Timestamps: 0:01 1. MHJ was fired and I’m living for it. 2:00 2. The ex-FIFTY FIFTY members are digging up their graves. 3:28 3. A group’s reputation hinges more on it’s fanbase’s ability to whitewash scandals than on the group’s actual behavior. 4:38 4. The producer’s job is to make the song sound as good as possible. 5:34 5. ENHYPEN’s fans are being contradictory. 6:27 6. NMIXX’s “SEE THAT” is better than “DASH”. 7:23 7. It’s a disgrace how fandoms can spiral into complete chaos over every little controversy. 8:52 8. RESCENE’s cb with “Love Attack” was a BOP. 9:47 9. NOWADAY’s cb “WHY NOT?” was trash.
MHJ getting kicked out of her CEO position made me pace around trying to calm my excitement down. However, the fact that she is still around the NJS girls is... not a win. But we'll get there one day hopefully, it's already too late anyway- the girls are traumatized
"I bet the shaman didn't see that coming" ATE. By the way, k-pop is a mess these days. Like, not the music but the industry. SM and HYBE are burning, SK is lowkey burning because of the nth return... Bruh, what's going on ?
The deep fake and SA and drugs in SK are going crazy these days but they only care about idols instead of the victims For example a 90s idol that was charged with r*pe on minors was released and Even tried to open a TH-cam channel like eww
I nearly died when you said..." I bet the Shaman didnt see that coming ".....I think she did...thats why she ran away....can't have MHJ asking for refunds now😅🤣🤣🤣
Nah, the one about big fandoms washing criticism is wrong. First, what scandals do BTS have that army needed to cover up? Second, as well as army-multis are a menace for armys, they are a menace for everyone else, because they blow up scandals and are in everyone’s business 🤷🏽♀️ third, if you don’t hear about scandals, it’s mostly because the entertainments pay. Also I doubt that Hybe/Bighit pays a lot to avoid scandals, because why does one idol drunk driving a scooter gets more attention that another idol being investigated for months because of sa accusations? 🤷🏽♀️
People always say its unfair tht armys are always covering bts… but the fact bts members are not problematic but always got dragged is insane. Even now , look at how korea & kpop fans treated suga over a kickboard. it’s obvious how korea and kpop fans would rather drag bts & army rather than talk about an idol who got rape charges. Armys react accordingly because BTS has always been the black sheep.
I saw armys talking about how the public are sympathizing with suga after the photo line in front of the police station even though the police said no to the reporters, I saw some celebrities and psy came in and spoke 5:56 about the bullying he's getting after that, but may still have people who live in another word and can't see how far this situation has gone to
3. Girl I am sorry but I absolutely cannot agree with the fact that Armies can whitewash anything BTS member does. If that was true then Suga's case would not even have gotten this big!! 1) BTS members barely ever gets into scandal, they have eyes on them 24 x 7 and they cannot even breath loudly without media not knowing. 2) Even the most trivial of matter of BTS is blown completely out of proportion. Several of their videos are made and spread by antis and other fandoms like their lives depend on it!! 3) Just for eg: Take the hate JK got just coz he smoked like normal human beings!! Or why don't you think about how fandoms esp blink called JK pervert, just cuz he fell asleep on Live while talking to armies, it became such a thing that even media reported it and it was mentioned in Jimmy's late night show as well!!?? Or how about Tae following Jennie for a hot minute and it even making the articles?? If anything, all fandom, media, antis, haters, and even Knetz couldn't wait to drag this guys through mud for the most ridiculous and trivial of reasons. 4) BTS have NEVER gotten away with anything. If anything they had to go through 10x more harassment snd problem coz of their popularity. I know there are several toxic armies but there are many armies who are just protective of BTS and for a good reason. Just look at what happened to Suga, how much lies were spread about him, so many misinformation, false media reporting and what not!!BTS already has to go through a lot of issues in western media just coz of their fame and even in Kmedia they have to suffer the same. Is it so wrong to want to defend them??
Where was it mentioned, worry I'm just at start of the video and after reading this comment I want to delete my view lol.....whitewash? What does that even mean? There is literally no idol or person out there that is put at the same expectations and standards as BTS, they are literally put under the microscope with every step micro-analyzed...there is no human being out there that can survive like this for over a decade and even with all of this the most they could find about them is falling off a scooter which they dragged him through hell with....
@@MidnightxCrow It was mentioned in the 3rd point at 3.30 mins. Whitewash means turning black to white or more like painting BTS is good light and downplaying their scandals and mistakes. Which is ofc not true. BTS suffers way more than any other celebrity and Kpop idols for quite literally doing nothing
@@alesonu I've been Army since Dope, and I can not think of a single scandal we tried to cover up. How do you defend against allegations like this? I can't prove stuff, if there's nothing. There were mistakes we took accountability for and there were a whole lot of unreasonable attacks. But what did we ever sweep under the rug? I can't think of anything. What to do?
@@Sherluck93 Well unless they think we have so much power that we can literally control articles coming out, or western and Kmedia, I have no idea, how they expect us to bury scandals relating to BTS. We couldn't even bury something as small as JK smoking. Yes Armies defend fiercely but defending and burying sre two completely different things. PS: BTW I know BTS since 2014, Boy in Luv era, rare to meet senior armies!!
Let's be honest bigger group doesn't pass with anything they have all the attention a small mistake and it becomes a hug mess example suga's recent case he is being dragged till now by the media . It just as armys we try to let suga know that we are by his side
@@isha.sarraf I agree like kmedia is milking it too much and every other fandom believe it easily army also get hate cause we support him that he never lied only to be it prove by real cctv. Y'all know why kmedia milk it too much cause only this much of scandal they will find in BTS.
Fr... Nugu privilege is real, no one would care if some nugus fall from a scooter in front of their house. But when it comes to Suga they blew it up too much
@@bardakta_corba believe it or not but yeahh nugu privileged is there especially when every other fandom join hands to hate. Army are going through hate on twt right now for supporting Suga and comparing him a real criminal.
I've never seen a bad CEO get praised and still supported by fandom like newjeans fans did to mhj. This proves that nj fans don't really care about their faves and this is alarming.
