Its true, especially if you live in the USA, i would rank the usa as the worst nation to get psychological help, Literally in a caribbean island you can get better mental help, In the USA, All psychologists have a relation with the police for example, you can never trust an American psychologist if you tell them that you’re suicidal, They’ll give you useless medication and often you will find the police questioning you like if you were some sort of criminal, They say the help you in the usa, It’s a lie in the usa they only torture you, I live in usa i travelled to Mexico just to get psychological help (im mexican-american), I travelled all the way to mexico cuz i knew i could trust the psychologists there, So if you want psychological help dont look for it in the usa unless you want the fbi knocking down your door the next morning, Look for it elsewhere.
You're right they do expect you to act like you don't have it in fact it's harder trying to deal with things on your own being fed up with zelle progress no one telling you otherwise so instead you just stop talking how you try so hard to please person that you stopped entirely acting in certain ways try to be so perfect to the point where we you almost barely eat and you barely talk,and it's very hard to just stay calm even though they expect it,but with understanding
Yes, if you have a mental illness, you just need “their” (non-professional and not requested) advice and input, as if it’s the only thing missing in your approach. And that you should just ‘snap out of it”
Alexis Brickner Ugh yes. All the time. Mental illness can affect anyone regardless of their life. People who make this type of comment do not understand the weight of their judgement.
Alexis Brickner i hit myself with that 24/7. I have another voice in my head that always says "your depression is fake, you just want attention. Fake.fake.fake.fake" it's great
TwentyØnePanics!withCryBaby&EdSheeran depression is not fake. if its causing a problem and you have no control over it then its not your fault. please seek out help if you need it, theres no shame in needing help.
The problem with depression and all other illnesses is that people can´t find out of themselves and what they´re allowed or supposed to feel. And they can´t really talk to anyone about it without being judged or fall victim to prejudice or people´s stupid remarks.
that's the goddamn truth. I've been hospitalized once, and at that moment, it's what I needed more than anything. it was a step away from all forms of stress & positive and negative things in my life. it was painful, but it was a completely FREE place to address a lot of things. you're completely right.
Thank you for your concern, Ella; but I have had a long experience with my disease. While your intention is helpful, it s frustrating when the mention of this is so often met with a comment of, "It could be a misdiagnosis". Considering my other health issues, I've had almost everything checked. While my thyroid does tend to run slightly low, it's not the culprit. It's just what gives me thin hair. I've been symptomatic of bipolar disorder for thirty years. Max, please don't use the term "crazy" people. It's insulting, and by the definition ii is not even really fitting. What exactly do you think we're saying it is a break from? It's a break from feeling that you're alone without help from your symptoms, a break from the condition as you get care, and even a break from feeling unsafe from yourself, when you cannot trust yourself with your own safety. When you are suddenly in a safe place, getting treatment from a condition that has been tearing your life apart, it is a huge break.
Telling someone “why are you sad when there is so much to be happy about?” is like telling someone with asthma “why can’t you breathe when there’s so much air?” It didn’t help, and telling someone “ok let’s go talk to tell counselor” instead of listening doesn’t help. No one wants to be sent to some hospital to be viewed like a zoo animal. Everyone just wants to feel “normal”.
yep talking to a counselor is great but its the failure of these offices and people who work in it (not every), I think the approach should done differently, just my opinion
"I didn't want to die, but i definitely didn't want to live anymore". I am 41 years old, and I have felt this way everyday for the past 20 + years. I am finally gaining courage to seek help after all these Ted talks I've been watching. Thank you everyone who has spoken about this.
I hope you’ve asked for help. I know sometimes society will make men feel as though they have to ‘man up’ but that’s certainly not the case! If you need help, get it! It’s worth it in the long run 💕
Being hospitalized isn't necessarily the 'worst thing ever' as so many have it in their minds. Feeling locked up and not in control of your life sucks but gaining the skills and wisdom to live a healthier life is extremely useful. Psych wards will not be as you see in movies, I'm betting. If you can put your responsibilities on hold for two weeks, getting mental health help in the form of being hospitalized might be a good idea if you are struggling hard.
Something about depression/dysthymia/mental illness in general that is the worst is probably the guilt. All these people in these Ted Talks have LEGITIMATE reasons to end up in a downwards spiral and getting depressed, this woman has clearly been through a lot, and while my life isn't cherries and sunshine and I'm rarely happy, I haven't undergone some sort of painful past trauma. And yet I feel this way. It feels wrong. It makes me mad. People have it so much worse, you know? Do I have the right to feel this way? Those intrusive thoughts are probably the worst part of it because you can be depressed and not have a reason. It could be the combination of a dozen small reasons, but nothing specifically. And the guilt kills you.
Depression is as common as stars in the sky. You have a network of people that will still support you. Find them and be yourself. Forget the people that tell you that you have no reason. It's always a reason
I think a lot of people are missing the fact that the extrovert ideal came about in the early 20th century with the rise of big business. Solitude is not valued in western culture. Introversion is seen as somewhere between a disappointment and a pathology. So much great art comes from people who value solitude. It's ok to have one friend or none, or a cat for a best friend; the fact that there are memes insulting people who live like this means that there are cruel unenlightened humans in the world, not that that life is inherently bad. You don't need to be like everybody else to have value. People also miss the fact that energetically we are all connected; probably because in the culture that highly values the physical world, that which is unseen is met with suspicion. Noone needs to be lonely because they are 50 feet from another human in the next home and have been told they need someone in the same room with them always. Now THAT could be seen as neurotic too, needing people around all the time, yet somehow extroversion was elevated to king and people are still believing that as the only truth.
Just because someone hasn't gone through a traumatic experience, doesn't mean that they can't be depressed. Depression doesn't discriminate, it can affect anyone and everyone, no matter their circumstances or past. So many people have mental illnesses, and it doesn't always have to do with if they've had a traumatic experience or not.
I gave up trying to explain my depression and anxiety issues to anyone,including my family.Unless they have experienced it themselves they will NEVER understand what it's like and will only look down on you for it like you are behaving that way for attention or pitying yourself.
That's why i regret opening up in the first place. Things were better when i didn't think of taking any step to try to change something. Can't believe i thought that was the worst that could happen.
Thank you for this talk; any person who gets up and talks about mental illness from an honest place is worthy of my time. I'm inspired by the courageous people who do, and I will do more so soon.
What most people don't understand is that most mental illness stays forever, its never gonna go away really it gets better and worse but its never going to be fully healed. "What, you STILL have anxiety?" Well yes, its not like the flue, this actually stays
I’ve always told people to just redirect their bad thoughts into good and now that I’ve started having panic attacks everyday and feeling like nothing matters I feel so bad that I told ppl that
I'm not sure what I was expecting when I signed up for this, but I am blown away by the amount of support this has. Y'all are amazing people. Share your stories. Be kind to one another. Live life in a manner that rewards growth and keep pushing forward. I do want to clarify that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being hospitalized. I meant this as a moment of reference for people to understand the severity of threat of danger I imposed on my self. From what I've learned through stories shared by my loved ones, hospitals are a great resource and will help you organize, get back on your feet, and more than anything rest and just take a dang breather. Hospitals are a huge help and I am 100% an advocate for them. If there is one truth I can leave you with it's that self-love and self-compassion are muscles. The more you use them (even if you don't believe yourself at first) the stronger they get. So work out those muscles!!! I believe in you!!!
Im so touched by your story. Im a mother of 2 girls that have been diagnosed w depression and anxiety and OCD ..i looked up the ted talk just to see if there is other mothers that are going thru the same as me ..and i came across your talk! There is hope for my girl's as one is a senior and one entering college! Thank you for your courage in sharing!
oh lord I hate when people say "well just be more positive try to convert that negative engery into positive energy " and it makes me the angriest but as I'm angry I'm also crumbling on the inside because people just don't understand its not that easy to just "be positive" its way way easier said then done and the time heals part ,over the past 4 years its just gotten worse so I also dislike when people say that
Skye Ratliff yeah, i get you. It gets me too. Every time someone says that i go " sure. I know, like i can think. Really. I can think fine and i have thought of that idea already, but my problem is I can't do it! get it! " in my head. But yeah i can't blame others too.
Q: what type of response are u looking for if u dont likw when people say be positive? I deal with someone close to me that suffer from depression and i say all the time use that negative energy and do something positive.
Being positive and having positive thoughts are habits that when used as a healthy functioning person, can keep you from spiraling into depression. Lazy body+negative thoughts=unhappy person; Active body+positive thoughts=happy person. If you can't do the work yourself to get to that level, functioning point, a therapist or doc can provide the support you need. But once your'e there, practice healthy habits so you don't end up back in that hole!
@@easytoslip From Spain / Barcelona I write to you and I keep your words and advice to copy it on cardboard and hang it in my son's bedroom .... who knows if a few words can be a good medicine ... Thank you !!!
For those who suffer from depression or any mental illness, whether you take medication, go to therapy, both, or nothing, realize that overtime you have developed habits and coping mechanisms that need to be corrected. For this, the best thing I know of (and it's not easy) is CBT Cognative Behavioral Therapy. Basically not only do you need to take medication (depending on the illness and your brain chemistry) but you need to retrain your brain. And no, I'm not talking about thinking happy thoughts, that's actually very damaging for a variety of mental illnesses, namely anxiety based ones. While you will likely be taught to think more positively along with learning normal coping strategies, that's just a natural process of becoming normal, not a forced "go to your happy place" type thing. This is not a matter of will, it's exercise and practice. Your brain constantly forms new connections, renews itself. This takes time to exercise new ways of thinking. And you most certainly shouldn't have to do it (or should) by yourself. Think of it like physical therapy, for your brain. Mental illness are like major damage, and if untreated, it gets worse. The retraining that comes with getting better is therapy to get you back to normal, and it's a step so so SO many people miss. Medication will help train the brain to have the right amount of dopamine, serotonin etc, but it wont take away the habits you've developed and thought process that went along with the illness. Which explains why so many people relapse or don't get that much better. You can't just put on a brace and sit if your leg is broken. As it heals, you need to get it back in working order. Mental illnesses aren't much different, but they are a LOT more time consuming. So, know that there is help, and we're constantly finding more out about these illnesses. Ignore if you can the people who say it's about will and that they choose to be happy. It comes from fear most of the time. Last, for those of you with OCD issues, try SSRI's They're meant for depression, but can greatly help for anxiety disorders. The fact that people expect medicine to fix them is a fundamental misunderstanding of how medicine even works. Very very few things in life are a quick fix and when it comes to mental disorders, it's all about finding the right chemical balance, which is why it can take years to find the right dosage, brand and type of medication that can help. Either way though CBT will help if you take meds or not. But it's HARD. So be prepared.
I found CBT only works when you're on a certain path, and you accept your coping issues and comfort zones are bad and want to escape them. I went through this and before I realised I didn't understand CBT, and I couldn't make it work for me.
This is a good response, but don't discount DBT & medication either. DBT (Dialectical Behavioural Therapy) is great for personality disorders and is very intensive. Medication can help you get to a place where you have the tools to retrain your brain in a way that makes your coping skills healthy and manageable. Thanks :)
Vixx Celacea when making comments no matter how well written, remember CBT isn't the only option, DBT or Dialectic Behavioral Therapy is another option with better results for those who suffer from Bipolar, Addiction, and Trauma there is also EMDR a therapy that can permanently resolve trauma, I encourage everyone to do research, ask which therapy is right for you as no mental illness is the same Remember that there are many options and treatments and combinations thereof Mental Illness is as individual as it is universal, I'm not knocking CBT, I'm encouraging all of us to not give up, to keep exploring,fighting and to Speak up, someone I love said States will never make affordable and effective Mental Health Care a priority and it won't unless we all speak up take action and fight for the healthcare we deserve
Ella M-H DBT saved me, medication for me to a point where I could do the REAL work, and it is work, in addition to Behavioral Disorders DBT is highly effective for people who d udder from types of Bipolar Addiction and PTSD
I'm in such bad place right now and the only person I want to talk to (my best friend) keeps telling me to try not to get upset about things. I know he's trying to help and I understand what he means but it's definitely not that easy and he definitely doesn't understand that. Medication although helpful in getting you through each day doesn't stop your problems from being there. Right now I'm not strong enough. I know I can't be strong but I feel broken and I don't know how to fix it.
I never experienced grief, I never lost a loved one and I never felt lonely...yet I have been living with depression for the past 4 years. The reasons behind mental illness are not always clear, the human brain is way too complex to explain it simply with these factors. In my case, there was no ''triggering element'', which is even a better proof to show that you are never responsible for a mental illness; they are a biological problem caused by neurotransmitters.
