Fayze well I know THAT lol, I just didn’t know it had different release dates... what I truly was thinking was that it is somehow available online or for DL on like the Pirate Bay or something like that, and I could get in on that action... OR, just VOD and I could pay for it and watch it in the comfort of my living room. But again, the promos I saw said ONLY IN THEATERS, so I wasn’t sure if something changed. I’m sure this film is one you appreciate WAY more by experiencing it in the theater but since I’m just busting to see it, I would watch it on my tv if I could do so right now
@@remphey nah man, less is more in that scene. You don't see it graphicly which means your brain imagines what it would feel like. More savage. Think earcutting scene from Res Dogs.
@@paulhood365 I got that same feeling back watching The Dark Knight, when the Joker is holding the knife in Gamble's mouth, the first time he tells how he got the scars. The camera cuts away when he kills him but you feel it just the same
@@soberunboxing4837 After Nolan starts filming, he'll have to wait for Warner Brothers to give him the "blue" light. (As opposed to the usual "green" light.)
Another fun easter egg: the duration of the story is ten days forward and ten days back. As a commenter added, the organization also has ten minutes to save the world. I'd even go as far and say that the movie begins and ends with a 10-minute countdown. TE N ET. Nolan, you red and blue genius 👏👏
Love or hate this movie, I think the fact that something with this level Nolan was released at all is amazing. Its clearly filmmaker allowed to just do what he loves, and I think that should be respected.
Agreed that we should respect Nolan. It's a poorly done film though apart from the acting, visuals and the concept. No characters to care about, absolutely incomprehensible dialogue and soooo much dull exposition. And I am saying this as a big Nolan fan!
@@sdprz7893 it did for me. I could care less about charachter development in this movie. If I wanted to see that I'd go a watch a drama movie that isn't from nolan.
By the end battle I'd given up and just let it wash over me. I'll definitely be watching it again. Would benefit from being able to pause, rewind and watch with freakin' subtitles.
There was nothing to feel though - that was the biggest problem. The characters (maybe apart from Neil) were completely flat, I didn't care about the towering woman married to the mobster and 'the protagonist' was a hollow void.
Thing about that is, they were able to pick up the objects inverted as if the inverted version of themselves dropped them. If they dropped them, they ould bounce around and land on there side. Not nice and neatly aligned standing up. Scientist also mentioned "you'd have to have dropped it in the future" before the protagonist is able to pick it up. That indicates that your past self can influence your future self with intention. Meaning intention can change the course of events and break the loop.
Chokwe Considering it was a common criticism among thousands of people online, yes it was a problem lol. Background noise was often too loud, voices were muffled by gas masks in some scenes, etc
I saw it in a new XD theater which is basically as good as sound gets, and understood maybe 2/3 of the dialog. I get that Nolan thinks this is some sort of brave creative choice, but they need to remaster the sound and send it back out to theaters. Imagine the screenings - must have been like the emporer's new clothes where no one had the balls to look at Nolan and say I can't understand what anyone is saying!
"Michael Caine's character, who is also called Michael..." That wasn't a coincidence. His character had the same name solely so that after his meeting, the Protagonist can say to him: "Good-bye, Sir Michael." I believe that line is intended as Christopher Nolan's farewell to his longtime collaborator (eight films since and including "Batman Begins") Sir Michael Caine, and this will be his final film.
You got it wrong about the boat scene with Kat and the russian guy He gave her the option to leave but she could never see her son again, which caused her to throw a fit and leave on a boat with their son At that point in their relationship it was already toxic, they didn't drift away because she thought her husband had an affair
This film put Inception to shame when it comes to the mindfuckery, well done Nolan you've managed to make me wonder if you increased the dosage of lsd you probably take when writing scripts.
Anonymous D he finally got the balls to try dmt 🤣 I’d say both this and inception are more dmt inspired anyway definitely inception atleast. Worth a try if you never have
@@renownstorm1753 I read some spoiler before watching. Didn't understand. Then I watched it on the cinemas. I came out with more question than answers😂. Great movie tho
Loved nearly everything about this film. I just thought The Protagonist needed slightly more character background, even just more of a vague motivation. It felt odd he would meet Kat and suddenly want to protect her so much. I honestly cared more about Neil than him.
I somewhat agree and originally thought that too. But I think that was intentional and accurate to how Tenet as an organization worked. The less you knew about specifics, especially with individuals, the better.
Unfortunately this is common with sci-fi. In sci-fi, the premise is the main focus of the story, not the characters. It's just the way it is and putting more focus on the characters would just detract from the central focus, the premise.
For the past decades, time travel has been utilized exponentially, to the point of being cheesy and bland, Nolan manged to express a new intriguing perspective to time travel, what a legend. Showing the mechanics of momentum rewinding in time and the explanations discussed in the movie... Fucking masterpiece 🔥 the last time a movie provided a beautifully complex take on time travel was Primer in 2004
@@Gaia_Seraphina oh beautiful show, fantastic story. That's the advantage of a TV show, it has much more opportunity to tell a story, unlike a movie that's only 2-3 hours to give a story. So the last MOVIE to do this for me was Primer in 2004, but yeah, Dark is a masterpiece
"Physicists try to make things simple. The more complicated anything is, the more an idiot will admire it. If you make something so clusterfucked he can't understand it...he's going to think you're a god."
So, what you're saying is that, Cedric Diggory knew that he was going to die but ventured into the maze anyway so that his sacrifice would ultimately lead to the downfall of he who should not be named? Sweet!
Honestly was already mind fucking but easy peasy to understand compared to Tenet. I feel like Tenet was a bit too much complex and everything goes so fast
Honestly, the audio in this movie was TERRIBLE. I couldnt hear so much of the dialogue because it was so muffled, and the loud explosions and sounf effects were just impeding any enjoyment. How did a perfectionist like Nolan allow this to hit the cinemas in its current state?
In a movie that practically REQUIRES you to hear every single dialogue, I was pretty upset to have missed a considerable amount of script. I feel like I've understood like 40% of the movie but I can only imagine how many important plot points and easter eggs I might've missed cause I couldn't friggin' hear them!
Nolas was always like that I think. Remember Bane in TDKR? I also think there are parts of Inception where the audio is really annoying but I can't exactly point it out because it's been so long since I watched it.
Question: If you can’t change the past, why not let the red team see the blue team. I know they don’t so they don’t see what happens to them and thus attempt to change their fate. But if you can’t change the past, doesn’t that mean you can’t change the future? Which means why even worry about something that can’t happen? Or can you not change the past BUT you can change the future? I dunno, I’m confused about what I’m even trying to ask. 10/10 movie tho, or 01/01?
If I get your question right, the answer should be : Neil explained it towards the end of the movie. He said “what’s happened, happened.... That’s doesn’t give you an excuse to do nothing. “ so he meant even if nothing can be changed, you can’t just do nothing. They need to do whatever is needed in order to make the events happen.
@Benjamin McCann i kinda agree, i always love nolan films, but somehow the complex of it for me has never come to the plot or the story, it was the edit. Sequences and scenes, pacing are just convoluted and messed up my eyes, its hard to follow. Well, guess i have to rewatch it
@Benjamin McCann This movie 100% works logically. The reason I was able to understand the movie on first watch is because I have hours of research in the Boostrap Paradox, and once the time inversion concept came it was very easy to grasp. It definitely needs a second watching for people who aren't into time travel.
The fact that Nolan created a movie that is even more mind bending than inception is truly remarkable. I have my issues with the film and it could have been a lot better but the concept of this movie is outstanding.
Did anyone else find it really difficult to understand what they were saying?? I feel like a movie as complicated as this needs to have clear dialogue.
Who ever was the sound director...he loves his explosions and deep bass. Like holy cow. I watched it in the Dolby Theater at AMC and even during the credits, I could hear the bass from the end credits all the way in the bathroom.
@@DYGMacFresh I liked the score and I felt the voices were loud enough, in my theater. The dialogue was just unclear. Few of the actors enunciated enough to be clear, or they spoke to fast. All of the talking with the oxygen masks on went right out the window, for me.
sorry I was distracted every time Kat was on the screen by how tall she was, she looked like a tree towering over everyone else, I just checked her height and its 6'3" so with heels she was maybe 6'6" YIKES MAN!!!!
same dude she was always towering over the protagonist who made him look so short and he always was hunched over a bit was definitely weird seeing that
@@subscribetobanbasstabs2599 To be honest it was so distracting and it really took away and diminished the status and power and authority of the protagonists
The reason he went with red and blue is very apt ! It represents entropy through the concept of heat , red represents hotter objects (that increases entropy) and blue for the colder object ( that does not increase entropy as much as the hot objects )! The constant switch from red to blue might indicate the flow of heat from the hotter to the colder object thereby increasing the entropy of the environment ! Vice versa for decrease of entropy in the environment ! I personally think there is another layer apart from reds and blues , it’s the superset of all objects or in thermodynamics terms : the entropy of the universe (which must always increases)! It’s kind of the reference . Nolan might’ve thrown in another colour code to foreshadow the superset layer ! The attempt is to gain knowledge from both perspectives which is trying to observe the same cause-effect from a higher dimension (looking down at events of red and blue ). The characters slowly fit together the jigsaw of the superset layer through the act of superposition (first dive through the red, keeping the actions at blue constant and then vice versa) ! Studying them one at a time to piece both perspectives together !
