Modern Art and the Decline of Civilization
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In this video we explore why modern art seems to suggest that modern civilization is suffering from a spiritual sickness - a deep existential loneliness, an eruption of the demonic, a negation of human nature and a fragmentation of the human form, a celebration of chaos - and thus perhaps, even a “sickness unto death”.
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NEED MORE KIERKEGAARD!
NEED MORE JUNG!!!
The infinite cold and random cosmos makes no promise of knowledge or reason for being, the christian/religious world view is being abandoned for something better and it would seem we are in a transitional state of understanding the human condition and without christianity or other religions we have the power of the mind and ideas which we need to make stronger and your channel helps do this.
Merchants sell their souls and then the souls of all others whom would do business with them. There is a race of men who have been dominant among the merchant class, whom according to many censors must not be named, for fear of a repeat of fictional depopulation they claimed to have experienced.
Mr Green . . . It makes me angry that you think that’s what’s better for humanity and don’t acknowledge that man is still self-destructive both interiorly and externally, and no amount of mindfulness will bring the majority of man out of it unless they feel truly in danger of losing the afterlife, not to mention the mass amount of supernatural witness of a world beyond our own.
This video really depics what the youth is currently feeling like. Well done.
Aziz Al Rashid for the past 200 years
True ❤
Society uses art to control the sheep as another alternative way to control that's the problem people facing right now
@Squishy Potato generalization is a stupid move man in every generation this shit went through with humans one way or another religion never healed anyone instead this idea made humans delusional and nothing else but in future even though it's evident in present technology and science will do to the humans exactly what religion did back in the old days
You guys should read the decline of the West by Oswald spengler, my brain got half blown with it, also check the degenerate hypothesis of Ray lankaster
Always love the artwork in your videos. Great combo of visuals and narration.
Same as that! Often get frustrated when I don't recognise the piece though as they aren't named.
It’s def the strong point of this channel
@@sjsilva4485 Take a screenshot and google it
@@sjsilva4485 they list the pieces on their website, follow the link in the description!
yeah, whoever makes these videos knows their stuff
I am a trained musician and painter and unless I paint or play something dark and sinister, it does not sell. I decided to make money in another area and preserve the purity of my art for the few who appreciate it. We are in The Cultural Dark Ages.
So true!!! Not just in the arts, but also in every facet of our life today! We don’t realise it, but our grandchildren will!
That is what I was thinking, watching this video. The description there of modern art, is of the modern art that would sell well. It is the audience that is this way, not the artists.
And the art that I mostly like, always has very little views. Except maybe these video's, but there are many mistakes in it.
I comfort myself, with understanding that I am rather individualistic, because of that.
Translation: I am a failed artist!
People will admire inspirational art. People will buy edgey art. Is this true? 🤔
So true. I just play what I wrote and refuse to give an inch.
There is a documentary called "Why beauty matters" by Roger Scruton. If any of you guys want to learn more about this idea. It's one of my favorite docos.
I think it’s on TH-cam
The most meaningful documentary i've seen
Yes! Roger Scruton is excellent. And it is on TH-cam.
i like the way he explains why beauty is important in infrastructure before it was beautiful now they push for efficiency but what the purpose of efficiency if its not beautiful ...
ahah, thanks because right before watching this video, I put the documentary in my "watch later" list
Man, it's freakish how this channel puts out exactly the videos that I need to see exactly when I need to see them... Perhaps the Spirit is truly stirring in the deep!
@James Guyto me,we are better off living by a code we all basically follow ,then to have no code at all or one that is always changing.
James Guy this video puts much of that into words that has bothered me lately.
What do you call a conclusion at which individuals all over the world arrive independently?
Frightening thought.
Thank God I'm somewhat religious, so I can sleep easily at night.
@@erikbecker1957 right on Eric,we can hope this crazy phase passes.
There is no such thing as coincidence.
@@adamf.4823 agree
Great work, but I'm not surprised. You don't upload every Saturday but when you do it is always enough to feed the mind for weeks
Reevaluating the values of man:
1. Highest honor of societal recognition is given to those that create or allow the next generation opportunities or improve the quality of necessities for survival (not provide more entertainment, leisure, lowering quality standards)
2. Celebrities and athletes return to being celebrities and athletes....the lockdown exposed how boring and attention starved they are. A basketball player’s thoughts on mental illness shouldn’t be seen as superior to a licensed Psychologist’s.
3. Regardless if you agree with the reasons for a certain war, respect the bravery it takes to be a soldier and the mentality of understanding what it means to believe in something greater than yourself
4. Humans will never not be able to shame other people, so if they must, how about people that pull out there phone after someone answers a question they asked?
5. Stop looking to politicians or CEOs to be your “daddy” and take pride in being self sufficient through cutting down leisure / fruitless past times, and prize craftsmanship / developing useful skill instead. Many great works and craft come from disturbed people, stop shutting their product down or downplaying g the quality of it because they don’t recycle or don’t hold doors for people. If you look to them to teach you about virtue and morals, you were probably raised poorly and in that case you should be researching materials to make sure you do a better job raising your offspring.
6. For men especially, no more whining about things they have no solution to or intend on seeking a solution too, it’s pathetic
7. MGTOW isn’t something to be proud of, especially if you’re a virgin by circumstance not choice. Reproduction is the most natural / core of human under the animal kingdom...either take big action to increase your value or adjust your standards and expectations to a realistic level.
Just a few I think are worthy of discussion, and as always, will admit when I’m wrong with a great counter argument and solid reasoning.
Been researching this topic ie. modern value system of men for a year straight for the book I’m writing on this subject, so curious to hear what you would add.