I got over mine by listening to a hypnosis video to eliminate hypnotic suggestions. I think it’s inadvertently absorbed into the human brain through songs, news and anything you can see or hear.
i feel you, i feel the same, but i really don’t know if i have mental illness, and i don’t want to self-diagnose myself with any of it either. i’ve never gone trough the passing of a loved one, never gone trough anything past that traumatic or even close. but i feel as something is very wrong with me. i don’t know, but i feel you.
I suffer from depression. My wife has told me so many times to "just think positive" or "Just feel better". I always tell her "Oh wow!, Thank you for that..."
I have depression. And for the longest time I would say "I'm not depressed" and I would refuse to accept otherwise. But after staying up late, dealing with extreme insomnia, losing interest in the thing I used to love the most, I finally accepted and realized it. One day I literally just sat in my desk chair, staring at the wall with a blank expression on my face but tears just rolled down my face like as if it was raining inside. I even looked up any medications I could take that would stop me from crying so damn much. I was sick of feeling that way, whatever that numb feeling was. I suffer from ADD, Anxiety and depression. And the best way to describe how I feel in those moments of depression when it gets bad is "I feel numb in this kingdom". The lyrics from numbers of Daughter.
If you see this, you ARE strong you ARE capable you CAN make it and if you believe you can, then you will.... Sending you all love and good luck on whatever journey it is you are taking, stay positive people ✌️
I have been dealing with a mental illness most of my life for many years I was afraid of judgement and what people would think. Now I have gotten over that I am in the medical profession and I know at work I am not the only one with a mental illness because 1 out of 4 people are diagnosed with a mental illness. I work in a urgent care center.
Actively working to help others, is one way to help take one's mind out of its stuck repeat-loops. Maybe that is why their are such high numbers-per-population of mentally affected persons working in helping professions. Unfortunately, many of those can be really bad at being supportive of those with mental/emotional issues. Imho, the current paradigm of treating symptoms like they were the illness itself, instead of treating root causes, and dividing treatment of mental/emotional from various parts of the body, almost guarantees people stay stuck/sick/unbalanced. Yes, I'd say almost all healthcare professionals suffer mental/emotional issues. Too many paste on their 'game face', hoping to get by...fake-it-'til-ya-make-it. Often, it works well enough. Working heavy hours, is another coping skill. The tricks we use to keep going, are legion.
Exactly ! ""diagnosed""" is the key word here. It is different to have 1of 4 people DIAGNOSED from ACTUALLY having 1 of 4 with a REAL problem. Diagnoses are currently more common than...farts !
A friend once told me to "cheer up" and "look on the bright side" it's important for people to remember that everyone's experience is different. For me it was like living in a daze, I don't remember much about the year before I started recovery. Remember there is no "wrong" way to be depressed. It feels different for everyone.
Me too. I've really limited my places to go amd even family functions can get me having participatory anxiety and severe panic attacks. It's such a burden sometimes I wonder why I continue to fight. I've had this my whole life and the depression it brings on is horrible. If it weren't for my daughters and grandchildren I wouldn't have made it this far. God Bless you and I'm praying for you ..Lotsa Love
I'm in my mid-30's and can say that being isolated and growing up with childhood depression really effed up my adult life. I've missed so many opportunities to connect with professionals as well as potential romantic partners because of debilitating anxiety.
I can completely relate. I went from studying for my BA in Journalism in one of the best colleges in my country to being unemployed and self-medicating to be able to get out of bed and shower. I hope things have improved for you. I'm terrified of never getting over this but at least I can say that I'm trying every day. I even managed to get a part time job this year. It's a million miles away from what I envisioned for myself at this age however I know the suffering I've been through can be turned into a positive...there has to be a higher meaning (as ridiculous as that may sound) to the years of abject misery I've (and indeed we all have) gone through.
Mental illness is real, yes the first step should be brain scans,i have always said that, medication isnt always the answer, the side effects sometimes can be horrible, more needs to be done to help, more people need to share their truth, i am glad that Ms. Medina shared hers.
Don't mislabel as disease, all it does it stigmatize these individuals. It is social dysfunctionality due to abnormal cognitive processes. Not all conditions have biophysical factors. Mental problems are common in western cultural due to individuality and lack of family support.
mental illnesses are a disease --- what actually stigmatizes the sufferers is people like you who belittle pain by creating euphemisms &/or blaming them for not being able to function for just having "faulty cognition" --- just because there are some conditions that can be treated with cognitive therapy does NOT mean that mental illnesses in general are NOT diseases --- the existence of one does NOT discount the existence of the other --- many conditions DO have biophysical factors , they ARE diseases ----- also, mental problems are common everywhere , what varies is treatment and just because statistics might show lesser incidence in some regions does not mean there are actually less sufferers, they might not be seeking help, they might not get diagnosed, they might not get proper treatment, they might not live in a place where they can get help , they might not live in countries that can pay attention to keeping track of mental illness on account of having "bigger" problems, they might not x, they might not y ------ so many variables and yet you chose to connect a to z! also what do you mean with "western culture" , what you are ascertaining is a blatant generalization --- there are so many different countries that are western , many with very strong family ties and communal traditions --- the fact that you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist, and people are lucky to be born in countries where diagnosis and treatment are relatively available !! which culture do you think is exempt from mental disease?? how can they be?? they are human too!
hopefully brain scans is the next big step for both mental illnesses, disorders, disabilities etc. Sadly people expect this today otherwise they write mental health of as "non existent". I personally believe we are not some floaty soul with feelings, we have a physical organ with complex patterns and connections, and each person is individual both physically and mentally as those patterns will slightly vary in each one. Some differences are so specific they can be categorised as a neurological disability or disorder, other patterns cause significant lessening in someone's life from birth, or are gained when certain processes are damaged, and they are diagnosed with a mental illness. Trouble is, mental health has been stigmatised for so long, we have only just started seriously researching scientifically what makes us tick. Perhaps we may never truly know the answers as we are analysing ourselves, our consciousness, our instincts and personality. As animals we may never grasp the final 100%, but we can prove mental health with brain scan, just give us time ffs.
It should be labelled as a disease. When people recognise mental illnesses as diseases of the mind (just like flu/cough is a disease of respiratory system), it will remove the stigma. Because then, without the stigma, people will be open about getting medical help for themselves and their loved ones. Mental diseases have so much more to them than just social dysfunction. Trust me, I know because I have suffered and as a doctor I have seen so many others suffering.
During this isolation I’ve suffered from mental illness. I always thought it’s was such a niche subject. I didn’t even know or realize I was suffering. I knew I was sad but not to the extent that I actually was. It almost ruined my relationship with my wife to be. If you’re ever feeling depressed or lost you’re not alone. Don’t feel afraid to reach out for help or seek out a professional to talk to. Mental illness is more common then you think.
Coming to terms with the fact that I've struggled with this for 13 years of my life, and will have to do it for the rest of my life, is really, really hard. It doesn't go away. You can heal and you can cope. But it doesn't go away.
More people like you should speak up great talk... i suffer with depression and comprehension and anger and im still trying to find help its hard... everyone I'd tried cost to much and having a broke pocket will only make a person more depressed... someone that really listens is a game changer for sure...
"Why are you anxious? You act so confident and you have such a good life!" "Why are you depressed? You are so privileged!" "Are you listening to sad music? That might be it" These are all things that ive been told in some way. When you dont understand something, dont pretend you know what it means. I wont get mad if you ask about it or suggest things, but do not tell me you know more about my hurt than I do
I am a fifteen year old high schooler and all of my peers have struggled with depression some time or another and I have seen countless people starving themselves and hurting themselves and when I asked the staff to teach the school about mental illnesses and the effect, they said it wasn't an issue to talk about in groups and it should be tackled individually. People SHOULD NOT be afraid to talk about mental illnesses because doing nothing IS doing something.
I'm really glad she talked about this. I don't suffer from depression or anxiety, but I have symptoms. There are times where I think about how I have so many things others don't have, yet I still experience these negative emotions; I have family (both parents included), an education, friends (even if I only have a couple or few at most at school), food, and a home. But I still feel depressed or anxious at times and hopeless about life. I want to say that if you relate to this, it's not your fault you suffer, and it doesn't mean you're ungrateful or that you shouldn't be going through negative emotions just because you have better living conditions. Mental illness can be caused other than by living conditions. Don't be guilty that you suffer even if you have so much because it's not your fault.
@mikeodee1164 1 minute ago (edited) what many severely sick in the head so called normal people have is one thousand times worse then mentall illness i learned this many times and im not suprised i was severely harmed and several times vcitimized and put in danger by severely sick in the head so called normal people but one hundred percent safe around many mentally ill people threw the years i judge people by their actions and behaviours not their words
“...the 3 in 4 are the crazy ones!” I couldn’t agree more. I get told a lot that the people who aren’t suffering from anything are the normal ones, but if you really sit and think about that, they couldn’t be farther from it. A normal human to me are the people that are capable of adequately processing their needs in life and feelings that present themselves to them. because at the end of the day, that’s the most human thing possible. When we say we don’t have depression or some type of mental illness, we are not looking out for ourselves, because we are looking out for the attribution of the good picture of society, and deterring ever so more the severity that is mental illness, when we really should be making it more of a reality than it is by realizing it. Like if you agree
I totally suffer from mental illness and I have been in various treatments for 10 years now. I loved my DBT group and learned so many things I didn't learn growing up.
I think one of the most beautiful feelings in the world is to feel understood. I think that´s what you get when you attend to these group therapies (plus many other things).
I can very much relate to this. After high school things changed for the worst for me. My whole world changed and I didnt know how to cope. I started hating people and felt depressed and lonely. I had a few panic attacks. I needed to start thinking positively and get into a better environment. After I started these things it became better to take back my life.
Thst was amazing! My daughter was you. I wish I knew! Now I am learning and the tables have turned. I am now experiencing it and this comforting to know it is real and someone else is experiencing the same thing just different stories and severity. Thank you!!!!
Me before suicide attempt: would you miss me if I died? Teacher#1: go home Teacher#2:go home Teacher#3: go home Teacher#4 go home Teacher#5: go home Teacher#6: go home Teacher#7: let's go call your parents sweetheart, you're too valuable
Well it sounds like those previous 6 teachers need to be fired, because teachers are mandated reporters. They have to tell someone if they hear a student talking about suicide or dying, they can’t just let it be.
a lot of peoples reply, not said, is "s/he just wants attention" which is a horrible thing to say even when mental illness is not involved. just don't. There's no shame in wanting conversation, nor in wanting validation, nor in needing help.
Teachers don't care. Maybe they used to... but our school system was designed to make us sheep. Research the Prussian school system... no wonder we're depressed, we are being oppressed by our own teachers and society.
I don't talk about my depression or anxiety anymore. Most people have just decided that I am lazy or just not trying hard enough. If I just smiled more, got out of the house more, counted my blessings more etc.etc. I would be better. They have already judged me and labelled. Hold on please and please seek help and you will heal.
Same here.. but I really cannot get out anymore. I cannot smile, I just lost my 25yr dream career job, and my life's savings and my investment. Total loss. The anxiety is petrifieing, the insomnia and depression. I went for help.. the psychiatrist was a joke. Insensitive and was typing the whole time.. he didn't even understand what I was saying. I then talked to a psychologist. He understood better .. but, im unable to reframe the job loss .. as I am destroyed. I just Cannot let go... I t wasn't all my fault, I could have saved my job! I cannot look forward, or move forward because my future was totally destroyed. With these illnesses .. I can't even imagine one. Hope you're doing better 🙏
I had certain therapist friends who emphasized that each one of us has a fully functioning adult inside us.They pointed to certain examples who were tapping into their rational faculty inspite of suffering from depression or schizophrenia.They said that even if one's disease cannot be healed,one can still live masterfully.The girl in this video shows this wisdom.
I am appreciative that you brought up how high functioning adults suffer from mental illness as well. Not everyone who has a mental illness is a raging killer, rolled up in a ball crying, or cannot go about the routines of life.
One of the bosses I have had over the years told me that 1) speaking to that boss about my depression was "unprofessional" and 2) that, knowing I had depression, I should not have accepted the job in question. With my other employers, I have been quite able to talk about the issue and have even been complimented for doing so. So, a lot of change for the better, but sadly not enough. Thank you for your brave and insightful talk! :)
As someone diagnosed with symptoms of autism, ocd, bi-polar among other things I relate to a lot of things said here. Introverted and also with adhd and depression I want to be social but my mind wants to be alone. After years of therapy medicine etc I’ve beat and learned to live with my disabilities. Today I try to help others with mental illness and mental awareness so they don’t have to suffer what I went through. Or give them the tools to navigate the struggle if they are already going through. You can do it! 👍
Thank you for sharing this, Elizabeth Medina, even if that was scary to do. It sounded amazingly similar to my own life at university. Especially the part about group counseling. It was one of the only things that got me through my worst year; it's such a huge help to have people who will listen to you, encourage you, suffer with you, and not judge you. And it's surprisingly just as helpful to know that other people will allow you to do the same for them. Bueno, que se quede fuerte.
