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"For too long we have been dreaming a dream from which we are now waking up: the dream that if we just improve the socioeconomic situation of people, everything will be okay, people will become happy. The truth is that as the struggle for survival has subsided, the question has emerged: survival for what? Ever more people today have the means to live, but no meaning to live for." Vicker Frankl best quote..
+Jared Fontaine I like that quote! Perhaps modern human society can become more civilized for peace and harmony and maybe end up like a technologically advanced federation...or start the war trains and evolve society towards a state of never ending war like George Orwell's 1984. Although in my honest opinion, there's a good chance the human race will end up destroying itself before it can achieve social harmony. Basically it's either make it or break it, because if social harmony is not achieved then 1984 society is inevitable in my opinion.
Jackboy019 I used to think prophetic art like 1984 was some sort of predictive programming Manuel(which it is) but from what I see now is that we are already living 1984 for a while now... and in terms of visions of the future everything is up in the air... and not clearly defined in out cum.. with that being said if annihilation of humanity and the universe, etc ... will not actually Die... but create an adapted multi cultural new “system” that will fully castrate humanity from any possible sense of who they are... with all the available knowledge and technology “the system” has created a perfect yellow Brick road of its own evolution and timeline and an invitation and welcoming of every single human being to be indoctrinated into it, that because they have fully disclosed the fraud by hiding it in plane sight and using our actual lives as players in its game(tourism) that we have given our consent and permission without the system ever needing to ask for it. The system will not be at the will of any man, since he has none! We will truly be the walking dead... except more hygienic and better dressed lol
I find my madness a comfort because I knew the truth now I have felt it suffering from a grief that man felt almost mute to the world we have today. Romance of writing on paper.smell of ink and candles.im awe of his for sight, 🤪couldn’t do this though
I mean... Early on, Nietzsche described nihilism as being agony. Seems to have more cons than pros, mostly because Christianity also carries the belief of free will, which appears to be the biggest argument as to why nihilism is "enlightenment."
'Sorrow is knowledge, they who know the most must mourn the deepest o'er the fatal truth, the tree of knowledge is not that of life'......Genesis 3:13 "What is this that you have done?"
I have adopted the atheistic view after trial and error, i.e praying to the Hebrew/Greek god, trying to demonstrate my faith, but I simply came up short time after time, but I do not think life is meaningless, maybe some people would consider me a pantheist, but I enjoy nature, and this world i believe is a living, (so to speak)breathing thing. I have only one "go around" and I will definitely make it worthwhile enjoying time with close ones and being content with the little things in life. Since I took this view I am starting to appreciate this time here a bit more than when I was a theist.
5:16 'Ever more people have the means to live, but no meaning to live for.' ... and visiting a church once a week for sermons to brainwash the people into a belief of immortal paradise ... that is meaning to live for.
I find the comments here just as mentally rewarding as the lecture its self! Wonderful source of knowledge for people to indulge in instead of the massive social sites which are nothing more then a waste of time to keep them in a false reality, as good little sheep in the confines of the fold.
Entertaining ourselves to death, with cat videos, Hellywood fiction and submerged in an anti social media. It truly is garbage in, garbage out. Check Out Manly Hall's "Junk Ideas" Lecture.
@@BobBarkerHeretictoScientism Yes, I'm 70 and since 1969 I have been studying Manly Hall's work as well as several other educators and lecturers, and threw out my TV in 1981 and haven't watched it since!
I've noticed thinkers like Nietzsche, left behind great ideas when he died. Therefore those ideas were his meaning all along, and his ideas live on and continue to inspire. Therefore making Nietzsche a icon of human potential. We all possess a gift, like Nietzsche's gift. A gift of perspective and unlimited insight. This is the very tool we use to find our meaning in life. When we die, we are gone, no longer a part of this Earthly plain. However we can create something so inspiring, and universal... That our ideas can live on even after we are dead and gone like Nietzsche's ideas are. In conclusion the meaning of life, is to find your gift and give it to the world, in hopes to inspire people to give life to this world full of death. We are born into this world without a say, screaming in the blood of our mother, however we have the potential to redeem ourselves through finding our gift and doing our best to inspire people to do the same. A revolution is coming in this earth. It will bond everything as one. our power as a race, each and every one of our brains contains a gift a idea that can shift human consciousness into something better than what we are going through right now. So I encourage every one of you to find your gift and be obsessed with it, because when you die, your possessions won't mean a damn thing, but what will mean something is what you left behind, your legacy, your passion.
Nothing really matters. You put your own meaning on everyth same as Nietzsche or any other philosopher. If you enjoy his teachings and put yiur own value on them thats on you. No one has to agree to anything
The last part of your statement is egoistic.. do it even it wont gives you a legacy.. only the ego want something special.. do it because it is just is..
Life is meaningless; however, it does have purpose: intrinsic to its own "beingness" taking the form of a relatively "absolute" manifestation called life. If it can be empirically proved that death isn't absolute annihilation, then nihilism must effectively collapse. There is abundant proof: hypnotherapy, remote viewing, and testimonies of 4 and 5 yo kids who can *still* psychically see (and yet haven't lost their seeing with the otherwise typical loss of such with the advent of learning a language and tuning into a given culture) describing for example what someone they knew in family looked like and who just died whereupon the day after the adult finds out it's true. Suffering is just as persistent as any other experience in the range of the human pathos. It will forever be a *vital* part of life. The right understanding of the Hindu Vedas (Advaita Vedanta), the teachings of Buddha and later, Nagarjuna, Tibetan Dzogchen, and Taoism, all realize that the Two Worlds described here are utterly integrated---the one finds it's counterpart in the other. Any idyllic world notion is oxymoronic, since perfection would become colossally boring. As Leibniz said, "This is the most perfect of all worlds." (perfect in its Blend of perfection/imperfection.) Now, there is no way I can be absolutely certain about the above. The only thing I can be absolutely certain about is that I can't be absolutely certain about *anything* . However I'm confident enough to state that I'm probably on the right track.
myownworstenemy You can kill nihilism and I would thank you for it, too bad that pretty much all of the psychics were proven to be fakes. Also, how does the good and evil balance out exactly? Some people have easy lives (most women for example), while others suffer horribly. Life is made of suffering and injustice, those are the only attributes that are present in everyone's life. Nihilism is very hard to get rid of primarily because it is based on the truth.
And thus Nietzsche's analysis of Truth is paramount to any discussion of old or new or possible truths. He has a great polemic about the VALUE of truth against UN-truth...
