Man, I'm so tired of seeing these youtubers getting outed for sexual acts against a minor. Why can't we have a TH-camr who got busted for buying crack or something? 😒
The stuff that Shane did truly shocked me. Not because of who he is but because my mind would never even think to go to such dark and disgusting places so I guess it's just extremely shocking to hear people's disturbing thoughts. Like who would think to do that to a cat? It's so sad and weird. Every time I hear the voice recordings of Shane saying those things it just leaves me feeling hopelessly disgusting and uncomfortable.
That's why you should NEVER get too attached to an online personality. Because no matter how long you've been watching these TH-camrs, you STILL don't know them, and they don't know you.
7:32 For what it's worth, Markiplier actually went through a similar run of grooming/pedo allegations back in 2015 due to how overly friendly he is with his fandom, as well as how young his community generally is. Obviously these accusations were debunked and/or recanted, but it bears pointing out that 3 false allegations in a year isn't the craziest thing a creator of Dream's influence has dealt with
Yeah I don’t even like Dream, his content is boring to me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if all of it was fake. The internet was dunking on him after his face reveal, and you know when the internet hates you, allegations will come left and right.
@@davidarvingumazon5024 Not what I said. I don’t have an opinion on it because I didn’t even see the evidence nor did I watch Dream’s video, I was just saying it wouldn’t be surprising if it was false.
@@Not_ZioI’m used to be a dream fan (I still like his videos but not what he does) and stopped being one after realizing his videos are staged and he isn’t bad looking. Gumball roasting him was funny and I’m on Nick’s side.
@@davidarvingumazon5024They might be true, but what are you gonna do about it if I believe them? Not a damn thing, that’s what. Apologize to your mother for being a mistake.
What happened to Dream is honestly scary. Like, imagine obsessing over someone so much you make false allegations WITH screenshots and a fake snap. After watching his video, I can't imagine how this man can still be on the internet having fun; I would die inside. People are just horrible.
Creepshow Art is by far my favorite example of a self-sabotage online. I was going "wtf?" when she was exposed for being a lunatic on lolcow but when Emily joined the conversation... holy f*ck! The true cherry on top was her long awaited response only proving her guilt accidentally. I really wonder what Shannon is doing now.
it’s crazy that she could’ve just separated from her r*pist stalker husband and probably gotten out of the controversy relatively unscathed and she just… doubled down.
@@walkingexistentaldread3079 Indeed but it's way crazier that she didn't respect the warning(s) from lolcow moderators/owners themselves asking her to just stop breaking the site's rules. She literally just needed to stfu and it's likely Emily never posts about her. Good riddance though.
Same with Illuminaughtii. The amount of self-sabotage she did in her own 'apology' was wild, like she literally put a persons Su*cide note into the video to make herself look better. Along with many other things that she has said on twitter.
@SleepyPlasma He forced himself on Emily when she was too intoxicated to resist. It's one of the most heartbreaking stories I've ever heard directly out of the mouth of the victim. It's seriously soul-crushing but Shannon is worse than even him imo. She's deranged and obsessed with taking everything from Emily. She married her ex, copied her sketch story-time format, and even lied about having her own stalker only after Emily opened up about her trauma at the hands of Shannon _without_ naming her.
Honestly, I’m glad that dream made a video addressing the allegations but it truly shows how fake accusations can literally DESTROY someone’s life and reputation
I just found your channel yesterday with the Dr Kim video and I gotta say, I have been binging them since. You’re so well spoken and thorough. Thanks for the content and awareness you share!! Keep up the good work man
I find it weird how EDP is getting what he deserves by not being able to live a life after getting a cupcake but others like Shane Dawson still have a following and are able to live a life, even becoming a soon to be terrible father with 2 kids who will soon live inevitably terrible lives
If I had to guess I would imagine Shane is less affected by the pedo controversy because unlike EDP who was caught red handed Shane has made very inappropriate comments but hasn't been caught actually doing anything with a minor.
@@danem2215 fron what i see Dream is (or was) cultishly loved because he's: 1. A faceless creator with an attractive voice, this led people to believe that he's a very attractive guy, unfortunately for them he was an average looking guy. 2. His friend group is very loved, namely people like Tommyinnit, Ranboo, Fundy, George, Techno (rest his soul) and i can't be bothered to search the rest. Said people were also very sexualized by some unhinged Twitter users. 3. Twitter, i don't have to explain this. 4. LGBTQ-friendly attitude, this might be a somewhat weird theory, but Dream and co is very LGBT friendly and whatnot. In my experience creators who are openly and overly friendly/"accepting" (pandering) to LGBT audiences also get the most unhinged of the bunch, as well as "safe spaces" which is a very sneaky term for echo chambers. Also, male audience who also happen to be gay or bisexual see this as a way to be more openly attracted to Dream. 5. Minecraft, very accesible game, girls and boys alike play it a lot. In my experience the most unhinged people in Dream's fanbase happen to be straight girls or gay guys i.e the ones that are most likely to fall for someone like Dream. 6. People establish fandoms for things like DreamSMP and stuff. 7. Fostering parasocial relationships, bro calls his fans "kittens" and does not take accountability for his fans' unhinged actions. However, i do not think that Dream's unhinged fanbase is that big, just that they have the loudest voice. Now for why he is hated: 1. Unhinged fanbase, i will say, Dream's fanbase can be very unhinged and annoying. Which leads people to hate him because he's the root of it. Especially if Dream does not care wtf his audience does. 2. Annoying pandering to LGBT, safe space bullshit leads to echochamber leads to very strong takes regarding LGBT. I mention LGBT a lot because i recognize most of his unhinged fans are LGBT, but i think this goes for a lot of fandoms. 3. See Dream as a boogeyman for all these problems. 4. Ride on the bandwagon because they want to belong to the crowd. It's all speculation though lol, it's just based off of what i see.
My opinion as someone who got really into Shane Dawson at 13: I don't really care if he's changed because enough damage has already been done. He made content directed at teenagers that contained some of the worst stuff I've ever seen/heard, and he always had an excuse. Being a kid at the time, I trusted him and thought the things he did were ok because he said they were. But as an adult, I look back and realize how much his content messed me up. Those videos were aimed at people whose brains were nowhere near finished developing, and he played up all of his sympathetic traits and his tragic backstory to manipulate us into thinking he was a good person. I think one of the main ways that manifested was desensitizing teenagers to p-filia jokes. Looking back, that desensitization had a huge impact on me. It feels like some mass form of grooming. There's so much more I could say, I feel like I could write a book about it.
I could not agree more. I also started watching him when I was around 13 back around 2009. I never came forward about my abuser when I was young because Shane’s grooming content made me think no one would take it seriously or care.
I only watched him during the makeup drama era, where he was getting familiar with Jeffree Starr and making pretty much useless clickbait “documentaries”. Even then his content was lazy, and the kinds of jokes he makes in his old videos are not appropriate, he knows/knew what the age of his audience is/was.
i completely agree. i started watching him at around 11-12, and now that i'm almost an adult, i cant believe that i was exposed to that humor. and i still have some of his merch and books which honestly makes me want to vomit
@@annie3746 Wow! That is awful, and I'm so sorry you had to go through that. He needs to be held accountable for all the very real harm he caused, even if he wasn't abusing people directly.
ii dont blame them. dream never got repercussion for endangering dozens of people by sending his fans to attack everyone who he sees hating on him. I'd be pretty mad if I was one of his victims. literally all of them had their home addresses leaked in minutes and all he did was celebrate it. hes a villain.
@@beans4126 yes, no one should make grooming allegations because “they don’t like someone”. It’s just that dream encouraged doxxing and has made insensitive jokes against people.
The problem with the dream allegations is people go at others that they hate with no evidence or faked evidence I’m not one of the meat riding dream fans but I don’t think it’s okay to accuse someone of grooming minors because you dislike them it’s become a common occurrence
fr, people literally want him to be a groomer and say he is even if the evidence when the evidence is shown to be flawed. All this because they think he is a cringe minecraft youtuber.
His allegations are basically a meme at this point so it’s really hard to tell whether any of it is real. Sucks. Probably won’t affect much though, his fans are DEVOTED
the complicated thing about dream is that he is HATED because of his fandom. whenever a content creator has a female-majority community, they become extremely hated. I don’t even care for dream, but it makes it hard to figure out which allegations are valid and which stem just because he’s so hated. Again, he could be guilty or not, I don’t care, but him being so hated makes it hard to tell what’s true or not.
So personally, I'm not in the business of making fun of children but when dream kids would make their way into the spaces I was a part of, they would always really annoy me just because of how much a lot of them placed their identity around dream universe shit. I don't even know if these people were boys or girls, but it was just a level of commitment that made me want to be "please diversify your interests... please present yourself as a person with an identity beyond dream fan"
You make a good point, but the main criticism that Dream and his fanbase got was that his fanbase is extremely unhinged (I'm talking drawing g0re p0rn of Dream and his friends, d0xxing people, etc). Dream straight up refused to address those people. While he isn't responsible for the actions of his fans, he could have at least addressed it like people were asking him to.
Boogie is not on the verge of homelessness. He lives in a very expensive house that he could sell, and he bought it when it was very cheap so he would be making a profit on it. But he refuses to give up that house specifically even though he could downsize and be fine.
He has tens of thousands of dollars worth of toys and plastic shit laying around his house he could sell and use the money from his sold house to get a house half the size of his, which is 5 Bedrooms for one adult man. It's child level shit. He's like Cartman.
He never finished paying off of his mortgage even when he was making hundreds of thousands a year. He has maybe $100K in equity if he sells and tens of thousands of dollars in debt.
about the editing in dreams video, i initially thought it was weird to do so much editing for a response video. however, when you think about it, it makes sense. you dont want people to look away from a video youre trying to debunk SERIOUS allegations against you in. to make a long format video have a bunch going on will allow people w even the shortest attention spans actually pay attention. its smart in the end
Fr in this day and age an hour long video of a single guy in front of a camera won’t enough to persuade anyone especially if your fanbase is mostly under 18.
