Well the best way is to compare the official weights. For the F87 M2 Comp it is 1650 kg (EU) and for the G87 M2 Auto it is 1800 kg (EU). EU weight= 75 kg included for Driver (68kg) and luggage (7gk). So the G87 ist 150 kg heavier. Official weight for OG F87 M2 is 1595 kg (EU)
The old M2 as well as the F20/F21 it's based on were also based on the same construction kit as the F30/F32(3/4 Series). (The new M2 gen shares more common parts with the M3/M4 than the old one did though) The whole F Gen was just a lot lighter than the G series(3/4), which is just derived from the CLAR platform, BMW introduced with the G30. So the current 3 series is just a chopped down 5 series hence it's why it is so heavy and big compared to F series 3/4.
@@Lars._That thing is gorgeous. I hope they produce it. I would pay a fortune for that car if it has the m4/m3 i6, or even the detuned one from this m2.
@@DexxonGamer77 yeah I always wonder why manufacturers don’t produce a lot of their beautiful one-offs, another example: the Lamborghini Estoque why not? 1000 times better than a Urus
100-200km/h in 8.5 sec is really fast. Neck and neck with a g80 M3 comp xdrive, faster than the C63 S and Alfa Giulia QV, and almost a whole second faster than the new rs3
Personally I think the “new M2s” biggest issue is that the old one was so good. I haven’t been lucky enough to drive either the new one or the old one, so take my thoughts with a huge grain of slat. I don’t hate the looks of the new M2, it is just that the old one was prettier to the point of being close to visual perfection, one of the all time prettiest BMWs, with the likes of the E46 M3 (in my opinion). The rear seat is there, but according to what have seen, heard and read, the old one had a much more usable backseat with more headroom. I actually like the older iDrive system more than the new ones, I think the bigger screens just isn’t for me and I don’t find them esthetically pleasing while I don’t really care all that much about having a larger screen, because when I drive my cars I drive. Again the new M2 isn’t bad and I like it, but the old one was just so good that it is “better”. But I probably some what controversially, prefer a good modern torque converter automatics to a DCT, modern Automatics are capable of very quick shifts and more livable / less jerky at fine maneuvering at crawling speeds.
I had the honor to drive an M2 CS (previous gen, obviously) for two days and they are divine to drive. Pure bliss. I had an absolute blast and drove more than 2000km in those two days, lol. They look amazing, too, much nicer than this one in my opinion. The reason I got to drive it is because my car was in for repairs and they didn't have a loaner anymore, while my contract states they are obligated to provide one. I know the guy who owns that dealership a bit and so he let me borrow their M2 CS show car as a loaner, after which I immediately called my work and told them I wouldn't be coming in for two days of course. I've driven quite a few very fast cars, a bunch of them faster than an M2 CS, but still that one remains one of the most engaging and fun driving experiences so far, except for the 991.2 Porsche 911 GT3 and a (tuned) Lotus Elise set up for track use
Im still on the fence about this. I feel its a good platform for tuning especially bodykits. I like the way the front and side profiles look, especially that square bumper, and rear arches. However, the rear is just terrible. I cant stand the tailights or those squared off edges in the rear bumper. However, the largest problem is the weight. I cant get around this small Car weighing more then a v10 M5. I just cant imagine it driving as good as the old m2 or 1m with that weight. The largest problem, you can get a m2cs with under 5k kilometers for the price of a well speccd m2, and the old m2cs is 10x the Car. Same power, 200kg less, and gorgeous in my opinion.
So I daily drive an X5 M50i and the G87 is a discount M4, which is exactly what I was looking for the weekends. So for me, the M2 makes perfect sense. Lease payments on the G87 are about half of the G82 at the moment.