MHJ is already making fuss about being fired and playing her old game of being a victim, and that it was illegal to fire her and she did not consent to it and all. I mean, what rubbish is this?? Since when did EE consent is needed to fire them?? I am fucking glad that she no longer has right to the shares and I think they are trying to get her out of director and if NJ keeps on clinging to their fake momma...soon enough they would be thrown out as well
4: Your explanation really clarified things for me. I'd take Soyeon, as an example. She understands her group’s voices so well that she knows exactly which member should sing each part to make the song sound its best.
Seriously. There are very few ARMY who said Suga did nothing wrong, most agree he shouldn't have done what he did but he doesn't deserve to have his life ruined over something so minor and have so many blatant lies spread about him and he owned up to what he did immediately and apologized. I would feel the same way I do about Suga's incident if any other idol did the same thing.
He doesn't even need a license for the scooter he rides. She says we covered up the case, girl, bffr they made the case too big, come to your senses, talk about Taeil instead of being 'speechless' about him
The way you dropped this right when the NCT Taeil getting dropped for sex crimes stuff came out I’m guessing this was made before you found out. Waiting on the next video 😭
I’m so happy that MHJ is finally getting reprimanded for her bullshit. The way that she was making Hybe, ADOR, other groups, and NewJeans look so horrible needed to be studied. Some bunnies are turning around and some are still delusional as fuck saying that this is the best case scenario and that NewJeans won’t change if she’s still the creative director. Proof some of these bunnies never gave a fuck about the girls, just the content. I will say this, I feel really bad for the girl’s seeing as they literally credit most of their own success to that woman and I just know their minds are probably going crazy right now. I hope they have someone who’s actually in their corner and cares about their well being. I also believe that Hybe or ADOR said in a statement that they’re still giving MHJ the opportunity to work with NewJeans if she chooses to and I highly believe that if she actually cares about those girls, she would stay to help them because if she doesn’t, it’ll be pretty clear that she never gave a fuck about them, just the success that they brought to her name. Also, I just wanna take the time to just thank you for allowing this channel to let us talk about our KPop thoughts freely. Some places on social media is literal suicide when displaying your thoughts on certain topics and I just wanna commend you for making these comment sections a safe place. Keep up the amazing work ❤️
Finally the day has come I am happy mhj got fired honestly she was ruining all the hybe grps with her stupid allegations and this is better for njs too mhj should be thankful that hybe is still keeping her as a director
1: FINALLY! About damn time! Every single fandom has been anticipating the ending to this drama! 22.04.2024 - 27.08.2024 that is 128 days or approximately 4 months. I am now waiting for YG entertainment and THE BLACKLABEL to start beefing. 👹
HYBE did Good job , , , THAT's REALLY2 SWEET Revenge and BETTER CHOICE , , , Welcome New CEO ADOR . . . 👑 People sometime forget that HYBE OWNs ADOR, , , NewJeans Own by SOURCE MUSIC 😉😎👍
Justice well served on MHJ. She’s an employee not the boss she wants to manipulate the whole HYBE, when she failed she started exploding wanted to drag the whole company down. Gladly she got under control. Hope everything goes well for everyone involved. Sadly GFRIEND disbanded in this battle because of her ambitious move.
1. Unfortunately she will still be close to the NewJeans girls, and its so true that the fans are more sad and sorry for MHJ than for the girls, I think she has some complex or something, since in the beginning MHJ was including herself a lot in the group, so now the fans see her as a member.
4. Actually, a producer's main job is in the recording studio. They are responsible for overseeing the entire recording process, which includes tasks like hitting record, guiding the performance, and making decisions on sound direction. The arranger, is in charge of making the song sound cohesive and polished. They decide how the instruments and vocals are organized, ensuring that they blend well together. For example, if you hear a change or cut in a song, that’s often the arranger's work. As the video mentioned, the producer typically doesn't decide who sings which parts; that's more the role of the songwriter or composer, who determines the best way to deliver the lyrics and music.
MHJ isn't a music producer, she's more of an art/branding director/ graphic designe, she just picks and chooses songs submitted through A&R department from various international producers/songwriters...so yeah she actually has no music background, she just likes to take credit fro that part, she's good though in terms of art direction and branding
@@MidnightxCrow She's not and never was. People just keep repeating that. How often does it have to be reported that she's selling other's work as her own (already when she was under SM, too!), that people would stop giving her credit and what, 'the benefit of the doubt'? She built her 'career' on being a fraud and using others for her advantage. Stop, even people opposing her keep validating her. That's how good of a manipulator she is! She's full of crap and made it this far somehow. But because Hybe values integrity and clean business practices, we all found out. She did herself in, it was just a matter of time. Under Hybe, this BS doesn't fly (tells you a lot about SM, too...). And she planned to either take over or ruin Hybe? Come on now. This woman is nuts. Get NJ away from her asap! 🤯 She did nothing but expertly figure out everyone's weak points and capitalized on that. For 20 years! It's shameful she wasn't caught earlier. So many people suffered and complained, but she was allowed to go on...
There are many types of producers. Record producers (music), executive producers etc. MHJ is responsible for branding and marketing, nothing to do with creating music.
5. Enhypen need rest, they look exhausted. Jay just recovered from his knee injury and now has the flu and has to sit out Japan, Heeseung and Jake are performing while sick, it’s heartbreaking. Their wish is to take a break away from cameras to eat and sleep -they are humans, not machines, they need a much deserved and needed rest.
Now girl I love your content but why are you ready for the ex fifty fifty member downfall. 😭 like it looks bad right now but idk I’m hopeful for these girls
4. Agreed. Imo quality > equality. Lets not fool ourselves, several people can't have vocal, rap and dancing skills on the same level. Producer's job is to prepare the best final product possible and that means giving more lines to people that fit the concept the best, have best singing skills or vocal tone that goes well with the concept. 5. Well, fandom is a group of people, not one person, so it isn't surprising that opinions are different. If anything, I feel like fans are unrealistic. Do they need a break? Absolutely, I hope when this tour ends on Sunday they get as much rest as they can and Belift will change the way they are planning their schedules, because they are clearly exhausted. But fans demanding 3-4 months of rest? This is not possible, not with South Korean working culture, not in saturated kpop market. 4 months of hiatus means about 6 months of being out of spotlight, because recording and preparing new things takes time. Fans want more variety shows, but not concerts? Both require time to prepare, but the first don't bring money and music industry is like any other industry, it was created to bring profit. And most of the time the money you make depend on the profit your company makes.
