Good Day Mr. Markus. I think between the pricepoint and ability to lie flat in your case/bag/whatever makes the Neewer a excellent choice (especially if on a budget). But I have to say that your showing and explaining how the different reflectors can add a stop (or so) was great to learn. So apparently and old Dog (like myself), can still learn 'stuff'.... so thanks!
When I first saw this on another TH-cam channel, I immediately wondered what you’d think. Good timing. I’d always thought Neewer was just marketing Godox gear. Clearly that’s not the case (now). Thanks for the review.
I'd be up for mixing and matching these with my AD200s and AD100s if I needed some extra power for an outdoor shoot or large group. However, the fact that it's not compatible with the Godox trigger is kind of unfortunate. I DO have an R2 receiver, so I can easily add it that way, but if I wanted an additional light (2 Neewer Q4s) I'd have to get another R2 unit. Although they're not expensive, I've just gotten spoiled on not needing to buy receivers for my light since the Godox line has them built in :D BUT for under $400...that's not a bad deal for a light that has almost the same output as the AD600. Good find!
@Marshallchandra Sorry, I misspoke. I have an X1 receiver. Not sure why I kept saying R2. But regardless, the wireless triggers all have a port to connect a sync cable directly to any flash unit regardless of brand so long as you have the right size cable.
Are you sure it's not compatible? It shouldn't be, but i noticed that the user interface, fhe buttons, the display, menu and even the basic reflector and the bulb are the same as the godox ad600pro.. they probably have many same components
Markus, Thank you for your input on the Q4 and the extra tips!! You proved the light has a great performance, and the price is really good, plus Neewer often offers extra discount and that makes my wallet happy 😅
been dying to see this review on your site! The neewer light flat design caught my eyes when it came out. I like knowing i can pack several of these in one case compared to the regular bulky cylinder bodies. The only disappointment is the weight. I assumed it would be a couple of pounds lighter but i was wrong:/ But the price point is pretty awesome! Thx for the review!
Those reflectors concentrate the light in the center so you get a hotspot. I never shoot with reflectors. Put them in a softbox and and then check the output.
I've been watching a whole bunch of your videos for video light recommendations. Boy, you reviewed a lot of them over the last year or so! Today, which affordable really bright video light are you highly recommending? I almost bought the Zhiyun Molus x100 but double checked your channel for a review first and I'm glad I didn't! Thanks!!!!
I concur on the ad600bm I upgraded to a pro and I regret it because it has not been any better. TTL is a mix bag. Outdoors bright conditions or at night it gets thrown off. It was on sale and I sold my bm to pay the difference still wonder if the $300 was a good move. It is slightly larger and heavier. Anyways nowadays it stays home. I am using the ad100pro and ad300pro.
Interesting stuff indeed. Got to say that aesthetically, there's something about the Neewer I don't like - but I support it's performance that really matters. But, you mentioned that some Bowens mount modifiers won't attach the the apparent Bowens mount of the Neewer - that's an issue if you have a collection of Bowens mount stuff already and you don't know what will or won't fit.
I have several lights and several bowls and softbox inserts, which are all by Godox and even they are not consistent. Very frustrating. My 3D printer and cutting used coffee cans came to the rescue to fabricate mods.
Godox trigger or bust.... I don't anymore care about OEM flashes and their own triggers, and same is with almost every other. I want compatibility between OEM camera bodies, so I can just keep one flash setup and get one trigger for all. And GoDox does that best.
@@ArminHirmer I still prefer AD200 for the compromise of power and combination to different modifiers. While color balance is not critical IMHO for portraits, it is for product photos where multiple shots needs to be combined and have same colors. AD100 is a great travel flash, but I can't really see the shape of this being so much better when it is boxy one. Great value if one just needs few flashes and doesn't require to play with multiple other devices. I don't remember now how much did the grounded glass help against hot spots in modifiers, avoiding requirement to use double diffuser fabric, but requiring special trigger is just no go for me...
