The captain should immediately lose his pilot's license and be charged with reckless endangerment of the passengers and crew on board. He was the one in charge of the flight and not the less experienced copilot.
In reference to the comments below, there is a difference between the noun disaster and the adjective disastrous and the video maker is quite correct to describe the landing as disastrous as it put the lives of all aboard at risk and led to the total loss of the aircraft. To describe the whole event as a disaster would not be correct as no lives were lost. Near disaster might be possible.
I'm surprised that none of these comments has mentioned that surely the crew must have noticed the lack of braking power after landing - they still thought it was a deflated tyre! And if they had followed the airline's standard instructions and 'gone around' after the heavy bounce, they would have had no landing gear to land on after the second approach. I guess the standard instructions didn't reckon on a total gear collapse.
There is no way they didn’t know the gear had collapsed, the noise levels from dragging the belly along the tarmac would have been much higher than normal, and they would have noticed the upward angle of the cockpit restricting their field of vision. Both should never fly again.
I experienced a rough landing flying into KFLL: Runway 10L, Winds 90º almost straight down the runway, 15 KTS gusting to 35 KTS(!) Airspeed ±20 KTIAS. Flare and stall??? A real crapshoot. Come in hot for the gusts, if the gusts stop, the aircraft stalls about 15 feet above the runway. The tower doesn't have a runway jack. We hit the runway like a brick. My teeth snapped shut and all of the 'geese' let out a huge groan. I was surprised that the main gear held out. I waited for all of the pax to leave the plane and then I walked to the front and requested permission to approach the flight deck. I stuck my head in and said "I don't know what they're all bitching about... 'ya caught the first wire. The Captain burst out laughing and the First Officer (newly hired from the U.S. Navy) just hung his head. A memorable flight for me.
I’m not a pilot, but I cannot believe they both failed to realize the rear gear had collapsed. Even without the auditory and tactile indications, the nose of the airplane would pitch up and they would be looking at the sky rather than the runway.
Wait a minute! They are landing 06 and the wind is at 140. That is a right crosswind, not left. The captain should have been doing his job, however, the F.O. should have easily been able to land the aircraft by himself or he shouldn't be there. He had 4000 bloody hours. What if the Captain was incapacitated? In my opinion, there is no way he should have kept the autopilot on that late in the approach. He should have had things stabilized way back at the outer marker after the gear went down. Just crab into wind to maintain the localizer/centerline, then left rudder, to straighten it out just before landing. Right aileron after touchdown to keep the aircraft from flipping over from the wind. Students learn that before they are allowed to go solo. Pilots let computers fly the aircraft nowadays. I guess the Captain would want to photograph this crash too and add it to his collection...........after he is out of work ( I hope). "What is that scraping noise? Hmmm. Beats me."
@@DavidWsTrainVideos I still see jazz on flightradar, I'd never fly AC either, really the only canadian airline i'll fly is transat and you have to watch to make sure they don't stick you on a second party plane since they started using smart wings I think it was
"Disastrous Landing"...... all passengers and crew survive without any injuries. By the looks of the damage, even their luggage was likely unharmed. This is not a disaster.
@@ratcamp Not only that, but the captain's promotion to a better set of routes was delayed. His realtor, stockbroker, dentist & travel agent considered that a disaster.
@@arturo468on top of everything else you can bet that judging by all the damage that plane was full of passengers that were just happy to be alive and will never fly Air Canada again
On your videos in the future, airliners and other airplanes do not taxi, day or night, with the wing tip white strobes on and flashing. They are generally turned on after receiving takeoff clearance on the runway.
Both pilots were not fired. The pilot union managed to save both these incompetent idiots from termination. The First Officer managed to be hired at WestJet before his name became public knowledge. So he is their problem now. The Captain remained at Jazz.
@@jetdriverp At westjet ,wonder if he was piloting the plane we were on from calgary to Toronto in 2018,that was a hard landing and braking quickly,felt like we went from the back to the front ,whoooooo that was hairy
At the 4:35 point specifically, and during the takeoff sequence, CRJ engines NEVER emit a smoke trail at all. GE engines have been smokeless for decades, some P&W engines still leave little carbon trails if you know when to look!
