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Another reason Monsieur Nolan made it a closed loop is probably because of causality. As you mentioned in your video about causality. Causality is also linked to spacetime. Spacetime explains gravitation.If you mess with causality you mess with spacetime and hence effecting gravity itself!
"the effect is the cause". This remind me of coincidences or synchronicity, where the future is the cause of coincidence, or fate. Like soulmates are supposed to be together so their lives pulls them toward to be together. The outcome is the cause.
I believe this movie is like total recall, source code, and inspection with hence of terminator I believe artificial intelligence was tested on the protagonist and like total recall the main character wanted to be a spy and the protagonist in this movie is a spy and the AI created this reality for him just like inception people putting things into other people dreams to abstract information and I believe there was a glitch in the AI and has the protagonist caught in a time loop that will never end and just like the movie source code the protagonist want to find out how to escape the loop he was traped this is why you are seeing so many characters having different time laps in the movies
@Iteration Zero the concept is based on traveling through time, forward and backward-- as the narrator of this video states "goes back time". Perhaps you don't understand it
@Iteration Zero all i know is that you're introducing a distinction no one was arguing just so you can say yOu HaVeN't UnDeRsToOd iT like a true iNtElLeCtUaL lmao
@@2kmichaeljordan438 the blk guy he founded the tenet division in the future. the womans kid grows up to travel back in time to help the blk guy. so he pretty much knows everything but cant tell the blk guy. and the blk guy cant tell the kid. otherwise it would change things. so the old version of kid only really know something when i said everything. and the bad guy was the 2nd person to time travel. the blk guy wants to stop him. why they save the woman or why woman shoots bad guy is just bad writing
@@GrownManPat it’s extremely compressed. Important elements are barely mentioned. If you missed the dialogue, which some found garbled, you could be confused about various things.
Its not that hard to understand you just shouldnt think very hard about it being any kind of reality. Its science fiction not science. They magically allow objects to reverse chronology in comparison to objects around it. If you can just accept the premise (as a premise, not as a plausible reality) the movie is much more enjoyable. It touches on fatalism and free will amongst other topics.
@@justinlevy274 Free will. I was thinking about what Nolan's views on free will was almost throughout the entire movie. I wish I wasn't so fucking high while watching it, but it really helped with one thing though: I didn't try to "understand" the inversion part of the movie - just flowing along observing what was happening.
The one part I haven’t seen too many people talking about is how Kat saw herself jumping off of the yacht and not realizing it was her future self. In the restaurant after the protagonist brings her the painting she had the flashback to Vietnam and how she came back to the boat with her son and saw another woman jumping off the boat, and noted how she was envious of the “other woman’s” freedom to leave. What she didn’t realize was that she was the one who essentially freed herself from Sator. Genius writing from Chris Nolan. Genius.
@@skaetur1 I don't think that she knew when she was on the boat that it was her but she knew before she jumped off the boat that she was the woman she had seen at that time...
@@skaetur1 she didn't know about time inversion when she saw that, so she could not have known it was herself. but it is nice that she was envious of the 'other woman' and wanted to be her, and it turned out it was herself, so she ended where she wanted to be
The word "Neil" in Hindi means the color blue. And the blue team was moving back in time. So it's a hidden reference. Neil's character was always moving back in time
So Neil is actually the true protagonist since he is the chosen one that was recruited and sent on a save the world mission to accompany the protagonist
Yes, even Priyah confirmed, when TP said "im THE protagonist" she replies with no "your A protagonist", and also Kat speaking of Max theorised to be Neil she says "Hes Everything". Neil is truly the central player
@A M I disagree. I think Nolan changed his style from creating well-executed dramas to creating mind-bending unique experiences. We can see that change from Dunkirk. There's no story or drama in Dunkirk. Just the experience of being on that beach at that point in time. He did the same in this one. There are a lot of time-travel movies with entertaining drama aspects and well-written characters, but I can't think of any other movies which succeeded in creating the hallucination-inducing experience of time-travel like this one ( I can think of Dark btw :) ). And the reason I have noticed this because there's a director who does movies in my mother tongue that took such a shift in his making. Most of his movies are made around the story-drama- character orientation in a very unique way but for the past 3 movies, he took a similar approach like this, i.e taking an aspect or concept and making it into an experience without giving much importance to the story and characters. And his latest movie is nominated from here to compete in oscar for the foreign film category.
@A M I will agree on certain points you made. Even I feel that this movie can be forgettable since it won't make any emotional connection at all. But calling it a total BS will be a little to harsh. Because it's still a crazy experience even though one can't understand much from it. Anyway like you said, let's agree to disagree.
@A MYou are right about the insensible plot twist and all ( I have only watched it once, don't know if I'm going to get anything more on rewatching). In that department, it literally felt bland for me. But I'll give a 9/10 on the experience part of the reverse entropy/time travel aspect. Other one's had the emotional quotient in it, but this one nailed the pure experience part. I say that because of that other movie which made in my locality with a similar style. There's no plot in it other than a Buffalo escaping from the slaughter house in a village and creating havoc everywhere while the villagers try to catch it. That one too got the same kind of criticism from audience, but it was like a roller-coaster experience on the big screen. People who went for a plot driven movie cursed it to the core, but for the others it was an unforgettable experience. BTW I'm from India, where are you from, man?
What if one of the reasons Nolan hired John David Washington was so that that Denzel Washington could play the older version of the protagonist in the sequel.
Even before watching the movie, and knowing how Nolan plays with the concept of time, I was hoping that Denzel would make a surprise appearance in the film, the way Matt Damon did in Interstellar.
When the protagonist meets Neil for the first time and Neil orders drinks, the protagonist tells Neil he is “well informed” to know he doesn’t drink on the job, but he prefers soda water to actual soda. However, if you’ve already seen the movie you then you realize it is much more than Neil being “well informed” when Neil tells the protagonist he doesn’t actually prefer soda water. It is experience since Neil is moving in the past. Subtle detail like that is crazy in this movie.
Same here fam. I keep having moments where I am imagining time running backwards when I see certain things out of place at my house or my office at work lol. This movie has been such a blessing to my imagination.