What jumps out at you? Anything specific about today’s men that you think needs a serious do-over / change?
Has the book you're writing been published?
Couldn’t agree more with those points. Is the book coming soon?
I mean... the first two suggestions were fine, but then you went completely off track
Red Pill moment
I found this channel a few months months ago it literally saved my life I'm a completely different person and I love it.
Although I very much appreciate and respect your videos I have to add that modern art was not just merely about “moral decay” but a series of reactions against former dominant philosophies, aesthetics, politics... In fact Picasso’s and Matisse’s work were not at all about existential dread, but coming loose from the heaviness and grandeur of Romantics. Also the formal aspect should be considered way more than the philosophical aspect in modern art. I see many people loathing abstract art but it should be considered that it evolved through many formal experiments. You see before the 20th century, it was all about creating the perfect illusion. Whereas modern painters wanted to break this illusion, they wanted the viewers to be aware of watching something 2D. Also it has been used as a protest voice against the violence of war and regime. Fascist and communist regimes said there should be only 1 acceptable style, that is one of realism. To the nazis for example, modern art depicts weak, broken, disfigured people. Whereas in their worldview, people needed to be depicted as strong, beautiful and perfect. Again I love your videos, but I found this one very lacking in context, which ofcourse is impossible to all press into a 12 minute video.
Thanks for putting this video into a bigger context.
This is the first video of this guys I've felt was kinda horseshit. It seems to yearn for the beautiful landscapes of yore but it never mentions the unprecedented impact the camera and photography had on such art. Add to this the fact that there were 2 World Wars in the 20th Century and the fact that much of Ye'Olde Art was commissioned by relatively rich people (or institutions like The Church) to promote some ideal for posterity (big reminder Pre-Photography) and what did you expect?
Besides - a load of fucking dark art from way back when was simply banished to the ash-can of history because it wasn't deemed fitting for a very differing art establishment back then. I bet art would have seemed a lot more multi-faceted in the 18-19th Centuries if they had Deviant Art or whatever dip-shit social media platform anyone can upload a scrawl onto..
Honestly this guy would be more suited to starting with how the Camera affected Art,, then move in to how the Internet's reshaping things.
"Art is a pharmaceutical product for morons" - Picabia
@@notmyrealname9059
I have to agree with much of your comment. I've always thought of modern art as "some edgy shite" that caught on among edgy artists, and some of it more theistic than atheistic. Why would an atheist paint demons tormenting their soul? The Abrahamic religions have a self-debasing element in the "born broken, lost, wretch that needs saving" theme.
@@rondoclark45 "Why would an atheist paint demons tormenting their soul?" Spot on. Protesting too much.
I appreciate your perspective but your emphasis on formal analysis of art completely ignores the comments of observers like Erich Neumann (9:52) who affirmed that an era creates art that mirrors the state of the psyche of that era (as well as the prediction by Nietzsche voiced at the beginning of the video). Surely you are correct in thinking of art as a protest against the chaos of industrialized war, but the 19th Century was also characterized by the anonymity of a person in the newly forming megalopolis, the loss of human connectedness and values of community once provided by agrarian villages, the devaluation of the human soul through the rise of materialistic science and its technological "wonders".
I always intuitively knew that all of this was happening to some extent. I just never knew that two of the greatest thinkers of recent history predicted it. I feel at ease just knowing that it has been articulated in some form prior.
"When a civilization is sick, it is up to individuals to heal themselves and in so doing contribute to the healing of the whole."
The problem with this is(or at least i think): the people doesn't allow a proper healing (between each other) because they are too obsessed with useless technology and futile thoughts , giving values to fake beliefs and wasting time repeating the same words or action that others already took without actually acting as "individual" or thinking with their own mind , without "speaking with their own mouth".
Or they simply ignore everything and they don't face anything regarding their existence or whatsoever , so they live in a state of constant ignorance bliss , without any responsibilities regarding others or their inner-self.
I know , it's a lot of words and probably it's really confusing , i am not a philosopher nor a writer , but i'm so confused with society and people nowadays that is just...hard , everything feels like a huge , empty void and i can't understand if i'm wrong.
I can't even talk to most of the people.
Hi
I've read your comment with attention (and with almost one year late) and I think that your point is relevant.
However, I would argue that the meaningless behaviours and attitudes your are criticizing are more a symptom, a consequence of this "sickness" (not the vrisu XD) which affects the majority of the West and, since that the dominant culture comes from here, the rest of mankind. Without being a fervent supporter of "rechristianization" (or any form of "reconquest" of the lost territories of religion in Man's spiritual life), I think that abandoning these religious values and traditions also translated in a loss of the beneficial effects which where to root one's mind by giving them an explanation on the unexplainable. Once this "mental anchor" gone, facing this immense and chaotic void, a deep disorientation and dread start to emerge (with the we know csq on society and art; that's not a coincidence if this uprooting happened in the West and if it has a high rate of psychic disorder and suicide). Even though the beauty (which is similar to truth and the Good, according to Plato) cannot be totally destroyed by the void, it is still largely drowned by the monstruosity of the void.
Last time I heard a friend whose words where (probably without him knowing it) describing this sickness and he called it "deconstruction" (not in philosophical word but more like a "collapse").
As time only goes in one direction, the remedy cannot be in restauration but in construction (and we're taking part in it, in a good way I think)
Have a nice and hopeful day my friend (and everybody else reading my comment)
EVERYTHING DOES NOT BEGIN WITH THE INDIVIDUAL. The initiation of the individual man of the earth must begin with the obligations of the initiated brotherhood to secure land that us free of tyranny for all therein... and where none who are not devoted to this goal may abide. The agents of tyranny are allied together. Unless you remain likewise amongst yourselves, tyranny will rule the world and a great corruption thereof. It takes a village to raise a child. Everything begins with the obligations of the initiated fraternity, or else the initiation of the individual will most likely go awry. This is the new set of values that can reinstate the dignity and grandeur of the individual.
