Very well done Peter, now that your at it can you please make a best settings video for an arc with a single sub with a pair of one's as surrounds which I do believe that majority of your subscribers have at home.
Hey Peter can you please tell us what the best setting for a sonos setup with arc sub and 2 play 1 surrounds after the 14.2 update? I feel as tbe current settings you offered will have to be higher due to them cutting so much bandwidth out of ghe sub
Great video, very informative and interesting. Curious to know the settings for a single Sub and rear One's as surround? Also does Arc mount magnet mod is required in this case? Thanks in advance.
@Peter Pee Could you please update the settings for 2022? Yesterday there was an update for the Sonos Arc and they said that they had changed the algoritm on the centre speakers for the Arc which would make the sound on dialogues more "crisp"... after the update and the new trueplay setting, I do not get as good sound with these settings as I used to. I can hear that the bass has decreased a lot. Could you please check this out???
There's no perfect settings as if you truly knew how Sonos works, it all factors on your room size and speaker distances. I love Peters videos but people should be aware of this. Ideally best settings is to tune with true play, then use a SPL meter (either buy one or use a phone app) and make sure every speaker is the same volume. You can do this by finding a 5.1.2 test file then running through that with the spl meter. :)
Those using these settings are fooling themselves and ruining the sound target. Measuring far field, the frequency response isn't supposed to be flat!! Dammit! Don't believe in this nonsense. Rtings test for Harman target curve, which has elevated bass and then sloping treble. Sonos, and Bose too, follow the curve for the bass but keep the treble no sloping down. You're turning your setup into a bright sounding, bass shy mess if you're using these settings. It's a shame that so called audiophiles hardly know about loudspeakers and rooms, which is why reading Dr. Floyd Toole's book should be a must for these "audiophiles".
@@alamoody3668 Default really. Only turn on Loudness based on your listening habits. Night Mode if needed to reduce dynamic range. That's about it. Speech enhancement also if even after Night Mode dialogues aren't clear at the levels at which you listen. Run Trueplay. Test on and off. Repeat the tuning if needed. That's about it. Trust the manufacturer. You've spent a lot of money on their product, and they've spent millions upon millions on R&D. You're not going to be able to hack it to sound magically better, especially when using cheap measuring tools without an anechoic chamber. Trust Sonos. If you don't, buy some other company's product. Don't use terrible settings as recommended here and kill all their hardwork in tuning the product.
Peter, another informative video. Thank YOU!! Would you recommend these settings for listening to music too or just movies? Keep up the excellent work.
Ty Peter for ur time n dedication. I am just starting with arc and add later. What settings can I use? Also i have ATV4K and I sit 9’ feet from Sony 65”A8H Oled. I have iPhone XS Max. Some info would be so appreciated. Tyna
Fantastic video Peter! I’ve got the Arc, one Sub Gen 3 and 2x One SLs. The only altercation I made to your settings was putting the sub level to -2 as opposed to -4. This seems to result in a slightly better balance to my ears as I only have the one sub.
@@bbqboy175 Great minds think alike ;) Be interesting if Peter does a similar video with our setup to see what the differences are, but so far I’m more than happy with how it sounds.
@@bbqboy175 Yeah they’re not cheap! The second Sub.. then 2x Fives.. a pair of Roams for the bathroom.. a Move for the backyard 🙃 I love Sonos but it’s so tempting to keep adding more - I started with the humble Beam.
Peter, have you done any testing with Sonos Arc and Xbox Series X? Turning on Dolby Atmos in the Series X introduces quite a bit of delay between what is happening on-screen and audio. My setup, which is similar-ish to many others reporting the same issue, is as follows: Xbox connected to Samsung Q90t using HDMI port 3 (2.1-capable) with correct 2.1 cable, HDMI 2.1 cable from eArc port to Sonos Arc. This setup is meant to ensure that I do not miss out on VRR, VLL and other 2.1 goodness. Playing Atmos-enabled movies on the Samsungs native Netflix app works as it should, so my suspicion is that the Xbox, or perhaps the Dolby Access app on the Xbox, introduces something to the chain it is not supposed to. I saw another video that confirms that the TV set does not need to be put in passthrough-mode to actually pass through Atmos, I confirmed this by testing. But gaming has bad lag, almost half a scond. Playing BluRay discs has much less delay, but it is still there. I can't see that any of the tech-people on TH-cam are talking about this, have you heard of this before?
The problem I have is when watching movies , with volume at around 60%, the dialogue is great , but the explosions and music are extremely loud . Any tips ?
I battled with that issue for a while. I would have to watch movies with the remote in my hand. I recently relocated my sub. I think that resolved the issue.
That problem is usually when the sound engineers make the sound profile to be peaky at some frequencies. If you look at what I am trying to do, you will notice that I am trying to flatten out the curve. This should alleviate the problem of the explosions and music being too loud. In stock configuration and tune, the bass region is way too strong.
Another great comprehensive video, Peter, thank you! Question for you. In theory, would the size of the room play a factor in the outcome of the sound curves once you do the initial Trueplay? My Sonos system (same setup as this video) is in a very large room, so when I tune using Trueplay could it play a factor in this? So, for example, maybe my bass needs -2 and -1 (to help fill the room more) or something, and my heights might need one more notch up, for example? Or, do you believe the curve will still produce the same effects regardless of size? I guess I could also play around with this on my own. Thanks!
another amazing video, Peter! But I tried these settings with the arc & 1 gen3 sub and I didn’t enjoy it. But that’s just me, I’m sure it sounds great with another sub and the fives as surround.
Great informative video! Always eager to learn more about the Sonos system settings! How does the height setting affect the positioning you recommended in your other past video? In terms of increasing height artificially by angling forward it a bit. Is that no longer recommended with this new height setting?
Depending on your listening distance, the height can enhance the tilt (I'm using 1.5'' tilt). You should use test tones from Dolby for this, and find the volume where it's just before you can't tell if it's height or coming from the device itself (will make sense when you test). For me and my listening distance, 4 doesn't transfer to enough DB from reflective audio to tell - when everything else is chaos in the audio - so I run 6. However when I hit 8 it's so loud from the source (before reflection), it don't hear the height anymore when the atmos is 'loud'. So because 8 makes the height disappear to my ears (spatially), I bring it down 2 --- to have better DB range of quiet and loud sounds. In test tones, right now all my speakers from my listening position (at chosen volume) is 64DB - that's 64DB FR/LR/C/RR/RL, and with +6 Atmos, the up firing hit at 70DB... so just enough to be present, but not enough to wash the other speakers out. When I am watching Streaming Vs Lossless and DD vs DD+ vs DD+ Atmos vs TrueHD, I often have to tweak my surrounds as well.. but I have those values memorized, and they are +1/-1 tweaks.