Me too. My sister in law had a huge party yesterday, the day I saw this, and the whole time we were playing beer pong and taking shots but I really wasn’t in the moment, I was actually thinking about the movie during the party and how the plot screwed with me. Lol
Absolutely! I just saw it for a 2nd time tonight & was much more satisfied and closer to a full understanding than my 1st showing. The sound quality seemed much better especially the dialogue & general audio mix than previously, though you do have to rise to the challenge and exercise a degree of focus and attention that is rarely tested especially for a big budget spectacle action movie.
The movie is getting nowhere near as much love from audiences as it deserves - but I guess that’s not surprising considering how uncompromisingly smart it is. It’s an absolute masterpiece, my favorite film in years.
A movie that released in cinemas in the midst of a global pandemic isn't getting much attention? Who could have guessed? Besides, I'd say the reason it's not getting much attention is that, beyond the inversion and editing, it doesn't have much going for it. The characters and plot aren't the most interesting or engaging (your average "spy saves the world"), it's all about how inversion can be seen and how it can be used for action scenes. That's not to say the inversion wasn't incredibly impressive, but its not enough in my eyes. For me, it also doesn't help that since there is no instance in the movie proving time can be changed, the "save the world stakes" are non-existent. The bad guys can't succeed in destroying the world because the world is still standing. It is the job of the main good guy to save the world, so if the world is still standing, the main good guy must have succeeded in killing the bad guy. Doesn't give much indication of true free will if all of our actions are predetermined.
@@randokaratajev2617 It only has a 73% or so on Rotten Tomatoes, and the general consensus from critics on TH-cam averages around a B or so. To me, it was INCEPTION-level mind-blowing, and unexpected the discourse around TENET to be just as enthusiastic as it was around INCEPTION in 2010. But it just doesn’t seem to be. So yeah, it somehow feels underrated still.
@@colemartin9230 It's a sad "destiny"... Neil always knowing that he has to complete his time loop or he would create a paradox, always dying the same way. The beauty of it is that he's willing to do it because a) he knows that what's at stake is bigger than him (saving the world) and b) to save the protagonist life bc he needs to create Tenet in his future but also because the protagonist is his friend.
Michael Cain’s character is also the soldier with the beret. That’s why he knows so much. It’s why the soldier with the beret, and Cain, are so nice to the Protagonist. They’ve been friends for years.
I don't think so. I don't understand why everyone is saying that Neil went back in time. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I understand it: The Protagonist went back in time, built Tenet and recruited Neil, but Neil never had to go back. He got all the information from the Protagonist and that's why he knows so much. At the end of the movie he dies, so he has a normal timeline. He got recruited by future Protagonist and did his mission, no loops.
Damn. Neil MVP. Does that mean that Neil had to travel back in time for literal YEARS to arrive in the time of the film (since it's assumed that he is Maximillien) ?
@@GeneralTaco155555a I believe that as well, however why hasn’t he aged? Assuming of course he was an adult when he was recruited then traveled back decades.
@@bryanglenn2107 we don't know how far in the future Neil traveled back from or how old he is 🤷♂️ Also, since it's somewhat implied to be the son, maybe he was only recruited by the protagonist when he was, say 20, and was trained and did other missions/ temporal pincers until he made it all the way back to the events of the movie. The relationship between Neil and the Protagonist is most likely reversed too, so they meet up for missions over the years, and from the Protagonist's perspective, Neil keeps getting younger until the date he is recruited/sent back.
I just watched tenet again and remember in the first 5 minutes of the movie when that swat guy figured out the protagonist is a fake swat and someone shoots the swat guy. But before he shoots him it shows a bullet hole go back to normal then he gets shoy. When they show who shot him the guy is already turned around and he has a red chord hanging from his backpack. It was fucking neil. That's why he said I'll see you at the beginning at the end of the movie. He was literally talking about the beginning of the movie. Mind blown!
Which also means the protagonist in the future must of told him where he was gonna be at in order to save his life. No telling how many times he actually saved the protagonist in the past before they officially meet.
He meant that to set up the sequel.. Nolan is telling the story backwards. The end of TENET is the end of the plot/story. The world is saved but there’s still questions that need to be answered, the sequel/s will answer that. The beginning = the beginning of the journey/plot.
@@MGBranco Neil can't be the kid really. Time inversion would mean that if Neil is the kid... He would have to wait to grow up to be, let's say, 30. Then he would have to invert himself... Wait more 30 years to go back to the beginning of Tenet. That would make him 60. So I don't see Neil being the kid.
William James Neil IS the kid he is Sator son that’s why he takes care of kat so well when she’s injured cause that’s his mom and if you pay attention he knew the exact date of the trip on the yatch cause he was their as a child The kid grew up then protagonist hired him then sent him back to guide him in the past
@@AK.__ What about letting other people spend their freetime however they want? Tenet is literally made to be re-watched. I've discovered so many details up to my 4th time.
@@juliantschope9672 My comment was with bit of sarcasm. You can re-watch any video / movie as you like. But, the fact that individual rewatches something, doesn't really tell that the is masterpiece. I do like the movie, and I do like some other Nolan's works. However at the bottom line, considering everything - it just another action movie with great actor's play, visual effects and thrill elements.
I love you get the impression that the "cavalry" are incredibly comfortable with the mechanics. Like this is something that has been going on for a LONG time now.
I was firstly extremely grateful for being able to see this in IMAX, I really missed cinema, on average I go to the cinema at least 3 times a month, depending on what’s showing. So the last 6 months was a big gap. And then the movie itself was great, I really enjoyed it. Nolan is very brave with his complex plots. I tried not to overthink the physics because that will break my brain. Also loved the score, I’ve actually listened to it a few times now, and so impressive considering this had to be done remotely with all musicians working from home.
@@jassykat so because they went through a second turnstile in the past, that cancelled out their inverted selves allowing them to move forward in the past?
Excellent breakdown! Regarding the “Free-will” issue: When the Protagonist is first briefed with the bullets, and asks this, the scientist woman says, “It wouldn’t have moved if you hadn’t put your hand there.” This is REALLY important to understanding the “physics” of this movie (and the physics of film itself as a medium). Nevermind what might have happened had the events not unfolded that way, they did. This is most obvious in the “Art vault” fight. It HAD TO go exactly that way, and the Protagonist’s future-self understood this.