The worst thing about having mental illness is that you can lose your friends so easily. It's hard to understand us for some people, I guess. If I had killed a man, I wouldn't have to handle so much blaming from my so-called best friends, but I just had depression a few times, so I always had to tolerate them telling me I'm hysterical. Right now everything is cool in my life, but I still have it...
Kid: I broke my finger can I sit out today? PE teacher: sure 😄 Kid with anxiety/ social anxiety+: (*whispers to the teacher*)can I come in after school when there is no people so I can do my best and get a good grade?doing this presentation is extremely scary for me. Teacher: (*practically yells so loud china could hear*)everyone gets nervous just go do your presentation! Kid: (*fails the project*) why did I fail? Teacher: you aced everything but your got a 0% on the speaking part because you mumbled it and didn’t make eye contact and read your notes. Kid: -.- ok
You don't need to be a perfect public speaker. Chances are good that if you're a quiet type, you excel in reading and writing as well as maybe analytical thought, which the public speakers may struggle with. I say just read your notes and don't worry about perfection!
People don’t recognize the more obscure, and more importantly “invisible” parts of a person that could disable them from being able to do certain things with valid reason. It’s a shame this happens.
This is so true. My school is very understanding with my anxiety and I have teachers and Staff members who have said something to these teachers after i panic in situations involving presentations and solo speaking. I know that I am very lucky to have these people, and I think more schools should incorporate this idea.
easytoslip i understand and agree with your message, however the point was that we try to be straightforward and do well by being honest still about something we can’t control while getting our work done, and it still doesn’t work in our favor. not that we are nervous because we think we have to be perfect or impress people. but because we have anxiety disorders.
I have the highest level of respect for the young lady giving this speech because I my self have been in and out of a treatment center in Clear Water Fl called Fourwinds Treatment center. I was in the mental health program at the above mentioned treatment center, the best part of the experience was being around fellow patients who were recovering from eating disorders. I feel that being able to whiteness the courage and steadfastness with which these eating disorder patients face and concord their eating disorders has really intrigued me to the idea of becoming a volunteer at a community mental health clinic and maybe even someday an advocate for those who are facing mental illnes with out the help of family members or their family denyies that hey even have a mental illness in the first place.
I feel like some people have said "have you tried being positive?" or equivalent things, and I've had the same reaction. Surprisingly, I had thought of that!
To me. If I face people have depressions or mental issue and best way to support them is give them our ears,no judgement and let them tell out their pain,talk less and listen more,show them you care them in heart and your patience,
What if Hearing Things like '' I'm having a hard time too'' and knowing that other peole have their burdens to carry too, just makes me feel worse? I just Keep Hearing that Little voice in my head, telling me, that everyone manages to get through life so much beetter than me, and how dare I complain. even typing this right now, I feel guilty for saying that I feel horrible, I have not gone through any significant tragedies so I don't feel like I'm allowed to be sad... at the same time I'm really glad I can even type this because I'd never say it outloud ....
i can really relate to that, i felt like that for some time, too. But i thought, it doesn't matter if you "have a right" to feel what you feel or not, but the only way to get better is to accept your feelings and stop feeling guilty for it, because that guilt will only make it harder. It doesn't matter for people who "have the right" to feel bad if you feel guilty or not. So i started focusing on getting better instead of feeling guilty. I know this is easier said than done and it takes time. And after that i realised that all humans should be allowed to feel whatever they feel. I mean who should decide what we are allowed to feel and what not? Anyways, i hope this was at least a little helpful for you, and i hope you feel better soon. If you need someone to talk to feel free to contact me.
I’ve felt like this for years and it got so bad I could barely get out of bed. I lost interest in absolutely everything and was just alive, not really living. Having depression is sooooo hard and the fact that you have it is a struggle in itself. You will get through this and if you ever want to talk dm me on my insta page, messageforhope. I created it to give People a place where they would be heard so I hope you reach out if you want to. You are loved and cared about and please keep fighting if you’re still going through this (I know you wrote this awhile ago but whatever)
This comment really brought tears to my eyes. This is the reason I never talked about my problems, my abuse, my depression, my anxiety, my trauma, my everything. Every time I tried explaining to my parents that I had real issues, not temper tantrums, they would tell me how bad things were for them. Eventually, I shut up and lived in denial even though my problems got worse. Two years into college and I have trouble with basic functioning. It really sucks. Now, I realize how badly I'm broken and how I can't just 'get over it' and 'fix everything'. It is painful.
@@floating_rock172 Hi, so. First off. That's not an okay thing for your parents to do. I hope you know that. If they're not still listening, you might consider talking to a therapist? I don't know where you live and how the inssurance thing there works, but you're a student right? Your University should provide some sort of options for counseling. And the good thing about that is, those people are paid to listen. There's literally no need for you to feel guilty about talking to them, they are getting actual money out of it. Maybe a little cynical but still true. Okay now. I wrote that post when I was 15. Since then, a lot has happened and changed, as it tends to when your a kid. Anyway, I actually did end up talking to people about my issues. Not all of them and not entirely honestly, but still. It felt pretty good, even if it didn't fix anything. I'm considering seeing a therapist, actually. it's fine. Things always tend to turn out alright really. But they do have a tendency to break first. From what you said, it sounds like you can't keep going the way you are, everything will come to a head eventually and wouldn't it be better for you to be in control of how and when it happens? I'm probably a bit younger than you but if you want you can always just talk to me. I've recently discovered that I like people and I want them to be alright. We're two strangers on the internet, life has taught me that we need to either start some random argument or talk about things we'd never tell a real person. So why not give it a try. Either way. I wish you the best. Things got better for me, I don't see why they wouldn't for you.
I have a long list of mental illnesses that include Autism, ADD/ADHD, severe depression, and more. Ever since I was diagnosed at 11, I have told as many people as I can. That way I can slowly start to break the barrier against mental illness and get people to talk about it more.
Keep reminding yourself that THINGS DO GET BETTER. Knowing a lot of people with mental health issues and having struggled with depression myself, I only want to say one thing - never give up on yourself. I made a film for my twin who has been fighting depression, hopefully it will speak to some of you.
Thank you miss Elizabeth. The amount of courage you came to say this was probably very large, so I really am grateful. I want to learn mental illnesses one day, but I dunno if I have one myself. But after going through this video, I think I want to learn more. Thank you.
Beautiful words, and can really relate to your story. I am at a total crossroads with my mental health issues and I NEVER EVER thought I would be here saying all this.
@mikeodee1164 1 minute ago (edited) what many severely sick in the head so called normal people have is one thousand times worse then mentall illness i learned this many times and im not suprised i was severely harmed and several times vcitimized and put in danger by severely sick in the head so called normal people but one hundred percent safe around many mentally ill people threw the years i judge people by their actions and behaviours not their words
Nikita depression is not genetically related. But i see your point. Its true that when you’re diagnosed with mental illnesses (in this case, depression) its not always life events that happened, but also the mind itself.
Going thru a whole lot for a whole lot and I ain't gonna lie I was surprised by this video cuz is the only thing that move me so much for so long...coming from someone who can completely relate
To me, as a mental health Nurse, depression is the curse of the strong! Those who fight, push, struggle on, don't want to stop or take a break, those who berate themselves for not being able to stay this way All. The. Time. It is a terrible illness as it makes you feel like there is no hope; but there is. Hundreds of thousands of people have got through it; and you will too! One day (or even hour) at a time, keep going, you are all doing great!
Psychology and psychiatry are not necessarily that effective because they eschew spiritual realities in the treatment of mental problems. It is possible for someone who believes in Christ to get completely delivered from depression. Compare that with taking antidepressants, which are just a temporary fix, while deliverance can be permanent if the person doesn't backslide.
@@AI-ch3if So true and I completely agree- one person has multiple elements to them and we should never try and "treat" someone by only one method! It should be a holistic, multidimensional approach for that individual based on what is important to them!
I've been depressed for over 50 yrs last 40 yrs sought therapy 30 yrs ago started group therapy meds, I was a bandaid case. I still had minors I was raising; now my children are all grown. The last ten years have been the worst I don't want to die but have no joy living (not to mention) I can't keep up my copays even with assistance. I'm ready to check out but am trying to hang on for two events my granddaughters are having. I've always been open about my mental illness my family not so much. I'm so tired I just want to sleep forever.
I think no one laughed because they got what she was saying. There was nothing angry, nothing condescending. It was personal just right - and yes, very, very serious. Dead serious.
I needed to see this when I discovered this. I told my psychiatrist two days ago, and not for the first time, that I don't want to die but sometimes I am just tired of living. My boyfriend thinks that because I saw my doctor two days ago that I should be fine. My boyfriend asked me why I am so upset, after I told him I was having a rough day. At least the people here get me.
I'll be there for you... but then they don't follow through. So true. Nobody wants to hang out with a sad person. It's depressing. It's like depression is contagious and they don't want to catch it.
Low intensity, low frequency sound directly vibrates neurons in the brain. Consider that annoying hum that bothers you for a while until you fall asleep ... what is it doing to your mind? There are low frequency noises, very faint or very low frequency, that you are not aware of that are influencing your thinking. If you live in an isolated house try switching off the electricity for a few days and tune into the subtle range of natural sounds.
David Peters this is so true! The hum from the Playstation gives me anxiety so I have to unplug it. The hum from the refrigerator does the same, but I can't turn that off. Just have to get away from it. Also, fluorescent lights bother my brain a LOT. You're right, nature helps 100%
This is pretty relatable. Also yes, ellie made a comment that i NEED other people to read before commenting. suffering from mental illnes myself, its HARD. just know that.
"some guy who talked to much" was a very douchy thing to say in vid like this, i know what Its like to have anxios about being annoying and that guy was already in theraphy
i found a lot of her comments, including the "sad person" drawing and repetition of "high functioning" being a better kind of depressed person as insensitive but I understand the purpose of this talk. This is where mental health is, gotta start somewhere I guess...
People who "talk too much" (TTM) are often very disconnected from their feelings and/or are under real threat from someone in their lives either now or in the past. A way to lessen the impact of her statement would be to reframe it as: the guy who shows anxiety through sound. (Some people show it by being fidgety, or increasing a self-soothing behavior or being hyper-vigilant). Some people fill the silence because they have learned that bad things happen to them when there is too much silence. There is another possibility, "white" and "male" behavior can be to dominate the talking space out of the belief that it is their right.
100% agree. Also with the way she made a point of differentiating herself from the ' sweatshirt guy' appearing to judge that example of person whilst simultaneously espousing the virtue of non judgement. I also didn't think It was a particularly helpful or productive talk outside of just listening to someone talk openly about the subject which always has value and raising awareness is positive. She said " I can give you the tools" but didn't really offer much in actionable strategies. Constantly mentioning high functioning seemed off and overall felt like the whole thing was more for her than truly helping others. Also, she wasn't as funny as she thought she was. That said, respect for getting on the stage and respect for finding a way to recover 👏
This Elizabeth Medina ended up way better than the one from the Pit and the Pendulum! Seriously--THANK YOU Elizabeth--your few minutes here will help my cousin.
One book that I wish I read as a child.. a course in miracles. " For the illusion of love will never satisfy, but, it's reality, which awaits you on the other side, will give you everything."