Don’t know what you’re complaining about. This car performs like a M4, looks much better compared to a M4 and costs much less than this. Great deal for the customer 👍
I’d be interested to know which M2 you think is the one to buy and keep and which gearbox. Drove an N55 manual car and really liked it and also really liked the DCT comp
I hope BMW pays a little more for a custom display fitted inside a binnacle. I realize though that this single display kind of tossed up on the dash saves them a ton of money.
Went to dealer yesterday to see if it fits me. Light blue specimen was parked next to black M3 and M4, did not even look at those, only had eyes for the M2. Was lucky to get a test drive and oh man, I never owned a performance car so, easy to impress I guess, but wow so good. Test car had the bucket seats which is not for my 6ft 9" bone structure. Also sat in the normal seats and that's also tight but hey I'm also like all the sinners reading this, also have needs, no pain no gain. Love the M5 but G87 M2 is best buy out there, can buy one and something for the wife for the price of an M5, and everone is happy
@AutoTopNL maybe a good video for the future would be the new G87 M2 before and after racechip installation. That would be very interesting… 👌👌 Love the videos ❤️
You need to stop killing bugs, look at the front bumper 🙂 Just like the F22/f87 you do feel like you seat heigh but I think it's just a feeling from the good visibility out.
The dash is too distracting to have a car that can go that speed, it's not a USS enterprize you need to focus on the road to get the most enjoyment from this fast car but that dash is dangerous as
I would go for a manual M4, prefer the exterior styling, doorcards on the M2 look cheap and you miss out on the Full Merino leather. You can also get the buckets with some great colours. Finally the hood is so high and flat in the M2, when I testdrove it, it felt like I was driving a tank
Driven both G87 and G42, I think the M240i without xDrive is more fun and a better daily. It has less traction which means you have a way tailhappier rear end. But it can be very quiet without any drama and an acceptable fuel economy. The M2 is a head turner, you never fly under the radar. It is too perfect for everyday fun due to the strong and grippy M4 rear internals, but therefore a lot more suitable for proper track action. Both can be equally comfortable though in my opinion. So my choice would be: Fun = G42 M240i Performance = G87
@@szodraigergo4008 No, the RWD is 1715kg and 1775 for the M2. Offical bmw data. 60kg and 86hp difference. You can even safe much weight on the wheels on the m2. The m2 is the much better deal.
I think the triangles are bmws design language. Almost like lamborghini and their hexagons. I mean if you look at all concept bmws they all showcase triangles for some reason
17:57 Damn Dutch people driving 100km/h everywhere they go, including abroad, lol. I see it in Belgium constantly as well. Yes, I know, it's completely legal. It interrupts the flow of the traffic so much if the official speed in the country is higher than that though. I don't know why they have all of the sudden decided to drive at that speed abroad, too. I'm Dutch as well but I drive in Belgium and Germany frequently and it's really annoying. If in Belgium or Germany you see an entire row of cars one behind the other driving 100km/h, you can bet money on it that there will be a Dutch car driving in front holding everyone up because our new (way too slow) maximum speed of 100km/h in the Netherlands has apparently now become the maximum speed in all countries or something
Sorry Brother but You loose one point for a tunnel fail (Guy Rule Number 7 you must roll the window down and punch it in any and all tunnels). Great vid
This car performs better than the old one in every aspect you can imagine. BMW really did an amazing job on this one. The funny part is that almost every naysayer has never even driven this car to truly give any valuable opinion on this subject 😂.
the biggest problem is the way higher price compared to the old one - and the looks.. for me its just ugly and i thought of buying one before it came out, the old was was beautiful... tho now i completly gave up cuz i dont like it (besides the interior that is equivalent to my 340d) and the weight is not far away either
The problems of the G87 compared to the F87: it’s taking away the emotions. Not only through sound. It’s the more mature car but that also means that the F87 is the better drivers car when it comes to having fun.
I don't have am M4, not planning to get M4. This is M2, different car, different price, some similarity, what's the problem? Didn't get the annoying complains and references... Otherwise good review.