Great explanation! I never thought about the fact that Sator would probably know about the explosion that occurred. Christopher Nolan seems to think of everything. Definitely my favourite director :)
I think you missed that a pincer maneuver is military maneuver used to isolate a group of soldiers. In this case the temporal pincer was used to isolate Sator into blowing himself without taking the world with him. Basically isolating sators timeline from the protagonist timeline
I understand the Pincer and trying to see the movie as a glimpse of the time loop. My only problem is... how were they able to save the world the first time? The future protagonist couldn’t travel back in time to save the world because everyone should have died. And since there is no way to move to the future just backwards then it makes no sense to me. Unless I missed something in the convos. I guess thinking about it could be the future protagonist realized the plan of whoever was sending messages to the past. Recruited Neil and travel back in time to prevent it. Which means that the fact that the future protagonist was still alive means they were successful in stopping it and you can’t change the “present.” Because by everyone still being alive in the present means that they didn’t die in the past. And the movie is just showing us part of the “loop” timeframe when this took place meaning it always took place... Man, this is playing with my brain but I think I finally get it.
You nailed it by the end of your comment but the confusion stems from looking at time linearly which is hard to shake. The film doesn't do us any favors in this regard because inverting against linear events is a large part of the plot; effectively, we're being forced to see time linearly while being told that we shouldn't lmao. Inversion doesn't flip time itself, it just flips the inverted object's perspective of time (their entropic direction). There is only one way this could've happened because what happened happened. There is no version of reality in which Sator and the future succeed otherwise we wouldn't be watching any of these events play out. Maybe in a parallel universe which is what the future is banking on (hence negating the grandfather paradox) but not in this one. When we move "forwards" in time our future is the future's past, and when we move "backwards" in time our past is the past's future. So all we're seeing in Tenet is a glimpse of events which couldn't have been any different, meaning that while we watch these characters "struggling" for the conclusion that they want, they're actually just characters playing out their temporal roles in a deterministic drama. Of course, a character like Sator didn't realize he was the losing party in this drama until the moment Kat showed him her scar. In a way, it renders the film pointless because everything we see is exactly as it has to be and literally can't go any other way LOL! Now my head hurts as well 😅 P.S. I think the absolute best way to understand any of this is to stop perceiving time as objectively moving forwards and backwards, but rather, as merely a function of our perspective.
@@kybercrowI’m two years late but this validates my view and I appreciate the wording. There’s no free will for the characters in this movie, what happened simply happened because a greater force decided it for them, that can look at the dimension of time from the outside. Like you said, we are forced to see it through our dimension.
In one of the scenes with in the lab, the researcher says "Either way you look at the tape, you made it happen. Don't try to understand it, feel it." I think Nolan is making this point to us - the audience which applies to the whole movie itself. He calls move as an experience..... So, just feel it, don't understand it.
Question: How many years Neil went back in time? Time traveling is only possible in inverting the time. So Neil has to travel years. Lets say Max is 10 when his mother met the protagonist. And lets say Neil is 35 when he met the protagonist. The difference is 25, so Max (Neil) has to travel 12,5 years backwards at an age of 22,5. Ok. that means we will screw our climate in 2032.
Neil probably met tP (or was introduced to inversion/Tenet) at a much younger age to have followed the path of study he chose. This could mean he traveled further back in time or that he goes back and forward again and again, over the same periods of time. He would still age in both directions. And the moment he meets tP isn’t necessarily the moment our ecology was compromised. The truth is that it already is compromised in real life but the levels discussed in the movie will take more time to manifest.
Tenet finally came out on TH-cam and Amazon....I can finally watch all of these Tenet videos Heavy Spoilers has been putting out over the last 3.5 months!!!
Imagine making a movie where the scenes take place in a dream within a dream. The protagonist has to rescue a person on Miller's planet (Interstellar). But on reaching there, he finds that he is minutes late. So he inverts himself to rescue the person. Nolan: Challenge accepted!!
SIMPLE: 1. All the time travel(inversion) are happening in a fixed loop. 2. You cannot change what happened, everything will happen in the same way always. 3. You cannot jump from time to time, once you are inverted you have to live through it inversely to get to a specific point in time. 4. People who are inverted (Great example Neil) Feeding intel to the person in current time is called “A Temporal Pincer movement”.
@@justinlevy274 really? I thought it was lime the oxygen instead of breathing in, they were breathing out, wait but then then they would still breath normal
I think the Protagonist is the one that went back in time and recruited the young Neil. Neil only participated in the temporal pincer on the scene while the Protagonist was the one that made this entire big temporal pincer off scene. Since Neil said that: “you have a future in the past”
i thought that the protagonist was the one travelling back from the future, because neil says you have a future in the past, years ago for me, so i thought the protagonist went inverted recruited neil in the past and told him everything before they meet
meaning the protagonist knew neil would die when he sent him back he knew neil wouldn't come back that's why neil too said this is an end of a friendship so my guess is neil knew he would die too
Just watched the movie here in WA, USA and i actually managed to not watch your vid until afterwards!!! The movie was amazing and luckily enough, watching your prior videos might have thought me to look at plots differently (Westworld, Devs ...), so the ending was rather clear :) What an amazing movie!
Inconsistencies I found in the movie: 1. How normal matter interact with inverted objects. In our perspective (going forwards in time), inverted objects/beings have their effect before the cause. For example, the bullet hole is there initially, before it is 'caught' by the inverted gun, 'HEALING' the bullet hole. If that is how matter going forwards in time interact with inverted objects/beings, then why didn't Kat have a bullet hole initially forming as she approaches the event where she gets shot, and then having it healed after the inverted gunshot? I get it if she's harmed by the radiation, but clearly, there's' a bullet hole and wound from her stomach. 2. The Protagonist's puncture wound and Neil's death. For The Protagonist (inverted version), his wound starts bleeding/forming before he gets stabbed at FreePort. When he gets re-stabbed in reverse, his wound healed, indicating that for inverted people being harmed by uninverted objects, the effect comes first before the cause (in inverted perspective). If that is the case, does that mean that Neil should be dead or at least wounded initially as he exits the turnstile, and then healed as the bullet goes back to the Russian's gun? I don't see any problem with the plot's timeline. However, inconsistencies like these take me out of my movie immersion, especially since it is the main driver of the story (for example, Kat being shot was essential to the movie's conclusion). Feel free to correct me. I might be missing something. Thanks.