I've been in a plane where it bounced, and the touchdown was hard. (And the whole cabin reacted - screams, etc. I screamed into the stuffed animal my therapist had advised me, a woman in her late 40s, to carry on my lap - ever so grateful I had that!!! ) However, it never dawned on me until this video that it might have been b/c one of the pilots was a photographer . . . !
Air Canada pilots are one of the finest trained pilots in the air. They have more logges hours flying than a lot of other airline pilots. I have nothing but praise for them and their handling of the aircraft and I have flown more hours with them than any other airline and that is the reason why.
@spaceace1006yeah he is talented but he’s one of only a few - for such a big country though united 232 captains Al Haynes and Denny Fitch are a couple of absolute heroes too 🎉
Another fine example of Canadian airmanship. The nonchalant attitude of many Canadian pilots cause this situation and is a real issue for the flying public as well as Canadian Aviation Authorities.
@spaceace1006 Says a person from the country with an ex-president shart-head facing over 91 indictments, already found guilty of rape, running a fake charity and University, tried to foment an insurrection and whom a significant portion of Americans would put right back in the big chair. Americans other than those are awesome people and your country is warm to visit in the winter. So there's that.. . . .
Canada actually has some of the best pilots in the world, and some aviation pioneers that revolutionized the industry. An incident like this hasn't happened for years.
With the destruction of the plane….what happened to the pilot and co-pilot? Were they fired. After all they were not paying attention in the cockpit - esp. the pilot.
.......am I the only one here that thinks that the pilot should be held responsible for this debacle of a landing. If he had had his mind on the job before him and not distracted by taking photos of the previous accident site he'd have been more attentive to the landing before him. I think the pilot should have been severely punished or even fired for this grave error in judgement.
looks like a copy of fight channel , its cool , wonder if the captain got a picture of that ... they don't know they have any wheels , what ! your both fired !!!
Th pilots don’t know the landing gear did not come down? Wouldn’t the pitch of the nose give you suspicious N that something wasn’t right other than deflated tires? Just seems odd to me that they thought that but then again I’m no pilot and by no means know a lot about planes in that manner.
The landing gear came down just fine. What they didn’t realize is that the main gear collapsed during their unusually harsh bounced landing. That effed up landing put stress on the landing gear well beyond its design limits.
No. wonder there was a problem. The word Jazz is hot and they tried flying in the cold blue sky. (The word Jazz also reminds me of gingivitis in your gums.)
Should a Co-Pilot not be competent enough to land the aircraft on his own? After all, that is one of the reasons for a second pilot, as a backup if the Captain becomes incapacitated. But then again, it is Air Canada. Why should we expect more! Hope the pictures were worth the millions of dollars in destroyed airplane.
The second pilot, it’s not particularly a backup of the captain becomes incapacitated. He is the senior pilot, both pilots, fly sectors, and the other pilot, not flying, manages, radios, manipulate suit and controls and other stuff, so either pilot is able to operate on their own in an emergency.
I’d say that given the failure of the landing gear, that was a helluva landing. Exemplary skills by the pilot, co-pilot and crew. Scary as hell for the passengers? Of course. Disaster? Get over yourself.
@@jetdriverp You may be right about me not “paying attention to the facts.” I saw JAZZ, and instantly wrote it off as a matter of shabby maintenance. (Sad, since Air Canada used to be a premier airline.). But, there’s NO getting over me. They all try… and fail.
Great, now the Captain has not one ( AF A340), but two crash aircraft photos to his collections
The captain should immediately lose his pilot's license and be charged with reckless endangerment of the passengers and crew on board. He was the one in charge of the flight and not the less experienced copilot.
A first officer should still know how to land a plane safely
How the heck did they not make the difference between a deflated tire and a plane scraping half of its belly on the concrete ???
When the captain said he intended on taking photos during landing I literally shuddered
Don’t you mean “shuttered”? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
In reference to the comments below, there is a difference between the noun disaster and the adjective disastrous and the video maker is quite correct to describe the landing as disastrous as it put the lives of all aboard at risk and led to the total loss of the aircraft. To describe the whole event as a disaster would not be correct as no lives were lost. Near disaster might be possible.
I'm surprised that none of these comments has mentioned that surely the crew must have noticed the lack of braking power after landing - they still thought it was a deflated tyre!
And if they had followed the airline's standard instructions and 'gone around' after the heavy bounce, they would have had no landing gear to land on after the second approach.
