I gotta say I really love how Tuv has improved as a content creator Edit: to clarify, I’m specifically referring to his editing and just overall quality as a whole
He didn’t recognize what he was doing wrong when pulling out his credit card, buying the deepfakes, and keeping them up on his WORK computer. He’s a fucking dumbass
As a woman, I do not "respect" him for coming to terms with his guilty actions. He did what ANY person SHOULD have done, which is go "we should end this creepy, violating porn!" AFTER revealing himself to be a part of the problem, just to cover his ass! If he cared so much about deepfake porn, he should've been taking down those websites *first* instead of paying for and watching deepfake porn of his COWORKERS. That is SUPER gross; nobody needs to SEE the porn first in order to take it down. Thanks to him, female streamers have a new fear which has been proven to be REAL and sickening. He's part of the reason women can't feel safe in the public eye. Good on him for actually making an effort to undo what has been done, but he will NEVER undo the violation these women have suffered through.
@@nomoretwitterhandles This. I was the biggest Atrioc fan for years, once this came out, I could not support him in any way. The damage control he's doing seems so forced and fake, because you know he would've never gaven a shit about doing anything about deepfakes if he wasn't caught. The fact that he had his wife come on stream to vouch for him too will always be absolutely vile and twisted to me. I couldn't imagine putting my wife in that situation.
To make it clear, some people have disabilities and need a wheelchair, but they can walk without it. Like with chronic fatigue or chronic pains I believe.
If i'm correct he was wheelchair bound for a while due to his car crash. He has back injuries but was able to learn how to walk again. (Please correct me if im wrong) If I'm correct though, I feel like he could've still been a really respected gamer. He could've explained that he used his wheelchair because its easier to get around due to his back injuries instead of lying and saying he was wheelchair bound, since some dont get that. Either way his story of "I'm wheelchair bound" was very clearly a lie and a money grab.
thats true but all of this could’ve been avoided if the dude was just completely honest with fans, people aren’t dumb, they know wheelchairs aren’t always 24/7 but the dude gave zero impression that was the case
@@naruto_bae7508 He definetly could have come up with a more believeable story to fit what actually happened but you dont get up and strut around that quickly if you are still using a wheelchair he'd have moved much slower and probably made some kind of grunt sound or something but he tried to pull the i fell when we saw him get up and walk for a second. You would have thought he would have given some kind of update saying hes improving and able to move around a little and overtime people would have believed him and he could be still going to this day but he just went from zero to hero basically on his health. Maybe he just drank a super recovery potion or something and it cured him who knows xD
I have a wheechair as I cannot walk more than 20 metres. Stems from a spinal condition that started in my mid 30s (old as fck here). I sometimes limp due to the pain that runs down both my legs, however some times are worse than others. I've had comments like "I thought you needed a wheelchair?" and "oh your walking better, are you fixed now?". Chronic pain and chronic illness is real, and those comments hurt. Great vid dude.
@@JimmyG773 Im personally sorry and you're very tough for that man, People who use being wheelchair bound as a money grab are pathetic. He very clearly knew how to walk & and wasn't in pain like your experience, he probably went through something as well but lied for fame and money. You have been through some battles man, vs just standing up and hiding it because you know your easy money was over like him. wish you well
I think Atrioc is a great example of what to do when you do something wrong. Genuinely regret and reflect on your actions and put time and energy into making things as right as you can.
yes fr. when ppl get "cancelled" it's just "oh sorry guys but anyways.." and they normally dont help the main group they hurt. he isnt just putting in money but time and effort and for that not being the norm I find it really respectful
@@rattgodExactly. How long has he been paying for deepfake porn? If anything, people simply respect him because he didn't try to hide his stupid decision and he stepped up and decided to help those to take deepfake porn of them down, something he should've done from the beginning instead of paying for it.
@@glassofmid thats all i was trying to say. most creators will apologize once their caught (no one puts their own shit on blast) or things are brought back up but its rare to see them help who’s been hurt. in no way is he a hero but i think its good example for other ppl who are also getting cancelled to not just go back to normal
In regards to Zilian, he made some really good points as to why he never lied. He had photos of him months prior to even beginning streaming where he was out with friends in a wheel chair. He never claimed he couldn't walk, he just said he needed to use a wheelchair. I've been in that situation, I had a problem with balance for about 6 months, and walking was incredibly difficult so I spent a majority of my time in a wheelchair. I didn't "need" the wheelchair, but it definitely made things a hell of a lot easier. I can't say for certainty that it was all fake, but I'm willing to believe that he didn't lie about it. Just maybe didn't tell the whole story.
While him lying about "falling" at first might seem like evidence of his guilt, I personally think he lied about it because wheelchair awareness is so low. Not many people understand that anyone might need a wheelchair, as wheelchairs aren't only for people who are paralyzed from the waist down. Some physical disabilities simply make walking/moving harder, and lots of people who use wheelchairs are perfectly capable of walking a little bit. He most likely lied about "falling" out of his wheelchair because, at the time, he might've felt like people would think he's a faker no matter *what* he said. Though, in retrospect, being honest about it from the start would've been the best move. (edited for clarity)
i just watched the joedaddy video and omg, you can’t understand most of what is being said but the girl’s screams r truly heartbreaking. even if she did cheat being beaten and r-ped isnt ever okay. it didn’t even sound like he was mad, he was more just mocking her and enjoying her pain. and her screams at the end are the worst. its so evident that she is being r-ped. i feel for her. i hope she doing better now.
It definitely sounded like assualt. Especially her saying "don't put it in" or "get off of me" her screams were also muffled while the tone of her voice went lower to higher. Like a thrusting motion? I'm disgusted, this lady was definitely assualted and abused. And as sad as it is they always get away with it. Hearing the audio made me speechless.. The person recording was also laughing at the whole thing saying "this is funny" I'm so angry that this sicko isn't in prison and has multiple chances to make new victims. I really hope she got out of there.
@@colin2316that doesn’t really matter man, thats not the point and its a bad take to have. In this single youtube comment I can’t teach you the practice of empathy but I can at least point out that you seem to lack it. Imagine if the next mistake you made completely wiped your life away and nobody ever forgave you for it, if every single time anyone saw you ever again thats all they talked about. Theres just no point unless it’s something extreme, more extreme than what he did which was pretty fucking bad. This is how we end lives, not how we allow lives to be mended. I won’t personally be watching anymore but theres no reason to keep dragging the dude. He’s put an insane amount of money towards helping people and whether its damage control or not, it has revolutionized deepfake removal software far beyond what it was capable of.
@@codymarshall587 I don’t “lack empathy” I just don’t forgive and forget that easily. What he did was disgusting and if he’s actually successfully getting some of that shit off the internet than that’s a step in the right direction but no apology video will ever change the way I think about him. He’s doing a good thing to draw attention away from his own gross mistakes and nothings gonna make me change my opinion.