SHE WAS REPLACED. Thank goodness. I cannot understand why anyone still sides with Min Hee-Jin after all she's said & done. Please stop trying to give her grace for the mess she caused. She is all about herself and lives in her own sitcom. She is an employee and doesn't have to consent to be replaced. Based on her inability to recognize the truth or reality and her mishandling of this whole situation, I'm glad she has been removed. Let's get the house that BTS built back to business as usual. Love and agree with your entire reaction. Thanks!
Girl...newjeans are getting into a 2 years hiatus , they're screwed , hybe will throw them to the dungeons just like fromis or worse disband them just like gfriend
ENGENES!! - august 31, the day fate tour ends. also known as the celebration day is coming 💓 also the things you said yes toxic engenes can be so weird like they say rest but also want more variety shows like pick a side? im a huge engene and my ult group is enhypen but cmon guys..
1. I think it is all about the hate for HYBE (may be wrong). If you check comments, most international fans do not like her, but Koreans somehow keep supporting her for her "bravery". I don't understand it. In most countries, just half of what she did would be enough to get her out, and feel justified and supported by the public.
4. Yes normally producer get more lines to the idols with the voice that fits the most and that sound better, that why we normally see Jennie, Liz, Karina/Ningning and Lily getting the most lines (this were just some examples, which i think that are fair)
If these ex members wanted to use that name so badly, they could go for using a different name ATTRAKT hasn't trademark yet like 50/50 (that is if they haven't trademark that name too, not to my knowledge based on other sources where they're always using "Fifty Fifty" to talk about the group) or use other names like Half&Half, We're Whole, or 1&100, it's also similar to how CL recently started using 214L if she wanted to perform as a group again with her other members and also use XXI.
This might be an off-topic opinion but now that Fifty Fifty is being discussed again, I can't help but notice the similarities between Fifty Fifty and Fifth Harmony. 50/50 started out as a four member group where their 4 member line-up represent "whole" (referencing the whole number math problems and 4 is a whole number) so meaning they want to be whole with their fans all 50/50 (another pun and reference to their group's name) and 5H started out as a five member group. Now Fifty Fifty is a five member group where we now have a perfect balance at last and 5H became four member and the number 5 in their group's name represent their fanbase Harmonizers before 5H disbanded in 2017. Geez, is it just me or is the number 5 a grey number now? I'm not calling it lucky or curse number.
@@ztraycast Not sure what's so funny about people analyzing things on the Internet as we do that all the time. Cool that I made you laugh, but I'm not your personal jester, just another Internet person. I entertain my own deserving friends. Also, if English isn't your first language, it's actually "You're" and "too" but if you're typing this late at night, go to bed.
As if she woulda EVER left Hybe loll ...who would want her anyway loll....oh like how everybody lost their shit over a little indoor vaping loll...it's obviously not the stans spiralling over controversies , but y'all so called critics loll.
3. Recently I learned that in 2019 Jk crashed with his car. I have never known this ever happened before and was surprised. Back then btw, I was an army so imagine how fast the fandom can do something to make it never happened
Well if you didn't hear about it, that just means you were probably less of a fan than you think now, because even I knew about it only a few weeks/ months after I became an Army. And that was YEARS after the incident occurred.
@@chaaae5463 well, I was an army from 2016 up to 2019, so I guess the accident happened around the time I was no longer interested in the group, but I mean, this is huge and I missed it
@@jensetter-dib You're trying to cause trouble and to paint us as sweeping it under the rug. Just no! You surely were never an Army, if you did not get the news back then and don't get that it wasn't even a 'crash'. You're just trying to drag JK through the same BS in hindsight Suga was dragged through. Army is used to y'alls re-dragging old BS and twisting it again and again. Why can't you just support your favs and think?
1. Next Scooter please 2. I will always stand with the girls 🤷🏻♀️ 5. I've seen that same behaviour in multiple fandoms 6. Not for me, but the song is still amazing
Scooter is hardly involved in Hybe anyways. I don’t get why people even hate him that much for being in Hybe. He has nothing to do with the korean artists in Hybe. I know Scooter is an awful person and what he did to Taylor Swift. But I see mostly kpop stans talk about him, like he has never involved himself with any of the korean artists under Hybe.
@@vixxexo6855 he is involved Didn’t he recently waste most of the company money & he’s a filthy Zionest pushing hybe artist like Justin bebir Influence of bang pd
@@vixxexo6855 why fans hate him? Maybe cuz supporting genocide donating money to it should lead to lose everything? But yeah most kpop fans can’t care less about genocides since it doesn’t effect them But that’s how nasty scooter is the these fans still hate him
3: I totally get where you're coming from. The harsh reality is pretty tough to swallow. When Suga’s DUI happened, it was really shocking and frustrating to see some ARMYs downplaying it and comparing it to much more serious crimes like assault. It felt like that kind of reaction only contributed to make things worse and fueled the controversy even more. If another idol from a smaller company or a lesser-known group had been in the same situation, I’m pretty sure they would’ve been labeled as problematic before their fans even had a chance to defend them. It’s kind of sad and frustrating how different the responses can be based on a celebrity’s status and fanbase. Sometimes it feels like the more popular you are, the more complicated the fallout becomes. Makes you wonder if things would be different if we all held everyone to the same standards, no matter their fame.
army downplaying it? calling falling off scooter " falling off scooter " is downplaying? the controversy got worse because kpoopies like you and many others kept spreading false news , media spread false news , police who took care of dui cases of baseball player and a police officer in a day took whole of 2 week to figure out scooter type and the bac was false too . " If another idol from a smaller company or a lesser-known group had been in the same situation, I’m pretty sure they would’ve been labeled as problematic before their fans even had a chance to defend them. " keep crying if you cant call out fake media . " Makes you wonder if things would be different if we all held everyone to the same standards, no matter their fame. " if that would happen , no news coverage , no false headlines , no fake videos would be circulating .