Some of the specifics in the movie break my brain, but overall it's followable. It's the inverted people that I can't wrap my head around. To me it doesn't make sense that they are moving forwards from their perspective. I don't know, I need a few more days to think on it I think.
@@Senseigainz So is it like they are moving backwards from the perspective of the non inverted people but to the inverted people they see things moving forward eventhough they are actually moving backwards?
Someone Pretty much. The forward people see the world and time as normal. Inverted people; walk normally but the world is going backwards, including time. From the forward people perspective the inverted people are going backwards. If you look at the movie posters you can see the picture is mirror image.
If you watch it again. Pay attention to the scene with the scientist explaining the visual mechanics. With her dropping/catching the bullet. It’s about cause and effect with perspective.
you also need to remember that we as the viewer / the camera itself isn't always moving forwards in time, for example when sator enters the machine after (well technically before xD) "killing" kat the camera enters it with him and follows his point of view, which is then inverted. once you keep track on when we are seeing things in reverse or not it becomes much clearer
Any chance of doing a breakdown of Nolan best film ever and my fav film of all time .... Memento... I know it’s an oldy... but there may be a bunch of these youngsters who don’t know about it and how good it is.
Heavy Spoilers ok coolio...😂😂😂... looking forward to that and not wanting to make demands on ya because your vids are always top top quality so seriously appreciate the effort. Just would be good to see Memento given the Definition treatment.
CrowRedEye Yh yh it’s sooo good and clever... think it would be a perfect Heavy Spoiler target. Also would introduce some of the youngsters who think this geezer started with Batman!!!
Ryan O D but that still doesnt make sense. Neil and Blue team go to the fight an hour before Red team does then invert to creat a pincer. That means Neil is dead. He cant come back an invert himself to make sure he doesnt die. Also, Neil is from the future, a time after the event has taken place. I think Neil has been told he gets killed in future so when he comes back he makes sure he doesnt get killed and makes sure the door is open. Which means they changed the future. Which goes against the films “whats happens has happened”
@@Senseigainz Its two different Neil's. The future Neil is dead but the past Neil is coming up to that point after the movie is my guess. It's a constant loop. The neil at the end of the movie would help a future protanganist in the bunker.
I actually had troubles understanding a completely different part of the movie: the intro. The protagonist and some other Americans helped the Ukraine task force fight terrorists in the opera house. The Ukraines woke them up for this. Why? Then, the protagonist apparently has his own secret mission with the twilight code if I remember correctly. What is this mission? And how does the Russian villain know and say the code later in the movie? And then it just skips to the protagonist being interrogated on the railroads. And he seems to be in some kind of coma? I first thought that the whole opera scene was just some kind of imaginary mind test, but then why would Neal appear and help him out? I'm soo confused haha
My understanding was the Americans were a CIA hit team sent in to get their man whose cover was blown and to recover the package, which would later turn out to be part of the algorithm. The Russians must've been local contacts that intelligence agencies hire (which I gather not from intelligence experience but other movies about spies) who then betray them because they're working for Sator and want the piece of the algorithm, which then ends up in the hands of Ukrainian security forces. That leads to the highway heist scene. That was my take after the second viewing.
@@ichputzhiernur6851 The whole intro was essentially a test to see if the protagonist was fit for a role in Tenet. He passed this test because he took the pill: as standard protocol in the CIA instead of enduring torture in attempt to expose information, if there's an option to just poison yourself to die quicker, take it-- and that's what he did, but it turns out that it wasn't actually lethal as it was all just to test his abilities and the extents he would go for the mission. Hope that helps a bit too! I guess Neil showed up to help the protagonist knowing that he would eventually recruit Neil? Haven't thought about it that much yet.
@@ichputzhiernur6851 Hahahaha Totally understand. I liked the movie the first viewing but understood it a lot more after the second. The inversion thing is definitely more thought out than I first thought, and even though there’s some major exposition dumps, some of the most vital information is in the smaller scenes. Like I didn’t get the whole dead drop thing at the end until the second viewing.
I've been keenly following your reveiews and analyses of Tenet and I've gotta tell you, Deff... You've really got quite the knack for explaining all the timey-wimey stuff. Great work, as usual!
this reminds me 2009, i was in college. me and my friend discussed about a theory for movie where in the lead character gets dreams about future events but the dreams are like video played backwards. well that was just a concept, chris nolan is a great storyteller.
I think I need to watch it a second time because I went out the theater too confused like 99% of people lol More seriously the pratictal effects were out of this world (the whole him against him fight scene was epic and so strange at the same time, the crash plane just wow) But I do think the movie was too complicated and going very fast on important parts. The scene in the cage at the end when the russian guy is about to destroy the plutonium was going so fast you couldn't understand who was who, at the same time you had to digest the girl going back in time to kill her husband and the war with the two teams going on Same with the car pursuit and the moment Sato talks to the phone to the protagonist in the reverted room while taking his wife as a hostage IMO it was just too much and made the movie less enjoyable because I was stressed to miss something and at the same time trying to understand what was going on the scene before ! The score was also amazing
It's complicated sure.. but not THAT complicated.. I ensure you anybody who puts the effort did understand the movie.. the hard parts to understand are the inconsistend and bullshitty phisics they wanted to throw in..
@@thebatman4279 yeaaaa.. for some reasons objects shot with inverted bullets just start as destroyed and fix themselves.. while people shot by inverted bullets don't.... they just... die
秘Ashitaka I agree. I’ve loved all Nolan’s other films, even Dunkirk. This one had redeeming qualities, but overall it lacked heart and I found the premise a bit silly :/
Right!!! I was like where are the bad guys? Maybe it would’ve been too confusing and convoluted it’s it was a bunch of people running fowards and backwards in time fighting so that’s why we didn’t see many enemy soldiers just imagine the chaos and confusion for the audience, although if taken the time out to plan carefully it would’ve made a bad ass shootout
I don’t think the ending was nessesarily spoiled by michael caines character as we as the audience wouldn’t have known the way time worked and maybe would’ve thought it could’ve been changed. also as the protagonist and Neil were inverting themselves to the airport, Neil tells the protagonist that sator believed that time could be changed and to the audience it is still somewhat of a mystery how time works as Neil tells the protagonist how it works but in a vague way involving the grandfather paradox.
Im not gonna lie, this movie is top 3 Christopher Nolan movies, this idea is so original and mind blowning...it might be confusing, but never the less mind blowing
What confused me the most was that they seemed to make a big deal about there not being turnstiles everywhere, yet suddenly everyone seems to be able to invert and revert whenever/wherever (inverting again after oslo, reverting to normal before vietnam/battle). Am i missing something?
Basem Tawfek watched it in imax yesterday. Some parts were really hard to understand. Especially at the beginning with gas masks on. Reminded me of how banes voice was in TDKR before the sorted it out
@Chokwe yeah, there was. It's a widely established fact amongst many fans, and we all watched it from multiple different theaters around the world. It's also been an issue in Nolan's films before, if you remember them needing to redo Bane's dialogue in Batman, because no one could understand him through the mask. It's not always shitting on a movie to acknowledge an issue that keeps you from fully enjoying it, chill.
I'll try to explain the best way possible. In the event of the movies, everything is pre destined and will happen exactly the way it does. So in kats case, she goes back when shot, gets on the boat and then shoots the husband. When she jumps of the boat, we can see her past self (who has not been shot as of yet) ( later the past self tells the protagonist that she saw a woman jumping off at the restraunt). So there are two kats at that time. The future kat then waits till the past kat is shot after the car chase and is inverted and is sent back. Now there is only one kat. So she replaces her former self.
@@kabirkumar2782 Yooooo can you elaborate on this^^^^ I am still having a hard time with Kat's ending. There are 2 kats after she kills sator on the boat. How in the hell from that moment on can only 1 kat be with her son??? Which Kat is that at then end with max????
@@SamWooz The other kat will eventually get shot in the chamber by sator. She will then be inverted by the protagonist and niel. Therefore after the car chase scene there will only be one kat (the one that killed sator). She then replaces the kat that gets shot and is the one we see in the end.
My favorite analogy regarding time: imagine walking through a massive cornfield. Pushing down stalks right in front of you to move forward. Winding and turning to create a giant path. Viewing time and space from an external perspective: imagine looking down from the sky at that cornfield and seeing your starting point, end point, and everything in between.
Here's a point of contention: Sator had a wristband checking his pulse. With this stopping, a wireless alert went off, presumably so he could invert, alert himself of his death, and avoid it, -in addition to it being the trigger for the algorithm to be fired. When Sator gets killed, at that point there are AT LEAST two Sators wearing an identical wristband, which obviously should have been a warning to the one who's still alive.
All the characters have created timeloops when their future selves inverted, traveled to the past and then reverted. The future Sator is dead, and the past Sator is alive and unaware until he then dies to close the loop.