@@joshualizard9658 I agree with your point but, individually, we have to strengthen ourselves and thrive toward greatnes for a group is great by the people which move it toward the greatness, not because it implies some forms of brotherhood and compassion toward one another. In other words, a sheep is still a sheep even when it enters the herd.
@@pierrewilliam7119 They aren't called Fraternal Obligations because they are kind virtuous things that your brethren will thank you for doing and you can say, "Well I'm much obliged," knowing that they owe you favors and allegiance in return. They are obligatory because if they aren't accomplished, it will all go to ruin. All ot it... your structure, your environment and your life's great work uniting the two. And they are fraternal because they can only be accomplished by everyone working together.
In practical terms, fraternity may be defined as the protection of each by every. For those who spend their life neglecting to help provide such protection whenever it may be needed, it is just a matter of time and progress down that same errant path before they lose all the qualities of a true brother and divorce themselves from the fraternity and thus mankind altogether. This is where tyrants came from to begin with.
The idle spectators o today will become the tyrant monsters of tomorrow. And those who defer their fraternal obligations onto the shoulders of little children are not a source of any ture wisdom.
@@joshualizard9658 The thing is you have to save yourself before you're able to save others. Other people can act like an anchor on you if you're not careful.
Your videos make me feel so many things I become frozen. Thank you for gifting us all with your beautiful work. It truly is pure beauty, and what you produce for the community deserves great respect.
@Calvin Blanchard I think it's on us, individualy to see where we unconsciously figure out our own paths so the next gen can analyze how we process this moment in time. Only some very special people can truly predict with graceful attention and rare insight can take a gamble at throwing out a solution. But hey maybe that's just my 2 sense. What he's don't is more than enough for me to ponder. I assume he puts a lot of thought and effort into recognition and research for these videos and I'm still honored that he keeps uploading for the sake of all of us watching
@Calvin Blanchard it's not like he's a jung or nietzsche for all I know.
@Calvin Blanchard well, I guess non of us have the cure then, better enjoy the ride pardner
Unless you got the cure big guy let us know
@Calvin Blanchard anything I can do to help homeboi, keep on truckin
I’ve felt that the musical style of the baroque era, and Bach in particular, has had a certain kind of relevancy to the modern mind. I say a certain kind mainly because it’s isn’t immediately enticing to immerse yourself in like the many other artists of our time who work to find deeper and darker images of melancholy. Bach presented a prism of gestures and interrelated harmonic dramas that, in an abstract sense, reflects our new culture relationship with technology well. So the concept of that musical style in the context of our time wound seem like a dead vision for an overly optimistic future, but after summoning the attention and care to fully grasp his compositions, you find something you wouldn’t believe and I really think that you need to play it yourself to understand. As the player of one of his keyboard pieces, you get this sudden and profound sense of control. With the stylistic analogy in mind, your seem to transcend your place and time as and individual and become a creator and conductor of the many perfectly arranged musical gestures, so it teaches you to love all of them all like you would your own children and take a perspective far above. Modernity, with its many contradictions and perpetual expressions of confused emotion, arranges itself in a single direction by its individualistic subjects falsely believing in there freedom. It’s truly the highest of realizations in an age that makes us believe that we are at the mercy of an irrational and torturous nature that has no more love for us. So given you have the time and interest to put in the work, music teaches you to become animate like we were meant to be, so I hope there are others out there who discover that with me.
Back then they didn’t always have a choice on what they could paint, art for arts sake wasn’t a common idea
Luis Chavez I agree. We can infer that ancient civilizations were up right and sophisticated but we only see what remains. The Notre Dame Cathedral or the Pyramids are impressive works made by impressive cultures but if you read the graffiti in Pompeii you’ll realize that people haven’t changed that much.
Not to mention the only people buying or commissioning art where nobles and the church.
I'm an atheist but I'm fascinated by religion I've had a renewed respect for religion after listening to Jordan Peterson, but there's no going back to god for me. I'll have to do some further research on the contents of this video. Love it!
I'm adrift, aloof, remarkably numb. I'm impounded, imprisoned, impossibly paranoid. The embodiment of repressed yet flagrant narcissism. Debating my feelings. Dragging my thoughts. Divorcing my memories. Denying my nature. Digesting these facts. Impulsively cynical. Joyless and safe.
Holy shit... that cuts deep.
@@Martin-cp5bb Yes
@@Martin-cp5bb Thank you. I really appreciate that.
mark ryan When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!" (Matthew 27:54)
Just focus your attention on other people, focus on bringing others light, this is the only way out
Thank you for this. I am an artist who still upholds objective beauty and the inherent dignity of the individual. I will be among those who will redeem the art of our times, and in doing so, begin the redemption of our generation and humanity as a whole.
I am an artist also, a Romantic Realist Oil Painter -There are many fine artists- but this art takes time to learn & develop & the talent to create is accomplished by the hard work of learning through doing the work & thereby perfecting ones skills. The latest - most clever & dark is sold as profound while ever degenerating into an evil darkness. Look up "Art School Confidential" - a great movie about this nonsense art.
Christian or not, these are good words to live by; Philippians 4:8 (NIV) 8 "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things.
