Heavy towing with the new Chevy. I have some complaints…
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- Unfortunately it's time for the @Chevrolet ZR2 to move on to its next loan. So in this video we get some heavy towing done with it, and wrap up our final thoughts on the Silverado 2500HD ZR2. The main question of course is would I buy one? And the answer is that if I was in the market for a new truck of this trim level, this would be at the top of my list
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One thing about you, Casey, that I really like and appreciate is the fact that when you make a mistake you own up to it. And not only own it but explain your mistake and the correction you did. And one other thing, your absolute blunt honestly. You don't pussy foot around. Keep up the good work you do. Appreciate you.
This is why getting a review from Casey is ... he pulls no punches and explains in detail why he likes something or doesn't. I hope GM listens to Casey ...
At least give Casey another 3 months to review that truck ... A year if under full Warrantee coverage !!!
Wow Casey, as an engineer, I just went to school on how front end suspensions are designed and which works best in which application as well as which engine type in which application, awesome!!! You’re a great teacher and explained that so well. Thank you!
Miss the days when you could just buy a truck and not an electronics gadget show.
Thanks, Casey, another honest product review.
Right ! I already have a computer phone that screw up all the time & doesn't do what it should! Why do I want a truck giving me the same issues. I want a truck to drive , not be a 2045 space gagit .
Yeah remember the good old days with the best truck commercials..................
Sat there boldly, drivin down the road
looked at the camera and checked on his load
The height of tires, nothing felt wrong
Like a rock
Like a rock, Casey was strong as he could be
Like a rock, he says haters never get to me
Like a rock, he is really something else to see
Like a rock
As he drove the Chevy arrow straight
Unencumbered by the weight of all the gravel and stone
he was proud, he sat tall
Honest above them all
He still believes in his dreams
Like a rock, Casey chargin' from the gate
Like a rock, Silverado carryin' all the weight
Like a rock
Could not agree more!
@@davestevens4263
I agree, but when you are already charging $60K for a truck, why not load it up with another 10K worth of electronics and charge an additional 20 to 30K?
My 90 gmc 1/2 ton is as new of a truck as I would buy for personal use.
I really enjoyed the time you both spent with this truck! Your way of presenting information is thorough and not sales pitches. You give the nitty gritty and point out alot of things that the everyday usage would either benefit from or suffer from from lack thereof. Great job, guys!
GM Please Give it a Long Term Test, Let Casey use it for another Month at Least !
Come on Chevy……”PUT IT BACK! “. Give Casey the 12-volt plug and play. And give Casey a year trial!
Yes it is a Big Deal …12v outlets is Needed in Front/Rear Seats and In Bed
Cheby Cheby, Pleeease.
For those saying to use a USB to 12V cigarette adapter, best check them out. What I saw is they only work on some USB systems, and they only put out 20 watts. That's under 2 amps at 12V...compared to a cigarette plug that puts out 10 to 15 amps. A lot of devices aren't going to come close to running on that USB adapter.
50 amp anderson plugs.. i use 175 amp,, cos i can grab them.. bigger is better.. hate usb crap..
I use 12 volt air compressors. I’d just connect it directly to the battery, no problem. It still shouldn’t have been removed though.
My 2024 has the 12v receiver
If this is supposed to be any type of a work truck then every trade has a bunch of chargers for their tools.
They have already bought 12 volt chargers for their vehicles.
Hey, I’m still waiting for them to bring back vent windows😢
Why? 😂
@@JoshuaOvermanNo A/C?
Yea. And remove power steering as well
No 12v power outlets? Oh Chevy, what were you thinking? I have 4 in my off-roader (plus 2 in the tray) and I use them all. That is seriously crazy and so is the lack of extra switches or even blanking plates where some can go.
I do love the towing assist tech tho, that's great. In the Aussie market, no one buys petrol engines in big pickups, diesel is king here.
But Casey has a point ... if most of the time the truck is on the road and really does not need the power (hp, torque) of a diesel getting a gasoline you just need to fill up with gasoline .. that Diesel requires DEF!
I bought a 2024 2500hd Custom and it has a 12v power outlet..
@@BigFactz66 It was a "Custom"
@bobbyt2657 I'm not sure if it's standard with Custom trims. But i did not want all the extra BS screens and settled for a Custom..
@@BigFactz66 Let's give them what they want and charge them extra !!!!
Remember the truck you’re driving is a promotional review rig! It’s not uncommon for the manufacturer to take all the reviews into consideration as far as options and features to add or things to fix and reconfigure! Sometimes there available on later production numbers or worst case there back on the next model year!