Head is still spinning. But really well done for breaking it down. Let's be honest, Tenet begs for multiple viewings whether you understand it or not. Nolan doing what he does best.
the red and blue is such a nice touch. from the viewers stagnant point of view red-shift occurs when objects move further from you.. in this case the forward arrow of time getting further into the future, away from you. blue shift is when objects approach you, so the past coming forward to meet you in the present is colored blue.
Something I don't understand: how come you can travel backwards while thinking, speaking or acting forward? Shouldn't you be backwards all the way? Can you fight someone who's going forward while you're going backwards and still be able to properly defend yourself? I didn't get that logic from the movie. It seems to me they cherry picked the effects of inverting entropy. At the explanation in 7:41,when Kat travels back a second time, shouldn't she get shot once again by her husband but this time in "forward motion"? Since her past self was shot by her husband with an inverted bullet before going back in time the first time around? This really is circular time travel. If it was actual inversion, there would be no duplicates from any characters.
Relativity. You *are* backwards all the way to the outside world but a new forward *all the way* to your self. Similar to how a car and its passengers are all in motion from a pedestrians perspective, but from the passengers perspective they feel relatively stationary sitting in the car while its the pedestrians who are whizzing by outside. The bullet, being inverted, did inverted damage to Kats body. She would have to be inverted as well in order to deinvert the damage and move in the direction of healing. Obviously this isn't actual realized technology so its useless trying to explain or understand where to draw the line at what -- like why does the damage to her body despite being caused by an inverted bullet, not travel in the same temporal direction as the rest of her body seeing as how the sequence of events was objective from her position. There is a significant amount that can be analyzed and understood and there really is a cohesive logic to it but we also have to remember that its a movie and there are limits (unless we want a 10 hour movie) to what can be explained. We just have to accept at some points that in the universe of this movie, this is just how the tech works.
You still think, speak and act forward while traveling backwards because it is an inversion of YOUR perspective. It is like looking in a mirror and not realizing which side you are on. There are duplicates because both versions of yourself have to enter the turnstile simultaneously. You [while forward] enter the turnstile and then pop back out the other side, now inverted, to experience time going backwards [or being rewinded] in an instant. Well what happened the moment after [which is now before] you entered the turnstile when you were forward? You were in the process of entering the turnstile. That's why there are "duplicates". You are doing precisely what every character in the film tells you not to do: "thinking in linear terms". These things have to happen simultaneously in order to occupy the same frames of time.
@@whiskeycan529 some stuff are still super inconsistent.. if you shoot at a window with an inverted bullet, from the perspective of somebody going forward in time, the window just starts broken and it gets fixed when the bullet oasses trough it.. so why does the same not happen when shooting a person?she should start with a hole in her belly that gets closed up by the inverted bullet just as the window
I got cross-eyed on the turnstiles initially, I thought you would collide inside with your inverted self. As I understand now though it's kinda like a Möebius Strip, as the turnstile rotates so does your arrow of time gradually invert so front side becomes the backside. To an outside observer, there WOULD be two objects colliding (the "annihilation" they mention briefly) but here only the objects being inverted actually observe what goes on inside, and from inside there is no kaleidoscopic collision since they don't see their inverted self. JDW does see and fight himself as he comes out of the turnstile in one of the scenes, but that's fine since he does not enter the turnstile himself when the other did. Else he woulda seen two JDW in the opposite room window.
Standard Tenet initiation procedure? The more complex answer is probably that his future self arranged for it to happen, because it already happened...
it's a paradox. The protagonist got the idea of the initiation pill from the leader of tenet which was himself in the future after it happened to himself, so then in the future he used that idea for tenet, which would in turn lead for him in the past to learn the idea again, then bring it to the future again, and so on. It's like if someone wrote a book, you went back in time to when before they wrote it, that person then copies the book they wrote to then make that book in their own time, and then you have a paradox of how was the book original written?
I realize this comment is old but I figured switching out the pill with a fake was likely done by a reverted person in order to "start" all the the events since the protagonist was kind of the key to everything before he even knew about it (and wasn't allowed to know about it)
@@mortenchristiansen9395 That makes sense. It was confusing whether or not those dudes at the train tracks were in on the whole operation. If the pill was switched then it makes total sense.
Singa Muzic The timer was counting down to the moment when the explosion occurred. The explosion was not supposed to destroy the algorithm but rather to seal the algorithm in the ground beneath the rubble left by the explosion. The algorithm was supposed to remain in the ground for many years until Sator’s contacts uncovered it and used it to end the world at the precise moment when Sator’s life ended. However, as the protagonist and Ives removed the algorithm prior to the explosion, Sator’s contacts from the future never got their hands on the algorithm and so were not able to end the world.
@@rafayyousaf4070 but isn't there kind of am error in the movie. The first time kat talks about that boat trip and yet still sator lived passed that time. Then later he gets killed in that time when they are on the boat. That made me confused because she clearly didn't state about him being dead, she did talk about the woman, which was her future version. I couldn't remember if she said sator vanished from the boat. Hahah next time I need to watch this sober, I kinda lost it at some point
At the point when Kat witnesses future Kat jumping off the yacht (thinking she was another woman), she had already hated Sator. She clearly states she was pretending she loved Sator when the moment originally happened.
Whatever Nolan believes he achieves with time "inversion", this comes down to traveling back in time and changing the past! With it come the usual problems: Either you must give up causality or you must work with a universe that allows infinite variations of itself. Both possibilities are not very attractive to most theoretical physicists.
From what I've come to understand is that this movie works under the notion that free will is an illusion, as even if the characters know of the events to come the events aren't changed in any circumstance. Therefore invalidating free will.
@@modernmaster55 even that makes no sense, just do a mind game. Try to "throw" an inversed object. Due to it being inversed it should already be on the ground from your perspective where you would have thrown it, and then go back into your hand. Due to the fate of the object: You could only have "thrown" it when you can see it laying on the ground. But when an object is on the ground, you aren't able to throw it because the object is not in your hand. This is basically the same as the grandfather paradox. @Ralf is right, the usual problems with time travel can never make sense. Nolan did a great job by displaying it making as much sense as possible, where everything is basically bound to happen even if characters try to avoid it and then causing the event they tried to avoid.
Loved this movie!! The story and the concept of inversion was very interesting. By the way, did anyone see the A.C.E logo in the background of the city scene?? Reminded me of someone..
Originality is king. I loved it. There is nothing more stammering to a person's soul than coming out of an epic mind-bending movie where you are completely befuddled but enjoyed the experience.
Neill possibly understands that he dies due to the protagonist's reaction, but still chooses to invert himself and open the gate in order to eliminate any possibility of the plan not working. As one of the prerequisites for recruitment that we see in the opening scenes is putting others before yourself.
1. What's that turnstile room thing doing at an art archive place? 2. Why was it so important to save that Kat's life? 3. Why did they have to crash a Jumbo Jet? And what was all that gold about? (and is it significant that one of the attackers stole a gold bar while in the plane?) None of us could understand a single word of dialogue, even though it was in a new V-Max theatre with awesome sound system.
1. I think sator just wanted an extra one if things came to worst case scenario and he couldnt use his main one. Earlier, Kat says its not just an art vault and he can keep whatever he wants there. 2. Kat would've been unable to go back to the past and talk to the future/past Sator. Her task was to prevent him from killing himself (she killed him anyway but that wasnt in the plan) 3. The jumbo jet was to set off a large commotion/distraction so that the protaganist and neil could access the fake painting that Kat sold to Sator. By destroying that, (which wasnt actually destroyed), Kat would in some ways be set free as she wouldnt have to deal with the legal issues of selling a fake painting. In doing this, they gained Kat's trust to get closer to sator.
And the gold being dropped off the plane was incidental, and they also mention that throwing it onto the runway would be a great distraction, because everyone loves gold.
Your videos are amazing and it definitely brought some new insight into the movie that I previously would have ignored but I’m a bit confused on why Kat didn’t need an oxygen mask while she was reliving her day on his yacht. I know some scenes, where they were traveling reverse, that they had a room that was pressurized so that their inversed selves can breathe but why didn’t inversed Kat at the yacht need an oxygen mask?
5:40 You mentioned that the reason why the red and blue trams had to remain in their bunkers was to prevent them from seeing what could happen. This was done to prevent them from trying to change things. But if everything is predetermined, doesn't that mean that even if they tried to change the events they wouldn't be able to anyway. Therefore isn't separating the teams an unnecessary precaution. I'm just still trying to get my head around this concept. Your videos have been a great help so far BTW 😊.
In Asimov's The Last Question, the way enthropy gets reversed is how the universe starts... I love Tenet but it's more fantasy than science fiction, just like Interstellar....
i watched it on thursday, the first day it was shown here in Taiwan! *mindblowning masterpiece* btw, thanks for clearing up how time moves for KAT; i now understand!!!
