join his father on mount Olympus. Crazy, right?
from what I have read, actually the human women abandoned the baby to die in fear Hera would kill her, feeling that his son deserved better he pleaded with Hera to forgive him and spare the child from the cruel elements and to let him live on mount Olympus. Hera annoyed said fine but he would have to complete 12 tasks before he could so. so he was spared and when he was old enough he would be welcomed into Olympus. Hades had no part in this besides being annoyed that Cerberus was dragged from his job.
@@funnypasta6155 No after he was abandoned in the forest Athena found him and sent him back then when he grew up he killed everyone and had to do 12 things then he got married again but his wife thought he was cheating on him so an evil centaur gave her a vial of centaur blood which he said was a live potion and when it touches Hercules skin he will forget about all other women then she put the blood on his shirt and Hercules put on the shirt/toga and centaur blood is actually like acid so Hercules melted then Zeus made him a god. That's the official story but there are about 70 other versions
Silly Bean no. Hercules is used in rome. the original is greek and they called him HERAcles. he was named this to appease the goddess Hera so she would take pity on him, but of course Hera was having none of that. when the greeks mention anything to with him they call it “HERAclean” not “HURculean”
There are so many mistakes in this video, it shows nobody cared to do actual research. Hercules story was not even close to the Disney movie! Once Upon a Time is not the source of Cruella’s story but a non canon story (in the book, Cruella was always an eccentric girl who was so obssessed with spots that she was expelled from school for drinking ink in an attempt to get them). And it is well known now that the writers of The Little Mermaid had planned to make Ursula Triton’s sister who he exiled because of her imperfections (since she was half octopus). I won’t even watch the rest. This is your job, do it better.
They also say Ursula is a “step sister.” Adopted siblings are just siblings lol Not to mention that Cinderella is based on the folk tale, which is nothing like what this video mentions.
Here's my one issue with the Cruella backstory. You claimed she had been born a sociopath, But that's physically impossible. People can be born psychopaths, but sociopathy is developed overtime by abuse and manipulation
Actually, that's not true. About 50% of what a sociopath is comes from hereditary things- as in, things they're born with. What's most likely is that she was born a sociopath and, this being a guess, had some amount of small trauma. Her father isn't present, so that could have easily been her first small trigger into beginning manipulating people from a young age and possibly causing harm to other people and animals as a way to deal with her emotions. And as her mother tries again and again to remarry, her lack of empathy makes her see those men as invaders, people who could potentially leave her just like her biological father had, so she kills them. In fact, the vast majority of diagnosed sociopaths DO NOT come from abusive households, and while she was clearly abused, sociopath or not, sociopaths are not born of abuse.
@@sebastianlugo5781 in once upon a time version he was telling about, she killed her own father. So in that case it couldn't be the reason for her socialpathic behaviour. In my opinion she was just crazy
In the original book (The Hundred and One Dalmatians, by Dodie Smith) Cruella was always odd to say the least. She was apparently expelled from school for drinking ink according to the character Mrs Dearly (no first name, becomes Anita in the Disney version.).
There is not sufficient evidence to claim that someone is born with sociopathy or psychopathy. We simply do not know the origins of psychopathy or sociopathy. Personally, I believe that trauma can lead one to switch off compassion
I feel like characters such as Lady Tremaine, (maybe) Mother Gotten, Frollo, and Gaston were forged by the toxic environment they lived in and that's what shaped them into the villains of the story. That being said it does nothing to justify the cruelty and misdeeds they committed.
Considering in 17y0 where beauty and the beast takes place it would make sense for Gaston seeing belle as nothing but something to marry. As women didn’t have rights back then
Persephone, his wife, is the daughter of Zeus, his brother, and Demeter, Their sister. as in both the sister of Zeus and Hades. All in all though He did have Zeus permission as her father to wed her before taking her to the underworld which most people tend to forget. In that time as long as you have the fathers permission it was culturally acceptable to than take the woman as your bride.
never understood the critique on Cinderella. she was a victim of emotional, psychological, and physical abuse. why is it her fault she doesnt "stand up for herself". Do we blame victims of abuse IRL for not standing up for themselves...
I think the critique is on the way it is told, that as long as you can live through the abuse, there's a kind fairy godmother to fix everything. There isn't, so if you actually have the choice to stay in or leave an abusive situation, you shouldn't be told to stay cuz it's going to be fine in the end any way.
Mrs. Elise Patterson, Cinderella pretty much didn’t stand up for herself because, after her father died, she was never taught ways she could. If her father had lived longer, she might have learned ways she could defend herself, but she was instead turned into a maid by her stepmother because she didn’t really care as much for her than she did her own daughters ( she got more care from animals than she did family until she married the prince )
Yep. You get abused for long enough, and you start to crave it. It's sad, and takes decades of therapy to come to terms with and often is irreversible.
Ugh, I hate the revisionist idea of Cinderella that people feel the need to bash it. Because it's totally okay to bash someone for "not standing up for themselves" when confronting someone who has abused them since early childhood. When will this trend die? This is not okay. I thought people had caught on that this was no tokay. Cinderella didn't anticipate marrying the prince. She just wanted a break from her long term abuse. And it's NOT okay to say she should have stood up for herself. That's a LOT harder than it sounds for long term abuse victims. Did you ever stop to consider what would have happened to her if she tried to stand up to her stepmother? Honestly wish people would stop treating kindness as a weakness. Try actually watching the film before you tell us women what is empowering or not. It took bravery for that girl to even go to the ball after what they did to her.
Yeah, I didn't agree with the take on Cinderella in this. If you were abused by the one person in a position of authority from childhood and made to believe you were worthless, the psychological damage would be almost insurmountable. In fact, Cinderella not going bonkers crazy and becoming a villain herself is a testament to her nature as a caring loving person. Her mannerisms and 'passive' nature as this take on her story put it is entirely the Step Mother's fault. I have little if any sympathy for the step mother--she was second only to Cruella in petty cruelness and her backstory is no excuse to treat a child so badly.
Fish Scales I think there were some backstory to the cinematic joker, as his father cut his mouth while he asked “why so serious?” but I don’t have a lot of knowledge about DCU so I may be wrong
I didn't understand it quite, either, other than he had some feelings for her. But no one in my family acted weird because of this, it's just that it's creepy when you look back at it. :D
Thank you! He didn't save him. He was going to kill Quasi too. But the guy from Notre Dame stopped him. Got frollo to feel guilty enough to raise him, even then ended up trying to kill him again.
In the book frollo actually did save quasimodo; quasimodo's parents abandoned him because of his deformity at a church and frollo pitied him because it reminded him of he and his brother being abandoned by their own parents and he didn't want quasimodo to suffer the same fate. In the book, frollo is a decent person until he is driven insane by his lust for esmeralda
@@AllyHalliday like, Quasimodo was the gipsies child, he was tossed to Esmeralda's mom, and Esmeralda was kidnapped. So, he was brought to church by Esmeralda's mother. Tadaa
In Cinderella's defense she was abused her entire life and people that suffer abuse often have no sense of identity and low self-esteem so she was trained to always stay in the house and do whatever they say that's part of why she is so passive can't really blame her when it's not her fault she was abused but yes the story is morally bankrupt.