Great Video Peter. I recently setup our home theater with an Arc, 2 Subs & Play 5's for the rears. I really enjoy your recommended settings for music, it was an improvement to my ears indeed! I only had to tweak the sub lvl up to -3 for our liking. My room is fully carpeted and Is 15x20 with 8 foot ceilings & these settings work great. I'm currently listening to Television with the same settings applied to see if it's also an improvement. I'm experimenting with the rears set to full not just ambient & my TV volume setting for the rears is set to +2. Are those 2 settings the same as yours as well? Full or ambient? And rear TV volume?
I'm pretty similar to you, I have the same setup but with Play 3's for rears and a 20x20 carpeted 8 foot ceiling room. I tweaked the sub lvl between -1 and -2 depending on the source audio. My rears are set to +3 since my rears are in the back of the room. It sounds great! I suspect I have to have a higher sub level than yours since the room is slightly larger.
Ive never thought of increasing treble as I always found the ARC quite harsh at first, although I have since put treble to 0, it was in negative while it was "bedding" in, going to try +3 I think. Peter are these setting ok for someone with just the ARC and a sub gen 3? I might put the sub to -2 instead of -4 though and Im a little unsure about lowering the EQ bass, I have that on 0 currently.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Are you n't feeling something weird when u have to setup something in -ve to get basic frequencty curve straight...yes..product is really bad with vocals with bad ssssh sound...reviewers are easily bypassing bad product by telling to setup in weird -ve values instead talking Abt how bad the product is in terms of dsp processing
Thanks for your help answering this question Tyler. Yes, the Fives add quite a bit of volume and bass so I did need to tune it down a little to ensure that the bass is not over powering the rest of the frequencies.
One of Trueplay's function is to set the phase of the subs but phase is very easy to get wrong even with the expensive systems using Audessey or Diracc. And when the phase of a sub is set wrong, the sound can go horribly wrong. I second Tyler's suggestion of using another phone.
Hey Peter, what are you using to send test tones to the Sonos Arc. I have a SPL meter but there is no settings within the Sonos app to send test tones. It’s not like on my receiver where I can send test tones to each individual speaker and calibrate it that way…
Peter how about addressing the volume difference when going from tv to music or visa versa. Say my tv is set at 20 and when I go to music have raise volume to even hear it. Then when I go back to tv it will blast you out of the place. Shouldn’t volume levels be the same.
I have a 15’ x14’ I getting a Sonos Arc, two gen 3 subs. My question to you is my room to small to get the Sonos 5’s for my surrounds. I mostly just watch movies and rarely play music. Thanks
Hi Peter , can you please share me the latest best sound setting for sonos arc + sub gen 3 + one’s for Sony A80J. Also how to get the full sound from the TV to arc system ? Can I change any setting on TV to get the Dolby sound through eARC ?
Might have to listen again, but did you mean raising the volume as in cranking it up on the remote ? Or is it another in app setting ? Sorry, not familiar with any of these settings or app for that matter.
This was awesome!!! I was actually hoping for an update like this, as it seemed like the frequency response had changed indeed since last year! Thank you so much!
Hello Peter. I was wondering if you know anything about the issue of dropped audio while listening to Dolby Atmos on the Arc. I have an LG C1 and Sonos said the TV is dropping the audio signal. I dont know what to do because other than that I’m so happy with this speaker. Any ideas would be appreciated
Thank you so much for this video Peter, you’re the man! I had no clue what I was getting into purchasing this system and there’s a lot to turn. I was one of those people who thought you just “turned it on” lol. You’re very much appreciated!
Hi Peter, I have the ARC / SUB and Ones as sorround…… TV channel sound works well but when i switch to movies in Netflix / Prime etc the dialuges volume drops a lot and i land up increasing the vol to 35 to 40 against normal vol of abt 18…… I have done the true play settting 3 times but not helped. Any reccomendations………
Very helpful info with regards to knowing what settings adjust which parts of the frequency curve! There seems to be a lot of variance on Trueplay results depending on the generation of device used so do you think these settings will be in the ballpark for most users or could it be totally different on a different IOS device?
Dear master Peter, Please do a video for below scenario👇 I have Sonos Arc, One SL pair as rear surround & Sonos sub. Its give me 5.1.2 HT experience for Atmos enabled movies. But when listening songs, I only need 2.1 channels. Since Sonos is versatile & modular concept, I have 2 options to play 2.1 channels. First option is Arc+Sub, second option is 2xOneSL+sub. I want to know which option give better sound staging & better sound quality for music/song. Need your technical advise...
Sorry for the late response. But for music, just use the Sonos One SL in stereo with the sub. No need testing. The fact that you can place the Ones much further apart is already a win.
Pete, I have to argue the advice to tilt the Arc forward to increase the Atmos effect. While the improvement is neglectable it will affecting noticeably the voice reproduction. Rather the overall performance of the Arc will improve decoupling it from the shelf with raising it of at least one inch while moving it as close as possible to its edge.
Hi Peter! Since Sonos just launched a clarity update for the Arc, perhaps you could make a video highlighting the differences with the new update, as well as updating best settings for the Arc with a single sub? Best regards from Sweden!
Thank you so much for the work you put into the video, I think I understood most of what you said, haha. However, I am wondering what you would recommend for the Arc settings just on it’s own- no surround speakers, no subs.
For most parts, they should stay the same. Except that the surround channels you won't have to set as well as the sub. But for the bass, I would say set it to neutral first (0) and then adjust from there to suit your preference.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
I will give this a try. I have the exact same setup: Arc, Gen 3 sub, gen 2 sub, two Sonos fives. I am surprised that you are suggesting subs and bass to be set that low. I was kind of unimpressed by the bass from adding the second sub so I recently turned my sub to +2, bass to +1 and I have been happy with it. That being said it is in the middle of a huge room.
@@TylerTron21 I wonder how complex it would be to do the measurements myself. Maybe Peter will do a new video on what equipment to buy or rent to do the measurements and adjustments.
Ignore this fake "audiophile". The in-room response is supposed to have higher bass than treble with an overall downward slope. This "flat" notion is misunderstood. It's supposed to be flat in following the downward slope. Rtings test to Harman target curve. Please don't use these settings and turn your setup into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
with sub level set to -4 you also change the crossover point, which you are not able to change. so you end up in a lack of bass in the former crossover region. please consider that before changing the sublevel. maybe the sonos dsp compensate for that. and the very important message….nobody appreciate and enjoy to hear a flat frequency response curve. there is a difference between flat and linear system setup.
As usual, another informative video Peter! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I also love the new simplified on-screen graphic as it is much easier to understand.