@@colin2316 He did a 6 month update and if you haven't seen it I'd suggest giving it a watch even if you dont think it'd change your mind. He's kinda been outrageously succesful not only with getting stuff taken down but finding ways to do it faster and cheaper, and also making things so hard that it's made some deepfake "artists" quit all together. Alot of work done that honestly wouldn't need to be done if that's all he wanted to do was draw attention away, expecially with proof that he had only visited the website once. Not tryna change your mind, just provide an update with new info to consider
I have huge respect for tuv. He is making his own cartoon, He has his own clothing brand, He makes music ( Which i have not listened to yet). It is just so cool how he has done all this stuff. And i have a lot of respect for him.
In defense of Zillion he was actually disabled with some mobility and then as years progressed he got better. Disabilities come in different forms, visible and invisible but in this situation I think he just froze and panicked.
To argue that, it's disingenuous to have everyone think you can't stand and get donations for that, without explaining the situation that you are working towards being able to walk. It comes off as using the issue for money rather than to help.
Yeh but you can’t present yourself as confined to a wheelchair and knowingly profit from people’s sympathy and present yourself as disabled. He didn’t explain his situation and he even admits this. He clearly knew that it was better for business with him being in the wheelchair. I don’t think he’s a terrible person, he actually seems like a pretty chill dude, but I still don’t think think he’s fully took accountability for what happened. Even to this day he’s often just giving excuses as to why the situation was misconstrued rather than just admitting that he was being disingenuous. Regardless of whether he was at one point confined to the wheelchair, he was clearly at the point he was very capable of walking around and didn’t need to constantly use his apparent status as a disabled person for attention.
@@davidfairweather3301people are getting donations anyway no matter what they do, no matter what situation they are in. if i streamed right now and had a reasonable amount of viewers, i'd get donations too just because im streaming and i literally wouldnt have anything to offer. people are sleeping while streaming and still getting paid. i really don't give a damn about a person using his disability to get paid. what i am saying is the viewers only want to see their names on the screen or hear their names mentioned. they are dumber than i think if they get offended when they find out that this guy used his disability to get some money off of bunch of randoms on the internet meanwhile they see no problem at all donating to a guy or a girl literally sleeping.
But he lied about it. He never said to any of his viewers he could walk, because he liked the sympathy from them. He was obviously trying hide it so he could get more brownie pointa
I listened to the audio of the last case you mentioned. You're spot-on. That's definitely S/A; I won't explain in detail because I'm not putting your viewers through that but everyone just know, yes, something was up, especially from the script and the audio, and there should have been further investigation into this.
I think fame and money in general brings out the worst of most people. Or they end up into drugs and alcohol. Most people can't deal with fame in a positive way. There are only a few that can stay grounded and not forget where they came from and that they are just human like everybody else and nothing special.
your editing skills have improved extremely and i am glad that you have been improving. Been subscribed before 1 million and i can tell that you have gotten really well at everything that i cant do. Love your content and i want to see more!
according to another video he’s actually hired some editors so it seems he’s developing a whole team now which is a great direction for him as it’s draining doing everything by urself
@@BeleCoi totally. his editing reminds me of a lot of different channels. i like it tho, and i hope his videos don’t keep getting demonetized so that way he can support himself and pay the editors
@sicknerf3d837 SunnyV2 but with a personality, I love how objectively factual Sunny is but this isn't the same IMO, the face cam alone gives me more personal vibes like I would kill people for him and lock them in a dungeon ( I haven't built it yet will post vids soon) *NOT parasocial*
I love your perseverance of your brand and how you make the advertisement for them. Its lighthearted and i just like the way you show off the merch. Truly inspirational.
Anything wrong that someone has done can be redeemed, everyone makes mistakes, and everyone can change. Seeing people speak about what he did like they have never done anything wrong in their life drives me nuts. Like if you make a major mistake, but dont realize its a mistake until its done damage, then thats a learning experience that will make you a better person in the end. All humans make mistakes, and all humans have some fucked up thoughts and urges sometimes. I think hes prolly an awesome dude in real life, and dealing with the situation right after the moment it happened is commendable, out of all the people who speak of him like hes an irredeamable devil, i can guarantee most of them wouldnt take accountability and put in effort to change in the same situation.
@@emma6648 You personally find it unforgiveable, that doesn't mean it was a factually unforgiveable action, as is evidence by the mountains of people who have forgiven him.
@@Theforestrysystem as a disabled person, he should have. Him not saying shit and then walking on stream makes him look like a liar and paints a LOT of actual disabled streamers in a bad light.
What I’m saying, he’s actually my favorite streamer bro, I remember back when he got hacked, got banned for smashing a keyboard on his head (which was completely unfair) and through everything his fans really had his back and he showed that love back to everyone even while there were just trolls laughing at him genuinely suffering through a horrible time. Bro almost killed himself all types of shit. He’s turned around and I’m very happy for him and hope he keeps pushin BEEF ITS WHATS FOR DINNER
Yeah Dell0r has a good heart but definitely has some mental health issues that his chat takes advantage of. I’m glad he took the steps to get diagnosed for his illnesses and is making steps to improve his life all while still making a living as a streamer. He definitely still rages but it’s a lot less frequent and not nearly as bad thankfully.
@@gtyuitr he was racist and sexist... I don't really think that symbolises a good heart. And in regards to mental illness, it does not excuse that behaviour. Rage? Sure. Racism and sexism? Nope.
Zillionop probably could have played it off by coming back in frame, sitting back down, and going, "tada! I've been in pt for a while working on walking again and I wanted to surprise you guys with my progress!" I can believe that he needed a wheelchair still despite being able to walk (my dad is in a similar situation physically though he uses a mobility scooter rather than a wheelchair. He can walk but only for short distances), but the way he handled it was just disastrous regardless of what the truth might be.
Atrioc's was pain, bro was my favorite streamer and when I missed the streams I always looked forward to his youtube vids. It's a shame he doesnt post as much anymore.
For those planning to look up "joe daddy audio", it's pretty mortifying and you'll catch yourself having a disgusted look on your face, just be aware. It's pretty horrifying.
Tuv is one of my uncomfort comfort [refering to content] YTers, im so happy to have found him he's helped me get through classes, ect.. thank you sm Tuv i always get so happy when i see you post ❤ keep it up!!
@@dazzle2008 if you think about it, we are living inside another person's walls. we are but a mere skidmark of poo in the boxers of duke. we call life. Dig deep and you might just find that corn piece that holds the key to you finding your true self.
Is it just me or when I see tuv doing well and his videos get better and the content evolve, I feel like a mother watching her baby graduate high school or sum shit lol
Congrats on getting started at Kick! I don't think I personally will ever use the service because the higher ups at the company don't seem to be the types of people I would want to support, but it's good to have competition in the streaming space as it forces twitch to get their ass in line and stop fucking around with the lives of content creators by releasing and then backtracking on terrible policies every 3 months.
higher ups in any big company aren't ones you'd want to support. it's just that kick can't keep it behind closed doors. jeff bezos evading taxes, every social media app ever trading your personal information, signing your 'moral rights' away on reddit, facebook having access to your browsing history, etc etc.