If Gaston has PTSD, why does a line in the movie imply thinking about the war makes him happy and calms him down when he's upset? I thought the implications were that he enjoyed being at war because he enjoyed violence.
I'm no expert, but I think thrill-seeking is a fairly common coping mechanism to PTSD. I'm not sure what the exact logic is, but perhaps KNOWING you're in danger is easier to cope with than THINKING YOU MIGHT BE.
Really? I don't think Scar could have been banished if he was invited by his brother to celebrate Simba's baptism. And I don't think Mufasa would make the trip over to his place (which by lion's standards isn't too shabby) to express his disappointment that he didn't come to the ceremony, meaning he was expecting him to show up. And while I can't confirm if it's true or not, I'd read that the father treated and loved both sons equally. Even when Scar couldn't take the throne, he made sure that he still held a position of influence and basically appointed Scar as Mufasa's right-hand man; which I'm guessing did not fly well for him.
I really hope that, should any of these villains not already have a live action appearance, Disney will give them one that let's us see their backstory. However I don't want this to become another Maleficent incident. The villains' characters should not be altered for the sake of making us feel bad about them. Yes, we should sometimes be able to sympathize with them,but not to the point where that outweighs the *Evil* deeds they have or are about to commit.
In fairness, while certainly the ending was altered from the animated version--her backstory isn't outside the realm of possibility. The original Sleeping Beauty does start after a large portion of the events that take place in Maleficient's backstory.
Cheyenne Williams it was good, and I won't take that from you. I thought the effects were pretty good, I just don't want them to try to humanize their villains more than is necessary.
better late than never oh no I totally agree with not humanizing all of them. But tbh sleeping beauty wasn’t all that exciting and is rather boring. I thought that adding the maleficent part of the story added so much more to the story and honestly made much more sense as to why she put the curse on aurora. But they can’t do that with all villains.
Andromeda680 That’s pretty much what happened in the Angelina Jolie movie. A bit darker and less of a coming-of-age story, but she’s definitely sympathetic in it.
No completely disagree, Cinderella is a symbol of hard work, determination and staying true to who you are in the face of years of mental and emotional abuse.
Actually the ORIIGNAL story of Sleeping Beauty, the Unnamed "Old Fairy" (Disney gave her a name, Maleficent) Wasn't invited to the christening because she was so old everyone assumed she was dead. Bad Assumption, Tragedy ensues. You don't diss a fairy.
"I.....was.....slleeppping!, how many times I gotta tell yeah I'm not dead.....that's it lets see you YOU feel when I make everyone think YOUR dead but really just SLEEPING!!! MUHAHHAHAAA!!" wow evil genius right there 👏👏👏
@@Alsebra I was about to say it's probably Morgana, but you make valid points. Mim really was just a trickster sorceress, not a threat to the kingdom like Morgana.
Disney really needs to make lore movies or something. Once upon a time isn't enough. That little mermaid story about Ursula would've made a gr8 prequel.
Actually, the correct term for Cruella is a Psychopath. No one is ever born a sociopath. Psychos are the way they are from birth. Socios experienced something traumatic and remembered it.
Psychopathy is caused by a difference in brain chemistry and structure that is present from birth. Do some research and you can find all sorts of interesting things about it.
I study psychology and criminology at uni and if you truly research it. All psychopaths are sociopaths, but not all sociopaths are psychopaths as they share the same symptoms, however psychopathy has more symptoms that can be more severe, thus being the worse of the two. As for the cause, there are many and can usually not be pinpointed. There are many genes and chemical hormones that can contribute to such antisocial personality disorders. However experiencing traumatic events tends to act as a catalyst to the two. I Believe her to be a psychopath as she displays most symptoms for sociopathy as well as psychopathy. She has a superficial charm, lack of remorse, she is impulsive and manipulative and lacks any deep emotional attachment, those are a few examples. Check ya facts people
This is hard to believe, but Claude Frollo was even worse in the original work by Victor Hugo.... By the way: don't read it if you are hoping for a happy ending....
@giveagoodsong Huh? I know Quasimodo was abandoned by his birth family (in fact, I think they stole a baby girl who grew up to be Esmeralda and left Quasi in her place!) but I didn't catch that their abandoning him caused his deformity! I thought they dumped the poor kid BECAUSE of this deformity.
I can understand there is a why someone would do something bad but that doesn't make it "right". It really annoys me when people don't take responsibility and blame their behavior on their past. You can be more than your past. You can rise above it and still be a "good" person.
hazarddex Hades shows up for a little bit when Hercules had to capture Cerberus for one of his 12 labors and Hades tells his nephew to not hurt Cerberus with a weapon
As much as I like the show, OUaT is not canon. For instance. according to the original book "One Hundred and One Dalmatians" Cruella was a schoolmate of Anita's, who was always messed up (Cruella was one expelled for drinking ink). No backstory; just a born messed-up, narcissistic sociopath. (Side note: In the original book, Pongo's missus was simply called Missus; Perdita was a young mother Dalmatian whose puppies were taken from her and Roger found her on the side of the road, noticed that she could be a milknurse to help Missus, and took her in. There were 97 puppies rescued, including Pongo's & MIssus' 13 and Perdita's pups. I know that adds up to 100: the last chapter of the book, titled "The One Hundred and Oneth Dalmatian" explains the last Dalmatian: Perdita's long-lost husband!)
True, I think there was also a scene at the end of the book after Cruella gets caught she developed Marie Antoinette syndrome ( which causes someone's hair to turn white after a stressful/traumatic event) but since one side of her head was already white that side turned green.
I mean, her backstory doesn't excuse her actions whatsoever-and actually in my mind, when I saw those episodes of Once Upon a Time, it only made it worse--she's truly an insane animal killing b****. She's a heartless woman hell bent on killing animals to get fur she finds beautiful.
Explaining motivations and justifying motivations are two different things. You can explain something and it can still be horribly inexcusable. Please be mindful of the distinction.
I just figure Gaston has a case of full-blown narcissistic Personality Disorder. In their heads, they are the most important person in the universe. They draw people in and can be very charismatic. However those who get to know narcissists closely often grow tired of their antics and see past their appealing exterior. I feel as though Gaston went so far simply because Belle definitely hurt his ego and fed his narcissistic brain a fact he can't handle, that not everybody loves him. I have no pity for Gaston. Whether he has NPD or not he's a braying jackass with a nasty cruel streak.
Random Potato That's funny because I love Markiplier and I thought that actor was cute. If he even slightly resembles him, maybe that's why. I didn't think he looked like Markiplier upon seeing him, though. Markiplier's cuter, anyways. 😉
Tara Tara I don’t know - Luke Evans is pretty cute. But he is gay, still awesome, but means that ship will never sail. He really is a great actor though. He played Bard in the recent Hobbit movies.