This is all very well, and appreciated, but most homes are carpet, so the sound is more muffled. These settings are for an echoing room, so these settings aren’t enough in a ‘normal’ living room environment. Can we have settings for them too please
You have to take it that I am a bit biased and I’d choose the Sonos Arc. For me, it’s a matter of having the modularity of the Sonos eco-system and ability to add and extend the functionality for years after.
Ha! Let me guess, the guys in the house wants it louder and the ladies want it a notch lower? Haha. I have that problem too. I think volume is a matter of preference individually but I think everyone at home is cool with about 30-40 in my room. But that's for my family and my room la.
Peter, great job. How would these settings change if a pair of latest Sonos One is used instead of PLAY 5 for the surround sound? May be an estimste based on key difference between play 5 and thr One.
I wouldn't say you want to change the settings too much. If anything, you can prop the bass up just 1 or 2 more notches but the rest should stay. The Fives don't really push much more bass when used in the surround setting.
Peter I hope you read this as I would like your advice. I currently have a Arc + Sub + 2x play 1 I am now trying to decide if I get a second sub or replace the play 1s with two sonos 5s ... you advice would be appreciated
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
I have read tons of negative reviews on Google Playstore and on several online fora about the unusability of Sonos S2 platform. Especially that S2 is full of bugs whereby speakers/sub/arc all lose connection to WiFi during music playback and one must reset and run through the setup for every use. Has this also been your experience when using S2? I was considering investing in a Sonos ecosystem (given the high ratings for Sonos hardware), but the many negative reviews of the S2 app make me question whether it is really worthwhile. Appreciate any feedback from you or anybody on here who has used S2. Cheers
The losing of connection has happened to me before on the S2 platform. In the earlier years, S1 has also gotten into that mess before. But in general, it is still stable. And if we look at the prior development of S1, I can expect S2 to get better over time too. To give you an idea, in the past 1 year, I had to do that twice. Which I think is bearable. And one of the times was when I switched out the device which was connected to the LAN.
Your videos convinced me to buy a pairs of five’s, but I’m struggling with being happy with your adviced settings in this video. I have a gen 2 sub and a sonos arc, I get a lot of volume when I turn the sub off, with sub I need to push the sub +4-5 to get the same volume as without sub. Do you you have any advice?
If you are able to get TRUE atmos to output on Tidal and Apple music then yes. The only way I know now is to use Apple music on an Apple TV 4K. Else even if you set everything to Atmos on your phone and you connect through Airplay or use Sonos S2 app, you are not actually getting Atmos. Just regular 2 channel but using all the channels 'upscaled'.
My evolution with sonos: -Too expensive its not worth it -buying sonos arc too avoid buying a sub -gf give me two sonos one for surround effect -Want to buy a sub to complete my setting -being upset coz sub gen3 is sold out
I have one other question. When you used true play, did you have loudness engaged or not and would it make a difference in the final setting one way or the other?
I am running a gen 1 and a gen 3 sub in my set up. They are placed in a diagonal configuration; front left corner and rear right corner both have the opening facing the wall rather than the room. Would there be any benefit in placing the gen 3 in either particular location? Also, if you do a modem, but NOT a router change, will it effect functionality of the system? Thank you Peter.
No need to make any settings changes if you are not changing the router. For the placement of the subs, I would say for most people, a diagonal placement across the room will provide the most even bass coverage.
Thanks Peter. Another question please. When settings are adjusted for “the Arc” in a home theatre set-up, do those changes in bass and treble also apply to the surrounds? Can the surrounds be fine tuned other that relative volume and full or partial frequency? Ty!!
Defined settings will change in every room. Peter's room is not your room. Peter's placement is not your placement. He uses Fives you may use ones. Nothing in audio is written in stone because our environments also play a major factor to the listening experience. Do you have carpet, do you have hardwood, do you have tile etc. What about ceiling heights or shapes.? Always thinks before you apply such sorceries and if you do test, mark down the settings your coming from so you can reverse it.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
@@akashmakkar7187 Perhaps you can suggest some alternate settings, based on Dr. Floyds book that we can try. Otherwise, your repeated Copy and Paste argument makes you come across as a bright sounding, bass shy troll.
@@ralphbell1786 Instead of trusting random people to give you some magic settings, just trust the company that has done rigorous R&D. Do Trueplay and live with that for a week or two without tweaking. See how you like it. Tweak bass or treble after that. Use test tones to verify that all channels have similar volume levels. Night Mode on is optional based on your needs. Loudness compensation keep on. It's a dynamic setting based in audio science that's rightly enabled by default. That's it. Don't butcher your soundbar with misguided "audiophile'" settings.
Just sub'd to your channel; your videos are awesome! If you see this comment (or anyone else who wants to weigh in), I currently have the Nakamichi Shockwafe 9.2.4 system and I was thinking about replacing it with a Sonos system. The Shockwafe is pretty good, but the vocals tend to sound fairly thin and while the subs will certainly rattle the walls, they're a little muddy. I know you'd probably support doing the switch on the basis of wireless surrounds, but putting that aside (I don't really mind the RCA cables) and just judging on sound quality alone, do you think it's worth doing the switch? I'd really value your input or that of anyone else who has heard both of these. I haven't heard the Sonos system in person and I'd love to get someone else's perspective before I head down the Sonos rabbit hole lol.
Sean, I'd like to see you at the bottom of this rabbit hole where I am. :D I can't really judge this because I do not have experience with the Nakamichi. If the Nakamichi allows you to tune the sound or EQ it, you should try that first. Boost the mids and reduce the bass. It should make the speech more intelligible and reduce the boom. Otherwise, my only comment on the Arc with a sub setup is that no one I have recommended the setup to before has complained of the sound quality. Although you might find the Atmos effect underwhelming if you are coming from a 9.2.4 setup!
@@PeterPee Thanks Peter! I've already got the Arc soundbar coming to do a comparison of the soundbars themselves without the surrounds, will go from there. The EQ is one of the reasons; Nakamichi lets you use presets on the remote but there's no real comprehensive EQ. One of the reasons I'm considering taking the Sonos leap. Doing it one step at a time. Your channel is truly awesome. I've checked a lot of audio channels on youtube as I've started to get into it and yours is by far the best.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Let us know how it goes! Take it as the baseline to get the curve flat (at least for my room) and then you can tweak from there dialing in small changes.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Direction is different from volume. You can try the volume adjustments first to see if it makes a difference and you’re happy with it. It’s a much easier thing to change!
@@ComicalMusic no, i have the full set up but when I turn off the sub and the 2 SLs the sound of the arc (obviously) changes tremendously, personally I don’t like the how the arc sounds by itself
@@davidc.7838 sorry, I have Arc and a sub. Would you recommend using these setting's or does it only apply if surrounds are part of setup? Currently I haven't changed any settings in eq since I got it..