I guess the standard instructions didn't reckon on a total gear collapse.
I hope these guys are driving cabs to and from the airport now.
Like Ted Stryker?
Not even
Not even drivers licenses 😮
They are probably driving airport shuttle buses around the airport.
The captains most uttered phrase is now "Welcome to Walmart!"
There is no way they didn’t know the gear had collapsed, the noise levels from dragging the belly along the tarmac would have been much higher than normal, and they would have noticed the upward angle of the cockpit restricting their field of vision.
Both should never fly again.
Title should read: How to write off a multi-million dollar plane in 20 seconds
In reality the plane was probably only worth about 500K at the time of the write off.
These "pilots" need to lose their license permanently.
No bro they fucking don't have to remember this happened in 2007 you have no sense in aviation
I reserve judgement on copilot.
The low rider drives a little slower 😂
Your graphics and visual details have been enhanced. Excellent, thank you.
I experienced a rough landing flying into KFLL: Runway 10L, Winds 90º almost straight down the runway, 15 KTS gusting to 35 KTS(!) Airspeed ±20 KTIAS. Flare and stall??? A real crapshoot. Come in hot for the gusts, if the gusts stop, the aircraft stalls about 15 feet above the runway. The tower doesn't have a runway jack.
We hit the runway like a brick. My teeth snapped shut and all of the 'geese' let out a huge groan. I was surprised that the main gear held out. I waited for all of the pax to leave the plane and then I walked to the front and requested permission to approach the flight deck. I stuck my head in and said "I don't know what they're all bitching about... 'ya caught the first wire.
The Captain burst out laughing and the First Officer (newly hired from the U.S. Navy) just hung his head. A memorable flight for me.
Interesting video. Thank you very much for sharing.
Não tenho conhecimento técnico, mas acho que não era o momento e nem a pessoa certa para tirar fotos. Abraço 🇧🇷
I’m not a pilot, but I cannot believe they both failed to realize the rear gear had collapsed. Even without the auditory and tactile indications, the nose of the airplane would pitch up and they would be looking at the sky rather than the runway.
How could they not know...?
Wait a minute! They are landing 06 and the wind is at 140. That is a right crosswind, not left. The captain should have been doing his job, however, the F.O. should have easily been able to land the aircraft by himself or he shouldn't be there. He had 4000 bloody hours. What if the Captain was incapacitated? In my opinion, there is no way he should have kept the autopilot on that late in the approach. He should have had things stabilized way back at the outer marker after the gear went down. Just crab into wind to maintain the localizer/centerline, then left rudder, to straighten it out just before landing. Right aileron after touchdown to keep the aircraft from flipping over from the wind. Students learn that before they are allowed to go solo. Pilots let computers fly the aircraft nowadays. I guess the Captain would want to photograph this crash too and add it to his collection...........after he is out of work ( I hope). "What is that scraping noise? Hmmm. Beats me."
That is a fantastic recreation wow so realistic. Thanks
9:10 wth you bang the gear struts out the wells?
Add Jazz to the no fly list! holy crap couldn't tell the gear collaped?
Just a heads up….They are called Air Canada Express now.
Why did they get rid of Jazz for Express?@@DavidWsTrainVideos
@@DavidWsTrainVideos I still see jazz on flightradar, I'd never fly AC either, really the only canadian airline i'll fly is transat and you have to watch to make sure they don't stick you on a second party plane since they started using smart wings I think it was
@@Zzrdemon6633Yes Jazz aviation still exists as a contract carrier for Air Canada.
Just think how hard they must have hit the ground to make it collapse, and they thought nothing was wrong? except maybe a flat tire.
Did the captain get sacked
"Disastrous Landing"...... all passengers and crew survive without any injuries. By the looks of the damage, even their luggage was likely unharmed. This is not a disaster.
Yes it is, the plane was a total loss. Anyone with a brain would consider that a disastrous landing.
@@ratcamp
Not only that, but the captain's promotion to a better set of routes was delayed. His realtor, stockbroker, dentist & travel agent considered that a disaster.
It was a disaster for the pilots and the aircraft.
It depends how picky one is.
@@arturo468on top of everything else you can bet that judging by all the damage that plane was full of passengers that were just happy to be alive and will never fly Air Canada again
"It seems like the tires deflated" Ya think so, Einsteain??