Nobody will correct you cause people, like this video say they understand whats going on but only recap the movie scene without explaining it further cause they dont even know that they dont really understand....also at the final temporal pincer a person reversed back into a wall implying that the person was in the wall at the start of the mission
The difference is that Kat was not inverted, so for her time is still moving forward, she has not had not been in that room before. The protagonist I'm case 2 is moving backwards, so his body is going back to the moment where he will get stabbed.
Can you explain me the car chase scene? In the SUV moving backwards (from Protagonists an Neils perspective) we see an inverted Sator inside (mask on) but also Kat wearing no mask - "later", when Kat was shot (for the Protagonist a shot catching the bullet, but for Sator a "regular" one), she was wearing a mask and Sator not. If she was inverted in this scene, which the mask implicates, the healing process doesnt make sense. Did Sator inverted after getting his pincer informations and take the uninverted Kat into the car? What is the inverted Sator doing after getting the Plutonium? Was he inverting back in regular time, while Kat inverted backwards? Was Kat shot by the univerted Sator? Maybe I remember this scene incorrectly, because I watched it only one time.
1. Is explained well by Inigo. Take a watch of PHdeng's explanation (link below) of time inversion. It's by far the best and most simple explanation on youtube. If you plot it using his method, you'll see that she will remain hurt since she's uninverted being shot by an inverted husband. She basically will be hurt for the rest of the future and the wound getting worse over time until she dies. th-cam.com/video/aNQ3pyngtYM/w-d-xo.html
inversions inside inversions may confuse our brain....just came out from the theater but I will need a second run to fully understand it! Well pointed out but I think they were on a different timeline inversion....
How about this one. The word TENET is literally a temporal pincer itself. TENET is the word Ten, both forwards and backwards, combined. TEN+NET. The final battle is 10 minutes, one going forward and one in reverse. So it’s Ten + Net.
Your theory is based on the Rotas square. Basically, the entire table is a palindrome so for some words if you read it back, it reads like you normally would. If I typed in lol, it's going to read as lol backwards. The Rotas square is the same thing and in the middle of the table you see the word Tenet. Since you've seen the movie, there are certain words being mentioned and it's all based on the Rotas square.
@@Jsfilmz protagonist only means main character, not the "good™" guy, tough taking the perspective of a character for a whole movie tends to make you excuse all their BS as justified.
I just realized what actually happened second by second in the film. Now the fun part is reading Tenet comments and watching people being confused as hell 😂 You really have to watch it more than once to understand it
He wasn’t always inverted. At the end of the movie we find out that after the movie ends he goes and inverts himself to go back to make sure all of the events happens (I think)which I’m pretty sure puts him into a time loop for his eternity.
Id like to know more about the algorithm. How can it actually end the world? whats the relation with the weird shapes/objects that the algorithm splits into?
Yeah, it's not exactly time travel in the sense we think of it. Such as travelling instantaneously to the past or future. It's actually, like the movie says, reverted entropy. Like we've all seen in the movie, it's someone or something being inverted in time, that is, not going forward like we all do, instead, going back. So their future isn't the same as ours now, heading "forward". Their future is our past. Yeah, I'm sure many already know this. Just thought to share this, regardless.
LOL! Thats exactly how Nolan confuses himself in his cartoony films by making senseless stuff (mostly inspired by better classic movies - The Descanted, Predestination, Dr. Strange) He even fails to follow his own logic (inversion needing mask to breath). How to expect others to follow it? 🍷
It's easy to follow but a lot needs to be explained to fully understand it.. saw a video where they said Neil is actually the lil boy max who is later mentored by the protagonist in the future... That blew my mind
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I can watch this 2nd time. 😁
Another reason Monsieur Nolan made it a closed loop is probably because of causality. As you mentioned in your video about causality. Causality is also linked to spacetime. Spacetime explains gravitation.If you mess with causality you mess with spacetime and hence effecting gravity itself!
"the effect is the cause". This remind me of coincidences or synchronicity, where the future is the cause of coincidence, or fate. Like soulmates are supposed to be together so their lives pulls them toward to be together. The outcome is the cause.
I believe this movie is like total recall, source code, and inspection with hence of terminator
I believe artificial intelligence was tested on the protagonist and like total recall the main character wanted to be a spy and the protagonist in this movie is a spy and the AI created this reality for him just like inception people putting things into other people dreams to abstract information and I believe there was a glitch in the AI and has the protagonist caught in a time loop that will never end and just like the movie source code the protagonist want to find out how to escape the loop he was traped this is why you are seeing so many characters having different time laps in the movies
“If you haven’t had time to watch Tenet” HEYOOOO I love it brotha!
Just finished TENET can't wait for Nolan's next film Dunkirk!
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
Hope he does a space travel
No, you just finished watching TENET backwards, and now you can't wait to watch Dunkirk backwards.
Tenet played with time in such a beautiful way. Hopefully Nolan messes with time some more.
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A Temporal Pincer is definitely one of the coolest and most original concepts put to film in a long time
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what lol
@Iteration Zero the concept is based on traveling through time, forward and backward-- as the narrator of this video states "goes back time". Perhaps you don't understand it
@Iteration Zero all i know is that you're introducing a distinction no one was arguing just so you can say yOu HaVeN't UnDeRsToOd iT like a true iNtElLeCtUaL lmao
I've now spent more time watching videos about TENET than time watching the movie itself!