@@ComicalMusic I think it worth the try, I am sure you will find the correct sound for you. I haven’t changed the settings either. Maybe I’ll give it a try today. Good luck!
I found these settings inadequate for my Arc, Gen 2 Sub and Play One surrounds...had to revert to the settings I had been using which highlights each individual component and how they interplay with each other.
Thanks for the feedback Tony. I recognise that the settings won't work for everyone. My room is kind of active and there is a chance that your room might be quieter and better controlled in terms of echos and reverbs. So if that's the case, my settings might come across as dry to your ears.
@@PeterPee To start: You have the best TH-cam content for Sonos users, period. Now regarding the settings I use for my Sonos Arc, Play:1 rears and Gen 2 Sub - I am trying to create a sound that I can enjoy both music and TV with. That's a very difficult task and I wish the Sonos app would allow us to program multiple settings somewhat like a traditional system does (Stereo, Theater, Concert Hall, etc.) without having to reset them every time.
@@tonyz376 The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Peter, thanks so much for your ongoing tutaledge! I learn so much from you. Forgive me, in being new to all this, if I don't understand how your calibration specs are relevant to my room? I'm guessing, that the curves you are referring to are Universal, regardless? Would this be correct?
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
@@akashmakkar7187 are there some basic settings, for a baseline, to then adjust off of per the room? I've been using his settings and have to say it sounds good. I just bump my sub and the EQ base up a bit.
@@akashmakkar7187 Whoa! I put everything back to flat in the S2 app, bumped the Sub up a bit, backed the EQ bass down slightly; the overall sound is much better. Thanks Akash!
@@Subjective_JoshNelson That's the way to go, buddy. You're buying a product made by people who take audio engineering quite seriously. Trust them first and then adjust for taste. Bass slightly higher with EQ at default is perfectly fine. Have you done Trueplay?
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Great info as ALWAYS ! So should we remove the lift we gave the arc for the height speakers to reach u? Or leave it as is . Should we retune again ? If we remove the door stoppers ?
@@TylerTron21 i get that . But I want to see what he says - if he suggests- I have high cielings . I wonder will it make it better or is just ok to do without . Thanks for the reply
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Ok, I tried the settings that are suggested and.. WOW! The dialogue just cleared up so nicely. You don't have to keep turning your system up and down when the dialogue stops and action begins. Peter, I love what you do. Do these settings also work if you're listening to stereo PCM music sources? I also enjoy the power of my Sonos system. When you raise the volume everything is so balanced with no distortion or listening fatigue! The height channel adjustment is magical. Dolby Atmos is downright amazing now. Thank you!
Hi William, the goal is to ensure that the sound volume feels more consistent and yet preserves ALL the dynamic range of each frequency. And because the final tune is flat, it will work well for music as well. If you are into bassy tracks and music, you might want to just pump up the bass just a tad more when it comes to music.
@@PeterPee thank you Peter so much. And please send your Patreon link to me. I think you do great work and I'd treat you to coffee and croissant any time! 😂 My other question is if the flat response depends on the height Channel to be elevated, then won't the stereo channel output suffer some upper mid-range and high frequency response if the stereo channel doesn't use the height speakers of the Arc?
Very well done Peter, now that your at it can you please make a best settings video for an arc with a single sub with a pair of one's as surrounds which I do believe that majority of your subscribers have at home.
I agree, this would be ideal!
Me too
Yes please
Waiting for this
Me too
Thank you Peter! Would you say similar settings should also improve sound on a setup with just an Arc, without subs and surrounds?
Hey Peter can you please tell us what the best setting for a sonos setup with arc sub and 2 play 1 surrounds after the 14.2 update? I feel as tbe current settings you offered will have to be higher due to them cutting so much bandwidth out of ghe sub
Peter great video. Quick question are you still angling your arc down for the height speakers or does the +4 take the place of angling down?
Great video, very informative and interesting.
Curious to know the settings for a single Sub and rear One's as surround?
Also does Arc mount magnet mod is required in this case? Thanks in advance.
Can you teach us the actually tuning process you use, it's self?
I'd love to know the software/hardware he uses to test this!
@Peter Pee
Could you please update the settings for 2022? Yesterday there was an update for the Sonos Arc and they said that they had changed the algoritm on the centre speakers for the Arc which would make the sound on dialogues more "crisp"... after the update and the new trueplay setting, I do not get as good sound with these settings as I used to. I can hear that the bass has decreased a lot. Could you please check this out???
I am definitely going to be doing an update. Will get round to the video this weekend. Am travelling now.
Do these recommended settings hold with one Sonos Gen 3 sub, and a pair of Sonos 1SLs as the surrounds?
Interested as well . I only have 1 subs
Yep +1 more people have 1 sub and ones.
Me too
Same question as Simon Mitchel
There's no perfect settings as if you truly knew how Sonos works, it all factors on your room size and speaker distances. I love Peters videos but people should be aware of this. Ideally best settings is to tune with true play, then use a SPL meter (either buy one or use a phone app) and make sure every speaker is the same volume. You can do this by finding a 5.1.2 test file then running through that with the spl meter. :)
Those using these settings are fooling themselves and ruining the sound target. Measuring far field, the frequency response isn't supposed to be flat!! Dammit! Don't believe in this nonsense. Rtings test for Harman target curve, which has elevated bass and then sloping treble. Sonos, and Bose too, follow the curve for the bass but keep the treble no sloping down. You're turning your setup into a bright sounding, bass shy mess if you're using these settings. It's a shame that so called audiophiles hardly know about loudspeakers and rooms, which is why reading Dr. Floyd Toole's book should be a must for these "audiophiles".
What settings do you suggest?
@@alamoody3668 Default really. Only turn on Loudness based on your listening habits. Night Mode if needed to reduce dynamic range. That's about it. Speech enhancement also if even after Night Mode dialogues aren't clear at the levels at which you listen. Run Trueplay. Test on and off. Repeat the tuning if needed.
That's about it. Trust the manufacturer. You've spent a lot of money on their product, and they've spent millions upon millions on R&D. You're not going to be able to hack it to sound magically better, especially when using cheap measuring tools without an anechoic chamber.
Trust Sonos. If you don't, buy some other company's product. Don't use terrible settings as recommended here and kill all their hardwork in tuning the product.
@@akashmakkar7187 thank you so much for the advice it make sense. I'm new to sonos just got it 2 weeks ago Arc,sub,& pair of one's.
@@akashmakkar7187 Akash by default do you mean reset?
Do you think settings should be similar with single sub?
Peter, another informative video. Thank YOU!! Would you recommend these settings for listening to music too or just movies? Keep up the excellent work.