I just wanted to say that you theoretically shouldn't be able to see anything once inverted because light doesn't fall into your eye. The only time light falls into your I would be if it bounced off of your eye so you would only see your pupil, which is dark so you can't see. Same with sound I think Edit: guys im not saying the movie is shit and unrealistic because of that I just wanted to point that out as a fun fact.
sure, but that's always with these kinds of movies, on a fundamental physical level they would obviously not work for so many reasons. That's why these films set up some rules like "What if it was possible that you could reverse someones entropy (with no other consequences to the thing experiencing this inversion)" or other films that then ask other questions like "what if you could become invisible but still were able to see yourself" "what if superheroes existed that could do this and that". It only becomes an issue when films set up rules for themselves and then break these rules, which makes the whole universe, that was built on the premise that things worked in a certain way, unbelievable
You are 100% right my friend. I felt a little insulted when I see an O2 mask solves everything, and the hypothermia bullshit only when an explosion happens. Same applies to gravity, air pressure, and all.
@@NinjarioPicmin I know. I talked to my sister about it and the end of the conservation was that it just wouldn't be a good film if you cant hear and see shit so it's there for experience reasons
@@jadled I think that gravity would actually be the same if you were inverted because of how it works. However time plays an important role (actually is the cause of gravity) so I don't really know how I feel about that (well there is just theories for gravity and one of them involves the fact that spacetime is curved and time slows down the more curved it is and all things in the universe want to reach the lowest possible state, same with time so it looks like we are attracted to the object or something
The whole concept of this movie is pretty daft but.. so is bullet time from the matrix or an old man fighting a fire demon with a stick in lord of the rings! We know deep down its nonsense but cool none the less..
This is basically Nolan’s time travel concept. If you go back in time you’re also going backwards in time. That’s it. That’s his whole theory. You keep going backwards when you go back in time until the plot needs you to go forwards even though you’re going back in time backwards. Get it?
Yes. Good point. But they Cherry pick what they want to happen while going backwards in time. The more I think about the film, the less I like it. My core issue is the inconsistency of of how they used the Inversion. For example: If the woman is shot, how is invering going to heal her. Shouldn't she and the others be getting younger too.
8:40 "the future version remains in the shadows" I can't understand this explanation. When the past version completes the loop does the future version just vanish into thin air so that the past version gets to move forward in time?
At the end Neil says , the protagonist will recruit him and they have fun. However this would mean the protagonist had to meet a younger Neil. Therefore the protagonist will end up going through inversion and hiding for years until he meets a younger Neil. So Neil will only have meet the protagonist initially inverted. Also Where was past Sator, as we saw future Sator on the boat, while the end is going on?
The past Sator is acting the moves of which lead the future Sator back to the Boat. So as past Kate has to still act out the actions that led to her going back in time to killed future Sator. Altho this makes it more confusing, as then how does Kate live out at the end with her kid, if the timeline was still reinacting itself to make future Saton/Kate come in time.
once you go back you live your life in a linear manner so there will always be 2 versions of her in the "past" up until she gets into the inversion machine to go backwards. She should have to live in the shadows for years along with anyone else who has gone backwards. That last scene is a scene from the future - after "past Kat" goes back in the inversion machine. At this point her husband is dead (he dies in the past when she kills him) so she can now go and get her kid. That is my understanding as of now.
Thanks for checking out the video, we've got a full breakdown of the film available here th-cam.com/video/VB-IBR4lVNQ/w-d-xo.html
How is everyone seeing this movie??? I can’t get movie theater times in NY until sept 3... is there a link or something to DL it??
Best movie ever made
@@masterrserch3971 Not all of us live in the US. It has been released elsewhere.
Fayze well I know THAT lol, I just didn’t know it had different release dates... what I truly was thinking was that it is somehow available online or for DL on like the Pirate Bay or something like that, and I could get in on that action... OR, just VOD and I could pay for it and watch it in the comfort of my living room. But again, the promos I saw said ONLY IN THEATERS, so I wasn’t sure if something changed. I’m sure this film is one you appreciate WAY more by experiencing it in the theater but since I’m just busting to see it, I would watch it on my tv if I could do so right now
how did you see this movie ????
Despite all that happened, the dude that took the cheese grinder to the face is the part that really stuck in my head.
I remembered going "Oof! That hurts." during that scene.
so sad the movie is not r rated. they could‘ve shown way more.
@@remphey nah man, less is more in that scene. You don't see it graphicly which means your brain imagines what it would feel like. More savage. Think earcutting scene from Res Dogs.
Paul Hood changed my mind
@@paulhood365 I got that same feeling back watching The Dark Knight, when the Joker is holding the knife in Gamble's mouth, the first time he tells how he got the scars. The camera cuts away when he kills him but you feel it just the same
Watched this tomorrow and will see it again yesterday
Nice
Be careful, you might see you tomorrow watching the movie yesterday...
Russell C perfect
dude i find it hilarious i bought my ticket on wednesday but i saw it monday on accident. lmao too perfect. ignorance in ammunition
Hell yeah dude I already watched it like three times next week
Now tenet is released , nolan can start filming the movie
Thats right! Lol
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@@soberunboxing4837 After Nolan starts filming, he'll have to wait for Warner Brothers to give him the "blue" light. (As opposed to the usual "green" light.)
He can start sucking the film reel back into its roll and repackaging it
time inversion showed him that its not gonna do well during a pandemic
Now he can finally make the title
Another fun easter egg: the duration of the story is ten days forward and ten days back. As a commenter added, the organization also has ten minutes to save the world. I'd even go as far and say that the movie begins and ends with a 10-minute countdown. TE N ET.
Nolan, you red and blue genius 👏👏
We figured it out! 🤣😂🤣
It’s not it’s because they have 10 minutes to save the world.
Omg
@@deanbrown7470 well that too. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
tenet backwards is also tenet forwards, even the word is the same both ways and has ten it it twice whichever way you read it lol
Fun little colour coding easter egg: The movie starts with a RED WB logo, but the WB logo is BLUE at the end of the credits :)
Holy cow you are right...good eye Brother
Cool
Sorry what is WB?
@@Jordan-ug7yk Warner Brother logo
Any meaning behind that?
This movie needed subtitles cause I missed wtf they were saying sometimes
Completely agree, the conversations sounded so muffled in the cinema
agree
I had no idea what they were saying in the beginning with the gas masks on.
Solitary thank you! Honestly couldn’t hear 80% of the dialogue
Yes yes yes!!!
What with the loud soundtrack, talking through gas masks, over the phone, and with foreign accents....no hope!
Legend has it that the protagonist is still waiting for that hot sauce
And his diet coke.
And his to-go box..snotty ass waiter.
ronnie caple hahaha
@@onepman This guy saves the damn universe and cant get him something to go. Must have been a french restaurant.
@@stuna91 right?! Lol
Love or hate this movie, I think the fact that something with this level Nolan was released at all is amazing. Its clearly filmmaker allowed to just do what he loves, and I think that should be respected.
how could anybody hate this movie? This is probably the movie of the year..
Agreed that we should respect Nolan. It's a poorly done film though apart from the acting, visuals and the concept. No characters to care about, absolutely incomprehensible dialogue and soooo much dull exposition. And I am saying this as a big Nolan fan!
PRYDAX it’s not like there’s much competition though is there
Nicolas Waldvogel Agreed, the visuals and cool concept didn’t make up for the lack of characters and actual story for me
@@sdprz7893 it did for me. I could care less about charachter development in this movie. If I wanted to see that I'd go a watch a drama movie that isn't from nolan.
The first scientist really wasn't joking when she said "don't try to understand Tenet, *feel* it"
By the end battle I'd given up and just let it wash over me. I'll definitely be watching it again. Would benefit from being able to pause, rewind and watch with freakin' subtitles.
There was nothing to feel though - that was the biggest problem. The characters (maybe apart from Neil) were completely flat, I didn't care about the towering woman married to the mobster and 'the protagonist' was a hollow void.
I think that line was a part of Nolan's plan. lol
@@kevtb874 movies now available in hd, now go rewatch it
Thing about that is, they were able to pick up the objects inverted as if the inverted version of themselves dropped them. If they dropped them, they ould bounce around and land on there side. Not nice and neatly aligned standing up.
Scientist also mentioned "you'd have to have dropped it in the future" before the protagonist is able to pick it up. That indicates that your past self can influence your future self with intention. Meaning intention can change the course of events and break the loop.
This movie genuinely really needed subtitles. I couldn’t hear the dialogue at least 50% of the time
I thought I was the only one who thought the dialogue was unusually quiet
Same here lol
Chokwe Considering it was a common criticism among thousands of people online, yes it was a problem lol. Background noise was often too loud, voices were muffled by gas masks in some scenes, etc
Same audio issue
I saw it in a new XD theater which is basically as good as sound gets, and understood maybe 2/3 of the dialog. I get that Nolan thinks this is some sort of brave creative choice, but they need to remaster the sound and send it back out to theaters. Imagine the screenings - must have been like the emporer's new clothes where no one had the balls to look at Nolan and say I can't understand what anyone is saying!
"Michael Caine's character, who is also called Michael..."
That wasn't a coincidence. His character had the same name solely so that after his meeting, the Protagonist can say to him:
"Good-bye, Sir Michael."
I believe that line is intended as Christopher Nolan's farewell to his longtime collaborator (eight films since and including "Batman Begins") Sir Michael Caine, and this will be his final film.
it could be. good theory... Nolan could consider the case he could die before Nolan's next film
Interesting idea...but I think he just says “good bye”?