That final quotation from Jung is a treasure. But over-all, I think this video presents painting as a mere reflection of worldview. Those who are literate visually (that is, mostly painters) are less alarmed by modernism's imagery. The real target here is not Picasso but Warhol. Postmodernism is the end of all standards, the end of meaning in language, and worst of all, the end of truth. Study Picasso carefully and it becomes clear: he is in direct lineage to all the things this video says he lost.
careful man if you keep making insightful videos like this you'll get shadow banned
Leddit
He was in my suggestions. I think you have to have a lot of time to upload post or tweet to trigger the shadowban
So glad you quoted Neumann's "Art and the Creative Unconscious", as it is a foundational and highly underrated text. Also, Jung's quote at the end provided the perfect summation. Great work.
i am happy to read ur comment
A very simplistic piece. The art of many great pre-modern artists is concerned with violence and decay- Titian, Michaelangelo, Rubens, Hogarth....the list is enormous. The dark side of human nature and human society is rightly a subject for art. It can`t all be ¬hero of the soviet union¬ stuff.
As an actual artist and son of an insanely talented artist far better than me. I agree that modern art is because of our growing lack of spirituality; As well as our growing sense of ego, greed, and pretentiousness.
No matter your method of connecting with god or what I call the universal consciousness. It’s good to connect with something bigger than your self but with every push there is a pull. I feel that the next renaissance is right around the corner!
I get this, for sure, but luckily I am 71 years old, reveling in my Wyoming Mountain Woman Life-thanking God and Mother Nature every day that I am alive, thriving, and blessed. My own art reflects this joy.🙋🏼♀️⛰💞❄️
With the death of Christianity the self is no longer repressed. That the free self may belch up some darkness here and there is to be expected. Better than swallowing it down for a better world that never comes. This is just what it means to be a man.
Hear, hear!
Been thinking about the same things for a while now. Thanks for helping me clarify some things with this video.
Same tho, been thinking about this since the end of 2017
If you feel confused i'd recommend lookin at the people behind the cultural changes. Even a dumbass should piece together the picture. You could start from Reinhold Niebuhr(subverting christianity ), Freud (subverting sexuality), Margaret Mead (same, but through "anthropology"), Dennis Kardon (contemporary modern artist), pretty much all the popes. Or look up what and whos books nazis burned.
Is it coincidence that individuals independently make the same conclusions? Or does it make a point?
Pilid' s Does art merely reflect the spirit of the age? Or does it perhaps impel it, too?
If so, can evil art engender evil thoughts and acts?
If so, should we grant free license to all art?
And why is it that we hold art in such high regard? Why do we grant absolute freedom to sth that demands not to serve a purpose?
I felt a strange urge to applause after watching this video.
It was your subconscious speaking to you.
Similar kind of urge but to throw up instead. This video is a pack of lies depending on sheer willful ignorance and cult like programming.
Fascinating stuff! I particularly liked the point by Neumann about how dissonant art represent dissonant behaviour. Unfortunately I do think it'll take generations for us to lift ourselves out of this spiritual slump we find ourselves in but there will be a revival in the future (we can only hope...)
This video is a masterpiece
Interestingly, as I thought about it for a minute, you can also find this effect in modern music. E.g. sampling or looping, there are no entire symphonic works anymore, just bits and pieces of either other people's work or replaying loops (basically melodies of 1-2 or 4 beats in legth, they differ somehow to make it not too repetitive but its basically a re-occuring pattern.
The new wave of underground hip hop for example (cloud rap: like $uicideboys) sometimes keep mixing to a minimum to make it sound more unfinished.
Very interesting!
Agreed, the way that I expressed it was that the actions of the individual is what keeps the fabric of reality together
So good, as always. Your videos really are a tonic in these dark times. Thanks for giving us hope.
The art houses of the rich are a scam and always have been. Stop using them to paint a picture of Art (with a capital A) having degenerated, and deifying a few select works from past ages that are being viewed from a specific lens designed to make them an objective barometer of worthwhile art.
Go out and look at the endless bounty of creative work being made right now by just about everyone, everywhere. The problem is that people are conditioned to look to a few "traditional" institutions typified by large stone buildings with banners hanging from the roof, as their cultural touchstone. And when they find these barren they despair and assume culture is over.
It's understandable that many would make this error, but it is ridiculous all the same.
Just go. Explore. Learn what you can from the past but do not worship it or seek to recreate it, and stop pretending to be old men in togas.
Art houses of the rich are a scam. I love it. They so truly are, and even more now so with post post modern art than times past. I agree there is amazing art being made all around us, not just in dusty museum halls.
Modern art is no longer ruled by the elites in museums. The true modern art is now ruled by the people. Just look online and you will find amazing art... and also sonic feet fetish art.
The internet is everything at once.
@88Gibson LesPaul Who are the "we" that said that? I didn't say it. I'm sure lots of other people didn't say it either.
Memes are the art of today.
A million memes 🤣
Peter Lloyd hmm. Admiral Morrison’s little boy jimmy, could be called elite. Turns out, many of the icons of early rock, were children of US military personnel (Joan Baez the folkie too?).
Nooo, modern art seems to still be ruled by the vacous, money laundering elitists lording their obscurantism over you like you're the ignorant ones.
Thank you so much
I feel relieved and refreshed at the same time watching this content!
*Art - consuming wisdom of ages, without being present with the creator*
A real time travel.
How are you at every video I watch
@@hydrocarbon2195 you too
@@michaeloluokun9488 😂😂😂
Beautiful concept and original thought.
Thanks for sharing it.
Hi 😁 made you look
When the only businesses buying art in town are wealthy lords, ladies and the church they tend to pay for pretty and dignified installations. They also tend to be preserved in castles, manors, and cathedrals.