Loved this series. Is it possible that you provide the description or just the title of the artworks you use in your videos. They seem very enchanting to me and i would love to know more about them. Thanks
My question that has always been and still is 12:38 that if there is no meaning to life why bother making it fruitful or worthy of living..if we are to end up dead no matter how one chooses to live
The FULL parable of the Madman: Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market-place, and cried incessantly: "I am looking for God! I am looking for God!" As many of those who did not believe in God were standing together there, he excited considerable laughter. Have you lost him, then? said one. Did he lose his way like a child? said another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? or emigrated? Thus they shouted and laughed. The madman sprang into their midst and pierced them with his glances. "Where has God gone?" he cried. "I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto." Here the madman fell silent and again regarded his listeners; and they too were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern to the ground, and it broke and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time has not come yet. The tremendous event is still on its way, still travelling - it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time, the light of the stars requires time, deeds require time even after they are done, before they can be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than the distant stars - and yet they have done it themselves." It has been further related that on that same day the madman entered divers churches and there sang a requiem. Led out and quietened, he is said to have retorted each time: "what are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchres of God?"
About the final part about "contradiction" : Nietzsche was the father of the conception of Agnostic x Atheist. Agnosticism is related to his knowledge (it is possible a "true world could exist" - I don`t know for sure because I have no knowledge of everything). Atheism is related to the "belief" there is a god or not. One is free to express that idea there is no god without the burden of prove it. So, it is faith x knowledge. He probably said that to please his critics that certainly demanded proof of his statements - religious people never cease to burden atheists to prove the negative (claim that the is no god).
I would not want to be alone in a room with Nietzsche... He looks like a really really really crazy person that I would want to be around... he look like he took his life too seriously...too bad...
I admire Nietzsche so much, but i have to disagree with his notion that believing in a true world and a God makes one "lazy" in this life. The whole point of Christianity at it's core is to strive to be a better person because the further down the road, the closer you come to Him
@bob penison I wouldn't call that lazy. Is it lazy if someone works hard to get a promised reward? You could call it selfish if you will but def not lazy
Would you not agree that Western luxury has blinded us from true suffering and unable to overcome suffering many people unfortunately end their lives prematurely as they can not see the bigger picture. That the meaning of life is to grow and we need to suffer to grow. Instead of believing in a God or the idea of the Ubermensch people are hung up on petty problems and pleasure. It is if pleasure and false peace (temporary happiness) is the most important thing.
+Jack Daly while it isn't possible to prove a higher power doesn't exist, when I look at the world I see no requirement for one, nor do I see evidence of one.
Well I’m an atheist but I don’t believe life is meaningless. It just didn’t serve me much to believe in God, I actually felt more depressed and lost. But I understand those who want to believe and that’s totally ok. I personally think that we are responsible for our own purpose and suffering. We often limit ourselves to our potential and I believe the answers are in us to make a difference. There are many people who are successful, happy, moral and believe in the meaning of life without relying on an external force. I do think that people avoid certain things because the idea of a god and afterlife sounds more appealing. A lot of the suffering now is due to our lack of empathy and concern for others. Since we’re a social species we rely on each other for survival. I don’t believe life itself has meaning, but we can create that meaning however we want.
Western mentality is obsessed to get an absolute conclusion to every most difficult question in human life. While on the other hand, in the eastern world of Asia, hunting for ultimate conclusion of human life's purpose is have a different approach which isn't constructing a permanent basis.
Although it is rare for me, I disagree with Nietzsche here. The belief in God gave people meaning, goals, and purpose, not an excuse to ignore these things. I have trouble understanding how Nietzsche could have missed that though, so maybe I'm missing something here...
Speaking of true world and Brahman...I do think that there's something to the idea. If we consider that matter is immensely energetic(E=MC2) and that energy is essentially eternal(Law of Conservation of Energy), it stands to reason that this is all one thing...one field or ocean of energy in which seemingly separate forms arise for a time, but all constituted of the same fundamental material, and all inexorably linked to the whole. So then, how do you reconcile the localized experience of being a separate individual with also being part and parcel with the whole of existence? That's the question that has confounded us for our entire history, which religions seek to assuage, and which the nihilist throw their hands up over. As someone who's spent a considerable amount of time mulling this over, the best conclusion I've mustered is there isn't an answer or final definition, but an endless unfolding that can only be beheld and appreciated. Why are we here? Who knows? What are we really? Who's to say? All we can do is be present and see what happens. Resist the urge to label good or bad, this thing and that thing, but to see one great happening and go WOW, or hallelujah or waheguru or whatever you feel is most closely articulates something beyond definition
Yes, that's it. It's beyond definition. Humans crave an answer and we love simple direct answers but as you say this whole life/existence thing is truly just a happening; nothing more, nothing less and it's all about how you deal with that.. you can become a stage performer and recreate a mini universe or mini reality on a stage and take part in the happening.. or you can become depressed, which I personally think is the childish approach; you didn't get the answer you wanted so you're throwing your bottom lip out to the world etc etc It's all about living with no answer, aka no thing, aka nothing.. how do you live with a nothingness that will eventually consume you and the whole time no matter what questions you ask or scientific methods you implement, the answer will always be . . . Blowin' in the wind, as a Mr Bob Dylan once sang
The death of god was the succession of materialistic true worlders over Christian true worlders. Meaning was not lost but simply shifted focus. Still, materialism and it’s improvement does not fully satisfy and the quest for meaning still carries on.
We are allowed to look at the life of Jesus as both successful and not a success. This is where we can develop our response..that "God is dead we killed him". But if we see that it set the stage for leniency and the scales of justice..of mercy. We can see that it was successful or it would not have had an effect. But we have lost our luster and our motivation for the betterment of humankind from deeper disposition, like the heart or the spirit. We are not destroying the creative spirit, but merely trying to redirect it (look at. Jesus' first sermons on law of man and law of God - matthew 5:17).
I find myself existing purely to exist. I chase hedonistic pleasures until im numb to them. My life has no real meaning besides the meaningless goals i set for myself. But if my goals are meaningless and I will never accomplish anything that those before me have already done why do I even participate? It seems i hold myself to some type of honor code to give my best even when I know the world would still spin if I did not. I find myself craving a good death. Because to me, all that lives on after my demise will be the event itself and my descendants. I wish i could pull a veil over my eyes and be content knowing that people love me or there is a creator who made all of us for a reason but I find myself cynical to any real “meaning of life” and any arrogant enough to claim founding of it with their mortal eyes is a deceiver, the question is whether they seek to deceive others or if they are simply deceiving themselves.
"God is dead" as the concept of true world that gives a sense of meaning to life is declining in Humans, the sense that good deeds will lead one to true world, so one man's conscience is the only thing that keep one man good 🤔
'The Madman' was a short story that grew into 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra'. Nietzsche transferred the death of God speech to Zarathustra because he was 1. the first prophet in the Irani/Aryan tradition, and 2. First Horseman of the Bible (recognised by his bow and the title "Cyrus of Cruses" on his thigh). "Zarathustra was the first to consider the fight of good and evil the very wheel in the machinery of things: the transposition of morality into the metaphysical realm, as a force, cause, and end in itself, is his work. ...To tell the truth and aim straight; that is the first Persian virtue ... that is what Zarathustra means in my mouth." [Ecce Homo - Why I am a Destiny]
Is anybody can tell me who was the great man who sais " the 21st century will be spiritual or it will not be." From my own search of meaning I found answers in Bouddhism and Hindouïsm. The awakening is like to realise that what we call ourself, our EGO, our body our mental (manas) are not what we really are. The consciousness of "I am" is the ultimate state of what I, you, we are.