This car has had so much hate for its looks, but I instantly fell in love with it the moment that I saw it. Dream car for sure!
I personally love the look of this car.
this is the realistic dream car the real dream is the GT3
@@jakejasperfox8368 I agree!
@jakejasperfox8368 I mean I will def be getting one of these but I my country they go for 70k-100k so def a pretty penny
This car looks sick in the rear-view mirror
Right? It was that moment when i thought: wow that looks sick 🔥
The actual weight difference between this and f87 comp is 70kg , M2 f87 competition is 1655kg on a scale with full tank.
Yeah,my M2C was 1650kg without full tank 😅
Yea 200kg seemed unreasonable.
OG M2 is around 1560kg
@@Dokepredator 1600kg with full tank
Well the best way is to compare the official weights. For the F87 M2 Comp it is 1650 kg (EU) and for the G87 M2 Auto it is 1800 kg (EU). EU weight= 75 kg included for Driver (68kg) and luggage (7gk). So the G87 ist 150 kg heavier. Official weight for OG F87 M2 is 1595 kg (EU)
The old M2 as well as the F20/F21 it's based on were also based on the same construction kit as the F30/F32(3/4 Series). (The new M2 gen shares more common parts with the M3/M4 than the old one did though) The whole F Gen was just a lot lighter than the G series(3/4), which is just derived from the CLAR platform, BMW introduced with the G30. So the current 3 series is just a chopped down 5 series hence it's why it is so heavy and big compared to F series 3/4.
Still the best looking new bmw I've seen yet.
Way to lay the bait!
Ever seen the pictures of the Z4 touring concept coupé?
Honestly, once i got used ot it. I like it! All they should do is just fix the weight problem.
@@Lars._That thing is gorgeous. I hope they produce it. I would pay a fortune for that car if it has the m4/m3 i6, or even the detuned one from this m2.
@@DexxonGamer77 yeah I always wonder why manufacturers don’t produce a lot of their beautiful one-offs, another example: the Lamborghini Estoque why not? 1000 times better than a Urus
Tuning potentials are crazy with this chassis ❤
m2 in matte grey looks badass. the extreme body lines look more pronounced and give it such a mean look.
I'll be honest, I'm glad you said it's similar to the M4. Kind of want one just because of that.
I like the appearance of this 2 series. At least the grille is well proportioned
The felling seeing it in real life is wayyy betterr!!!
disagree saw one today, still prefer the old cs much more
same@@joaoruxa
best car now you can buy. it has so much road presence. crazy
i absolutely love mine but if i had one complaint, the gearing in the six speed is veryyy long. so it actually feels slower than the ZF imo.
100-200km/h in 8.5 sec is really fast. Neck and neck with a g80 M3 comp xdrive, faster than the C63 S and Alfa Giulia QV, and almost a whole second faster than the new rs3
That's not really fast. my OG M2 stage2 with N55 engine did 9sec flat to 100-200kmpu.
Fast is under 7sec
@@tinodeblier5694stage 2 bruh. It's stock.
@@currycel470 have only a intercooler downpipe and remap on my M2 f87
This S58 in the new M2 is seriously downtuned for my opinium.
Don’t compare this with the Giulia qv, they are very different
Yeah I'd say this is fast! It's bone stock, stage 2 this and well......let's see🙄
"late to the party" but still the only review I wanna watch 💪🏼
What a lovely boat
Mine just arrived today in Toronto red with track pack, and manual ofcourse!
You 'ré Lucky.enjoy your drive
Perfect spec ❤
@@philippelemaire2887 Thank you, goes so well!
@@valentingarampon3679 Most definitely!
This might be my favorite BMW since e92 m3.
Personally I think the “new M2s” biggest issue is that the old one was so good.
I haven’t been lucky enough to drive either the new one or the old one, so take my thoughts with a huge grain of slat.
