It's so refreshing to see a standard cab, 8' bed. I currently have a '15 F250 4wd that's a retired fleet truck. This exact truck is perfect. Basic gas engine, solid 10spd Allison, 8' bed and a standard cab fits my needs. Great video, guys...
@@guamazolopez6456 Yeah, looking back; very poorly phrased reply, wasn't it? I smashed two statements together. My 250 has a good, solid 6.2L with the 6spd auto. Then after that I was referring to the 2500HD, it's 10spd transmission, it's 8' bed, etc.
Looked at exact truck yesterday. West coast Florida. $52,000. 4x4 . The engine doesn't deactivate cylinders. Hope transmission is as strong as a real Allison.
@@shanebrown2963 no because you would ALSO have to make back teh extra maintenance cost, teh DEF cost. my CPM on my LBZ is currently .47/mile (including fuel)
@@duramaxadventures5832 fuel savings alone make diesel an obvious choice. unless you aren't working it for hire. then you recoup the 10k, plus the resale is by far better than a gasser.
@@mikeh4053 it doesnt resale for 10k more, it would also have to recoup the $250 oil changes, and the fuel filters, and the DEF cost ($8/gallon 120mpg def) unless you are hotshot doing 130k mi/yr (in which case medium duty is better) you cannot recoup costs.
Take it on the new Denver 100 for MPG. I would love to see what it will get. Thanks for the explanation at the end. Clears up everything. Been a fan of TFL for years. I enjoy the videos and information and keep Mr Truck in there. Y’all make a great team.
@msclecarcrzy it's not too bad. I have an SLE with 17" wheels, though. Could improve with bigger wheels, but it's an HD truck... they all ride like shit to some degree. Lol
@@BrennanKai94 I hear ya there! I talked to a guy that bought a LT about a year ago and he loved his. Said it rode better than the Ford or Ram. Thanks for the info
Great review of the Chevy Silverado 2500. I am a fan of Diesel engines but I do like having options. But people need to stop hating and griping on those who want to buy a diesel. If someone can afford either that’s their business. As long they take care of it and get good use for what they need it for that’s all that matters. At least Chevrolet has put the 10 speed transmission behind the gas engines. It gives the driver more gearing and better mileage.
That second battery is avalable for the 6.6 gas pending options, fantastic for winching or snow plow applications . There was a time when a reg cab was the norm dont forget.
Haven’t seen Andre so excited..seeing him dance around has woken up the child in me..Txs for another fantastic and exciting video..u guys made my day..xx
Have a 1990 Chevy one ton diesel. It's like 165 hp and 400 lbs of torque. Tops out at 60mph. Still love the old hood emblem. Trucks have come a long way.
Shout out to Flint, MI. Thanks for that. My mom and dad worked there for a combined 63 years of service. My mom helped install the robots that built that truck!
By flow, you mean Andre approaches every truck with neutrality and makes sure to keep Roman from exposing his painfully obvious Ford bias throughout the video.
I would love to see an AT4 or Denali (or Chevy equivalent) 3500 SRW run the IKE with the gas and the new 10-speed. Yes, some of us that buy the upgraded models don’t buy a Duramax.
@@diesel6916 TFL isn't even that big. this is not a big corp. vs. little guy situation. they just wanted credit from him when he uses their branding. people shouldn't be allowed to protect their unique brand?
Great video guys! Really appreciate all TFL does for these reviews. I am looking at a SD with the 7.3L. IMHO, 90% of truck buyers that get an HD/SD could save $ today with a gasser. Also, thanks for how you handled the "controversy". Very professional and truthful as we all expect. You showed yourselves to be mature about it.
Common core math?? It's actually 100% of the people would save money buying a gasser over a diesel... The real question is how many of those people would be 100% satisfied with 1/2 the torque?? I'll stick with the oil burner for reasons that are important to me.
You don't want that 7.3 Godzilla unless you like harsh transmission shifts from New and 10mpg on a good day. Plenty of power to get you from gas station to gas station.
I like how they go very in depth with everything and go over everything. It's like them testing the vehicle and saying this is what they don't tell or show you which is awesome. Great work with everything and it's not too much to ask to say hey contact us first before using any similar content etc. That's awesome how you both were like hey we don't mind collaborations either. You guys are nice and respectful and just ask that in return.
That’s an interesting configuration. Single cab work truck with cloth seats, but has remote start and heated seats/steering wheel haha. I also agree on the styling of these new trucks. I’m so sick of the hoods getting higher and higher just to look “cool”. We have new 1500 silverados for work, and we use them off road. Half the time you can’t see the rocks you’re about to hit because the hood is so dang high…
The hood isn’t just to ‘look cool’. It’s also about safety ratings, the taller front end distributes the force of impact better if you hit a pedestrian.
love that they are keeping 2 door pick up trucks around. And on the LT 2 door configuration you can get the updated infotainment screen and heated seats!