So proud of this dude I remember when you were 10-20k subs when you made the smoking edp pack at the location he got caught now you’re almost 2 million deep it’s amazing keep grinding bro seriously.
Gotta call you out on Boogie not always being a pity party, the man's content has ALWAYS been an enormous pity party, same now as a decade ago but back then people sympathised with him and were supportive of him, treating him with kid gloves all the time and insisting he was just so lovely. Only thing that changed over the years is that he never changed, and everyone else wised up to that.
I've never watched his videos, the only thing I know about him is the videos of him flipping out or pretending to, while playing WoW.... He just seemed crazy...
In some of his earlier videos he used to be much more positive and express gratitude towards his followers, as opposed to the newer videos where he is just begging his subscribers for money
In some of his earlier videos he used to be much more positive and express gratitude towards his followers, as opposed to the newer videos where he is just begging his subscribers for money
absolutely love to see videos like this again, I hope the demonetisation finally stopped so we can all enjoy these types of videos, honestly I really enjoy your content like the discord and reddit mysteries and crimes I watch on repeat even the TikTok ice bergs when they first came out, ur work is really amazing so keep up the good work
I think Dream should be in another video, like the one where someone is falsely accused of something serious by some random people, it's sad that he has to be put in a video that has shane dawson or edp in it. Dude just played minecraft with friends, worst thing he could have done was being 'cringe' or having unintentionally cheated in a game. He debunked all of the allegations in a really well constructed video and, honestly, it was so obvious that those allegations towards him were fake. Idk, just to point that out.
@@noahk3496 Dream doesn't belong in this video regardless because he didn't ruin his own life, and I don't think even he considers his life ruined. Not once in his response video did he mention once that his life is ruined. In fact at the end he says he just wants to move on and keep being positive, having fun, and making minecraft videos.
As Tuv said if he never dmed fans none of this would of happened you can argue he was smaller back then blah blah blah but this all 100% could of been avoided doesn't matter if he did it or not (grooming) he was apart of his downfall rather he meant to or not especially with the way he responded on Twitter I truly do think if he didn't send out mass tweets about the situation and focused on making his video he wouldn't be getting as much backlash as he currently is
On a real note I feel like Dream gets alot more allegations due to him being a "Minecraft TH-camr" rather than any other CC of any other niche on the platform but those are just my thoughts.
The Dream situation feels like a "He said, She said" thing. Nothing can really be believed, but I can see kids getting upset that their favorite youtuber wouldn't reply to them and then doing something insane because they don't understand how serious it is. No one has shown bad images that dream was said to have sent them, and there are no videos of him harassing anyone. Its all just texts that are the easiest things to fake.
yeah exactly!! and people have this thing where they just hate on things so they could fit in w the internet. i just know he does minecraft stuff and now suddenly he is being accused of grooming w out any proper proof?? people on the internet are so gullible. im sure it was prolly jus some prank to pull or something but this is too far
@@justcallmeluke7254 I remember most of them admitted that they were lying about their accusations idk about the accusations today cause i got tired looking at it but im sure it's false too
You can dislike dream and find him cringe (as do I) however accusing someone with fake allegations over grooming and pedo is so weird, especially with the doxing too. This destroys other peoples lives and careers just for the sake of disliking someone? He owned up to his own mistakes and is taking a break which I think is good for twitter. The dream haters are only hating because they aren’t watching his response 🤨 Dream haters are way worse than the stan’s ngl.
thank you for being one of the few people to correctly acknowledge that the haters are so much more toxic than stans. (obviously the stans that go overboard and actually stalked him are awful no doubt, but that is such a small minority of his fanbase, most of them are pretty chill people just having harmless fun in their own niche corner of the internet.) a lot of people continue to blame his fans/stans almost entirely for all the negativity he has faced, when a lot of his fans have also been victimized throughout his career simply because they like him. people who (usually parasocially) hate so intensely that they want him to be a pedo so their hate can be "vindicated" or to where they threaten harm to dream/his stans, are so, SO much more disgusting and toxic than stans who love their favorite content creator too much. hate will always be more harmful than love, even unhealthy/parasocial love.
@@samanthaxo819 be real dream made this enviroment he should have told his fans to chill out instead he just encouraged them to be stans i said way back it was going to bite his ass
To answer your "why come back?" question, I see it in a few ways: 1. Their channel isn't terminated 2. Staying offline would be letting the haters win 3. It proves to yourself and those watching the kind of dedication you have to your channel and career that you'll bounce back. "What won't kill me will make me stronger", sort of thing. Not to say I respect these creators or what led to their downfall but I do begrudgingly respect their commitment to their channels
I’m so upset that Dream is getting all this hate. He never got any of these allegations before he did his face reveal. But after he did his face reveal, everyone started hating and then he started getting allegations. This is just getting insane. This really shows what idiot people can do someone’s reputation.
THANK YOU! I'm no Dream fan, but this angers me that Tuv included him on this list. It's misinformation at its finest, and he talks like Dream did do it.
He’s not really a TH-camr anymore, but Nicholas Cantu has been acting extremely weird lately and his drunken rant didn’t help him. I’m surprised that people are calling him a goat despite how rude he was being to that Uber driver. Something’s really messed up with him.
@@sleepyotaku42but Cantu was 20 years old, he is a fucking adult and should know that alcohol is bad. He is responsible for his actions. Also, Dream didn't provide any alcohol, it's pretty obvious that Cantu was in the wrong here.
@@MelagmYup, I've been a fan of Nick for a while and it really sucks that he's being like this. I know he has bipolar so I wonder if it's been taking a toll on him lately.
@@areakastudios6704im bipolar and i have been in that same mindset when manic. not saying that makes it an okay way for someone to act, (even though I'll admit i laugh at him roasting dream so hard, sorry its just so funny to me,) but i can just see the mania radiating from him in that vid and being intoxicated def makes it sooo much worse
I went to high school with Brook Houts. She was a grade or two above me; she always had a RBF walking around campus, wasn't surprised to see her blow up for what she did
Mini Ladd and Shane Dawson hurt me the worst, it’s crazy that they got away with stuff so easily, and they tried to push it under the rug. I was fans of them for a long time, and it’s sad to see how badly they spiraled.
All of the allegations against dream were false and it honestly pisses me off that people are still calling him a pedo after he hit up the literal police station to prove a point in his video, the accounts that accused him even deactivated. These mfs gotta leave the man alone and all the people that were on the hate train need to seriously do some self reflection, they wanted him to be a pedo so bad that some of them are still in denial
It also feels extremely weird to me as an european, because here you see people with an age gap of 3 years all the time and no one really says anything, so how would a 20 year old dating a 17 year old be an issue? The only real issue i see is the fact that they'd be a fan of them.
@@thehoneygrabberzThe issue with that is regardless of the law surrounding age gaps and whatnot. The fact of the matter is 17’s still a minor and regardless of the age of consent in your country or place of living, that 17yr old is still more immature and doesn’t know shit as opposed to a grown adult
@@kingvulcoon1752so when someone turns 18 they just suddenly know everything? That’s stupid asf and age is only really bad if the younger person has either known them for a rlly long time or if the gap is massive 20 isn’t even that old either lol stop hating just cuz u wanna hate
False allegations are becoming more of a problem. People should remember the case with the ghost cosplayer guy that offed himself because he was falsely accused by a girl that was underage that even admited on falsely acussing him. So sad for the real victims because they are getting less credibility because of these false acteurs i honestly think legal repercusions and laws should be implemented for falsely acussing online, special laws with harsh sentences. It feels like false acussations have an huge impact on the victims even if the allegations are disproven. It is not okay
agreed. part of the problem is that there’s no repercussions. the false accusers just delete their acc and that’s it, no consequences, while the accused is left with a ruined reputation. this can’t keep happening
Never thought I’d ever hear the disgusting words of “Mini Ladd” to come from TUV but I’m glad you’re addressing this issue so more people can see how much of a terrible person he really is.
It sucked to hear what Ohmwrecker started for literally no reason. Craig being just worse than that and not taking anything seriously to actually address his flaws.
I havent even watched the video and Im already disappointed in Tuv. While yeah Dream is f-ed up and kinda dumb to be honest....He needs his own video, or to be put with people that have also done what he has done as well... I dont even know much about the minor allegations against him. I know he isnt stupid enough to do it, but I know that absolute disdain for him as well.. Plus, if it was actually true. Alot more woulda been done then what feels like putting it in a jar on the shelf.
What is really disgusting is that people say to “believe all victims” even when they are lying a lot of the times. Dream is cringe but that was messed up
No actually lying about a sexual assault is rare . Don’t try to delute the rest of the world because you can’t be bothered to do any research on the topic.
@@Nizhonibearcreekand how exactly did you get to the conclusion that lying about sexual assault is rare? Kinda hypocritical to say that op didn’t do his research but then say such a baseless statement with no evidence.
I do genuinely think the reason why there's so many allegations against Dream is down to the way he conducts himself with his fans. Dream's online persona has cultivated the perfect storm for para-social relationships with his fans. Dream was adding fans to a priv account on Twitter and interacting with them on messaging apps. Dream's followers seem to think stuff like this is okay or the norm, and that being messaged by their idol is a huge honour. This complicates the matter of raising allegations against him. Because these people were fans and likely wanted to make Dream feel comfortable, things typically wouldn't be saved if there was deplorable/illegal activities going on. Even if Dream hasn't groomed anyone, he's put himself in a pretty terrible situation due to his prior activities and normallising his presence on a personal level with his fandom. When you're adding people to "private" social media, that's a conscious effort. For someone who wasn't showing his face, he was and in ways still is incredibly accessible to his fans. At least far more than the average influencer.
