Flash Photography For Portraits: ND Filter vs High Speed Sync Technique
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- Learn the differences between using a flash with an ND filter versus using high-speed sync! Check it out and tag me on IG with your results!
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The question is, which do you prefer for shooting portraits wide open with flash? ND or High Speed Sync? Sound off in the comments below!
I have been using clip in ND filters (rather than HSS) for the past 18 months. The main reason is it liberates more power for my strobes, and has meant that I can now do all I need with a dinky little Godox AD100 in a modifier most of the time, and if really bright, an AD300. Previously I was needing an AD400 and AD200's for the same results. This has really allowed me to save weight and space in my camera bag.
I actually shoot both sometimes LOL
Though I am guessing some camera can go upto 1/8000 sec and some camera can do high speed sync 1/4000 and it also what f stop will used and if dose it requires the nd filter
HSS for sure. Great videos as always Miguel, thank you!
I use both, however, in the spirit of the question, I favor ND filters.
A word of advise, whenever you change the power of the flash you must purge the flash first before you take the photo. If you took a photo with a 4.0 setting and then went down to 2.0, you must purge the flash first because the flash charge is still at 4.0. Once the purge has been made the battery will charge the capacitor to 2.0 which is now ready to take a photo.
Good advice thank you 🙏
how do you purge the flash? a power cycle?
@@Drasengan75 just fire it
@ooltimu ohh haha thanks. Cuz i was literally confused. Thanks again.
What’s purge it mean
ND allows better battery usage. HSS uses up more battery. So if it is going to be a longer shoot, might want to use the ND to have a spare battery. Both are great tools to get the job done. 🙂👍🏻
Exactly right!
I wrote my one note - the same...
HSS doesn’t have power either as it’s bursting the flash.
Thanks, I was wondering about this!
Wrong. Using an nd filter means you need to increase the power of the flash. Hss makes the flash use less power but it technically is firing more times. But it balances out.
For portraits, I'd always go with nd filters. It's just more manageable for a photo shoot. The only times i use hss is for things in motion.
Love them both. Thank you for educating a beginner photographer here.
This is very helpful. I struggle with off camera flash. This video put a lot of things in perspective for me. Thanks a lot!
Youre a great photographer and educator. Loved the video
Hi Miguel: Another great tutorial!! Love your explanation of the two techniques really makes it easy to understand. Think my next purchuse will be an ND filter.
Miguel has the best off camera flash instructional tutorials on TH-cam. PERIOD. Thank you for uploading these quality videos. It is directly influencing my photography purchases.
Wow, thank you for the kind words! Glad my content is helping you out :)
I concur!! I love his instructional tutorials!
I bought an ND filter and love how the images came out... plus I don't lose power on my flash, so I'm happy with the ND filter
Very true!
This is an awesome video, I love how you did this kind of iterative approach that shows how each step of the way influences the final result. Definitely subscribed now!
So happy to hear you enjoyed it, and thanks for subscribing! More to come next week 😁📸
Great video & tutorial, I think i will try both techniques!
Beautifully explained. Thanks
Very informative, I understood...............great video. I watched it after watching your most recent ND filter video. The pieces of the puzzle are beginning to fall into place for me.
Great vid - thanks for that. It had been confusing me but now it's all clear. Keep up the good work !
Amazing video and what wonderful photos, very explanatory.
One of the best tutorials on just using OCF and even easy follow on the HSS. Thank you for doing this tutorial Miguel
Thank you!!
Awesome video Miguel, now I will try the ND filter, thank you
Excellent work sir
Learned something new today, thanks Miguel
I am just starting out in photography. I was thinking of buying a strobe but it is quite expensive and I was thinking of a model without HSS.(It is way more cheaper than that with HSS.) I thought I might have problems shooting with a wide aperture in daylight, but then I found out there is a way to use an ND filter! I learned a great deal. Thank you!
I'm new to photography..Thanks for the technique..This is great
Thanks!!!!! Really informative for me, as an advanced amateur. Personally, I think that the combo worked the best. HSS seemed entirely too bright overall. ND alone, in your time of day was unable to bring out the model's features and seemed to fall flat. Will definitely try w/my D500 & off camera flash.
Great video!!!!! Learned a lot !!
I would go with an ND with wide aperture during the day time. Informative video. Thanks! 👍👍
I just came across this topic yesterday.
I watched another video by a photographer about it, and now I saw yours on TH-cam about the same topic.
However, yours was explained better because you went into more depth with the individual stops. Thank you, Miguel. Beautiful images !!
So happy to hear it! That's why I went into TH-cam creating tutorials. I see that kind of thing far too often. Hope it helps!
I like the ND filter look for some reason. Great Video
Woww nice Bro, so beautiful shot.. good job 🤙🤙🤙
great vdo ... thank you ... and you go at a good speed .. we can actually keep up!
Nicely explained and demonstrated Miguel!
Thank you! 🙏
Cool! I've never used an ND filter with flash....time to experiment ! Thank you....