Get them while you can, journalists are going to whine about the lack of space in the cab and the number of guys that like a regular cab are dying off rapidly. The regular cab days are numbered.
I have a 22 model 2500hd gas 6.6 and own a landscape company and pull trailers everyday. Believe or not this truck pulls as good as my 03 Duramax (not modified). Granted we pull short distances but for most people the 6.6 will be all they ever need.
I just bought a crew cab custom. The black bumpers with the white paint looks awesome. No chrome. Also it comes with 20 inch machined aluminum alloy wheels. It's a great looking truck
I absolutely love this review, and the transparency that you fellas bring to the table! Great content as always thank you for being a beacon of knowledge as well as morals and ethics in such a cut throat world!
Love my 2021 HD 2500 4x4 with the 6.6L gas. Threw some timbren bump stops on it and pulls my 14k 40ft long 5th wheel with 0 issues and sits level when pulling it.
I’m really looking forward to seeing you run the Ike with the 24 HD gas engine trucks. With the 10 speeds and these upgraded engines Ford and Chevy are really reducing the use cases where you actually do need the diesel. Even for larger 5th wheels now as RV miles has been demonstrating. Yes the diesel will be faster no question but when you consider all the money you save in both upfront purchase and long term ownership costs I think that’s worth it for a couple of minutes of lost time going up the grade.
I have a 2021 crew cab long bed, Custom trim. It is the best truck I've owned. The 6.6 is a fantastic power plant. I've thought about upgrading, but the price difference is probably a no go for me. Retail is $10k more than what it was in 2021. That 10 speed is going to have to blow me away if im going to part with my hard earned money.
i can tell you from experience , these trucks will clear 35s x 12.50 mounted on Methods and turn lock to lock with no rubbing with zero adjustment to factory suspension even while hanging 1 rear tire in the air. the factory is catching on to what people want , and they made it work. i say methods specifically because they don't have crazy offset. I'm sure many wheels would work but the hub needs to be fairly centered in the barrel / hoop of the wheel.
The current gas trucks are plenty for what the majority of truck owners do. Ford's 7.3 leads the pack in this category. The huge purchase price increase and maitenance increase for diesels really makes them not worth it unless you consistently tow really heavy loads. No clue who the other channel is, but its a bit lame that they refused to just use a different name, or just give credit if using the same name like you guys suggests. You guys have that run down to a science now, and thats the result of a ton of work, so you guys deserve credit for it.
I love my 2022 AT4 6.6 gas and the only reason I'm considering trading it in is to have the 10 speed. You are right, They should of done it from the beginning.
I would have 100% bought it back in 2020 if it came with the 10 speed. Too late now cause i bought a diesel instead but I would like to drive it and see the difference it makes.
I take immaculate care of my 2012 2500HD Silverado Ext Cab, 32k miles, and I love it! I upgraded from my 2009 after they changed the running gear in 2011 to use the 3500HD type on both. I added a bed rug, matching Leer glass cap w/all options, wheel well flairs, rear wheel well liners, full cab Westin boards and window shades. The truck is an LT, and optioned with about everything but leather. I did install leather seat covers. About 1 1/2 years ago, when you couldn't buy an HD truck, a stranger pulled into my driveway and started looking at my truck. He asked about the mileage, I said 32k why!?? He then offered me $45,000 cash for it!! 10 years old, and I paid $42,000 for it, before bolt on options!! About 2 weeks later the local Chevy dealer drove in with the part runner truck. He looks it all over, and offered me $17,000 cash for it. No bueno. It has the 6.0L LS gas engine, 3.71 w/plow pkg/locking rear end and Allison 6 speed. w/360hp 360tq it gets right down the road. We parked our 5th wheel at a seasonal site the year I bought the truck, it's never towed/pulled anything. It's my keeper!! 8) --gary
@@nocturnalspecialties642 I never knew for sure, but I was told by a mechanic that it is the Allison 1000. They got the design when GM owned Allison, and its the same one they put in the diesel trucks. All GM made even after they sold Allison. It was in the sales agreement!?. It works great, and just like Allison's I've driven. I've been very happy with that and the 6.0 LS iron block, either way. 8) --gary
Would've been even better if Chevy would come out with the big block 454 again and have 500hp or more. I LOVE chrome on vehicles. Just makes it look so much better. Even chrome dual exhaust tips'.I like the turn signals near the hood because it reminds me of the 1961 Chevy truck.
Great review. 👍🏻👍🏻 You did all you could do Roman, you did more than most would've done by trying to reach out to them personally. So don't worry to much about it.