@@kingvulcoon1752 nah. He didn’t dig himself into anything. I don’t see a problem with anything he did. He ISNT doing anything illegal or immoral, hence him being completely innocent and should never be in a negative light.
@@ILoveTVShowsAndStuff There are times where you have to realize that you can be as nice and lovely or whatever else as you wish, as upstanding- however, holding the door open for this stuff to happen is in of itself your fault.
There was a youtuber i followed when i was 14, i found a way to comunicate privately with him. I always think fondly of that because even if he was 18, and i would constantly flirt with him he would always find a way to turn me down and just be friendly. I was literally asking for him to groom me, and he chose to be intelligent and not do it. I always thank him for that. He stopped uploading videos three years ago. I hope he's fine.
It may have been respect worthy how he dealt with it, but it's a truly disturbing sign for humanity when people feel grateful to others for not being pedos. It is extremely common for kids to have crushes on someone too old for them. It is something kids need to be warned against acting on, in case it is a creep they like, but they aren't asking to be groomed. The older teens/adults shouldn't be bothered necessarily, but recognize it as something that the kid will grow of. The crush should be either ignored, or the kid gently explained to that it would be inappropriate for anything to happen. This can start very young. One of the most common first crushes for children(we're talking as early as kindergarten) is their teachers. Of course at that age it's very different from a teenage crush.
i'm ashamed to say that i enjoyed alot of these guys when i was younger (besides dream of course which was about 2 years ago) and seeing my childhood youtubers crumble down. really struck me deep. although seeing Jordi making a comeback to get his vibe back, all i can really do is just hope that one of my childhood youtubers can grind back to what there content WAS
As someone who had no idea about any of the Dream allegations until his video, I feel sorry for that guy. I only ever seen two videos from him, the face reveal and his response video, and it seems like he didn’t do anything at all.
I will say it definitely it is better to watch videos that talk about Dream as a whole because he has done slot of other prove-able things that are wrong. I am very fair on Dream, the grooming allegations are pretty heavy and it does seem like he may be innocent, but he also has done many things like abusing the parasocial relationship with fans, racist things, and overall being a petty person that very much made him unlikable. Edit: For a suggestion on covering everything in his career, I would recommended TheGamerFromMars video of the controversial life of Dream
nope. no reason to feel bad for him. he intentionally feeds his parasocial fans so he can weaponize them anytime he dislikes someone. hes done it more times than I can count and almost every victim had to leave the internet out of fear for their safety. most notoriously a young black , trans, AND NEURODIVERTGENT fucking CHILD exposed his racism in his near past and he got them harassed so much that they were begging people to stop harassing them and leaking their home address, to which he responded "it's so satisfying watching someone private their account and delete their tweets after I call out their bullshit". which is not even what happened. the screenshots were verifiably true. his fans just harassed the person so bad that they were afraid for their life and he found the situation "satisfying". dream can fucking burn in the deepest pits of hell. hes done this countless times. google dream doxing and you'll find like fucking 15 cases. he knows what hes doing and he takes pleasure in it. anytime someone dislikes him and he sees it, their life is shortly endangered
@@goingferalluvs You mean racist things as in when he did a scream that could vaguely be similar to a Native American one? Buddy, if you took every sound that every human being has EVER made you'd be able to make EVERYBODY a racist by the logic you just used. Context matters in a situation where somebody is being called a racist and simply making a sound, whether blatant or not, is not inherently racist. If I talked in a stereotypical Chinese accent for example that alone by itself is NOT racist. Probably won't be funny, but only an ignorant ass stretches it as far as being a racist.
You're pulling things out of your ass, this isn't twitter, you don't need to try to recruit people into your bully sphere. You people get so riled up whenever you see anyone even NEUTRAL about dream, it's actually insane obsession. Dream disproved every one of those allegations, the "racist things" he did was doing a "native american war cry" when he was 14, and being 'petty and unlikable' isn't even a reason, that's just you wanting a valid reason to be a bully. I'm so done with these people man, leave him alone@@goingferalluvs
I would say that Iilluminaughtii also ruined their career in such a short time. There were literally allegations of her ruining someone’s life and putting them in debt
It’s a good thing that Joji decided to leave Pink Guy alone or else he would end up as IDubbbz. Probably the best decision that George has ever done in his internet career.
The worst thing about the EDP situation is that because his and generally youtube audiences are younger, they don't understand the gravity of the situation and how he is still a free thing afteris genuinely diabolical, as a result, they won't take any sort of abuse seriously in their own lives.
when i was younger i would sometimes edp’s video if it came up on my feed and tbh i found it hilarious. but as time went on, even before the allegations, i just felt weirded out by him. he’s a grown ass man, 400lbs, acting a fool on the internet and rants about the most random things.
Its truly crazy to ponder about how someone like EDP could have just gone without being found out; TWICE. Like imagine him being on par with all of the mainstream youtubers like MrBeast and others.
As a former EDP fan that most likely wouldn't have happened. He would have gotten more subscribers for sure, especially with the resurgence he got from Tik Tok, but his content wasn't the most original and innovative stuff out there. The main thing he had going for him was the lack of filter but even that was getting old, screaming obscenities isn't exactly genius and record breaking.
And in such a way for him to be exposed instead of the intention of informing the viewer, to entertain them in the way of which irony is shown because he's now an entirely new term for a pedo rather than just a pedo in itself if that makes sense.@@lobodesade6780
this video is actually perfect bc i was dying my hair and it had to be on for 30 mins and i just watched this and used this vid as a timer lmao. also rly cool videos, im so happy i found you, keep going!!!
#25 trending on gaming, i just wanna say im glad yt is pushing out your content tuv, you work too hard to not get the love you deserve , keep it up my fellow bean
Even though Dream made a response video to the allegations, it doesn’t seem like people are going to let it go anytime soon. He keeps getting clowned on in his TikTok profile and Twitter is worse. 💀 TH-cam is the only platform where I’ve seen people be supportive of him.
I'm not a Dream fan, but this is very, VERY false allegations against him. It's been proven that he was innocent. Might want to fix this because it's misinformation there, Tuv
Most of these big TH-camrs I notice are afraid to outright admit Dreams innocence. They almost always seem to still be on the fence on this even though the allegations were proven false. They’re losing my respect.
@@IronicalChronicalsame honestly. It's pretty gross to see people continue to drag an innocent person through the mud just because it's trendy to hate them. I'm saying this as someone who has been a fan of Tuv for a few years now.
I think no one has ever really been an internet punching bag at the same level as dream. I urge anyone who feels compelled to harass him or his family or give his accusers the time to do research first. False accusations only subtract from the credibility of real victims ❤️
he basically created this on himself, he went on ego trips, he bent the knee when twitter decides to stir up stuff, that he doesn't care about one minute but when he gets a huge amount of people deciding to attack him for him not caring about a 200 follower account calling him out for using a navajo race theme(From an old movie that the song is now public domain), he was shown to not have a spine, and when people can get a person to respond to them when the person shouldn't really be caring or responding, he showed he was spineless and would do anything to keep his image perfect.
@@ahsokatanogaming7401and tens of people showed how they were spineless when they would they would try to make dream look like a pedo only to either state that they were lying and delete the threads or delete the account all together. Just because you don’t like how someone acts doesn’t it’s ok to try and ruin their lives and reputation.
@@PickinTheSpango I guess you are just the worst at guessing ages. I don’t like dream. I don’t hate him, but I’m not a fan, never was, and never will be. Minecraft was never my thing and never will be. I should correct myself. He might not be innocent of all the accusations (I didn’t listen or have watched anything about him. Hardly know the accusations), but the ones people make just because he’s dream; should not happen. You can’t deny that many are fake without any solid proof or even photos, and that’s what I meant. What I meant was he should have the right to prove or disprove these allegations without people immediately considering them as the truth.
@@reavz8262 it's so interesting how yall hated him back in 2020 because of his fans and cheating in a speed run, but as soon as serious allegations can to light, yall suddenly are defending him? and i don't just mean the allegations about him being a groomer. him being racist, ableist, giving a minor (under 21 in this case) alcohol and filming him having a manic episode. some of these are confirmed, but ofc suddenly your type if supporting him all of a sudden
What incident was the one where he gave a minor alchohol? I'm losing track.@@Chris-ot9bk This is an edit. I'm going to be straightforward with what I was going to say the first time. I was going to say that reavz didn't even know about dream during the fake speedrunning era, so your statement of "suddenly defending him after the fake speedrunning" does not apply to him. I also know (well at least now I'm certain) that you are mentioning the Incident with Gumball's VA. Please go watch Dream's response video to see the driver's response about that situation (Nicolas was being an absolute jerk, and I promise you if ANYONE else was in the car with him, Nicolas would be facing very serious backlash from the same people such as you trying to defend him.)
@@gregoryblack8109you talking about the response in which he literally verifies that he talked to a minor??? Are we saying that he is a good person for accidentally proving that he is a groomer????
Thx for the early Christmas present with this video! Hope we get more, cuz I mean have you seen how many YTbers ruined their careers? It’s like a gigantic gold mine for people like you.
anastasia: had “proof” dream was in her contacts because of him being “in her contacts” on tiktok when google voice is android and would NOT have blue messages. amanda: is a groomer, rapist and drove a child to suicide. she also admitted she was lying several times. jamie: said she was not groomed and to leave her alone, AND the burner said the girl that sent them the videos was lying.