I think it's because oftentimes the villains have more character development than the protagonist. The good guy is usually young and has little experience with the world, which is where children can relate and like those characters. As we grow older though, and we understand things we used to not, we can begin to see that the world isn't just black and white.
Maleficent the movie takes a lot of liberties and tries to humanize her when her appeal came from being deliciously evil and loving it. She was essentially royalty and yet she wasn't even invited to a celebration paupers were allowed to come to. Of course milady would be spiteful. They're just lucky she didn't burn the place to the ground as a dragon. Try watching the Nostalgia Critic episode on it.
"remarkably similar" my ass. Look, just please do the smallest bit of research on the Greek mythos? They are completely different and Disney made no effort to make it the same.
every bad character in disney movies has a tragic story. they can not be evil just like that and doing bad things can not be done just for fun. we need to understand that and know them better before we do some acusations. (sorry for my bad english)
Hades did get the best wife though even though it's only for half a year. Persephone was the beautiful daughter of Demeter. We just didn't get to see his love story. I always believed she ate six of those pomegranate seeds on purpose to stay with him.
I have ptsd & several mental illnesses/have been through ab*se so like... that doesn’t give them any excuses tbh? I try not to hurt people. It’s not that hard to be a decent person.
Tyler needsalife without wanting to respect you, people react different to trauma. Some people become "nice" and some people don't and both of the "types of victims" are valid!!!
I hate how Disney mostly sees things in black and white. They always seem to assume heroes are all good and villains are pure evil despite the fact they aren’t. Other villains who didn’t originally start off evil would include Captain Hook, Morgana, Gothel, and Randall.
People should tell Disney to stop perceiving things in black in white and making their film's filled with black and white morality. The only Disney movie that didn't have black and white morality was Treasure Planet.
Though the Irony of it is some of the animated series had tons of Gray characters, Talespin and Gargoyles comes to mind, and I never considered Gaston truly as evil.
Original HCA Little Mermaid, the Sea Witch was NEUTRAL and unrelated to the King of the sea, she was NEVER a villain. She even *warned* the little mermaid the price to pay was HIGH and N O T worth it. But the Little mermaid was headstrong and infatuated by the prince, and begged to be turned human regardless of the pain and sacrifice. The Sea Witch even gave her *a second chance* when the prince chose another woman to marry, and said she should kill the prince, stab him in the heart, and when his blood trickled/dropped onto her feet, and she'd return to being a mermaid. But seeing him sleep peacefully next to his true love (the princess he married over the LM) she couldn't do it and chose to become the seafoam as per the original terms of the spell. But since her act was selfless, she was made the SPIRIT of the sea. >_> the origin story here is so wrong.
That's why I think european versions of fairytales are much better. Even because they thematized the dead also for little children in kind of a sweet way (Like a version of the little mermaid where the seafom is full of beautiful flowers in the morning sun. Or as a classical how cinderella speaks with/about her mother sitting near her grave. )
Disney didn't invent Quasimodo and his story... it was from a novel written by Victor Hugo. And the way Quasimodo lives, given the historical period, is quite realistic.
"Frolo practically saved and raised Quasimodo" You do remember the part where Frolo ordered Q to be killed, then the priest begged Frolo not to, then Frolo spared (not saved) Q so he could use him later. Also, Q was raised in and by the priesthood of Notre Dam; Frolo certainly had no involvement in Q becoming the man he did.
King Steffan. Phillip was the prince. Also in the original stories Melifecent was one of the strongest fairies and tempermental. The king and queen did not invite her due to a lack of plates and thought not having a golden plate for her would offened her.. some how it did not occur to them to just move some one over and invite her anyways. So I do actually think the hated movie gives her a much more indepth reason to be mad.
"You're a bad guy, but this does not mean you're a bad guy"
-Zangief (Wreck-it Ralph)
Daniel the Cat duh
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someone call scully and mulder ^^
@Luca Devine if what Jessie is true then I doubt that will make it to the history channel because the history channel actually does there research and disney doesn't and that's why I can't stand watching it in the modern version. I would hate to see toy story and the Incredibles in the modern version.
The people who wrote the Disney movie Hercules obviously had NO idea of the actual story of Hercules. Hades was supposed to be the most fair minded and least petty of the Olympian gods. It was actually Hera who was tormenting Hercules to punish Zeus for cheating on her with Hercules mum.
What should they? Homewrecking in a Disney movie? And Hades is the king of hell for the Americans that means devil =the bad guy
Acutely Hades is way different then hell there is even a place for the exstreamly good people "blessed dead" called Elysium Fields/Plains, then there are levels for how "righteous " you lived your life, all the dead go to hades, then you go through judgement, then you go to the fields of Elysium, Asphodel, or Punishment
Disney knew the story but as per their m.o., they rewrote it. Cheating spouses are taboo in the Disney animation world.
You know how Disney goes. Making the dumbest versions of beloved stories with great music to make up for it lol.
Unlike this channel they knew Disney simply rewrote it like many people do with stories. It's about being inspired not doing the exact same thing.
Honestly, this is literally how Hades became how he did:
Zeus: So Poseidon you'll have the ocean, I'll have the sky, and Hades? Oh- Oh you'll love this-
*You get the basement.*
Greek myths paint a somewhat different picture:
Even tho Zeus defeated their father, the Titan Cronus, he, Poseidon, and Hades drew lots for which realm they would rule.
Now imagine Hades, Lord of the Sea. :)
@@teabearchurchill5600 I-
In every version I've read, the three brothers drew lots (or straws) to see who would get what. Hades getting the Underworld was just the luck of the draw.
Sorry to kill your joke :(
@@kittycatkyla2344 No, it's fine! I know that's what actually happened, I just say this because I find it funny. That, and the way Hades gets treated kinda suits it.
@@teabearchurchill5600 Ur actually right Poseidon and Hades were actually arguing at some point about dis
"The Hunchback of Notre Dame was a child-friendly--"
"AHAHAHAHAHAHAWHAT?!"
Compared to the novel, it definitely was.
compared to paris at the time yea.
@@m.m.124 Compared to Paris at the time Texas Chainsaw Massacre is child friendly
@@belland_dog8235 why you need a frolo
"He did practically save and raise Quasimodo." Um... no. He murdered Quasimodo's mother and was going to drown him in a well before the priest guilted him into sparing Quasimodo. Then he kept him locked up in a tower his whole life.
Not killing someone when you can kill someone is saving them. Even if the life they have isn't what they would have had without you showing up in the first place.
This is a very late reply but Claude did save him. The story of quasimodo was that his parents didn’t want him due to being deformed so they left him in a box in town square which is somewhat of a way of adoption back in the day. Frollo found him and it reminded him of his little brother. So he took him in and raised him as his own son.