Something doesn't make sense to me. Between 5:00 and 5:45 you compare the light outputs of the two lights with the high output reflector. They are both about 32. But when you add the diffuser, the light output on the 6 is barely reduced. But on the 4 it is reduced significantly. Why would that be? Something doesn't sound right.
Great video! Does the neewer trigger basically work the same as the Godox pro trigger? Just looked it up, and the Q4 can be optically triggered, so thats cool!
Oh well if there's an optical slave mode for that Q4 it becomes a much more desirable addition to a lighting setup. Who wants to be mixing wireless triggers?
How well would that reflector work with the AD-B2 dual head for the Godox ad200? I recently picked up a 2nd 200 and would like to get a good output from the dual head mount. I also debated the magmod dual mount set up as well.
When Cara is shooting the video of you, what is she using? I know that you said you like 1080, and these videos are always so clean, fast focused, and the sound is great.
I'm a Panasonic owner... can you make it work in Manual mode with your trigger (N, C or S) in any Panasonic or Olympus, that will help me a lot!!! If case that you make it work... can you also try HSS? Thank you in advance....
For the price it's good, but I'm not buying because I don't want to buy a trigger, and then what do I do with my other Godox equipment? If the godox trigger worked with this, I might get one. Also I think that while the total volume is less, the AD600 would seem to pack more easily into equipment bags. Packing this in a suitcase is very niche. In my kit there are "places" where things go, and the Q4 dimensions seem hard to fit in... too wide one way, too tall the other.
since the neewer mount doesnt really work right -do you know what softbox to get? .... and sorry if my question doesnt make sense -im not sure where the softbox would actually mount... around the 7" leftfoto
I have two of these Q4s and I have never had an issue mounting any bowens mount modifier to it. I think it's just a matter of taking your time since the mount is recessed into the light.
@@DeMarcusBolds thanks!!! u ever use them for outdoor shoots in the daylight -1 of these 400w bight enough? -do they need to be super close to the subject? also im still trying to decide if i want do a constant light with 300w -will that be bright enough ? any input on the matter is greatly appreciated!
Hello Markus, can you use this Q4 with godox trigger ? mine and my friends are heavily invested in godox system but I want to try out this Q4, the only thing I concerned about is can it use mix with godox system ?
Oh! If we were to use that with a Godox receiver, would it work with HSS in case that's needed? I don't always like using HSS, but sometimes it's useful. Did you test that out yet?
If you're already in another ecosystem, you just have to either dump it and go with these, or add them to your collection. For me, I'm going with these because I don't have any studio lights yet. I'll take the money I save and put it into a good portrait lens for my Zf.
@@MarkusPix 5 pounds and a very odd shape ? Small sleek and powerful for portable light ! That is a studio light ! Stay with the Godox 600 in house ! Led's are getting RGB color, so flash is an old tech now ! Sensor sensitivity is becoming less of an issue ! No noise at high ISO 3,200 no problem even on a 4 year old camera ! All the Best !
Mate. You’re a real card. I vote your the most honest and reliable. It has helped me considerably.
Thanks Markus. I was surprised to see how much of a difference the different reflectors are.
Good Day Mr. Markus. I think between the pricepoint and ability to lie flat in your case/bag/whatever makes the Neewer a excellent choice (especially if on a budget). But I have to say that your showing and explaining how the different reflectors can add a stop (or so) was great to learn. So apparently and old Dog (like myself), can still learn 'stuff'.... so thanks!
A little work with a dremel and no more problems with mounting diffusers. Got mine at a steal for &287.
Thank you for your honest reviews. I appreciate hearing the bad as well as the good about the gear that's out there.
Still amazes me how the bevel reflector makes a huge difference
When I first saw this on another TH-cam channel, I immediately wondered what you’d think. Good timing. I’d always thought Neewer was just marketing Godox gear. Clearly that’s not the case (now).
Thanks for the review.