Glad you guys put some context into you the other channel in the future. Simply leave a comment for that person to contact you would have most likely sufficed. But still glad you brought up the information
The door sticker is still vin specific. The conventional trailer weight is 14,500 lbs but it also shows a gooseneck rating of 17,370lbs. The tires are typically the limiting factor with Gm on the bumper pull figure.
I want to know how well it feels while towing subjectively, being a bit of a shorter wheelbase and the gas. I drove it's predecessor for a week with the 6 speed and it felt pretty gutless. It's a seriously cool truck. I'd love to put headers and a cam on it too. Regear and run 35s.
Heard these new 6.6 gassers burn through oil faster than the competition?? Anyone have experience with this? I’m thinking of pulling the trigger in one of these.. yes of course lots of factors come into play like how much towing or how hard you’re working the engine but I’m curious now
It's funny people call regular cab trucks stubby, these used to be the norm. A regular cab with either a 6'6" bed or an 8' bed. On another note I can't wait to see the Cummins gasser.
Many ambulances and 1 ton small fire/rescue trucks in my area have switched to gas burners. It was due to several things. Issues with the diesel emissions systems. And budget/cost. With all the increased maintenance acquisition cost, DEF, and fuel costs. They estimated they can replace the gas engine if needed twice and break even.
More ratio is such a positive when it comes to towing. My GMT800 Yukon Denali car had the engine to tow, but the 4 speed transmission could only shift between "calm and collected" and "OMG the engine is going to RPM itself into a pile of piston mcnuggets". No in-between. Now if only I could have this 10 speed in that car.....
My '16 Super Duty has those features in the bed. After 2 failed GM trucks, I'm steering clear of them. Great review though. PS. If you buy one, make sure it's built in Canada! My best vehicles, regardless of brand were made in Canada and ran over 100K miles without even burning out a light bulb!
I do want to apologize to the TFL team. I had a misunderstanding with the whole “Ike Gauntlet” issue. I supported the “other TH-camr” in thinking you guys were trying to say he couldn’t run that pass at all. I now understand it’s only about the terminology and that makes sense to me. I do respect the “other TH-camr” and you guys as well. Thank you for clearing the air on this situation.
Why are the automakers making the grills so much bigger and flatter? TFL mentions fuel economy regarding tire sizes and raising or lowering a truck, but that grill could to be more aerodynamic to aid in better fuel economy as well as viewing over the hood for safety purposes.
An educated guess would be cooling. Towing and hauling numbers over the last 5-10 years have skyrocketed. That's a lot of heat that has to be tended to.
Not a GM fan but i like it and this is all the truck I would need. SD XL with the 6.8 is pushing $47k easily. Lifted and big tires makes a work truck harder to load and unload.
I agree 100% about what Roman said about gasser vs. Diesel HD trucks. Unless you're that small percentage that is driving around close to of not at max payload/towing every day, these new gas trucks will get the job done and cost way less for fuel and maintenance costs.
@@Icutmetal it’s misleading by GM and lazy journalism by the likes of TFL. It only makes a difference if you buy thinking you’re getting something based on the Alison 1000 and 2000 of the past.
I remember the tow test on the ike gautlet of the Ford 7.3 and the 6.6 gm gas engine.. The 7.3 with the 10sp flat out destroyed the 6.6 with the 6sp towing. Even the 6.4 hemi did better than the gm 6.6 gas on that test
I've got a 2006 Duramax LBZ that has never been in the shop for other than owners manual maintenance. Dont know why you say repairs cost more. I hope to get a much greater % in resale for the diesel than if I had a gas 6.0L. New Allison sounds great!
Greetings from 12 time zones away. I am a fan of your channel. We do not have classes of trucks like y'all have there. Jealous here hahaha. Great video as always, thank you!
Need a tow test / mileage review vs Diesel not just a first impression. Ironically the gasser has more towing capability than the diesel in certain configurations i.e, hitch vs 5th wheel. Seems it only really makes sense to get the Duramax if you tow daily or very often.
When you increase the radius of a tire, it now requires more torque from your driveline to turn that larger tire. This generally does not have much of a negative effect on the engine components themselves, although it will now require the engine to work harder to maintain the same speed as before.
Gasoline ⛽️ allways. Chevy trucks are beautiful and drive amazingly. I got a 2019 TAHOE LT, and a 2015 camaro ss manual transmission. I cant imagine life without Chevy V8s
Did chevy get rid of the cylinder deactivation on the HD gas? If so, I would now consider them a viable option, especially with the venerable Alison tranny. I chose a 22 ford with 7.3 gas and 10 speed as it was the best option at the time. Ram remains 3 laps down in a 10 lap race with their pathetic torque numbers at 1500 rpm.
I love this casual videos of cool trucks but the actual driving experience is hard for us to perceive from the screen so it would be nicer if you gave us some rolling shots of the trucks from outside, either by a drone following the truck or film it from another truck. Of course what you talk during the driving is interesting info but the outside view while driving would be a good touch for the video.