I have an 05 Duramax 3500 single wheel long bed. It has 160,000 miles on it and still quite as the day I bought it the only thing I’ve done with this truck is maintenance and tires. I have a 12,000 pound winch on front with ARB bumper, I’ve put this truck through its paces chained it pulled with it, this was my work truck. Love this truck. It’s never let me down. It’s always done everything I asked it to do. last year I pulled a 30,000 pound trailer up to the ranch. Up Spanish Fork Canyon US 6 up Indian Canyon and 15 miles a dirt road I didn’t win any speed records but I made it there. Love your channel. Thanks.
Yeah i joined the army in 07 but i got discharged after basic because i kept getting a respiratory infection after doing the gas chamber and couldnt breathe right. I was looking into prices for after training had i made it and bought a 3500 dually 4x4 duramax with zf6 for hauling my tractor instead of my 2500 6.5td 4x4
ive found the best tool to get things where needed, done, remembered, planted, paid for, bought,, is a wife..
@@harrywalker968 But they cause at least half of the things that need to get somewhere, remembered, planted and paid for!
Did you go down argile road or did you go to duchesne?
Tweeked 03 in so ca great trucks
I think you guys nailed the quiet part and the gas/diesel part. I own a 2020 with a diesel and don't tow often but when I do I tow long distances, I think half my mileage is towing even though it is likely only 2% of my trips. Distances and the diesel are much quieter for 1200 miles of highway, the gas engine will race at a much higher RPM and is not that enjoyable. Now if I only towed short distances locally I would buy the gas engine in a heartbeat.
Depends on what engine options there are. .. a 6.2L V8 petrol with turbo boost would be the way to go
I hate that all these manufacturers are getting rid of 12v power outlets.
Would be interresting to see if Ford and/or Dodge would give you the chance to prove one of their trucks are better. 😊
The 12V problem is that non-truck people design it and accountants manage the brand. Proof: electric trucks for towing -- major fail.
Boeing is a another example.
Yes, there's probably some junior designer at Chevy who's sitting there thinking "oh 12V is so last century; get with the program"...
I think Hybrid is the way to go. Like what Edison do
Also it's possible that it's just the migration process to obsolecence. After all USB-C can go up to 100W of power so it wont be long before all of the accessories (fridge/compressors etc) start to come with 12V and USB-C adapters. But the cutomer needs to move first or change adoption wont happen...
I think the reason there isn’t one is because of cigarette smoking. I have a 2015 Silverado and it doesn’t even have an ashtray, let alone a cigarette lighter, so no plug in. Now my 2002 Avalanche had a lighter and a plug in. Interestingly the lighter only worked the hole it came in but not the other one.
Considering they left the 12Volt in the WT model, makes no sense why they pulled the 12V socket from the higher trims especially considering the starting price.
Looks like owners are going to have to buy a 120 volt ac to 12 volt dc converter.
@@LTDunltd
LOL! Just wire in an aftermarket 12 volt plug!
But it is really silly of GM to remove it!
@@mahbriggs I suspect if you order the parts from the WT model it might be direct drop in I bet even the wiring is still there
@@JasonKahn
I wouldn't be surprised. But leaving it out certainly is a surprise!
@@JasonKahnBut the interior is different, places where there would have been wiring and the sockets probably don't exist. Why GM thought this was a good move is beyond me and anyone else I have heard talk about this issue.
There's always things to do differently but I totally agree about the plugs. My 2015 Silverado has 3 12v socket plugs & 3 USB plugs. And 1 120v plug in. I even added 2 more USB's (for a total of 5) And I use ALL of them.
"Your" Silverado is equipped amazingly & I'd love to have that trim level. But in today's world, even a bare bones work model truck needs a good mixture of round 12v sockets & USB.
I'm die hard GM & I still agree with Casey, GM do better.
Nice review of features, benefits and drawbacks. These points are what the average buyer would want to know about. (i.e. me).
Glad you didn’t forget to go back and pick Ethan up 😂
Spot on about the diesel vs gas, my boss has a 24 D Max and has a 12k trailer hooked to it 80% of the time, I on the other hand drive a F250 with the 7.3 gas but only tow about 20% of the time, it’s all how you gonna use the truck. The GMs do ride and drive a lot better and the IFS is so much nicer and if you are not off roading a lot that is the way to go. Great video.
whats a ford 7.3 gas, never heard of one?