I'd be up for mixing and matching these with my AD200s and AD100s if I needed some extra power for an outdoor shoot or large group. However, the fact that it's not compatible with the Godox trigger is kind of unfortunate. I DO have an R2 receiver, so I can easily add it that way, but if I wanted an additional light (2 Neewer Q4s) I'd have to get another R2 unit. Although they're not expensive, I've just gotten spoiled on not needing to buy receivers for my light since the Godox line has them built in :D BUT for under $400...that's not a bad deal for a light that has almost the same output as the AD600. Good find!
this is my exact same reaction. If I could mix & match with my godox/flashpoint units & trigger I would put this on my "to buy" list.
How do you connect with R2 receiver? I don't see a hotshoe
@Marshallchandra Sorry, I misspoke. I have an X1 receiver. Not sure why I kept saying R2. But regardless, the wireless triggers all have a port to connect a sync cable directly to any flash unit regardless of brand so long as you have the right size cable.
Are you sure it's not compatible? It shouldn't be, but i noticed that the user interface, fhe buttons, the display, menu and even the basic reflector and the bulb are the same as the godox ad600pro.. they probably have many same components
I have one and I think it is the best value for money strobe at the moment.
MARKUS! Love your humor!!! Another awesome video. Neewer = Weener
Markus, Thank you for your input on the Q4 and the extra tips!!
You proved the light has a great performance, and the price is really good, plus Neewer often offers extra discount and that makes my wallet happy 😅
been dying to see this review on your site! The neewer light flat design caught my eyes when it came out. I like knowing i can pack several of these in one case compared to the regular bulky cylinder bodies. The only disappointment is the weight. I assumed it would be a couple of pounds lighter but i was wrong:/ But the price point is pretty awesome! Thx for the review!
Also you need all Neewer gear and trigger,, unfortunately won't mix with Godox
thanks markus! helped me make more of a decision of my choices
Your videos are the best. Thank you for all you do!!
Great review.. nice to have more options, too bad it doesn't work with the Godox trigger though
Love your videos and reviews Markus. Are you planning to review the new Magmod XL products? Excited to see your review on them.
As always a great review!!!👍👍👍
That sponsorship bit at the beginning made me lol
Thanks Markus for another great gear review.
Those reflectors concentrate the light in the center so you get a hotspot. I never shoot with reflectors. Put them in a softbox and and then check the output.
Thanks Markus, I like your reviews!
The Rubber does feel good…..Shut Up Mark! First time here and subscribed, thank you!
Hey Markus! Did you see that MagMod came out with a collapsable 8" reflecctor? Please review the MagMod XL!
The godox ad600 wistro reflector doesn't fit on the ad600 Pro either I had to take a file and grind the ends haha.
the reflectors with the facets are so much better then the textured ones. huge difference.
I've been watching a whole bunch of your videos for video light recommendations. Boy, you reviewed a lot of them over the last year or so! Today, which affordable really bright video light are you highly recommending?
I almost bought the Zhiyun Molus x100 but double checked your channel for a review first and I'm glad I didn't!
Thanks!!!!
Good Day Markus, Have you ever critiqued the Paul C. Buff Celestial monolights? If so, what were your thoughts?
great video -thanks so much!
I concur on the ad600bm I upgraded to a pro and I regret it because it has not been any better. TTL is a mix bag. Outdoors bright conditions or at night it gets thrown off. It was on sale and I sold my bm to pay the difference still wonder if the $300 was a good move. It is slightly larger and heavier. Anyways nowadays it stays home. I am using the ad100pro and ad300pro.
Thanks for amazing review.
Interesting stuff indeed. Got to say that aesthetically, there's something about the Neewer I don't like - but I support it's performance that really matters. But, you mentioned that some Bowens mount modifiers won't attach the the apparent Bowens mount of the Neewer - that's an issue if you have a collection of Bowens mount stuff already and you don't know what will or won't fit.
I have several lights and several bowls and softbox inserts, which are all by Godox and even they are not consistent. Very frustrating. My 3D printer and cutting used coffee cans came to the rescue to fabricate mods.
sweet, but it should work with Good trigger...
Godox trigger or bust....