Thanks for making this video, I have been waiting for TFL to make an MPG test with the new 10speed mated to the 6.6l Gasser, to see if there is an improvement from the 6-speed. I had been watching the other guy's channel since he had a lot of info and testing using his newly purchased Silverado. I was kind of hoping you guys would do a collab, like "dude I love or hate my truck" kind of thing since he lives in the area. Too bad there was a miscommunication, maybe he can still reach out and things can get sorted out still.
Thank goodness a gasser review. Not everyone needs or wants the cost and issues with the diesel.
Or a loaded 100k dollar truck so sick of these videos
@@corylee2261 true I’ve stopped watching a lot of videos because everything is always highest trim
Or electric…
Nothing is like a nice old diesel ploughing along the road, I like the sound and smell of them.
@@CrimeVid Nothing will push you into bankruptcy faster than owning a diesel truck out of warranty.
It's so refreshing to see a standard cab, 8' bed. I currently have a '15 F250 4wd that's a retired fleet truck. This exact truck is perfect. Basic gas engine, solid 10spd Allison, 8' bed and a standard cab fits my needs.
Great video, guys...
It's allison branded, not actually an allison
allison in a ford? 10 gears in 2015??
@@guamazolopez6456 Yeah, looking back; very poorly phrased reply, wasn't it? I smashed two statements together. My 250 has a good, solid 6.2L with the 6spd auto. Then after that I was referring to the 2500HD, it's 10spd transmission, it's 8' bed, etc.
@@marklion315 Guess they can get away with slapping a good name on a cheap transmission to fool people with badge engineering on transmissions?
@@marklion315 Allison was happy enough to put their name on it because it met their standards.
Nothing will ever beat a good ol V8. Great truck!
😢I am afraid 😨 the V8 days are numbered, horrible politicians
@jamie.666 i know, it's sad. Government has destroyed our society.
Then we need to rebel an number the politician’s days!
Needs a updated 8.1.
nah the goal was always to make em sooo expensive, only the wealthy can afford them.
Looked at exact truck yesterday. West coast Florida. $52,000. 4x4 . The engine doesn't deactivate cylinders. Hope transmission is as strong as a real Allison.
I went to a gas after years of diesel and can’t be happier. Peace of mind plus $10k in my pocket.
Same here, also couldn't be happier.
When you sell your diesel you recoup that 10k unless you beat the shit out your truck.
@@shanebrown2963 no because you would ALSO have to make back teh extra maintenance cost, teh DEF cost. my CPM on my LBZ is currently .47/mile (including fuel)
@@duramaxadventures5832 fuel savings alone make diesel an obvious choice. unless you aren't working it for hire. then you recoup the 10k, plus the resale is by far better than a gasser.
@@mikeh4053 it doesnt resale for 10k more, it would also have to recoup the $250 oil changes, and the fuel filters, and the DEF cost ($8/gallon 120mpg def) unless you are hotshot doing 130k mi/yr (in which case medium duty is better) you cannot recoup costs.
Take it on the new Denver 100 for MPG. I would love to see what it will get. Thanks for the explanation at the end. Clears up everything. Been a fan of TFL for years. I enjoy the videos and information and keep Mr Truck in there. Y’all make a great team.
The new restyled LT i think looks great! New interior and 10 speed auto they upgraded all the right things. I believe this will be my next truck
I think you'll enjoy it. I have a '24 Sierra HD gasser and I zero complaints. The 10 speed was a necessity, in my opinion.
@@BrennanKai94 How is the ride! I will be coming out of a '14 ram 1500.
@msclecarcrzy it's not too bad. I have an SLE with 17" wheels, though. Could improve with bigger wheels, but it's an HD truck... they all ride like shit to some degree. Lol
@@BrennanKai94 I hear ya there! I talked to a guy that bought a LT about a year ago and he loved his. Said it rode better than the Ford or Ram. Thanks for the info
I plan to order a ‘24 GMC 2500 SLT with the 6.6 gas within the next couple of months.
Id love to see some long term testing with this. This is probably the most purposeful new chevy truck you can buy.
I kind of wish they offered a 1500HD like the early 2000s. Would love to replace my 05 Duramax with a more modern gasser.
Oh yeah you can buy, but why..? maybe to watch it rust
I have a 2021 quad cab long bed and it is fantastic.
Great review of the Chevy Silverado 2500. I am a fan of Diesel engines but I do like having options. But people need to stop hating and griping on those who want to buy a diesel. If someone can afford either that’s their business. As long they take care of it and get good use for what they need it for that’s all that matters. At least Chevrolet has put the 10 speed transmission behind the gas engines. It gives the driver more gearing and better mileage.