The animation style of Monty Python and the Holy Grail were inspired by actual doodles of monks in old books.
The city of Pompeii was well preserved and so was its graffiti. The vandalism ranged from “Gaius was here” to, “I screwed the barmaid” to “go hang yourself” all the way to “Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!”.
These feelings aren’t new they’re ancient. Some of the differences are the lack of blasphemy laws, better documentation, and better circulation. If western civilization disappeared for 700 years the best preserved art would be (and in) the Eiffel Tower, the Statue of Liberty, the Space Needle, the Gherkin, the Empire State Building, the Arc de Triomphe, and the Sydney opera house. Just as it was previously the Notre Dame Cathedral, the any of the castles through out Europe, the greek parthenon, or the Pyramids.
We can assume the values of previous cultures but whatever we assume is based on what’s left not what was.
th-cam.com/video/Q1irNBh2qg8/w-d-xo.html
Grant Lauzon this channel’s goal seems to be rewrite history to reinforce conservative values.
there is some truth to what you are saying but there is also truth to what this dude is saying, I think he over focuses on Christianity and should instead call it loss of three things, a common value system you can expect everyone to follow rather than a bunch of individual ones leading to misunderstanding, a loss of purpose as our jobs get further detached from things we can directly attach to meaning (we used to farm to feed our family now we enter things in a database so we don't end up on food stamps), and the loss of a community the average village size was 150ish people the hunter gatherer groups we lived in for thousands of years were 150 and the number of people you are capable of knowing is 150 yet now we are mostly isolated from those we claim as our perceived tribe and don't have the same tight knit vibe going on . these are the things I have drawn from this and you can tell the problem is real because it is happening in non western cultures as they modernize think east Asia or parts of the Muslim world that are more towards the beginning of the problem... good point tho
@@nateroberts2696 You sound like a modern lefty. Surprised you didn't use any buzzwords.
Modern art is still mainly bought by rich people...
Well put.
Frank Zappa often argued the exact opposite of this video when he was defending freedom of speech in Congress in the 80s. Most songs on the radio were overwhelmingly about love, not hate.
the stories you knit are very powerfull, more than isolated ideas and doctrines. I consider this to be "next level philosophy", thats why i like them so much. I also think philosophy is my calling, i feel powerfull the moment i know i see with clairevoyance, things gain meaning to me, in the meaningless lanscape this diagnosis paints. kudos
So damn good!
Damn the underground.
The narration for these is so damn well-done.
Modern art is certainly more varied, insightful, creative and full of life than the stodgy old religious paintings of the past.
I come from the abyss.
I have conquered and rejected its worthless forms.
I chose the light because it pleases me to subjugate what once held so much power over me.
Civilization is a technical term for the domination of the eye over the over senses. The breakdown of pictorial space and the discovery of the unconscious and the quantum world, brought exciting new opportunities.
by measuring each period in terms of its relation to chaos, you separate these periods from their own inner workings which have their own history and life. art history cannot be boiled down like this and you can make an argument for a moment heading both towards a chaos and towards an order (i.e. movement is order) at once
Yes, things were better back when we had had paintings commissioned by kings and princes, showing how great things were. We know this is true because we have paintings of it
That gave me a hearty chuckle.
this but unironically
you lost the whole point, dude
@@AA-wq5sm up this one
@@awepossum1059 "this but unironically" --- yes right on
we also have propaganda today, and it sucks
if the great cathedrals are just the elites of old blowing their wealth on status symbols, how come our elites fall so far short of that mark? Jeff Bezos just launched himself into orbit on a giant cock --- is this going be in a coffee table book 1000 years from now next to the cathedral at Chartres?
this is a cope to frame the past in a modern, democratized lense (the poor oppressed masses emancipating themselves from their tyrannical lords), and brush the fact that we pale in comparison to our ancestors under the table
I like modern art, it's what we have so I enjoy it, it's fresh and context matters, but you can't be _so_ disillusioned by our time that you don't see past ages produced better art. You need to see that and struggle with it.
TH-cam has no business being this good. Keep it up, I'm a new subscriber :)
Wow. Usually I just listen to these, but the combination of art and commentary is very educational and thought provoking. I am I awe. Thank you as always.
Love, peace and understanding. It's my unbirthday today and this was indeed a present. I love you guys and gals for working so hard and publishing for my eyes to see and my ears to hear and the depth of my being to understand. For art and lovers of philosophy. I don't think I would get this great an education at Yale, Princeton or Harvard. Thank you so much for an Ivy league education that I can afford
Art pre 20th century was often commissioned by rich people who wanted to glamorize their abundant lifestyles and possessions. It was never an accurate portrayal of the normal human condition.
What if these new representations of the human are not symptoms of an illness, but expressions of honesty? What if we have always been fragmented, chaotic, broken, but have failed to recognize the extent of our condition? Are these images a catalogue of disease, or a celebration of what we truly are, without the crippling illusions of religious belief? Why should we despair, if our previous hopes were nothing more than consolatory lies, and we have begun to outgrow them?
Yet we are living in the best age as far as human comfort, people are buying into this because Happiness is a Choice, Your Choice! Karl Marks, "My goal is,to dethrone God, and destroy the nuclear family in western culture." th-cam.com/video/4h_iC-UOCCc/w-d-xo.html .Philippians 4:8 (NIV) 8 "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things. "
You choose tear down society and be very unhappy but arrogant in your beliefs or choose to look at the beautiful in life and be grateful for that life and have a desire to help other people find happiness and comfort.
Aleada Siragusa that’s so true
Good point
Only a being that is insane would “celebrate” pain and darkness. In truth, it’s not possible.