@@deathrowShorty thats fair, but ill take that over actively homophobic people, primarily due to the fact that amazon clearly doesn’t make that much money off of Twitch if they’re firing large portions of their staff so my use or lack thereof of the service on my own wont change much, and the idea of being on a platform co-owned by Adin Ross is nauseating to me personally (not judging other people for chasing their bag though). If I have to choose between hyper-capitalism and nazi sympathizers, ill choose hyper-capitalism, but I don’t like either at the end of the day.
@@p.r.1308 Well Adin Ross is a co owner, and itd take ages to go down the list of what he’s done from consistently defending Andrew Tate, saying shitty stuff about the trans community (i get that most people don’t care about that but for me its one if my main reasons for disliking him since I have a lot of trans people in my life so I found that distasteful), and saying homophobic slurs on stream. Just an overall distasteful guy in my opinion, and Twitch did more to stop him including banning him for how hateful and anti-Semitic his chat was getting.
Dude I love this guy his videos are awesome and funny as hell and I like how he doesn't take like 10 hours to show what he's talking about and gets straighttothepoint. Oh and noticehe doesn't take like another 5 hours to show his products. He shows you the products that are now, tells you what's coming next, thanks his fans and gets right back to the video. That's why I love tuv
It's been said before, but not all wheelchair users are completely paralyzed or unable to walk. A lot of people have mobility that is just limited and not everyone uses a wheelchair 24/7.
I heard the audio of the last entry, not a lot makes me cry, but I was so shaken and upset after hearing that. Being SA'd is literally one of my biggest fears.
I respect how Atrioc handled the situation. I have been the victim of some stuff on the internet (I won’t get into detail), but if I found out that a person who participated took accountability, felt genuinely sorry, and then spent substantial time and money (relative to their financial status) to develop very needed tools to help me and other people like me… it would actually mean a lot to me. None of us can turn back time and undo the bad and hurtful things we’ve all done. But it’s so rare to see a person actually try to make things right in a way that isn’t superficial or just completely disingenuous.
they're never genuinely sorry lol if they were they wouldn't have done the shit they did in the first place. They always would have kept going if they weren't caught.
@hush9185 your point doesn't use the right evidence. Atrioc has claimed that the one time he got caught was the only time he looked at it because he was curious about AI (He was interested in the development of AI around that time). You saying that he did it multiple times doesn't correlated with the evidence.
It really is unfair on the unfair treatment of different genders when it come to online activity. I know everybody do stupid things but I've been watching multiple videos where almost the whole world has to come together to take down one female streamer. But as soon as a guy makes one mistake his stream is taking down almost instantly. I really hope folks start to wake up and start to fight back especially on twitch they are really bad with it
I'm digging how tuv has improved, both in confidence and presentation and the editing. Oh, and the hair, getting some 90s vibe mixed in with 20s, lookin' good.
ive been watching tuv since he made the girls simping for school shooter video and ive just been watching as his channel rises up and up, keep it up tuv
kick is a heavily gambling oriented streaming site btw, i am not against gambling, but the only gambling i like is in an actual big professional casino offline
Influencing people to go onto a platform that’s actively trying to get kids addicted to gambling feels bad man. Like great to have competition for twitch and a 90/10 split for creators but if the money’s coming from ppl gambling all their money away :/
if this is the same (new) editor that you started with recently than i really am liking the progression! it seemed a little awkward in the first video but definitely seems to be hitting a stride to match yr vibe and content! look forward to seeing how they progress w it cause damn what a step in a vid 👏
I love tuv a lot as a creator, but it it sucks that youtube has basicly forced him to bring his content to a less dark material. I still love his content and will continue to support him but youtube is really a bitch.
zilianop's situation was a big misunderstanding. also, i wouldn't get your information from sunnyv2. sure, some of his videos are entertaining, but he's had bad information, or just straight up misinformation in some of them. he also has a hard time remaining unbiased. there's nothing inherently wrong with that in itself, but it becomes a problem when you're using his videos for solid information.
its so crazy to me how ive been watching your videos since you had under 400k and now your doing colabs with charlie and other famous people!!. its insane dude i feel like a proud mom
atrioc situation is so upsetting and i dont think he should be forgiven, something similar happened at my school where nudes of girls were edited and leaked, i knew of at least 3 girls who had killed themselves - it hurts to see how many people forgive him
@@GorillaWithAPhone i don't care how much he tries, what he did was so fucked and you really can't expect any woman to forgive him :p if some do, cool, but as someone who's seen first hand what ts does to ppl, i won't ever forgive him
Bro just tuned back in on this channel. It’s amazing how far you have gotten! Last time i saw one of your videoes you had 3 K subs! This warms my heart! Keep up the good work❤️.
I love how all the TH-camrs I watch are connected, Tuv gave sunnyv2 a shout out and in sunnyv2 video he gives wavywebsurf a shout out 😂 then there moridforfun this man knows all 3 TH-camrs and has videos with Tuv. It’s just great seeing y’all work together.
The ban about Syndicate reminder at the start of the video hit nostalgia, I used to watch his zombies vids back in the old days like all syndicate fans. Just randomly stopped watching him though and never went back.
Great vid but the Dellor "gamer-word" situation happened before he blew up as a streamer. And dellor wasn't 'excusing' his actions, he was just explaining the factors that led up to that situation, plus dellor said himself that he deserved the punishment he got. If he was actually making excuses he would have explained the factors that led up to the gamer-word situation and justified his behavior based on those factors (which he didn't do). Only complaint about the vid. Good video.
I’ve been watching you since you basically started uploading, but I’m really conflicted with how to feel about this video and the discussion surrounding the Zillian situation. With taking info from and praising SunnyV2 after all of the public and proven disrespect along with the condescension in “why lie though” etc, it is kind of upsetting. As a physically disabled person, I know how it is to need to change mobility aids depending on the day or time of day. And regarding lying, I know of so many times I have “lied” or hid bits of my conditions so people wouldn’t look down on me or pity me. I don’t think he should be criticized for being insecure about what his disability is/was actually like. Tuv, I will still continue to watch your videos in hopes that this ignorance (while it may be subtle) in research does not become a pattern, though it seems as though some others fear that to be the case. I hope you will continue to create the content that we know and love you for, despite whatever missteps there may be along the way
Yeah, it made me feel strange too. I also watched tuv since he had a couple thousand subscribers, and as an lgbtq+ person it was kind off disappointing to see him shout out sunnyv2. Also the misinformation about disabled people is very harmful and a topic of that streamer requires more research than a sunnyv2 video.
I don't have too much to say that you already haven't, but I very much agree. I heavily doubt he just wasn't aware that SunnyV2 had done anything bad because it was practically the only thing people talked about the week the video was made. It's really off-putting. I got a similar vibe when he started streaming on kick, but I did trust he wasn't going to be that kinda guy, and I don't believe he is, but I think a lot of minor things like can impact your opinion of someone.