Actually, mind without faith will lead a person to suffer and s/he will not taste the deliciousness of living.. Look at him this moustache made him unkissable
Things change in this world or give the illusion of going through a cycle or illusion of breaking a cycle, the true world doesn't change. It is the end.
'Creative individuals sculpt own world view' ..just as i was figuring how to word it.... Ways of expressing n interpetsting is communication ...where god is dead. (?) ...
In seeing the horrible effect of nihilism, "as it were," beforehand, why would he ever think (to me, it does not make sense to think:) a world without true world beliefs would be a good thing?
I’m looking for a slide I came across on this page a while back. I’ve been looking through most of this pages videos, the Nietzsche ones and Nihilistic ones. It was a quote by an author Otto. It relayed a story of natives that once they came across colonizers and were shown that there faith was false. It said some laid by a river and died of depression. If anyone knows the author or the book that this is in. Please share if you know anything about this. Please
My opinion on Nietzsche, hasn't changed with this video. He describes the time, when atheism became mainstream. In 1948 however, proof for the "metaphysical" Existence was found, thanks to the birth of the modern state of Israel. He is alive!
I don’t understand the depiction at the end between why it is better to not believe in a true world, it seems backwards to me. If there is a true world then it would seem you should have to prove yourself in some sense to attain it or be granted access to it, but if there is no true world then there is absolutely no reason to do anything as you’re simply in survival autopilot mode and your life and death serve no purpose or meaning. Does someone have a different thought or perspective on this?
When you say Nietzsche "descended into madness," it makes him sound like he actually drove himself crazy to the point where he became a useless sack of meat and shit that noone should strive to be like or study. The truth is, you neglect to mention that he had dementia which was likely a result of syphilis. This man did not "descend into madness." He was just fucking sick and his sickness destroyed his ability to function completely. He was a great man and I am embarrassed by the tone in which you made that false/misleading statement.
Just avoid those religions who tell you you have sinned and needs redemption.Such relgions were created for the oppressed and it gave them the endurance to survive everday slavery.
seems like a man's need for meaning is like a man's need for food. We naturally crave it and will become sickly if we deprive ourselves of it. Crisis of nihilism. I don't know the answers but if our current perception of the world is making us nihilistic and sick, we still have more to learn about the world. I am theistic as a result. If you have something better, let me know.
An open rational discussion: 1) It should be empirically proved that people living in early 20th century (or atheists for that matter) were more nihilistic than people who lived before (there's no comparative study available) for Neitzche's claim to be proved (he assumed he would've been less nihilistic had he been born in a religious age). 2) As far as I can tell, Neitzche may have missed something very fundamental; he understood that theists invented God out of an innate psychological wishful thinking(as Freud pointed out); desire for meaning, in other words (to escape nihilism). So people try to fill this void or live with it's frustration, sometimes resulting in catastrophes. He himself, apparently, was tormented by the search for meaning, until he came up with his super-man theory. Did he ever question if life really needed a purpose at all, to begin with? Should there be an end (goal) to life? Should it amount to something? Why live life with it's sorrows & sufferings only to have nothing to show for it in the end? Maybe this type of thought can be avoided if life isn't suffering; it's fun & joy. Children and teenagers and even some people all throughout their life have fun and enjoy & never stop to ask "What does this all amount to?". So the root of the problem may be that the brain tries to escape the present suffering by creating a Superman/afterlife or a utopian future; it tries to escape the pain it feels by creating hope in the future. A meaning/purpose for life. When that is shattered, then nihilism sets in. Maybe if the brain stayed with the pain & faced it, straight on, not trying to escape it, then maybe something new may arise.
He never believed god was dead he believed The true god will for man was lost in man so for mans sake God was dead in their eyes... Its a metaphorh that everyone takes a little to seriously though remeber what the mad man says after he throws down the Lantern.
God is dead, God remains dead, because he is imaginary. I condemn Christianity; I bring against the Christian Church the most terrible of all accusations that an accuser has ever had in his mouth. It is, to me, the greatest of all imaginable corruptions; it seeks to work the ultimate corruption, the worse possible corruption. The Christian Church has left nothing untouched by its depravity; it has turned every value into worthlessness, and every truth into a lie, and every integrity into baseness of soul.
I nearly fell out of my chair when the narrator comments, "fortunately the spirit of the modern age is different than 1914..." The only thing different in reference to the Stromberg quote is the amplification of the pro-war sentiment. With that said, many don't know or admit their views have been shaped by a universally pro-war msm, to include Democracy Now, and agit-prop Hollywood. I could go on.
Islam is probably the only legacy faith that strikes a delicate balance between this world and the "true world". As the Qur'an states: “Our Lord, give us good in this world and good in the Hereafter”. No extremes like Christianity or even Nietzsche's opposite stance. The heavenly is sought in Islam, but the earthly is not disdained. One of the biggest reasons I am certain Islam is true.
True world theories are also known as "eternal truths". These have existed in mythology all along but slowly the true meaning "esoteric symbolism" died and people became lost. They started worshipping Gods in a superstitious manner but the perspective of God was lost. This "perspective" is a way of looking at God, not God exactly. Thus, people lost the meaning of life and descended to chaos, as there was order and that's one of the reasons why most religions are viewed as "Dogmatic toxic tribals" and partially true as religious institutions should aim at the ultimate eternal truth and should concentrate on uniting people yet they have became the target of institutional corruption and locked into this sad game of toxic tribalism which is malevolent in nature and counter productive, which seems like an endless loop.
Sean O'Rourke by purpose or meaning, do you mean that you seek higher purpose such as something like God or some higher principles? or do you seek purpose as in wanting your work and life to be related to helping others or improving the world in some sense? Please let me know whether it is something else that you have in mind. I think that our past experiences also somehow affect our perception of what we think we should do.
Well ahmed, I feel that in my case at least both intertwine. I have a personal goal which is very deep and seems to imbue life with meaning. However, my deeds ultimately appear to be meaningless when I consider it further. I also think about the impact meaning may have had on classical music and art. The idea of a muse also strikes me as extremely significant. I am a musician, and I feel that this blind abandonment and suspension of logic has utility in certain instances.
As far as my past experiences are concerned. I was raised Catholic. At thirteen I began to question and soon abandon belief in God. Prior to this questioning I was so devoted I wanted to become a priest.