Ty Peter for ur time n dedication. I am just starting with arc and add later. What settings can I use? Also i have ATV4K and I sit 9’ feet from Sony 65”A8H Oled. I have iPhone XS Max. Some info would be so appreciated. Tyna
Fantastic video Peter! I’ve got the Arc, one Sub Gen 3 and 2x One SLs. The only altercation I made to your settings was putting the sub level to -2 as opposed to -4. This seems to result in a slightly better balance to my ears as I only have the one sub.
Thanks, I'm going to give these settings a try as I have the same set up as you
Funny I’ve got the same set up and did exactly the same as you. 👍
@@bbqboy175 Great minds think alike ;) Be interesting if Peter does a similar video with our setup to see what the differences are, but so far I’m more than happy with how it sounds.
@@Licks61SG definitely! I’m toying with the idea of getting a second sub though. Just don’t know if I want to part with $1000 😂
@@bbqboy175 Yeah they’re not cheap! The second Sub.. then 2x Fives.. a pair of Roams for the bathroom.. a Move for the backyard 🙃 I love Sonos but it’s so tempting to keep adding more - I started with the humble Beam.
Peter, have you done any testing with Sonos Arc and Xbox Series X? Turning on Dolby Atmos in the Series X introduces quite a bit of delay between what is happening on-screen and audio. My setup, which is similar-ish to many others reporting the same issue, is as follows: Xbox connected to Samsung Q90t using HDMI port 3 (2.1-capable) with correct 2.1 cable, HDMI 2.1 cable from eArc port to Sonos Arc. This setup is meant to ensure that I do not miss out on VRR, VLL and other 2.1 goodness. Playing Atmos-enabled movies on the Samsungs native Netflix app works as it should, so my suspicion is that the Xbox, or perhaps the Dolby Access app on the Xbox, introduces something to the chain it is not supposed to. I saw another video that confirms that the TV set does not need to be put in passthrough-mode to actually pass through Atmos, I confirmed this by testing. But gaming has bad lag, almost half a scond. Playing BluRay discs has much less delay, but it is still there. I can't see that any of the tech-people on TH-cam are talking about this, have you heard of this before?
Is there a way I can get those readings for my own set-up, or do I need specialist equipment?
The problem I have is when watching movies , with volume at around 60%, the dialogue is great , but the explosions and music are extremely loud . Any tips ?
I battled with that issue for a while. I would have to watch movies with the remote in my hand. I recently relocated my sub. I think that resolved the issue.
That problem is usually when the sound engineers make the sound profile to be peaky at some frequencies. If you look at what I am trying to do, you will notice that I am trying to flatten out the curve. This should alleviate the problem of the explosions and music being too loud. In stock configuration and tune, the bass region is way too strong.
Another great comprehensive video, Peter, thank you! Question for you. In theory, would the size of the room play a factor in the outcome of the sound curves once you do the initial Trueplay? My Sonos system (same setup as this video) is in a very large room, so when I tune using Trueplay could it play a factor in this? So, for example, maybe my bass needs -2 and -1 (to help fill the room more) or something, and my heights might need one more notch up, for example? Or, do you believe the curve will still produce the same effects regardless of size? I guess I could also play around with this on my own. Thanks!
I can't live with - 2 bass I left it on +2 after truplay
another amazing video, Peter! But I tried these settings with the arc & 1 gen3 sub and I didn’t enjoy it. But that’s just me, I’m sure it sounds great with another sub and the fives as surround.
I have same setup, just tried these settings, feeling the base is a bit too low
Thank for the update. Hope to get my sub in future. Only afford to have sonos arc for now. 🤣
What’s the best settings for the arc on its own?
Great informative video! Always eager to learn more about the Sonos system settings! How does the height setting affect the positioning you recommended in your other past video? In terms of increasing height artificially by angling forward it a bit. Is that no longer recommended with this new height setting?
Good question!
Depending on your listening distance, the height can enhance the tilt (I'm using 1.5'' tilt). You should use test tones from Dolby for this, and find the volume where it's just before you can't tell if it's height or coming from the device itself (will make sense when you test). For me and my listening distance, 4 doesn't transfer to enough DB from reflective audio to tell - when everything else is chaos in the audio - so I run 6. However when I hit 8 it's so loud from the source (before reflection), it don't hear the height anymore when the atmos is 'loud'. So because 8 makes the height disappear to my ears (spatially), I bring it down 2 --- to have better DB range of quiet and loud sounds. In test tones, right now all my speakers from my listening position (at chosen volume) is 64DB - that's 64DB FR/LR/C/RR/RL, and with +6 Atmos, the up firing hit at 70DB... so just enough to be present, but not enough to wash the other speakers out. When I am watching Streaming Vs Lossless and DD vs DD+ vs DD+ Atmos vs TrueHD, I often have to tweak my surrounds as well.. but I have those values memorized, and they are +1/-1 tweaks.
Great Video Peter. I recently setup our home theater with an Arc, 2 Subs & Play 5's for the rears. I really enjoy your recommended settings for music, it was an improvement to my ears indeed! I only had to tweak the sub lvl up to -3 for our liking. My room is fully carpeted and Is 15x20 with 8 foot ceilings & these settings work great. I'm currently listening to Television with the same settings applied to see if it's also an improvement. I'm experimenting with the rears set to full not just ambient & my TV volume setting for the rears is set to +2. Are those 2 settings the same as yours as well? Full or ambient? And rear TV volume?
I'm pretty similar to you, I have the same setup but with Play 3's for rears and a 20x20 carpeted 8 foot ceiling room. I tweaked the sub lvl between -1 and -2 depending on the source audio. My rears are set to +3 since my rears are in the back of the room. It sounds great! I suspect I have to have a higher sub level than yours since the room is slightly larger.
Ive never thought of increasing treble as I always found the ARC quite harsh at first, although I have since put treble to 0, it was in negative while it was "bedding" in, going to try +3 I think. Peter are these setting ok for someone with just the ARC and a sub gen 3?
I might put the sub to -2 instead of -4 though and Im a little unsure about lowering the EQ bass, I have that on 0 currently.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Are you n't feeling something weird when u have to setup something in -ve to get basic frequencty curve straight...yes..product is really bad with vocals with bad ssssh sound...reviewers are easily bypassing bad product by telling to setup in weird -ve values instead talking Abt how bad the product is in terms of dsp processing
Would these settings still be recommended if you have the Arc + a pair One SLs (as surrounds) + 2 Gen 3 subs? Thank you for your videos, Mr. P!
Thanks for your help answering this question Tyler. Yes, the Fives add quite a bit of volume and bass so I did need to tune it down a little to ensure that the bass is not over powering the rest of the frequencies.