That second battery is avalable for the 6.6 gas pending options, fantastic for winching or snow plow applications .
There was a time when a reg cab was the norm dont forget.
Haven’t seen Andre so excited..seeing him dance around has woken up the child in me..Txs for another fantastic and exciting video..u guys made my day..xx
Have a 1990 Chevy one ton diesel. It's like 165 hp and 400 lbs of torque. Tops out at 60mph. Still love the old hood emblem. Trucks have come a long way.
Can we just appreciate how smooth Andre was jumping out of that bed
Love the gasser reviews. Diesel has gotten out of my price range and so has the Denali/High Country/Platinum trims.
I feel like everything has increased by a percentage. Unfortunately 15 percent of an already 75k trucks is a lot lol
Shout out to Flint, MI. Thanks for that. My mom and dad worked there for a combined 63 years of service. My mom helped install the robots that built that truck!
You guys just flow together so well, I find it very refreshing 🤠
Thank you for watching.
By flow, you mean Andre approaches every truck with neutrality and makes sure to keep Roman from exposing his painfully obvious Ford bias throughout the video.
@TFLtruck
Oh, wow. A 10 speed transmission. Fords being that for a while now. Back to you, Bob. Thanks, Andre for that riveting story. *Sarcasm*
@@travelinman482 ah so that explains why the 10 speed was a POS
I would love to see an AT4 or Denali (or Chevy equivalent) 3500 SRW run the IKE with the gas and the new 10-speed. Yes, some of us that buy the upgraded models don’t buy a Duramax.
You did the right thing. He didn’t want to be contacted that’s why you weren’t able to. You guys are top notch! Everyone knows that! Keep it up!
I'm looking forward to both a MPG loop and an Ike Gauntlet with this engine/transmission combo.
I've watched the ike video, have they done a mpg loop yet? Cant find it.
10-12 MPG.
The other guy did a great test with his own personal trucks. I am glad you guys brought that up.
They should promote and not crap on the little guy
Who is the other guy?
So what? He ripped off someone's copyright.
@@diesel6916 TFL isn't even that big. this is not a big corp. vs. little guy situation. they just wanted credit from him when he uses their branding. people shouldn't be allowed to protect their unique brand?
@@kohltonclark22 Google TFL net worth 2022 I came up with over $900 million
Great video guys! Really appreciate all TFL does for these reviews. I am looking at a SD with the 7.3L. IMHO, 90% of truck buyers that get an HD/SD could save $ today with a gasser.
Also, thanks for how you handled the "controversy". Very professional and truthful as we all expect. You showed yourselves to be mature about it.
Common core math??
It's actually 100% of the people would save money buying a gasser over a diesel...
The real question is how many of those people would be 100% satisfied with 1/2 the torque??
I'll stick with the oil burner for reasons that are important to me.
You don't want that 7.3 Godzilla unless you like harsh transmission shifts from New and 10mpg on a good day. Plenty of power to get you from gas station to gas station.
@@crockettsummers42the harsh shifts got better once we had 10-15k miles on ours. 15mpg empty, 9-10 towing 10k. I’m impressed. 2023 f350 CC SRW
I like how they go very in depth with everything and go over everything.
It's like them testing the vehicle and saying this is what they don't tell or show you which is awesome.
Great work with everything and it's not too much to ask to say hey contact us first before using any similar content etc. That's awesome how you both were like hey we don't mind collaborations either. You guys are nice and respectful and just ask that in return.
That’s an interesting configuration. Single cab work truck with cloth seats, but has remote start and heated seats/steering wheel haha. I also agree on the styling of these new trucks. I’m so sick of the hoods getting higher and higher just to look “cool”. We have new 1500 silverados for work, and we use them off road. Half the time you can’t see the rocks you’re about to hit because the hood is so dang high…
The hood isn’t just to ‘look cool’. It’s also about safety ratings, the taller front end distributes the force of impact better if you hit a pedestrian.
love that they are keeping 2 door pick up trucks around. And on the LT 2 door configuration you can get the updated infotainment screen and heated seats!
Get them while you can, journalists are going to whine about the lack of space in the cab and the number of guys that like a regular cab are dying off rapidly. The regular cab days are numbered.
@@hochhaul As ugly as they were, those mid 2000s fords with the lengthened single cabs were quite spacious.
I liked those. No idea why ford stopped that design @@TheeAbstractHero
Great video, it's nice seeing cheaper priced gas-powered trucks.
I have a 22 model 2500hd gas 6.6 and own a landscape company and pull trailers everyday. Believe or not this truck pulls as good as my 03 Duramax (not modified). Granted we pull short distances but for most people the 6.6 will be all they ever need.
it was actually cheaper to order my 2024 LTZ 2500 6.6 gas crew cab, than the 1500 ZR2 I originally wanted, prices are absolutely absurd.