@@therosearts5081 yeah I’m trans as well so it really caught me off guard. And I didn’t wanna say it cuz I wasn’t sure if I was wrong for thinking it, but the whole streaming on Kik thing is really bothersome with how much the platform profits off of exploiting young people and harboring people who Tuv has spoken against. Like I’m not trying to witch hunt people, but there are just some things that can’t be overlooked
You're not a streamer living off subs on Twitch. You don't owe transparency to anyone about your condition... But he did. Yes, he might be actually disabled, but the fact he only came forward about his state when caught, that his girlfriend reacted the way she did, and that he only let it slip because he was in a moment of distress shows that he is not as innocent as he claims to be.
I've been watching atrioc hitman videos for the past couple months and had no idea this happened! You're my favorite (informative?) youtube channel, keep up the good content. 🎉🎉🎉
In that wheelchair guys defense. I work at a hospital and tons of patients there do need wheelchairs simply to get around better. I even have a supervisor who uses a walker. I saw her walking without it one day and thought she was faking the whole time but she explained that she does need it because it helps her balance better and that she has extreme amounts of pain in her back if she doesnt have proper balance. She can walk around without it but only for a limited amount of time. So there are many people out there who arent bound to wheelchairs and/or walkers, but it does provide them with great assistance. They also do undergo physical therapy sessions to help them possibly have to use walking assistance less. I guess just in that guys case, he should have just explained that from the beginning. Because car crashes can leave you paralyzed or they could just force you into needing assistance getting around. If he had explained that in the beginning I think people would have actually understood it better and accepted it. Guess he thought acting fully unable to walk garnered him more sympathy points.
The explaining from beginning part is where people have the issue, and their initial reaction to him standing even screams that's what they were doing. It's the like little white lie to squeeze the extra ten bucks from someone that makes people upset. Granted you couldn't tell that from these comments.
Atrioc is still pulling in the same numbers as he did for the alt-tab incident. Yeah he might’ve lost respect in his the streaming field, he’s still a bigger streamer.
That's because men kinda suck and don't really care about the effect deepfake porn has on women and girls. Matter of fact, they get off to the negative effects it has. I bet a lot of you men and boys like Atrioc and think he's relatable for doing what he's done. Super gross.
Can I just say that your videos are always so awesome? It never loses its touch and it is just so entertaining, so much so that I just cannot stop watching. Keep up the great work as usual, tuv. ❤
I giggle and kick my feet when tuv uploads
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I gotta say I really love how Tuv has improved as a content creator
Edit: to clarify, I’m specifically referring to his editing and just overall quality as a whole
not rlly hes always been good
nah, he’s been like this good. you have to say u gotta love his consistency of quality.
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I’d say he’s refined his content, dudes on a trajectory, im all for it, hail
I have some respect for Artrioch for immediately recognizing what he did was wrong, owning up to it, and taking steps to fight deepfakes for real.
He didn’t recognize what he was doing wrong when pulling out his credit card, buying the deepfakes, and keeping them up on his WORK computer.
He’s a fucking dumbass
In his quest to stop deepfakes, he's gonna end up looking at a lot more deepfakes.
As a woman, I do not "respect" him for coming to terms with his guilty actions. He did what ANY person SHOULD have done, which is go "we should end this creepy, violating porn!" AFTER revealing himself to be a part of the problem, just to cover his ass! If he cared so much about deepfake porn, he should've been taking down those websites *first* instead of paying for and watching deepfake porn of his COWORKERS. That is SUPER gross; nobody needs to SEE the porn first in order to take it down.
Thanks to him, female streamers have a new fear which has been proven to be REAL and sickening. He's part of the reason women can't feel safe in the public eye.
Good on him for actually making an effort to undo what has been done, but he will NEVER undo the violation these women have suffered through.
@@nomoretwitterhandles This. I was the biggest Atrioc fan for years, once this came out, I could not support him in any way. The damage control he's doing seems so forced and fake, because you know he would've never gaven a shit about doing anything about deepfakes if he wasn't caught. The fact that he had his wife come on stream to vouch for him too will always be absolutely vile and twisted to me. I couldn't imagine putting my wife in that situation.
Bruh I guess but he PAID for it instead of just going into it and then immediately leaving
To make it clear, some people have disabilities and need a wheelchair, but they can walk without it. Like with chronic fatigue or chronic pains I believe.
If i'm correct he was wheelchair bound for a while due to his car crash. He has back injuries but was able to learn how to walk again. (Please correct me if im wrong) If I'm correct though, I feel like he could've still been a really respected gamer. He could've explained that he used his wheelchair because its easier to get around due to his back injuries instead of lying and saying he was wheelchair bound, since some dont get that. Either way his story of "I'm wheelchair bound" was very clearly a lie and a money grab.
thats true but all of this could’ve been avoided if the dude was just completely honest with fans, people aren’t dumb, they know wheelchairs aren’t always 24/7 but the dude gave zero impression that was the case
@@naruto_bae7508 He definetly could have come up with a more believeable story to fit what actually happened but you dont get up and strut around that quickly if you are still using a wheelchair he'd have moved much slower and probably made some kind of grunt sound or something but he tried to pull the i fell when we saw him get up and walk for a second. You would have thought he would have given some kind of update saying hes improving and able to move around a little and overtime people would have believed him and he could be still going to this day but he just went from zero to hero basically on his health. Maybe he just drank a super recovery potion or something and it cured him who knows xD
I have a wheechair as I cannot walk more than 20 metres. Stems from a spinal condition that started in my mid 30s (old as fck here). I sometimes limp due to the pain that runs down both my legs, however some times are worse than others. I've had comments like "I thought you needed a wheelchair?" and "oh your walking better, are you fixed now?". Chronic pain and chronic illness is real, and those comments hurt. Great vid dude.
@@JimmyG773 Im personally sorry and you're very tough for that man, People who use being wheelchair bound as a money grab are pathetic. He very clearly knew how to walk & and wasn't in pain like your experience, he probably went through something as well but lied for fame and money. You have been through some battles man, vs just standing up and hiding it because you know your easy money was over like him. wish you well
I think Atrioc is a great example of what to do when you do something wrong. Genuinely regret and reflect on your actions and put time and energy into making things as right as you can.
yes fr. when ppl get "cancelled" it's just "oh sorry guys but anyways.." and they normally dont help the main group they hurt. he isnt just putting in money but time and effort and for that not being the norm I find it really respectful
He only apologized cause he got caught, why do we expect the bare minimum from these types of people?
@@rattgodExactly. How long has he been paying for deepfake porn? If anything, people simply respect him because he didn't try to hide his stupid decision and he stepped up and decided to help those to take deepfake porn of them down, something he should've done from the beginning instead of paying for it.