I guess getting a single sub set up is never going to happen . 😅
I tried Trueplay in my room and it absolutely ruined the sound from my Arc… I was SO disappointed!
One of Trueplay's function is to set the phase of the subs but phase is very easy to get wrong even with the expensive systems using Audessey or Diracc. And when the phase of a sub is set wrong, the sound can go horribly wrong. I second Tyler's suggestion of using another phone.
Hey Peter, what are you using to send test tones to the Sonos Arc. I have a SPL meter but there is no settings within the Sonos app to send test tones. It’s not like on my receiver where I can send test tones to each individual speaker and calibrate it that way…
The software that I am using to generate the test tones is REW. Room EQ wizard. The Arc is connected via Airplay. I am using a Mac to do the testing.
Has anyone figured out how to use the Phillip hue sync box with the Sonos ARC system?
Sure and it's pretty simple. Plug the hue box into the TV's HDMI and Sonos ARC to the TV's ARC HDMI. That's all. Works like a charm.
Another fantastic content, Peter! Thank you for the thorough testing and the detailed explanation.
My pleasure!
But FR curve will differ from room to room?
Thank you for that Video peter. I appreciate your effort. I have one question. Did you remove the magnets on the Sonos Arc wall mount?
Are these settings only for double sub set up?
I have Arc, (1)sub and (2) old school play 3 as surrounds
Cool. I am using two 3’s as my surrounds as well. I believe no need to use 5’s. Not for surrounds.
Brilliant 👍🏽love it keep it up bro
Thanks, will do!
I'm using 2 Sonos subs (1 front / 1 rear) wish I could control each subs output level.
Peter how about addressing the volume difference when going from tv to music or visa versa. Say my tv is set at 20 and when I go to music have raise volume to even hear it. Then when I go back to tv it will blast you out of the place. Shouldn’t volume levels be the same.
Do you still angle it towards the listening position?
I have a 15’ x14’ I getting a Sonos Arc, two gen 3 subs. My question to you is my room to small to get the Sonos 5’s for my surrounds. I mostly just watch movies and rarely play music. Thanks
Hi Peter , can you please share me the latest best sound setting for sonos arc + sub gen 3 + one’s for Sony A80J.
Also how to get the full sound from the TV to arc system ? Can I change any setting on TV to get the Dolby sound through eARC ?
Might have to listen again, but did you mean raising the volume as in cranking it up on the remote ? Or is it another in app setting ?
Sorry, not familiar with any of these settings or app for that matter.
This was awesome!!! I was actually hoping for an update like this, as it seemed like the frequency response had changed indeed since last year! Thank you so much!
Same setup here! Would be awesome to see if the settings with one sub do differ from the two sub settings
Hello Peter. I was wondering if you know anything about the issue of dropped audio while listening to Dolby Atmos on the Arc. I have an LG C1 and Sonos said the TV is dropping the audio signal. I dont know what to do because other than that I’m so happy with this speaker. Any ideas would be appreciated
Thank you so much for this video Peter, you’re the man! I had no clue what I was getting into purchasing this system and there’s a lot to turn. I was one of those people who thought you just “turned it on” lol. You’re very much appreciated!
Hi Peter, I have the ARC / SUB and Ones as sorround…… TV channel sound works well but when i switch to movies in Netflix / Prime etc the dialuges volume drops a lot and i land up increasing the vol to 35 to 40 against normal vol of abt 18…… I have done the true play settting 3 times but not helped. Any reccomendations………
I have the Arc and 2x1sl.
My room is about 10ft square and I sit about 7ft from the Arc..
What are the ideal settings?
Very helpful info with regards to knowing what settings adjust which parts of the frequency curve!
There seems to be a lot of variance on Trueplay results depending on the generation of device used so do you think these settings will be in the ballpark for most users or could it be totally different on a different IOS device?
Hi Peter, great explanation and settings. Do you think you could share the best settings for the ARC + SUB only, would appreciate it. Thanks
Can anyone make a suggestion on the best TV to use with the ARC. I read about LG's not being the best option. Any information is appreciated
So I have both the beam and arc. What would happen if used them both on my oled cx lol.. if possible
Dear master Peter, Please do a video for below scenario👇
I have Sonos Arc, One SL pair as rear surround & Sonos sub. Its give me 5.1.2 HT experience for Atmos enabled movies. But when listening songs, I only need 2.1 channels. Since Sonos is versatile & modular concept, I have 2 options to play 2.1 channels. First option is Arc+Sub, second option is 2xOneSL+sub. I want to know which option give better sound staging & better sound quality for music/song.
Need your technical advise...
Sorry for the late response. But for music, just use the Sonos One SL in stereo with the sub. No need testing. The fact that you can place the Ones much further apart is already a win.
Pete, I have to argue the advice to tilt the Arc forward to increase the Atmos effect. While the improvement is neglectable it will affecting noticeably the voice reproduction. Rather the overall performance of the Arc will improve decoupling it from the shelf with raising it of at least one inch while moving it as close as possible to its edge.
Is this still best settings with any recent updates that have happened since?.
Love the content please can you do a video on settings for arc + sub + 2 ones! 🙏🙏🙏
Hi Peter! Since Sonos just launched a clarity update for the Arc, perhaps you could make a video highlighting the differences with the new update, as well as updating best settings for the Arc with a single sub?
Best regards from Sweden!
On it! And the best regards from Singapore to Sweden!
Thank you so much for the work you put into the video, I think I understood most of what you said, haha. However, I am wondering what you would recommend for the Arc settings just on it’s own- no surround speakers, no subs.
For most parts, they should stay the same. Except that the surround channels you won't have to set as well as the sub. But for the bass, I would say set it to neutral first (0) and then adjust from there to suit your preference.
@@PeterPee Awesome, thank you!
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
I will give this a try. I have the exact same setup: Arc, Gen 3 sub, gen 2 sub, two Sonos fives. I am surprised that you are suggesting subs and bass to be set that low. I was kind of unimpressed by the bass from adding the second sub so I recently turned my sub to +2, bass to +1 and I have been happy with it. That being said it is in the middle of a huge room.
@@TylerTron21 I wonder how complex it would be to do the measurements myself. Maybe Peter will do a new video on what equipment to buy or rent to do the measurements and adjustments.
Ignore this fake "audiophile". The in-room response is supposed to have higher bass than treble with an overall downward slope. This "flat" notion is misunderstood. It's supposed to be flat in following the downward slope. Rtings test to Harman target curve. Please don't use these settings and turn your setup into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
with sub level set to -4 you also change the crossover point, which you are not able to change. so you end up in a lack of bass in the former crossover region. please consider that before changing the sublevel. maybe the sonos dsp compensate for that.
and the very important message….nobody appreciate and enjoy to hear a flat frequency response curve. there is a difference between flat and linear system setup.