What hurts the most is seeing family members look at me in disbelief, like they can’t believe I became this way. I know I’m sick. You know when you don’t feel right it’s your body. My dad says there’s nothing wrong with me. But it’s easy to say that when you don’t want to put effort in you just push it off. I’m filled with so much depression I’m filled with so much loneliness. I’m so afraid of other people, and their judgment. I haven’t left my room for 6 months but what I mean by that is I haven’t left the house feeling happy and inspired to work inspired to live. I take my dogs out and occasionally I shoot some hoops but really that’s about it. The voice in my head is so loud. I’ve become an enemy with myself. I look at myself, and I don’t recognize myself sometimes. It also doesn’t help that my mother is very mentally abusive, my mother is also very hateful and manipulative, it’s like she enjoys being mean when she gets drunk. But I’m aware that she is also depressed, and her voice in her head is probably louder than mine. That really hurts. My other side of the family is very high class and wants to know every little thing about you. They have secret discussions about me. It’s like as if I don’t exist or they just don’t know what to do with me. It hurts so much not feeling that connection we all had when we were all younger. Idk what it is with me my mind plays tricks I’m a solid looking dude I’m 6,3 idk what it is I just don’t know how to be me. I may be interested in something then bam 5 minutes later the cycle continues In a spiral down this thought train from earth to mars it really seems like an endless terrific roller coaster. I had a wonderful life growing up it was as if life itself was just one big movie, and I was the main character. Everything made sense back then. I would wake up, and run outside to see the sun I would ride my bike down to the store and grab some snacks for school and off we went. Everywhere I went felt like an adventure I had wonderful friends, but inside the house there was zero responsibilities zero rules. No supervision no guidance. My mother always had to work late at the bar and wouldn’t get home until 4:30 she was always too tired and she also drank a lot on the shift. I’m wrapped up in my past because that version of me was so happy and pure and I look at myself now and it hurts so much. I pray I find my way out of this hole I’m in. Everything’s moving too fast my mind doesn’t know how to shut down. I can’t sleep. But I do eat well. My body just doesn’t feel healthy I feel dizzy a lot my eyes have trouble focusing. I’m always sluggish even though I did nothing all day. My arms have become very weak. My right hand has severe nerve damage. Everything has become difficult that involves using my hands. That also triggers the unhappiness and depression because I used to be very athletic and very strong with my hands. It’s been a long journey. I’m sick of losing. I want to live my life. I want to become a man.🥲
Your a wonderful person. You been through a lot of difficulties, hardships and experiences, maybe you feel guilty, please don't blame yourself for everything that happens to you and to your family. Depression, dysthymia or low grade depression is worst than feeling sad or miserable, Your experiences is beautiful. Don't be ashamed of yourself and be Strong. Sometimes all you need is someone who will encourage you and give you support. Stop feeling guilty and stop blaming yourself. We are all human, we commit errors, mistakes and imperfection but always remember that life must go on. Admitting to the public that you have Depression is not easy because public is not widely open, accepted and still a taboos but be proud of your experiences, your struggle is beautiful. We all understand that you experienced life stressful events and it's perfectly normal to feel depressed sometimes but we believe that your strong and you will make it, you will heal and eventually you will surpass your problems in life. Just don't give up on yourself. You can do it. Love yourself and celebrate life.
I just feel like running away. Someplace where I can forget all my f*** ups, all the times I've let other people down. But I don't think there's anywhere far enough. Then everyone is so busy that it would be a burden just to ask permission - to ask if they have time to hear me.
This was well presented, especially the mention of feeling one is to blame for something false. It gets to a point where it feels demoralizing and then only after so long we recover from it and realize it wasn’t our fault in the first place.
What a wonderful, authentic speech! Well done Ms. Medina! I loved your choice of illustrations/examples. 👏 I hope you're doing well with your life after school & depression! Love & blessings from Kenya. 💕 🙏
This issue is so big, we are so misunderstood; my search was "can people tell Im a mental health" because I hate thinking that people can tell... and it makes me feel so embarrassed when it's pointed out how for instance, I talk fast. What came up from this search were a lot of titles along the line of "are you faking your mental health condition" or "are you taking advantage of your mental health for attention" and this coming from so called professionals makes it even more difficult to have a dialogue about it because on top of everything we are being accused of doing it for attention. This video just gave me much needed validation.
Brave! Brava! This subject truly needs discussed openly, and new, healthier, effective ways found to help. Mental illnesses have grown drastically in numbers per population, during the last approximately 60 years, especially the last 20 years. Many of those, were "invisible" in populations, many out of fear of "treatments" available; it's only been recently, that anything close to good treatment has been available at all. But, I suspect the largest rise in numbers, is more related to decreased nutrients / corrupted food, and tens of thousands of man-made chemical compounds, interrupting all our hormones, messing with neurology. WHAT IF all our models are flawed? What if mental ills are related first, to bad Early Childhood Development, and/or any of the traumas the modern world throws at us...and then, compounded by chemicals in our environs, poor nutritional intake, malabsorption, trauma, etc...and if those are resolved, the incidence and severity will plummet? Will the current models practiced, even allow that it can be cured? [Look how hard it has become, for medicine to admit a cure...much less if it was not mainstream treatment which caused it?!] Keep up the good work!
Winter Star or we stay in our comfort zone otherwise being depressed is gona be a trend all all your friends Start running around and screaming: " I HAVE CRIPPLING DEPRESSION END MY SUFFERING" and no one will take people like me serious anymore
+Bob Steins , Do you suggest people might seek to end their lives related to their own chronic depression, as laws get passed allowing euthanasia? That's kind of scary. .Or, you think most people flock to claim whatever's popular in media, even a sad condition? Sometimes, some people do. Or that because so many tend to flock to whatever is a popular, those with actual mental issues will not be taken seriously by medical professionals? Sadly, too many medical professionals discredit people's miseries, which can lead to mistreatment...we All need to be wary of those! Whole developed nation populations, have been so chronically indoctrinated into our mechanistic paradigm, most have forgotten, if they ever knew how, to be really humane/humanistic/supportive of each other, or honest even inside themselves, much less with others.. People in developed countries process information in sound-bites now, instead of really, truly listening and hearing the person speaking...imho, that triggers great sadness and sense of isolation by itself; short attention spans. So, the odds whoever anyone speaks with, not really 'fully hearing' them, are big. Fallout from that is, pseudo-listeners cannot take others seriously. Humans are miraculous to have survived this long, related to how many factors can screw-up 'survival'. ....IF you suffer depression, PLEASE seek help; if the 1st practitioners don't take you seriously, KEEP TRYING TO FIND THOSE WHO DO! There are many compassionate professionals; one doesn't always find them in the initial tries. ....PLEASE REMEMBER: "death is a permanent solution to a temporary situation"; even if one has struggled, even for decades, with untenable situations, those will change. Those can change more quickly, if someone helps us learn better coping skills, and helps us see things from other perspectives. There are multiple ways to perceive anything. With depression, the mind gets stuck replaying closed-loops of thoughts [perseveration?], embedding the pain attached to them deeper, like a car wheel spinning itself deeper in mud; those can be stopped by inserting different thoughts, behaviors, or information...then those stop digging deeper ruts in the mind/emotions, and the depression is lifted. Of course brain chemistry can be imbalanced by strong emotions, ills, injuries, genetics, etc. The current model considers those permanent, and drugs accordingly...which _might_ cause it to be "permanent", because medications are a 'bandaid'...a temporary fix for Symptoms, not the Root Causes. Anyway, please believe, there ARE people who DO take other's cries for help seriously. Though some try to appear so, humans cannot be heartless machines, no matter how hard industries try to make us all be so.
Winter Star I See you are really into this but even if we would find enough good hearted docs and generally human beings alot of depressed people would rather die than telling about their mental issues , besides like in Europe the pharma Industries get a shit ton of money out of people like me and well im sick of this just as much as you seem to be but for my case, im taking the dark road because once im dead the Problem is solved for me. No one gives two suits about my issues so my suicide won't really effect my environment either. Right?
Bob Steins Really into this? Yes. It's personal. I recognize the fatalistic certainty you express. Unless you have such severe physical ills you cannot stand living anymore, I cannot think of ANY circumstance where a suicide has not badly impacted who or what is left behind. From where you sit, you perceive the fixed ideas embedded by the depression process. Those got stuck in your mind _because it's the nature of the beast [illness]_. From decades of experience and observation, there is ALWAYS negative fallout from suicides, both tangible and intangible collateral damages, immediately, and later, involving people the suicide had no way of knowing...because of the nature of the illness. === WHAT might your life look like, in a perfect world? Can you envision what that might be? Can you visualize that clearly enough to _feel_ it? Have you achieved at least some of that? None of that? What's preventing that? I cannot think of ANY circumstance where someone's suicide caused good things to happen.....unless one only counts mercenary gains to heirs. No lie: money, etc. can go a long way towards _distracting_ them from their feelings, but those will still catch them. Except, most who commit suicide, leave not much behind them, but trouble for others. Many say suicide is one of the most selfish things a person can do, usually voiced in anger. A few might think the suicide prevented others from having their debts, or struggling to cope with the sick person; but even that, has negative consequences, perceived from other angles. I speak from 60+ year dealing with various mental ills, in self, family, friends, co-workers, much of it what seemed like intractable depression. Have I felt suicidal? Sure. Sometimes for long periods of time. I know life experiences triggered it [and keep doing it] And, that perseverance, learning, and a laundry list of other techniques, can help relieve it, including: focus on gratitude even for small things, daily; seeking what makes my heart sing, even a little or for a moment; doing what nutritional, etc. things help. Is it perfect? Nope. But....still here. Do those who persevere still have suicidal thoughts? Sure...but don't act on them. Is it worth it? I think so....if I croaked, I might miss something! Death is too easy...the hard part is holding on. One never knows when they might effect something good in the world, somewhere, sometime; if one suicides....that cannot happen.
Winter Star What if the pain is so strong that you can't even gather your thoughts and no Kind of medication seems to ease the pain? Is it still selfish to end it?
This video was very helpful. Showed me that it’s ok to not be ok. Lost my partner to suicide this past year and I wish I knew then what I know now about mental health. I had been diagnosed with my own mental health issues and believed the social stigma that if you had a mental health issue you were crazy. I’m starting to see present day now that it is a real condition that needs to be taken seriously immediately and should not be taken lightly. Please talk to someone before your mental health issue turns into something larger and spirals out of control. I had to learn that it can the in the hardest ways for myself and my partner.
"I didn't want to die but I didn't want to live anymore." I relate to this a lot.
The Angry Mob Yes!! This is how I felt but I couldn't find the words until now
The Angry Mob same :/
try cold showers
The Angry Mob I completely relate to that! does anyone know how to get past that? I really do want to push past
Andrea Claire I wish I knew, I'm stuck in the same numb place
“The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don’t.”
Isn't that from "Joker"?
@@wylier doesn’t matter, someone somewhere with mental illness said it way before a movie character.
Its true, especially if you live in the USA, i would rank the usa as the worst nation to get psychological help, Literally in a caribbean island you can get better mental help, In the USA, All psychologists have a relation with the police for example, you can never trust an American psychologist if you tell them that you’re suicidal, They’ll give you useless medication and often you will find the police questioning you like if you were some sort of criminal, They say the help you in the usa, It’s a lie in the usa they only torture you, I live in usa i travelled to Mexico just to get psychological help (im mexican-american), I travelled all the way to mexico cuz i knew i could trust the psychologists there, So if you want psychological help dont look for it in the usa unless you want the fbi knocking down your door the next morning, Look for it elsewhere.
You're right they do expect you to act like you don't have it in fact it's harder trying to deal with things on your own being fed up with zelle progress no one telling you otherwise so instead you just stop talking how you try so hard to please person that you stopped entirely acting in certain ways try to be so perfect to the point where we you almost barely eat and you barely talk,and it's very hard to just stay calm even though they expect it,but with understanding
Yes, if you have a mental illness, you just need “their” (non-professional and not requested) advice and input, as if it’s the only thing missing in your approach. And that you should just ‘snap out of it”
"why are you depressed? you have nothing to be depressed about. you have a great life." anyone ever get hit with this?
Alexis Brickner Ugh yes. All the time. Mental illness can affect anyone regardless of their life. People who make this type of comment do not understand the weight of their judgement.
I get this so much, and it doesn't even make sense because clinical depression is an inbalance in brain chemicals.
Alexis Brickner i hit myself with that 24/7. I have another voice in my head that always says "your depression is fake, you just want attention. Fake.fake.fake.fake" it's great
TwentyØnePanics!withCryBaby&EdSheeran depression is not fake. if its causing a problem and you have no control over it then its not your fault. please seek out help if you need it, theres no shame in needing help.
"You have anxiety? What do you have to worry about?"
Please learn more about depression before making comments. It is a horrendous illness that can affect anyone whatever their circumstances.
The problem with depression and all other illnesses is that people can´t find out of themselves and what they´re allowed or supposed to feel. And they can´t really talk to anyone about it without being judged or fall victim to prejudice or people´s stupid remarks.
Im only 13 and i suffer from severe depression. its the worst thing that has ever happened to me.
Mya Jane hang in there you have my love and support . You are brave girl
+Mya Jane I genuinely hope things get better, and you will be able to move on with the wonderful life ahead of you...
Mya Jane ok then that's sounds pretty bad have you gotten help yet?
PLEASE DONT JUDGE WHAT YOU'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED. ALSO BEING HOSPITALIZED IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD....ITS HELPFUL SOMETIMES YOU NEED A BREAK
that's the goddamn truth. I've been hospitalized once, and at that moment, it's what I needed more than anything. it was a step away from all forms of stress & positive and negative things in my life. it was painful, but it was a completely FREE place to address a lot of things. you're completely right.
snout and friends !!!! being hospitalised was nice for me alot of time
I'm bipolar, and I've been in five times, plus two rounds of PHP. It was very helpful and quite literally saved my life.
Dog Flamingo : if you haven't had your thyroid checked do, some persons with thyroid issues are incorrectly diagnosed with bipolar
Thank you for your concern, Ella; but I have had a long experience with my disease. While your intention is helpful, it s frustrating when the mention of this is so often met with a comment of, "It could be a misdiagnosis". Considering my other health issues, I've had almost everything checked. While my thyroid does tend to run slightly low, it's not the culprit. It's just what gives me thin hair. I've been symptomatic of bipolar disorder for thirty years.