I don’t hate the looks of the new M2, it is just that the old one was prettier to the point of being close to visual perfection, one of the all time prettiest BMWs, with the likes of the E46 M3 (in my opinion).
The rear seat is there, but according to what have seen, heard and read, the old one had a much more usable backseat with more headroom.
I actually like the older iDrive system more than the new ones, I think the bigger screens just isn’t for me and I don’t find them esthetically pleasing while I don’t really care all that much about having a larger screen, because when I drive my cars I drive.
Again the new M2 isn’t bad and I like it, but the old one was just so good that it is “better”.
But I probably some what controversially, prefer a good modern torque converter automatics to a DCT, modern Automatics are capable of very quick shifts and more livable / less jerky at fine maneuvering at crawling speeds.
بي ام دبليو ....اوقفت المصمم العراقي الذي صمم ام 2 القديمة ...الجميلة ...اعيدوه ارجوكم
I had the honor to drive an M2 CS (previous gen, obviously) for two days and they are divine to drive. Pure bliss. I had an absolute blast and drove more than 2000km in those two days, lol. They look amazing, too, much nicer than this one in my opinion. The reason I got to drive it is because my car was in for repairs and they didn't have a loaner anymore, while my contract states they are obligated to provide one. I know the guy who owns that dealership a bit and so he let me borrow their M2 CS show car as a loaner, after which I immediately called my work and told them I wouldn't be coming in for two days of course. I've driven quite a few very fast cars, a bunch of them faster than an M2 CS, but still that one remains one of the most engaging and fun driving experiences so far, except for the 991.2 Porsche 911 GT3 and a (tuned) Lotus Elise set up for track use
I ordered one in Toronto Red with Track Pack, cant wait 🙌🏻
The review I was waiting for 🔥🔥🔥🔥😍
Im still on the fence about this. I feel its a good platform for tuning especially bodykits. I like the way the front and side profiles look, especially that square bumper, and rear arches. However, the rear is just terrible. I cant stand the tailights or those squared off edges in the rear bumper. However, the largest problem is the weight. I cant get around this small Car weighing more then a v10 M5. I just cant imagine it driving as good as the old m2 or 1m with that weight. The largest problem, you can get a m2cs with under 5k kilometers for the price of a well speccd m2, and the old m2cs is 10x the Car. Same power, 200kg less, and gorgeous in my opinion.
New platform is a 1/4 1/2 mile drag strip setup
@@James__bond007that's all that people care about nowadays
test drive it.
Go and buy it then!
Please dont review cars when you're in such a bad mood dude. It's a masterpiece - you just was having bad foggy day in the Netherlands. Cheers
So I daily drive an X5 M50i and the G87 is a discount M4, which is exactly what I was looking for the weekends. So for me, the M2 makes perfect sense. Lease payments on the G87 are about half of the G82 at the moment.
Don’t know what you’re complaining about.
This car performs like a M4, looks much better compared to a M4 and costs much less than this.
Great deal for the customer 👍
Fantastic car🎉 I will buy one in the next weeks!
Car has the potential to become my dream car
Deze video’s zijn rust gevend ga zo door en rij voorzichtig🙏🏽
This is the best M ever .
10:27 i just find it so funny the way he says "Horsiees :D What's up??"
just love the reviews
what action camera do you use? Video quality is awesome!
Max we love you for your honesty and sincerity. ❤
You were the reason to buy a Boxster 4cylinder. 😅
I had massive prejudices but now I love it.
I like the looks it has so much road presence, imo looks better than M4
You put hate on every new BMW 😂 let's be happy that there are still such cars available. In 10 years we will miss those cars...
I’d be interested to know which M2 you think is the one to buy and keep and which gearbox. Drove an N55 manual car and really liked it and also really liked the DCT comp
RWD manual
The best launch control is a good driver's left foot operating a clutch pedal.
The patience I have had up until this video was released 😂
I'd still have that off in my 520D msport 63 plate, with new Euro car part wipers.