@@glassofmid thats all i was trying to say. most creators will apologize once their caught (no one puts their own shit on blast) or things are brought back up but its rare to see them help who’s been hurt. in no way is he a hero but i think its good example for other ppl who are also getting cancelled to not just go back to normal
He literally made up a retarded story about how he was into Ai and he saw it on a ad which doesn’t even run on porn hub, truely high iq individual
In regards to Zilian, he made some really good points as to why he never lied. He had photos of him months prior to even beginning streaming where he was out with friends in a wheel chair. He never claimed he couldn't walk, he just said he needed to use a wheelchair. I've been in that situation, I had a problem with balance for about 6 months, and walking was incredibly difficult so I spent a majority of my time in a wheelchair. I didn't "need" the wheelchair, but it definitely made things a hell of a lot easier.
I can't say for certainty that it was all fake, but I'm willing to believe that he didn't lie about it. Just maybe didn't tell the whole story.
While him lying about "falling" at first might seem like evidence of his guilt, I personally think he lied about it because wheelchair awareness is so low. Not many people understand that anyone might need a wheelchair, as wheelchairs aren't only for people who are paralyzed from the waist down. Some physical disabilities simply make walking/moving harder, and lots of people who use wheelchairs are perfectly capable of walking a little bit. He most likely lied about "falling" out of his wheelchair because, at the time, he might've felt like people would think he's a faker no matter *what* he said. Though, in retrospect, being honest about it from the start would've been the best move.
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Also In zilians time it wasn’t expected for creaters like to be clear about their personal times
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Tuv should really pin this because he just brushed off the part where the entire thing was a misunderstanding
@@SquareBlock5 he hearted this so he’s not ignoring this
i just watched the joedaddy video and omg, you can’t understand most of what is being said but the girl’s screams r truly heartbreaking. even if she did cheat being beaten and r-ped isnt ever okay. it didn’t even sound like he was mad, he was more just mocking her and enjoying her pain. and her screams at the end are the worst. its so evident that she is being r-ped. i feel for her. i hope she doing better now.
crazy how he didnt even face legal consequences, and then the police going to create a huge ass case if someone rightfully murders that fucker
It definitely sounded like assualt. Especially her saying "don't put it in" or "get off of me" her screams were also muffled while the tone of her voice went lower to higher. Like a thrusting motion? I'm disgusted, this lady was definitely assualted and abused. And as sad as it is they always get away with it. Hearing the audio made me speechless.. The person recording was also laughing at the whole thing saying "this is funny" I'm so angry that this sicko isn't in prison and has multiple chances to make new victims. I really hope she got out of there.
@@bryn1063 i heard the get off me but never the dont put it in, that’s heartbreaking
I don't necessarily forgive Atrioc for that creepy shit but his efforts in taking stuff down is very commendable
Yeah but he wouldn’t be doing it if he never got caught. It’s all just damage control.
@@colin2316that doesn’t really matter man, thats not the point and its a bad take to have.
In this single youtube comment I can’t teach you the practice of empathy but I can at least point out that you seem to lack it.
Imagine if the next mistake you made completely wiped your life away and nobody ever forgave you for it, if every single time anyone saw you ever again thats all they talked about.
Theres just no point unless it’s something extreme, more extreme than what he did which was pretty fucking bad. This is how we end lives, not how we allow lives to be mended.
I won’t personally be watching anymore but theres no reason to keep dragging the dude. He’s put an insane amount of money towards helping people and whether its damage control or not, it has revolutionized deepfake removal software far beyond what it was capable of.
@@codymarshall587 I don’t “lack empathy” I just don’t forgive and forget that easily. What he did was disgusting and if he’s actually successfully getting some of that shit off the internet than that’s a step in the right direction but no apology video will ever change the way I think about him. He’s doing a good thing to draw attention away from his own gross mistakes and nothings gonna make me change my opinion.
@@colin2316 I guess thats just really a sad way to live. I’m sorry.
@@colin2316 He did a 6 month update and if you haven't seen it I'd suggest giving it a watch even if you dont think it'd change your mind. He's kinda been outrageously succesful not only with getting stuff taken down but finding ways to do it faster and cheaper, and also making things so hard that it's made some deepfake "artists" quit all together. Alot of work done that honestly wouldn't need to be done if that's all he wanted to do was draw attention away, expecially with proof that he had only visited the website once. Not tryna change your mind, just provide an update with new info to consider
I have huge respect for tuv. He is making his own cartoon, He has his own clothing brand, He makes music ( Which i have not listened to yet). It is just so cool how he has done all this stuff. And i have a lot of respect for him.
Also i am so excited for 2 gay cats, Like i have been looking at the art and i'm screaming cuz i really love these cats.
In defense of Zillion he was actually disabled with some mobility and then as years progressed he got better. Disabilities come in different forms, visible and invisible but in this situation I think he just froze and panicked.
To argue that, it's disingenuous to have everyone think you can't stand and get donations for that, without explaining the situation that you are working towards being able to walk. It comes off as using the issue for money rather than to help.
Yeh but you can’t present yourself as confined to a wheelchair and knowingly profit from people’s sympathy and present yourself as disabled. He didn’t explain his situation and he even admits this. He clearly knew that it was better for business with him being in the wheelchair. I don’t think he’s a terrible person, he actually seems like a pretty chill dude, but I still don’t think think he’s fully took accountability for what happened. Even to this day he’s often just giving excuses as to why the situation was misconstrued rather than just admitting that he was being disingenuous.
Regardless of whether he was at one point confined to the wheelchair, he was clearly at the point he was very capable of walking around and didn’t need to constantly use his apparent status as a disabled person for attention.
@@davidfairweather3301people are getting donations anyway no matter what they do, no matter what situation they are in. if i streamed right now and had a reasonable amount of viewers, i'd get donations too just because im streaming and i literally wouldnt have anything to offer. people are sleeping while streaming and still getting paid. i really don't give a damn about a person using his disability to get paid. what i am saying is the viewers only want to see their names on the screen or hear their names mentioned. they are dumber than i think if they get offended when they find out that this guy used his disability to get some money off of bunch of randoms on the internet meanwhile they see no problem at all donating to a guy or a girl literally sleeping.
But he lied about it. He never said to any of his viewers he could walk, because he liked the sympathy from them. He was obviously trying hide it so he could get more brownie pointa
He told people he was paralyzed dude lmao
As for the wheelchair guy, their was a recent interview about a year or two ago, he explained his side of the story
well... don't leave our hanging; what did he say?
@piccolo54trunks2 He had an accident of some kind that temporary paralyzed him
Tuv has came so far! Very proud of him
Tuv did what? 🤨
Same
come*
How far? In Millimetres?
>:/
That kick promo is aging like milk.