Great tutorial
Brilliant video thanks.
Nice photography sir
They both look amazing. I am leaning more towards ND filter. 👍Thank you for sharing. 🍺
Great video, full of information
I’ve done both methods and honestly it doesn’t matter much to me personally…it’s just another great tool option to have in your bag. I remember watching Joel Grimmes..years ago use nds for his portrait work and do amazing work . I just like options and a variable nd takes up little space in your bag so why not.
You're photographing thru another lens so remember to take care of the ND filter, don't abuse it. Some cameras may struggle with focus with a really dark ND, and if the lens becomes warped from heat or misuse, you'll struggle with focus.
Excellent tutorial simple and effective
Thank you!! That's always my goal 🙏
Good work brother!
Great video! For professional shootings, well, whatever works best in the situation, but for people who do it as a hobby, clearly an V-ND filter is best - cheaper than lights/triggers with HSS, less battery consumption, and the filter is useful also for other kinds of photos or for video.
Thanks for the video! Using both methods, as/when needed, will help anybody be a better photographer... I hope!
ND filter is amazing !
Nice video, as I do have high speed sync and plan on getting the Nikon 85mm 1.2 with Z8 contemplating the ND for that lens specifically for this.
I preferred the ND based on the colors as the pink top was perfect to express this. Also the softer light on the face as well.
Both shots a greats and in a pinch one way other the other will make it happen.
Budget is my limitation. Great vid man 🤙
Thank you again, actually had to refer back to this video before buying NEW nd filters
Great video
The subject is good at what she does. Great vid, it was helpful.thanks.
Your videos are very helpful, you're an excellent teacher 👏
Thank you so much for the feedback!! 🙏
Great video, it helped me out a lot I’m just starting to get into photography, I’m doing my home work first to see what I need
Hope it helps! If you have any topics that you'd like me to cover along the way let me know. 👍
Tons of value from your 2 videos about this topic. In my budget case, I already have my ad200 with trigger, since the battery and the ND filter cost the same, either same battery with ND filter or add another battery because HSS uses more battery. I would go with battery. If you're a hybrid shooter go with ND filter for video purposes also. Thank you M.
nice model. Nice tutorial, Thank you!
Glad you like it!
If given the choice, I'd go w/HSS. I think it makes for a 'cleaner' shot (if that's even possible). Having a trigger/strobe that works natively w/your camera makes it easy. Once you've adjusted for abient (to get the real colors of your sky, there), it's then just a matter of finding the right power output from the strobe, based on the distance between the strobe and the model. As always, very well done, mate -- thanks!
Both look great
Thank you!
I don't know how or why I never subscribed. Miguel you are a legend. As always a big fan here!
I appreciate your support!! 🙌
Dope video bro!
Thanks Brandon! 🙏
I guess it will depend on the type of light you use, if you have a speedlight the best option will be to use the ND.
If you don't have power problems with the flash you use the HSS.
Excellent demonstration.
Great topic, I believe it's a matter of choice whether you're in for maximizing power like with a smaller light, going for ND it is... and if power isn't an issue, then High Speed sync is more flexible! Both are great tools, and your shots are awesome!
Thanks for watching and I totally agree!
Hi Miguel. That's some powerful content here!
Looking at your side-by-side comparisons, the ND filter frames look more contrasted as if the filter reduces overall luminosity to increase contrast. But it's so subtle that you wouldn't know.
Great tutorial!
Thanks brother! The ND shots definitely had a bit more contrast to them. I imagine I could have made them look fairly similar if I edited them but it's cool to see the results. 🙏
@@MiguelQuilesJr i wonder if, because your ND is variable, it is due to it being a polarizer
Very nice video.
It's good to point that with HSS we are loosing about one stop of light from the flash so if you want to overpower the ambient light in a more sunny day ND filter is the way to go.
You lose more than that the further past your flash sync speed you go. ND filters for me.
I love the ND filter great photos
Great topic, thank you so much
Your videos are really dope. Thanks for the info!💯‼️
I appreciate that, thank you!! 🙌
I love soft soft so so so so much!
They look almost the same to me. I like how both look but I do favor ND filters. Great vid! :)
Very good lesson. Take care...
Thanks for watching!
Great Video!!
Thank you!
Excellent!
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Been using this technique ever since learning shoot on site
I’m new on this so new subscriber here 👋 thanks for sharing your tips 👍🏻
Thanks, great topic. Probably leaning towards ND so that my speedlight doesn't overheat in HSS.
The ND looks good and when I was in studio did go over 200. Awesome class.
Thanks for the kind words and support! 🙏
Thank you!
Thank you awesome video.
Thanks for watching!
Nice work Miguel; alot of shooters mangle this topic- you didn't. Love the results. Old dude here/67; been using an old school (portable) Norman 400B flash unit for years + ND filters. I have a Big Stopper, 1-10 as needed. AF on my Nikons/DSLRs can sometimes wander, specific focus points....but WHEN it works, it works fine, and unlike HSS units....my flash doesn't have the continuous pulse- which eats up about half it's power. Plus a diffusion panel, etc. IF I went HSS, it would have to be high-power: 800+ watts min. Distance, Diffusion, Design eat up the Output.