As usual, another informative video Peter! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I also love the new simplified on-screen graphic as it is much easier to understand.
This is all very well, and appreciated, but most homes are carpet, so the sound is more muffled. These settings are for an echoing room, so these settings aren’t enough in a ‘normal’ living room environment. Can we have settings for them too please
Curious what you recommend for surround levels when you have two sonos one sl’s
Hi Peter, I have a straightforward question. Between a Sonos Arc, Sennheiser Ambeo and Samsung Q950A, which would you buy?
You have to take it that I am a bit biased and I’d choose the Sonos Arc. For me, it’s a matter of having the modularity of the Sonos eco-system and ability to add and extend the functionality for years after.
You are amazing. U make soooo much detailed videos, it's so rich in knowledge
Thanks for all the good videos.
You are a nice person !
Did this new profile come about as a result of the latest firmware update for the height channels?
Thanks Peter for this great video. Our family agree with the settings but we keep arguing about the right volume setting. What is your suggestion?
Ha! Let me guess, the guys in the house wants it louder and the ladies want it a notch lower? Haha. I have that problem too. I think volume is a matter of preference individually but I think everyone at home is cool with about 30-40 in my room. But that's for my family and my room la.
Peter, great job. How would these settings change if a pair of latest Sonos One is used instead of PLAY 5 for the surround sound? May be an estimste based on key difference between play 5 and thr One.
I wouldn't say you want to change the settings too much. If anything, you can prop the bass up just 1 or 2 more notches but the rest should stay. The Fives don't really push much more bass when used in the surround setting.
Which iPhone was used for trueplay?
Peter I hope you read this as I would like your advice. I currently have a Arc + Sub + 2x play 1
I am now trying to decide if I get a second sub or replace the play 1s with two sonos 5s ... you advice would be appreciated
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
I have read tons of negative reviews on Google Playstore and on several online fora about the unusability of Sonos S2 platform. Especially that S2 is full of bugs whereby speakers/sub/arc all lose connection to WiFi during music playback and one must reset and run through the setup for every use. Has this also been your experience when using S2? I was considering investing in a Sonos ecosystem (given the high ratings for Sonos hardware), but the many negative reviews of the S2 app make me question whether it is really worthwhile. Appreciate any feedback from you or anybody on here who has used S2. Cheers
The losing of connection has happened to me before on the S2 platform. In the earlier years, S1 has also gotten into that mess before. But in general, it is still stable. And if we look at the prior development of S1, I can expect S2 to get better over time too.
To give you an idea, in the past 1 year, I had to do that twice. Which I think is bearable. And one of the times was when I switched out the device which was connected to the LAN.
Thanks Peter, do you know if clicking reset on the Sonos arc or sub also reset trueplay?
Your videos convinced me to buy a pairs of five’s, but I’m struggling with being happy with your adviced settings in this video. I have a gen 2 sub and a sonos arc, I get a lot of volume when I turn the sub off, with sub I need to push the sub +4-5 to get the same volume as without sub. Do you you have any advice?
Which sonos software version are you on? Are you on 14.12?
@@PeterPee Exactly, 14.12.
Thank you for your efforts 😊👍
Hey Peter great video. Any settings ? for the ones that don’t like the loudness on. I find it too boomy even past 25 volume.
In Home theatre setup as surrounds, if you don't like the Ones with their boom, you can reduce the surround levels.
The last settings were awesome. Can't wait to try these. Is it resetting true play with each firmware?
Hi and thanks for the great videos but where do I adjust the Heights?
These settings are good for Atmos sound on movies but are they good for Atmos on Tidal or Apple Music?
If you are able to get TRUE atmos to output on Tidal and Apple music then yes. The only way I know now is to use Apple music on an Apple TV 4K. Else even if you set everything to Atmos on your phone and you connect through Airplay or use Sonos S2 app, you are not actually getting Atmos. Just regular 2 channel but using all the channels 'upscaled'.
Good education video. Checking which equipment brand / model u using to measure frequency chart, thank you.
I am using a Umik-1 running off a Mac and REW software.
My evolution with sonos:
-Too expensive its not worth it
-buying sonos arc too avoid buying a sub
-gf give me two sonos one for surround effect
-Want to buy a sub to complete my setting
-being upset coz sub gen3 is sold out
My gosh, that sub Gen 3 is still sold out after a year?
@@PeterPee yes hard to find or you have to be very patient
I have one other question. When you used true play, did you have loudness engaged or not and would it make a difference in the final setting one way or the other?
It actually doesn't matter.
I am running a gen 1 and a gen 3 sub in my set up. They are placed in a diagonal configuration; front left corner and rear right corner both have the opening facing the wall rather than the room. Would there be any benefit in placing the gen 3 in either particular location? Also, if you do a modem, but NOT a router change, will it effect functionality of the system? Thank you Peter.
No need to make any settings changes if you are not changing the router. For the placement of the subs, I would say for most people, a diagonal placement across the room will provide the most even bass coverage.
Thanks Peter. Another question please. When settings are adjusted for “the Arc” in a home theatre set-up, do those changes in bass and treble also apply to the surrounds? Can the surrounds be fine tuned other that relative volume and full or partial frequency? Ty!!
Any chance of something similar for the Beam with and with out surrounds and with a sub?
I am currently planning for that video and doing the testing. Do wait for that video!
Defined settings will change in every room. Peter's room is not your room. Peter's placement is not your placement. He uses Fives you may use ones. Nothing in audio is written in stone because our environments also play a major factor to the listening experience. Do you have carpet, do you have hardwood, do you have tile etc. What about ceiling heights or shapes.? Always thinks before you apply such sorceries and if you do test, mark down the settings your coming from so you can reverse it.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
@@akashmakkar7187 Perhaps you can suggest some alternate settings, based on Dr. Floyds book that we can try. Otherwise, your repeated Copy and Paste argument makes you come across as a bright sounding, bass shy troll.
@@ralphbell1786 Instead of trusting random people to give you some magic settings, just trust the company that has done rigorous R&D. Do Trueplay and live with that for a week or two without tweaking. See how you like it. Tweak bass or treble after that. Use test tones to verify that all channels have similar volume levels. Night Mode on is optional based on your needs. Loudness compensation keep on. It's a dynamic setting based in audio science that's rightly enabled by default. That's it. Don't butcher your soundbar with misguided "audiophile'" settings.
Just sub'd to your channel; your videos are awesome!