@@RekhaSharma-hh1svDid you even understand what I just said? When I mentioned "ARMYs downplaying," I was talking about how some fans were excusing Suga’s crime as no big deal just because there are worse offenders out there, like actual criminals walking the streets. That’s not just ridiculous-it’s a massive reach. Comparing a DUI to something as severe as assault doesn’t make Suga’s actions any less serious. It only distracts from the fact that what he did was wrong and deserves to be acknowledged as such. The real issue isn’t just about what happened; it’s also about the broader implications and how some fans are quick to dismiss or downplay it, especially when it involves a high-profile idol like Suga. When ARMYs compare this incident to more serious crimes, it detracts from the seriousness of what actually happened and only fuels more unnecessary controversy. Saying his crime isn’t a big deal because there are worse offenders out there, like actual criminals, is not just a ridiculous comparison-it’s a massive reach that completely misses the point. Suga’s actions were wrong and deserve to be acknowledged for what they are, without excuses or distractions. Regarding your point about false news and how the situation was handled, I get that misinformation can spread quickly, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that the incident still happened. Suga himself admitted to driving under the influence, which is a violation of the law, and his blood alcohol level was reported at above the license suspension threshold. Even if the media took time to confirm certain details, the core facts remain the same-he made a mistake, and it’s something that shouldn’t be brushed aside, whether it’s him or any other idol. If a lesser-known idol from a smaller company had been in this exact situation, the backlash would likely have been more severe, with fewer fans and less media protection to cushion the blow. The double standard in how these incidents are treated is clear, and that’s what I’m calling out. If we truly held everyone to the same standards, regardless of fame, there wouldn’t be such discrepancies in how these situations are handled. So, instead of dismissing valid concerns as just "crying," maybe we should focus on the roots of the problem such as, unequal treatment and accountability based on an idol's status. Furthermore, refrain from responding to me in that manner. It’s not only irritating but also indicative that you’re not equipped to engage in a meaningful discussion on this topic.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ i wish you would actually write this long about the real criminals. suga is not a criminal , licsence is not needed for that vehicle(from new police statement)
I’ll never understand how anyone can see a huge conglomerate like HYBE illegally forcing out a lone individual, who only did the job they were hired to do so well that her girl group outshone all HYBE’s girl groups, as a win, like you’re proudly on the side of the corporations atp
2: WHYYY??? Thats just gonna make things worse!! They only recently announced that they’re coming back as a group in a different company. This is such a risky move! 🫣😳
3. I've been frustrated about this forever... Like let's not pretend those producers don't know what they're doing🫠... And do we really enjoy songs by counting how many seconds our favs get? Music is about the experience and how you enjoy "ART" but all of these toxic fans do is to obsess over how often their faves vocal chords vibrate in a 3 minute song with 8 members🫠
Timestamps:
0:01 1. MHJ was fired and I’m living for it.
2:00 2. The ex-FIFTY FIFTY members are digging up their graves.
3:28 3. A group’s reputation hinges more on it’s fanbase’s ability to whitewash scandals than on the group’s actual behavior.
4:38 4. The producer’s job is to make the song sound as good as possible.
5:34 5. ENHYPEN’s fans are being contradictory.
6:27 6. NMIXX’s “SEE THAT” is better than “DASH”.
7:23 7. It’s a disgrace how fandoms can spiral into complete chaos over every little controversy.
8:52 8. RESCENE’s cb with “Love Attack” was a BOP.
9:47 9. NOWADAY’s cb “WHY NOT?” was trash.
MHJ being kicked out from the CEO position is not in my 2024 bingo card. Anyway my ears are now pleased.
it 100% was on mine, couldn't be happier. That little bitch brought so much trouble for literally everyone
She dug her own grave🤷♀️
Hearing she's been replaced by her position is a relief😌
"I bet the shaman didn't see that coming" had me rolling
MHJ getting kicked out of her CEO position made me pace around trying to calm my excitement down. However, the fact that she is still around the NJS girls is... not a win. But we'll get there one day hopefully, it's already too late anyway- the girls are traumatized
"I bet the shaman didn't see that coming"
ATE.
By the way, k-pop is a mess these days. Like, not the music but the industry. SM and HYBE are burning, SK is lowkey burning because of the nth return... Bruh, what's going on ?
The deep fake and SA and drugs in SK are going crazy these days but they only care about idols instead of the victims
For example a 90s idol that was charged with r*pe on minors was released and Even tried to open a TH-cam channel like eww
I guess all your world runs on your fyp and what shows on your feed. The world is bigger than that.
I nearly died when you said..." I bet the Shaman didnt see that coming ".....I think she did...thats why she ran away....can't have MHJ asking for refunds now😅🤣🤣🤣
The shaman is the real winner in all this mess. Got her money and then she dipped and said peace out.
"She lost her shares", that's all I needed to hear. Day made.
Nah, the one about big fandoms washing criticism is wrong. First, what scandals do BTS have that army needed to cover up? Second, as well as army-multis are a menace for armys, they are a menace for everyone else, because they blow up scandals and are in everyone’s business 🤷🏽♀️ third, if you don’t hear about scandals, it’s mostly because the entertainments pay. Also I doubt that Hybe/Bighit pays a lot to avoid scandals, because why does one idol drunk driving a scooter gets more attention that another idol being investigated for months because of sa accusations? 🤷🏽♀️
People always say its unfair tht armys are always covering bts… but the fact bts members are not problematic but always got dragged is insane.
Even now , look at how korea & kpop fans treated suga over a kickboard. it’s obvious how korea and kpop fans would rather drag bts & army rather than talk about an idol who got rape charges.
Armys react accordingly because BTS has always been the black sheep.
I saw armys talking about how the public are sympathizing with suga after the photo line in front of the police station even though the police said no to the reporters, I saw some celebrities and psy came in and spoke 5:56 about the bullying he's getting after that, but may still have people who live in another word and can't see how far this situation has gone to
3. Girl I am sorry but I absolutely cannot agree with the fact that Armies can whitewash anything BTS member does. If that was true then Suga's case would not even have gotten this big!!
1) BTS members barely ever gets into scandal, they have eyes on them 24 x 7 and they cannot even breath loudly without media not knowing.