You're spot on about buying the truck you need. I'm a diesel tech and people ask me why my pickup isn't a diesel. It's because I don't have a use for it. In almost 30 years with that truck, I doubt I have pulled a trailer 30 times.
But I was fueling my Jetta the other day and dude asked why put a diesel in a small car. Fuel economy. But with the current problems and the way gas engines are getting the same FE as my Jetta, it's just not worth it.
@@jerryjerry7561 Ford introduced it a couple years ago, trade name Godzilla,
@@ralphlindberg1299 wow, 2020. must have been asleep.
@@jerryjerry7561 They have a new 6.8L and the 7.3L.
You know if Chevy needs one tested out in Australia I’m here for them!
I guess that this is why Chevy is loaning these trucks to average real world users. To get average real world feedback and hopefully the engineers can make average real world decisions. Very good review Casey.
And that's why GM remains nothing more than "average."
@@AlanSextonVT And neither Ford or Ram are any better. However, what is average? If you add 99+99+99 and average the total you get 99.
Have upfitter switches ever been a Chevy thing? I love them in my Ford. 12 v power outlets are important, for all the reasons you mentioned. I think what you could learn in a month would really be of value to us all. Your review style is excellent.
Another thing Chevy should bring you is the gasoline equivalent.
Chevy/GMC offers upfitter switches. It's a $150 upgrade option that I have.
my 2002 Sierra had blank panels in the dash where switches could be installed so at some point they were there.
Ya, they offer upfitter switch option; most of the HD 2500/3500 trucks i see listed have that option; surprised his didn't; maybe because its ZR2? it includes wiring in the headliner for light bar
3 months .. I would like to see what his wifes experience at the dealer would be like .. then he takes it in !!
'07 Duramax Express Van has several upfitter switches.
The number cruncher strikes again. They must have thought the 12volt wasn't cost effective.
Somebody at Cheby is going to be wailing at the wall of shame. (Movie, Gung Ho. 1986)
You say number cruncher .. I call them bean counters ...
They count every bean and see how few beans they can get away with.
@@bobbyt2657 yep. No extra money for you, but more work!
The 12 volt plug kinda is a big deal because look at how many applications it’s used from construction to police to home owners, hunting, camping etc etc
Sure miss the basic Truck. Just give me a radio, A/C - heater, and would even take crank windows.🛻
I have crank windows
i find it so weird Chevy didn't have 12volt outlets and no blank switches for off-road light and other add ons
Chevy has a kit to install Upfitter switches it replaces the dash panel under the steering wheel and gives you 6 switches. It is a dealer installed option only and cannot be installed at the factory. Nice thing about it is it can be installed in any truck any time and you don’t have to order it with them like you do with ram or fords
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Cig outlets are pretty crappy actually. The plugs always seem to rattle and fall out so they are not the best option for critical loads like a frig. I have converted my refrigerators to use 5521 connectors to plug directly into my power stations and they are completely reliable. That said, you can buy 100 watt USB-C to Cig outlet cable/adapters for less than $10. You can also buy USB-C to 5521 adapters for the same price.
I gotta tell you, Casey, my driving skills went to crap during the lockdowns. I drove OTR, for gawd's sake! Okay, that was decades ago. I drove 7-ton fuel tankers in the Army - which seems like a safe thing to do. I've driven cars and trucks cross country on multiple occasions, and I've braved traffic in large cities on a regular basis. Tulsa, OKC, Dallas/Ft Worth, New Orleans, Orlando, Tampa, Evil DC, Philly, Los Angeles, San Diego, Portland, OR, Denver - I've driven some miles.
Coming out of the lock downs, I've nearly lost my ability to back up, make turns without scraping rubber - it's pathetic. I can't even go to the dump's convenience center and park in frontwards and stay between the lines.
Okay, I am old, but still.
I stopped driving for a few years and it was quite a surprise how much I'd taken for granted when I was driving every day for close to 50 years. Even after driving again for the last 4 years I still find that I have to really pay attention to what I'm doing and those around me much more than before.
Just came across your videos last night. Been fun watching a bunch of em! Then I get an upload right after I sub!
You've got some catching up to do. Have fun!
I also want the gasser now that it comes with the 10 speed.
I liked your front diff & brake discussion. I bought my first 3/4 ton 4x4 in 1978. Of course it had an open differential in the front. In an effort to get closer to a true 4x4 I put a Detroit automotive True Trac in the front. It had a 3.5:1 torque bias. A gear type limited slip that sent 3.5 times the torque to the wheel that was not slipping.