In any cancelling situation I always choose to believe the victim first because there is only one way it could go wrong believing the person who is being accused
Something I noticed is that whenever someone is about to defend Dream, they have to mention that "they hate him" or that "they're not a stan". Since when has "seeing one as innocent until proven guilty" become stan behavior? Jesus christ, grow a pair of balls y'all. At most all dream did was make a few weird tiktoks, took some cringe snapchat pictures and is way too naive and dumb as far as twitter goes. Aside from that, the guy is your everyday joe. Yeah, he has 30 million subs but he's still your average 22 year old who simply struck gold and made some mistakes. You don't gotta like him, but there's no need to hate him either. He's not a punching bag, he's a human being like all of us
Because when you try and defend him, people will always call you a crazy fan or whatever and disregard your argument. So people preface their statement with “I hate him” so they don’t look biased. Or maybe they genuinely hate him.
After watching the full dream video a couple of days ago And yesterdays tweet on the matter I came to the conclusion that dream is innocent However, you may disagree with me
@@Jxvger The fuck do you mean gets people harassed? The people being harassed are the result of either putting it on themselves or other people trying to make him look bad by digging into the personal lives of the supposed victims. Dream has had no part in anybody getting harassed. And of everybody that has been harassed in this situation, the amount of harassment Dream has dealt with isn't even remotely comparable to everybody else. Dude has had to go to ridiculous lengths to keep himself and his family safe. His fucking 80 year old grandmother was even being harassed. Plus, we've established by this point that if somebody new does accuse him there's almost a 100% chance that it's just more bullshit from somebody trying to ruin his life.
@@Jxvger And that's deserving of death threats, life ruining false allegations multiple times, his family being threatened, being SWATTED, and all the other things that've happened???
@@Cardinal_claw all of that besides the swatting was done to the people mentioned. also to the special ED person saying the people brought it onto themselves, he admitted to the racism allegations and downplayed them from the first person who he got harassed and bullied off the internet. so yeah, keep coping. dream is a monster. he deserves worse
I remember my first time hearing about Dream. It was when it was announced he was planning to reveal his face. My reaction was... "Who...?" I had to look up what was his niche and time of airing and it turns out I was one of the few slipping in the cracks where he didn't register on my algorithm. It was because of my interests on TH-cam, the time of my job, and the special days I work causing it.
Any time a TH-camr, usually male, gets a considerable following, there's always someone accusing him of gr00ming. This is getting fucking ridiculous now.
Man it's just sad that there are people that would come to their own conclusions w/o listening to the other side🤦♀Especially with the dream situation, people really hate to just hate
the shane one hurt the most because from a young age I watched shane all the time and I never realized the stuff he said was wrong and now that I am older and realizing it, it hurts more.
I do think that he got so many allegations from Fans he got to close through parasocial relationships. Kinda makes sense to me if Fans gets to obssesed with a person that doesnt reply back anymore. Ppl do crazy stuff when they turn in to yandere's.
Merry Christmas Eve and eventually Christmas! I hope you get a good break and get to see family these days. I hope your mental health is good after looking at these things all year for us. Much love to you!
In my country (Brasil) there was this incredibly famous Minecraft TH-camr who said that it would be okay to have a nazi party in the country, because fReE SpEeCh. He fled to the US and nowadays claims he's being unfairly attacked, he even compared himself to the Jews during the Holocaust. I can't express how stupid and absurd it all is.
Dream is cringe but hes innocent, the accusations were so bad, we only had a few pieces of evidence that made no sense, he already disproved everything
Merry Christmas Eve Eve! Stay safe!
Merry Christmas to you too tuv
I luv tuv
Marry Christmas Eve to you as well tuv!
you know whats up
Merry Christmas Eve eve
Edp ruined his life so bad, he became a new term for pedos. That's the craziest way to ruin your life and career.
And the “cupcake” incident is now a meme 😅
One day historians will be explaining the origins of the phrase "EDP situation"
You know you messed up when your name is not only synonymous with pedos but it also becomes a more popular name for those things
Its all for the best
To say he had a career is crazy
Man, I'm so tired of seeing these youtubers getting outed for sexual acts against a minor.
Why can't we have a TH-camr who got busted for buying crack or something? 😒
jaystations close enough
Buying crack is valid tho
Literally why can’t they get in trouble for stealing or substances not this
It’s the crime that is most universally despised.
NEVER forget glitterforever21 !!!!
I like how edp acts all tough and shit but the moment someone dares him to swing he runs away💀
Nvm I forgot he can't run
More like waddled away
Lmao 😂😂
@@cruelcraft5559 till the very next day bum bum bum bum budda bum
Bro came back not just for seconds but for dessert too 💀
The stuff that Shane did truly shocked me. Not because of who he is but because my mind would never even think to go to such dark and disgusting places so I guess it's just extremely shocking to hear people's disturbing thoughts. Like who would think to do that to a cat? It's so sad and weird. Every time I hear the voice recordings of Shane saying those things it just leaves me feeling hopelessly disgusting and uncomfortable.
Nah fr cuz weird as hell for that
Exactly. Those were not jokes. They were admissions
Reminder that he's really weird with kids, and he recently just adopted a baby.
@@deepcrabHe and his partner adopted 2*
@@deepcrabare you sure theyre adopted. I thought they were from a surrogate, so they are his bio children.
crazy the people we grow up loving and trusting through parasocial relationships end up being terrible people
the fact you even start a parasocial relationship is fucking sad get a life
That's why you should NEVER get too attached to an online personality.
Because no matter how long you've been watching these TH-camrs, you STILL don't know them, and they don't know you.
@@SwaggyG_2102 boom EXACTLY
WE?
@@lilatune im saying through other people's experience and mine
7:32 For what it's worth, Markiplier actually went through a similar run of grooming/pedo allegations back in 2015 due to how overly friendly he is with his fandom, as well as how young his community generally is.
Obviously these accusations were debunked and/or recanted, but it bears pointing out that 3 false allegations in a year isn't the craziest thing a creator of Dream's influence has dealt with
Yeah I don’t even like Dream, his content is boring to me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if all of it was fake. The internet was dunking on him after his face reveal, and you know when the internet hates you, allegations will come left and right.
@@Not_Zio So, you think Dream allegations were true, understandable.
@@davidarvingumazon5024 Not what I said. I don’t have an opinion on it because I didn’t even see the evidence nor did I watch Dream’s video, I was just saying it wouldn’t be surprising if it was false.
@@Not_ZioI’m used to be a dream fan (I still like his videos but not what he does) and stopped being one after realizing his videos are staged and he isn’t bad looking. Gumball roasting him was funny and I’m on Nick’s side.
@@davidarvingumazon5024They might be true, but what are you gonna do about it if I believe them? Not a damn thing, that’s what. Apologize to your mother for being a mistake.
What happened to Dream is honestly scary. Like, imagine obsessing over someone so much you make false allegations WITH screenshots and a fake snap. After watching his video, I can't imagine how this man can still be on the internet having fun; I would die inside. People are just horrible.
Wait, so you think that's fake?
@@lyna7614it’s obviously fake, you can watch his explanation video if you don’t believe it
Its not fake bb😂
he's covering george sexaual abuse, he's still disgusting
@@Zombina638 he proved it fake AND the accusers all admitted to lying shortly after his video debunking everything.
Creepshow Art is by far my favorite example of a self-sabotage online. I was going "wtf?" when she was exposed for being a lunatic on lolcow but when Emily joined the conversation... holy f*ck! The true cherry on top was her long awaited response only proving her guilt accidentally. I really wonder what Shannon is doing now.
it’s crazy that she could’ve just separated from her r*pist stalker husband and probably gotten out of the controversy relatively unscathed and she just… doubled down.
@@walkingexistentaldread3079 Indeed but it's way crazier that she didn't respect the warning(s) from lolcow moderators/owners themselves asking her to just stop breaking the site's rules. She literally just needed to stfu and it's likely Emily never posts about her. Good riddance though.
Same with Illuminaughtii. The amount of self-sabotage she did in her own 'apology' was wild, like she literally put a persons Su*cide note into the video to make herself look better. Along with many other things that she has said on twitter.
@SleepyPlasma He forced himself on Emily when she was too intoxicated to resist. It's one of the most heartbreaking stories I've ever heard directly out of the mouth of the victim. It's seriously soul-crushing but Shannon is worse than even him imo. She's deranged and obsessed with taking everything from Emily. She married her ex, copied her sketch story-time format, and even lied about having her own stalker only after Emily opened up about her trauma at the hands of Shannon _without_ naming her.
@@standoughope Many TH-camrs being subjected from lolcow.
Honestly, I’m glad that dream made a video addressing the allegations but it truly shows how fake accusations can literally DESTROY someone’s life and reputation
@stmsin maybe, but at least he disproved the allegations🧁
it was all fake 😭😭
@stmsinI agree, but noone deserves false allegations.
He didn't disprove shit
Most of the people hating on him didn’t even watch the response
2 years later and I still can’t get over the fact dat EDP really threw everything away for a girl who doesn’t even exist.
Wasn't he busted trying to hook up with real 15y/o this year?
God knows what’s he’s already gotten away with
@@jacplac97 I think, I heard sumn a few months ago about him tryin to meet a 16 year old.
edp isnt the only guity one here like those teens are just dumb why dont they block him if hes a pedo?@@keezymann4655
@@keezymann4655another TH-camr caught him and it’s likely edp will be arrested
I just found your channel yesterday with the Dr Kim video and I gotta say, I have been binging them since. You’re so well spoken and thorough. Thanks for the content and awareness you share!! Keep up the good work man
I find it weird how EDP is getting what he deserves by not being able to live a life after getting a cupcake but others like Shane Dawson still have a following and are able to live a life, even becoming a soon to be terrible father with 2 kids who will soon live inevitably terrible lives
soon to be? them kids done hatched like last week 😭
If I had to guess I would imagine Shane is less affected by the pedo controversy because unlike EDP who was caught red handed Shane has made very inappropriate comments but hasn't been caught actually doing anything with a minor.