Max, please don't use the term "crazy" people. It's insulting, and by the definition ii is not even really fitting.
What exactly do you think we're saying it is a break from? It's a break from feeling that you're alone without help from your symptoms, a break from the condition as you get care, and even a break from feeling unsafe from yourself, when you cannot trust yourself with your own safety. When you are suddenly in a safe place, getting treatment from a condition that has been tearing your life apart, it is a huge break.
Telling someone “why are you sad when there is so much to be happy about?” is like telling someone with asthma “why can’t you breathe when there’s so much air?” It didn’t help, and telling someone “ok let’s go talk to tell counselor” instead of listening doesn’t help. No one wants to be sent to some hospital to be viewed like a zoo animal. Everyone just wants to feel “normal”.
I don't have either, but both those questions seem illogical to me.
What does feeling normal feel like, we have so many emotions, but please don't ever give up, find what you feel is normal to you.
You are on point!
yep talking to a counselor is great but its the failure of these offices and people who work in it (not every), I think the approach should done differently, just my opinion
Just like telling an anorexic to "just eat" or a very overweight person to " just stop eating". It goes deeper than that.
"I didn't want to die, but i definitely didn't want to live anymore". I am 41 years old, and I have felt this way everyday for the past 20 + years. I am finally gaining courage to seek help after all these Ted talks I've been watching. Thank you everyone who has spoken about this.
ISMS KL I hope you're in a better place these days!
I hope you’ve asked for help. I know sometimes society will make men feel as though they have to ‘man up’ but that’s certainly not the case! If you need help, get it! It’s worth it in the long run 💕
Stay strong God help me through this and God is helping You too. 💟💟💟
Hey how are you doing??
Being hospitalized isn't necessarily the 'worst thing ever' as so many have it in their minds. Feeling locked up and not in control of your life sucks but gaining the skills and wisdom to live a healthier life is extremely useful. Psych wards will not be as you see in movies, I'm betting. If you can put your responsibilities on hold for two weeks, getting mental health help in the form of being hospitalized might be a good idea if you are struggling hard.
More people need to talk about this. Thank you Elizabeth
Yes. Silence is deadly.
Something about depression/dysthymia/mental illness in general that is the worst is probably the guilt. All these people in these Ted Talks have LEGITIMATE reasons to end up in a downwards spiral and getting depressed, this woman has clearly been through a lot, and while my life isn't cherries and sunshine and I'm rarely happy, I haven't undergone some sort of painful past trauma. And yet I feel this way. It feels wrong. It makes me mad. People have it so much worse, you know? Do I have the right to feel this way? Those intrusive thoughts are probably the worst part of it because you can be depressed and not have a reason. It could be the combination of a dozen small reasons, but nothing specifically. And the guilt kills you.
Jupiter i get you man
@@freyabbent please read my comment. sending you strength xxx
Depression is as common as stars in the sky. You have a network of people that will still support you. Find them and be yourself. Forget the people that tell you that you have no reason. It's always a reason
I think a lot of people are missing the fact that the extrovert ideal came about in the early 20th century with the rise of big business. Solitude is not valued in western culture. Introversion is seen as somewhere between a disappointment and a pathology. So much great art comes from people who value solitude. It's ok to have one friend or none, or a cat for a best friend; the fact that there are memes insulting people who live like this means that there are cruel unenlightened humans in the world, not that that life is inherently bad. You don't need to be like everybody else to have value.
People also miss the fact that energetically we are all connected; probably because in the culture that highly values the physical world, that which is unseen is met with suspicion. Noone needs to be lonely because they are 50 feet from another human in the next home and have been told they need someone in the same room with them always. Now THAT could be seen as neurotic too, needing people around all the time, yet somehow extroversion was elevated to king and people are still believing that as the only truth.
Just because someone hasn't gone through a traumatic experience, doesn't mean that they can't be depressed. Depression doesn't discriminate, it can affect anyone and everyone, no matter their circumstances or past. So many people have mental illnesses, and it doesn't always have to do with if they've had a traumatic experience or not.
"That's not anxiety, you're just a little stressed!" Susan says, handing me a brown bag so I can control my breathing wilst having a panic attack.
Mia Skates who's susan??
ruth_loveSNSD 9IRLS'6ENERAT10N I guess we’ll never know
Also brown bags don't work.
@@traceylamplugh8095 maybe that’s the irony. She thinks she’s helping, when actually she isn’t
@@djn007 I agree!!!!
I gave up trying to explain my depression and anxiety issues to anyone,including my family.Unless they have experienced it themselves they will NEVER understand what it's like and will only look down on you for it like you are behaving that way for attention or pitying yourself.
That's why i regret opening up in the first place. Things were better when i didn't think of taking any step to try to change something. Can't believe i thought that was the worst that could happen.
Thank you for this talk; any person who gets up and talks about mental illness from an honest place is worthy of my time. I'm inspired by the courageous people who do, and I will do more so soon.
She knows nothing about mental illness
Annette Travis how unkind! You own the truth ? Be respectful
@@annettetravis8627 What makes you say that?
"I didn't want to die, but I didn't want to live any more".
Thanks for giving me those words that I was looking for.
Thanks...
If you'd like to talk, just do it. I have been in the same place before. It's not unbreakable💕
What most people don't understand is that most mental illness stays forever, its never gonna go away really it gets better and worse but its never going to be fully healed. "What, you STILL have anxiety?" Well yes, its not like the flue, this actually stays
I’ve always told people to just redirect their bad thoughts into good and now that I’ve started having panic attacks everyday and feeling like nothing matters I feel so bad that I told ppl that
I'm not sure what I was expecting when I signed up for this, but I am blown away by the amount of support this has. Y'all are amazing people. Share your stories. Be kind to one another. Live life in a manner that rewards growth and keep pushing forward.
I do want to clarify that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being hospitalized. I meant this as a moment of reference for people to understand the severity of threat of danger I imposed on my self. From what I've learned through stories shared by my loved ones, hospitals are a great resource and will help you organize, get back on your feet, and more than anything rest and just take a dang breather. Hospitals are a huge help and I am 100% an advocate for them.
If there is one truth I can leave you with it's that self-love and self-compassion are muscles. The more you use them (even if you don't believe yourself at first) the stronger they get. So work out those muscles!!! I believe in you!!!
Elizabeth Medina
GOD bless you sweety I love your open heart. I will not tell anyone I will pray for you. I love you kiddo
Thank you Elizabeth. Wonderful talk. I wish you success and joy in your future endeavors. Sending you healing thoughts and prayers.
F.L.Y. First Love Yourself. Wonderful group on fb called Flying with Scars. Tell then I sent you.
You are amazing
Im so touched by your story. Im a mother of 2 girls that have been diagnosed w depression and anxiety and OCD ..i looked up the ted talk just to see if there is other mothers that are going thru the same as me ..and i came across your talk! There is hope for my girl's as one is a senior and one entering college! Thank you for your courage in sharing!
"Have you tried being more positive?"
From "friends" to my own family, I heard those words!
Thank you for sharing and being brave to stand up and tell your story. You go kiddo!!
Valiant Mickles sweet!:)
This was very good, we really need to start telling the truth.
Bridgett Matthews I can't
That's the first step.
the truth is: our established society is oppressive...
Excellent video
I cannot believe that a beautiful young woman has ever been lonely.
oh lord I hate when people say "well just be more positive try to convert that negative engery into positive energy " and it makes me the angriest but as I'm angry I'm also crumbling on the inside because people just don't understand its not that easy to just "be positive" its way way easier said then done and the time heals part ,over the past 4 years its just gotten worse so I also dislike when people say that
Skye Ratliff yeah, i get you. It gets me too. Every time someone says that i go " sure. I know, like i can think. Really. I can think fine and i have thought of that idea already, but my problem is I can't do it! get it! " in my head. But yeah i can't blame others too.
It often feels like i have no energy at all not even negative, so it doesn't make sense at all what these people say
Q: what type of response are u looking for if u dont likw when people say be positive? I deal with someone close to me that suffer from depression and i say all the time use that negative energy and do something positive.
Being positive and having positive thoughts are habits that when used as a healthy functioning person, can keep you from spiraling into depression. Lazy body+negative thoughts=unhappy person; Active body+positive thoughts=happy person. If you can't do the work yourself to get to that level, functioning point, a therapist or doc can provide the support you need. But once your'e there, practice healthy habits so you don't end up back in that hole!
@@easytoslip From Spain / Barcelona I write to you and I keep your words and advice to copy it on cardboard and hang it in my son's bedroom .... who knows if a few words can be a good medicine ... Thank you !!!
For those who suffer from depression or any mental illness, whether you take medication, go to therapy, both, or nothing, realize that overtime you have developed habits and coping mechanisms that need to be corrected. For this, the best thing I know of (and it's not easy) is CBT Cognative Behavioral Therapy. Basically not only do you need to take medication (depending on the illness and your brain chemistry) but you need to retrain your brain.
And no, I'm not talking about thinking happy thoughts, that's actually very damaging for a variety of mental illnesses, namely anxiety based ones. While you will likely be taught to think more positively along with learning normal coping strategies, that's just a natural process of becoming normal, not a forced "go to your happy place" type thing.
This is not a matter of will, it's exercise and practice. Your brain constantly forms new connections, renews itself. This takes time to exercise new ways of thinking. And you most certainly shouldn't have to do it (or should) by yourself.
Think of it like physical therapy, for your brain. Mental illness are like major damage, and if untreated, it gets worse. The retraining that comes with getting better is therapy to get you back to normal, and it's a step so so SO many people miss. Medication will help train the brain to have the right amount of dopamine, serotonin etc, but it wont take away the habits you've developed and thought process that went along with the illness. Which explains why so many people relapse or don't get that much better.
You can't just put on a brace and sit if your leg is broken. As it heals, you need to get it back in working order. Mental illnesses aren't much different, but they are a LOT more time consuming.
So, know that there is help, and we're constantly finding more out about these illnesses. Ignore if you can the people who say it's about will and that they choose to be happy. It comes from fear most of the time.
Last, for those of you with OCD issues, try SSRI's They're meant for depression, but can greatly help for anxiety disorders. The fact that people expect medicine to fix them is a fundamental misunderstanding of how medicine even works. Very very few things in life are a quick fix and when it comes to mental disorders, it's all about finding the right chemical balance, which is why it can take years to find the right dosage, brand and type of medication that can help. Either way though CBT will help if you take meds or not. But it's HARD. So be prepared.
I found CBT only works when you're on a certain path, and you accept your coping issues and comfort zones are bad and want to escape them. I went through this and before I realised I didn't understand CBT, and I couldn't make it work for me.
This is a good response, but don't discount DBT & medication either. DBT (Dialectical Behavioural Therapy) is great for personality disorders and is very intensive. Medication can help you get to a place where you have the tools to retrain your brain in a way that makes your coping skills healthy and manageable. Thanks :)
Vixx Celacea when making comments no matter how well written, remember CBT isn't the only option, DBT or Dialectic Behavioral Therapy is another option with better results for those who suffer from Bipolar, Addiction, and Trauma there is also EMDR a therapy that can permanently resolve trauma, I encourage everyone to do research, ask which therapy is right for you as no mental illness is the same Remember that there are many options and treatments and combinations thereof Mental Illness is as individual as it is universal, I'm not knocking CBT, I'm encouraging all of us to not give up, to keep exploring,fighting and to Speak up, someone I love said States will never make affordable and effective Mental Health Care a priority and it won't unless we all speak up take action and fight for the healthcare we deserve
Ella M-H DBT saved me, medication for me to a point where I could do the REAL work, and it is work, in addition to Behavioral Disorders DBT is highly effective for people who d udder from types of Bipolar Addiction and PTSD
I'm in such bad place right now and the only person I want to talk to (my best friend) keeps telling me to try not to get upset about things. I know he's trying to help and I understand what he means but it's definitely not that easy and he definitely doesn't understand that. Medication although helpful in getting you through each day doesn't stop your problems from being there. Right now I'm not strong enough. I know I can't be strong but I feel broken and I don't know how to fix it.
I never experienced grief, I never lost a loved one and I never felt lonely...yet I have been living with depression for the past 4 years. The reasons behind mental illness are not always clear, the human brain is way too complex to explain it simply with these factors. In my case, there was no ''triggering element'', which is even a better proof to show that you are never responsible for a mental illness; they are a biological problem caused by neurotransmitters.
Wendee yeah, depression isn't always from emotional trauma, it can be from brain injuries, health problems, and other mental illnesses
I got over mine by listening to a hypnosis video to eliminate hypnotic suggestions. I think it’s inadvertently absorbed into the human brain through songs, news and anything you can see or hear.