If you want all the stuff you’re asking for add the Alaskan package too. Gives you all the upgrades with 12v socket pre wired with switch for lights etc. 😅
15:55 Almost every modern vehicle has either a gas cap holster or a tab to hang the gas cap tether on the inside of the fuel door so it doesn’t have to hang against the body.
@@arrdubu touché….as long as we can both acknowledge the use of such overarching, blanket descriptors as almost every and most are used ubiquitously to convey an exaggerated truth as opposed to an absolute.
To clarify my point, in my experience, many ICE powered vehicles still have fuel caps, some don’t.
It's sad that I couldn't afford one, let alone do any maintenance on it.😢❤
Love the show and the look at the rest run
I'm sorry I have to disagree on the front suspension talk. There is nothing worse than hitting a pothole with an IFS in a pickup and watching the whole front shaking around. No matter what you do you can't fix that. With the right shocks springs n tires on a solid axle you would change your mind in under 4 seconds! You are, however, slightly correct on the geometry talking points. But with trucks, I can always make a solid axle ride way better than an independent.
I have a TPMS on my camping trailer. It uses one of those 12 volt plugs too.
Nothing touches a Cummins block for strength.
Yes you need head studs for ULTIMATE power. So does a Duramax, but then the Cummins will take MORE cylinder pressure. Not to mention the strength advantage over the Duramax ALUMINUM heads. Plus the fact that the Cummins has ONE head. AND, not to mention the inherent advantages of a straight six for a WORKING engine. Straight sixes ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE heavy trucks for a reason.
The crank bearing surfaces, and ratio of main bearings to cylinder ratio ALONE give the Cummins greater strength. The Cummins wins that 2:1.
IFS is awesome at stock height, can't touch the ride quality. Straight axle for strength, longevity, durability.
Yes I know about SOME of the Cummins 53 blocks. I have one, 435,000 miles on it. Came from Casey's area infact, used HARD in its former life.
Rather have a studed P7100 12 Valve Cummins than ANYTHING but if I HAD to buy a NEW truck I'd get a Phord F350 7.3L gasser.
If I HAD to buy a 1/2 ton it would be a Chebbie 5.3 gas but I would WANT a 3.0L turbo diesel, I'm just SCARED of its longevity.😢
Interesting…. I’ve been driving PUs for over 50 years. Different brands, different sizes, different uses. I am NOT a brand snob. This discussion, here, today, opened my eyes a little. AND, I learned some stuff too. The front suspension discussion added a lot of value and a lot of detailed knowledge for me.
Excellent educational opportunity.!!
Thanks for all you do.
Which power stroke are you talking about adding bolts and head studs to? The new 6.7 HO already has 6 bolts, the thing puts out 1200 pounds of torque and 500hp stock.
I should hate you, Casey. I am 75 and I have been a Ford man for 60 years. Never owned a GM product. But your testing and review on this beast has almost convinced me to admit that GM products are not all that bad. In fact, this one actually impressed me. Now I have to go and wash my mouth out for saying that. Keep up the good work Sir.
The agency I work for just got one. It's a pile... actually qualified for the lemon law. I personally don't like the truck at all. The interior has a ton of room but the seats are so low I can't see less than 20' in front of the truck. They might have gotten better but I'd spare the soap, the one we have is junk.
63 yo die hard ford racer bought first chevy duramax used its now 21 years old. Great truck.
Probably should have switched the GM a long time ago
"I should hate you, Casey" He has a "I hate Casey Labelle" shirt ... then you get to explain to people why !!!
But it might not be safe to wear ... where he lives!
@@cdodge2996my wife is 5’-1” and she can see better out the 2500 zr2 than my 2020 3.0 duramax
I have a couple of boats and people are always trying to help you dock, just as they try and help you back up with a trailer. Drives me nuts. Every time I have been in trouble backing or docking it is because I listened to somebody trying to help.
@@jodie01I have seen plenty of women who can back a trailer better than most men. I just don't understand the Neanderthals that think otherwise
I am a lifelong fan of ford and I am considering getting this truck when it comes out because it is way better than any ford truck I know of
But it does not have those 12 volt power outlets and you would shortly find out you need the damn things
Blank spots for switches would be something that should be there as I already can see their need.
dude lmfao theres a reason no one tows with chevy's, its all ram and ford
@@bobbyt2657 I don’t give a fuck about those power outlets, I just want all the cameras in good drivetrain
@@lmCIoudz around where I live I see plenty of Chevy trucks hauling a lot of stuff in fact I think more than Ford and ram combined
@@nomercygaming5670
Oh, well .. to each his own.