I still don’t understand more than half the movie
This is the 3rd explaination vids i've watched
@@bendmadio i am 7th down, and still too many holes to plug
i can top that. i clocked over 100hrs on videos dissing new star wars movies. and 0 hrs watching the movies
@@2kmichaeljordan438 the blk guy he founded the tenet division in the future. the womans kid grows up to travel back in time to help the blk guy. so he pretty much knows everything but cant tell the blk guy. and the blk guy cant tell the kid. otherwise it would change things. so the old version of kid only really know something when i said everything. and the bad guy was the 2nd person to time travel. the blk guy wants to stop him.
why they save the woman
or why woman shoots bad guy is just bad writing
One more thing, the opening WB logo was in Red and ending one was in Blue.
damnnn
OMG
Damn I just returned the movie back to redbox 😫
yeah cause now the protagonist is sending himself back in time to meet young neil and have fun
Does that mean that the we should watch the movie backwards then?
Tenet needs an extended cut. This movie has to be 3+ hours to fully comprehend all those expositions.
Akshay Daga dude 2 seasons worth of content
It really isn't much to explain. They tell and show you everything you need to know.
@@mohammedfahd8908 actually a good idea. Tenet - webserie
@@GrownManPat it’s extremely compressed.
Important elements are barely mentioned. If you missed the dialogue, which some found garbled, you could be confused about various things.
@@westmcgee9320 I think that's another argument for having better sound editing and perhaps subtitles, not so much the plot itself :)
Just saw the movie . Can’t wait for the trailer.
The trailer is amazing time for the title now :3
Haha
waiting for the teaser trailer now
Christopher Nolan just announced his new movie will be Tenet.
The End....
of the beginning;
Loop closed.
@@paulnolan4971 just watched interstellar wonder what he'll come out with next?
Great portrayal by Robert Pattinson. Absolutely love him.
Glad to see him shake off that Twilight silliness.
@@ZENIGMATV "We live in a twilight world"
@@aniruddh_d16 LOL they just had to say that in the movie, almost as if taunting him
ZENIGMATV I was today years old when I realized that he was the guy from Twilight... Thanks to you of course lol I never actually saw Twilight either
'Good Times' was the film that made me realise how good of an actor Pattinson is, he was excellent in The Lighthouse too
When it came to watching this film, I followed the advice from one of the characters early in the film, "Don't try to understand it. Feel it."
Feel Like that was super important bit of dialogue right to the audience
Except I couldn’t feel it. It seemed like it was more important to understand it.
@@martialbro5 Just saw this in IMAX a few hours ago and I completely agree.
Its not that hard to understand you just shouldnt think very hard about it being any kind of reality. Its science fiction not science. They magically allow objects to reverse chronology in comparison to objects around it. If you can just accept the premise (as a premise, not as a plausible reality) the movie is much more enjoyable. It touches on fatalism and free will amongst other topics.
@@justinlevy274 Free will. I was thinking about what Nolan's views on free will was almost throughout the entire movie. I wish I wasn't so fucking high while watching it, but it really helped with one thing though: I didn't try to "understand" the inversion part of the movie - just flowing along observing what was happening.
The one part I haven’t seen too many people talking about is how Kat saw herself jumping off of the yacht and not realizing it was her future self. In the restaurant after the protagonist brings her the painting she had the flashback to Vietnam and how she came back to the boat with her son and saw another woman jumping off the boat, and noted how she was envious of the “other woman’s” freedom to leave. What she didn’t realize was that she was the one who essentially freed herself from Sator. Genius writing from Chris Nolan. Genius.
Wow. That's amazing...
She fully knew it was herself. She was referring to her other self’s freedom.
@@skaetur1 I don't think that she knew when she was on the boat that it was her but she knew before she jumped off the boat that she was the woman she had seen at that time...
@@skaetur1 no she didn’t
@@skaetur1 she didn't know about time inversion when she saw that, so she could not have known it was herself. but it is nice that she was envious of the 'other woman' and wanted to be her, and it turned out it was herself, so she ended where she wanted to be
Christopher Nolan movies are about filmmaking:
Memento = screen writing
Inception = directing a film
Tenet = becoming insane on the editing floor
Just imagine how the insane the cuts left out would’ve been
Prestige is about tricking the audience
😂😂😂
What could he possibly do next?
On a movie completely shot on celluloid film camera. They should've had a blast editing this movie.
anyone else find that inverted reverted explosion of the tower aesthetically appealing at the battle of Stalsk 12
It was badass
one of the best scenes
how did they shoot that scene ?
@@saadomar1101 Nolan, that's how.
Soooooooo good
During the scenes from Blue Teams POV, the music is even reversed!
I especially love that part of the score! Total genius.
The score is fantastic!
wmaOOOOamw reversed is still wmaOOOOamw
And it helps a lot, I must say!
Wow! I didn’t catch that!
The word "Neil" in Hindi means the color blue. And the blue team was moving back in time. So it's a hidden reference. Neil's character was always moving back in time
It's Maximilien (that little boy) Lien reverse is Neil
Makes no sense man
I thought you needed to produce your own oxygen if your moving back in time according to this movie?
@@aarongutierrez7705 yea Sato didn't have that as well when he went back to the past
@@AgentDoomIIIV sator could have just inverted to that point and could have just univerted himself before going to yacht.
So Neil is actually the true protagonist since he is the chosen one that was recruited and sent on a save the world mission to accompany the protagonist
Did you think the romance was a bit forced?
@@amiradicoolisa8407 Yes indeed, although it was subtle and we knew he needed her for the plot, the romance part was unnecessary.
Oh my God, you are right
Well he is Nicole's son.
Yes, even Priyah confirmed, when TP said "im THE protagonist" she replies with no "your A protagonist", and also Kat speaking of Max theorised to be Neil she says "Hes Everything". Neil is truly the central player
I wish Einstein was alive to watch tenet and explain to us through his youtube channel. Dayum, that would have been something.
@A M I disagree. I think Nolan changed his style from creating well-executed dramas to creating mind-bending unique experiences. We can see that change from Dunkirk. There's no story or drama in Dunkirk. Just the experience of being on that beach at that point in time. He did the same in this one. There are a lot of time-travel movies with entertaining drama aspects and well-written characters, but I can't think of any other movies which succeeded in creating the hallucination-inducing experience of time-travel like this one ( I can think of Dark btw :) ). And the reason I have noticed this because there's a director who does movies in my mother tongue that took such a shift in his making. Most of his movies are made around the story-drama- character orientation in a very unique way but for the past 3 movies, he took a similar approach like this, i.e taking an aspect or concept and making it into an experience without giving much importance to the story and characters. And his latest movie is nominated from here to compete in oscar for the foreign film category.