2) Even the most trivial of matter of BTS is blown completely out of proportion. Several of their videos are made and spread by antis and other fandoms like their lives depend on it!!
3) Just for eg: Take the hate JK got just coz he smoked like normal human beings!! Or why don't you think about how fandoms esp blink called JK pervert, just cuz he fell asleep on Live while talking to armies, it became such a thing that even media reported it and it was mentioned in Jimmy's late night show as well!!?? Or how about Tae following Jennie for a hot minute and it even making the articles?? If anything, all fandom, media, antis, haters, and even Knetz couldn't wait to drag this guys through mud for the most ridiculous and trivial of reasons.
4) BTS have NEVER gotten away with anything. If anything they had to go through 10x more harassment snd problem coz of their popularity.
I know there are several toxic armies but there are many armies who are just protective of BTS and for a good reason. Just look at what happened to Suga, how much lies were spread about him, so many misinformation, false media reporting and what not!!BTS already has to go through a lot of issues in western media just coz of their fame and even in Kmedia they have to suffer the same. Is it so wrong to want to defend them??
Where was it mentioned, worry I'm just at start of the video and after reading this comment I want to delete my view lol.....whitewash? What does that even mean? There is literally no idol or person out there that is put at the same expectations and standards as BTS, they are literally put under the microscope with every step micro-analyzed...there is no human being out there that can survive like this for over a decade and even with all of this the most they could find about them is falling off a scooter which they dragged him through hell with....
@@MidnightxCrow It was mentioned in the 3rd point at 3.30 mins.
Whitewash means turning black to white or more like painting BTS is good light and downplaying their scandals and mistakes.
Which is ofc not true. BTS suffers way more than any other celebrity and Kpop idols for quite literally doing nothing
@@MidnightxCrow I'm in the same boat! Let's see, I'll comment then. 😅 I hope it's not some ridiculous BS... They like to play both sides.
@@alesonu I've been Army since Dope, and I can not think of a single scandal we tried to cover up. How do you defend against allegations like this? I can't prove stuff, if there's nothing. There were mistakes we took accountability for and there were a whole lot of unreasonable attacks. But what did we ever sweep under the rug? I can't think of anything. What to do?
@@Sherluck93 Well unless they think we have so much power that we can literally control articles coming out, or western and Kmedia, I have no idea, how they expect us to bury scandals relating to BTS. We couldn't even bury something as small as JK smoking. Yes Armies defend fiercely but defending and burying sre two completely different things.
PS: BTW I know BTS since 2014, Boy in Luv era, rare to meet senior armies!!
Let's be honest bigger group doesn't pass with anything they have all the attention a small mistake and it becomes a hug mess example suga's recent case he is being dragged till now by the media . It just as armys we try to let suga know that we are by his side
they want to paint them bad guys .
@@isha.sarraf I agree like kmedia is milking it too much and every other fandom believe it easily army also get hate cause we support him that he never lied only to be it prove by real cctv. Y'all know why kmedia milk it too much cause only this much of scandal they will find in BTS.
Fr... Nugu privilege is real, no one would care if some nugus fall from a scooter in front of their house. But when it comes to Suga they blew it up too much
@@bardakta_corba believe it or not but yeahh nugu privileged is there especially when every other fandom join hands to hate. Army are going through hate on twt right now for supporting Suga and comparing him a real criminal.
Frr
I've never seen a bad CEO get praised and still supported by fandom like newjeans fans did to mhj. This proves that nj fans don't really care about their faves and this is alarming.
Next video is going to be about NCT's Taeil for sure
Bro did u hear...I'm so surprised lol and he was in one of the most popular groups.if he's found guilty I hope he pays for his crimes
Can someone explain what he did please
@@JoshuaMayala-qy1qm may all the celebrities doing sinister stuff behind the scenes be exposed
@@BELIEVER78989 he got removed for a sex crime
he is CHARGED not INVESTIGATING.... he is done .. hope victim gets justice@@JoshuaMayala-qy1qm
MHJ is already making fuss about being fired and playing her old game of being a victim, and that it was illegal to fire her and she did not consent to it and all. I mean, what rubbish is this?? Since when did EE consent is needed to fire them?? I am fucking glad that she no longer has right to the shares and I think they are trying to get her out of director and if NJ keeps on clinging to their fake momma...soon enough they would be thrown out as well
4: Your explanation really clarified things for me. I'd take Soyeon, as an example. She understands her group’s voices so well that she knows exactly which member should sing each part to make the song sound its best.
5. Engenes obsession with NI-KI is concerning. I see people fantasizing about him and a lot of raunchy fanfics and 18+ edits. The kid just turned 18.
The fanfics are created by teenage fans which is honestly disgusting and concerning in every way possible
Mhj Being attacked: *oh no what's that IT'S COMING AT ME, NO MATTER WHAT I DO*
Attacker: hello I'm the consequences of your own actions let's chat.
3. crying about falling off scooter , when there is worse going in korea? lol keep crying .
Seriously. There are very few ARMY who said Suga did nothing wrong, most agree he shouldn't have done what he did but he doesn't deserve to have his life ruined over something so minor and have so many blatant lies spread about him and he owned up to what he did immediately and apologized. I would feel the same way I do about Suga's incident if any other idol did the same thing.
Yup the cryers are the police, media and anti’s. Cry me a river.
He doesn't even need a license for the scooter he rides. She says we covered up the case, girl, bffr they made the case too big, come to your senses, talk about Taeil instead of being 'speechless' about him
Frr
Armies _LOVE_ an echochamber. You move like a cult.
The way you dropped this right when the NCT Taeil getting dropped for sex crimes stuff came out I’m guessing this was made before you found out. Waiting on the next video 😭
wait what?? what did I miss
@@unknownnamestfujust google nct taeil 😩
@@unknownnamestfusm kicked taeil out of nct because he did some se* crime stuff the police said more information will be shown tomorrow
I'm still speechless
I thinking why kmedia still hasn't made 1000+ article on it.