Casey wanted onr for a fridge when he could use one on long hauls. No matter.
Chevy designs and engineers their trucks for grocery shopping events...for your wife and kids.
My Chevy 2/4 ton truck Alaskan packaged truck, I pulled a 53’ car trailer with three cars on it and had plenty of power and with the bigger brakes it also stopped well. It is an excellent truck. I also used a Ford 1ton diesel and the Chevy did better
Seriously good truck review. PS i dont have 100k for a truck.
Casey.. your absolute raw honesty is a breath of fresh air.. love that about you.
Chevrolet should take note.. watch these videos of your, Ethan, and your wife's experience of this truck. And make the changes.
I, too, agree with the issue of the 12v plug-ins.
My old '95 GMC had an actual cigarette/accessory plug in the dash and in the back of the center console.
Though, my '05 subaru outback has them all over (3), and it's basically a grocery getter.
Keep doin what you do..
Casey's honesty is why he has few sponsers but those that he has know that Casey will be a great spokesman for them.
I love my Ram's! But I'm impressed with that truck.
My first ram was a 77 power wagon!! So yes Ram nut.
What amazing technology is in that pickup, I've said it before I'd buy one but budget wise I could only afford 2 tires, great reviews thanks Casey
Two tires! 😂😂
The upfitter switches are $150 factory option and can be field installed. I haven't looked at the upfitter book to see how much work it is.
Usually the dealer will just put it in, seen more than a few With them already installed
If you insist to make a deal on the truck I am sure they would be happy to install them
Also I would get the aux battery with the 2 alternators option as well.....well worth the $500
But then your probably gonna have to order that truck
For a lot of years Ford had really long leaf springs on the F250 4x4 line up of trucks. These trucks rode especially smooth, in town, highway and yes off road. Bump steer was a tiny bit of an issue. Chevy and Dodge ran a much shorter set of leaf springs which made for a very harsh ride.
There was a local suspension shop here, and I was able to spend some time with them one day, before I understood long leaf springs, nor had I driven a long leaf spring pick up before then. I worked for a Bus Mfg and it was suggested that I talk with this local company that had a strong reputation in the industry. The Stone Brothers worked on passenger vehicles up to Heavy Hauler rigs.
The bus mfg was looking at using air ride on the bus and I was to look at all types of suspensions and do a presentation. In the end the company went with front leaf and rear air.
In the meantime I got a big lesson in leaf spring design and use, along with Shackles a very key component. So, I am a huge fan of long leaf suspension, even for Off Road, even though they do require more maintenance.
For $80,000-$100,000 I would MAKE the dealership install 12 volt power sockets.
I have a 2020, 2500 HD and I love it it goes everywhere. Pulls a ton of weight. No problems going no problems stopping.
Hey Casey !! Our Son has a 2024 Z-71 Silverado with same issue with plug-ins for his adaptors too & had to go to WAMART & get the USB to Cigarette plug adapter cable !!! Best Buy has the adapter with 2 outlets !! Is the transfer case 3 speed or just 2 & 4 wheel high speed ??
Great review of the truck and you pointing out the removal of switches and no power out lets is spot on.GM should fire the person that made those changes.
Maybe there was a 12v outlet inside the center console like my GMC has.
I drove a '15 Peterbilt 579 sleeper semi that had a light test mode. The problem with that one is it did not do individual turn signals. And on a semi-truck I believe they are individual circuits, so you could check that 4-ways were working buy not left or right turn separately. That onething alone impressed me on the ZR2 test truck.
I’m a ram guy. I own 11 Ram/dodge pickups. The reality is they al have their issues and short comings and they benefits. People that get hell bent on one brand are small minded in my opinion. I also own heavy equipment and the same rules apply. They all break down, which dealer do you want to deal with? That’s what it comes down to for me. I’ve also owned all diesels for a long long time now, but I’m also ready to own a gas engine they’re cheaper and easier to work on typically.
I agree on the gas I probably tow about 5% of the time. I remember growing up pulling with a ½ ton 6 cylinder you might have to let it cool down after a long grade but you still got there.
One of the great things about getting a tow package is the extra oils and larger radiators.
YOU complaining!? I can’t believe it.
About the quiet discussion of the cabin; I thought Casey was about to plump out: "My wife is quiet" :D :D :D
I had the same thought !