I feel you. Eventually take a look at my comment (:
i feel you, i feel the same, but i really don’t know if i have mental illness, and i don’t want to self-diagnose myself with any of it either. i’ve never gone trough the passing of a loved one, never gone trough anything past that traumatic or even close. but i feel as something is very wrong with me. i don’t know, but i feel you.
I suffer from depression. My wife has told me so many times to "just think positive" or "Just feel better". I always tell her "Oh wow!, Thank you for that..."
“I didn’t want to die but I didn’t want to live anymore”...Man that hits home...😢
I have depression. And for the longest time I would say "I'm not depressed" and I would refuse to accept otherwise. But after staying up late, dealing with extreme insomnia, losing interest in the thing I used to love the most, I finally accepted and realized it. One day I literally just sat in my desk chair, staring at the wall with a blank expression on my face but tears just rolled down my face like as if it was raining inside. I even looked up any medications I could take that would stop me from crying so damn much. I was sick of feeling that way, whatever that numb feeling was. I suffer from ADD, Anxiety and depression. And the best way to describe how I feel in those moments of depression when it gets bad is "I feel numb in this kingdom". The lyrics from numbers of Daughter.
God bless you and keeps you strong! 😇
If you see this,
you ARE strong
you ARE capable
you CAN make it
and if you believe you can, then you will.... Sending you all love and good luck on whatever journey it is you are taking, stay positive people ✌️
Telling people to think positive causes damage to anxiety disorders and does not help
If being positive helped people no one would be struggling
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
This made me emotional, I suffer from BPD and I can really connect to her and what she is saying.
Time doesn't heal. She's right. My best friend died 5 years ago and I haven't recovered from that.
It does heal many things.
I have been dealing with a mental illness most of my life for many years I was afraid of judgement and what people would think. Now I have gotten over that I am in the medical profession and I know at work I am not the only one with a mental illness because 1 out of 4 people are diagnosed with a mental illness. I work in a urgent care center.
Actively working to help others, is one way to help take one's mind out of its stuck repeat-loops. Maybe that is why their are such high numbers-per-population of mentally affected persons working in helping professions. Unfortunately, many of those can be really bad at being supportive of those with mental/emotional issues.
Imho, the current paradigm of treating symptoms like they were the illness itself, instead of treating root causes, and dividing treatment of mental/emotional from various parts of the body, almost guarantees people stay stuck/sick/unbalanced.
Yes, I'd say almost all healthcare professionals suffer mental/emotional issues. Too many paste on their 'game face', hoping to get by...fake-it-'til-ya-make-it. Often, it works well enough. Working heavy hours, is another coping skill. The tricks we use to keep going, are legion.
Barbara Errickson
From what do you suffer Barbara?
Winter Star How honest and wise you are ! Thanks !
Exactly ! ""diagnosed""" is the key word here.
It is different to have 1of 4 people DIAGNOSED from ACTUALLY having 1 of 4 with a REAL problem.
Diagnoses are currently more common than...farts !
A friend once told me to "cheer up" and "look on the bright side" it's important for people to remember that everyone's experience is different. For me it was like living in a daze, I don't remember much about the year before I started recovery. Remember there is no "wrong" way to be depressed. It feels different for everyone.
You are SO brave and inspiring - coming from someone who's suffered with crippling anxiety and panic attacks.
Me too. I've really limited my places to go amd even family functions can get me having participatory anxiety and severe panic attacks. It's such a burden sometimes I wonder why I continue to fight. I've had this my whole life and the depression it brings on is horrible. If it weren't for my daughters and grandchildren I wouldn't have made it this far. God Bless you and I'm praying for you ..Lotsa Love
Third world countries don't have access to mental healthcare, counseling or medication. Be thankful for what you have.
I'm in my mid-30's and can say that being isolated and growing up with childhood depression really effed up my adult life. I've missed so many opportunities to connect with professionals as well as potential romantic partners because of debilitating anxiety.
I can completely relate. I went from studying for my BA in Journalism in one of the best colleges in my country to being unemployed and self-medicating to be able to get out of bed and shower. I hope things have improved for you. I'm terrified of never getting over this but at least I can say that I'm trying every day. I even managed to get a part time job this year. It's a million miles away from what I envisioned for myself at this age however I know the suffering I've been through can be turned into a positive...there has to be a higher meaning (as ridiculous as that may sound) to the years of abject misery I've (and indeed we all have) gone through.
Mental illness is real, yes the first step should be brain scans,i have always said that, medication isnt always the answer, the side effects sometimes can be horrible, more needs to be done to help, more people need to share their truth, i am glad that Ms. Medina shared hers.
Don't mislabel as disease, all it does it stigmatize these individuals. It is social dysfunctionality due to abnormal cognitive processes. Not all conditions have biophysical factors. Mental problems are common in western cultural due to individuality and lack of family support.
Yeah mental abuse makes you mental
mental illnesses are a disease --- what actually stigmatizes the sufferers is people like you who belittle pain by creating euphemisms &/or blaming them for not being able to function for just having "faulty cognition" --- just because there are some conditions that can be treated with cognitive therapy does NOT mean that mental illnesses in general are NOT diseases --- the existence of one does NOT discount the existence of the other --- many conditions DO have biophysical factors , they ARE diseases ----- also, mental problems are common everywhere , what varies is treatment and just because statistics might show lesser incidence in some regions does not mean there are actually less sufferers, they might not be seeking help, they might not get diagnosed, they might not get proper treatment, they might not live in a place where they can get help , they might not live in countries that can pay attention to keeping track of mental illness on account of having "bigger" problems, they might not x, they might not y ------ so many variables and yet you chose to connect a to z! also what do you mean with "western culture" , what you are ascertaining is a blatant generalization --- there are so many different countries that are western , many with very strong family ties and communal traditions --- the fact that you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist, and people are lucky to be born in countries where diagnosis and treatment are relatively available !! which culture do you think is exempt from mental disease?? how can they be?? they are human too!
hopefully brain scans is the next big step for both mental illnesses, disorders, disabilities etc. Sadly people expect this today otherwise they write mental health of as "non existent". I personally believe we are not some floaty soul with feelings, we have a physical organ with complex patterns and connections, and each person is individual both physically and mentally as those patterns will slightly vary in each one. Some differences are so specific they can be categorised as a neurological disability or disorder, other patterns cause significant lessening in someone's life from birth, or are gained when certain processes are damaged, and they are diagnosed with a mental illness. Trouble is, mental health has been stigmatised for so long, we have only just started seriously researching scientifically what makes us tick. Perhaps we may never truly know the answers as we are analysing ourselves, our consciousness, our instincts and personality. As animals we may never grasp the final 100%, but we can prove mental health with brain scan, just give us time ffs.
It should be labelled as a disease. When people recognise mental illnesses as diseases of the mind (just like flu/cough is a disease of respiratory system), it will remove the stigma. Because then, without the stigma, people will be open about getting medical help for themselves and their loved ones. Mental diseases have so much more to them than just social dysfunction. Trust me, I know because I have suffered and as a doctor I have seen so many others suffering.
During this isolation I’ve suffered from mental illness. I always thought it’s was such a niche subject. I didn’t even know or realize I was suffering. I knew I was sad but not to the extent that I actually was. It almost ruined my relationship with my wife to be. If you’re ever feeling depressed or lost you’re not alone. Don’t feel afraid to reach out for help or seek out a professional to talk to. Mental illness is more common then you think.
Coming to terms with the fact that I've struggled with this for 13 years of my life, and will have to do it for the rest of my life, is really, really hard. It doesn't go away. You can heal and you can cope. But it doesn't go away.
More people like you should speak up great talk... i suffer with depression and comprehension and anger and im still trying to find help its hard... everyone I'd tried cost to much and having a broke pocket will only make a person more depressed... someone that really listens is a game changer for sure...
It feels good to know im not the only one going through this. life is truly hard sometimes .. it really is.
"Why are you anxious? You act so confident and you have such a good life!" "Why are you depressed? You are so privileged!" "Are you listening to sad music? That might be it"
These are all things that ive been told in some way. When you dont understand something, dont pretend you know what it means. I wont get mad if you ask about it or suggest things, but do not tell me you know more about my hurt than I do
Love the story, if you're reading this and struggle with mental health you got this!
“The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don’t.” Something I’ve heard a lot.
Elizabeth, I have gone through tough times too. PLEASE don't give up, because you just gave me hope 💜
I am a fifteen year old high schooler and all of my peers have struggled with depression some time or another and I have seen countless people starving themselves and hurting themselves and when I asked the staff to teach the school about mental illnesses and the effect, they said it wasn't an issue to talk about in groups and it should be tackled individually. People SHOULD NOT be afraid to talk about mental illnesses because doing nothing IS doing something.
hold your head up high..young lady & be proud...for you will be a light to the ones stumbling in the darkness of depression.
I'm really glad she talked about this. I don't suffer from depression or anxiety, but I have symptoms. There are times where I think about how I have so many things others don't have, yet I still experience these negative emotions; I have family (both parents included), an education, friends (even if I only have a couple or few at most at school), food, and a home. But I still feel depressed or anxious at times and hopeless about life. I want to say that if you relate to this, it's not your fault you suffer, and it doesn't mean you're ungrateful or that you shouldn't be going through negative emotions just because you have better living conditions. Mental illness can be caused other than by living conditions. Don't be guilty that you suffer even if you have so much because it's not your fault.
It takes a lot of guts and courage to lay your inner-self out like that.
A free side of shame and guilt. Omg this hit me hard.
@mikeodee1164
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what many severely sick in the head so called normal people have is one thousand times worse then mentall illness i learned this many times and im not suprised i was severely harmed and several times vcitimized and put in danger by severely sick in the head so called normal people but one hundred percent safe around many mentally ill people threw the years i judge people by their actions and behaviours not their words
“...the 3 in 4 are the crazy ones!” I couldn’t agree more. I get told a lot that the people who aren’t suffering from anything are the normal ones, but if you really sit and think about that, they couldn’t be farther from it.
A normal human to me are the people that are capable of adequately processing their needs in life and feelings that present themselves to them. because at the end of the day, that’s the most human thing possible.
When we say we don’t have depression or some type of mental illness, we are not looking out for ourselves, because we are looking out for the attribution of the good picture of society, and deterring ever so more the severity that is mental illness, when we really should be making it more of a reality than it is by realizing it.
Like if you agree
I totally suffer from mental illness and I have been in various treatments for 10 years now. I loved my DBT group and learned so many things I didn't learn growing up.
My husband is going through this right now. I'm so desperate to get him well again and heal the family
I could not agree and express better! specially betweeen 9:35- 10:10 she made me cry, best depression tedtalk. she was really sincere.
You have to work on your judge of character
I think one of the most beautiful feelings in the world is to feel understood. I think that´s what you get when you attend to these group therapies (plus many other things).
I can very much relate to this. After high school things changed for the worst for me. My whole world changed and I didnt know how to cope. I started hating people and felt depressed and lonely. I had a few panic attacks. I needed to start thinking positively and get into a better environment. After I started these things it became better to take back my life.
As a dominican you make me feel very proud.
Thst was amazing! My daughter was you. I wish I knew! Now I am learning and the tables have turned. I am now experiencing it and this comforting to know it is real and someone else is experiencing the same thing just different stories and severity. Thank you!!!!
Me before suicide attempt: would you miss me if I died?
Teacher#1: go home
Teacher#2:go home
Teacher#3: go home
Teacher#4 go home
Teacher#5: go home
Teacher#6: go home
Teacher#7: let's go call your parents sweetheart, you're too valuable
wish there were some teacher #7 s around here
It's great that you didn't give up and you reached out to teacher #7. i hope that you are feeling better, even though we all still might struggle.
Well it sounds like those previous 6 teachers need to be fired, because teachers are mandated reporters. They have to tell someone if they hear a student talking about suicide or dying, they can’t just let it be.
a lot of peoples reply, not said, is "s/he just wants attention" which is a horrible thing to say even when mental illness is not involved. just don't. There's no shame in wanting conversation, nor in wanting validation, nor in needing help.
Teachers don't care. Maybe they used to... but our school system was designed to make us sheep. Research the Prussian school system... no wonder we're depressed, we are being oppressed by our own teachers and society.
I don't talk about my depression or anxiety anymore. Most people have just decided that I am lazy or just not trying hard enough. If I just smiled more, got out of the house more, counted my blessings more etc.etc. I would be better. They have already judged me and labelled. Hold on please and please seek help and you will heal.