I saw an M2 at the dealership, then looked for an m2 autotop video on youtube. It is the exact car that is for sale. € 89.750 @ Story Nijmegen.
I hope BMW pays a little more for a custom display fitted inside a binnacle. I realize though that this single display kind of tossed up on the dash saves them a ton of money.
Love your reviews
Wow what a beauty
my m2 just arrived . need to get some paper works done before collecting it. cant wait.
Amazing car!
Its obviously one of the best allaround cars right now, but the weight and the looks are a bit of a problem.
The problem with that m240i is that you have a open rooftop and it doesn't have the sporttyres. I guess then it would be much better
Went to dealer yesterday to see if it fits me. Light blue specimen was parked next to black M3 and M4, did not even look at those, only had eyes for the M2. Was lucky to get a test drive and oh man, I never owned a performance car so, easy to impress I guess, but wow so good. Test car had the bucket seats which is not for my 6ft 9" bone structure. Also sat in the normal seats and that's also tight but hey I'm also like all the sinners reading this, also have needs, no pain no gain. Love the M5 but G87 M2 is best buy out there, can buy one and something for the wife for the price of an M5, and everone is happy
@AutoTopNL maybe a good video for the future would be the new G87 M2 before and after racechip installation. That would be very interesting… 👌👌 Love the videos ❤️
You need to stop killing bugs, look at the front bumper 🙂
Just like the F22/f87 you do feel like you seat heigh but I think it's just a feeling from the good visibility out.
Smurf blue 💙
The dash is too distracting to have a car that can go that speed, it's not a USS enterprize you need to focus on the road to get the most enjoyment from this fast car but that dash is dangerous as
The F87 M2 comp was seen as a improved smaller version of the F82 as well. They were also around the same weight as well. Same concept
beautiful small beast, the last of the last...
Will this have a competition package?
I'm thinking about it Max! 🤔👍🏾
the last shorter 3er was the compact, great car if in blue and m sport
Lmao i love when you rant about the triangles
So gorgeous
I would go for a manual M4, prefer the exterior styling, doorcards on the M2 look cheap and you miss out on the Full Merino leather. You can also get the buckets with some great colours. Finally the hood is so high and flat in the M2, when I testdrove it, it felt like I was driving a tank
So… M240i or M2? Which one do you like more… @AutoTopNL
Driven both G87 and G42, I think the M240i without xDrive is more fun and a better daily. It has less traction which means you have a way tailhappier rear end. But it can be very quiet without any drama and an acceptable fuel economy. The M2 is a head turner, you never fly under the radar. It is too perfect for everyday fun due to the strong and grippy M4 rear internals, but therefore a lot more suitable for proper track action. Both can be equally comfortable though in my opinion. So my choice would be: Fun = G42 M240i
Performance = G87
True. But the M2 is way betterin terms of resell value.
I think CCB’s will be offered in a competition version or CS
Epic 😍
Be careful when going that fast through a blind corner at 17:00.
Another truck could be overtaking there, leaving no room for you.
Good brakes😂
BMW M440i or M2? Both cars cost the same. M2 is smaller but has more hp. What do you think?
I ordered the seats on mine, dummy loaded. I believe the carbon is delaying cars as I just went back to order received from being scheduled
Objectively the G87 is the better car compared to the F87.
But I had more fun driving the F87. It is what it is.
Is that shift sound normal?
7:30 these seats are optional, as far as I remember from configuring one. You can opt for even more extreme seats.
He mentioned this much earlier in the video already
and that's why i will buy only the M240i much better all around 👍 and bang for your back 🏆thank you B58 with stage one 💥🚀
This graphics much better then in new Forza Mototorsport =)
Will there be a cs version coming?