Ngl when you said you stream on Kick, I thought you were talkin about Kik, the messaging app, I was like “how tf is he pulling that one off?” 😂
I listened to the audio of the last case you mentioned. You're spot-on. That's definitely S/A; I won't explain in detail because I'm not putting your viewers through that but everyone just know, yes, something was up, especially from the script and the audio, and there should have been further investigation into this.
poor girl omg i hope she sued or something
@@stargyal69she was too scared to press charges on him and he literally just went to a psych hospital without any jail time for it
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thanks
Thanks this really helped me a lot bless your soul
Thank you for helping me find these parts they’re both really good parts
0:01 first second 19:50 peniultimate second
the way that some people are so caught up in being "famous" that they think its fine to do the most insensitive and selfish bullshit is insane
I think fame and money in general brings out the worst of most people. Or they end up into drugs and alcohol. Most people can't deal with fame in a positive way. There are only a few that can stay grounded and not forget where they came from and that they are just human like everybody else and nothing special.
your editing skills have improved extremely and i am glad that you have been improving. Been subscribed before 1 million and i can tell that you have gotten really well at everything that i cant do. Love your content and i want to see more!
according to another video he’s actually hired some editors so it seems he’s developing a whole team now which is a great direction for him as it’s draining doing everything by urself
@@niaramhe has this SunnyV2 vibes.
@@BeleCoi totally. his editing reminds me of a lot of different channels. i like it tho, and i hope his videos don’t keep getting demonetized so that way he can support himself and pay the editors
@sicknerf3d837 SunnyV2 but with a personality, I love how objectively factual Sunny is but this isn't the same IMO, the face cam alone gives me more personal vibes like I would kill people for him and lock them in a dungeon ( I haven't built it yet will post vids soon) *NOT parasocial*
I love your perseverance of your brand and how you make the advertisement for them. Its lighthearted and i just like the way you show off the merch. Truly inspirational.
It’s too bad you made this video before the Toxic Gossip Train came through the station.
I remember watching the atrioc situation unfold before my eyes. It was so interesting to see how everyone handled it.
Anything wrong that someone has done can be redeemed, everyone makes mistakes, and everyone can change. Seeing people speak about what he did like they have never done anything wrong in their life drives me nuts. Like if you make a major mistake, but dont realize its a mistake until its done damage, then thats a learning experience that will make you a better person in the end. All humans make mistakes, and all humans have some fucked up thoughts and urges sometimes. I think hes prolly an awesome dude in real life, and dealing with the situation right after the moment it happened is commendable, out of all the people who speak of him like hes an irredeamable devil, i can guarantee most of them wouldnt take accountability and put in effort to change in the same situation.
@@robotjesus555666nah bruh this is unforgivable im surprised some female streamers forgave him
@@emma6648 You personally find it unforgiveable, that doesn't mean it was a factually unforgiveable action, as is evidence by the mountains of people who have forgiven him.
@@4bidn1 yeah forgave him but still call him weird
@@emma6648so, you say it’s unforgivable, and then say you’ve forgiven him? Pick a side.
The fact that people still don't understand ambulatory wheelchair users is so frustrating. People can and often do walk while in wheelchairs.
He should've told his followers then.
@@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult he did. And no one owes you their medical history
@@Theforestrysystem as a disabled person, he should have. Him not saying shit and then walking on stream makes him look like a liar and paints a LOT of actual disabled streamers in a bad light.
@@fullmetal_3961 he said in the interview why he was in a wheelchair and that he was walking and was getting better with the help of physical therapy
Dellor's story is a lot more deep tbh. He's had more freakouts and recently turned his life around it seems like
What I’m saying, he’s actually my favorite streamer bro, I remember back when he got hacked, got banned for smashing a keyboard on his head (which was completely unfair) and through everything his fans really had his back and he showed that love back to everyone even while there were just trolls laughing at him genuinely suffering through a horrible time. Bro almost killed himself all types of shit. He’s turned around and I’m very happy for him and hope he keeps pushin
BEEF ITS WHATS FOR DINNER
Yeah Dell0r has a good heart but definitely has some mental health issues that his chat takes advantage of. I’m glad he took the steps to get diagnosed for his illnesses and is making steps to improve his life all while still making a living as a streamer. He definitely still rages but it’s a lot less frequent and not nearly as bad thankfully.
he has, but his community always tries to get a kick out of him at the expense of his mental issues
@@gtyuitr he was racist and sexist... I don't really think that symbolises a good heart. And in regards to mental illness, it does not excuse that behaviour. Rage? Sure. Racism and sexism? Nope.
@@maddierule5594hes doing fine Madison.
Zillionop probably could have played it off by coming back in frame, sitting back down, and going, "tada! I've been in pt for a while working on walking again and I wanted to surprise you guys with my progress!" I can believe that he needed a wheelchair still despite being able to walk (my dad is in a similar situation physically though he uses a mobility scooter rather than a wheelchair. He can walk but only for short distances), but the way he handled it was just disastrous regardless of what the truth might be.
Atrioc's was pain, bro was my favorite streamer and when I missed the streams I always looked forward to his youtube vids. It's a shame he doesnt post as much anymore.
For those planning to look up "joe daddy audio", it's pretty mortifying and you'll catch yourself having a disgusted look on your face, just be aware. It's pretty horrifying.
Tuv never fails to tickle my tip
Bro what💀
No cap gang 💯 😤 😈🥶😎
Shouting out sunny doesn’t seem like the best look
you have some of the coolest merch i’ve ever seen for a youtuber wowie
Whenever tuv uploads I start crying tears of joy and frolic in fields while watching his new video
Youre not that guy, man.
@@goobleroncap
@@goobleronw mf doom
@hotafrosauce you *might* be that guy, but you forgot the golden rule bro, *ALL CAPS* when you spell the man name.
C'mon put some respect on it.
It's always a great day when tuv uploads
Wow a very original comment here guys, come like it!
☝️🤓
@@HilxMusicbros mad because their right
Most (un)original comment I’ve ever seen 🥰
@@kpopsoloswow most original comment eva 🥰🥰🤞
Tuv is one of my uncomfort comfort [refering to content] YTers, im so happy to have found him
he's helped me get through classes, ect..
thank you sm Tuv
i always get so happy when i see you post ❤ keep it up!!
Wtf does that even mean
Sometimes less is more.
@@benjaminfreeman9909 sometimes more is less
This seems like a backhanded compliment (aka an insult). Not a very good look...
“Uncomfort comfort” bro can’t decide 💀
Damn we lost another one to Kick
It’s odd, he spoke badly of them before so
@@bumblebeeproductions1673 Different service.
when you first said kick I thought you were talking about Kik: the messaging app for predators, and got real scared for a sec. 💀
I saw kick once, and i had to bleach my eyes
Tuv, its amazing seeing how far you've come! it's such an inspiration to never give up doing what you love.
I am in your walls
We are in your walls meista
@@dazzle2008 if you think about it, we are living inside another person's walls. we are but a mere skidmark of poo in the boxers of duke. we call life. Dig deep and you might just find that corn piece that holds the key to you finding your true self.
the editing on these videos have definetly takin a step up and i love it all the sound effects and visuals
Is it just me or when I see tuv doing well and his videos get better and the content evolve, I feel like a mother watching her baby graduate high school or sum shit lol
14:42 "doesn't look like he's gonna have a footing in the streaming world again unless he goes to kick."