@@squaino333 Right, I forgot about that 😂😭
Remember when people would go nuts and kill celebrities? John Lennon got shot, yet these people are still here...
@PeterGriffin11 yeah but what about the cat he abused?
All of Dream's allegations were false, people admitted to framing him, I don't even like Dream but what they're doing is ridiculous
I really never understood why he became so irrationally reviled, or cultishly beloved. He's just a guy
@@danem2215 Because he's annoying and cringe and twitter is just one huge 3 year old
it's mostly because he'll take the b8 he's like one step behind becoming a lolcow @@danem2215
@@danem2215 fron what i see Dream is (or was) cultishly loved because he's:
1. A faceless creator with an attractive voice, this led people to believe that he's a very attractive guy, unfortunately for them he was an average looking guy.
2. His friend group is very loved, namely people like Tommyinnit, Ranboo, Fundy, George, Techno (rest his soul) and i can't be bothered to search the rest. Said people were also very sexualized by some unhinged Twitter users.
3. Twitter, i don't have to explain this.
4. LGBTQ-friendly attitude, this might be a somewhat weird theory, but Dream and co is very LGBT friendly and whatnot. In my experience creators who are openly and overly friendly/"accepting" (pandering) to LGBT audiences also get the most unhinged of the bunch, as well as "safe spaces" which is a very sneaky term for echo chambers. Also, male audience who also happen to be gay or bisexual see this as a way to be more openly attracted to Dream.
5. Minecraft, very accesible game, girls and boys alike play it a lot. In my experience the most unhinged people in Dream's fanbase happen to be straight girls or gay guys i.e the ones that are most likely to fall for someone like Dream.
6. People establish fandoms for things like DreamSMP and stuff.
7. Fostering parasocial relationships, bro calls his fans "kittens" and does not take accountability for his fans' unhinged actions.
However, i do not think that Dream's unhinged fanbase is that big, just that they have the loudest voice.
Now for why he is hated:
1. Unhinged fanbase, i will say, Dream's fanbase can be very unhinged and annoying. Which leads people to hate him because he's the root of it. Especially if Dream does not care wtf his audience does.
2. Annoying pandering to LGBT, safe space bullshit leads to echochamber leads to very strong takes regarding LGBT. I mention LGBT a lot because i recognize most of his unhinged fans are LGBT, but i think this goes for a lot of fandoms.
3. See Dream as a boogeyman for all these problems.
4. Ride on the bandwagon because they want to belong to the crowd.
It's all speculation though lol, it's just based off of what i see.
@@shajidrahamanok but why make allegations that could ruin someone completely
Boogie lost everything on his own accord, and blames everyone but himself. Great vid tuv…very well researched, happy holidays! 😁
W tokemon I love your tierlists man
he went naked on stream today lmao
😂😂😂@@nitansh.
I had stopped watching boogie long ago after he stopped making his Francis videos, and had no idea how bad things had gotten for him....
Still surprised people are paying him after all the shit that was exposed about him.
My opinion as someone who got really into Shane Dawson at 13: I don't really care if he's changed because enough damage has already been done. He made content directed at teenagers that contained some of the worst stuff I've ever seen/heard, and he always had an excuse. Being a kid at the time, I trusted him and thought the things he did were ok because he said they were. But as an adult, I look back and realize how much his content messed me up. Those videos were aimed at people whose brains were nowhere near finished developing, and he played up all of his sympathetic traits and his tragic backstory to manipulate us into thinking he was a good person. I think one of the main ways that manifested was desensitizing teenagers to p-filia jokes. Looking back, that desensitization had a huge impact on me. It feels like some mass form of grooming. There's so much more I could say, I feel like I could write a book about it.
I could not agree more. I also started watching him when I was around 13 back around 2009. I never came forward about my abuser when I was young because Shane’s grooming content made me think no one would take it seriously or care.
Honestly after I saw him hump that puppy and then made out with it I was done.
I only watched him during the makeup drama era, where he was getting familiar with Jeffree Starr and making pretty much useless clickbait “documentaries”. Even then his content was lazy, and the kinds of jokes he makes in his old videos are not appropriate, he knows/knew what the age of his audience is/was.
i completely agree. i started watching him at around 11-12, and now that i'm almost an adult, i cant believe that i was exposed to that humor. and i still have some of his merch and books which honestly makes me want to vomit
@@annie3746 Wow! That is awful, and I'm so sorry you had to go through that. He needs to be held accountable for all the very real harm he caused, even if he wasn't abusing people directly.
People who fake allegations are the worst, just doing it for clout, and it takes away from actual victims.
ii dont blame them. dream never got repercussion for endangering dozens of people by sending his fans to attack everyone who he sees hating on him. I'd be pretty mad if I was one of his victims. literally all of them had their home addresses leaked in minutes and all he did was celebrate it. hes a villain.
@@Jxvger yeah no I still blame them
@@beans4126 same
@@beans4126 yes, no one should make grooming allegations because “they don’t like someone”. It’s just that dream encouraged doxxing and has made insensitive jokes against people.
That’s only in the case of someone who’s never actually groomed anyone. Dream did, though.
The problem with the dream allegations is people go at others that they hate with no evidence or faked evidence I’m not one of the meat riding dream fans but I don’t think it’s okay to accuse someone of grooming minors because you dislike them it’s become a common occurrence
fr, people literally want him to be a groomer and say he is even if the evidence when the evidence is shown to be flawed. All this because they think he is a cringe minecraft youtuber.
They’re acting like dream brutally killed their dog in front of them or something, seriously
His allegations are basically a meme at this point so it’s really hard to tell whether any of it is real. Sucks. Probably won’t affect much though, his fans are DEVOTED
@@kytuneit’s not as bad as it could be but it’s still kinda weird how he conducts himself with fans
@evergreen3337 I don't think he interacts with his fans so much. I don't think responding weeks later is considered interacting so much
i can't believe people can go from zero to nothing, so inspiring!!
I caught that too lol
I can't believe comments can go from useless to even more useless! Absolutely astonishing!
@@S-Groovefr
LMAOOOO HELP
@@S-Groove Is that...directed to this comment?
the complicated thing about dream is that he is HATED because of his fandom. whenever a content creator has a female-majority community, they become extremely hated. I don’t even care for dream, but it makes it hard to figure out which allegations are valid and which stem just because he’s so hated. Again, he could be guilty or not, I don’t care, but him being so hated makes it hard to tell what’s true or not.
So personally, I'm not in the business of making fun of children but when dream kids would make their way into the spaces I was a part of, they would always really annoy me just because of how much a lot of them placed their identity around dream universe shit. I don't even know if these people were boys or girls, but it was just a level of commitment that made me want to be "please diversify your interests... please present yourself as a person with an identity beyond dream fan"
You make a good point, but the main criticism that Dream and his fanbase got was that his fanbase is extremely unhinged (I'm talking drawing g0re p0rn of Dream and his friends, d0xxing people, etc). Dream straight up refused to address those people. While he isn't responsible for the actions of his fans, he could have at least addressed it like people were asking him to.
Boogie is not on the verge of homelessness. He lives in a very expensive house that he could sell, and he bought it when it was very cheap so he would be making a profit on it. But he refuses to give up that house specifically even though he could downsize and be fine.
might be a bit hard to downsize no hate
He has tens of thousands of dollars worth of toys and plastic shit laying around his house he could sell and use the money from his sold house to get a house half the size of his, which is 5 Bedrooms for one adult man. It's child level shit. He's like Cartman.
@@jibberwocky4054 in boogies case, physically.
He is an addict and he has a lot of problems. Spending all your money on prostitutes
He never finished paying off of his mortgage even when he was making hundreds of thousands a year. He has maybe $100K in equity if he sells and tens of thousands of dollars in debt.
Watched this in 214x speed, can confirm this is a certified tuv classic.
May edp soul rest in heaven
Fr?
You’re a real one ✊🏽
fr
HOW!?
about the editing in dreams video, i initially thought it was weird to do so much editing for a response video.
however, when you think about it, it makes sense. you dont want people to look away from a video youre trying to debunk SERIOUS allegations against you in. to make a long format video have a bunch going on will allow people w even the shortest attention spans actually pay attention. its smart in the end
Fr in this day and age an hour long video of a single guy in front of a camera won’t enough to persuade anyone especially if your fanbase is mostly under 18.
So proud of this dude I remember when you were 10-20k subs when you made the smoking edp pack at the location he got caught now you’re almost 2 million deep it’s amazing keep grinding bro seriously.
i hope tuv never commits tax fraud💔💔
LMAOO
Tuv is smarter than that. Seems like an honest kind dude 👍
Are you saying this youtuber doesn't pay his taxes for his youtube content
Gotta call you out on Boogie not always being a pity party, the man's content has ALWAYS been an enormous pity party, same now as a decade ago but back then people sympathised with him and were supportive of him, treating him with kid gloves all the time and insisting he was just so lovely.
Only thing that changed over the years is that he never changed, and everyone else wised up to that.
I've never watched his videos, the only thing I know about him is the videos of him flipping out or pretending to, while playing WoW.... He just seemed crazy...
There was a point where Boogie thought he got the fans by asking them to donate him money. That backfired tremendously.
In some of his earlier videos he used to be much more positive and express gratitude towards his followers, as opposed to the newer videos where he is just begging his subscribers for money
In some of his earlier videos he used to be much more positive and express gratitude towards his followers, as opposed to the newer videos where he is just begging his subscribers for money
Haven’t watched your channel in a while. It’s amazing seeing how much you’ve progressed, another great video.