Sean O'Rourke Artists may also depict their take on God or on some philosophical idealism. But I think for living through with one's ordinary life's tasks one does not need to believe for instant that God would ultimately reward them for washing the dishes. I applaud you Sean for breaking out of the social expectations around you. When I mentioned past experiences, what I had in mind is closest to the way in which Nietzsche considers hardship as necessary and as important in shaping who we are. For instance, one may regret not spending enough time in the past with someone who they know they love. So, one would prioritize spending more time with that loved person because he/she regrets the past and not because spending more time now with our loved ones would buy us a ticket to heaven and not even because spending more time now would mean that we are adhering to Kant’s categorical imperative in some way. That’s in short my take on meaning and purpose: routine tasks do not require any higher purpose and our past experiences are relevant to who we are and who we ought to be. p.s. sorry for having you read through all these one's.
I understand nietzsche, but i don't think God is dead. The judeochristian/islamic tradition is outdated for today's world. There just might be a Creator, I personally believe in the Creator, but the thing is, eastern mystical traditions and shamanism has more meaning to the modern man. Taoism and Buddhism isn't about worshiping the Creator, it's about lifting yourself out of misery. And that is practical and useful to the modern man, not the mythology of mesopotamia. That is my view.
Lior Avni I don't entirely agree. Christianity seems to rise and comeback all over the world, it rises in China and comes back in Russia. And in the West there is pentecostalism. I think in the west Christianity will come back after things have gone horribly wrong, for example if Europe is hit with a financial, geopolitical and internal crisis. Which I deem highly likely. Poor, rich, higher or lower educated, Christianity brings meaning, ethics and community. Religion is a human condition and Christianity so far has been the most appealing one.
you think it s good to worship our selves and not our creator cause this is what the media is pushing i personally believe that there is god and that there is also the devil that tries to decieve us
A mind without questions is indeed dead!! An Atheist is one who tries to mute the inner being, thus waisting time trying to justify his/her willingness to ignore palpable truths. Whether owing to a sense of superiority, or drowning empathy, the consequences can not be denied.
I did not dispair, after finally shedding the programming of religion instilled by my parents, as the virus of religion is most often transmitted to children. I laughed my ass off at my foolishness and the absurdity of it all. No different than when I discovered Santa Claus wasn't real either. And am very thankful I got out of the delusion of my imaginary god friend. The universe, the world, as it is, is amazing enough. I don't need an imaginary friend anymore. Nor does that sadden me. I'm going to die. And I'm cool with that. I shall return to same state as before I was born. How incredible I existed, as is, in this only life I have. And even with all the difficulty, misery, and suffering of life, that is plenty. How greedy and ungrateful do you have to be, to think there is an after life??? The real tragedy is to waste this only life we get, thinking in great anticipation there is another better life, which is the true nothing, a desperate imaginary fantasy and delusion of the human mind. It's all just human silliness and laughable. All the while, the universe, this world as it is, is endlessly amazing. And that ain't nothing. It's quite something. And I got to experience it briefly in this life. Incredible. And, that's that. "It's Christmas, it's Christmas in heaven, hip hip, hip hip, hurray!!!!!!!" - last song in the movie Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
I think that Nietzsche was wrong at the end when he said individuals will be better off not believing in a true world. There are a lot of people who believe in the afterlife who do great things in this life, they pursue lofty goals and contribute to the prosperity of the world.
In truth my mom been a Jehovahs Witness her whole life....a life of indoctrination!!!... Door to door Jesus...but "allas" mom took the bait "hook".."line"....and sinker",... Im the black sheep...addiction issues amongst other "ism's".... But ive witnessed"true colors" of family dynamic...and until starting a cult, or an offshoot of mainstream top dog faiths, ...becomes a major criminal act instead of being "tax free".... I guess God gets the tax,....my mom cannot "critically think",... Let alone work a cell phone... I was terrified of Jehovah as a kid!!!!....now im bemused at best.....addiction got nothin on indocrination,!!!... I have highly material successful kin, yet "like sharks", can smell a drop of blood a mile away...( i wonder if thats true?)...( gotta watch thoose "they says")... They care only of "net-worth".... Catch my drift?........😁
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"For too long we have been dreaming a dream from which we are now waking up: the dream that if we just improve the socioeconomic situation of people, everything will be okay, people will become happy. The truth is that as the struggle for survival has subsided, the question has emerged: survival for what? Ever more people today have the means to live, but no meaning to live for." Vicker Frankl best quote..
+Jared Fontaine I like that quote! Perhaps modern human society can become more civilized for peace and harmony and maybe end up like a technologically advanced federation...or start the war trains and evolve society towards a state of never ending war like George Orwell's 1984. Although in my honest opinion, there's a good chance the human race will end up destroying itself before it can achieve social harmony. Basically it's either make it or break it, because if social harmony is not achieved then 1984 society is inevitable in my opinion.
Thank you Jared
Jackboy019 I used to think prophetic art like 1984 was some sort of predictive programming Manuel(which it is) but from what I see now is that we are already living 1984 for a while now... and in terms of visions of the future everything is up in the air... and not clearly defined in out cum.. with that being said if annihilation of humanity and the universe, etc ... will not actually Die... but create an adapted multi cultural new “system” that will fully castrate humanity from any possible sense of who they are... with all the available knowledge and technology “the system” has created a perfect yellow Brick road of its own evolution and timeline and an invitation and welcoming of every single human being to be indoctrinated into it, that because they have fully disclosed the fraud by hiding it in plane sight and using our actual lives as players in its game(tourism) that we have given our consent and permission without the system ever needing to ask for it. The system will not be at the will of any man, since he has none! We will truly be the walking dead... except more hygienic and better dressed lol
Amazing quote, thank you for sharing
I loved that book
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where were you when god die
i was at house reading camus when phone ring
“god is kil”
“no”
Hahahaha thays hilarious
LMAOOO 💀
poetry
RIP club penguin. never forget T_T
I find my madness a comfort because I knew the truth now I have felt it suffering from a grief that man felt almost mute to the world we have today. Romance of writing on paper.smell of ink and candles.im awe of his for sight, 🤪couldn’t do this though
I am fascinated with nihilism but it also makes me sick to my stomach.
Nihilism will also save your life. Just watch.
The MacSo That's not Nihilism. That's Existentialism.
I mean... Early on, Nietzsche described nihilism as being agony. Seems to have more cons than pros, mostly because Christianity also carries the belief of free will, which appears to be the biggest argument as to why nihilism is "enlightenment."
@@ameliajones7836 Christianity is a form of nihilism, the belief in the inauthentic and hollow.
Like a rollercoaster...
'Sorrow is knowledge, they who know the most must mourn the deepest o'er the fatal truth, the tree of knowledge is not that of life'......Genesis 3:13 "What is this that you have done?"
Interesting
U caught that too! Good eye👍
Accidentally deleted god from the heart in a search of finding him... Or a Muslim did, so don't do the same mistake
Thanks bro my final essay is due in 5 hours and it’s on “god is dead”
I should say I have enjoyed Academy of Ideas videos. Jung and Nietzsche have great ideas couched in difficult language and these videos clarify.
doing a great job at making complex subjects accessible to simple men! brilliant channel! thumbs up!