In most situations people use their trucks for, gas engines are preferable. The guys even wrote about this is their book “Truck Nuts”
Truck Nuts Book!
I just bought a crew cab custom. The black bumpers with the white paint looks awesome. No chrome. Also it comes with 20 inch machined aluminum alloy wheels. It's a great looking truck
I absolutely love this review, and the transparency that you fellas bring to the table! Great content as always thank you for being a beacon of knowledge as well as morals and ethics in such a cut throat world!
Love my 2021 HD 2500 4x4 with the 6.6L gas. Threw some timbren bump stops on it and pulls my 14k 40ft long 5th wheel with 0 issues and sits level when pulling it.
I’m really looking forward to seeing you run the Ike with the 24 HD gas engine trucks. With the 10 speeds and these upgraded engines Ford and Chevy are really reducing the use cases where you actually do need the diesel. Even for larger 5th wheels now as RV miles has been demonstrating. Yes the diesel will be faster no question but when you consider all the money you save in both upfront purchase and long term ownership costs I think that’s worth it for a couple of minutes of lost time going up the grade.
Thanks for finally reviewing a purpose built man's truck! That truck just want's to get stuff done!
I love my 6.6 gas. It's perfect for what I do.
What do you do?
@@mmr0221 I pull a skidsteer.
@@jacobnolt9512what kind of fuel mileage are you seeing pulling the skid steer? I’m sure it isn’t your highest concern. Still curious
I have a 2021 crew cab long bed, Custom trim. It is the best truck I've owned. The 6.6 is a fantastic power plant. I've thought about upgrading, but the price difference is probably a no go for me. Retail is $10k more than what it was in 2021. That 10 speed is going to have to blow me away if im going to part with my hard earned money.
Certainly a truck worth considering. No DOD or AFM is a plus.
Absolutely ADORE my 2021 CCSB with the L8T gasser. Tows great and ive taken it everywhere.
56K for a single cab work truck is outrageous.
A Ranger is close to 50k now 😂
i can tell you from experience , these trucks will clear 35s x 12.50 mounted on Methods and turn lock to lock with no rubbing with zero adjustment to factory suspension even while hanging 1 rear tire in the air. the factory is catching on to what people want , and they made it work. i say methods specifically because they don't have crazy offset. I'm sure many wheels would work but the hub needs to be fairly centered in the barrel / hoop of the wheel.
you guys have allways done great work for the truck world and keep up the expertise!
For $56,000 it needs a second row lol
Second row passengers must ride out back. It's like first and second class 😆
@@thatdudeinblackshoes 🤣🤣
The current gas trucks are plenty for what the majority of truck owners do. Ford's 7.3 leads the pack in this category. The huge purchase price increase and maitenance increase for diesels really makes them not worth it unless you consistently tow really heavy loads.
No clue who the other channel is, but its a bit lame that they refused to just use a different name, or just give credit if using the same name like you guys suggests. You guys have that run down to a science now, and thats the result of a ton of work, so you guys deserve credit for it.
I love my 2022 AT4 6.6 gas and the only reason I'm considering trading it in is to have the 10 speed. You are right, They should of done it from the beginning.
I would have 100% bought it back in 2020 if it came with the 10 speed. Too late now cause i bought a diesel instead but I would like to drive it and see the difference it makes.
I take immaculate care of my 2012 2500HD Silverado Ext Cab, 32k miles, and I love it! I upgraded from my 2009 after they changed the running gear in 2011 to use the 3500HD type on both. I added a bed rug, matching Leer glass cap w/all options, wheel well flairs, rear wheel well liners, full cab Westin boards and window shades. The truck is an LT, and optioned with about everything but leather. I did install leather seat covers. About 1 1/2 years ago, when you couldn't buy an HD truck, a stranger pulled into my driveway and started looking at my truck. He asked about the mileage, I said 32k why!?? He then offered me $45,000 cash for it!! 10 years old, and I paid $42,000 for it, before bolt on options!! About 2 weeks later the local Chevy dealer drove in with the part runner truck. He looks it all over, and offered me $17,000 cash for it. No bueno. It has the 6.0L LS gas engine, 3.71 w/plow pkg/locking rear end and Allison 6 speed. w/360hp 360tq it gets right down the road. We parked our 5th wheel at a seasonal site the year I bought the truck, it's never towed/pulled anything. It's my keeper!! 8) --gary
That would be the 6L90E transmission not an Allison.
@@nocturnalspecialties642 I never knew for sure, but I was told by a mechanic that it is the Allison 1000. They got the design when GM owned Allison, and its the same one they put in the diesel trucks. All GM made even after they sold Allison. It was in the sales agreement!?. It works great, and just like Allison's I've driven. I've been very happy with that and the 6.0 LS iron block, either way. 8) --gary
@gtr1952 The only allison 1000 behind a gas burner was with the 8.1L engine.