Just bought a 2024 3500 ltz and love it
As someone who uses their truck for work, Pilot Car escort vehicle, I do agree with Casey does need to have the 12 V and or up switches for CB radios lights, and other accessories that we need to do our jobs as work vehicles.
They have upfitter switches this truck just wasn’t optioned with them. The 12v outlet problem isn’t a big deal you can buy a $9 adapter and plug it into the outlet on center console
WHATT!! NO CIGARETTE LITER OUTLET, can' get DUMBER than that. Obviously the person that approved this design had NO clew the amount of accessories that people have for this kind of truck. Another WOKE-er in the department
You can one-hand a lighter in this day and age. Back in the old days, everybody didn't have a lighter, which left matches. I've known people who can strike a match one-handed, but most people aren't that coordinated. Those are matchbook matches. The stick matches, not so much.
Just imagine how nice you could make a late 60's model pickup with a $80,000 - $100,000 budget to restore/modify it. And the nicest part, no electronic gizmos to die in a few years unless you put them in yourself.
USB to 12v (cig. lighter) adapter $10
Yep they have that, BUT it is for low wattage applications. It won't run a refrigerator or lights. 10 watts max.
You can get an 12 volt to usb adaptor but I get what ur saying ,put in the sockets at the build stage great video again lads
Was going to say just that too. Best to just offer it, than require owners to get the boosters/converters for 12V. They often are not very inexpensive. A brief look, some of these are the inverters for existing battery chargers, so best to just offer them IN the cab. Yes, the lower priced devices are likely just the adapter that plugs into the chargers that plug into a wall for charging one's automotive batteries.
Normal USB has only 5 Volt but USB-C has variable volt up to 20 Volt
@@Frank-Thoresen Yes, but one still has to get an inverter/adapter, just to use older stuff that runs off of the typical 12V socket.
@@johnhpalmer6098 Yes it's lazy of the manufacturer to leave out the 12v plug connector. As a computer technician I know how Apple loves adapters. Just terrible.
@@Frank-Thoresen.. the bigger problem is the draw in terms of amps. When you plug in a set of exterior flood/spot lights, even LED powered, they draw a lot of amps and you can practically feel how the 12 V plug warms up over time. A conventional 12V plug can handle heat buildup, but those thin tiny USB plugs that are connected to super thin wires with 5 or 6 strands of copper at most will not be able to handle the amp draw of a lot of accessories such as a fridge or several light bars, an external winch etc.
not necessarily a bash but this system loos really cool but if all you do is watch the cameras on the truck you become a poster child for distracted driving
Goooood morning Casey!
Amazon USB to 12V adapter $7...there might be one in your glove box when you buy your truck...
Great review! And I agree I think you need to be able to do a year review on it see how long those electronics last!
The cigarette power plug is one thing, they should start adding the Bosch/Hella power plug that has been around for 50 years. Its a smaller and much more secure plug.
That or Anderson Power Pole connectors.
GOOD JOB CASEY WELL DONE!!
Friends don't let friends drive "Bow Tie" trucks.
Yup the 12volts are not dead. And a 12 volt that stays on not just a couple of minutes.
Would be cool if they gave you two 12v outlets up front. One hot all the time and one works with the start button.
Great video. As always, Casey speaks his mind about the Chevy and hopefully Chevy is listening.
Very interesting product 🤔 review. Thank you for sharing! 👌
Ugggh! All the technology.😒 As Scotty from the Enterprise said, "The more plumbing you got, the easier it is to stop up the sink".
So is it worth $100,000. to the everyday user?
No 12v is a deal breaker for me..... but so is the price tag😂
I want a brand new truck with no computers aside from fuel injection.
I dare you to use the exhaust brake on a steep decline WITHOUT cruise control. No shot the exhaust brake does anything. I drive one of these Duramax's often.
I’ve driven ford trucks my entire adult life but I have never been that person who is unwilling to drive or buy another brand. Ford definitely has its issues but just like other brands you get used to them or fix them. I believe it’s better to drive what works for than what you’re expected to.
Nailed it!
The upfitter switches are an option. I added them for $150 on my ZR2. One of the 5 switches goes to a wire in the third brake light for roof lights.
I'm glad to hear it tows and tracks so well being IFS, that is Chevy's big differentiator, and definitely a plus on your regular, unloaded miles.