Nihilism and materialism seem to be equivalent terms this century.
The abyss looked back at him.
I have adopted the atheistic view after trial and error, i.e praying to the Hebrew/Greek god, trying to demonstrate my faith, but I simply came up short time after time, but I do not think life is meaningless, maybe some people would consider me a pantheist, but I enjoy nature, and this world i believe is a living, (so to speak)breathing thing. I have only one "go around" and I will definitely make it worthwhile enjoying time with close ones and being content with the little things in life. Since I took this view I am starting to appreciate this time here a bit more than when I was a theist.
tlt 83
I bet you haven't believed hard enough in god. If you believe the shit out of him, he will eventually answer.
tlt 83 I recommend parasitology if you wanna cure your love for nature.
The Great God Pan is dead!
Earth has no consciousness.
Check out Christopher Hitchens
indeed
philosophy is a powerful tool
5:16 'Ever more people have the means to live, but no meaning to live for.' ... and visiting a church once a week for sermons to brainwash the people into a belief of immortal paradise ... that is meaning to live for.
I find the comments here just as mentally rewarding as the lecture its self! Wonderful source of knowledge for people to indulge in instead of the massive social sites which are nothing more then a waste of time to keep them in a false reality, as good little sheep in the confines of the fold.
Entertaining ourselves to death, with cat videos, Hellywood fiction and submerged in an anti social media. It truly is garbage in, garbage out.
Check Out Manly Hall's
"Junk Ideas" Lecture.
@@BobBarkerHeretictoScientism Yes, I'm 70 and since 1969 I have been studying Manly Hall's work as well as several other educators and lecturers, and threw out my TV in 1981 and haven't watched it since!
Actually a very accurate depiction of his perception. Really appreciated/needed this right now.
I've noticed thinkers like Nietzsche, left behind great ideas when he died.
Therefore those ideas were his meaning all along, and his ideas live on and continue to inspire.
Therefore making Nietzsche a icon of human potential.
We all possess a gift, like Nietzsche's gift.
A gift of perspective and unlimited insight.
This is the very tool we use to find our meaning in life.
When we die, we are gone, no longer a part of this Earthly plain.
However we can create something so inspiring, and universal...
That our ideas can live on even after we are dead and gone like Nietzsche's ideas are.
In conclusion the meaning of life, is to find your gift and give it to the world, in hopes to inspire people to give life to this world full of death.
We are born into this world without a say, screaming in the blood of our mother, however we have the potential to redeem ourselves through finding our gift and doing our best to inspire people to do the same.
A revolution is coming in this earth. It will bond everything as one. our power as a race, each and every one of our brains contains a gift a idea that can shift human consciousness into something better than what we are going through right now.
So I encourage every one of you to find your gift and be obsessed with it, because when you die, your possessions won't mean a damn thing, but what will mean something is what you left behind, your legacy, your passion.
Nothing really matters. You put your own meaning on everyth same as Nietzsche or any other philosopher. If you enjoy his teachings and put yiur own value on them thats on you. No one has to agree to anything
@@markdelgado7130 bro, you didnt have to do him like that
Nietzsche would tell you not everyone has the "gift" of Nietzsche. He did not believe in socialism and equality.
The last part of your statement is egoistic.. do it even it wont gives you a legacy.. only the ego want something special.. do it because it is just is..
@@markdelgado7130 not true. Love matters. Remove love, and nothing matters, truly.
Life is meaningless; however, it does have purpose: intrinsic to its own "beingness" taking the form of a relatively "absolute" manifestation called life.
If it can be empirically proved that death isn't absolute annihilation, then nihilism must effectively collapse. There is abundant proof: hypnotherapy, remote viewing, and testimonies of 4 and 5 yo kids who can *still* psychically see (and yet haven't lost their seeing with the otherwise typical loss of such with the advent of learning a language and tuning into a given culture) describing for example what someone they knew in family looked like and who just died whereupon the day after the adult finds out it's true.
Suffering is just as persistent as any other experience in the range of the human pathos. It will forever be a *vital* part of life.
The right understanding of the Hindu Vedas (Advaita Vedanta), the teachings of Buddha and later, Nagarjuna, Tibetan Dzogchen, and Taoism, all realize that the Two Worlds described here are utterly integrated---the one finds it's counterpart in the other.
Any idyllic world notion is oxymoronic, since perfection would become colossally boring. As Leibniz said, "This is the most perfect of all worlds." (perfect in its Blend of perfection/imperfection.)
Now, there is no way I can be absolutely certain about the above. The only thing I can be absolutely certain about is that I can't be absolutely certain about *anything* . However I'm confident enough to state that I'm probably on the right track.
frank xaidam but you didn’t prove that death is the end of the persona
myownworstenemy
You can kill nihilism and I would thank you for it, too bad that pretty much all of the psychics were proven to be fakes. Also, how does the good and evil balance out exactly? Some people have easy lives (most women for example), while others suffer horribly. Life is made of suffering and injustice, those are the only attributes that are present in everyone's life. Nihilism is very hard to get rid of primarily because it is based on the truth.
And thus Nietzsche's analysis of Truth is paramount to any discussion of old or new or possible truths.
He has a great polemic about the VALUE of truth against UN-truth...
Straight fire lecture!
Loved this series. Is it possible that you provide the description or just the title of the artworks you use in your videos. They seem very enchanting to me and i would love to know more about them. Thanks
My question that has always been and still is 12:38 that if there is no meaning to life why bother making it fruitful or worthy of living..if we are to end up dead no matter how one chooses to live
The book of Ecclesiastes from the Bible has the answer to you question. Read it with an open mind.
did he predict it? or did he project it??
Steph Ler
Plot twist:
It was god himself who revealed it to Nietzsche :D
The FULL parable of the Madman:
Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market-place, and cried incessantly: "I am looking for God! I am looking for God!"
As many of those who did not believe in God were standing together there, he excited considerable laughter. Have you lost him, then? said one. Did he lose his way like a child? said another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? or emigrated? Thus they shouted and laughed. The madman sprang into their midst and pierced them with his glances.
"Where has God gone?" he cried. "I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto."
Here the madman fell silent and again regarded his listeners; and they too were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern to the ground, and it broke and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time has not come yet. The tremendous event is still on its way, still travelling - it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time, the light of the stars requires time, deeds require time even after they are done, before they can be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than the distant stars - and yet they have done it themselves."
It has been further related that on that same day the madman entered divers churches and there sang a requiem. Led out and quietened, he is said to have retorted each time: "what are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchres of God?"
About the final part about "contradiction" :
Nietzsche was the father of the conception of Agnostic x Atheist. Agnosticism is related to his knowledge (it is possible a "true world could exist" - I don`t know for sure because I have no knowledge of everything). Atheism is related to the "belief" there is a god or not. One is free to express that idea there is no god without the burden of prove it. So, it is faith x knowledge. He probably said that to please his critics that certainly demanded proof of his statements - religious people never cease to burden atheists to prove the negative (claim that the is no god).