@A M I will agree on certain points you made. Even I feel that this movie can be forgettable since it won't make any emotional connection at all. But calling it a total BS will be a little to harsh. Because it's still a crazy experience even though one can't understand much from it. Anyway like you said, let's agree to disagree.
@A MYou are right about the insensible plot twist and all ( I have only watched it once, don't know if I'm going to get anything more on rewatching). In that department, it literally felt bland for me. But I'll give a 9/10 on the experience part of the reverse entropy/time travel aspect. Other one's had the emotional quotient in it, but this one nailed the pure experience part. I say that because of that other movie which made in my locality with a similar style. There's no plot in it other than a Buffalo escaping from the slaughter house in a village and creating havoc everywhere while the villagers try to catch it. That one too got the same kind of criticism from audience, but it was like a roller-coaster experience on the big screen. People who went for a plot driven movie cursed it to the core, but for the others it was an unforgettable experience.
BTW I'm from India, where are you from, man?
@A M Thanks mate, we'll sure do our best 😊. It was good talking to you.
c2 m = e
What if one of the reasons Nolan hired John David Washington was so that that Denzel Washington could play the older version of the protagonist in the sequel.
Even before watching the movie, and knowing how Nolan plays with the concept of time, I was hoping that Denzel would make a surprise appearance in the film, the way Matt Damon did in Interstellar.
Hi doesn't look like Denzel Washington at all, except hi is also black ) So there is no point in that casting choice. And Nolan doesn't make sequels
You can just use makeup to age him.
@@MrChipMC Yes he does. Three Batman movies, to be precise.
@@johnreynolds7996 I am talking about his original stories
I just finished Tenet and I can’t wait for it to start!
I will go back in time to tell you about it😁
!trats ot ti rof tiaw t'nac I dna teneT dehsinif tsuj I......... your comment just got reverted
The more I think about this movie the more I realize how genius it is
The only mistake you can make while watching a Nolan movie is to blink.
Genius
Or to go to a toilet "just for a minute" lol
@@DA-bm2mj lol yeah.
Or breath
@@euphoriaashoor7348 lol yeah.
When the protagonist meets Neil for the first time and Neil orders drinks, the protagonist tells Neil he is “well informed” to know he doesn’t drink on the job, but he prefers soda water to actual soda. However, if you’ve already seen the movie you then you realize it is much more than Neil being “well informed” when Neil tells the protagonist he doesn’t actually prefer soda water. It is experience since Neil is moving in the past. Subtle detail like that is crazy in this movie.
That's no big deal. I know what my step-dad liked to drink too.
8:08 You're not far off. Sir Michael Caine is, in fact, referred to as Sir Michael in the movie.
Haha
Ive been thinking heavy about this movie lmao
Everyday, it’s weird
Same here fam. I keep having moments where I am imagining time running backwards when I see certain things out of place at my house or my office at work lol. This movie has been such a blessing to my imagination.
Me too. My sister in law had a huge party yesterday, the day I saw this, and the whole time we were playing beer pong and taking shots but I really wasn’t in the moment, I was actually thinking about the movie during the party and how the plot screwed with me. Lol
All of you guys are like me lol. Wait do we know each other. Lmao
BLACKTACULA97 they are you a day and a month later
Tenet is one of the best movies!!!
Yeah so so good
Idc about when people say it's confusing or inconsistent. I love it. It's Chris nolan what not to miss. Ready to buy the Blu Ray now
Absolutely! I just saw it for a 2nd time tonight & was much more satisfied and closer to a full understanding than my 1st showing. The sound quality seemed much better especially the dialogue & general audio mix than previously, though you do have to rise to the challenge and exercise a degree of focus and attention that is rarely tested especially for a big budget spectacle action movie.
@@brentulstad3275 I loved the feeling of not understanding what was going on in the movie, but knowing that something cool was happening!
The first viewing was difficult to understand but after a while you get hyped to see it for the first time
The movie is getting nowhere near as much love from audiences as it deserves - but I guess that’s not surprising considering how uncompromisingly smart it is. It’s an absolute masterpiece, my favorite film in years.
In what part of milky way galaxy does this movie not get recognition? You sure you from earth?
A movie that released in cinemas in the midst of a global pandemic isn't getting much attention? Who could have guessed?
Besides, I'd say the reason it's not getting much attention is that, beyond the inversion and editing, it doesn't have much going for it. The characters and plot aren't the most interesting or engaging (your average "spy saves the world"), it's all about how inversion can be seen and how it can be used for action scenes. That's not to say the inversion wasn't incredibly impressive, but its not enough in my eyes.
For me, it also doesn't help that since there is no instance in the movie proving time can be changed, the "save the world stakes" are non-existent. The bad guys can't succeed in destroying the world because the world is still standing. It is the job of the main good guy to save the world, so if the world is still standing, the main good guy must have succeeded in killing the bad guy. Doesn't give much indication of true free will if all of our actions are predetermined.
@@randokaratajev2617 It only has a 73% or so on Rotten Tomatoes, and the general consensus from critics on TH-cam averages around a B or so. To me, it was INCEPTION-level mind-blowing, and unexpected the discourse around TENET to be just as enthusiastic as it was around INCEPTION in 2010. But it just doesn’t seem to be. So yeah, it somehow feels underrated still.
@@randokaratajev2617 He said love not recognition
Tenet is the movie primer woth an actual budget
In a way, Neil was continually taking two steps back, one step forward.
he's stuck in an infinite loop lmao
@@colemartin9230 It's a sad "destiny"... Neil always knowing that he has to complete his time loop or he would create a paradox, always dying the same way. The beauty of it is that he's willing to do it because a) he knows that what's at stake is bigger than him (saving the world) and b) to save the protagonist life bc he needs to create Tenet in his future but also because the protagonist is his friend.