Tuv is woke 🤡
@@440-fishermandrock8 womp womp
absolutely love to see videos like this again, I hope the demonetisation finally stopped so we can all enjoy these types of videos, honestly I really enjoy your content like the discord and reddit mysteries and crimes I watch on repeat even the TikTok ice bergs when they first came out, ur work is really amazing so keep up the good work
I think Dream should be in another video, like the one where someone is falsely accused of something serious by some random people, it's sad that he has to be put in a video that has shane dawson or edp in it. Dude just played minecraft with friends, worst thing he could have done was being 'cringe' or having unintentionally cheated in a game. He debunked all of the allegations in a really well constructed video and, honestly, it was so obvious that those allegations towards him were fake. Idk, just to point that out.
The video isn't about "TH-camr creeps" it's about ruined lives. I think you would agree that his life will never be the same
@@noahk3496 but its not dream that ruined it? it was literally a false accusations?
@@noahk3496 Dream doesn't belong in this video regardless because he didn't ruin his own life, and I don't think even he considers his life ruined. Not once in his response video did he mention once that his life is ruined. In fact at the end he says he just wants to move on and keep being positive, having fun, and making minecraft videos.
I couldn't agree more, if anything this only paints him in a bad light by putting him in the same thumbnail as shane dawson and EDP....
As Tuv said if he never dmed fans none of this would of happened you can argue he was smaller back then blah blah blah but this all 100% could of been avoided doesn't matter if he did it or not (grooming) he was apart of his downfall rather he meant to or not especially with the way he responded on Twitter
I truly do think if he didn't send out mass tweets about the situation and focused on making his video he wouldn't be getting as much backlash as he currently is
On a real note I feel like Dream gets alot more allegations due to him being a "Minecraft TH-camr" rather than any other CC of any other niche on the platform but those are just my thoughts.
The Dream situation feels like a "He said, She said" thing. Nothing can really be believed, but I can see kids getting upset that their favorite youtuber wouldn't reply to them and then doing something insane because they don't understand how serious it is. No one has shown bad images that dream was said to have sent them, and there are no videos of him harassing anyone. Its all just texts that are the easiest things to fake.
yeah exactly!! and people have this thing where they just hate on things so they could fit in w the internet. i just know he does minecraft stuff and now suddenly he is being accused of grooming w out any proper proof?? people on the internet are so gullible. im sure it was prolly jus some prank to pull or something but this is too far
The only thing that can be believed is that the allegations are false.
@@IronicalChronical not exact that either. More like non can be trusted.
@@justcallmeluke7254innocent until proven guilty 🤷♂️
@@justcallmeluke7254 I remember most of them admitted that they were lying about their accusations idk about the accusations today cause i got tired looking at it but im sure it's false too
i just got a ad about helping pets during the brooke houts situation 😭😭😭😭
You can dislike dream and find him cringe (as do I) however accusing someone with fake allegations over grooming and pedo is so weird, especially with the doxing too. This destroys other peoples lives and careers just for the sake of disliking someone? He owned up to his own mistakes and is taking a break which I think is good for twitter. The dream haters are only hating because they aren’t watching his response 🤨 Dream haters are way worse than the stan’s ngl.
thank you for being one of the few people to correctly acknowledge that the haters are so much more toxic than stans. (obviously the stans that go overboard and actually stalked him are awful no doubt, but that is such a small minority of his fanbase, most of them are pretty chill people just having harmless fun in their own niche corner of the internet.) a lot of people continue to blame his fans/stans almost entirely for all the negativity he has faced, when a lot of his fans have also been victimized throughout his career simply because they like him. people who (usually parasocially) hate so intensely that they want him to be a pedo so their hate can be "vindicated" or to where they threaten harm to dream/his stans, are so, SO much more disgusting and toxic than stans who love their favorite content creator too much. hate will always be more harmful than love, even unhealthy/parasocial love.
2 stans patting each other on the back 😂
@RoarofdalioN Fr the obsessive stans and the haters that dox him go hand in hand loll
@@samanthaxo819 be real dream made this enviroment he should have told his fans to chill out instead he just encouraged them to be stans i said way back it was going to bite his ass
I'm still gonna hate him because that entire thing with the gumball VA is messed up
Dream said "18" and she never denied that. She went with the "18" comment then went on to say that he knew she was 17. Huh?
where did u get this from?
Where’s your source on this claim? Some non existent tweet?
@@jb1023_it’s literally in their messages she never acknowledges that he asked for her age and then he said “nvm 18”
No she didnt lol what evidence?
@@Zombina638 it’s in the video in the screenshots. did you even watch the video? 🙄
To answer your "why come back?" question, I see it in a few ways:
1. Their channel isn't terminated
2. Staying offline would be letting the haters win
3. It proves to yourself and those watching the kind of dedication you have to your channel and career that you'll bounce back. "What won't kill me will make me stronger", sort of thing.
Not to say I respect these creators or what led to their downfall but I do begrudgingly respect their commitment to their channels
not rlly they just want adsense and relevancy
And look at how well that worked for James Ryan Haywood.
I’m so upset that Dream is getting all this hate. He never got any of these allegations before he did his face reveal. But after he did his face reveal, everyone started hating and then he started getting allegations. This is just getting insane. This really shows what idiot people can do someone’s reputation.
I’ll add dream to the list of dudes who had their lives ruined because of false allegations from random girls
Yeah he doesn’t really belong in this video
THANK YOU! I'm no Dream fan, but this angers me that Tuv included him on this list. It's misinformation at its finest, and he talks like Dream did do it.
@@SamanthaMinxhe said he’s not gonna say the allegations were false when they are actually false. This nose ring wearing douche is straight up lying.
Goddamn Ambers
@Abandoned_Account88
Like a lot
He’s not really a TH-camr anymore, but Nicholas Cantu has been acting extremely weird lately and his drunken rant didn’t help him. I’m surprised that people are calling him a goat despite how rude he was being to that Uber driver. Something’s really messed up with him.
That's cause it was against dream and twitter hates dream
@@sleepyotaku42but Cantu was 20 years old, he is a fucking adult and should know that alcohol is bad. He is responsible for his actions. Also, Dream didn't provide any alcohol, it's pretty obvious that Cantu was in the wrong here.
@@MelagmYup, I've been a fan of Nick for a while and it really sucks that he's being like this. I know he has bipolar so I wonder if it's been taking a toll on him lately.
@@sleepyotaku42 "underage" you when a 20 year drinks alcohol and they aren't 21😱😱😱😱
@@areakastudios6704im bipolar and i have been in that same mindset when manic.
not saying that makes it an okay way for someone to act, (even though I'll admit i laugh at him roasting dream so hard, sorry its just so funny to me,) but i can just see the mania radiating from him in that vid and being intoxicated def makes it sooo much worse
I could’ve sworn EDP, was 37 years old when he got started. He looks 52 now. But you’re saying he’s only 33? That’s crazy!!!
I went to high school with Brook Houts. She was a grade or two above me; she always had a RBF walking around campus, wasn't surprised to see her blow up for what she did
Mini Ladd and Shane Dawson hurt me the worst, it’s crazy that they got away with stuff so easily, and they tried to push it under the rug. I was fans of them for a long time, and it’s sad to see how badly they spiraled.
In a positive note for mini, we see the vanoss crew cracking jokes about him
@@m0isturTRUE
As kid I loved mini Ladd, I used to watching his videos 24/7 it makes me really sad that he turned out like this :(
@@Silly_willy-l9nshe was an adult
@@seanbhz wym???
this is a really well done video! normally content like this gets drawn out and goes over the same points over and over again. great job !
All of the allegations against dream were false and it honestly pisses me off that people are still calling him a pedo after he hit up the literal police station to prove a point in his video, the accounts that accused him even deactivated. These mfs gotta leave the man alone and all the people that were on the hate train need to seriously do some self reflection, they wanted him to be a pedo so bad that some of them are still in denial
It also feels extremely weird to me as an european, because here you see people with an age gap of 3 years all the time and no one really says anything, so how would a 20 year old dating a 17 year old be an issue?
The only real issue i see is the fact that they'd be a fan of them.
Yeah he doesn't deserve the allegations but I feel there are plenty of other reasons to hate the guy.
@@thehoneygrabberzThe issue with that is regardless of the law surrounding age gaps and whatnot. The fact of the matter is 17’s still a minor and regardless of the age of consent in your country or place of living, that 17yr old is still more immature and doesn’t know shit as opposed to a grown adult
@@kingvulcoon1752 it highly depends, but regardless it isnt difference enough in maturity that constitutes pedophilia
@@kingvulcoon1752so when someone turns 18 they just suddenly know everything? That’s stupid asf and age is only really bad if the younger person has either known them for a rlly long time or if the gap is massive 20 isn’t even that old either lol stop hating just cuz u wanna hate
False allegations are becoming more of a problem. People should remember the case with the ghost cosplayer guy that offed himself because he was falsely accused by a girl that was underage that even admited on falsely acussing him. So sad for the real victims because they are getting less credibility because of these false acteurs i honestly think legal repercusions and laws should be implemented for falsely acussing online, special laws with harsh sentences. It feels like false acussations have an huge impact on the victims even if the allegations are disproven. It is not okay
agreed. part of the problem is that there’s no repercussions. the false accusers just delete their acc and that’s it, no consequences, while the accused is left with a ruined reputation. this can’t keep happening
Never thought I’d ever hear the disgusting words of “Mini Ladd” to come from TUV but I’m glad you’re addressing this issue so more people can see how much of a terrible person he really is.
Vanoss crew makes fun of him same as Ohmwrecker.
It sucked to hear what Ohmwrecker started for literally no reason.
Craig being just worse than that and not taking anything seriously to actually address his flaws.
@@Ketsu_Kitsune Ohmwrecker has intended to blackmail them and didn't succeed.
And yet his fan base defends his reputation to death if need to.
i unironically feel insanely bad for dream
He became the internet punching bag
hes cringe but i gotta agree man
Yeah I feel like he went from the speed runner to an internet punching bag
I havent even watched the video and Im already disappointed in Tuv. While yeah Dream is f-ed up and kinda dumb to be honest....He needs his own video, or to be put with people that have also done what he has done as well... I dont even know much about the minor allegations against him. I know he isnt stupid enough to do it, but I know that absolute disdain for him as well..