Intended or not these puns are on point 😄😄
tuv i haven't watched your videos since last year, and you have improved so much i am proud of how much youve grown since then
Congrats on getting started at Kick! I don't think I personally will ever use the service because the higher ups at the company don't seem to be the types of people I would want to support, but it's good to have competition in the streaming space as it forces twitch to get their ass in line and stop fucking around with the lives of content creators by releasing and then backtracking on terrible policies every 3 months.
What did they do?
Owned by gambling companies
higher ups in any big company aren't ones you'd want to support. it's just that kick can't keep it behind closed doors. jeff bezos evading taxes, every social media app ever trading your personal information, signing your 'moral rights' away on reddit, facebook having access to your browsing history, etc etc.
@@deathrowShorty thats fair, but ill take that over actively homophobic people, primarily due to the fact that amazon clearly doesn’t make that much money off of Twitch if they’re firing large portions of their staff so my use or lack thereof of the service on my own wont change much, and the idea of being on a platform co-owned by Adin Ross is nauseating to me personally (not judging other people for chasing their bag though). If I have to choose between hyper-capitalism and nazi sympathizers, ill choose hyper-capitalism, but I don’t like either at the end of the day.
@@p.r.1308 Well Adin Ross is a co owner, and itd take ages to go down the list of what he’s done from consistently defending Andrew Tate, saying shitty stuff about the trans community (i get that most people don’t care about that but for me its one if my main reasons for disliking him since I have a lot of trans people in my life so I found that distasteful), and saying homophobic slurs on stream. Just an overall distasteful guy in my opinion, and Twitch did more to stop him including banning him for how hateful and anti-Semitic his chat was getting.
atrioc was one of my favorite streamers but Qt's apology video was so gut wrenching to see.
qt and atrioc are now cool again im pretty sure as he still is friends with ludwig
@@ebenezer-scrooge how can anyone take someone seriously who jerks off to deepfake lmfao
Dude I love this guy his videos are awesome and funny as hell and I like how he doesn't take like 10 hours to show what he's talking about and gets straighttothepoint. Oh and noticehe doesn't take like another 5 hours to show his products. He shows you the products that are now, tells you what's coming next, thanks his fans and gets right back to the video. That's why I love tuv
Really love the new haircut man you suit it
It's been said before, but not all wheelchair users are completely paralyzed or unable to walk. A lot of people have mobility that is just limited and not everyone uses a wheelchair 24/7.
we NEED a part two! I cant get enough of ur vids. Keep it up 💫
I heard the audio of the last entry, not a lot makes me cry, but I was so shaken and upset after hearing that. Being SA'd is literally one of my biggest fears.
I respect how Atrioc handled the situation. I have been the victim of some stuff on the internet (I won’t get into detail), but if I found out that a person who participated took accountability, felt genuinely sorry, and then spent substantial time and money (relative to their financial status) to develop very needed tools to help me and other people like me… it would actually mean a lot to me. None of us can turn back time and undo the bad and hurtful things we’ve all done. But it’s so rare to see a person actually try to make things right in a way that isn’t superficial or just completely disingenuous.
they're never genuinely sorry lol if they were they wouldn't have done the shit they did in the first place. They always would have kept going if they weren't caught.
@hush9185 your point doesn't use the right evidence.
Atrioc has claimed that the one time he got caught was the only time he looked at it because he was curious about AI (He was interested in the development of AI around that time). You saying that he did it multiple times doesn't correlated with the evidence.
It really is unfair on the unfair treatment of different genders when it come to online activity. I know everybody do stupid things but I've been watching multiple videos where almost the whole world has to come together to take down one female streamer. But as soon as a guy makes one mistake his stream is taking down almost instantly. I really hope folks start to wake up and start to fight back especially on twitch they are really bad with it
I'm digging how tuv has improved, both in confidence and presentation and the editing. Oh, and the hair, getting some 90s vibe mixed in with 20s, lookin' good.
Can't believe Earl would do something so horrible he was one of my favourite creators
ive been watching tuv since he made the girls simping for school shooter video and ive just been watching as his channel rises up and up, keep it up tuv
kick is a heavily gambling oriented streaming site btw, i am not against gambling, but the only gambling i like is in an actual big professional casino offline
Great work tuv
love you tuv!! thanks for all the great videos, this is def my favorite channel for this type of content
Influencing people to go onto a platform that’s actively trying to get kids addicted to gambling feels bad man. Like great to have competition for twitch and a 90/10 split for creators but if the money’s coming from ppl gambling all their money away :/
Tuv is way too underrated
Went on a binge of your content then it just randomly stopped appearing on my recommended. Finally im back
The Dellor ordeal where someone said it was "Discrimination" when it was obviously "Racism"..
tuv coming in a clutch and making my day better, thanks man
We need a part 2, maybe even a three, this is a rabbithole that needs to be exposed more and more
Its not being “exposed” he’s just combining other ppls research into a video
yay tuv i’m so proud of you!!! your channel blew tf up and you have a great fan base! makes me happy :D
I had a near heart attack thinking you were referring to Kik 💀
Thanks for covering the Atrioc situation in the most detail, this is exactly what I expected from you
if this is the same (new) editor that you started with recently than i really am liking the progression! it seemed a little awkward in the first video but definitely seems to be hitting a stride to match yr vibe and content! look forward to seeing how they progress w it cause damn what a step in a vid 👏
I love tuv a lot as a creator, but it it sucks that youtube has basicly forced him to bring his content to a less dark material. I still love his content and will continue to support him but youtube is really a bitch.
Nice shotgun for a snail, but I got my flintlock you snailing snail
TH-cam ☕
zilianop's situation was a big misunderstanding. also, i wouldn't get your information from sunnyv2. sure, some of his videos are entertaining, but he's had bad information, or just straight up misinformation in some of them. he also has a hard time remaining unbiased. there's nothing inherently wrong with that in itself, but it becomes a problem when you're using his videos for solid information.
"Go cook a sandwich" is unironicly such a banger line
I never see anyone mention this but his profile pic is really cool
tuv always here to make our day better
He is so likable 😭
Been watching tuv since at least 100k, love his videos and love to see how far he’s come and exited to see how far he gets❤️❤️
Bro the editing got so much better lmao great video tuv
its so crazy to me how ive been watching your videos since you had under 400k and now your doing colabs with charlie and other famous people!!. its insane dude i feel like a proud mom
Every time someone quotes a sunnyv2 video, I immediately stop everything and fact-check.
What happened to Atrioc makes me so sad, I watched him all the time before that happened. I hope one day he will return.