You might be right. Michael Caine was looking rather aged in this one.
I liked his quip about The Protagonist's suit from Brooks Brothers. 😏
@@ianhaydock5988 I distinctly remember him saying "Goodbye, Sir Michael." There's a thread on reddit about this subject.
@@monkeyingdom Maybe Nolan already knows...
You got it wrong about the boat scene with Kat and the russian guy
He gave her the option to leave but she could never see her son again, which caused her to throw a fit and leave on a boat with their son
At that point in their relationship it was already toxic, they didn't drift away because she thought her husband had an affair
Yeah - her selling the fake painting was his hold over her that is why she wanted it destroyed in airplane fire.
SYA史斯宇 it was that Kat considered Sator’s offer for a moment to get out of that toxic marriage - and he recognized it.
She did see someone jump off the yatch the first time so that counts for something (and they connect it in the future scene)
@@fitchgirl02 Right but she was jealous of the woman's freedom, not a potential affair
Also not the same clothing. Good explanation on video though. 👍
This film put Inception to shame when it comes to the mindfuckery, well done Nolan you've managed to make me wonder if you increased the dosage of lsd you probably take when writing scripts.
Anonymous D
he finally got the balls to try dmt 🤣
I’d say both this and inception are more dmt inspired anyway definitely inception atleast. Worth a try if you never have
I watched it this morning, don't even know what i watched Im searching up videos that explain it
@@renownstorm1753 I read some spoiler before watching. Didn't understand. Then I watched it on the cinemas. I came out with more question than answers😂. Great movie tho
Man, so many retards think creativity = must mean drug use....
@@Woodsaras imagine thinking it wasn't a joke, relax fanboy
Loved nearly everything about this film. I just thought The Protagonist needed slightly more character background, even just more of a vague motivation. It felt odd he would meet Kat and suddenly want to protect her so much. I honestly cared more about Neil than him.
Me too, in fact Neil was my favorite character of the movie.
Did you catch it? Neil is her son.
I somewhat agree and originally thought that too. But I think that was intentional and accurate to how Tenet as an organization worked. The less you knew about specifics, especially with individuals, the better.
EXACTLY
Unfortunately this is common with sci-fi. In sci-fi, the premise is the main focus of the story, not the characters. It's just the way it is and putting more focus on the characters would just detract from the central focus, the premise.
For the past decades, time travel has been utilized exponentially, to the point of being cheesy and bland, Nolan manged to express a new intriguing perspective to time travel, what a legend. Showing the mechanics of momentum rewinding in time and the explanations discussed in the movie... Fucking masterpiece 🔥 the last time a movie provided a beautifully complex take on time travel was Primer in 2004
I saw a great time travel story 2 months ago: Netflix "Dark"
@@Gaia_Seraphina oh beautiful show, fantastic story. That's the advantage of a TV show, it has much more opportunity to tell a story, unlike a movie that's only 2-3 hours to give a story. So the last MOVIE to do this for me was Primer in 2004, but yeah, Dark is a masterpiece
This movie can replace the IQ test
Person, woman, man, camera, tenet.
"Physicists try to make things simple. The more complicated anything is, the more an idiot will admire it. If you make something so clusterfucked he can't understand it...he's going to think you're a god."
🙄
100% agree
@@NovemXI Oh just got to try & keep up.. aren't you? ! 🍷
Imagine watching the movie backwards, so that the backward scene is moving forward and forward scene move backwards
I don’t have to imagine; I did it!
Oh my God-
And upside down! 🤪
Yo will end at the same point both ways.
That little twist at the end when Neil tells the Protagonist that he recruited him in the future just blew my mind. And that fight sequence....
You have to watch this movie approximately five times to get it straight
And turn on subtitles
@@ColmK83 damn right!
Dang does it actually start clicking after multiple viewings? Planning to watch it again but with a mate.
Took me only 3 times for Inception
@@kal-el4781 lmao nope shit still makes no sense. How tf you can be fighontf someone while he's in reverse and you aren't
At least the movie is original
Even if 50 percent of it's audience has no idea what's going on
🤷😂😂
I only understood it at the end of the second half lol
K R No, the end of the second half. The movie isn’t split in two, it’s split into three
99percent lol
Idk about original. This movie is basically Dirk Gently Season 1.
Love people acting like they understood everything during the first watch
So, what you're saying is that, Cedric Diggory knew that he was going to die but ventured into the maze anyway so that his sacrifice would ultimately lead to the downfall of he who should not be named? Sweet!
correct, 10 points to gryffindor!
I feel like watching Dark trained me for this!!
yessss a fellow DARK fan
@@MrMrNOYFB 😎 absolutely!!
I binged Dark the other week but not even that could prepare me for this mind fuckery. Damn Nolan!
Dark and 12 Monkeys tv show
Honestly was already mind fucking but easy peasy to understand compared to Tenet. I feel like Tenet was a bit too much complex and everything goes so fast
I watched this movie but I wasn't able to understand much about that Time theory so I am watching your video to understand that. 😌
Try backwards. 😀
You have to stop thinking linear
Dont try and understand it, feel it.
Tenet and Dark be like messing my mind this year.
"Don't try to understand it, feel it."
Honestly, the audio in this movie was TERRIBLE. I couldnt hear so much of the dialogue because it was so muffled, and the loud explosions and sounf effects were just impeding any enjoyment. How did a perfectionist like Nolan allow this to hit the cinemas in its current state?
In a movie that practically REQUIRES you to hear every single dialogue, I was pretty upset to have missed a considerable amount of script. I feel like I've understood like 40% of the movie but I can only imagine how many important plot points and easter eggs I might've missed cause I couldn't friggin' hear them!
I agree the dialogue audio SUCKED
They really took the piss when they suddenly had important plot information revealed through talking via a headset on a windy boat.
The audio in my theater was great, but it was all louder than normal so maybe all theaters should be doing that for this film
Nolas was always like that I think. Remember Bane in TDKR? I also think there are parts of Inception where the audio is really annoying but I can't exactly point it out because it's been so long since I watched it.
I love it when a movie leaves me scratching my head trying to figure the spectacle I just saw. Tenet is brilliant!
Question:
If you can’t change the past, why not let the red team see the blue team. I know they don’t so they don’t see what happens to them and thus attempt to change their fate. But if you can’t change the past, doesn’t that mean you can’t change the future? Which means why even worry about something that can’t happen? Or can you not change the past BUT you can change the future? I dunno, I’m confused about what I’m even trying to ask. 10/10 movie tho, or 01/01?
If I get your question right, the answer should be :
Neil explained it towards the end of the movie. He said “what’s happened, happened.... That’s doesn’t give you an excuse to do nothing. “ so he meant even if nothing can be changed, you can’t just do nothing. They need to do whatever is needed in order to make the events happen.
@Benjamin McCann i kinda agree, i always love nolan films, but somehow the complex of it for me has never come to the plot or the story, it was the edit. Sequences and scenes, pacing are just convoluted and messed up my eyes, its hard to follow. Well, guess i have to rewatch it
bruuh, just sit back and enjoy the film!!
Benjamin McCann bruh just let them do their thing.
@Benjamin McCann This movie 100% works logically. The reason I was able to understand the movie on first watch is because I have hours of research in the Boostrap Paradox, and once the time inversion concept came it was very easy to grasp. It definitely needs a second watching for people who aren't into time travel.
I watched your breakdown and then watched the movie.
I was still confused
You watched things in the wrong order
As they should be
@@heavyspoilers No, just inverted 😅
don't try to understand it, just feel it.
The fact that Nolan created a movie that is even more mind bending than inception is truly remarkable. I have my issues with the film and it could have been a lot better but the concept of this movie is outstanding.
The months in lockdown numbed my brain. Can’t understand the whole concept. 🤦♀️ watched like 10 explaining videos
Did anyone else find it really difficult to understand what they were saying?? I feel like a movie as complicated as this needs to have clear dialogue.
Who ever was the sound director...he loves his explosions and deep bass. Like holy cow. I watched it in the Dolby Theater at AMC and even during the credits, I could hear the bass from the end credits all the way in the bathroom.
@@DYGMacFresh I liked the score and I felt the voices were loud enough, in my theater. The dialogue was just unclear. Few of the actors enunciated enough to be clear, or they spoke to fast. All of the talking with the oxygen masks on went right out the window, for me.
Apparently the muffled dialogue was intentional. But I can’t understand why anyone would think that would be a good choice lol
@@Yoyomeyo I raise you Bane from The Dark Knight Rises
sorry I was distracted every time Kat was on the screen by how tall she was, she looked like a tree towering over everyone else, I just checked her height and its 6'3" so with heels she was maybe 6'6" YIKES MAN!!!!
