Thinkin’ about it now… I don’t recall ever see’n a thumbs down on any of your videos… how could anybody not like the Tinman?…! Awesome brother, thanks!
Sorry weird typo on that last comment. Hey Tinman, love your builds. Making reliable strong running work songs. My advice to get more viewers is too when you get to your saws Gibson farmertec cylinders and push it to the limits. Might help get some extra viewers. Just for me personally want to see gnarly saws. Like I said, like watching your builds.
Nice info and content. Just wondering about balance on the piston. Can you get piston slap if one side is different than the other. Is the amount you are removing not significant enough to throw off the balance of the piston? I was thinking you could weigh the original untouched piston, grind one side get new weight then grind the other side or even quarter it by weight. Any thoughts anyone.... TC Mahalo Tinman🤙🤙🤙
Hi Tinman, Nice video. Will help my future rebuilds. One question for you though. As I understand it the pistons and cylinders have already been heat treated from the factory. Do you apply another heat treatment after prepping the piston? Would be neat if you could address that in one of your videos, especially if you’ve noticed improvements to life and durability of pistons that were heat treated again compared to those that haven’t been reheated. Cheers….
I have learned so much from you. I also had a question. When I raise my exhaust port do you know why it gets more rpm. I think I may be beginning to figure out how to regulate the pressure from intake to exhaust. With a high intake duration. Trying to figure out exhaust vacuum with relationship to the crankcase. Sorry for typos my microphone is not doing to well this evening, I typed this one out. Hope to hear from you thank you so much for taking the time to teach us.
@Tinman's saws I'm waiting for a couple of cylinder kit to arrive before l start on my first 2 saws a Husky 55 with a 028av piston and a 357xp + a Hyway pop up piston.
Tinman, I need a ripper. I need a saw for cutting lumber. Something that has the power, dependability, and rpm’s to rip lumber all day. What do you recommend or recommend building one?
Inquiring mind here. Since you saved 13% on the piston and wrist pin could you loose about the same on the crank and flywheel some how? If you could would you? I’d like to open a conversation about this if anyone would like to chime in. I’d like to hear your thoughts
I always wonder about this. The crank has an offset weight to balance out the rod and piston and reduce vibration. If you had a rotational balancing rig, then yes I think you could reduce vibration by taking material out of the crank.
Thanks for your response James. It may be easy enough to drill progressively bigger holes through the counter weights till you got to that 13% loss. Or however a guy wants to skin that proverbial cat. You also have a good point. Now I wonder if Tinman will notice an increase in vibration. I sure hope he sees this conversation
I'm not sure you can just take 13g out of the crank, as it's on a shorter distance from the centre than the piston, therefore it's got less leverage, so potentially you have to take more out. Think of it like a see saw with a 60kg person at the end of one end, a 120kg person would need to sit half way between the pivot and the end of the other side to balance it. Probably is so small as makes no difference.
No doubt There would science n math involved. The crank and flywheel has all that mass specifically designed to overcome the inertia and compression of that piston and rod. It might be splitting hairs or it could be another go fast move!
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Thinkin’ about it now… I don’t recall ever see’n a thumbs down on any of your videos… how could anybody not like the Tinman?…!
Awesome brother, thanks!
perfect teaching video, now back to the shop.
Great vid Bud!! Showing the actual ins and outs.
awesome tinman ,peace an love from scotland stu an family .
Snip this off and it will NEVER come out.....usually. hahaha love it
Great info man love this channel you and Harvey share so much❤❤
Great video Tinman. I really love your work. Can't wait to see the saw back together and in the wood.
Nice Friday night shop vid, can’t wait to see the next vid on this 288, I’m excited I get to tear down my 266se tomorrow 😁
Thanks to you and Harvey, I've been paying much more attention to pistons! Wether I'm in a saw for performance work or not.
Great to hear!
Keep em coming Tinman! Dying for a 181/281/ 288 for my channel but so few of them here in the UK!
great video, so cool to see how these subtle changes make such a difference..thumbs up !!
Great video tin man
nice work per usual Tinman 😊😊
love you build
Nice work Tinman!!! Love your content!