There it is, been looking out for this! Very cool, guys. Gotta review this bad boy myself one day…
are you guys gonna review the new fiesta ST? would be cool to see it the last time
Fiesta :)
is it possible to gen the power of an m3 or m4 ? i mean the basics are the same, so why not? :D
the M240i with RWD is a better choice I think
Better looking much lighter and of course cheaper
much lighter??
nah bro, the m2 is def. the better option. The only 240 reason is the price point
@@Errost5 The M240i RWD version is 1635 kilos.The manual M2 is 1700KG and the one with automatic is 1725KG
almost 100 kilos so yeah it’s much lighter
@@szodraigergo4008 No, the RWD is 1715kg and 1775 for the M2. Offical bmw data.
60kg and 86hp difference. You can even safe much weight on the wheels on the m2. The m2 is the much better deal.
@@Errost5 exactly
@@Errost5
Interesting
My sources were carwow and autodata
Maybe BMW “Lied” with the weight just like they doing with HP?
What do you think?
5:29 it gives a 2069 vibe in my opinion
Its Amazing 🎉
I prefer the M2 CS. More beautiful.
I wait this m2 in autobahn
What a great sounding car 😂 The new C23 doesn't deserve the C63 badge, this M2 is also not an M2. Shame on both manufacturers!
Amazing looking m2
I want to buy a 718 GTS 4.0, but this is catching my eye to, which one should I buy?
Always Porsche
Nice
How much nicer that frot compared to de SUPER FUGLY M3/4
Could you make a review on the new electric car called zeekr 001?
I think the triangles are bmws design language. Almost like lamborghini and their hexagons. I mean if you look at all concept bmws they all showcase triangles for some reason
I wonder how much quicker this would be 100-200 with the lighter M3 or M3 CS wheels. That time is pretty close to the X-Drive Competition.
17:57 Damn Dutch people driving 100km/h everywhere they go, including abroad, lol. I see it in Belgium constantly as well. Yes, I know, it's completely legal. It interrupts the flow of the traffic so much if the official speed in the country is higher than that though. I don't know why they have all of the sudden decided to drive at that speed abroad, too. I'm Dutch as well but I drive in Belgium and Germany frequently and it's really annoying. If in Belgium or Germany you see an entire row of cars one behind the other driving 100km/h, you can bet money on it that there will be a Dutch car driving in front holding everyone up because our new (way too slow) maximum speed of 100km/h in the Netherlands has apparently now become the maximum speed in all countries or something
While it's popular with most fans, I'm not a big fan of the new dash. I prefer them to be integrated
Sorry Brother but You loose one point for a tunnel fail (Guy Rule Number 7 you must roll the window down and punch it in any and all tunnels). Great vid
115k? Ridiculous, give me a used Porsche or AMG V8 any day of the week.
Yeah there all cars are way more expensive than even Germany
I found some of these m2s for 80k
This car performs better than the old one in every aspect you can imagine. BMW really did an amazing job on this one. The funny part is that almost every naysayer has never even driven this car to truly give any valuable opinion on this subject 😂.
the biggest problem is the way higher price compared to the old one - and the looks.. for me its just ugly and i thought of buying one before it came out, the old was was beautiful... tho now i completly gave up cuz i dont like it (besides the interior that is equivalent to my 340d) and the weight is not far away either
The problems of the G87 compared to the F87: it’s taking away the emotions. Not only through sound. It’s the more mature car but that also means that the F87 is the better drivers car when it comes to having fun.
Im sure once they release the M2 Competition carbon ceramics will be available
when I was young , I wore that color ... but I was 18 months old .
I don't have am M4, not planning to get M4. This is M2, different car, different price, some similarity, what's the problem? Didn't get the annoying complains and references... Otherwise good review.
It drives like any other G8X, that’s the problem. Drive an F87 and you will see what’s the problem…
Precious
I still hate the big screen
Artık video başında verileri vermiyorsunuz neden
Gotta love people's driving in Germany. In Canada there's always more people in the left lane than the right lane. Too much ego in North America.