And who is to say that religious belief is “crippling.” That statement is an exact expression of what Nietzsche was talking about and what this video is addressing.
You always upload content I truly needed to see. The art works are amazing and so well contestualized. One of my favourite TH-cam channel for sure!
One of the very best channels on YT
Brilliant! I see Jordan Peterson is an inspiration. He quotes the same people.
No the people quoted are the inspiration for both.
Peterson is a snowflake himself.
Oh god, I should have known --- Peterson. Of course.
I almost feel it would be better for society to believe in a religion even if it is a lie rather than be condemned to the hopelessness and depression of a dark godless world
This is a false dichotomy. There are, I think it can be shown, deeper truths about the human condition found at the core of many spiritual systems ( think something like "Perennial Philosophy"). The trick is to give philosophy and spiritual practice (broadly speaking) greater import within the culture.
I ,for one, have zero interest in western culture going back solely to the stifling, solipsistic monoculture that is Christianity. Jesus, so to speak, is welcome to have a seat at the table; but he's going to have to share those quarters with Nietzsche, Locke, Aristotle, Buddha, Darwin, Heisenberg, etc.
An amazing encapsulation of the sickness of the Age, of Modernity, even Post-Modernity and in only 12+ minutes. Your closing, finding a ray of optimism, is also appropriate. Of course, calling for what needs to happen still awaits a host of individuals achieving this renewal of values. We live in interesting, if possibly deadly times.
This channel, I just give a thumbs up before I even watch the video.
Great ideas and a great video. I'm almost certain this dude is an artist himself.
His cultivation of his own mind and his showcasing how we could do so is, in itself, a work of art. I seriously admire his ability to button up all these insights into concise videos. There is no channel on youtube with more replayability value in my opinion. I wish I knew him in person so I could shake his hand and ask him about his study habits
So many people mistaking modern art for contemporary art is simply painful to see
Maybe you could enlighten us.
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I'll gladly do it, my friend
Modern art refers to art created between the late 19th century and around half of the 20th century. It is considered to be started by Édouard Manet and it was called "modern" because it didn't rely on what was previously taught at the traditional art academies, it was groundbreaking for its time. Think Monet, Picasso, Renoir or Van Gogh, they were modernists.
Now, contemporary art is everything made thereafter and still created today, they thought beauty was no longer necessary in art and that it was all about the concept, and that's how we got blank canvases sold for millions, because now it all resides in the underlying concept (utter nonsense, if you ask me)
So, next time someone says "modern art is shit" kindly remind them it is likely they are actually referring to contemporary art
You tell it like it is but always offer hope. I like that.
I don't think it's "degenerate" or in any way wrong that art has become more chaotic. If anything, art these days is more honest, more true to itself. Art in the past was limited to the highly educated and placed under strict guidelines, most of it had to be religious or otherwise romanticized. The human psyche has surely not changed so much, only now it is more self-aware. Those in the past who were self-aware and who tried to express themselves honestly were often labelled blasphemers or witches/warlocks and burned or murdered.
This seems very one sided. I personally like Carl Jung's take on Modern Art. Art simply represents the spirit of the age, nothing to do with "Decline of Civilization" whatever that means. Man's understanding of himself changes and so does his art, if one can grasp his own unconscious then one can see "modern art" for what it is...
I think he is referring to the ideal man of the past vs the emotionaly candid expression of modern art. In fashion school, the more thought provoking, the better. Wherever that goes. The Academy always imply to be the better man in contrast with the zeitgeist. Man must choose to be better but how to be at least good enough? They say just be yourself, be original, explore or be different. But did we just end up being bizarre? How are we going to appreciate who we are now?
Too few see art, so it is hard to connect it as an influence on society. Garbage middens reflect the "spirit of the age", but artists are necessarily more independent and less repetitive. Art and Civilization evolve on creativity and selection. We Decline only without them.
A poem from a Bar/Brothel of Innulus and Papilio in Pompeii.
Ahem
Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!
Classic art often looks noble and sophisticated because it was commissioned by Nobles and churches. They’re the ones who’s houses stand and who’s art is passed down through their generations.
Any thoughts days will be the same as an endless number of three days..yours or others
Yeah, trash
When your life is extremely meaningful, you don't keep asking the question "What's the meaning of life?". The meaning is self-evident. That's what every nihilistic individual needs to strive for. Find the reason to live!
Exactly. Whoever think that there's "no meaning of life" are just wasting away their short lives, thinking that the meaning of life is something that is presented to oneself in a golden plate, it's not.
I remember a few months ago a 17 year old classmate of mine was talking about how pointless life was. This was quite interesting to me as he was one of the most energetic and generally liked people in our class. When I apposed his view, the people around acted as if I had said something revolutionary and gravitated toward me in an unusual way. I wanted to tell him that there was more to be seen, explored and experienced than he was currently aware of but I couldn't find the words, his side of the debate was easier to stand behind; a sign of its flaw.
I suppose art is the expression of exploration.
That was quite enlightening, thank you for the video
I'm living in the wrong era ! I wonder how many people feel the same way ?
same here, but having a channel like this on youtube makes it more bearable...
By all means, go to Saudi Arabia where you can live out your authoritarian and theocratic fantasy.
Yo
someone needs to watch Midnight in Paris
i am curious about one subject. You talk generally about the modern world and how the atheistic view has caused all sorts of chaos and confusion. However would you be willing to explore the ideas of the people who still uphold the christian ethos?