Miss Démone Claude did save Quasimodo in the book but wasn’t he still a jerk?
Kristiniqua I never read the book but based on what I’ve heard in the book version Frollo was a pretty decent guy until he luster after Esmeralda and that list drove him to insanity and then everything started going very wrong very very fast.
He’s talking through the book version. Frollo adopted Quasimodo because the helpless deformed baby reminded him of his sick brother that he had to take care of by himself. He found him on Quasimodo day and that’s what he was named after.
I dunno if this was from somewhere but my literature teacher told us about Cinderella's stepmother's story too.
She said her name was Freesia and she was not so pretty, but she was kind and helpful. She met Cinderella's father and they both fell in love with each other. They were about to get married when Cinderella's father met Freesia's cousin, who was beautiful, and he left Freesia for her. Freesia's cousin and Cinderella's father got married and had a child, who's our girl Cinderella. On the contrary, Freesia got forcefully married with a guy who she didn't love and had two girls. Freesia's husband died after some years and she was all alone with the two girls. Cinderella's mother had died too. Freesia then met /him/ after some years and they fell in love again, so they got married. Freesia didn't like Cinderella cuz it reminded her of her sadness and suffering. When he died, Freesia was completely devastated. She thought her life was just going worse and worse. She mistreated Cinderella just because she couldn't look at her without thinking of her cousin who betrayed her.
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I love this! Thanks for sharing
Oooh. I like this back story!
You have a good literature teacher
Thats a cool backstory! It should be more popular!
In all Greek myths, especially the story of Heracles, Hades is shown to be very respectable and willing to return the favor for anyone who respects him. Heracles shows him respect and Hades allows him to take Cerberus with him as long as he doesn't hurt him with a weapon. So obviously he cares about his dog and isn't stubborn and extremely violent and or self absorbed as a lot of the other gods... *cough* ATHENA *cough* .
Griffin Ray *coughs* HERA!!!!!
Whih iswhy he is one of my favorite Gods in the Percy Jackson Mega Saga.
You should watch percey Jackson
I did. It sucked. All the characters are misportrayed.
Connor Waltob You mean read, right?
Thank Goodness They Did Not Bring Up Kronos And He Eating His Children
I mean I actually thought they were gonna go into the whole myth
Billie yes and that he cut off his dad’s d***
....Right......I forgot......
Lol ya it would be funny if he did tho
@@nocturnalanimals5884 Hold up........I didn't know this!!!! :\
King Steffin was who betrayed Maleficent, Prince Phillip was who kissed Aroura
No wat wait i need to see dat movie again
Thank you. This was the part that bothered me the most about the video
He kissed his daughter.
HOME SWEET ALABAMA
Thank God someone said it. I was reading comments to see who brought up the Stefan issue. Wound me up 😂
Clint Hayman I was literally about to say this !!
Umm... I feel offended. Maleficient fell in love with a boy named *_Stephen_*
_Philip_ was Aurora's love.
Pro Procrastinator He Got Mixed Up Jeasus People!!!
exactly! in both the original cartoon and later in Maleficent the king's name was STEPHEN. Aurora marries Phillip. seriously, the dimwit who narrated this video needs to do a little more research before making any more of these videoes
the queen of hearts story is pretty of sad... i loved the movie but was disappointed at the ending i wish that the mawde her head shrink when her and her sisiter made up- as is the anger going away an so then does the swelling of her head wish is actually just all her anger she save up over the years.. when it didnt happen i was a bit disappointed. :(
Sisiter??
so do I :0
@@LivingEpicness1 we all make typos occasionally.
I barely understood this with all the typos, no offense.
To be fair, that would make sense. Which is kind of what Wonderland is totally against
I actually like sassy,angry,shady Hades XD
summerwhite6 RIGHT
summerwhite6 he's literally Meg's gay friend/over protective ex beyfriend.
who doesnt? he is the best character in that movie, no doubt
Can
Same here! :D
For Hercules, actually, Hera is not his mom. Zeus fell in love with a human girl on earth. When her husband was sent off to war, Zeus disguised himself as her husband, went down to earth, and Hercules was born. When her husband came back, she realized her mistake. Zeus went back up to the gods, but Hera was furious. Remember when baby Hercules fought pain and panic when they turned into snakes? Those snakes weren’t sent by hades, they were sent by Hera to kill baby Hercules. When he was sent to earth, he had to complete his 12 challenges in order to join his father on mount Olympus. Crazy, right?
Actually Hera manipulated him to kill his family so he had to complete the 12 things to become forgiven.
from what I have read, actually the human women abandoned the baby to die in fear Hera would kill her, feeling that his son deserved better he pleaded with Hera to forgive him and spare the child from the cruel elements and to let him live on mount Olympus. Hera annoyed said fine but he would have to complete 12 tasks before he could so. so he was spared and when he was old enough he would be welcomed into Olympus. Hades had no part in this besides being annoyed that Cerberus was dragged from his job.
@@funnypasta6155 No after he was abandoned in the forest Athena found him and sent him back then when he grew up he killed everyone and had to do 12 things then he got married again but his wife thought he was cheating on him so an evil centaur gave her a vial of centaur blood which he said was a live potion and when it touches Hercules skin he will forget about all other women then she put the blood on his shirt and Hercules put on the shirt/toga and centaur blood is actually like acid so Hercules melted then Zeus made him a god. That's the official story but there are about 70 other versions
So basically in every version zeus was a pervert and a whore🤔
Titus Petersson I think her name means husband killer or something.
“Disney’s Hurcules is incredible similar to the original”
Um... *awkward cough*
annagabrielle yes even the name is wrong it’s Heracles Hercules is his Roman name.
@@nocturnalanimals5884 In most Greek tales he is known as Hercules, because he and Hera hated each other. The Greeks kind of accepted that.
Silly Bean no. Hercules is used in rome. the original is greek and they called him HERAcles. he was named this to appease the goddess Hera so she would take pity on him, but of course Hera was having none of that. when the greeks mention anything to with him they call it “HERAclean” not “HURculean”
There are so many mistakes in this video, it shows nobody cared to do actual research. Hercules story was not even close to the Disney movie! Once Upon a Time is not the source of Cruella’s story but a non canon story (in the book, Cruella was always an eccentric girl who was so obssessed with spots that she was expelled from school for drinking ink in an attempt to get them). And it is well known now that the writers of The Little Mermaid had planned to make Ursula Triton’s sister who he exiled because of her imperfections (since she was half octopus). I won’t even watch the rest. This is your job, do it better.
They also say Ursula is a “step sister.” Adopted siblings are just siblings lol Not to mention that Cinderella is based on the folk tale, which is nothing like what this video mentions.
YAS YOU ARE SO RIGHT
SO RIGHT omg, there are SO MANY MISTAKES in this video, it is PAINFUL to watch!