All the 2008+ HD's have the 6L90E, which is far from an allison.
This reminds me of the 8.1 Gassers they used to put in front of the Allisons back in the ‘00s
Ok 👍
Those tires were on my buddies 2022 HD. They were all bald in less than 17000 miles.
Just a bunch guys living my dream job.
Would've been even better if Chevy would come out with the big block 454 again and have 500hp or more. I LOVE chrome on vehicles. Just makes it look so much better. Even chrome dual exhaust tips'.I like the turn signals near the hood because it reminds me of the 1961 Chevy truck.
Great review. 👍🏻👍🏻
You did all you could do Roman, you did more than most would've done by trying to reach out to them personally. So don't worry to much about it.
Glad you guys put some context into you the other channel in the future. Simply leave a comment for that person to contact you would have most likely sufficed. But still glad you brought up the information
Finally! I want to see more on this one, please.
The door sticker is still vin specific. The conventional trailer weight is 14,500 lbs but it also shows a gooseneck rating of 17,370lbs. The tires are typically the limiting factor with Gm on the bumper pull figure.
I would like to know how the four-wheel auto setting effects fuel mileage over two-wheel drive.
I want to know how well it feels while towing subjectively, being a bit of a shorter wheelbase and the gas. I drove it's predecessor for a week with the 6 speed and it felt pretty gutless.
It's a seriously cool truck. I'd love to put headers and a cam on it too. Regear and run 35s.
My pickup is a 2004 and runs well so I’ll keep it. It is a regular cab and has a manual gearbox.
I have a 2022 Silverado 1500 with the new interior and I’ve had nothing but problems! They don’t make them like they used to!
This 6.6 gas is pretty bad ass. It's pretty much a ls3 with a stroker kit.
Love you're reasoning and attitude fellas
Heard these new 6.6 gassers burn through oil faster than the competition?? Anyone have experience with this? I’m thinking of pulling the trigger in one of these.. yes of course lots of factors come into play like how much towing or how hard you’re working the engine but I’m curious now
My buddy only has around 50k miles on his but 0 issues so far
It's funny people call regular cab trucks stubby, these used to be the norm. A regular cab with either a 6'6" bed or an 8' bed. On another note I can't wait to see the Cummins gasser.
Many ambulances and 1 ton small fire/rescue trucks in my area have switched to gas burners. It was due to several things. Issues with the diesel emissions systems. And budget/cost. With all the increased maintenance acquisition cost, DEF, and fuel costs. They estimated they can replace the gas engine if needed twice and break even.
Tip of the cap to Andre jumping out of the bed without any old man noises.. I hurt just watching 😂
More ratio is such a positive when it comes to towing. My GMT800 Yukon Denali car had the engine to tow, but the 4 speed transmission could only shift between "calm and collected" and "OMG the engine is going to RPM itself into a pile of piston mcnuggets". No in-between.
Now if only I could have this 10 speed in that car.....
My '16 Super Duty has those features in the bed. After 2 failed GM trucks, I'm steering clear of them. Great review though. PS. If you buy one, make sure it's built in Canada! My best vehicles, regardless of brand were made in Canada and ran over 100K miles without even burning out a light bulb!
I do want to apologize to the TFL team. I had a misunderstanding with the whole “Ike Gauntlet” issue. I supported the “other TH-camr” in thinking you guys were trying to say he couldn’t run that pass at all. I now understand it’s only about the terminology and that makes sense to me. I do respect the “other TH-camr” and you guys as well. Thank you for clearing the air on this situation.
Thanks for the kind words. Very much appreciated!
Why are the automakers making the grills so much bigger and flatter? TFL mentions fuel economy regarding tire sizes and raising or lowering a truck, but that grill could to be more aerodynamic to aid in better fuel economy as well as viewing over the hood for safety purposes.
An educated guess would be cooling. Towing and hauling numbers over the last 5-10 years have skyrocketed. That's a lot of heat that has to be tended to.
@@wilmarbarrick3194 True, very true. Did not think of that and I tow a trailer a lot.
The front end looks so much better. I might go get one now… just need the mirrors to change next
Not a GM fan but i like it and this is all the truck I would need. SD XL with the 6.8 is pushing $47k easily. Lifted and big tires makes a work truck harder to load and unload.
Great review on the 2500. Also appreciate TFL's transparency regarding the copywrite infringement; however, I never doubted y'all for a second.
Fist in the wind and no sunroof! Two things that I agree with Roman on.
Also agree with the two guys that love trucks comment
I agree 100% about what Roman said about gasser vs. Diesel HD trucks. Unless you're that small percentage that is driving around close to of not at max payload/towing every day, these new gas trucks will get the job done and cost way less for fuel and maintenance costs.