I appreciate and watch every video Casey puts out but have to disagree with his point on the price of this truck. All manufacturers have completely lost touch with the needs of small truck buyers and that includes total cost to buy. So much so that there are numerous TH-cam videos showing how badly these super expensive trucks are backing up on dealer lots. I'd love a new truck, there was a time I could afford one. But no way now, the gadgets adding to the price and the base price all by itself have priced me out. To say that to complain about the price just means you aren't in this truck's market anyway is to miss the point. I WANT to buy, I can afford to buy, but not what they are all insisting upon offering these days. Considering the back-log of unsold pickups and the price cuts being seen on dealer lots, this is a lesson manufactures have failed to learn. There is a large chunk of the market wanting to hand them money and they are failing miserably to provide product to sell to that market. Oh, and HELL YES! on 12volt power outlets! I'd be doing the same as Casey is saying, drilling holes and wiring in after-market to meet the routine needs of frequently used accessories.
Tooo many electronics. Big no fr me.
There's no way in hell that Casey will ever get another GM vehicle to test out for free.
I’m one of those anti IFS guys until I watched this. I’m not partial to any brand, they all have their good and bad. I always figured ifs was a cheap $$$ thing but you changed my mind thanks. I will never go spend 80- to 100k on any vehicle but I am willing to learn and I value your opinion, makes a lot of sense , thanks.
IFS is good for soft roading and road driving but its really lacking in heavy offroad use. the more you flex the more stress is put on the axle shafts
I use to be to but I have a gmc 2015 3500 and have 280000 miles on it and haven’t done anything to the front end yet I beat it a little bit and held up better than any of the other trucks Ford front ends are stronger but wear out faster for normal use
Military Hummers and all side by sides and majority ATVs enter the chat room.
My 2014 Honda Accord Hybrid has the passenger mirror camera for when you engage the passenger blinker. Pretty helpful even just in daily driving!
You have academics designing things they do not use. Anybody that knows trucks should know. this FYI - My F450 has all 3. 110V plug, USB, and 12V roundy. Front lockers are never in a stock tow vehicle.
Ford or Ram are missing the boat here!
USB to 12v adapter. $7 on Amazon
I'm a Ford guy, but the big 4, yeah Toyota too, The trucks are all good and compare the ride to the 80's! New stuff is so comfy. I have the 6.7 (with 3 power sockets) but I'd be better served with a gas engine as its light loading now and short trips.
My cousin has a F-650 pickup, straight from the Dealer .. none of those "extras" .. and later replaced the stock engine with a Cummis 8.3L
@@bobbyt2657 What was the stock, the 429 gas engine? pre 1990's?
@@fastst1 It had a 6.7L Turbo Diesel
@@bobbyt2657 Well that ISC will give a little horsepower/TQ bump for certain.
Casey, I have a 2024 3500 Silverado with upfitter switches. It was a $150 factory or dealer installed upgrade I had them add. It comes prewired for strobe lights too. The wires are in your third brake light wire loom already prewired to the #5 upfitter switch. Other TH-cam videos show how to find these if you want to install strobe lights on your Silverado. Probably also has other hidden features I haven't discovered yet. Enjoyed your real-life review of this truck!
Depending on your trim level ( is yours the new style interior ? ) I gather that the switch assembly is installed in the face of the lower dash below the infotainment centre, however the switch harness is not installed from the switches or at least from the cab into the engine compartment, that the harness is bagged up and thrown into the cab ?. That is what I have been lead to believe and wondered if that was your finding as well assuming you had it ordered from the factory. The other item you mentioned about the wiring for a strobe light, is that in all trucks or is that only part of the snow plow prep package as their is a comment about that on the GM website when looking at the snow plow prep package that also includes the stiffer front torsion bars which not everyone might want as I expect that would degrade the ride a bit if the truck never had a winch or snow plow added. In any event you probably can shed some light on it, if you have the plow prep and what if anything the dealer had to do in order to power up those switches.
@@charlesb4267 Yes, I have the LTZ trim package with the new style interior. And it is true that you need to finish the installation yourself. The switch assembly was installed from the factory, but I had to hook up the switch harness. That was disappointing, but the dealer gave me all the instructions on how to hook it up. However, I couldn't figure out what switch #5 was for. Learned on a TH-cam video that the 5th switch was prewired for a strobe light and that you gained access to wires either through the headliner or by removing the 3rd brake light assembly. You could also tap into that wire under the dash if you wanted to use it for something else. I don't have the plow prep package, so I just assumed that this strobe light wire is preinstalled on all trim levels. The upfitter switches work great though.