Ale V. Omg yes this channel and the binger the things all are so bad in research
Cruelella devil
Cruel-ella-devil
Cruel devil
Seems about right
It's Cruella de Vil, you uncultured swine!
Add the fact that "ella" means "she" in Spanish...
Cruel she-devil
Fun stuff. :)
Makes a lot of sense.🤓
@@BrandeeMack I wonder if that was actually by design? Like the name of the Lone Ranger's partner, Tonto, meaning silly or fool.
So Ursula is basically Loki
XD yeah
Yep pretty much
Loki and oden are actually blood brothers
It would make an interesting theory if they were within the same timeline.
😂😂😂😂
Here's my one issue with the Cruella backstory. You claimed she had been born a sociopath, But that's physically impossible. People can be born psychopaths, but sociopathy is developed overtime by abuse and manipulation
Actually, that's not true. About 50% of what a sociopath is comes from hereditary things- as in, things they're born with. What's most likely is that she was born a sociopath and, this being a guess, had some amount of small trauma. Her father isn't present, so that could have easily been her first small trigger into beginning manipulating people from a young age and possibly causing harm to other people and animals as a way to deal with her emotions. And as her mother tries again and again to remarry, her lack of empathy makes her see those men as invaders, people who could potentially leave her just like her biological father had, so she kills them. In fact, the vast majority of diagnosed sociopaths DO NOT come from abusive households, and while she was clearly abused, sociopath or not, sociopaths are not born of abuse.
@@sebastianlugo5781 in once upon a time version he was telling about, she killed her own father. So in that case it couldn't be the reason for her socialpathic behaviour. In my opinion she was just crazy
In the original book (The Hundred and One Dalmatians, by Dodie Smith) Cruella was always odd to say the least. She was apparently expelled from school for drinking ink according to the character Mrs Dearly (no first name, becomes Anita in the Disney version.).
There is not sufficient evidence to claim that someone is born with sociopathy or psychopathy. We simply do not know the origins of psychopathy or sociopathy. Personally, I believe that trauma can lead one to switch off compassion
@@quinxiasoaresbarros1144 What do you mean "just crazy"?? There's no "just crazy", just different types of crazy.
I feel like characters such as Lady Tremaine, (maybe) Mother Gotten, Frollo, and Gaston were forged by the toxic environment they lived in and that's what shaped them into the villains of the story.
That being said it does nothing to justify the cruelty and misdeeds they committed.
Hal B. Noire Same! I had never heard this backstory for Gaston before, but I’ve always thought this stuff about Lady Tremaine.
It’s Mother Gothal
@@ryderp.7451 Göthel.
Considering in 17y0 where beauty and the beast takes place it would make sense for Gaston seeing belle as nothing but something to marry. As women didn’t have rights back then
so.. anyone elts think Hades is the nicest god in Greek mythology cause you know he's the only god without acting upon insest or sexual ssault.
Persephone, his wife, is the daughter of Zeus, his brother, and Demeter, Their sister. as in both the sister of Zeus and Hades. All in all though He did have Zeus permission as her father to wed her before taking her to the underworld which most people tend to forget. In that time as long as you have the fathers permission it was culturally acceptable to than take the woman as your bride.
WRONG!!! He kidnapped Persephone and made her to be his wife.
uuhmm.... Hestia? Plus Athena does not have anything do with incest or sexual assault so... check yourself before you wreck yourself LOL
Doesn't anyone remember Artemis?
THANKYOU
never understood the critique on Cinderella. she was a victim of emotional, psychological, and physical abuse. why is it her fault she doesnt "stand up for herself". Do we blame victims of abuse IRL for not standing up for themselves...
Frankly, I'm surprised she can still be nice and kind in that situation.
Yes, absolutely we did. It's only in the last few years that we stopped doing that
I think the critique is on the way it is told, that as long as you can live through the abuse, there's a kind fairy godmother to fix everything. There isn't, so if you actually have the choice to stay in or leave an abusive situation, you shouldn't be told to stay cuz it's going to be fine in the end any way.
Mrs. Elise Patterson, Cinderella pretty much didn’t stand up for herself because, after her father died, she was never taught ways she could. If her father had lived longer, she might have learned ways she could defend herself, but she was instead turned into a maid by her stepmother because she didn’t really care as much for her than she did her own daughters ( she got more care from animals than she did family until she married the prince )
Yep. You get abused for long enough, and you start to crave it. It's sad, and takes decades of therapy to come to terms with and often is irreversible.
I think you confused the names of the prince and Aurora's father. Stephen was the king. Phillip was the prince who fell for Aurora.
Kai'Cee Holloway was just going to say this.
Kai'Cee Holloway I was looking for someone else to have noticed
Stefan
I noticed that myself! Big slip-up , Screen Rant!
Yeah ditto
Ok its a little frustrating that your accepting "once apon a times" made up back stories for these characters as fact......
Yeah those are only cannon if Disney says they’re cannon
THANK YOU!!!
The Hundred and One Dalmatians is actually a really good book (author: Dodie Smith).
If they fit to the character, I don't know why that's a problem.
@@leventebardossy5962 Because then it's not an origin story. Duh.
THANK YOU!!!!! Lol. I was JUST gonna say that!!!!
I love malificent all she wanted was to get reveange on the man who hurt her and betrayed her.
And to be treated like a human being
Dee Lucky#7's But she never was a human being. She was a fairy.
@@jubilantsleep Respect is respect.
YAS
Uuuuuuuuuuuum
"Do you think their past justify their evil ways?"
... One of them is a puppy murderer. You can never justify that.
Stephendw Hillary Clinton advocated the abortion of babies, but the media justified that.
You're one of those people then? I might not understand but you're saying that the abortion of an embryo or fetus (not baby) is bad? gtfo
I HATE DOGS
I'm a cat so...
Christian Ali here we go again
Ugh, I hate the revisionist idea of Cinderella that people feel the need to bash it. Because it's totally okay to bash someone for "not standing up for themselves" when confronting someone who has abused them since early childhood. When will this trend die? This is not okay. I thought people had caught on that this was no tokay. Cinderella didn't anticipate marrying the prince. She just wanted a break from her long term abuse. And it's NOT okay to say she should have stood up for herself. That's a LOT harder than it sounds for long term abuse victims. Did you ever stop to consider what would have happened to her if she tried to stand up to her stepmother? Honestly wish people would stop treating kindness as a weakness. Try actually watching the film before you tell us women what is empowering or not. It took bravery for that girl to even go to the ball after what they did to her.
Yeah, I didn't agree with the take on Cinderella in this. If you were abused by the one person in a position of authority from childhood and made to believe you were worthless, the psychological damage would be almost insurmountable. In fact, Cinderella not going bonkers crazy and becoming a villain herself is a testament to her nature as a caring loving person. Her mannerisms and 'passive' nature as this take on her story put it is entirely the Step Mother's fault. I have little if any sympathy for the step mother--she was second only to Cruella in petty cruelness and her backstory is no excuse to treat a child so badly.