And she is beautiful
Tall women are 😍
same dude
she was always towering over the protagonist who made him look so short and he always was hunched over a bit
was definitely weird seeing that
@@subscribetobanbasstabs2599 To be honest it was so distracting and it really took away and diminished the status and power and authority of the protagonists
Lin Y I agree, i felt the same with sator aswell
the two most "imposing" characters were the shortest
Memento: I'm the most complicated movie
Tenet: hold my beer
reeb ym dloh
Tbh memento wasnt that complicated
intersteller was more complicated then memento
felt memeneto was strait forward
it has one timeline, just told from two different points of view
😀
The reason he went with red and blue is very apt ! It represents entropy through the concept of heat , red represents hotter objects (that increases entropy) and blue for the colder object ( that does not increase entropy as much as the hot objects )! The constant switch from red to blue might indicate the flow of heat from the hotter to the colder object thereby increasing the entropy of the environment ! Vice versa for decrease of entropy in the environment ! I personally think there is another layer apart from reds and blues , it’s the superset of all objects or in thermodynamics terms : the entropy of the universe (which must always increases)! It’s kind of the reference . Nolan might’ve thrown in another colour code to foreshadow the superset layer !
The attempt is to gain knowledge from both perspectives which is trying to observe the same cause-effect from a higher dimension (looking down at events of red and blue ). The characters slowly fit together the jigsaw of the superset layer through the act of superposition (first dive through the red, keeping the actions at blue constant and then vice versa) ! Studying them one at a time to piece both perspectives together !
Like 3d glasses lol
Some of the specifics in the movie break my brain, but overall it's followable. It's the inverted people that I can't wrap my head around. To me it doesn't make sense that they are moving forwards from their perspective. I don't know, I need a few more days to think on it I think.
Its about perspective. A mirror image so to speak.
@@Senseigainz So is it like they are moving backwards from the perspective of the non inverted people but to the inverted people they see things moving forward eventhough they are actually moving backwards?
Someone Pretty much. The forward people see the world and time as normal.
Inverted people; walk normally but the world is going backwards, including time.
From the forward people perspective the inverted people are going backwards.
If you look at the movie posters you can see the picture is mirror image.
If you watch it again. Pay attention to the scene with the scientist explaining the visual mechanics. With her dropping/catching the bullet. It’s about cause and effect with perspective.
you also need to remember that we as the viewer / the camera itself isn't always moving forwards in time, for example when sator enters the machine after (well technically before xD) "killing" kat the camera enters it with him and follows his point of view, which is then inverted. once you keep track on when we are seeing things in reverse or not it becomes much clearer
this explanation hurts my brain even more
i feel like not actively trying to understand the movie is the best way to understand it (at least that’s what worked for me)
dont try to understand it, feel it
In the commercials, Eckerö Line was selling a cruise trip to Tallinn Estonia, almost at the same time when you showed a clip from Tallinn in Tenet.
Any chance of doing a breakdown of Nolan best film ever and my fav film of all time .... Memento... I know it’s an oldy... but there may be a bunch of these youngsters who don’t know about it and how good it is.
Gonna try, think Interstellar will be my next one by him
Heavy Spoilers ok coolio...😂😂😂... looking forward to that and not wanting to make demands on ya because your vids are always top top quality so seriously appreciate the effort. Just would be good to see Memento given the Definition treatment.
Memento is one of my all-time favorite films.
CrowRedEye Yh yh it’s sooo good and clever... think it would be a perfect Heavy Spoiler target. Also would introduce some of the youngsters who think this geezer started with Batman!!!
At least it was possible to understand memento, unlike tenet
This made sense with the diagram. Now explain Neils timeline and his death please!!!!!
Jim McKnight ya pls!!
Neil is inveresed after the ending of the movie, leading to his death. Protagonist can't tell him because "what happens happened".
Ryan O D but that still doesnt make sense. Neil and Blue team go to the fight an hour before Red team does then invert to creat a pincer.
That means Neil is dead. He cant come back an invert himself to make sure he doesnt die.
Also, Neil is from the future, a time after the event has taken place. I think Neil has been told he gets killed in future so when he comes back he makes sure he doesnt get killed and makes sure the door is open. Which means they changed the future.
Which goes against the films “whats happens has happened”
@@Senseigainz Its two different Neil's. The future Neil is dead but the past Neil is coming up to that point after the movie is my guess. It's a constant loop. The neil at the end of the movie would help a future protanganist in the bunker.
Ryan O D finally someone makes sense lol. Thank you.
The most important line in the whole movie to me..."Don't try to understand it, feel it" . Nolan at his finest!
agreed, once i stopped trying to over analyze everything, i understood it
taken me about four hours of watching explanation videos but i think i finally get it...
I actually had troubles understanding a completely different part of the movie: the intro.
The protagonist and some other Americans helped the Ukraine task force fight terrorists in the opera house. The Ukraines woke them up for this. Why?
Then, the protagonist apparently has his own secret mission with the twilight code if I remember correctly. What is this mission? And how does the Russian villain know and say the code later in the movie? And then it just skips to the protagonist being interrogated on the railroads. And he seems to be in some kind of coma? I first thought that the whole opera scene was just some kind of imaginary mind test, but then why would Neal appear and help him out?
I'm soo confused haha
My understanding was the Americans were a CIA hit team sent in to get their man whose cover was blown and to recover the package, which would later turn out to be part of the algorithm. The Russians must've been local contacts that intelligence agencies hire (which I gather not from intelligence experience but other movies about spies) who then betray them because they're working for Sator and want the piece of the algorithm, which then ends up in the hands of Ukrainian security forces. That leads to the highway heist scene. That was my take after the second viewing.
@@daweenmaan I'm still a bit confused, but this actually makes a lot more sense now, thank you!
@@ichputzhiernur6851 The whole intro was essentially a test to see if the protagonist was fit for a role in Tenet. He passed this test because he took the pill: as standard protocol in the CIA instead of enduring torture in attempt to expose information, if there's an option to just poison yourself to die quicker, take it-- and that's what he did, but it turns out that it wasn't actually lethal as it was all just to test his abilities and the extents he would go for the mission. Hope that helps a bit too! I guess Neil showed up to help the protagonist knowing that he would eventually recruit Neil? Haven't thought about it that much yet.
@@ichputzhiernur6851 Hahahaha Totally understand. I liked the movie the first viewing but understood it a lot more after the second. The inversion thing is definitely more thought out than I first thought, and even though there’s some major exposition dumps, some of the most vital information is in the smaller scenes. Like I didn’t get the whole dead drop thing at the end until the second viewing.
Arepo = Opera
I've been keenly following your reveiews and analyses of Tenet and I've gotta tell you, Deff...
You've really got quite the knack for explaining all the timey-wimey stuff.
Great work, as usual!
this reminds me 2009, i was in college. me and my friend discussed about a theory for movie where in the lead character gets dreams about future events but the dreams are like video played backwards. well that was just a concept, chris nolan is a great storyteller.
Tip: Press the video timer to invert the flow of time
I love how the majority says "this movie is amazing, brilliant, pure art" but they didn't understand shit lol
I think I need to watch it a second time because I went out the theater too confused like 99% of people lol
More seriously the pratictal effects were out of this world (the whole him against him fight scene was epic and so strange at the same time, the crash plane just wow)
But I do think the movie was too complicated and going very fast on important parts. The scene in the cage at the end when the russian guy is about to destroy the plutonium was going so fast you couldn't understand who was who, at the same time you had to digest the girl going back in time to kill her husband and the war with the two teams going on
Same with the car pursuit and the moment Sato talks to the phone to the protagonist in the reverted room while taking his wife as a hostage
IMO it was just too much and made the movie less enjoyable because I was stressed to miss something and at the same time trying to understand what was going on the scene before !
The score was also amazing
It's complicated sure.. but not THAT complicated.. I ensure you anybody who puts the effort did understand the movie.. the hard parts to understand are the inconsistend and bullshitty phisics they wanted to throw in..
@@raffaelepiccini3405 Yeah like the inverted bullet scene in the opera. Completely nonsensical, nobody can successfully explain how that works.
@@thebatman4279 yeaaaa.. for some reasons objects shot with inverted bullets just start as destroyed and fix themselves.. while people shot by inverted bullets don't.... they just... die
Watched the movie. Nolan fans who are used to his style will enjoy it. It’s not inception but it’s ranks high in my Nolan list.
jozif I am a massive fan of Nolan, but this film is so bad on so many levels
秘Ashitaka I agree. I’ve loved all Nolan’s other films, even Dunkirk. This one had redeeming qualities, but overall it lacked heart and I found the premise a bit silly :/
秘Ashitaka yeah I think I would genuinely consider this a bad film, I’ve enjoyed marvel movies more than this
@@Fenrir1373 you think it's bad cuz you don't understand it
SDPRZ good joke
the battle at the end, what were they shooting at? I never saw any enemy soldiers, they were just shooting at ruins wtf.
yeah i was hella confused about that
I think that’s a nod to Dunkirk- the nazis are never shown in Dunkirk until Tom Hardy is captured at the very end
Right!!! I was like where are the bad guys? Maybe it would’ve been too confusing and convoluted it’s it was a bunch of people running fowards and backwards in time fighting so that’s why we didn’t see many enemy soldiers just imagine the chaos and confusion for the audience, although if taken the time out to plan carefully it would’ve made a bad ass shootout
Yeah there was very little or no setup for certain sequences, stuff just happened
The only time you see them is dead guys in the sort of circle where the two teams met at one moment
I remember them wearing white clothes
I'm usually not too bad following stuff like this but missed half the dialogue because I couldnt hear what they said
I don’t think the ending was nessesarily spoiled by michael caines character as we as the audience wouldn’t have known the way time worked and maybe would’ve thought it could’ve been changed. also as the protagonist and Neil were inverting themselves to the airport, Neil tells the protagonist that sator believed that time could be changed and to the audience it is still somewhat of a mystery how time works as Neil tells the protagonist how it works but in a vague way involving the grandfather paradox.