Second that
I mean, they really dont. Look at what we consider a moderate Christian- someone who accepts the metaphorical interpretation of the bible and lacks the extreme spiritual passion that led to witch burnings, scientific denial, and wholesale slaughter of certain cultures. Those who are presently considered extremist Christians simply deny scientific evidence that contradicts their worldview. They do not have the spiritual passion that Christians historically had.
Compare that to Islam and its followers, where even moderate muslims will deny scientific evidence while the extremists still have the spiritual passion that leads to murder of their "enemy". Why the difference between the two religions? Simple- the atheistic/secular worldview has dominated western society and has only begun to invade the middle east. It has forced the hand of old spiritual systems to become more secular in their view of the world.
This is not to say everything regarding old school spiritual systems is flawed. But it is to say that no one in the west believes in religion like they use to, and that's directly related to the amount of scientific inquiry that has been historically present.
You don't need religion to explore spirituality. People are able to connect with nature and it's intelligence with no dieties involved. Meditating and exploring your inner world via lucid dreaming and also exploring the astral world is a way to explore spirituality. I do believe there are higher conscious beings and humans are able to meet them but there are steps before that happens. We're conscious in the 3rd dimension and there are also conscious beings in the lower and higher dimensions that some humans have already been in contact with.
Reason I don't believe in any gods is because when you do, you don't know what/who your messing with. Why pray or give energy to an entity you know nothing about and whether it has good/indifferent/bad intentions with you.
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thats true. But still they do negotiate the world differently than an atheist so that would be an interesting subject. Also another video for this channel could do is how the western churches dedication to reason caused the society around it to become more secular and how they could negotiate that better in the modern world.
...both Carl Jung and Oswald Spengler put forward exactly what the narrator also mentioned...it is a lacking of Spirit...or a spiritual sickness that modern man suffers...and Art ALWAYS leads us...forward... this video is SO spot on and Well...done...
The way to be spiritual is to take good care of my glorious temple.
The way to be religious is to take care of my temple every day-
Day in,
Day out,
Until I die.
The death of the ego is the awaken of the soul.
O my soul
Remember past striving:
I am that which wants to master congfu.
Quite an interesting timing. I just finished reading Brave New World and makes me think whether we should go all in on indulging ourselves in the pleasures of society, or if it's still possible to find a middle way.
He actually did a video on Brave New World
I finished BNW recently too. Working on Huxley's *The Genius and the Goddess* and I barely had time to put it down to respond to your comment. I'll admit first hand that hedonism has been the greatest restriction on the quality of my life and that the middle way is the blessed way.
@@northstar92 thank you for your comment. I'll check out his other books too then!
@@GS42SCHOPAWE Just found it. Thanks a lot!
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I wouldn't agree with this idea that there's a decay we can observe through contemporary art, this is a rather narrow view and doesn't account for what all the movements of the 20th century brought up philosophically. Especially when we consider that certain movements valuing the grotesque like Dada were a reaction to the atrocities of a world brought into chaos by a lack of meaning.
I'd be more of the opinion that Nietzsche would have supported a lot of contemporary movements. After all, those who proned that civilization was sick and that it needed to be revitalized with a clear model of beauty were most often the totalitarian regimes who denied anything that was daring in art with this same pretext that it was sickly.
Exactly right you are. Thanks.
This is the most accurate description of what ails Westerners that I have come across. Now we can move on to the solution.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...indeed.
Human feces on canvas mixed with blood greatly expresses our world,but expression of emotions can never explain or alleviate the human condition.
Seeking knowledge and understanding all things is impossible and we must be satisfied not knowing.
Yes Art is a prism through which the culture reveals itself (its soul). And yes romanticism is the original critique of enlightenment science. But instead of a return to nature or political reform , as romanticism urged, the prevailing trend over the past two centuries has been an exhaustive and exhausted retreat to the self. Freud thought (with Goethe) that this was itself a sickness that needed to be healed by a complete rejection of (inward-looking) religion and embrace of science (and nature). However Freud's disciple-dissenters Alfred Adler, CG Jung and Otto Rank all saw (with Nietzsche and Kierkegaard) that science and rationality are not enough. That said, I think it may be time to turn away from Jung's preoccupation with the inner life. For me anyway, Adler and Rank point us in a wiser direction; the former toward social concern and the latter (whom I believe May was much influenced by) toward creativity. And I would add it is high time we jettison the medical metaphor of 'healing', as it is itself 'disabling' (as Illich observed), and bring back the also tired, yet accurate (Aristotelian) concept of human development.
Jeff Heller, good comment!
My whole body is tingling with goosebumps.
This is the realisation to will individuals towards truth.
Wow what a video, if every human on this earth watched this video and understood it I wonder in what direction our world would go in...
This video merely summarizes mankind's dilemma. The world will change dramatically once the ANSWER to that dilemma is understood....as it IS understood and spelled out comprehensively in my work, which you will find if you are interested....
Brainwashed if you're any indication.
Masterful, masterful work. I revisit this piece occasionally and find it a powerful source of inspiration as the Kali Yuga manifests around us.
Fun fact: there was actually a wildly popular Nazi art exhibition back in 1937 that kinda resonates with the key premise that drives your video: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_Art_Exhibition
I know the connection here is tenuous at best, but so is the premise of your video, showing mind-boggling ignorance of art history. Kinda liked that big Jung quote at the end there though, well put. Cheers!
Yeah man, this guy and Jordan Peterson are doing a great job of spreading the cultural right's myths about the Downfall of Society. :(
I feel you are mistaking the overwrought emptiness of the highbrow art scene with the art actually being produced. Comics, television shows, movies, etc, are where the actual art is to be found. The art that people want and will pay for, instead of the empty frames of the self anointed.