Nolan has always been a mind blower, but with tenet he outdid himself. Each time I blinked as I was watching it I had to go back at least two scenes.
I think he should be charged for the total mind phuck it was... although me continuing to watch the movie was giving him permission. I never said "NO"
I would love to see a video explaining Neil’s multiple inversions and timelines in the end battle
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Michael Cain’s character is also the soldier with the beret. That’s why he knows so much. It’s why the soldier with the beret, and Cain, are so nice to the Protagonist. They’ve been friends for years.
bruh, think about it, Niel doesnt have a future because he will always be going backwards in time. What a legendary sad fate
nope, niel does have a future, but his destiny is locked to this event
@@msakbar12345 yeah I suppose that’s true, but I feel like from an outward perspective its sad and incredible at the same time
he has a future, for whatever long 20 something years till he came back to this loop and got killed
I don't think so. I don't understand why everyone is saying that Neil went back in time. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I understand it: The Protagonist went back in time, built Tenet and recruited Neil, but Neil never had to go back. He got all the information from the Protagonist and that's why he knows so much. At the end of the movie he dies, so he has a normal timeline. He got recruited by future Protagonist and did his mission, no loops.
If you know, you better die a hero than a coward.
The use of Red and Blue throughout this movie is deliberate and helpful...
This video helped a lot because I watched Tenet tomorrow and was confused.
Great video. Other vids I've watched missed the point about the explosion needing to happen so Sator believes he wins.
Damn. Neil MVP. Does that mean that Neil had to travel back in time for literal YEARS to arrive in the time of the film (since it's assumed that he is Maximillien) ?
Yes. He would have to stay inverted the same amount of time he wanted to travel back, and then go through a turnstile in order to revert.
@@GeneralTaco155555a I believe that as well, however why hasn’t he aged? Assuming of course he was an adult when he was recruited then traveled back decades.
@@bryanglenn2107 we don't know how far in the future Neil traveled back from or how old he is 🤷♂️
Also, since it's somewhat implied to be the son, maybe he was only recruited by the protagonist when he was, say 20, and was trained and did other missions/ temporal pincers until he made it all the way back to the events of the movie.
The relationship between Neil and the Protagonist is most likely reversed too, so they meet up for missions over the years, and from the Protagonist's perspective, Neil keeps getting younger until the date he is recruited/sent back.
Correction: sator does not want to bury the algorithm so that future can find it. he wants to destroy the entropy of time then and there
I just watched tenet again and remember in the first 5 minutes of the movie when that swat guy figured out the protagonist is a fake swat and someone shoots the swat guy. But before he shoots him it shows a bullet hole go back to normal then he gets shoy. When they show who shot him the guy is already turned around and he has a red chord hanging from his backpack. It was fucking neil. That's why he said I'll see you at the beginning at the end of the movie. He was literally talking about the beginning of the movie. Mind blown!
Which also means the protagonist in the future must of told him where he was gonna be at in order to save his life. No telling how many times he actually saved the protagonist in the past before they officially meet.
Neil is the kid!
He meant that to set up the sequel.. Nolan is telling the story backwards. The end of TENET is the end of the plot/story. The world is saved but there’s still questions that need to be answered, the sequel/s will answer that. The beginning = the beginning of the journey/plot.
@@MGBranco Neil can't be the kid really. Time inversion would mean that if Neil is the kid... He would have to wait to grow up to be, let's say, 30. Then he would have to invert himself... Wait more 30 years to go back to the beginning of Tenet. That would make him 60. So I don't see Neil being the kid.
William James Neil IS the kid he is Sator son that’s why he takes care of kat so well when she’s injured cause that’s his mom and if you pay attention he knew the exact date of the trip on the yatch cause he was their as a child
The kid grew up then protagonist hired him then sent him back to guide him in the past
Who gets the message?
Posterity.
Yeah, The Descanted .. 🍷
I liked how the "time travel" was still linear, it just mattered which direction they were going. There wasn't displacement, like Back to the Future.
Already watched it twice, already planning my third watch! Another masterpiece by Nolan.
It will end the same. There are many good books to reads, no need to spend a time rewatching a pop movie.
@@AK.__ What about letting other people spend their freetime however they want? Tenet is literally made to be re-watched. I've discovered so many details up to my 4th time.
@@juliantschope9672 My comment was with bit of sarcasm. You can re-watch any video / movie as you like. But, the fact that individual rewatches something, doesn't really tell that the is masterpiece. I do like the movie, and I do like some other Nolan's works. However at the bottom line, considering everything - it just another action movie with great actor's play, visual effects and thrill elements.
I love you get the impression that the "cavalry" are incredibly comfortable with the mechanics. Like this is something that has been going on for a LONG time now.
I was firstly extremely grateful for being able to see this in IMAX, I really missed cinema, on average I go to the cinema at least 3 times a month, depending on what’s showing. So the last 6 months was a big gap. And then the movie itself was great, I really enjoyed it. Nolan is very brave with his complex plots. I tried not to overthink the physics because that will break my brain. Also loved the score, I’ve actually listened to it a few times now, and so impressive considering this had to be done remotely with all musicians working from home.
Shut you’re lips
Saw this movie on Monday and haven't stopped thinking about it, thanks for the content!
My brain is still struggling to understand this concept. Confused AF.
Just keep in mind its a loop, you will understand more as we move backwards
I can't understand why the Protagonist required to wear a mask to go the car chase and Niel is not wearing mask
@@2wardruid2 because Niel reversed himself again being already inverted. So a forward version of him is in the past.
@@jassykat Oh, now I see, thanks !
@@jassykat so because they went through a second turnstile in the past, that cancelled out their inverted selves allowing them to move forward in the past?
Excellent breakdown!
Regarding the “Free-will” issue: When the Protagonist is first briefed with the bullets, and asks this, the scientist woman says, “It wouldn’t have moved if you hadn’t put your hand there.” This is REALLY important to understanding the “physics” of this movie (and the physics of film itself as a medium).
Nevermind what might have happened had the events not unfolded that way, they did. This is most obvious in the “Art vault” fight. It HAD TO go exactly that way, and the Protagonist’s future-self understood this.