Im not gonna lie, this movie is top 3 Christopher Nolan movies, this idea is so original and mind blowning...it might be confusing, but never the less mind blowing
The Movie poster gives away more than you know until you've watched the film
I don't know whether I need more braincells or special ones to understand this movie lmfao
What confused me the most was that they seemed to make a big deal about there not being turnstiles everywhere, yet suddenly everyone seems to be able to invert and revert whenever/wherever (inverting again after oslo, reverting to normal before vietnam/battle). Am i missing something?
What confused me was the dialogue. I could barely understand what they were saying.
@@ColmK83 yeah sound mixing isn't great, hopefully they re do it, if not for cinema then DVD or something
@Chokwe People who have watched the movie in VOX and IMAX didn't complain about the audio, while others did.
Basem Tawfek watched it in imax yesterday. Some parts were really hard to understand. Especially at the beginning with gas masks on. Reminded me of how banes voice was in TDKR before the sorted it out
@Chokwe yeah, there was. It's a widely established fact amongst many fans, and we all watched it from multiple different theaters around the world. It's also been an issue in Nolan's films before, if you remember them needing to redo Bane's dialogue in Batman, because no one could understand him through the mask. It's not always shitting on a movie to acknowledge an issue that keeps you from fully enjoying it, chill.
Saw the movie. Hilarious. Reminded me of the South Park Inception parody.
I only understand like 1/3 of the movie, the pacing is so fast, gonna have to watch it again
You show the Blink clip of Tennant before talking about Tenet
Love it.
i didnt understand the whole "the future version remains in the shadows"
Exactly same problem for me.
I'll try to explain the best way possible. In the event of the movies, everything is pre destined and will happen exactly the way it does. So in kats case, she goes back when shot, gets on the boat and then shoots the husband. When she jumps of the boat, we can see her past self (who has not been shot as of yet) ( later the past self tells the protagonist that she saw a woman jumping off at the restraunt). So there are two kats at that time.
The future kat then waits till the past kat is shot after the car chase and is inverted and is sent back. Now there is only one kat. So she replaces her former self.
@@kabirkumar2782 Yooooo can you elaborate on this^^^^ I am still having a hard time with Kat's ending. There are 2 kats after she kills sator on the boat. How in the hell from that moment on can only 1 kat be with her son??? Which Kat is that at then end with max????
@@SamWooz The other kat will eventually get shot in the chamber by sator. She will then be inverted by the protagonist and niel. Therefore after the car chase scene there will only be one kat (the one that killed sator). She then replaces the kat that gets shot and is the one we see in the end.
My favorite analogy regarding time: imagine walking through a massive cornfield. Pushing down stalks right in front of you to move forward. Winding and turning to create a giant path.
Viewing time and space from an external perspective: imagine looking down from the sky at that cornfield and seeing your starting point, end point, and everything in between.
Here's a point of contention:
Sator had a wristband checking his pulse. With this stopping, a wireless alert went off, presumably so he could invert, alert himself of his death, and avoid it, -in addition to it being the trigger for the algorithm to be fired.
When Sator gets killed, at that point there are AT LEAST two Sators wearing an identical wristband, which obviously should have been a warning to the one who's still alive.
All the characters have created timeloops when their future selves inverted, traveled to the past and then reverted. The future Sator is dead, and the past Sator is alive and unaware until he then dies to close the loop.
Christopher Nolan as a story teller is Absolutely Brilliant!!
I'm just gonna have to say im stupid lol This just doesn't make sense to me. Sounds cool af to look at though
Head is still spinning. But really well done for breaking it down. Let's be honest, Tenet begs for multiple viewings whether you understand it or not. Nolan doing what he does best.
If everything happens the exact way it always would happen then what advantages does going back in time have? That is what is so freaking confusing.
the red and blue is such a nice touch. from the viewers stagnant point of view red-shift occurs when objects move further from you.. in this case the forward arrow of time getting further into the future, away from you. blue shift is when objects approach you, so the past coming forward to meet you in the present is colored blue.
Something I don't understand: how come you can travel backwards while thinking, speaking or acting forward? Shouldn't you be backwards all the way?
Can you fight someone who's going forward while you're going backwards and still be able to properly defend yourself?
I didn't get that logic from the movie. It seems to me they cherry picked the effects of inverting entropy.
At the explanation in 7:41,when Kat travels back a second time, shouldn't she get shot once again by her husband but this time in "forward motion"? Since her past self was shot by her husband with an inverted bullet before going back in time the first time around?
This really is circular time travel. If it was actual inversion, there would be no duplicates from any characters.
Yes. You make dome good points.
If the woman is shot, how is invering going to heal her. Shouldn't she and the other be getting younger too.
Relativity. You *are* backwards all the way to the outside world but a new forward *all the way* to your self. Similar to how a car and its passengers are all in motion from a pedestrians perspective, but from the passengers perspective they feel relatively stationary sitting in the car while its the pedestrians who are whizzing by outside.
The bullet, being inverted, did inverted damage to Kats body. She would have to be inverted as well in order to deinvert the damage and move in the direction of healing. Obviously this isn't actual realized technology so its useless trying to explain or understand where to draw the line at what -- like why does the damage to her body despite being caused by an inverted bullet, not travel in the same temporal direction as the rest of her body seeing as how the sequence of events was objective from her position.
There is a significant amount that can be analyzed and understood and there really is a cohesive logic to it but we also have to remember that its a movie and there are limits (unless we want a 10 hour movie) to what can be explained. We just have to accept at some points that in the universe of this movie, this is just how the tech works.
You still think, speak and act forward while traveling backwards because it is an inversion of YOUR perspective. It is like looking in a mirror and not realizing which side you are on.
There are duplicates because both versions of yourself have to enter the turnstile simultaneously.
You [while forward] enter the turnstile and then pop back out the other side, now inverted, to experience time going backwards [or being rewinded] in an instant. Well what happened the moment after [which is now before] you entered the turnstile when you were forward? You were in the process of entering the turnstile. That's why there are "duplicates".
You are doing precisely what every character in the film tells you not to do: "thinking in linear terms". These things have to happen simultaneously in order to occupy the same frames of time.
@@whiskeycan529 some stuff are still super inconsistent.. if you shoot at a window with an inverted bullet, from the perspective of somebody going forward in time, the window just starts broken and it gets fixed when the bullet oasses trough it.. so why does the same not happen when shooting a person?she should start with a hole in her belly that gets closed up by the inverted bullet just as the window
I got cross-eyed on the turnstiles initially, I thought you would collide inside with your inverted self. As I understand now though it's kinda like a Möebius Strip, as the turnstile rotates so does your arrow of time gradually invert so front side becomes the backside. To an outside observer, there WOULD be two objects colliding (the "annihilation" they mention briefly) but here only the objects being inverted actually observe what goes on inside, and from inside there is no kaleidoscopic collision since they don't see their inverted self. JDW does see and fight himself as he comes out of the turnstile in one of the scenes, but that's fine since he does not enter the turnstile himself when the other did. Else he woulda seen two JDW in the opposite room window.
Am I correct in comparing the Neil/Protagonist dynamic to the River/Doctor dynamic? An entire video on Neil would be MUCH appreciated!
That’s what I thought when I saw their final scene together!
Starting a tenet video with a tennant video... Nice.
Curious. Why did the Protagonist have to initiate a “loyalty test” with the cyanide pill?
Standard Tenet initiation procedure?
The more complex answer is probably that his future self arranged for it to happen, because it already happened...
it's a paradox. The protagonist got the idea of the initiation pill from the leader of tenet which was himself in the future after it happened to himself, so then in the future he used that idea for tenet, which would in turn lead for him in the past to learn the idea again, then bring it to the future again, and so on. It's like if someone wrote a book, you went back in time to when before they wrote it, that person then copies the book they wrote to then make that book in their own time, and then you have a paradox of how was the book original written?
@@clickbait3753 bootstrap paradox
I realize this comment is old but I figured switching out the pill with a fake was likely done by a reverted person in order to "start" all the the events since the protagonist was kind of the key to everything before he even knew about it (and wasn't allowed to know about it)
@@mortenchristiansen9395 That makes sense. It was confusing whether or not those dudes at the train tracks were in on the whole operation. If the pill was switched then it makes total sense.
1 of the better explanation videos for Tenet!