You know you're a natural beauty when you're dressed down and still looking beautiful. Thanks Miguel as always for the lesson and nice work.
I appreciate the uplifting words and support! I'll be sure to share with Katelyn. Thanks for watching :)
He was talking about you
Great Information Thank you Sir from INDIA
To save battery and refresh battery time, I'd shoot without HSS. As far as the comparison between the two, it's really hard to tell because they look very similar. Of course, it helps when you have a pretty model 😉
The nd filters make it looks so much better.
my nikon d5600 dont have hss but i do have nd filters this is a great technique - thanks for info
I do have speedlites and just bought a monolight. The two speedlites can do hss. Im on a budget do the camera model i have, and the monolight that is arriving this week, are incapable of hss. So for me, the ND filter is the choice for me.The results look similar in your video, but that may not be the case when looking at a raw file.
Thank you for the video.
As a complete newbie to flash photography (still deciding on my first Speedlite), HSS intrigues me a lot because it's easy and simple. I guess once I get it, I'll use HSS for now, especially since every flash with HSS could also do standard sync.
dont forget the cost of these things !!!
@@hazard3020 I decided to get a TT 685 II for my first flash, and for my need it's plenty for now. Now if I'll get another unit it'll be something from godox's wistro line since I really appreciate the HSS on my TT 685
Very nice photos :) thank you
Thank you!
Both are great! Just that you would be spending at least $200 on a True Color ND filter. Definitely worth it if you want to always shoot at full power because using HSS cuts your flash power in half. So to get full power equivalent to 1/16 with HSS, you have to use 1/8. If you dont want to spend another $200 on an ND filter, then best to go with HSS.
I am so used to hss I can’t think being without it. By big strobe has plenty of juice and my speedlights use lithium batteries so that helps. Thanks for the video.
Shout out to the lady too :), amazing no one mentions her 😅.
Sharpe explanations thx
While I think it depends on your shooting style, for me, I have always used ND filters as it offers me more fast flexibility, without having to constantly try and punch up additional light from the flash. This is nothing against HSS, and in certain situations where you need to catch something that is in motion (even slightly), it will work much better than the ND filters
Awesome =, thanks!
Thanks Miguel!
Thanks for watching Craig!
It‘s funny, I just watched your video from 6 months ago and at the end I saw this video linked. And it‘s made 1 day ago 😮💨
Lucky me haha
Crazy timing! 😂
great video as usual. any focusing tips when using an ND filter? thanks.
Although the one with the ND filter and HSS mode is exposed correctly, aesthetically the first overexposed background one looks more natural to me. Btw thanks for sharing
I like the smoother light on her cheeks with the ND. I usually use HSS because it is always available but I would like to use ND but screw on filters in my kit are 77mm dia. but my preferred portrait lens is the 85 1.8S. Using the F mount 70-200 2.8 however will work. Most of my portrait work is done with a Z6 so I can use S lenses but I have a D850 and D800 with plenty of F lens choices. I just leased a new studio with 76sq meters/690sq ft with 6m high ceiling/20ft high ceiling so as soon at the build out is done next week I will experiment with these options. wall is 80% window so there is some work to do in making multiple drapes, blackout and translucent. My old studio had a large cyclorama but I do not want to go to the effort and expense to build one in the new place.
very helpful, thank you
My pleasure! 🙏
This was a great one. I like both as well . Is it possible to use both at the same time. I
Great video as always. Would love to see this same comparison in a brighter setting. Maybe a daytime beach shoot with HSS vs. ND? Then we could really see the effects of the power output limitation of HSS. and the potential real advantage of ND. Thanks!
Thanks Dennis! Now that I'm feeling better I'm definitely doing that. 📸
Cool video
Thank you! 🙌
super tuto ! Freewell has now a V2 cpl+vnd 3-7 which looks similar to the one you are using.I am going to order one kit for my a7rv+50mm F/1.2+godox ad300pro. Do you have tutos on HVL-F60rm2 on and off camera ?
Nice comparison. I've never used HSS, but I constantly use ND filters when shooting at fast apertures. I use them in the studio and in the field. Now you got me curious about HSS. Though I've never felt limited by the ND method.
Thank you! I really only found ND filters to be less effective when using a DSLR or attempting to focus with anything above ND4 or so. It throws the AF system off on many camera systems and can sometimes cause color cast/vignetting. I still like having the option though.
@@MiguelQuilesJr Yes, that much is certain. I'm shooting with a Canon 5D Mk IV, and it struggles to nail focus with 8 stops of ND (5+3) over my 85mm. Less than that (5 or 3 alone), and it seems to do just fine. A small LED as a focus assist, mounted over the trigger, or held by an assistant if I have one, helps a lot.
@@MiguelQuilesJr I do notice a slight color cast, but I kinda like it.
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