@@gregorystewart9523 Thank you for the answers and insight. So hooking up that harness, that must be quite something as don't various items have to be pulled apart on the dash or console to route the harness through the firewall, and once through it is there something special wired on the under hood fuse box to plug into or is this a stand alone harness with its own relays and fuses that connect to a power stud point and ground on or near the engine fuse box?. It seems finding information on how its set up to work is slim to none as any GM factory info I have come across online talks about the older upfitter switch kit that came with its own knee plate I will call it ( by your left knee at the bottom of the dash ). Good to know they ran a wire to the third brake light area and not only if one ordered the plow package. I wonder then if once the harness was installed that one of those switches could be used to power up a 12 volt socket although where to mount the socket would be the next issue. It would be nice if they put the option of ordering that on their website, how did you even know it existed to go about ordering that option through the dealer ?
@@charlesb4267 I ordered the truck last fall and don't remember for sure how I saw you could order the upfitter switches. I may have just saw it listed as an option when building my truck. I'm a fairly good mechanic and enjoy working on vehicles, so having to hook everything up wasn't that hard for me. It was more of an irritation that they didn't complete the installation at the factory. Yes, the upfitter switches could easily power a 12 volt socket. The harness comes with the relays already installed, and a fuse block. Everything just plugs in. The hardest thing is getting the wiring harness through the firewall. The hole and grommet are already there, the difficult part is reaching it if you're not very flexible. They definitely could have made it easier, but now that it is all hooked up, I am completely satisfied with it. Finding the right TH-cam videos helped a lot.
@@gregorystewart9523Its almost as if GM is hiding the option from the general public as per the website "pick your options" information, where as Ford and Ram have that option within their list of online options and as far as I know those companies install the upfitter system at the factory. Very odd why GM is handling it this way and then in some cases its the dealership that gets the work to install it and charge back the customer, I came across one comment from a Canadian on a forum ( I am in Canada ) that his dealership was going to charge him 4 hours labour at around 200.00 an hour and I am guessing once one has gone through the motions and know the moves it won't take near that long.
That's why I'm glad my soccer mom van has 6 of those 12volt outlets from the factory. You're dead on about this though. Maybe in there numbskull thinking that they got rid of the cigarette lighter they did away with those outlets. They're thinking more like office people and A LOT LESS LIKE NORMAL EVERYDAY CONSUMERS FOR SURE!
The problem I had with Chevy is the lack of making me a deal when I bought new. Naturally the tried upselling me when I bought my RAM, I don't haul or pull a load so a 1500 with Hemi is fine by me. I went for the 2020 Classic in Warlock trim since its me by myself 90% of the time and I loathe crown anything. Lastly Chevy offered me $2500 off...RAM gave me $8000..........
Casey, Maybe I missed it... did you have the truck in Tow/Haul mode?
As for the power outlets; hello, GM! Whoever the penny-pincher was who decided the 12-volt power outlet was unnecessary needs to be terminated! Save money by not employing fools!
Thanks, Casey! I purchased my 2022 Silverado 1500 RST in May of 2022. That truck also arrived without any 12-volt power outlets! The dealer was useless too; they had no idea that the truck didn't come with power outlets! They had no suggestions for adding one either! Ridiculous!
I'd never, NEVER pay 80k+ for a truck. Even if I had the cash to throw at it. I also hate all the electronics on new vehicles. Personally I'd take half that amount, pick up a mid 90's truck (probably dodge because I like the body style better) and then fully resto mod it to new condition. I'm a big fan of the 6bt cummins. So start with a 95 Dodge 2500, build it to my personal specs. Would cost half that of a new truck, but even if it cost the same as a new truck, I'd still have a more reliable truck than ANYTHING on the market today.
Nice real world review. One option regarding the lack of 12-volt ports is to plug a $20 120-12 volt converter into either the plug socket in the back seat area or the truck's bed.
What?????! No 12v power ports? In my 2012 GMC, I usually have an old Garmin GPS, two laptops, amber rooftop strobe, two way radio charger and survey equipment charger not to mention charger for my SLR digital camera. I literally could not do my job out of that truck. Sad!
I had a rental 2024 DMax while my Cummins was as in for warranty issues, I’m heavily looking at the DMax. It towed awesome and got great mileage. I think you are wrong with the 12V cig port. I haven’t owned a single item that uses that in over 10 years. Also I noticed the gas cap hit the plastic as well lol. I believe you get the ZR2 front suspension items when you get the $500ish snow plow package. And you can option it with up fitter switch’s for cheap. ZR2 is a worthless upgrade. A heavily optioned LT Z71 is 20k cheaper than the ZR2.