Einstein.
Unbelivable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....but did his photos come out OK?
Nobody in the tower noticed?
15 Right or Left wasn’t long enough?
Big fan of your videos ❤
Sure doesn't look like Toronto Airport that I know
On your videos in the future, airliners and other airplanes do not taxi, day or night, with the wing tip white strobes on and flashing. They are generally turned on after receiving takeoff clearance on the runway.
Love the video. I was working at YYZ when both the Air France and this happened. I heard both pilots were fired.
Both pilots were not fired. The pilot union managed to save both these incompetent idiots from termination. The First Officer managed to be hired at WestJet before his name became public knowledge. So he is their problem now. The Captain remained at Jazz.
@@jetdriverp. Unions: Keeping the incompetent, lazy and corrupt employed.
@@jetdriverp At westjet ,wonder if he was piloting the plane we were on from calgary to Toronto in 2018,that was a hard landing and braking quickly,felt like we went from the back to the front ,whoooooo that was hairy
that music made me very sad for the loss of the airplane
At the 4:35 point specifically, and during the takeoff sequence, CRJ engines NEVER emit a smoke trail at all. GE engines have been smokeless for decades, some P&W engines still leave little carbon trails if you know when to look!
I've been in a plane where it bounced, and the touchdown was hard. (And the whole cabin reacted - screams, etc. I screamed into the stuffed animal my therapist had advised me, a woman in her late 40s, to carry on my lap - ever so grateful I had that!!! ) However, it never dawned on me until this video that it might have been b/c one of the pilots was a photographer . . . !
Did screaming make it softer??
Scare Canada at it's best !
They sure seem to have a lot of incidents
Would always like to hear more about what happened to pilots after investigations have been completed.
They are now driving trucks, hitting overpasses.
Oh they are? Try not being simple .
It would be safer if you were though, wouldn’t it ?@@lesleybrody-sweet3862
😂😂
"Hold on a minute, I'm going to take some photos of this Freight France truck wreck that happened a year ago" - The captain as a truck driver
Well, what happened to the photographer captain? Was he fired?
Full power to taxi.
Clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right.
Air Canada pilots are one of the finest trained pilots in the air. They have more logges hours flying than a lot of other airline pilots. I have nothing but praise for them and their handling of the aircraft and I have flown more hours with them than any other airline and that is the reason why.
@spaceace1006 I see your Sully, and raise you a Gimli Glider.
@spaceace1006yeah he is talented but he’s one of only a few - for such a big country though united 232 captains Al Haynes and Denny Fitch are a couple of absolute heroes too 🎉
And first officer roger Pettit I think?
So much for the old joke: "You know you landed gear up when you have to use full power to taxi to the terminal"
Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz were and are two separate airlines with two separate employee groups.
Another fine example of Canadian airmanship. The nonchalant attitude of many Canadian pilots cause this situation and is a real issue for the flying public as well as Canadian Aviation Authorities.
@spaceace1006 Says a person from the country with an ex-president shart-head facing over 91 indictments, already found guilty of rape, running a fake charity and University, tried to foment an insurrection and whom a significant portion of Americans would put right back in the big chair. Americans other than those are awesome people and your country is warm to visit in the winter. So there's that.. . . .
@spaceace1006It’s ok. We in the U S had a clown as president but most of us saw sense and dumped the traitor in2020.
@@tonymurray814 You're an Idiot.
Canada actually has some of the best pilots in the world, and some aviation pioneers that revolutionized the industry. An incident like this hasn't happened for years.
Did the captain ever post his photos anywhere?
Lol
Might well be the most expensive pictures ever taken. Except for the cockpit pictures from the Columbia or the Challenger!💥💥💥
What were the consequences for the pilot?
Great recreation!
The passengers are lucky they made it out alive after flying with these two goobers.
Was the pilot fired ???
With the destruction of the plane….what happened to the pilot and co-pilot? Were they fired. After all they were not paying attention in the cockpit - esp. the pilot.
You know something is wrong with the landing gear when you need full throttle to taxi.
Was the captain fired and banned for life as he should be?
This could have gone so wrong… 😮
Photos last forever; planes don’t.
Pilot was Dan Gryder 😏
Is he still flying?