I don't anymore care about OEM flashes and their own triggers, and same is with almost every other. I want compatibility between OEM camera bodies, so I can just keep one flash setup and get one trigger for all.
And GoDox does that best.
I agree. I just wanted to see how portable this thing was for suitcases
@@MarkusPix for this it looks great, but as you said, 4 AD100 will do almost the same, easier to pack and one can shape the light
@@ArminHirmer I still prefer AD200 for the compromise of power and combination to different modifiers.
While color balance is not critical IMHO for portraits, it is for product photos where multiple shots needs to be combined and have same colors.
AD100 is a great travel flash, but I can't really see the shape of this being so much better when it is boxy one.
Great value if one just needs few flashes and doesn't require to play with multiple other devices.
I don't remember now how much did the grounded glass help against hot spots in modifiers, avoiding requirement to use double diffuser fabric, but requiring special trigger is just no go for me...
@@paristo yeah, I have AD200 and AD100 and happy with it. Sometimes is just the need for a bit more light though :)
Thank for your effort of making this video, sound very good deal to me. Is it bowen mount? How is its awb for long period shooting?
Youre the man Markus..
I hope so. Or I'm not wearing appropriate clothes 😄
Something doesn't make sense to me. Between 5:00 and 5:45 you compare the light outputs of the two lights with the high output reflector. They are both about 32. But when you add the diffuser, the light output on the 6 is barely reduced. But on the 4 it is reduced significantly. Why would that be? Something doesn't sound right.
32 to 22.8 is still only one third of a stop, same difference
Great video! Does the neewer trigger basically work the same as the Godox pro trigger? Just looked it up, and the Q4 can be optically triggered, so thats cool!
Godox cannot be used with Neewer, but they work the same
Oh well if there's an optical slave mode for that Q4 it becomes a much more desirable addition to a lighting setup. Who wants to be mixing wireless triggers?
thanks you great 👍😃 that is most honest information in Web
I just bought the Q4 on Amazon for $250!
Great video.
Sir Markus the NEEWER Q4 is Rebranded of Godox, JINBEI or VISICO?
Markus thumbs up says a lot. Neewer can already use this vid as proof
can I charge and use it at the same time (full power with the LED light) need it for a photobooth
How well would that reflector work with the AD-B2 dual head for the Godox ad200? I recently picked up a 2nd 200 and would like to get a good output from the dual head mount. I also debated the magmod dual mount set up as well.
Good question, but I can't answer it as I gave away both my AD-B2s a few months ago
Just like God you can create LIGHT Markus!!
Neewer product good but Godox better specially in service ur comparing is good knowledge and experience sir
How are you going to trigger the Q4? Do you have to change over to the Neewer trigger? or is there a way to adapt Godox to trigger Neewer?
You need a Neewer trigger
When Cara is shooting the video of you, what is she using? I know that you said you like 1080, and these videos are always so clean, fast focused, and the sound is great.
Sony RX100vii shooting 1080 60p. Audio is recorded separately
I'm a Panasonic owner... can you make it work in Manual mode with your trigger (N, C or S) in any Panasonic or Olympus, that will help me a lot!!! If case that you make it work... can you also try HSS? Thank you in advance....
Yes Neewer makes a Panasonic trigger that can of course do manual and HSS
@@MarkusPix Thank you for answering... and does it work with the Q4... I can't find the model of the Panasonic trigger 😥😥
For the price it's good, but I'm not buying because I don't want to buy a trigger, and then what do I do with my other Godox equipment? If the godox trigger worked with this, I might get one. Also I think that while the total volume is less, the AD600 would seem to pack more easily into equipment bags. Packing this in a suitcase is very niche. In my kit there are "places" where things go, and the Q4 dimensions seem hard to fit in... too wide one way, too tall the other.
Lol
What about if you swapped the bulbs? Godox into the Neewer
different bulbs
since the neewer mount doesnt really work right -do you know what softbox to get? .... and sorry if my question doesnt make sense -im not sure where the softbox would actually mount... around the 7" leftfoto
I have two of these Q4s and I have never had an issue mounting any bowens mount modifier to it. I think it's just a matter of taking your time since the mount is recessed into the light.