Plus, if it was actually true. Alot more woulda been done then what feels like putting it in a jar on the shelf.
Yeah what's happening to him is kinda fucked up, he fed it and handled it terribly, no e of this would have happened if bro just said nothing.
Dream actually disproved all of the information you said
What is really disgusting is that people say to “believe all victims” even when they are lying a lot of the times. Dream is cringe but that was messed up
No actually lying about a sexual assault is rare . Don’t try to delute the rest of the world because you can’t be bothered to do any research on the topic.
@@Nizhonibearcreek nothing should be taken as fact unless there’s hard facts and evidence backing it. Going against that is ignorance
@@Nizhonibearcreekand how exactly did you get to the conclusion that lying about sexual assault is rare? Kinda hypocritical to say that op didn’t do his research but then say such a baseless statement with no evidence.
I do genuinely think the reason why there's so many allegations against Dream is down to the way he conducts himself with his fans.
Dream's online persona has cultivated the perfect storm for para-social relationships with his fans. Dream was adding fans to a priv account on Twitter and interacting with them on messaging apps. Dream's followers seem to think stuff like this is okay or the norm, and that being messaged by their idol is a huge honour.
This complicates the matter of raising allegations against him. Because these people were fans and likely wanted to make Dream feel comfortable, things typically wouldn't be saved if there was deplorable/illegal activities going on.
Even if Dream hasn't groomed anyone, he's put himself in a pretty terrible situation due to his prior activities and normallising his presence on a personal level with his fandom. When you're adding people to "private" social media, that's a conscious effort.
For someone who wasn't showing his face, he was and in ways still is incredibly accessible to his fans. At least far more than the average influencer.
Dream is 100% innocent. People need to watch his video in full
@@ILoveTVShowsAndStuffNobody said he wasn’t innocent, just that he sorta dug the hole for himself. Read the comment.
@@kingvulcoon1752 nah. He didn’t dig himself into anything. I don’t see a problem with anything he did. He ISNT doing anything illegal or immoral, hence him being completely innocent and should never be in a negative light.
@@ILoveTVShowsAndStuff There are times where you have to realize that you can be as nice and lovely or whatever else as you wish, as upstanding- however, holding the door open for this stuff to happen is in of itself your fault.
Exactly bc even if he didn’t groom anyone his relationship with his fans and visa versa isn’t good
There was a youtuber i followed when i was 14, i found a way to comunicate privately with him.
I always think fondly of that because even if he was 18, and i would constantly flirt with him he would always find a way to turn me down and just be friendly.
I was literally asking for him to groom me, and he chose to be intelligent and not do it.
I always thank him for that. He stopped uploading videos three years ago. I hope he's fine.
May I ask who
It’s normal that someone should not groom a minor he shouldn’t be thanked for that it’s normal standards
It may have been respect worthy how he dealt with it, but it's a truly disturbing sign for humanity when people feel grateful to others for not being pedos. It is extremely common for kids to have crushes on someone too old for them. It is something kids need to be warned against acting on, in case it is a creep they like, but they aren't asking to be groomed.
The older teens/adults shouldn't be bothered necessarily, but recognize it as something that the kid will grow of. The crush should be either ignored, or the kid gently explained to that it would be inappropriate for anything to happen.
This can start very young. One of the most common first crushes for children(we're talking as early as kindergarten) is their teachers. Of course at that age it's very different from a teenage crush.
bro's based fr when he rejected the grooming request
everything about dream was already disproved with massive evidence
Exactly, he should have known this by now considering he uploaded this 6 hours ago.
@@IronicalChronicalfr some even admitted lying about their accusations
i'm ashamed to say that i enjoyed alot of these guys when i was younger (besides dream of course which was about 2 years ago) and seeing my childhood youtubers crumble down. really struck me deep.
although seeing Jordi making a comeback to get his vibe back, all i can really do is just hope that one of my childhood youtubers can grind back to what there content WAS
Tbh moving on after any controversy is such a chad move I would’ve and have done the same
As someone who had no idea about any of the Dream allegations until his video, I feel sorry for that guy. I only ever seen two videos from him, the face reveal and his response video, and it seems like he didn’t do anything at all.
I will say it definitely it is better to watch videos that talk about Dream as a whole because he has done slot of other prove-able things that are wrong. I am very fair on Dream, the grooming allegations are pretty heavy and it does seem like he may be innocent, but he also has done many things like abusing the parasocial relationship with fans, racist things, and overall being a petty person that very much made him unlikable.
Edit: For a suggestion on covering everything in his career, I would recommended TheGamerFromMars video of the controversial life of Dream
nope. no reason to feel bad for him. he intentionally feeds his parasocial fans so he can weaponize them anytime he dislikes someone. hes done it more times than I can count and almost every victim had to leave the internet out of fear for their safety. most notoriously a young black , trans, AND NEURODIVERTGENT fucking CHILD exposed his racism in his near past and he got them harassed so much that they were begging people to stop harassing them and leaking their home address, to which he responded "it's so satisfying watching someone private their account and delete their tweets after I call out their bullshit". which is not even what happened. the screenshots were verifiably true. his fans just harassed the person so bad that they were afraid for their life and he found the situation "satisfying". dream can fucking burn in the deepest pits of hell. hes done this countless times. google dream doxing and you'll find like fucking 15 cases. he knows what hes doing and he takes pleasure in it. anytime someone dislikes him and he sees it, their life is shortly endangered
@@goingferalluvs You mean racist things as in when he did a scream that could vaguely be similar to a Native American one? Buddy, if you took every sound that every human being has EVER made you'd be able to make EVERYBODY a racist by the logic you just used. Context matters in a situation where somebody is being called a racist and simply making a sound, whether blatant or not, is not inherently racist. If I talked in a stereotypical Chinese accent for example that alone by itself is NOT racist. Probably won't be funny, but only an ignorant ass stretches it as far as being a racist.
There’s more proof against him than with him. Especially his OWN IP ADDRESS disproving what he’s said about the Anastasia phone number thing.
You're pulling things out of your ass, this isn't twitter, you don't need to try to recruit people into your bully sphere. You people get so riled up whenever you see anyone even NEUTRAL about dream, it's actually insane obsession. Dream disproved every one of those allegations, the "racist things" he did was doing a "native american war cry" when he was 14, and being 'petty and unlikable' isn't even a reason, that's just you wanting a valid reason to be a bully. I'm so done with these people man, leave him alone@@goingferalluvs
I would say that Iilluminaughtii also ruined their career in such a short time. There were literally allegations of her ruining someone’s life and putting them in debt
Literally all she had to do was not accuse a LAWYER of plagarism. Otherwise, no one would've found out how awful she truly is.
@jacobbigaj6168 there's also the irony of this while she's such a chronic plagiarist that I doubt she's ever had an original thought
@@jacobbigaj6168 she choose the worst opponent to figh agaisnt
girl played stupid games for stupid prizes fr
I haven’t watched one of your videos since your first song and I forgot how comfortable you can be thanks for sharing
It’s a good thing that Joji decided to leave Pink Guy alone or else he would end up as IDubbbz. Probably the best decision that George has ever done in his internet career.
The worst thing about the EDP situation is that because his and generally youtube audiences are younger, they don't understand the gravity of the situation and how he is still a free thing afteris genuinely diabolical, as a result, they won't take any sort of abuse seriously in their own lives.
when i was younger i would sometimes edp’s video if it came up on my feed and tbh i found it hilarious. but as time went on, even before the allegations, i just felt weirded out by him. he’s a grown ass man, 400lbs, acting a fool on the internet and rants about the most random things.
Its truly crazy to ponder about how someone like EDP could have just gone without being found out; TWICE. Like imagine him being on par with all of the mainstream youtubers like MrBeast and others.
And that second catch was more disappointing than the original, clout chasers, pity nothing has actually been done about edp.
As a former EDP fan that most likely wouldn't have happened. He would have gotten more subscribers for sure, especially with the resurgence he got from Tik Tok, but his content wasn't the most original and innovative stuff out there. The main thing he had going for him was the lack of filter but even that was getting old, screaming obscenities isn't exactly genius and record breaking.
And in such a way for him to be exposed instead of the intention of informing the viewer, to entertain them in the way of which irony is shown because he's now an entirely new term for a pedo rather than just a pedo in itself if that makes sense.@@lobodesade6780
he confessed to texting six other minors in the sting op
@@JohnPerry27Shane Dawson has gotten away with it for years.
You got a chill vibe brother! Happy to subscribe! Merry Christmas mate!
this video is actually perfect bc i was dying my hair and it had to be on for 30 mins and i just watched this and used this vid as a timer lmao. also rly cool videos, im so happy i found you, keep going!!!
#25 trending on gaming, i just wanna say im glad yt is pushing out your content tuv, you work too hard to not get the love you deserve , keep it up my fellow bean
PETA has no right to talk about not abusing animals 💀
Even though Dream made a response video to the allegations, it doesn’t seem like people are going to let it go anytime soon. He keeps getting clowned on in his TikTok profile and Twitter is worse. 💀 TH-cam is the only platform where I’ve seen people be supportive of him.
I'm not a Dream fan, but this is very, VERY false allegations against him. It's been proven that he was innocent. Might want to fix this because it's misinformation there, Tuv
Most of these big TH-camrs I notice are afraid to outright admit Dreams innocence. They almost always seem to still be on the fence on this even though the allegations were proven false. They’re losing my respect.
Just wished his stans/fans weren't as mentality impaired as the average Taylor swift fan .
@@IronicalChronicalsame honestly. It's pretty gross to see people continue to drag an innocent person through the mud just because it's trendy to hate them.