I would not want to be alone in a room with Nietzsche... He looks like a really really really crazy person that I would want to be around... he look like he took his life too seriously...too bad...
This was super informative and well explained! Thank you!
I admire Nietzsche so much, but i have to disagree with his notion that believing in a true world and a God makes one "lazy" in this life. The whole point of Christianity at it's core is to strive to be a better person because the further down the road, the closer you come to Him
@bob penison I wouldn't call that lazy. Is it lazy if someone works hard to get a promised reward? You could call it selfish if you will but def not lazy
But if god’s a lie then his not gonna save you, you have to save yourself…cause god can’t cause you know his dead by giving us free will.
I believe that what you're experiencing is called 'cognitive dissonance', with a dash of 'kicking and screaming'.
Amen ❤️
The truth of knowledge is not that of life, but those who know suffer the most
Thank you so much for sharing. I learned a lot from your videos.
Just FYI, this video is not added to the Nietzsche playlist in your channel
Would you not agree that Western luxury has blinded us from true suffering and unable to overcome suffering many people unfortunately end their lives prematurely as they can not see the bigger picture. That the meaning of life is to grow and we need to suffer to grow. Instead of believing in a God or the idea of the Ubermensch people are hung up on petty problems and pleasure. It is if pleasure and false peace (temporary happiness) is the most important thing.
Believing in a God is in itself, a false peace
+Cameron Reid I woyld think there is a higher power possibly, but the God of the Old Testament certainly doesn't.
+Jack Daly while it isn't possible to prove a higher power doesn't exist, when I look at the world I see no requirement for one, nor do I see evidence of one.
+Cameron Reid All though this sounds pessimistic but there is a sort of universal power that doesnt really care about us. I forgot what its called?
+Jack Daly Yes, I definitely agree.
For so many years I was told lied to . They took the quote out of context and I just assumed.
Well I’m an atheist but I don’t believe life is meaningless. It just didn’t serve me much to believe in God, I actually felt more depressed and lost. But I understand those who want to believe and that’s totally ok. I personally think that we are responsible for our own purpose and suffering. We often limit ourselves to our potential and I believe the answers are in us to make a difference. There are many people who are successful, happy, moral and believe in the meaning of life without relying on an external force. I do think that people avoid certain things because the idea of a god and afterlife sounds more appealing. A lot of the suffering now is due to our lack of empathy and concern for others. Since we’re a social species we rely on each other for survival. I don’t believe life itself has meaning, but we can create that meaning however we want.
Western mentality is obsessed to get an absolute conclusion to every most difficult question in human life. While on the other hand, in the eastern world of Asia, hunting for ultimate conclusion of human life's purpose is have a different approach which isn't constructing a permanent basis.
And it came from India.
Yeez
Thank you for explaining this, the video is amazing
Although it is rare for me, I disagree with Nietzsche here. The belief in God gave people meaning, goals, and purpose, not an excuse to ignore these things. I have trouble understanding how Nietzsche could have missed that though, so maybe I'm missing something here...
Thanks for the vids !!!
Speaking of true world and Brahman...I do think that there's something to the idea. If we consider that matter is immensely energetic(E=MC2) and that energy is essentially eternal(Law of Conservation of Energy), it stands to reason that this is all one thing...one field or ocean of energy in which seemingly separate forms arise for a time, but all constituted of the same fundamental material, and all inexorably linked to the whole.
So then, how do you reconcile the localized experience of being a separate individual with also being part and parcel with the whole of existence? That's the question that has confounded us for our entire history, which religions seek to assuage, and which the nihilist throw their hands up over.
As someone who's spent a considerable amount of time mulling this over, the best conclusion I've mustered is there isn't an answer or final definition, but an endless unfolding that can only be beheld and appreciated.
Why are we here? Who knows?
What are we really? Who's to say?
All we can do is be present and see what happens. Resist the urge to label good or bad, this thing and that thing, but to see one great happening and go WOW, or hallelujah or waheguru or whatever you feel is most closely articulates something beyond definition
Yes, that's it. It's beyond definition.
Humans crave an answer and we love simple direct answers but as you say this whole life/existence thing is truly just a happening; nothing more, nothing less and it's all about how you deal with that.. you can become a stage performer and recreate a mini universe or mini reality on a stage and take part in the happening.. or you can become depressed, which I personally think is the childish approach; you didn't get the answer you wanted so you're throwing your bottom lip out to the world etc etc
It's all about living with no answer, aka no thing, aka nothing.. how do you live with a nothingness that will eventually consume you and the whole time no matter what questions you ask or scientific methods you implement, the answer will always be . . . Blowin' in the wind, as a Mr Bob Dylan once sang
The death of god was the succession of materialistic true worlders over Christian true worlders. Meaning was not lost but simply shifted focus. Still, materialism and it’s improvement does not fully satisfy and the quest for meaning still carries on.
We are allowed to look at the life of Jesus as both successful and not a success. This is where we can develop our response..that "God is dead we killed him". But if we see that it set the stage for leniency and the scales of justice..of mercy. We can see that it was successful or it would not have had an effect. But we have lost our luster and our motivation for the betterment of humankind from deeper disposition, like the heart or the spirit. We are not destroying the creative spirit, but merely trying to redirect it (look at. Jesus' first sermons on law of man and law of God - matthew 5:17).
The way you say "been"...
Bean
Dead/Death is a word used to describe the absence of life. Something that never existed in the first place can not be dead.
2012? This be some deep dive stuff, seems like quite a specific topic
I find myself existing purely to exist. I chase hedonistic pleasures until im numb to them. My life has no real meaning besides the meaningless goals i set for myself. But if my goals are meaningless and I will never accomplish anything that those before me have already done why do I even participate? It seems i hold myself to some type of honor code to give my best even when I know the world would still spin if I did not. I find myself craving a good death. Because to me, all that lives on after my demise will be the event itself and my descendants. I wish i could pull a veil over my eyes and be content knowing that people love me or there is a creator who made all of us for a reason but I find myself cynical to any real “meaning of life” and any arrogant enough to claim founding of it with their mortal eyes is a deceiver, the question is whether they seek to deceive others or if they are simply deceiving themselves.
"God is dead" as the concept of true world that gives a sense of meaning to life is declining in Humans, the sense that good deeds will lead one to true world, so one man's conscience is the only thing that keep one man good 🤔
I thought the "God is dead" phrase came from Thus Spoke Zarathustra?
Gerrit Ter Haar yes it is
I once saw a bumper sticker that sums it up. " God is dead , Nietzsche " " Nietzsche is dead , God ."
It is. The gay science just explains what Nietzsche was conveying in thus spoke Zarathustra
'The Madman' was a short story that grew into 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra'. Nietzsche transferred the death of God speech to Zarathustra because he was 1. the first prophet in the Irani/Aryan tradition, and 2. First Horseman of the Bible (recognised by his bow and the title "Cyrus of Cruses" on his thigh).