@@elizabethfauvelle7524 in between his many crashes, yes 👍
.......am I the only one here that thinks that the pilot should be held responsible for this debacle of a landing. If he had had his mind on the job before him and not distracted by taking photos of the previous accident site he'd have been more attentive to the landing before him. I think the pilot should have been severely punished or even fired for this grave error in judgement.
That’s my personal jet right there
Air Canada Jazz. Well, I hope they didn't lose your luggage on top of all that!
Those maggots (spelled with an F) lost my luggage twice. Once there wasn’t even a connecting flight.
@@FlatBroke612 no need to respond with a derogatory slur.
Name says it all lol ..as far as luggage I'm batting FO with Westjet now whatcha going to do slick 😅
Pffff sometimes I wonder.. if I still would be in aviation.
How mucht stupid things i would have done myselve.
I would not want to be a passenger with that captain up front.
7:59 wtf are u dooin?
Everyone survives, including their luggage. Regrettable but hardly a disaster.
That Captain belongs at Aeroflot
In all fairness to the Captain, lots of people like to take photos during their last day on the job.
Pilots trained at Disney World...
The co pilot should have been able to land even successfully without the captains input IF he had had enough experience, obviously he did not.
And in the end, all passsenders lost their lugages.
The luggage was actually okay
FUI?
looks like a copy of fight channel , its cool , wonder if the captain got a picture of that ... they don't know they have any wheels , what ! your both fired !!!
Th pilots don’t know the landing gear did not come down? Wouldn’t the pitch of the nose give you suspicious
N that something wasn’t right other than deflated tires? Just seems odd to me that they thought that but then again I’m no pilot and by no means know a lot about planes in that manner.
The landing gear came down just fine. What they didn’t realize is that the main gear collapsed during their unusually harsh bounced landing. That effed up landing put stress on the landing gear well beyond its design limits.
Did the pilots keep their jobs?
Probably not, but the airline never disclosed that information.
Probably were at least demoted
A bit of an overstatement ….. Eh?
Well at least he got the pictures he wanted lmao
Why does this channel show the plane being filthy and spewing black smoke? Not realistic.
The Mother of All Bounce Landing reason not to.
Captain should have been fired!
Time to look for a new job boys...your fired..
Yep pack your baggies
Captain should be sacked full stop the co pilot shouldve discplined for notsayingno were not alliwed or naking sure ehole thing on vlack box
looks like a clown crew!
Unarguably very unprofessional at the least
Yes . . . A computer generated disaster.
Whatever.
No. wonder there was a problem. The word Jazz is hot and they tried flying in the cold blue sky. (The word Jazz also reminds me of gingivitis in your gums.)
Should a Co-Pilot not be competent enough to land the aircraft on his own? After all, that is one of the reasons for a second pilot, as a backup if the Captain becomes incapacitated. But then again, it is Air Canada. Why should we expect more!
Hope the pictures were worth the millions of dollars in destroyed airplane.
The second pilot, it’s not particularly a backup of the captain becomes incapacitated. He is the senior pilot, both pilots, fly sectors, and the other pilot, not flying, manages, radios, manipulate suit and controls and other stuff, so either pilot is able to operate on their own in an emergency.
Photos for the gram to impress the ladies
Taxi to the Gate 8911. 🤣
Disastrous..... really?
This MF cant hold a sweet spot to touchdown im stayin outlaw and isolated with my skills
Hope they got canned! Makes the flying public a little safer...............................I think?
try to improve your landing skills on tour flightsim
Not even close to disastrous
These videos look fake to me
I’d say that given the failure of the landing gear, that was a helluva landing. Exemplary skills by the pilot, co-pilot and crew.
Scary as hell for the passengers? Of course. Disaster? Get over yourself.
Exemplary skill ??? Really ?? I don't think you payed attention to the facts of the accident.
@@jetdriverp Glad you weren’t flying the plane, princess.
@@jetdriverp You may be right about me not “paying attention to the facts.” I saw JAZZ, and instantly wrote it off as a matter of shabby maintenance. (Sad, since Air Canada used to be a premier airline.). But, there’s NO getting over me. They all try… and fail.
Rubbernecking
I feel sorry for the poor plane.
Click bait! Just super hard landing
weak airplane
What’s the purpose of making fake videos like this?
cgi crap
FAKE VIDEO. WHAT CRAP.
Bullshit sim
I hope they fired that captain!!
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