If you see this comment (or anyone else who wants to weigh in), I currently have the Nakamichi Shockwafe 9.2.4 system and I was thinking about replacing it with a Sonos system. The Shockwafe is pretty good, but the vocals tend to sound fairly thin and while the subs will certainly rattle the walls, they're a little muddy. I know you'd probably support doing the switch on the basis of wireless surrounds, but putting that aside (I don't really mind the RCA cables) and just judging on sound quality alone, do you think it's worth doing the switch? I'd really value your input or that of anyone else who has heard both of these. I haven't heard the Sonos system in person and I'd love to get someone else's perspective before I head down the Sonos rabbit hole lol.
Sean, I'd like to see you at the bottom of this rabbit hole where I am. :D
I can't really judge this because I do not have experience with the Nakamichi. If the Nakamichi allows you to tune the sound or EQ it, you should try that first. Boost the mids and reduce the bass. It should make the speech more intelligible and reduce the boom.
Otherwise, my only comment on the Arc with a sub setup is that no one I have recommended the setup to before has complained of the sound quality. Although you might find the Atmos effect underwhelming if you are coming from a 9.2.4 setup!
@@PeterPee Thanks Peter! I've already got the Arc soundbar coming to do a comparison of the soundbars themselves without the surrounds, will go from there. The EQ is one of the reasons; Nakamichi lets you use presets on the remote but there's no real comprehensive EQ. One of the reasons I'm considering taking the Sonos leap. Doing it one step at a time.
Your channel is truly awesome. I've checked a lot of audio channels on youtube as I've started to get into it and yours is by far the best.
Are these settings applicable to the standard setup? 1 Arc, 1 Sub Gen 3 and 2 One SLs?
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Im glad i hung in there. I as 100% not agreeing with anything, but knew i should listen. Cant wait to tweak mine in the a.m.
Let us know how it goes! Take it as the baseline to get the curve flat (at least for my room) and then you can tweak from there dialing in small changes.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Is it still necessary to angle the arc sound bar with these settings and the atmos height adjustment update?
Direction is different from volume. You can try the volume adjustments first to see if it makes a difference and you’re happy with it. It’s a much easier thing to change!
@@PeterPee thank you will do
You are my favorite youtuber ily
I have Arc and 1 sub, no surrounds.. Are these settings still the best? Great work Peter
No way it works for the arc alone
@@davidc.7838 have you tried it?
@@ComicalMusic no, i have the full set up but when I turn off the sub and the 2 SLs the sound of the arc (obviously) changes tremendously, personally I don’t like the how the arc sounds by itself
@@davidc.7838 sorry, I have Arc and a sub. Would you recommend using these setting's or does it only apply if surrounds are part of setup?
Currently I haven't changed any settings in eq since I got it..
@@ComicalMusic I think it worth the try, I am sure you will find the correct sound for you. I haven’t changed the settings either. Maybe I’ll give it a try today. Good luck!
Amazing thank you!
I found these settings inadequate for my Arc, Gen 2 Sub and Play One surrounds...had to revert to the settings I had been using which highlights each individual component and how they interplay with each other.
Thanks for the feedback Tony. I recognise that the settings won't work for everyone. My room is kind of active and there is a chance that your room might be quieter and better controlled in terms of echos and reverbs. So if that's the case, my settings might come across as dry to your ears.
@@PeterPee To start: You have the best TH-cam content for Sonos users, period. Now regarding the settings I use for my Sonos Arc, Play:1 rears and Gen 2 Sub - I am trying to create a sound that I can enjoy both music and TV with. That's a very difficult task and I wish the Sonos app would allow us to program multiple settings somewhat like a traditional system does (Stereo, Theater, Concert Hall, etc.) without having to reset them every time.
@@tonyz376 The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
@@akashmakkar7187 I tried his settings and they were horrible.
Thanks Peter, very informative. Any chance of something similar for the Beam?
Yes, soon. Working on it. Planning and testing.
@@PeterPee great, thank you
Peter, thanks so much for your ongoing tutaledge! I learn so much from you. Forgive me, in being new to all this, if I don't understand how your calibration specs are relevant to my room? I'm guessing, that the curves you are referring to are Universal, regardless? Would this be correct?
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
@@akashmakkar7187 are there some basic settings, for a baseline, to then adjust off of per the room? I've been using his settings and have to say it sounds good. I just bump my sub and the EQ base up a bit.
@@akashmakkar7187 Whoa! I put everything back to flat in the S2 app, bumped the Sub up a bit, backed the EQ bass down slightly; the overall sound is much better. Thanks Akash!
@@Subjective_JoshNelson That's the way to go, buddy. You're buying a product made by people who take audio engineering quite seriously. Trust them first and then adjust for taste. Bass slightly higher with EQ at default is perfectly fine. Have you done Trueplay?
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Thank you Peter!!
Im sure that everybody buying dual subs wants less bass.. Thx.
I have one sub and Peters settings are still a total game changer.
It’s not about less bass, it’s about optimal EQ/a great starting point ;)
@@Licks61SG Instead of turning off bass boost Peter fiddled with all those settings to get basically the same effect..
@@g33s0n6656 I also have one sub. Turning off bass boost gives similar results.. +3 treble depends on the acoustics of your room tho
Good video.
Can you share the best settings for the ARC as a standalone? much appreciated, love your vids! greetings from Malaysia
I agree I like settings Also for standalone. As I am waiting for mine to come.
Great info as ALWAYS !
So should we remove the lift we gave the arc for the height speakers to reach u? Or leave it as is . Should we retune again ? If we remove the door stoppers ?
@@TylerTron21 i get that . But I want to see what he says - if he suggests- I have high cielings . I wonder will it make it better or is just ok to do without . Thanks for the reply
Peter you are a gem.
The flat target repsonse is supposed to be there only in anechoic chamber! In-room response is supposed to slope down. Avoid his settings like plague. Otherwise, you're turning your Arc into a bright sounding, bass shy mess.
Ok, I tried the settings that are suggested and.. WOW! The dialogue just cleared up so nicely. You don't have to keep turning your system up and down when the dialogue stops and action begins. Peter, I love what you do. Do these settings also work if you're listening to stereo PCM music sources?
I also enjoy the power of my Sonos system. When you raise the volume everything is so balanced with no distortion or listening fatigue! The height channel adjustment is magical. Dolby Atmos is downright amazing now.
Thank you!
Hi William, the goal is to ensure that the sound volume feels more consistent and yet preserves ALL the dynamic range of each frequency. And because the final tune is flat, it will work well for music as well. If you are into bassy tracks and music, you might want to just pump up the bass just a tad more when it comes to music.
@@PeterPee thank you Peter so much. And please send your Patreon link to me. I think you do great work and I'd treat you to coffee and croissant any time! 😂
My other question is if the flat response depends on the height Channel to be elevated, then won't the stereo channel output suffer some upper mid-range and high frequency response if the stereo channel doesn't use the height speakers of the Arc?