I’m so happy that MHJ is finally getting reprimanded for her bullshit. The way that she was making Hybe, ADOR, other groups, and NewJeans look so horrible needed to be studied. Some bunnies are turning around and some are still delusional as fuck saying that this is the best case scenario and that NewJeans won’t change if she’s still the creative director. Proof some of these bunnies never gave a fuck about the girls, just the content. I will say this, I feel really bad for the girl’s seeing as they literally credit most of their own success to that woman and I just know their minds are probably going crazy right now. I hope they have someone who’s actually in their corner and cares about their well being. I also believe that Hybe or ADOR said in a statement that they’re still giving MHJ the opportunity to work with NewJeans if she chooses to and I highly believe that if she actually cares about those girls, she would stay to help them because if she doesn’t, it’ll be pretty clear that she never gave a fuck about them, just the success that they brought to her name.
Also, I just wanna take the time to just thank you for allowing this channel to let us talk about our KPop thoughts freely. Some places on social media is literal suicide when displaying your thoughts on certain topics and I just wanna commend you for making these comment sections a safe place. Keep up the amazing work ❤️
Finally the day has come I am happy mhj got fired honestly she was ruining all the hybe grps with her stupid allegations and this is better for njs too mhj should be thankful that hybe is still keeping her as a director
YALL HEAR ABOUT NCT TAEIL GETTING REMOVED FROM THE GROUP 😩 this man is just a disappointment
what? what happened?
@@heonierose he was involved in a SA of a girl
1: FINALLY! About damn time! Every single fandom has been anticipating the ending to this drama!
22.04.2024 - 27.08.2024 that is 128 days or approximately 4 months.
I am now waiting for YG entertainment and THE BLACKLABEL to start beefing. 👹
talk about the nct tael situation
Taeil*
HYBE did Good job , , , THAT's REALLY2 SWEET Revenge and BETTER CHOICE , , , Welcome New CEO ADOR . . . 👑
People sometime forget that HYBE OWNs ADOR, , ,
NewJeans Own by SOURCE MUSIC 😉😎👍
Justice well served on MHJ. She’s an employee not the boss she wants to manipulate the whole HYBE, when she failed she started exploding wanted to drag the whole company down. Gladly she got under control. Hope everything goes well for everyone involved. Sadly GFRIEND disbanded in this battle because of her ambitious move.
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1. Unfortunately she will still be close to the NewJeans girls, and its so true that the fans are more sad and sorry for MHJ than for the girls, I think she has some complex or something, since in the beginning MHJ was including herself a lot in the group, so now the fans see her as a member.
Lol yeah should change to jeans & mom suddenly it sounds like mother & child clothing store 😂
4. Actually, a producer's main job is in the recording studio. They are responsible for overseeing the entire recording process, which includes tasks like hitting record, guiding the performance, and making decisions on sound direction.
The arranger, is in charge of making the song sound cohesive and polished. They decide how the instruments and vocals are organized, ensuring that they blend well together. For example, if you hear a change or cut in a song, that’s often the arranger's work.
As the video mentioned, the producer typically doesn't decide who sings which parts; that's more the role of the songwriter or composer, who determines the best way to deliver the lyrics and music.
MHJ isn't a music producer, she's more of an art/branding director/ graphic designe, she just picks and chooses songs submitted through A&R department from various international producers/songwriters...so yeah she actually has no music background, she just likes to take credit fro that part, she's good though in terms of art direction and branding
@@MidnightxCrow She's not and never was. People just keep repeating that. How often does it have to be reported that she's selling other's work as her own (already when she was under SM, too!), that people would stop giving her credit and what, 'the benefit of the doubt'? She built her 'career' on being a fraud and using others for her advantage. Stop, even people opposing her keep validating her. That's how good of a manipulator she is! She's full of crap and made it this far somehow. But because Hybe values integrity and clean business practices, we all found out. She did herself in, it was just a matter of time. Under Hybe, this BS doesn't fly (tells you a lot about SM, too...). And she planned to either take over or ruin Hybe? Come on now. This woman is nuts. Get NJ away from her asap! 🤯
She did nothing but expertly figure out everyone's weak points and capitalized on that. For 20 years! It's shameful she wasn't caught earlier. So many people suffered and complained, but she was allowed to go on...
There are many types of producers. Record producers (music), executive producers etc. MHJ is responsible for branding and marketing, nothing to do with creating music.
I WANNA KNOW YOUR OPINION ON TAEIL & HIS CONTROVERSYYYYYYY. I HAVE SO MUCH 2 SAY
Me too
dude, calm down. Its not the end of the world. I'm sure they'll post it tomorrow or day after
Its not even a controversy its straight up crime.
Damn wtf happened 😭😭
@@Gojo-ki-poookielots happened..
This is not gonna end well for new jeans I hope people are actually nice to them still
Why the new CEO lowkey looks like that 23 year old girl who unalived someone because she was curious to know what it felt like.
5. Enhypen need rest, they look exhausted. Jay just recovered from his knee injury and now has the flu and has to sit out Japan, Heeseung and Jake are performing while sick, it’s heartbreaking. Their wish is to take a break away from cameras to eat and sleep -they are humans, not machines, they need a much deserved and needed rest.
Now girl I love your content but why are you ready for the ex fifty fifty member downfall. 😭 like it looks bad right now but idk I’m hopeful for these girls
They have no chance.
@@redsimonyt they have a chance
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I was waiting for your update on the mhj matter 😂🎉.
4. Agreed. Imo quality > equality. Lets not fool ourselves, several people can't have vocal, rap and dancing skills on the same level. Producer's job is to prepare the best final product possible and that means giving more lines to people that fit the concept the best, have best singing skills or vocal tone that goes well with the concept.
5. Well, fandom is a group of people, not one person, so it isn't surprising that opinions are different. If anything, I feel like fans are unrealistic. Do they need a break? Absolutely, I hope when this tour ends on Sunday they get as much rest as they can and Belift will change the way they are planning their schedules, because they are clearly exhausted. But fans demanding 3-4 months of rest? This is not possible, not with South Korean working culture, not in saturated kpop market. 4 months of hiatus means about 6 months of being out of spotlight, because recording and preparing new things takes time. Fans want more variety shows, but not concerts? Both require time to prepare, but the first don't bring money and music industry is like any other industry, it was created to bring profit. And most of the time the money you make depend on the profit your company makes.