@@DeMarcusBolds thanks!!! u ever use them for outdoor shoots in the daylight -1 of these 400w bight enough? -do they need to be super close to the subject? also im still trying to decide if i want do a constant light with 300w -will that be bright enough ? any input on the matter is greatly appreciated!
Can you use the bulb from the Godox light on the Neewer and vice versa?
no
@@MarkusPix bummer but thanks for the confirm!
Hello Markus, can you use this Q4 with godox trigger ? mine and my friends are heavily invested in godox system but I want to try out this Q4, the only thing I concerned about is can it use mix with godox system ?
You need a Neewer trigger
@MarkusPix there is no work around like using Xpro trigger of godox ? i've heard somewhere that Xpro trigger can triggered both Neewer and Godox
Godox cant trigger some Geekoto lights, not Neewer as far as I know
@@MarkusPix thank you
Love the video
Ty the AD600, what's the difference between pro and non pro?
th-cam.com/video/-mE4rQlSv7M/w-d-xo.html
Oh! If we were to use that with a Godox receiver, would it work with HSS in case that's needed? I don't always like using HSS, but sometimes it's useful. Did you test that out yet?
It doesnt work with Godox transmitters, you need the Neewer transmitter, and yes it does HSS
@MarkusPix no, I meant connection a Godox receiver to it...I wondered if when doing that, if HSS would work.
What diffuser are you using with the Leftphoto reflector? I don't see the reflector and diffuser sold together
www.adorama.com/fplfxp004.html
@@MarkusPix Thank you!
Whats with owerheating, i didnt seen any cooling system?
It vents the heat. I love this light.
TY.
can you get your camera person a gimble?
I honestly do not like the design of this new flash it seems like they’re going back in time when people have box cars 0:53
Agreed. The shape to me resembles an antique camera, back when everything was oversized.
can you use it while it's charging?
Yes.
When ypu begin to tilt the light, the balance is thrown off. Also,if you grind down some of the Bowens prings, they will fit in the mount.
If you're already in another ecosystem, you just have to either dump it and go with these, or add them to your collection. For me, I'm going with these because I don't have any studio lights yet. I'll take the money I save and put it into a good portrait lens for my Zf.
Great video Marcus, very informative.
What mske is the diffuser you use on the curved 7'x reflector please ! ?
www.adorama.com/fplfxp004.html
Great.
I like!
I like your videos, honestly think if you do another haircut you'll have much more views :D
Lemme guess, you have no hair 😄
@@MarkusPix I'm a female with quite long hair
@@MarkusPix :D
It's really too bad you have to use the Neewer trigger. I've already got flashpoint triggers and flashes so this is a no go sadly.
The Neewer trigger is a $40 add-on when purchased with a Q4.
@@carterextreme758 still doesn't solve it not working with my flashpoint/godox flashes.
Ha-ha! In my neck of the woods it's not even available yet... 😜
can the godox trigger work with the neewer?
No
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requires a Neewer flash trigger....that sucks.
if markus agrees...
"Bowel Movement" 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😁😁😁😅😅
4 ad100 will be way more expensive than I Q4
Yahoo
I stopped using my AD600S for the Neewer Q3 strobes! Really no difference imo. Anyone want to buy three AD600s lol
“Two stops less” that means it puts 25% of the other one…
Man, you and the stops confuse me..
Funny, opening
That is going in your travel Bag ? NO NO NO !
why why why
@@MarkusPix 5 pounds and a very odd shape ? Small sleek and powerful for portable light ! That is a studio light ! Stay with the Godox 600 in house ! Led's are getting RGB color, so flash is an old tech now ! Sensor sensitivity is becoming less of an issue ! No noise at high ISO 3,200 no problem even on a 4 year old camera ! All the Best !
😂 full disclosure 😂😂😂😂😂
Good, powerful, but... HUGE. Leave it in studio :)
🤣😂😂 not!!
Ugh way too big