BIG MOOD
Well, at least in the Grimms' original fairytale, the step-mother receives a punishment.
THANK YOU. I was so annoyed when they said that, seriously... Stop blaming the victim.....
It's Cinderella, not the modern times. She doesn't have the strength to go against the person that broke her for many years.
It was King Stephen. Hot Philip. Philip is the one who married Stephen’s daughter, Aurora t:
Gummy Heart Hot Phillip indeed
Hades is the sassy gay friend lmfao
"STEPMOTHER"? Her name's Lady Tremaine, jeebus.
Then why call Stephen, phillip? Phillip was the prince arura falls in love with. Stephen was aruras father
Honestly, I don’t respect her enough to care if he said her name or not. She’s not one of the best Disney villains, in my opinion.
Well... all villains have backstories. They aren’t just doing it for nothing. That doesn’t make them ok to do this.
RedNinjaSteel #Awesomeness joker is an exception
Spencer Morgan umm.....
(3 hours later)...........
Selfish?
Fish Scales joker wasn’t in here
Fish Scales I think there were some backstory to the cinematic joker, as his father cut his mouth while he asked “why so serious?”
but I don’t have a lot of knowledge about DCU so I may be wrong
RedNinjaSteel #Awesomeness What about Fiodora from OZ?
remember when Claude Frollo sang a 3-minute song about rape?
When I first heard it I got a creepy chill down my spine but it's also one of my favorite songs to sing 😂
😱 so creepy and perverted😓😱
I didn't understand it until i got older. I had always wondered why my parents reacted so weird to that song
I didn't understand it quite, either, other than he had some feelings for her. But no one in my family acted weird because of this, it's just that it's creepy when you look back at it. :D
in the original, he kidnapped, raped, and then killed her
"saved and raised young Quasi Modo"
yeah after he murdered his mother... >_>
Haha true he did not saved Quasi, he just felt too guilty to kill him in front of God!
Thank you!
He didn't save him. He was going to kill Quasi too. But the guy from Notre Dame stopped him. Got frollo to feel guilty enough to raise him, even then ended up trying to kill him again.
In the book frollo actually did save quasimodo; quasimodo's parents abandoned him because of his deformity at a church and frollo pitied him because it reminded him of he and his brother being abandoned by their own parents and he didn't want quasimodo to suffer the same fate. In the book, frollo is a decent person until he is driven insane by his lust for esmeralda
@@AllyHalliday like, Quasimodo was the gipsies child, he was tossed to Esmeralda's mom, and Esmeralda was kidnapped. So, he was brought to church by Esmeralda's mother. Tadaa
And almost drowned him in a well 0_0
Maleficent's history is with King *Stefan*
Phillip is the name of the prince that Aurora meets later
Honey you mean HUNKULES
Alora Drake LMAO
Alora Drake __ HOO HOO HOO I’D LIKE TO MAKE SOME SWEET MUSIC WITH HIM
@@lorrelaibrandt5255 😂😂
In Cinderella's defense she was abused her entire life and people that suffer abuse often have no sense of identity and low self-esteem so she was trained to always stay in the house and do whatever they say that's part of why she is so passive can't really blame her when it's not her fault she was abused but yes the story is morally bankrupt.
Kailyssia Pym no, it's really not.
@@robokill387
Can u say more then just " no, its not" 🙄
If Gaston has PTSD, why does a line in the movie imply thinking about the war makes him happy and calms him down when he's upset? I thought the implications were that he enjoyed being at war because he enjoyed violence.
Renafly because some PTSD victims put on a front to hide the pain from others.
I'm no expert, but I think thrill-seeking is a fairly common coping mechanism to PTSD. I'm not sure what the exact logic is, but perhaps KNOWING you're in danger is easier to cope with than THINKING YOU MIGHT BE.
Renafly Violent conflict is one of the best ways to end pain without directly getting your hands dirty. If you know what I mean.
Really? I don't think Scar could have been banished if he was invited by his brother to celebrate Simba's baptism.
And I don't think Mufasa would make the trip over to his place (which by lion's standards isn't too shabby) to express his disappointment that he didn't come to the ceremony, meaning he was expecting him to show up.
And while I can't confirm if it's true or not, I'd read that the father treated and loved both sons equally. Even when Scar couldn't take the throne, he made sure that he still held a position of influence and basically appointed Scar as Mufasa's right-hand man; which I'm guessing did not fly well for him.
But when simba was a cub he killed his father
Hal B. Noire mufasa could have welcomed scar back y’know
They still named his "trash."
It's actually King Stefan not Philip. 😂
I really hope that, should any of these villains not already have a live action appearance, Disney will give them one that let's us see their backstory. However I don't want this to become another Maleficent incident. The villains' characters should not be altered for the sake of making us feel bad about them. Yes, we should sometimes be able to sympathize with them,but not to the point where that outweighs the *Evil* deeds they have or are about to commit.
In fairness, while certainly the ending was altered from the animated version--her backstory isn't outside the realm of possibility. The original Sleeping Beauty does start after a large portion of the events that take place in Maleficient's backstory.
better late than never Well actually I thought maleficent was pretty cool.
Cheyenne Williams it was good, and I won't take that from you. I thought the effects were pretty good, I just don't want them to try to humanize their villains more than is necessary.
better late than never oh no I totally agree with not humanizing all of them. But tbh sleeping beauty wasn’t all that exciting and is rather boring. I thought that adding the maleficent part of the story added so much more to the story and honestly made much more sense as to why she put the curse on aurora. But they can’t do that with all villains.
Cheyenne Williams I can't wait to see what they do with Mulan when they get to her film.
I'm pretty sure "Cruella De Vil" comes from "Cruel Devil."
Cruel she-devil***
I think scar was emotionally "scared" for life. (get it ?)
Scarred lol
Why
god, maleficent had such a bad rap. i would LOVE to see an author adapt her story as the protagonist / antihero the way elpheba was in "wicked".
Andromeda680 That’s pretty much what happened in the Angelina Jolie movie. A bit darker and less of a coming-of-age story, but she’s definitely sympathetic in it.
watch the 2014 spinoff
Well I learned from the KH series that Maleficent is pretty fair
No completely disagree, Cinderella is a symbol of hard work, determination and staying true to who you are in the face of years of mental and emotional abuse.
Kris Turner she Was a social path who killed her mother’s husband’s which is why her mother locked her up
@@ghostdragon5735 who
PREACH
It's king Stefan, not Phillip, Prince Phillip is Auroras love interest in sleeping beauty
Ummm ya know stuff on once upon a time isn’t actually canon to the original movies.....
YEAH 👏👏
It's the original storyline thou, Disney ones are basically just the pussified version of it.
Charlie Wingham Did you know the channel that shows once apon a time is owned by Disney
Why not? Isn’t ABC Disney though?