He still does stream on twitch and his vods channel gets uploads quite often so you could see him there
Ew lol.
atrioc situation is so upsetting and i dont think he should be forgiven, something similar happened at my school where nudes of girls were edited and leaked, i knew of at least 3 girls who had killed themselves - it hurts to see how many people forgive him
He has tried and tried to prove to y’all that he has changed. But you want more.
@@GorillaWithAPhone i don't care how much he tries, what he did was so fucked and you really can't expect any woman to forgive him :p if some do, cool, but as someone who's seen first hand what ts does to ppl, i won't ever forgive him
Question, considering that you won’t forgive him, which is understandable for your reasoning given, what do you think he should do now?
Bro just tuned back in on this channel. It’s amazing how far you have gotten! Last time i saw one of your videoes you had 3 K subs! This warms my heart! Keep up the good work❤️.
I love how all the TH-camrs I watch are connected, Tuv gave sunnyv2 a shout out and in sunnyv2 video he gives wavywebsurf a shout out 😂 then there moridforfun this man knows all 3 TH-camrs and has videos with Tuv. It’s just great seeing y’all work together.
Omg Tuv just brought up wavywebsurfs video that sunnyv2 shouted out, y’all are insane with support for each other! This is amazing 😂❤️
Everyone knows being tired turns everyone racist. If everyone in the world could get a full 8 hours we'd all be hugging and dancing in circles n shit.
csgo players be getting negative hours of sleep then
Missed ya tuv! Hope you’re doing well ! As always enjoyed the great content ! :)
I truly do hope this video doesn't age poorly for tuv.
Already did because of the zillian part
@@SquareBlock5 wait what
@@WhimsicalLittledawg zillian is innocent lmao but he just brushes it off lmao
@@SquareBlock5 wait what
@@WhimsicalLittledawgzillian was disabled but in physical therapy so he wasn't completely wheelchair bound at all
The ban about Syndicate reminder at the start of the video hit nostalgia, I used to watch his zombies vids back in the old days like all syndicate fans. Just randomly stopped watching him though and never went back.
Ok woah-I actually really like that plush design
Great vid but the Dellor "gamer-word" situation happened before he blew up as a streamer. And dellor wasn't 'excusing' his actions, he was just explaining the factors that led up to that situation, plus dellor said himself that he deserved the punishment he got. If he was actually making excuses he would have explained the factors that led up to the gamer-word situation and justified his behavior based on those factors (which he didn't do). Only complaint about the vid. Good video.
I’ve been watching you since you basically started uploading, but I’m really conflicted with how to feel about this video and the discussion surrounding the Zillian situation. With taking info from and praising SunnyV2 after all of the public and proven disrespect along with the condescension in “why lie though” etc, it is kind of upsetting. As a physically disabled person, I know how it is to need to change mobility aids depending on the day or time of day. And regarding lying, I know of so many times I have “lied” or hid bits of my conditions so people wouldn’t look down on me or pity me. I don’t think he should be criticized for being insecure about what his disability is/was actually like. Tuv, I will still continue to watch your videos in hopes that this ignorance (while it may be subtle) in research does not become a pattern, though it seems as though some others fear that to be the case. I hope you will continue to create the content that we know and love you for, despite whatever missteps there may be along the way
Yeah, it made me feel strange too. I also watched tuv since he had a couple thousand subscribers, and as an lgbtq+ person it was kind off disappointing to see him shout out sunnyv2. Also the misinformation about disabled people is very harmful and a topic of that streamer requires more research than a sunnyv2 video.
I don't have too much to say that you already haven't, but I very much agree. I heavily doubt he just wasn't aware that SunnyV2 had done anything bad because it was practically the only thing people talked about the week the video was made. It's really off-putting. I got a similar vibe when he started streaming on kick, but I did trust he wasn't going to be that kinda guy, and I don't believe he is, but I think a lot of minor things like can impact your opinion of someone.
@@therosearts5081 yeah I’m trans as well so it really caught me off guard. And I didn’t wanna say it cuz I wasn’t sure if I was wrong for thinking it, but the whole streaming on Kik thing is really bothersome with how much the platform profits off of exploiting young people and harboring people who Tuv has spoken against. Like I’m not trying to witch hunt people, but there are just some things that can’t be overlooked
@@maladyL yeah, like you want to be able to look past things but they just seem to keep piling up and in the worst way possible
You're not a streamer living off subs on Twitch. You don't owe transparency to anyone about your condition... But he did. Yes, he might be actually disabled, but the fact he only came forward about his state when caught, that his girlfriend reacted the way she did, and that he only let it slip because he was in a moment of distress shows that he is not as innocent as he claims to be.
Number one: Tuv
He showed his balls on his stream
Screenshot pls
I've been watching atrioc hitman videos for the past couple months and had no idea this happened! You're my favorite (informative?) youtube channel, keep up the good content. 🎉🎉🎉
tuvington?
He actually said it 61 times I counted 10:11
If you say slurs while you're angry, that's not a brain fart. That's just who you actually are. It's really hard to be someone else while you're mad.
god DAMN tuv your videos are getting on a whole new level of editing. its awesome
Tuv really hired SunnyV2 as the editor for the video
In that wheelchair guys defense. I work at a hospital and tons of patients there do need wheelchairs simply to get around better. I even have a supervisor who uses a walker. I saw her walking without it one day and thought she was faking the whole time but she explained that she does need it because it helps her balance better and that she has extreme amounts of pain in her back if she doesnt have proper balance. She can walk around without it but only for a limited amount of time. So there are many people out there who arent bound to wheelchairs and/or walkers, but it does provide them with great assistance. They also do undergo physical therapy sessions to help them possibly have to use walking assistance less. I guess just in that guys case, he should have just explained that from the beginning. Because car crashes can leave you paralyzed or they could just force you into needing assistance getting around. If he had explained that in the beginning I think people would have actually understood it better and accepted it. Guess he thought acting fully unable to walk garnered him more sympathy points.
The explaining from beginning part is where people have the issue, and their initial reaction to him standing even screams that's what they were doing. It's the like little white lie to squeeze the extra ten bucks from someone that makes people upset. Granted you couldn't tell that from these comments.
Yapper
Atrioc is still pulling in the same numbers as he did for the alt-tab incident. Yeah he might’ve lost respect in his the streaming field, he’s still a bigger streamer.
Cause all the people watching him are just as scummy as him duhhh
That's because men kinda suck and don't really care about the effect deepfake porn has on women and girls. Matter of fact, they get off to the negative effects it has. I bet a lot of you men and boys like Atrioc and think he's relatable for doing what he's done. Super gross.
Tuv is the only person that’s actually making me consider Kick honestly
1:16. Woah editing skills- Great vid ^^
10:00 average overwatch player
Can I just say that your videos are always so awesome? It never loses its touch and it is just so entertaining, so much so that I just cannot stop watching. Keep up the great work as usual, tuv. ❤
i’m not sure if you should still respect sunnyv2, after what he said about mr beasts friend and countless other things
Aged well
i’m loving this new editing style!!! kudos to the editor !!❤️