I'm saying this as someone who has been a fan of Tuv for a few years now.
Sammy just can't read the room. It's a shame. But I can't blame someone who thinks out of their arse.
Fake? Bro I'm telling you there been like 15. 15 people so he a groomer
I think no one has ever really been an internet punching bag at the same level as dream. I urge anyone who feels compelled to harass him or his family or give his accusers the time to do research first. False accusations only subtract from the credibility of real victims ❤️
he basically created this on himself, he went on ego trips, he bent the knee when twitter decides to stir up stuff, that he doesn't care about one minute but when he gets a huge amount of people deciding to attack him for him not caring about a 200 follower account calling him out for using a navajo race theme(From an old movie that the song is now public domain), he was shown to not have a spine, and when people can get a person to respond to them when the person shouldn't really be caring or responding, he showed he was spineless and would do anything to keep his image perfect.
Someone has, @dallasreview
@@ahsokatanogaming7401and tens of people showed how they were spineless when they would they would try to make dream look like a pedo only to either state that they were lying and delete the threads or delete the account all together. Just because you don’t like how someone acts doesn’t it’s ok to try and ruin their lives and reputation.
Dream is just hated for some reason. People just hate him and decided to make accusations against him; ruining his life when he’s innocent.
you can't be older than like 13
@@PickinTheSpango I guess you are just the worst at guessing ages. I don’t like dream. I don’t hate him, but I’m not a fan, never was,
and never will be. Minecraft was never my thing and never will be.
I should correct myself. He might not be innocent of all the accusations (I didn’t listen or have watched anything about him. Hardly know the accusations), but the ones people make just because he’s dream; should not happen. You can’t deny that many are fake without any solid proof or even photos, and that’s what I meant. What I meant was he should have the right to prove or disprove these allegations without people immediately considering them as the truth.
brother i am NOT reading allat @@reavz8262 😭😭
@@reavz8262 it's so interesting how yall hated him back in 2020 because of his fans and cheating in a speed run, but as soon as serious allegations can to light, yall suddenly are defending him? and i don't just mean the allegations about him being a groomer. him being racist, ableist, giving a minor (under 21 in this case) alcohol and filming him having a manic episode. some of these are confirmed, but ofc suddenly your type if supporting him all of a sudden
What incident was the one where he gave a minor alchohol? I'm losing track.@@Chris-ot9bk This is an edit. I'm going to be straightforward with what I was going to say the first time. I was going to say that reavz didn't even know about dream during the fake speedrunning era, so your statement of "suddenly defending him after the fake speedrunning" does not apply to him. I also know (well at least now I'm certain) that you are mentioning the Incident with Gumball's VA. Please go watch Dream's response video to see the driver's response about that situation (Nicolas was being an absolute jerk, and I promise you if ANYONE else was in the car with him, Nicolas would be facing very serious backlash from the same people such as you trying to defend him.)
"But no one wants to be a p- ARBYS WE HAVE THE MEATS- art of it."
Yo new pfp looks tight, also some of these people should never get a second chance
Yeah, especially EDP445
Hi Tuv I love your content! I’m so happy to see the channel grow!
saying that Dream went from zero to nothing is actually pretty funny and somewhat accurate
fr
He came out with a good response that debunks all the allegations
@@gregoryblack8109 Yeah dude fr. IMO, posting this video right after his response happened is really stingy.
@@gregoryblack8109 no one gaf
@@gregoryblack8109you talking about the response in which he literally verifies that he talked to a minor??? Are we saying that he is a good person for accidentally proving that he is a groomer????
I work with someone who knows EDP personally. He is now actively seeking minors in discord servers and calls since he has “nothing left to loose”
Thx for the early Christmas present with this video!
Hope we get more, cuz I mean have you seen how many YTbers ruined their careers? It’s like a gigantic gold mine for people like you.
EDP had the easiest life you could ask for and he threw it all away for a cupcake.
anastasia: had “proof” dream was in her contacts because of him being “in her contacts” on tiktok when google voice is android and would NOT have blue messages.
amanda: is a groomer, rapist and drove a child to suicide. she also admitted she was lying several times.
jamie: said she was not groomed and to leave her alone, AND the burner said the girl that sent them the videos was lying.
In any cancelling situation I always choose to believe the victim first because there is only one way it could go wrong believing the person who is being accused
literally, stay neutral or believe the victim, NEVER defend the accused bc you don’t even know them & what they’re capable of
Something I noticed is that whenever someone is about to defend Dream, they have to mention that "they hate him" or that "they're not a stan". Since when has "seeing one as innocent until proven guilty" become stan behavior? Jesus christ, grow a pair of balls y'all. At most all dream did was make a few weird tiktoks, took some cringe snapchat pictures and is way too naive and dumb as far as twitter goes. Aside from that, the guy is your everyday joe. Yeah, he has 30 million subs but he's still your average 22 year old who simply struck gold and made some mistakes. You don't gotta like him, but there's no need to hate him either. He's not a punching bag, he's a human being like all of us
Because when you try and defend him, people will always call you a crazy fan or whatever and disregard your argument. So people preface their statement with “I hate him” so they don’t look biased. Or maybe they genuinely hate him.
@clydedropout8283
Exactly
@@gvd72true
After watching the full dream video a couple of days ago
And yesterdays tweet on the matter
I came to the conclusion that dream is innocent
However, you may disagree with me
I never thought he was guilty
he still undeniably feeds a parasocial fanbase and gets people harassed to the point of fearing for their life if they accuse him of anything, so .
@@Jxvger The fuck do you mean gets people harassed? The people being harassed are the result of either putting it on themselves or other people trying to make him look bad by digging into the personal lives of the supposed victims. Dream has had no part in anybody getting harassed. And of everybody that has been harassed in this situation, the amount of harassment Dream has dealt with isn't even remotely comparable to everybody else. Dude has had to go to ridiculous lengths to keep himself and his family safe. His fucking 80 year old grandmother was even being harassed. Plus, we've established by this point that if somebody new does accuse him there's almost a 100% chance that it's just more bullshit from somebody trying to ruin his life.
@@Jxvger And that's deserving of death threats, life ruining false allegations multiple times, his family being threatened, being SWATTED, and all the other things that've happened???
@@Cardinal_claw all of that besides the swatting was done to the people mentioned. also to the special ED person saying the people brought it onto themselves, he admitted to the racism allegations and downplayed them from the first person who he got harassed and bullied off the internet. so yeah, keep coping. dream is a monster. he deserves worse
I remember my first time hearing about Dream. It was when it was announced he was planning to reveal his face. My reaction was... "Who...?" I had to look up what was his niche and time of airing and it turns out I was one of the few slipping in the cracks where he didn't register on my algorithm. It was because of my interests on TH-cam, the time of my job, and the special days I work causing it.
Any time a TH-camr, usually male, gets a considerable following, there's always someone accusing him of gr00ming. This is getting fucking ridiculous now.
We have TH-camrs who destroyed their own lives in seconds, and then we have HBomberGuy, who destroys TH-camr’s lives in four hour video essays
Let’s not forget HBomberGuy’s controversies as well
@@gvd72 Asking seriously - can you provide links, or search parameters?
@@Jim-the-EngineerNot on TH-cam
Dude, I love tuv's content so much. Keep up the work man, I mean it ❤.
Man dream can't catch a break 😭
Thanks to libtard twitter
"Hew was even making content with Mr Beast".. Well that comment hits a bit differently now lol.
Man it's just sad that there are people that would come to their own conclusions w/o listening to the other side🤦♀Especially with the dream situation, people really hate to just hate
nice work on this one tuv. appreciate the work and effort you put into this and all your videos. merry christmas
Amazing, a tuv video to watch during Christmas break!
Average Tuvington W 💀
the shane one hurt the most because from a young age I watched shane all the time and I never realized the stuff he said was wrong and now that I am older and realizing it, it hurts more.
the fact that after dream revealed his face, a bunch of allegations started coming up.Hmmmm something is not right.
cause it was the perfect time for it
Probably a bunch angry fan girls that were disappointed that he looks average and not the super hot model they thought he be.
exactly perfect time for it@@cs-gj3yf
yup sounds about right@@KhanMann66
@@KhanMann66same thing happened to corpse but it not just girls making fun of his face
I hope Tuv doesn't commit tax fraud :(
I hope tuv doesn’t commit genocide
He won't
I do think that he got so many allegations from Fans he got to close through parasocial relationships. Kinda makes sense to me if Fans gets to obssesed with a person that doesnt reply back anymore. Ppl do crazy stuff when they turn in to yandere's.
This is why I don’t use YT as a career and rather as a hobby.
Hello daddy Tuvy
Hell nah
Buddy calm down.
WOAH
you just like me fr
Awh hell nawh
Merry Christmas Eve and eventually Christmas! I hope you get a good break and get to see family these days. I hope your mental health is good after looking at these things all year for us. Much love to you!
honestly i just woke up but im so happy that tuv uploaded
In my country (Brasil) there was this incredibly famous Minecraft TH-camr who said that it would be okay to have a nazi party in the country, because fReE SpEeCh. He fled to the US and nowadays claims he's being unfairly attacked, he even compared himself to the Jews during the Holocaust. I can't express how stupid and absurd it all is.
Dream is cringe but hes innocent, the accusations were so bad, we only had a few pieces of evidence that made no sense, he already disproved everything
where lol
Did he talk about the snap chat with his fans? Those were werid 🤮
Dream is only guilty of that cringe song
is ur pfp jshittle
lmaoo
@@soupmuncher985yeah it's from some little kids worksheet who watched too much jaystack
“Thats what the mask is!” Truly hits hard 😢
I sure hope tuv doesn't eradicate the human race
being a youtuber is like having a successful career in exchange for your reputation