Same here.. but I really cannot get out anymore. I cannot smile, I just lost my 25yr dream career job, and my life's savings and my investment. Total loss. The anxiety is petrifieing, the insomnia and depression. I went for help.. the psychiatrist was a joke. Insensitive and was typing the whole time.. he didn't even understand what I was saying. I then talked to a psychologist. He understood better .. but, im unable to reframe the job loss .. as I am destroyed. I just Cannot let go... I t wasn't all my fault, I could have saved my job! I cannot look forward, or move forward because my future was totally destroyed. With these illnesses .. I can't even imagine one. Hope you're doing better 🙏
I had certain therapist friends who emphasized that each one of us has a fully functioning adult inside us.They pointed to certain examples who were tapping into their rational faculty inspite of suffering from depression or schizophrenia.They said that even if one's disease cannot be healed,one can still live masterfully.The girl in this video shows this wisdom.
I am appreciative that you brought up how high functioning adults suffer from mental illness as well. Not everyone who has a mental illness is a raging killer, rolled up in a ball crying, or cannot go about the routines of life.
One of the bosses I have had over the years told me that 1) speaking to that boss about my depression was "unprofessional" and 2) that, knowing I had depression, I should not have accepted the job in question. With my other employers, I have been quite able to talk about the issue and have even been complimented for doing so. So, a lot of change for the better, but sadly not enough. Thank you for your brave and insightful talk! :)
Well done for having the courage to talk about what you've been through.
Be kind.
For everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.
That's my motto cause I wouldn't wanna mean to anyone who hasn't done mean to me
As someone diagnosed with symptoms of autism, ocd, bi-polar among other things I relate to a lot of things said here. Introverted and also with adhd and depression I want to be social but my mind wants to be alone. After years of therapy medicine etc I’ve beat and learned to live with my disabilities. Today I try to help others with mental illness and mental awareness so they don’t have to suffer what I went through. Or give them the tools to navigate the struggle if they are already going through. You can do it! 👍
Thank you for sharing this, Elizabeth Medina, even if that was scary to do. It sounded amazingly similar to my own life at university. Especially the part about group counseling. It was one of the only things that got me through my worst year; it's such a huge help to have people who will listen to you, encourage you, suffer with you, and not judge you. And it's surprisingly just as helpful to know that other people will allow you to do the same for them.
Bueno, que se quede fuerte.
The worst thing about having mental illness is that you can lose your friends so easily. It's hard to understand us for some people, I guess. If I had killed a man, I wouldn't have to handle so much blaming from my so-called best friends, but I just had depression a few times, so I always had to tolerate them telling me I'm hysterical. Right now everything is cool in my life, but I still have it...
Kid: I broke my finger can I sit out today?
PE teacher: sure 😄
Kid with anxiety/ social anxiety+: (*whispers to the teacher*)can I come in after school when there is no people so I can do my best and get a good grade?doing this presentation is extremely scary for me.
Teacher: (*practically yells so loud china could hear*)everyone gets nervous just go do your presentation!
Kid: (*fails the project*) why did I fail?
Teacher: you aced everything but your got a 0% on the speaking part because you mumbled it and didn’t make eye contact and read your notes.
Kid: -.- ok
You don't need to be a perfect public speaker. Chances are good that if you're a quiet type, you excel in reading and writing as well as maybe analytical thought, which the public speakers may struggle with. I say just read your notes and don't worry about perfection!
People don’t recognize the more obscure, and more importantly “invisible” parts of a person that could disable them from being able to do certain things with valid reason. It’s a shame this happens.
So tru
This is so true. My school is very understanding with my anxiety and I have teachers and Staff members who have said something to these teachers after i panic in situations involving presentations and solo speaking. I know that I am very lucky to have these people, and I think more schools should incorporate this idea.
easytoslip i understand and agree with your message, however the point was that we try to be straightforward and do well by being honest still about something we can’t control while getting our work done, and it still doesn’t work in our favor. not that we are nervous because we think we have to be perfect or impress people. but because we have anxiety disorders.
I have the highest level of respect for the young lady giving this speech because I my self have been in and out of a treatment center in Clear Water Fl called Fourwinds Treatment center. I was in the mental health program at the above mentioned treatment center, the best part of the experience was being around fellow patients who were recovering from eating disorders. I feel that being able to whiteness the courage and steadfastness with which these eating disorder patients face and concord their eating disorders has really intrigued me to the idea of becoming a volunteer at a community mental health clinic and maybe even someday an advocate for those who are facing mental illnes with out the help of family members or their family denyies that hey even have a mental illness in the first place.
I feel like some people have said "have you tried being positive?" or equivalent things, and I've had the same reaction. Surprisingly, I had thought of that!
To me. If I face people have depressions or mental issue and best way to support them is give them our ears,no judgement and let them tell out their pain,talk less and listen more,show them you care them in heart and your patience,
What if Hearing Things like '' I'm having a hard time too'' and knowing that other peole have their burdens to carry too, just makes me feel worse?
I just Keep Hearing that Little voice in my head, telling me, that everyone manages to get through life so much beetter than me, and how dare I complain.
even typing this right now, I feel guilty for saying that I feel horrible, I have not gone through any significant tragedies so I don't feel like I'm allowed to be sad... at the same time I'm really glad I can even type this because I'd never say it outloud ....
i can really relate to that, i felt like that for some time, too. But i thought, it doesn't matter if you "have a right" to feel what you feel or not, but the only way to get better is to accept your feelings and stop feeling guilty for it, because that guilt will only make it harder. It doesn't matter for people who "have the right" to feel bad if you feel guilty or not. So i started focusing on getting better instead of feeling guilty. I know this is easier said than done and it takes time. And after that i realised that all humans should be allowed to feel whatever they feel. I mean who should decide what we are allowed to feel and what not? Anyways, i hope this was at least a little helpful for you, and i hope you feel better soon. If you need someone to talk to feel free to contact me.
I’ve felt like this for years and it got so bad I could barely get out of bed. I lost interest in absolutely everything and was just alive, not really living. Having depression is sooooo hard and the fact that you have it is a struggle in itself. You will get through this and if you ever want to talk dm me on my insta page, messageforhope. I created it to give People a place where they would be heard so I hope you reach out if you want to. You are loved and cared about and please keep fighting if you’re still going through this (I know you wrote this awhile ago but whatever)
This comment really brought tears to my eyes. This is the reason I never talked about my problems, my abuse, my depression, my anxiety, my trauma, my everything. Every time I tried explaining to my parents that I had real issues, not temper tantrums, they would tell me how bad things were for them. Eventually, I shut up and lived in denial even though my problems got worse. Two years into college and I have trouble with basic functioning. It really sucks. Now, I realize how badly I'm broken and how I can't just 'get over it' and 'fix everything'. It is painful.
@@floating_rock172 Hi, so. First off. That's not an okay thing for your parents to do. I hope you know that. If they're not still listening, you might consider talking to a therapist? I don't know where you live and how the inssurance thing there works, but you're a student right? Your University should provide some sort of options for counseling. And the good thing about that is, those people are paid to listen. There's literally no need for you to feel guilty about talking to them, they are getting actual money out of it. Maybe a little cynical but still true.
Okay now. I wrote that post when I was 15. Since then, a lot has happened and changed, as it tends to when your a kid. Anyway, I actually did end up talking to people about my issues. Not all of them and not entirely honestly, but still. It felt pretty good, even if it didn't fix anything. I'm considering seeing a therapist, actually. it's fine. Things always tend to turn out alright really. But they do have a tendency to break first. From what you said, it sounds like you can't keep going the way you are, everything will come to a head eventually and wouldn't it be better for you to be in control of how and when it happens?
I'm probably a bit younger than you but if you want you can always just talk to me. I've recently discovered that I like people and I want them to be alright. We're two strangers on the internet, life has taught me that we need to either start some random argument or talk about things we'd never tell a real person. So why not give it a try.
Either way. I wish you the best. Things got better for me, I don't see why they wouldn't for you.
I have a long list of mental illnesses that include Autism, ADD/ADHD, severe depression, and more. Ever since I was diagnosed at 11, I have told as many people as I can. That way I can slowly start to break the barrier against mental illness and get people to talk about it more.
Keep reminding yourself that THINGS DO GET BETTER. Knowing a lot of people with mental health issues and having struggled with depression myself, I only want to say one thing - never give up on yourself. I made a film for my twin who has been fighting depression, hopefully it will speak to some of you.
Then you get to work and nobody cares.
where is that film?
Thank you for sharing your story, I am also 1 in 4. I believe we need to share our stories to lift each other up.
Thank you miss Elizabeth. The amount of courage you came to say this was probably very large, so I really am grateful. I want to learn mental illnesses one day, but I dunno if I have one myself. But after going through this video, I think I want to learn more. Thank you.
Beautiful words, and can really relate to your story. I am at a total crossroads with my mental health issues and I NEVER EVER thought I would be here saying all this.
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what many severely sick in the head so called normal people have is one thousand times worse then mentall illness i learned this many times and im not suprised i was severely harmed and several times vcitimized and put in danger by severely sick in the head so called normal people but one hundred percent safe around many mentally ill people threw the years i judge people by their actions and behaviours not their words
Me: I'm pretty depressed.
People: What's wrong?
Me: Uh.... depression.....
I mean , When they say what’s wrong , They wanna know the story .. maybe they wanna help you out or maybe they Had experienced these Moments ..
@@Real-ShiZai there might not even be a story. Depression is partly genetic.
U think that's funny
Nikita depression is not genetically related. But i see your point. Its true that when you’re diagnosed with mental illnesses (in this case, depression) its not always life events that happened, but also the mind itself.
@@Real-ShiZai most people don't want to help. They just make moke you or just make it harder.
Going thru a whole lot for a whole lot and I ain't gonna lie I was surprised by this video cuz is the only thing that move me so much for so long...coming from someone who can completely relate
You did a fabulous job young lady!! That was moving, honest, and sincere. 👏 Bravo!
To me, as a mental health Nurse, depression is the curse of the strong! Those who fight, push, struggle on, don't want to stop or take a break, those who berate themselves for not being able to stay this way All. The. Time. It is a terrible illness as it makes you feel like there is no hope; but there is. Hundreds of thousands of people have got through it; and you will too! One day (or even hour) at a time, keep going, you are all doing great!
Psychology and psychiatry are not necessarily that effective because they eschew spiritual realities in the treatment of mental problems. It is possible for someone who believes in Christ to get completely delivered from depression. Compare that with taking antidepressants, which are just a temporary fix, while deliverance can be permanent if the person doesn't backslide.
@@AI-ch3if So true and I completely agree- one person has multiple elements to them and we should never try and "treat" someone by only one method! It should be a holistic, multidimensional approach for that individual based on what is important to them!
I've been depressed for over 50 yrs last 40 yrs sought therapy 30 yrs ago started group therapy meds, I was a bandaid case. I still had minors I was raising; now my children are all grown. The last ten years have been the worst I don't want to die but have no joy living (not to mention) I can't keep up my copays even with assistance. I'm ready to check out but am trying to hang on for two events my granddaughters are having. I've always been open about my mental illness my family not so much. I'm so tired I just want to sleep forever.
a girl from another planet with a big heart and a baggage of bad experiences big ❤️Thank you, you are wonderful
Why was no one laughing when she made jokes? She's really funny XD
A real gem. She needs to stop
Maybe all were dealing with depression
No one laughed bcoz she was being serious, angry, personal and condescending towards the audience.
I think no one laughed because they got what she was saying. There was nothing angry, nothing condescending. It was personal just right - and yes, very, very serious. Dead serious.
Sir Turtle Lord maybe the audio is only from her microphone
The constant gaslighting really does keep me away from saying anything to people so i felt this
I needed to see this when I discovered this. I told my psychiatrist two days ago, and not for the first time, that I don't want to die but sometimes I am just tired of living. My boyfriend thinks that because I saw my doctor two days ago that I should be fine. My boyfriend asked me why I am so upset, after I told him I was having a rough day. At least the people here get me.
I'll be there for you... but then they don't follow through. So true. Nobody wants to hang out with a sad person. It's depressing. It's like depression is contagious and they don't want to catch it.
Low intensity, low frequency sound directly vibrates neurons in the brain. Consider that annoying hum that bothers you for a while until you fall asleep ... what is it doing to your mind? There are low frequency noises, very faint or very low frequency, that you are not aware of that are influencing your thinking. If you live in an isolated house try switching off the electricity for a few days and tune into the subtle range of natural sounds.
Wow, I like this. So true.
David Peters: "tune into the subtle range of natural sounds"
EXCELLENT comment!
EXCELLENT therapy!
That's the blood flow in your ears, and/or the sound of your heartbeat.
David Peters this is so true! The hum from the Playstation gives me anxiety so I have to unplug it. The hum from the refrigerator does the same, but I can't turn that off. Just have to get away from it. Also, fluorescent lights bother my brain a LOT. You're right, nature helps 100%
This is pretty relatable.