They're not canon, but it still gives the best origin stories ...Well mostly, I hated their rendition of aladin and jasmine
Actually the ORIIGNAL story of Sleeping Beauty, the Unnamed "Old Fairy" (Disney gave her a name, Maleficent) Wasn't invited to the christening because she was so old everyone assumed she was dead. Bad Assumption, Tragedy ensues. You don't diss a fairy.
"I.....was.....slleeppping!, how many times I gotta tell yeah I'm not dead.....that's it lets see you YOU feel when I make everyone think YOUR dead but really just SLEEPING!!! MUHAHHAHAAA!!" wow evil genius right there 👏👏👏
This guy knows his fairy tales! Huzzah, another enthousiast!
Another version states they had only 12 golden plates and so they did not invite the 13th fairy.
Poseidon *CAN NOT DIE*
HE IS A *GOD*
Maybe he left to go to Olympus
Even gods can die
@@akithyasamarasekara1045 Not from old age, and wtf else is there to kill him in Ariel's world
Incorrect. Even gods can be DESTROYED
I would have liked to know the background to Madam Mim 😂
@@Alsebra I was about to say it's probably Morgana, but you make valid points. Mim really was just a trickster sorceress, not a threat to the kingdom like Morgana.
Disney really needs to make lore movies or something.
Once upon a time isn't enough.
That little mermaid story about Ursula would've made a gr8 prequel.
They did Maleficent, they should totally do Ursula.
Actually, the correct term for Cruella is a Psychopath. No one is ever born a sociopath. Psychos are the way they are from birth. Socios experienced something traumatic and remembered it.
And Scar? Sociopath, not psycho.
Luke Martin she was LOCKED IN AN ATTIC! Cmon that can’t have helped
Outrageous claim. No one is born a psychopath, just like no one is racist.
Psychopathy is caused by a difference in brain chemistry and structure that is present from birth. Do some research and you can find all sorts of interesting things about it.
I study psychology and criminology at uni and if you truly research it. All psychopaths are sociopaths, but not all sociopaths are psychopaths as they share the same symptoms, however psychopathy has more symptoms that can be more severe, thus being the worse of the two. As for the cause, there are many and can usually not be pinpointed. There are many genes and chemical hormones that can contribute to such antisocial personality disorders. However experiencing traumatic events tends to act as a catalyst to the two. I Believe her to be a psychopath as she displays most symptoms for sociopathy as well as psychopathy. She has a superficial charm, lack of remorse, she is impulsive and manipulative and lacks any deep emotional attachment, those are a few examples. Check ya facts people
You can try to make sympathy all you want... But Frollo is pure evil in my book. I don't feel sorry for him.
This is hard to believe, but Claude Frollo was even worse in the original work by Victor Hugo.... By the way: don't read it if you are hoping for a happy ending....
@giveagoodsong Huh? I know Quasimodo was abandoned by his birth family (in fact, I think they stole a baby girl who grew up to be Esmeralda and left Quasi in her place!) but I didn't catch that their abandoning him caused his deformity! I thought they dumped the poor kid BECAUSE of this deformity.
I FLIPPIN' LOVE OUAT (Once Upon A Time...)
The king in Sleeping Beauty, AKA Aurora's father, is named Stefan, not Philip.
Their circumstances, don't mitigate the bad they did. One doesn't have to give wrong, when they have been wronged.
I can understand there is a why someone would do something bad but that doesn't make it "right". It really annoys me when people don't take responsibility and blame their behavior on their past. You can be more than your past. You can rise above it and still be a "good" person.
Hades is justified
Gaston's sidekick was named Le FOO, NOT Le FOE
It’s LeFou
Le Fou, meaning "The fool"
hades was actually barely involved in the original story. it was hera who tried to kill Hercules
hazarddex Hades shows up for a little bit when Hercules had to capture Cerberus for one of his 12 labors and Hades tells his nephew to not hurt Cerberus with a weapon
All heroes win in battle but All the villains win the fans
Agreed lol 💙😂
Troooo
As much as I like the show, OUaT is not canon. For instance. according to the original book "One Hundred and One Dalmatians" Cruella was a schoolmate of Anita's, who was always messed up (Cruella was one expelled for drinking ink). No backstory; just a born messed-up, narcissistic sociopath. (Side note: In the original book, Pongo's missus was simply called Missus; Perdita was a young mother Dalmatian whose puppies were taken from her and Roger found her on the side of the road, noticed that she could be a milknurse to help Missus, and took her in. There were 97 puppies rescued, including Pongo's & MIssus' 13 and Perdita's pups. I know that adds up to 100: the last chapter of the book, titled "The One Hundred and Oneth Dalmatian" explains the last Dalmatian: Perdita's long-lost husband!)
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True, I think there was also a scene at the end of the book after Cruella gets caught she developed Marie Antoinette syndrome ( which causes someone's hair to turn white after a stressful/traumatic event) but since one side of her head was already white that side turned green.
Thank you! I love Dodie Smith’s book, and when they started talking about OUaT, i was like “uhhh NOPE”.
I love the book too! I was so excited when I found it at my local library a couple years ago; I can't find it anywhere else
Karen Fahel Disney is owned by Disney
Nope. Still hate Cruella immeasurably.
I mean, her backstory doesn't excuse her actions whatsoever-and actually in my mind, when I saw those episodes of Once Upon a Time, it only made it worse--she's truly an insane animal killing b****. She's a heartless woman hell bent on killing animals to get fur she finds beautiful.
Yeah! SHE KILLED PUPPIES!!
I can see that. Your profile pic is a dog.
Even if her fashion sense is amazing (live action movies, I loved the designs for her wardrobe.) I'd NEVER wear real fur or leather
She is so twisted as a villain.
Explaining motivations and justifying motivations are two different things. You can explain something and it can still be horribly inexcusable. Please be mindful of the distinction.
For anyone thinking that Hunchback of Notre Dame was scary, if you read the book as a kid, you would have needed therapy for years
I just figure Gaston has a case of full-blown narcissistic Personality Disorder. In their heads, they are the most important person in the universe. They draw people in and can be very charismatic. However those who get to know narcissists closely often grow tired of their antics and see past their appealing exterior. I feel as though Gaston went so far simply because Belle definitely hurt his ego and fed his narcissistic brain a fact he can't handle, that not everybody loves him. I have no pity for Gaston. Whether he has NPD or not he's a braying jackass with a nasty cruel streak.
I just realized how much the live-action Gaston looks like Markiplier
well i would not say the were lookalikes, but i wont deny the similarities
Random Potato lol
Bonjour, bonjour
Random Potato That's funny because I love Markiplier and I thought that actor was cute. If he even slightly resembles him, maybe that's why. I didn't think he looked like Markiplier upon seeing him, though. Markiplier's cuter, anyways. 😉
Tara Tara I don’t know - Luke Evans is pretty cute. But he is gay, still awesome, but means that ship will never sail. He really is a great actor though. He played Bard in the recent Hobbit movies.