5:33 IM REALLY DISSAPOINTED IN SOME ENGENES LET THESE BOYS REST 😭
4- so true but still delusional fans never gave credit to producers.
SHE WAS REPLACED. Thank goodness. I cannot understand why anyone still sides with Min Hee-Jin after all she's said & done. Please stop trying to give her grace for the mess she caused. She is all about herself and lives in her own sitcom. She is an employee and doesn't have to consent to be replaced. Based on her inability to recognize the truth or reality and her mishandling of this whole situation, I'm glad she has been removed. Let's get the house that BTS built back to business as usual.
Love and agree with your entire reaction. Thanks!
Girl...newjeans are getting into a 2 years hiatus , they're screwed , hybe will throw them to the dungeons just like fromis or worse disband them just like gfriend
@@khouloudaithsain9215 who said they're getting in to a hiatus?
@@khouloudaithsain9215new jeans is one of the most popular girl groups, that won’t happen
@@khouloudaithsain9215 When did HYBE say they were going into hiatus?
@@khouloudaithsain9215 Hybe might act dumb but they’re not dumb, they know NwJns is super popular, they’re not gonna put them on hiatus.
we need a video about taeil tomorrow! did y’all hear he just got kicked out bc he was charged?
I like rescenes comeback, but i still like their other 2 songs more TT. Im sure the song will grow on me even more tho :D
ENGENES!!
- august 31, the day fate tour ends. also known as the celebration day is coming 💓 also the things you said yes toxic engenes can be so weird like they say rest but also want more variety shows like pick a side? im a huge engene and my ult group is enhypen but cmon guys..
The thumbnail 😂😂😂
😂 good for hybe
Did you hear what taeil did?
*was accused of doing
@@tp5510 the evidence must be damning if he immediately got kicked out for accusations
wait what happened?
@@Haneuloverr real criminal.
@@samira_360 yet you dont know that, so many accusations that turned to be false, stop coming to conclusion without knowing anything
1. I think it is all about the hate for HYBE (may be wrong). If you check comments, most international fans do not like her, but Koreans somehow keep supporting her for her "bravery". I don't understand it. In most countries, just half of what she did would be enough to get her out, and feel justified and supported by the public.
This is unrelated but any info on why yg groups do not promote on all kpop or KBS.Never seen any BM performance there.
3 is so damn truuuue!!!
4. Yes normally producer get more lines to the idols with the voice that fits the most and that sound better, that why we normally see Jennie, Liz, Karina/Ningning and Lily getting the most lines (this were just some examples, which i think that are fair)
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Review on Chung Ha's special digital single "Algorithm"?
it's so catchyy i love it!!!
Need your options on taeil
THISS
This has been the most chaotic week in kpop since twice, bts and Blackpink had a comeback in 2019 at the same time.
Ex fifty fifty members are soooo greedy
The lying 💀
@@AUGHHHHHBBG yeah they lie all the time
If these ex members wanted to use that name so badly, they could go for using a different name ATTRAKT hasn't trademark yet like 50/50 (that is if they haven't trademark that name too, not to my knowledge based on other sources where they're always using "Fifty Fifty" to talk about the group) or use other names like Half&Half, We're Whole, or 1&100, it's also similar to how CL recently started using 214L if she wanted to perform as a group again with her other members and also use XXI.
6. I love this comeback!!!
6. nah... DASH >> SEE THAT even though the ending chant in SEE THAT is sample worthy in the future for others
No, BOTH SONG >>>> YOU
@@xryvxctyrsyndry ??
did you just wake up looking for a fight
This might be an off-topic opinion but now that Fifty Fifty is being discussed again, I can't help but notice the similarities between Fifty Fifty and Fifth Harmony. 50/50 started out as a four member group where their 4 member line-up represent "whole" (referencing the whole number math problems and 4 is a whole number) so meaning they want to be whole with their fans all 50/50 (another pun and reference to their group's name) and 5H started out as a five member group. Now Fifty Fifty is a five member group where we now have a perfect balance at last and 5H became four member and the number 5 in their group's name represent their fanbase Harmonizers before 5H disbanded in 2017.
Geez, is it just me or is the number 5 a grey number now? I'm not calling it lucky or curse number.
you are thinking to much haha
@@ztraycast Not sure what's so funny about people analyzing things on the Internet as we do that all the time. Cool that I made you laugh, but I'm not your personal jester, just another Internet person. I entertain my own deserving friends. Also, if English isn't your first language, it's actually "You're" and "too" but if you're typing this late at night, go to bed.
As if she woulda EVER left Hybe loll ...who would want her anyway loll....oh like how everybody lost their shit over a little indoor vaping loll...it's obviously not the stans spiralling over controversies , but y'all so called critics loll.
she might HAVE to leave Hybe..
@@CuddleBear07 i know .. I'm saying if it was up to her ..
6: AGREED!!!
YES. Like sometime being an engene and seeing stupid engenes gets me soo mad!
pls do a review about Sm group documentary Made in Korea
3. Recently I learned that in 2019 Jk crashed with his car. I have never known this ever happened before and was surprised. Back then btw, I was an army so imagine how fast the fandom can do something to make it never happened
Well if you didn't hear about it, that just means you were probably less of a fan than you think now, because even I knew about it only a few weeks/ months after I became an Army. And that was YEARS after the incident occurred.
@@chaaae5463 well, I was an army from 2016 up to 2019, so I guess the accident happened around the time I was no longer interested in the group, but I mean, this is huge and I missed it
@@jensetter-dib You're trying to cause trouble and to paint us as sweeping it under the rug. Just no! You surely were never an Army, if you did not get the news back then and don't get that it wasn't even a 'crash'. You're just trying to drag JK through the same BS in hindsight Suga was dragged through. Army is used to y'alls re-dragging old BS and twisting it again and again. Why can't you just support your favs and think?
When it happened, many talked about Jungkook. Every korean media reported about it.