"Zarathustra was the first to consider the fight of good and evil the very wheel in the machinery of things: the transposition of morality into the metaphysical realm, as a force, cause, and end in itself, is his work. ...To tell the truth and aim straight; that is the first Persian virtue ... that is what Zarathustra means in my mouth."
[Ecce Homo - Why I am a Destiny]
@@bigdsteerage6822 Therefore, Nietzsche and god are both dead
The meaning of your life………… is exactly what you determine it to be.
Find your own reason.
Is anybody can tell me who was the great man who sais " the 21st century will be spiritual or it will not be."
From my own search of meaning I found answers in Bouddhism and Hindouïsm. The awakening is like to realise that what we call ourself, our EGO, our body our mental (manas) are not what we really are. The consciousness of "I am" is the ultimate state of what I, you, we are.
Truth is always exactly that: truth. That its popularity would inevitably wax and wane would not change it.
Actually, mind without faith will lead a person to suffer and s/he will not taste the deliciousness of living..
Look at him this moustache made him unkissable
I really like the german title of "Twilight of the Idols", "Götzen-Dämmerung".
Things change in this world or give the illusion of going through a cycle or illusion of breaking a cycle, the true world doesn't change. It is the end.
i Love this pleasure of knowledge .
'Creative individuals sculpt own world view'
..just as i was figuring how to word it....
Ways of expressing n interpetsting is communication ...where god is dead. (?) ...
Come on! 'Science' has been one of the great true worlds aswelL.
The believer adds to the prophecy of power .... ? ... That is the last thing kilLed. I tried many times w that spectacle.
Katja Thesaurus THAT is counter projected nihilism. Cognitive bias oppositional appeal to authority in question. :P
In seeing the horrible effect of nihilism, "as it were," beforehand, why would he ever think (to me, it does not make sense to think:) a world without true world beliefs would be a good thing?
I’m looking for a slide I came across on this page a while back. I’ve been looking through most of this pages videos, the Nietzsche ones and Nihilistic ones. It was a quote by an author Otto. It relayed a story of natives that once they came across colonizers and were shown that there faith was false. It said some laid by a river and died of depression. If anyone knows the author or the book that this is in. Please share if you know anything about this. Please
Found it in “Suffering and the meaning of life” The author is Ernest Becker
05:17
My opinion on Nietzsche, hasn't changed with this video.
He describes the time, when atheism became mainstream. In 1948 however, proof for the "metaphysical" Existence was found, thanks to the birth of the modern state of Israel. He is alive!
I don’t understand the depiction at the end between why it is better to not believe in a true world, it seems backwards to me. If there is a true world then it would seem you should have to prove yourself in some sense to attain it or be granted access to it, but if there is no true world then there is absolutely no reason to do anything as you’re simply in survival autopilot mode and your life and death serve no purpose or meaning. Does someone have a different thought or perspective on this?
When you say Nietzsche "descended into madness," it makes him sound like he actually drove himself crazy to the point where he became a useless sack of meat and shit that noone should strive to be like or study. The truth is, you neglect to mention that he had dementia which was likely a result of syphilis. This man did not "descend into madness." He was just fucking sick and his sickness destroyed his ability to function completely. He was a great man and I am embarrassed by the tone in which you made that false/misleading statement.
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thank you for this precious piece of information :)
Actually, he just had dementia by inheriting it from his father. The whole syphilis story is a fabrication made by a doctor who hated Nietzsche.
All of this research has made me an agnostic. I may be on the road to atheism but who cares?
an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist?
Just avoid those religions who tell you you have sinned and needs redemption.Such relgions were created for the oppressed and it gave them the endurance to survive everday slavery.
@@richardaliosada2337 give me a break, you telling him to go for Hinduism where your ego can be served?
seems like a man's need for meaning is like a man's need for food. We naturally crave it and will become sickly if we deprive ourselves of it. Crisis of nihilism. I don't know the answers but if our current perception of the world is making us nihilistic and sick, we still have more to learn about the world. I am theistic as a result. If you have something better, let me know.
The man did have syphilis... He is a genius... What did he think a believer was... Wow if I had syphilis could I keep that from my work...
An open rational discussion:
1) It should be empirically proved that people living in early 20th century (or atheists for that matter) were more nihilistic than people who lived before (there's no comparative study available) for Neitzche's claim to be proved (he assumed he would've been less nihilistic had he been born in a religious age).
2) As far as I can tell, Neitzche may have missed something very fundamental; he understood that theists invented God out of an innate psychological wishful thinking(as Freud pointed out); desire for meaning, in other words (to escape nihilism). So people try to fill this void or live with it's frustration, sometimes resulting in catastrophes. He himself, apparently, was tormented by the search for meaning, until he came up with his super-man theory. Did he ever question if life really needed a purpose at all, to begin with?
Should there be an end (goal) to life? Should it amount to something? Why live life with it's sorrows & sufferings only to have nothing to show for it in the end? Maybe this type of thought can be avoided if life isn't suffering; it's fun & joy. Children and teenagers and even some people all throughout their life have fun and enjoy & never stop to ask "What does this all amount to?". So the root of the problem may be that the brain tries to escape the present suffering by creating a Superman/afterlife or a utopian future; it tries to escape the pain it feels by creating hope in the future. A meaning/purpose for life. When that is shattered, then nihilism sets in. Maybe if the brain stayed with the pain & faced it, straight on, not trying to escape it, then maybe something new may arise.
I miss having to survive out in the wildereness.
So that's where gorgoroth got the album name...
peace is not the path of progress
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Godless people end up creating gulags and atrocity.
He never believed god was dead he believed The true god will for man was lost in man so for mans sake God was dead in their eyes... Its a metaphorh that everyone takes a little to seriously though remeber what the mad man says after he throws down the Lantern.
God: "Nietzsche is dead."
God is dead, God remains dead, because he is imaginary.
I condemn Christianity; I bring against the Christian Church the most terrible of all accusations that an accuser has ever had in his mouth. It is, to me, the greatest of all imaginable corruptions; it seeks to work the ultimate corruption, the worse possible corruption. The Christian Church has left nothing untouched by its depravity; it has turned every value into worthlessness, and every truth into a lie, and every integrity into baseness of soul.
Christ Shall Rule.
Christ Shall Conquer.
Christ Reigns Supreme.
God is Dead simply means death of all concepts constructed by the mind, including Good and Evil and eventually concept of God itself.
Such is Tragedy
@@mrvaas876 Blessing, freedom!
Pretty sure everyone experienced this in their life, surely Nietzsche just happened to be the one whose voice heard all over the world
I nearly fell out of my chair when the narrator comments, "fortunately the spirit of the modern age is different than 1914..." The only thing different in reference to the Stromberg quote is the amplification of the pro-war sentiment. With that said, many don't know or admit their views have been shaped by a universally pro-war msm, to include Democracy Now, and agit-prop Hollywood. I could go on.