What a beautiful truck the only thing I’d change would be bigger tires and change the exhaust system
Glad they are still making real V-8s
For a work truck, it does have a nice interior.
A few years ago gm told you the 6 speed was the best way to go because of reasons.
Also the 10 speed is not Alison. It has a Alison sticker.
Does it really make a difference? I could give a shit less if it said Fisher Price, as long as it worked.
@@Icutmetal it’s misleading by GM and lazy journalism by the likes of TFL. It only makes a difference if you buy thinking you’re getting something based on the Alison 1000 and 2000 of the past.
Nice truck. Great review. I didn't know that Colorado could be green!
It’s been raining here for weeks.
I remember the tow test on the ike gautlet of the Ford 7.3 and the 6.6 gm gas engine..
The 7.3 with the 10sp flat out destroyed the 6.6 with the 6sp towing.
Even the 6.4 hemi did better than the gm 6.6 gas on that test
I've got a 2006 Duramax LBZ that has never been in the shop for other than owners manual maintenance. Dont know why you say repairs cost more. I hope to get a much greater % in resale for the diesel than if I had a gas 6.0L.
New Allison sounds great!
Greetings from 12 time zones away. I am a fan of your channel. We do not have classes of trucks like y'all have there. Jealous here hahaha. Great video as always, thank you!
I love they added the 10 speed. I kinda miss mechanical gauges, especially on a work truck. Just more software updates to worry about
Thank you for yet another great review
Thank you for watching.
Had several Dmaxx looking forward to my new 6.6L gas have the same power train in my motor home definitely hauls the mail !!
NO DOD. This is a solid engine and trans combo...
The truck sounds great.. and has good power
You can get the option for a second battery on the gas engine.
Yep.
Literally get some 2 gage wire make your own cables and put another battery in it. I have dull batteries in all my trucks even the wife's suburban
@Jordan Wimmer yep put second battery in my '18, 3500HD gasser
Need a tow test / mileage review vs Diesel not just a first impression. Ironically the gasser has more towing capability than the diesel in certain configurations i.e, hitch vs 5th wheel. Seems it only really makes sense to get the Duramax if you tow daily or very often.
Just posted a comment with my recent mpg towing over 1400 miles in my 24 gasser.
Ironically this happens at very specific configurations. In general the diesel will tow more weight and more efficiently if you compare the same trims
Smaller tires meant to more efficiently put the torque down.
Less unsprung mass also means better fuel economy.
When you increase the radius of a tire, it now requires more torque from your driveline to turn that larger tire. This generally does not have much of a negative effect on the engine components themselves, although it will now require the engine to work harder to maintain the same speed as before.
Gasoline ⛽️ allways. Chevy trucks are beautiful and drive amazingly. I got a 2019 TAHOE LT, and a 2015 camaro ss manual transmission. I cant imagine life without Chevy V8s
3:32 The extra height used to bug me until I noticed how low the wheel wells are in the bed 6:11. now I don't mind it.
You know what I like the smaller tires now 🛞 because this truck is already too tall!
Its about time you took your time
My boss has the 6.6 gaser with the 6 speed and its a awesome truck !!
I drove a 2023 Ford HD with the 7.3 gas motor and I was pleasantly surprised!
I've run a regular cab 2011 Ram 3500 for close to 700,000 miles, never missed the rear seat!
Did chevy get rid of the cylinder deactivation on the HD gas? If so, I would now consider them a viable option, especially with the venerable Alison tranny. I chose a 22 ford with 7.3 gas and 10 speed as it was the best option at the time. Ram remains 3 laps down in a 10 lap race with their pathetic torque numbers at 1500 rpm.
Can't wait to see this on the Ike !!
Pretty cool work truck and even nicer scenery. That is the place to live.
Glad to see this. I told my dealer I wanted HD gasser 10 speed AT4x when available.
I love this casual videos of cool trucks but the actual driving experience is hard for us to perceive from the screen so it would be nicer if you gave us some rolling shots of the trucks from outside, either by a drone following the truck or film it from another truck. Of course what you talk during the driving is interesting info but the outside view while driving would be a good touch for the video.
Will do
Thanks for making this video, I have been waiting for TFL to make an MPG test with the new 10speed mated to the 6.6l Gasser, to see if there is an improvement from the 6-speed. I had been watching the other guy's channel since he had a lot of info and testing using his newly purchased Silverado. I was kind of hoping you guys would do a collab, like "dude I love or hate my truck" kind of thing since he lives in the area. Too bad there was a miscommunication, maybe he can still reach out and things can get sorted out still.
I love your channel and I don't ever pay attention to hate mail.
Thanks for the kind words!