Also yes, ellie made a comment that i NEED other people to read before commenting. suffering from mental illnes myself, its HARD. just know that.
"some guy who talked to much" was a very douchy thing to say in vid like this, i know what Its like to have anxios about being annoying and that guy was already in theraphy
I kind of felt off-put by that comment too, but I'd rather she say how she actually felt than lie and pretend that she loved everyone there blindly.
i found a lot of her comments, including the "sad person" drawing and repetition of "high functioning" being a better kind of depressed person as insensitive but I understand the purpose of this talk. This is where mental health is, gotta start somewhere I guess...
No offense but she is egocentric and who cares right? Or hates. Heh.
People who "talk too much" (TTM) are often very disconnected from their feelings and/or are under real threat from someone in their lives either now or in the past. A way to lessen the impact of her statement would be to reframe it as: the guy who shows anxiety through sound. (Some people show it by being fidgety, or increasing a self-soothing behavior or being hyper-vigilant). Some people fill the silence because they have learned that bad things happen to them when there is too much silence. There is another possibility, "white" and "male" behavior can be to dominate the talking space out of the belief that it is their right.
100% agree. Also with the way she made a point of differentiating herself from the ' sweatshirt guy' appearing to judge that example of person whilst simultaneously espousing the virtue of non judgement. I also didn't think It was a particularly helpful or productive talk outside of just listening to someone talk openly about the subject which always has value and raising awareness is positive. She said " I can give you the tools" but didn't really offer much in actionable strategies. Constantly mentioning high functioning seemed off and overall felt like the whole thing was more for her than truly helping others. Also, she wasn't as funny as she thought she was.
That said, respect for getting on the stage and respect for finding a way to recover 👏
This Elizabeth Medina ended up way better than the one from the Pit and the Pendulum! Seriously--THANK YOU Elizabeth--your few minutes here will help my cousin.
One book that I wish I read as a child.. a course in miracles. " For the illusion of love will never satisfy, but, it's reality, which awaits you on the other side, will give you everything."
What hurts the most is seeing family members look at me in disbelief, like they can’t believe I became this way. I know I’m sick. You know when you don’t feel right it’s your body. My dad says there’s nothing wrong with me. But it’s easy to say that when you don’t want to put effort in you just push it off. I’m filled with so much depression I’m filled with so much loneliness. I’m so afraid of other people, and their judgment. I haven’t left my room for 6 months but what I mean by that is I haven’t left the house feeling happy and inspired to work inspired to live. I take my dogs out and occasionally I shoot some hoops but really that’s about it. The voice in my head is so loud. I’ve become an enemy with myself. I look at myself, and I don’t recognize myself sometimes. It also doesn’t help that my mother is very mentally abusive, my mother is also very hateful and manipulative, it’s like she enjoys being mean when she gets drunk. But I’m aware that she is also depressed, and her voice in her head is probably louder than mine. That really hurts. My other side of the family is very high class and wants to know every little thing about you. They have secret discussions about me. It’s like as if I don’t exist or they just don’t know what to do with me. It hurts so much not feeling that connection we all had when we were all younger. Idk what it is with me my mind plays tricks I’m a solid looking dude I’m 6,3 idk what it is I just don’t know how to be me. I may be interested in something then bam 5 minutes later the cycle continues In a spiral down this thought train from earth to mars it really seems like an endless terrific roller coaster. I had a wonderful life growing up it was as if life itself was just one big movie, and I was the main character. Everything made sense back then. I would wake up, and run outside to see the sun I would ride my bike down to the store and grab some snacks for school and off we went. Everywhere I went felt like an adventure I had wonderful friends, but inside the house there was zero responsibilities zero rules. No supervision no guidance. My mother always had to work late at the bar and wouldn’t get home until 4:30 she was always too tired and she also drank a lot on the shift. I’m wrapped up in my past because that version of me was so happy and pure and I look at myself now and it hurts so much. I pray I find my way out of this hole I’m in. Everything’s moving too fast my mind doesn’t know how to shut down. I can’t sleep. But I do eat well. My body just doesn’t feel healthy I feel dizzy a lot my eyes have trouble focusing. I’m always sluggish even though I did nothing all day. My arms have become very weak. My right hand has severe nerve damage. Everything has become difficult that involves using my hands. That also triggers the unhappiness and depression because I used to be very athletic and very strong with my hands. It’s been a long journey. I’m sick of losing. I want to live my life. I want to become a man.🥲
Thank you for sharing. I hope you heal.
Incredible TEDx Talks - good job Elizabeth!!
Your a wonderful person. You been through a lot of difficulties, hardships and experiences, maybe you feel guilty, please don't blame yourself for everything that happens to you and to your family. Depression, dysthymia or low grade depression is worst than feeling sad or miserable, Your experiences is beautiful. Don't be ashamed of yourself and be Strong. Sometimes all you need is someone who will encourage you and give you support. Stop feeling guilty and stop blaming yourself. We are all human, we commit errors, mistakes and imperfection but always remember that life must go on. Admitting to the public that you have Depression is not easy because public is not widely open, accepted and still a taboos but be proud of your experiences, your struggle is beautiful. We all understand that you experienced life stressful events and it's perfectly normal to feel depressed sometimes but we believe that your strong and you will make it, you will heal and eventually you will surpass your problems in life. Just don't give up on yourself. You can do it. Love yourself and celebrate life.
I just feel like running away. Someplace where I can forget all my f*** ups, all the times I've let other people down. But I don't think there's anywhere far enough. Then everyone is so busy that it would be a burden just to ask permission - to ask if they have time to hear me.
This was well presented, especially the mention of feeling one is to blame for something false. It gets to a point where it feels demoralizing and then only after so long we recover from it and realize it wasn’t our fault in the first place.
Her hair is gorgeous!
What a wonderful, authentic speech! Well done Ms. Medina! I loved your choice of illustrations/examples. 👏 I hope you're doing well with your life after school & depression! Love & blessings from Kenya. 💕 🙏
I watched this twice bc 1) it was a really good talk and 2) there's a shadow that looks like a cartoon dog in the background
svnhells yes it does
svnhells oh my god. that's funny. thanks for pointing that out.
Styles: what dog?
This issue is so big, we are so misunderstood; my search was "can people tell Im a mental health" because I hate thinking that people can tell... and it makes me feel so embarrassed when it's pointed out how for instance, I talk fast. What came up from this search were a lot of titles along the line of "are you faking your mental health condition" or "are you taking advantage of your mental health for attention" and this coming from so called professionals makes it even more difficult to have a dialogue about it because on top of everything we are being accused of doing it for attention. This video just gave me much needed validation.
Brave! Brava! This subject truly needs discussed openly, and new, healthier, effective ways found to help.
Mental illnesses have grown drastically in numbers per population, during the last approximately 60 years, especially the last 20 years.
Many of those, were "invisible" in populations, many out of fear of "treatments" available; it's only been recently, that anything close to good treatment has been available at all.
But, I suspect the largest rise in numbers, is more related to decreased nutrients / corrupted food, and tens of thousands of man-made chemical compounds, interrupting all our hormones, messing with neurology.
WHAT IF all our models are flawed? What if mental ills are related first, to bad Early Childhood Development, and/or any of the traumas the modern world throws at us...and then, compounded by chemicals in our environs, poor nutritional intake, malabsorption, trauma, etc...and if those are resolved, the incidence and severity will plummet?
Will the current models practiced, even allow that it can be cured? [Look how hard it has become, for medicine to admit a cure...much less if it was not mainstream treatment which caused it?!]
Keep up the good work!
Winter Star or we stay in our comfort zone otherwise being depressed is gona be a trend all all your friends Start running around and screaming: " I HAVE CRIPPLING DEPRESSION END MY SUFFERING" and no one will take people like me serious anymore
+Bob Steins , Do you suggest people might seek to end their lives related to their own chronic depression, as laws get passed allowing euthanasia? That's kind of scary. .Or, you think most people flock to claim whatever's popular in media, even a sad condition? Sometimes, some people do.
Or that because so many tend to flock to whatever is a popular, those with actual mental issues will not be taken seriously by medical professionals? Sadly, too many medical professionals discredit people's miseries, which can lead to mistreatment...we All need to be wary of those!
Whole developed nation populations, have been so chronically indoctrinated into our mechanistic paradigm, most have forgotten, if they ever knew how, to be really humane/humanistic/supportive of each other, or honest even inside themselves, much less with others..
People in developed countries process information in sound-bites now, instead of really, truly listening and hearing the person speaking...imho, that triggers great sadness and sense of isolation by itself; short attention spans.
So, the odds whoever anyone speaks with, not really 'fully hearing' them, are big. Fallout from that is, pseudo-listeners cannot take others seriously.
Humans are miraculous to have survived this long, related to how many factors can screw-up 'survival'.
....IF you suffer depression, PLEASE seek help; if the 1st practitioners don't take you seriously, KEEP TRYING TO FIND THOSE WHO DO! There are many compassionate professionals; one doesn't always find them in the initial tries.
....PLEASE REMEMBER: "death is a permanent solution to a temporary situation"; even if one has struggled, even for decades, with untenable situations, those will change. Those can change more quickly, if someone helps us learn better coping skills, and helps us see things from other perspectives. There are multiple ways to perceive anything.
With depression, the mind gets stuck replaying closed-loops of thoughts [perseveration?], embedding the pain attached to them deeper, like a car wheel spinning itself deeper in mud; those can be stopped by inserting different thoughts, behaviors, or information...then those stop digging deeper ruts in the mind/emotions, and the depression is lifted.
Of course brain chemistry can be imbalanced by strong emotions, ills, injuries, genetics, etc. The current model considers those permanent, and drugs accordingly...which _might_ cause it to be "permanent", because medications are a 'bandaid'...a temporary fix for Symptoms, not the Root Causes.
Anyway, please believe, there ARE people who DO take other's cries for help seriously.
Though some try to appear so, humans cannot be heartless machines, no matter how hard industries try to make us all be so.
Winter Star I See you are really into this but even if we would find enough good hearted docs and generally human beings alot of depressed people would rather die than telling about their mental issues , besides like in Europe the pharma Industries get a shit ton of money out of people like me and well im sick of this just as much as you seem to be but for my case, im taking the dark road because once im dead the Problem is solved for me. No one gives two suits about my issues so my suicide won't really effect my environment either. Right?
Bob Steins Really into this? Yes. It's personal. I recognize the fatalistic certainty you express. Unless you have such severe physical ills you cannot stand living anymore, I cannot think of ANY circumstance where a suicide has not badly impacted who or what is left behind.
From where you sit, you perceive the fixed ideas embedded by the depression process. Those got stuck in your mind _because it's the nature of the beast [illness]_.
From decades of experience and observation, there is ALWAYS negative fallout from suicides, both tangible and intangible collateral damages, immediately, and later, involving people the suicide had no way of knowing...because of the nature of the illness.
=== WHAT might your life look like, in a perfect world? Can you envision what that might be? Can you visualize that clearly enough to _feel_ it?
Have you achieved at least some of that? None of that?
What's preventing that?
I cannot think of ANY circumstance where someone's suicide caused good things to happen.....unless one only counts mercenary gains to heirs. No lie: money, etc. can go a long way towards _distracting_ them from their feelings, but those will still catch them.
Except, most who commit suicide, leave not much behind them, but trouble for others.
Many say suicide is one of the most selfish things a person can do, usually voiced in anger.
A few might think the suicide prevented others from having their debts, or struggling to cope with the sick person; but even that, has negative consequences, perceived from other angles.
I speak from 60+ year dealing with various mental ills, in self, family, friends, co-workers, much of it what seemed like intractable depression.
Have I felt suicidal? Sure. Sometimes for long periods of time. I know life experiences triggered it [and keep doing it]
And, that perseverance, learning, and a laundry list of other techniques, can help relieve it, including: focus on gratitude even for small things, daily; seeking what makes my heart sing, even a little or for a moment; doing what nutritional, etc. things help.
Is it perfect? Nope. But....still here.
Do those who persevere still have suicidal thoughts? Sure...but don't act on them.
Is it worth it? I think so....if I croaked, I might miss something!
Death is too easy...the hard part is holding on. One never knows when they might effect something good in the world, somewhere, sometime; if one suicides....that cannot happen.
Winter Star What if the pain is so strong that you can't even gather your thoughts and no Kind of medication seems to ease the pain? Is it still selfish to end it?
This video was very helpful. Showed me that it’s ok to not be ok. Lost my partner to suicide this past year and I wish I knew then what I know now about mental health. I had been diagnosed with my own mental health issues and believed the social stigma that if you had a mental health issue you were crazy. I’m starting to see present day now that it is a real condition that needs to be taken seriously immediately and should not be taken lightly. Please talk to someone before your mental health issue turns into something larger and spirals out of control. I had to learn that it can the in the hardest ways for myself and my partner.