TMiTM, Victor Frankl, the meaning of life is to give life meaning, healing of the few atheists mourned by scourn. Discordia.
The earthly world is an essential part of the real world.
When man thought it could read its mind is when god does
Islam is probably the only legacy faith that strikes a delicate balance between this world and the "true world". As the Qur'an states: “Our Lord, give us good in this world and good in the Hereafter”. No extremes like Christianity or even Nietzsche's opposite stance. The heavenly is sought in Islam, but the earthly is not disdained. One of the biggest reasons I am certain Islam is true.
God never existed so he could not have died.
He died to those who once believed.
I need solitude to protect me from the true world...we all do
So, is god dead or not?
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Never existed.
True world theories are also known as "eternal truths". These have existed in mythology all along but slowly the true meaning "esoteric symbolism" died and people became lost. They started worshipping Gods in a superstitious manner but the perspective of God was lost. This "perspective" is a way of looking at God, not God exactly.
Thus, people lost the meaning of life and descended to chaos, as there was order and that's one of the reasons why most religions are viewed as "Dogmatic toxic tribals" and partially true as religious institutions should aim at the ultimate eternal truth and should concentrate on uniting people yet they have became the target of institutional corruption and locked into this sad game of toxic tribalism which is malevolent in nature and counter productive, which seems like an endless loop.
purpose or meaning...Don't we already live our lives without having those in mind? At least for most of the time?
personally the absence of purpose and meaning is a big problem to me. I think about it all the time but have reached no satisfying conclusions.
Sean O'Rourke by purpose or meaning, do you mean that you seek higher purpose such as something like God or some higher principles? or do you seek purpose as in wanting your work and life to be related to helping others or improving the world in some sense? Please let me know whether it is something else that you have in mind. I think that our past experiences also somehow affect our perception of what we think we should do.
Well ahmed, I feel that in my case at least both intertwine. I have a personal goal which is very deep and seems to imbue life with meaning. However, my deeds ultimately appear to be meaningless when I consider it further. I also think about the impact meaning may have had on classical music and art. The idea of a muse also strikes me as extremely significant. I am a musician, and I feel that this blind abandonment and suspension of logic has utility in certain instances.
As far as my past experiences are concerned. I was raised Catholic. At thirteen I began to question and soon abandon belief in God. Prior to this questioning I was so devoted I wanted to become a priest.
Sean O'Rourke Artists may also depict their take on God or on some philosophical idealism. But I think for living through with one's ordinary life's tasks one does not need to believe for instant that God would ultimately reward them for washing the dishes.
I applaud you Sean for breaking out of the social expectations around you. When I mentioned past experiences, what I had in mind is closest to the way in which Nietzsche considers hardship as necessary and as important in shaping who we are. For instance, one may regret not spending enough time in the past with someone who they know they love. So, one would prioritize spending more time with that loved person because he/she regrets the past and not because spending more time now with our loved ones would buy us a ticket to heaven and not even because spending more time now would mean that we are adhering to Kant’s categorical imperative in some way. That’s in short my take on meaning and purpose: routine tasks do not require any higher purpose and our past experiences are relevant to who we are and who we ought to be.
p.s. sorry for having you read through all these one's.
Nietzsche seems to use Psychology as cover for his metaphysics.
You are what you is....and that's all it is....(Frank Zappa)
I understand nietzsche, but i don't think God is dead. The judeochristian/islamic tradition is outdated for today's world. There just might be a Creator, I personally believe in the Creator, but the thing is, eastern mystical traditions and shamanism has more meaning to the modern man. Taoism and Buddhism isn't about worshiping the Creator, it's about lifting yourself out of misery. And that is practical and useful to the modern man, not the mythology of mesopotamia. That is my view.
Lior Avni I don't entirely agree. Christianity seems to rise and comeback all over the world, it rises in China and comes back in Russia. And in the West there is pentecostalism.
I think in the west Christianity will come back after things have gone horribly wrong, for example if Europe is hit with a financial, geopolitical and internal crisis. Which I deem highly likely.
Poor, rich, higher or lower educated, Christianity brings meaning, ethics and community. Religion is a human condition and Christianity so far has been the most appealing one.
you think it s good to worship our selves and not our creator cause this is what the media is pushing i personally believe that there is god and that there is also the devil that tries to decieve us
Must be , they're reading his will....
Wow, just, wow
A mind without questions is indeed dead!! An Atheist is one who tries to mute the inner being, thus waisting time trying to justify his/her willingness to ignore palpable truths. Whether owing to a sense of superiority, or drowning empathy, the consequences can not be denied.
Nietzsche was real edgy
I did not dispair, after finally shedding the programming of religion instilled by my parents, as the virus of religion is most often transmitted to children. I laughed my ass off at my foolishness and the absurdity of it all. No different than when I discovered Santa Claus wasn't real either. And am very thankful I got out of the delusion of my imaginary god friend. The universe, the world, as it is, is amazing enough. I don't need an imaginary friend anymore. Nor does that sadden me. I'm going to die. And I'm cool with that. I shall return to same state as before I was born. How incredible I existed, as is, in this only life I have. And even with all the difficulty, misery, and suffering of life, that is plenty. How greedy and ungrateful do you have to be, to think there is an after life??? The real tragedy is to waste this only life we get, thinking in great anticipation there is another better life, which is the true nothing, a desperate imaginary fantasy and delusion of the human mind. It's all just human silliness and laughable. All the while, the universe, this world as it is, is endlessly amazing. And that ain't nothing. It's quite something. And I got to experience it briefly in this life. Incredible. And, that's that. "It's Christmas, it's Christmas in heaven, hip hip, hip hip, hurray!!!!!!!" - last song in the movie Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Nietzsche is dead but God will never die.
Rest in peace abrahamic gods! :(
I think that Nietzsche was wrong at the end when he said individuals will be better off not believing in a true world. There are a lot of people who believe in the afterlife who do great things in this life, they pursue lofty goals and contribute to the prosperity of the world.
He questions cause hes human.!!...but the labels come with the territory.....😒
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Wisdom hard won
In truth my mom been a Jehovahs Witness her whole life....a life of indoctrination!!!... Door to door Jesus...but "allas" mom took the bait "hook".."line"....and sinker",... Im the black sheep...addiction issues amongst other "ism's".... But ive witnessed"true colors" of family dynamic...and until starting a cult, or an offshoot of mainstream top dog faiths, ...becomes a major criminal act instead of being "tax free".... I guess God gets the tax,....my mom cannot "critically think",... Let alone work a cell phone... I was terrified of Jehovah as a kid!!!!....now im bemused at best.....addiction got nothin on indocrination,!!!... I have highly material successful kin, yet "like sharks", can smell a drop of blood a mile away...( i wonder if thats true?)...( gotta watch thoose "they says")... They care only of "net-worth".... Catch my drift?........😁