❤🔥BOYNEXTDOOR COMEBACKS ON SEPTEMBER 9th uw!!!❤🔥
You ARMYS are
something else. I'm impressed yall fight for bts it's inspiring honestly
Keep going yall love shitting on BTS & their fans. Since it makes you feel good lol
No broh. We just know that whether it was 2014 or 2024, BTS can only rely on armies. Coz everyone else is just finding reason to target them
1. Next Scooter please
2. I will always stand with the girls 🤷🏻♀️
5. I've seen that same behaviour in multiple fandoms
6. Not for me, but the song is still amazing
Scooter is hardly involved in Hybe anyways. I don’t get why people even hate him that much for being in Hybe. He has nothing to do with the korean artists in Hybe. I know Scooter is an awful person and what he did to Taylor Swift. But I see mostly kpop stans talk about him, like he has never involved himself with any of the korean artists under Hybe.
@@vixxexo6855 he is involved
Didn’t he recently waste most of the company money
& he’s a filthy Zionest pushing hybe artist like Justin bebir
Influence of bang pd
@@vixxexo6855 why fans hate him?
Maybe cuz supporting genocide donating money to it should lead to lose everything?
But yeah most kpop fans can’t care less about genocides since it doesn’t effect them
But that’s how nasty scooter is the these fans still hate him
STREAM LOVE ATTACK AND PINBALL BY RESCENE!
9. The song showcased members skills. The rap section was SOLID, something boy groups lack these days (except Stray kids and ATEEZ)
Random question, guys, but are any of you curious to see if Everglow-up will talk about Yoongi's DUI case. I wonder what her opinion on this would be.
Then ask her???? Why come to another channel wondering that when it has no relation to EGU?
i wonder what her opinion will be on taeil .
Agree with everything except no.5..Imo dash is still nmixxs best release and see that is not on dash's level
It's Ador not Adior!
*adios to ADOR
Not her fault but the AI voice
3. This is the first opinion I've ever completely agreed with you on. I could not agree more.
I ❤ NEW JEANS!! I HOPE THEY DON'T GET RUINED NOW!!!
Finally…
Good LMAOO
3: I totally get where you're coming from. The harsh reality is pretty tough to swallow. When Suga’s DUI happened, it was really shocking and frustrating to see some ARMYs downplaying it and comparing it to much more serious crimes like assault. It felt like that kind of reaction only contributed to make things worse and fueled the controversy even more. If another idol from a smaller company or a lesser-known group had been in the same situation, I’m pretty sure they would’ve been labeled as problematic before their fans even had a chance to defend them.
It’s kind of sad and frustrating how different the responses can be based on a celebrity’s status and fanbase. Sometimes it feels like the more popular you are, the more complicated the fallout becomes. Makes you wonder if things would be different if we all held everyone to the same standards, no matter their fame.
army downplaying it? calling falling off scooter " falling off scooter " is downplaying? the controversy got worse because kpoopies like you and many others kept spreading false news , media spread false news , police who took care of dui cases of baseball player and a police officer in a day took whole of 2 week to figure out scooter type and the bac was false too .
" If another idol from a smaller company or a lesser-known group had been in the same situation, I’m pretty sure they would’ve been labeled as problematic before their fans even had a chance to defend them. " keep crying if you cant call out fake media .
" Makes you wonder if things would be different if we all held everyone to the same standards, no matter their fame. " if that would happen , no news coverage , no false headlines , no fake videos would be circulating .
@@RekhaSharma-hh1svDid you even understand what I just said? When I mentioned "ARMYs downplaying," I was talking about how some fans were excusing Suga’s crime as no big deal just because there are worse offenders out there, like actual criminals walking the streets. That’s not just ridiculous-it’s a massive reach. Comparing a DUI to something as severe as assault doesn’t make Suga’s actions any less serious. It only distracts from the fact that what he did was wrong and deserves to be acknowledged as such. The real issue isn’t just about what happened; it’s also about the broader implications and how some fans are quick to dismiss or downplay it, especially when it involves a high-profile idol like Suga. When ARMYs compare this incident to more serious crimes, it detracts from the seriousness of what actually happened and only fuels more unnecessary controversy. Saying his crime isn’t a big deal because there are worse offenders out there, like actual criminals, is not just a ridiculous comparison-it’s a massive reach that completely misses the point. Suga’s actions were wrong and deserve to be acknowledged for what they are, without excuses or distractions.
Regarding your point about false news and how the situation was handled, I get that misinformation can spread quickly, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that the incident still happened. Suga himself admitted to driving under the influence, which is a violation of the law, and his blood alcohol level was reported at above the license suspension threshold. Even if the media took time to confirm certain details, the core facts remain the same-he made a mistake, and it’s something that shouldn’t be brushed aside, whether it’s him or any other idol.
If a lesser-known idol from a smaller company had been in this exact situation, the backlash would likely have been more severe, with fewer fans and less media protection to cushion the blow. The double standard in how these incidents are treated is clear, and that’s what I’m calling out. If we truly held everyone to the same standards, regardless of fame, there wouldn’t be such discrepancies in how these situations are handled. So, instead of dismissing valid concerns as just "crying," maybe we should focus on the roots of the problem such as, unequal treatment and accountability based on an idol's status. Furthermore, refrain from responding to me in that manner. It’s not only irritating but also indicative that you’re not equipped to engage in a meaningful discussion on this topic.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ i wish you would actually write this long about the real criminals. suga is not a criminal , licsence is not needed for that vehicle(from new police statement)
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv can you at least respond back to the actual comment and not go off track?
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ do you think im free enough to read essay? get lost , he will never be a criminal you want him to be .
For 5- Are we suddenly surprised that kpop fans (and engenes) are contradictory? That's literally part of any fandom application atp
I’ll never understand how anyone can see a huge conglomerate like HYBE illegally forcing out a lone individual, who only did the job they were hired to do so well that her girl group outshone all HYBE’s girl groups, as a win, like you’re proudly on the side of the corporations atp
2: WHYYY??? Thats just gonna make things worse!! They only recently announced that they’re coming back as a group in a different company. This is such a risky move! 🫣😳
3. I've been frustrated about this forever... Like let's not pretend those producers don't know what they're doing🫠... And do we really enjoy songs by counting how many seconds our favs get? Music is about the experience and how you enjoy "ART" but all of these toxic fans do is to obsess over how often their faves vocal chords vibrate in a 3 minute song with 8 members🫠