For me this new value is circus arts. Practicing these disciplines has given me new life. Unicycling and Juggling heal the soul!
wierd flex, but cycle on
...and I walked uphill to school both ways in a blizzard, every day....
Can you do more art commentaries? I think these are GREAT
I agree.
We are witnessing the last breaths of a dying civilization..
It starts with you. Civilization dies if you let it. I enjoyed seeing Jung's quote about how it starts with the individual in terms of change, not on a personal level necessarily, but a global one, since it is something I've told myself for years now. We must combat this pessimism and materialism with good and strong character, religious or not.
I witness the chance of a rebirth. Too many people in too many important places care about this, including me. I am an artist who dreams, lives, and thrives on the knowledge that I can do my part to reinforce the principles of western civilization through my work.
@@user-zg1lj9vc3r A great comment; unfortunately those with a faulty moral compass are often running the show: a social dominance drive being their strong suit, possibly their only suit! A dodgy moral compass which seemingly goes hand in hand with the low emotional intelligence of herd mentality and those who like to herd the herd, a sense of entitlement (usually to what someone else has worked for), and a sanctimonious donkey masquerading as a high horse! It's not difficult for the herd to turn a flourishing country into a Venezuela!
For every birth you have a death. And for every death you have a rebirth. In fact, you can't have a rebirth without a death. Let our sickness run its course until it's completion of death. Let us embrace our rebirth.
If we must be the cells that heal the body, what cells would that be?
You guys are the best. Thank you for clarifying life through this artistic way
Great topic. I really appreciate how you guys always bring it me to self-actualisation~
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TH-cam unsubscribed me from your channel... and that means your videos are even more significant to me now ;)
Wow this blew my mind! My favorite video of yours thus far. Would love for you to make a whole series that goes in depth into each epoch of art, and relating it even further to the thinking of psychologists and philosophers as you have in this video.
Edit: Just became a member!
We are in such fragmented, lonely times. You approached the relativeness perfectly.
like always, btw did you read the book First and last freedom- J.Khrisnamurti ??
@@user-jd1hy9bg1d No, but heard great things.
@@landryprichard6778 READ IT !
What about asian art and architecture hmmmmmmm????
Channel is mostly about Western Civilization and ideas if you haven't noticed...
@@MrNadDino Such as?
Ever considered a video on cosmic horror?
I second this! There are some DEEP philosophical and psychological implications with this genre of literature. Lovecraft basically took Nietzsche's "God is dead" and turned it into "God is a monster." Really interesting stuff.
Videos like this are helping me to understand things I have been thinking and feeling for some time now; things I can not seem to forget about.
Why does it seem to me that seemingly so few people understand that there is a difference between science (observation and experiment) and extrapolation (statistically guessing like many of our current science "theories" admit to doing)? This video is sublime in that it helps to capture the difference of changing worldviews to the human psyche. Thanks for the great insight!!
I just recently finished a project of looking at (at least the title pages many times more) about 200,000 books published before 1923. I also have tried to devour and understand libraries (and mentors that bore masterful results in their discipline) as much as possible for ten years according to results in knowledge (what bears the best results) and have rejected extrapolation as certain truth and to look where only concrete knowledge leads.
This video only supports my idea even more. That it seems like knowledge when looking at results and concrete things points to the fact that evil seems like it is very very largely planned to incredible details across all of knowledge, but it doesn't make sense that humans could plan it. Hence the ridicule of "conspiracy theorists." It took me ten years of searching to find what I believe I just realized two days ago.
I have books and websites to write for this to show people how what I am about to say can be supported in all knowledge with a little more work. The reason that evil looks like it is planned but couldn't be planned by humans is because it is planned but it isn't planned by humans. To every degree of probability I can see, it is planned by Lucifer and demons who influence humans. Everything beyond comprehension points to the Christians being right, and so much of the evidence is being hidden, I think by one of Satan's number one tools. Extrapolation. He seems to be able to mess with people's minds and cause them to believe illusions.
2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 New International Version (NIV)
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
I started watching you about 2014 and you were so good, its really disappointing to see you using common talking points along the lines of "degenerate art". I get it, modernity is scary. This doesn't mean you should retreat into pure reactionary thought.
Exactly, thanks.
"Nietzsche is Dead." - God
Brilliant. Level up.
I love this channel so much
Thank you so much for linking the gallery, your videos always feature the best artwork.
Great video, how do you manage to cover such a wide range of topics? literature philosophy and even art!
It would be very helpful to know it, being able to look for this kind of content in my free time could make my time a lot more meaningful and interesting.
Do one about modern architecture. It's way way worse.
Precisely what I've been thinking. Modernist architecture is an assault on the spirit. You can't even tell whether a building is from NYC or Paris, Dubai or Hongkong. Complete loss of identity and authenticity.
Interestingly it's not even the minimalism that's at fault.
Japanese design has a tradition of minimalism but it still retains identity.
Design theorist and architect Christopher Alexander's writings seem interesting.
Remember how beatiful greek and roman architecture was? Its because architects still sticked with rules of proportions specifically the golden ratio and maybe if people come back to moral teachings and golden rule and try to love each other more and be less selfish and more altruistic - things get better.
I vote for this too. Things to talk about:
- One apartment building looks like another (No architectural ties to the actual city)
- Cheap materials and workmanship (stick framing which leads to fires)
- The banal replacing ornate designs
- The absence of pillars, stone, and brick
Thank you for this. I'll be ruminating on the material for months to come.
Was firstly skeptical to read such a correlative title... but... it kind of makes sense. But then in civil deviations do we begin to tread a fine line between authoritarianism and acceptance of what is permitted in a civilisation. What’s right what’s the alternative if there is...