One question: what was the 10min timer in the ultimate battle for, if the Algorythm was set to explode when the dude dies?
yes because they knew when he was going to kill himself i guess
Ah okay, but then it didn’t make a difference that Kat killed him too early
Singa Muzic The timer was counting down to the moment when the explosion occurred. The explosion was not supposed to destroy the algorithm but rather to seal the algorithm in the ground beneath the rubble left by the explosion. The algorithm was supposed to remain in the ground for many years until Sator’s contacts uncovered it and used it to end the world at the precise moment when Sator’s life ended. However, as the protagonist and Ives removed the algorithm prior to the explosion, Sator’s contacts from the future never got their hands on the algorithm and so were not able to end the world.
@@rafayyousaf4070 but isn't there kind of am error in the movie. The first time kat talks about that boat trip and yet still sator lived passed that time. Then later he gets killed in that time when they are on the boat. That made me confused because she clearly didn't state about him being dead, she did talk about the woman, which was her future version. I couldn't remember if she said sator vanished from the boat. Hahah next time I need to watch this sober, I kinda lost it at some point
At the point when Kat witnesses future Kat jumping off the yacht (thinking she was another woman), she had already hated Sator.
She clearly states she was pretending she loved Sator when the moment originally happened.
Whatever Nolan believes he achieves with time "inversion", this comes down to traveling back in time and changing the past!
With it come the usual problems: Either you must give up causality or you must work with a universe that allows infinite variations of itself.
Both possibilities are not very attractive to most theoretical physicists.
From what I've come to understand is that this movie works under the notion that free will is an illusion, as even if the characters know of the events to come the events aren't changed in any circumstance. Therefore invalidating free will.
@@modernmaster55 even that makes no sense, just do a mind game.
Try to "throw" an inversed object. Due to it being inversed it should already be on the ground from your perspective where you would have thrown it, and then go back into your hand.
Due to the fate of the object: You could only have "thrown" it when you can see it laying on the ground. But when an object is on the ground, you aren't able to throw it because the object is not in your hand.
This is basically the same as the grandfather paradox.
@Ralf is right, the usual problems with time travel can never make sense. Nolan did a great job by displaying it making as much sense as possible, where everything is basically bound to happen even if characters try to avoid it and then causing the event they tried to avoid.
wow this made my head unhurt! awesome video man you got a new sub (y)
Loved this movie!! The story and the concept of inversion was very interesting. By the way, did anyone see the A.C.E logo in the background of the city scene?? Reminded me of someone..
Originality is king. I loved it. There is nothing more stammering to a person's soul than coming out of an epic mind-bending movie where you are completely befuddled but enjoyed the experience.
Love the chan def do doctor who breakdown as well as new mutants review!!
New mutants coming tomorrow for sure
@@heavyspoilers ight bet
Wow .... watching this makes me think how the meetings were while creating the script.
Can you do a video explaining Neil’s ending? I get really confused when I think about his death from his perspective.
Neill possibly understands that he dies due to the protagonist's reaction, but still chooses to invert himself and open the gate in order to eliminate any possibility of the plan not working. As one of the prerequisites for recruitment that we see in the opening scenes is putting others before yourself.
he inverted himself, openend the gate and takes the bullet.
One of the best breakdowns so far, good stuff!
I got this movie when I will see it the second time.
...or the 3rd.
Saw it today, and I my brain could not comprehend what was going on. Still enjoyed it tho.
1. What's that turnstile room thing doing at an art archive place?
2. Why was it so important to save that Kat's life?
3. Why did they have to crash a Jumbo Jet? And what was all that gold about? (and is it significant that one of the attackers stole a gold bar while in the plane?)
None of us could understand a single word of dialogue, even though it was in a new V-Max theatre with awesome sound system.
1. I think sator just wanted an extra one if things came to worst case scenario and he couldnt use his main one. Earlier, Kat says its not just an art vault and he can keep whatever he wants there.
2. Kat would've been unable to go back to the past and talk to the future/past Sator. Her task was to prevent him from killing himself (she killed him anyway but that wasnt in the plan)
3. The jumbo jet was to set off a large commotion/distraction so that the protaganist and neil could access the fake painting that Kat sold to Sator. By destroying that, (which wasnt actually destroyed), Kat would in some ways be set free as she wouldnt have to deal with the legal issues of selling a fake painting. In doing this, they gained Kat's trust to get closer to sator.
And the gold being dropped off the plane was incidental, and they also mention that throwing it onto the runway would be a great distraction, because everyone loves gold.
@@judehynes8509 Thanks for that Jude, but no use, still just words.....😢
@@ecurb10 Watching it a second time definitely helped.
I just watched the film. Great explaination
Your videos are amazing and it definitely brought some new insight into the movie that I previously would have ignored but I’m a bit confused on why Kat didn’t need an oxygen mask while she was reliving her day on his yacht. I know some scenes, where they were traveling reverse, that they had a room that was pressurized so that their inversed selves can breathe but why didn’t inversed Kat at the yacht need an oxygen mask?
5:40 You mentioned that the reason why the red and blue trams had to remain in their bunkers was to prevent them from seeing what could happen. This was done to prevent them from trying to change things. But if everything is predetermined, doesn't that mean that even if they tried to change the events they wouldn't be able to anyway. Therefore isn't separating the teams an unnecessary precaution. I'm just still trying to get my head around this concept. Your videos have been a great help so far BTW 😊.
Good point, if that is the case, then they were misunderstood too or they were in fact being as careful as possible.
In Asimov's The Last Question, the way enthropy gets reversed is how the universe starts... I love Tenet but it's more fantasy than science fiction, just like Interstellar....
And even then the way enthropy is reversed stays unknown to human beings.
i watched it on thursday, the first day it was shown here in Taiwan!
*mindblowning masterpiece*
btw, thanks for clearing up how time moves for KAT; i now understand!!!
I just wanted to say that you theoretically shouldn't be able to see anything once inverted because light doesn't fall into your eye. The only time light falls into your I would be if it bounced off of your eye so you would only see your pupil, which is dark so you can't see. Same with sound I think
Edit: guys im not saying the movie is shit and unrealistic because of that I just wanted to point that out as a fun fact.
sure, but that's always with these kinds of movies, on a fundamental physical level they would obviously not work for so many reasons. That's why these films set up some rules like "What if it was possible that you could reverse someones entropy (with no other consequences to the thing experiencing this inversion)" or other films that then ask other questions like "what if you could become invisible but still were able to see yourself" "what if superheroes existed that could do this and that".
It only becomes an issue when films set up rules for themselves and then break these rules, which makes the whole universe, that was built on the premise that things worked in a certain way, unbelievable
You are 100% right my friend. I felt a little insulted when I see an O2 mask solves everything, and the hypothermia bullshit only when an explosion happens. Same applies to gravity, air pressure, and all.
@@NinjarioPicmin I know. I talked to my sister about it and the end of the conservation was that it just wouldn't be a good film if you cant hear and see shit so it's there for experience reasons
@@jadled I think that gravity would actually be the same if you were inverted because of how it works. However time plays an important role (actually is the cause of gravity) so I don't really know how I feel about that
(well there is just theories for gravity and one of them involves the fact that spacetime is curved and time slows down the more curved it is and all things in the universe want to reach the lowest possible state, same with time so it looks like we are attracted to the object or something
The whole concept of this movie is pretty daft but.. so is bullet time from the matrix or an old man fighting a fire demon with a stick in lord of the rings! We know deep down its nonsense but cool none the less..
This is basically Nolan’s time travel concept. If you go back in time you’re also going backwards in time. That’s it. That’s his whole theory. You keep going backwards when you go back in time until the plot needs you to go forwards even though you’re going back in time backwards. Get it?
Yes. Good point. But they Cherry pick what they want to happen while going backwards in time.
The more I think about the film, the less I like it.
My core issue is the inconsistency of of how they used the Inversion.
For example:
If the woman is shot, how is invering going to heal her. Shouldn't she and the others be getting younger too.
Moses Garcia : I don’t think the problem is the physics of this movie. It was just boring. It was not exciting. That’s the biggest flaw.
8:40 "the future version remains in the shadows"
I can't understand this explanation. When the past version completes the loop does the future version just vanish into thin air so that the past version gets to move forward in time?
This video really helps and doesn't help at all at the same time. Very nice 👌
Great analysis of this movie.
Damn Paul, this one highly educational video. Well done man!!
At the end Neil says , the protagonist will recruit him and they have fun. However this would mean the protagonist had to meet a younger Neil. Therefore the protagonist will end up going through inversion and hiding for years until he meets a younger Neil. So Neil will only have meet the protagonist initially inverted. Also Where was past Sator, as we saw future Sator on the boat, while the end is going on?
The past Sator is acting the moves of which lead the future Sator back to the Boat.
So as past Kate has to still act out the actions that led to her going back in time to killed future Sator.
Altho this makes it more confusing, as then how does Kate live out at the end with her kid, if the timeline was still reinacting itself to make future Saton/Kate come in time.
once you go back you live your life in a linear manner so there will always be 2 versions of her in the "past" up until she gets into the inversion machine to go backwards. She should have to live in the shadows for years along with anyone else who has gone backwards. That last scene is a scene from the future - after "past Kat" goes back in the inversion machine. At this point her husband is dead (he dies in the past when she kills him) so she can now go and get her kid. That is my understanding as of now.