King Stefan, not Phillip. PHillip is the prince Aurora ended up with in the animated film...
Stepmother = Lady Tremaine
I don't know how to spell her name
Creulla de vil, cruella de vil, if she doesn’t scare you, no evil thing will.
Just the villains alone are messed up especially cruella
Panda Bo and Ursula
Ruby Jane yea that's true
dd plush and more yea she's a psycho! I would do the same
Especially cruella
i love her because i hate dogs!
Well...you know you are growing up when you start to like the villains more than the actual protagonist of the story😂
I think it's because oftentimes the villains have more character development than the protagonist. The good guy is usually young and has little experience with the world, which is where children can relate and like those characters. As we grow older though, and we understand things we used to not, we can begin to see that the world isn't just black and white.
Where's The Evil Queen from Snow White?
Or Evil Queen Regina from Once Upon a Time???
The101genco They are the same person. And I guess OUAT took care of that origin story. Lol
They share her story on OUAT
My name is Regina
8:08 The king was actually King STEFAN. Prince PHILLIP was the true love of Aurora
My cats name is Jaffar(Jafar) and he's just the sweetest and most loveable cat. He had that name when i adopted him. His 5/6 and a Tabby
Cruellest story was so harsh lol I know she's a villain but it was great none the less
Solrac Hernandez wich story?
Holly Ham Cruellas story lol
Holly Ham I think when they said cruellest they meant cruella’s
As in it was a typo
Maleficent the movie takes a lot of liberties and tries to humanize her when her appeal came from being deliciously evil and loving it. She was essentially royalty and yet she wasn't even invited to a celebration paupers were allowed to come to. Of course milady would be spiteful. They're just lucky she didn't burn the place to the ground as a dragon. Try watching the Nostalgia Critic episode on it.
The stepmother is named Lady Tremaine.
Which was mentioned once in the video, if you pay attention...
Christelle is lady tremaine’s first name
"remarkably similar" my ass. Look, just please do the smallest bit of research on the Greek mythos? They are completely different and Disney made no effort to make it the same.
I thought Aurora’s father was King Stephan and the prince is Prince Philip
The Hercules movie BARELY had any accuracy in it.
It had NO accuracy. Except God name pronunciation.
It's actually Stefan not Philip
every bad character in disney movies has a tragic story. they can not be evil just like that and doing bad things can not be done just for fun. we need to understand that and know them better before we do some acusations. (sorry for my bad english)
Just watch the tv series ‘Once Upon A Time’ everything is revealed!
its King Stefan, Phillip is the prince that saves Aurora
Hades did get the best wife though even though it's only for half a year. Persephone was the beautiful daughter of Demeter. We just didn't get to see his love story. I always believed she ate six of those pomegranate seeds on purpose to stay with him.
I have a feeling Dr. facilier had a lot of trouble with his parents, who were royalty.
His mom was most likely a Voodoo queen
all villains have backstories if they didn't then why would they be called villains?
What about Lord Dominator from "Wander over Yonder"? As far as we know she did not have a tragic backstory and did evil things for the sake of evil.
Cause they're dicks like Lord Drakkon
Quinn Fletcher I never seen it so how should I know?
love the video, but the guy Maleficent falls in love with is Stephan (Stefan?). Phillip is the prince.
I already know Maleficent’s backstory
Because my mother is obsessed with the villain-
I wish that Disney, which I LOVE LOVE LOVE, would stop just making live action remakes. DO SOMETHING NEW.
I have ptsd & several mental illnesses/have been through ab*se so like... that doesn’t give them any excuses tbh? I try not to hurt people. It’s not that hard to be a decent person.
Tyler needsalife without wanting to respect you, people react different to trauma. Some people become "nice" and some people don't and both of the "types of victims" are valid!!!
I hate how Disney mostly sees things in black and white. They always seem to assume heroes are all good and villains are pure evil despite the fact they aren’t.
Other villains who didn’t originally start off evil would include Captain Hook, Morgana, Gothel, and Randall.
GothGirlXenon So then don't watch Disney films.
People should tell Disney to stop perceiving things in black in white and making their film's filled with black and white morality.
The only Disney movie that didn't have black and white morality was Treasure Planet.
Moana.
Though the Irony of it is some of the animated series had tons of Gray characters, Talespin and Gargoyles comes to mind, and I never considered Gaston truly as evil.
Fairy tales are usually black and white because the point is to teach a lesson. The characters are less important than their actions.
Me:cinder okay
Him:shows her sister walking in a door
Me: they have fat. butt
scar could have easily killed simba and won if it wasn’t a Disney movie
Nuclear Banana11 lol yeah.. but that would be depressing AF
Ann Marie Casey I would’ve liked that ending
Would have too. New lion takes over the pride, it eats the lion cubs of the old boss.
It's always interesting to see which parts of an animated story ppl wish to make more realistic while overlooking all the others.
He reaised Quasimodo. You forget tortured him he's entire life!
Original HCA Little Mermaid, the Sea Witch was NEUTRAL and unrelated to the King of the sea, she was NEVER a villain. She even *warned* the little mermaid the price to pay was HIGH and N O T worth it. But the Little mermaid was headstrong and infatuated by the prince, and begged to be turned human regardless of the pain and sacrifice. The Sea Witch even gave her *a second chance* when the prince chose another woman to marry, and said she should kill the prince, stab him in the heart, and when his blood trickled/dropped onto her feet, and she'd return to being a mermaid. But seeing him sleep peacefully next to his true love (the princess he married over the LM) she couldn't do it and chose to become the seafoam as per the original terms of the spell. But since her act was selfless, she was made the SPIRIT of the sea. >_> the origin story here is so wrong.
That's why I think european versions of fairytales are much better. Even because they thematized the dead also for little children in kind of a sweet way (Like a version of the little mermaid where the seafom is full of beautiful flowers in the morning sun. Or as a classical how cinderella speaks with/about her mother sitting near her grave. )
Thank you~!
Gaston just needs a hug and a cup of chocolate I swear.😣😟
Nope he needs therapy and a lot of help he is crazy
m m that too
If I met Gaston in real life I'd have to hit him. He's just too dang arrogant
Disney hates people with deformations
Disney didn't invent Quasimodo and his story... it was from a novel written by Victor Hugo.
And the way Quasimodo lives, given the historical period, is quite realistic.
"Frolo practically saved and raised Quasimodo" You do remember the part where Frolo ordered Q to be killed, then the priest begged Frolo not to, then Frolo spared (not saved) Q so he could use him later. Also, Q was raised in and by the priesthood of Notre Dam; Frolo certainly had no involvement in Q becoming the man he did.
King Steffan. Phillip was the prince. Also in the original stories Melifecent was one of the strongest fairies and tempermental. The king and queen did not invite her due to a lack of plates and thought not having a golden plate for her would offened her.. some how it did not occur to them to just move some one over and invite her anyways. So I do actually think the hated movie gives her a much more indepth reason to be mad.