Thanks for being here ninja
Sorry weird typo on that last comment. Hey Tinman, love your builds. Making reliable strong running work songs.
My advice to get more viewers is too when you get to your saws Gibson farmertec cylinders and push it to the limits. Might help get some extra viewers. Just for me personally want to see gnarly saws. Like I said, like watching your builds.
I have buddies that have bought stuff from Wolf Creek, and they love it!
Great video Tinman! Would love to see weight comparison of various piston brands for more saws!
I love it
Going to mod up my 066 that's going together. The meteor piston is heavier than OEM. So hoping to get the flow better and reduce weight a little.
Nice info and content. Just wondering about balance on the piston. Can you get piston slap if one side is different than the other. Is the amount you are removing not significant enough to throw off the balance of the piston? I was thinking you could weigh the original untouched piston, grind one side get new weight then grind the other side or even quarter it by weight. Any thoughts anyone.... TC Mahalo Tinman🤙🤙🤙
Hi Tinman, Nice video. Will help my future rebuilds. One question for you though. As I understand it the pistons and cylinders have already been heat treated from the factory. Do you apply another heat treatment after prepping the piston? Would be neat if you could address that in one of your videos, especially if you’ve noticed improvements to life and durability of pistons that were heat treated again compared to those that haven’t been reheated. Cheers….
Wolf creek saw shop
I have learned so much from you. I also had a question. When I raise my exhaust port do you know why it gets more rpm. I think I may be beginning to figure out how to regulate the pressure from intake to exhaust. With a high intake duration. Trying to figure out exhaust vacuum with relationship to the crankcase. Sorry for typos my microphone is not doing to well this evening, I typed this one out. Hope to hear from you thank you so much for taking the time to teach us.
I always watch your porting videos, I'm learning so much, keep up the teaching vids....👍
Have you tried those clutch springs yet?
Haven't used one yet but I have a couple saws that I'll need to do. Thanks
@Tinman's saws I'm waiting for a couple of cylinder kit to arrive before l start on my first 2 saws a Husky 55 with a 028av piston and a 357xp + a Hyway pop up piston.
Tinman, I need a ripper. I need a saw for cutting lumber. Something that has the power, dependability, and rpm’s to rip lumber all day. What do you recommend or recommend building one?
I'm trying to trade my cousin out of a 288 hopefully I can get it done
Pick a part
Is it better to buy a beat up 288 that needs a bunch work or a new clone if they are the same or similar price?
Great question, hopefully someone will answer :)
Depends on how bad the oem saw is. The one I'm pickin oarts off has broken cases and the plastic is trashed so it's too far gone
@Tinman's saws so it's better to put some OEM stuff or at least good AF one, and make a solid chinesium built?
Thats what I'm doing here
@Tinman's saws thank You can't help myself with idea of building one of these, but some lighter stuff like 361 for example 😉
Inquiring mind here. Since you saved 13% on the piston and wrist pin could you loose about the same on the crank and flywheel some how? If you could would you? I’d like to open a conversation about this if anyone would like to chime in. I’d like to hear your thoughts
I always wonder about this. The crank has an offset weight to balance out the rod and piston and reduce vibration. If you had a rotational balancing rig, then yes I think you could reduce vibration by taking material out of the crank.
Thanks for your response James. It may be easy enough to drill progressively bigger holes through the counter weights till you got to that 13% loss. Or however a guy wants to skin that proverbial cat.
You also have a good point. Now I wonder if Tinman will notice an increase in vibration. I sure hope he sees this conversation
I'm not sure you can just take 13g out of the crank, as it's on a shorter distance from the centre than the piston, therefore it's got less leverage, so potentially you have to take more out. Think of it like a see saw with a 60kg person at the end of one end, a 120kg person would need to sit half way between the pivot and the end of the other side to balance it.
Probably is so small as makes no difference.
No doubt There would science n math involved. The crank and flywheel has all that mass specifically designed to overcome the inertia and compression of that piston and rod. It might be splitting hairs or it could be another go fast move!
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Build it stock an see what fails so I won't need to trouble shoot it LOL 8p
Looks great. Awesome work. Can’t wait to hear this one run.