It's ironic that this film was meant to be enjoyed and analyzed like 2 years after its release.
Great explanation! I never thought about the fact that Sator would probably know about the explosion that occurred. Christopher Nolan seems to think of everything. Definitely my favourite director :)
there isn't actually an army. neil just inverted and reverted himself a thousand times over. he aged a year to pull off those 10 minutes
Who told u
I think it’s just a joke
I think you missed that a pincer maneuver is military maneuver used to isolate a group of soldiers. In this case the temporal pincer was used to isolate Sator into blowing himself without taking the world with him. Basically isolating sators timeline from the protagonist timeline
I understand the Pincer and trying to see the movie as a glimpse of the time loop. My only problem is... how were they able to save the world the first time? The future protagonist couldn’t travel back in time to save the world because everyone should have died. And since there is no way to move to the future just backwards then it makes no sense to me. Unless I missed something in the convos.
I guess thinking about it could be the future protagonist realized the plan of whoever was sending messages to the past. Recruited Neil and travel back in time to prevent it. Which means that the fact that the future protagonist was still alive means they were successful in stopping it and you can’t change the “present.” Because by everyone still being alive in the present means that they didn’t die in the past. And the movie is just showing us part of the “loop” timeframe when this took place meaning it always took place...
Man, this is playing with my brain but I think I finally get it.
What's happened happened.
You nailed it by the end of your comment but the confusion stems from looking at time linearly which is hard to shake. The film doesn't do us any favors in this regard because inverting against linear events is a large part of the plot; effectively, we're being forced to see time linearly while being told that we shouldn't lmao. Inversion doesn't flip time itself, it just flips the inverted object's perspective of time (their entropic direction).
There is only one way this could've happened because what happened happened. There is no version of reality in which Sator and the future succeed otherwise we wouldn't be watching any of these events play out. Maybe in a parallel universe which is what the future is banking on (hence negating the grandfather paradox) but not in this one.
When we move "forwards" in time our future is the future's past, and when we move "backwards" in time our past is the past's future. So all we're seeing in Tenet is a glimpse of events which couldn't have been any different, meaning that while we watch these characters "struggling" for the conclusion that they want, they're actually just characters playing out their temporal roles in a deterministic drama. Of course, a character like Sator didn't realize he was the losing party in this drama until the moment Kat showed him her scar. In a way, it renders the film pointless because everything we see is exactly as it has to be and literally can't go any other way LOL!
Now my head hurts as well 😅
P.S. I think the absolute best way to understand any of this is to stop perceiving time as objectively moving forwards and backwards, but rather, as merely a function of our perspective.
@@kybercrowI’m two years late but this validates my view and I appreciate the wording. There’s no free will for the characters in this movie, what happened simply happened because a greater force decided it for them, that can look at the dimension of time from the outside. Like you said, we are forced to see it through our dimension.
I'm in awe of how incredible this movie is.
In one of the scenes with in the lab, the researcher says "Either way you look at the tape, you made it happen. Don't try to understand it, feel it." I think Nolan is making this point to us - the audience which applies to the whole movie itself. He calls move as an experience..... So, just feel it, don't understand it.
Pincer Movement is a move from the Art of War written in 500BC. Now a 21st century filmmaker took it to the next level. Kudos Sir Nolan.
Me: thinking of commenting great video
Also me: Only 2 minutes in
Looool
So you listened to my advice & posted this video. Good job.
I've watched Tenet twice and still can't stop thinking about after all these weeks!
Nolan's Following movie was really lit and underrated. Just finished starting of the first scene.
Question: How many years Neil went back in time?
Time traveling is only possible in inverting the time. So Neil has to travel years. Lets say Max is 10 when his mother met the protagonist. And lets say Neil is 35 when he met the protagonist. The difference is 25, so Max (Neil) has to travel 12,5 years backwards at an age of 22,5. Ok. that means we will screw our climate in 2032.
Neil probably met tP (or was introduced to inversion/Tenet) at a much younger age to have followed the path of study he chose.
This could mean he traveled further back in time or that he goes back and forward again and again, over the same periods of time.
He would still age in both directions.
And the moment he meets tP isn’t necessarily the moment our ecology was compromised. The truth is that it already is compromised in real life but the levels discussed in the movie will take more time to manifest.
It's actually impressive how you can come up with so many dad jokes in every single video
seriously
"If you havent seen Tenet yet, then I recommend that you GO BACK and check it out" - Nice one! :)
Just finished watching Tenet can't wait to start watching Tenet
Tenet finally came out on TH-cam and Amazon....I can finally watch all of these Tenet videos Heavy Spoilers has been putting out over the last 3.5 months!!!
Imagine making a movie where the scenes take place in a dream within a dream. The protagonist has to rescue a person on Miller's planet (Interstellar). But on reaching there, he finds that he is minutes late. So he inverts himself to rescue the person.
Nolan: Challenge accepted!!
I noticed that Neil is similar to Kyle Reese in Terminator: Both sent from the future to complete their missions.
Just finished TENET, Can't wait to be born!
Just finished watching TENET and waiting to watch INCEPTION....
SIMPLE:
1. All the time travel(inversion) are happening in a fixed loop.
2. You cannot change what happened, everything will happen in the same way always.
3. You cannot jump from time to time, once you are inverted you have to live through it inversely to get to a specific point in time.
4. People who are inverted (Great example Neil) Feeding intel to the person in current time is called “A Temporal Pincer movement”.
I think the biggest thing to get is point 2. People dont seem to graspnthe fatalism of the story.
The only thing I don’t understand is why they need oxygen masks when they’re inverting
@@2kmichaeljordan438 essentially so the viewer can tell whos inverted or not. The explanation is a pretext.
@@justinlevy274 really? I thought it was lime the oxygen instead of breathing in, they were breathing out, wait but then then they would still breath normal
"I get it now. What's happened has happened." -The Protagonist
I think the Protagonist is the one that went back in time and recruited the young Neil. Neil only participated in the temporal pincer on the scene while the Protagonist was the one that made this entire big temporal pincer off scene. Since Neil said that: “you have a future in the past”
You mean The Antagonist?
Just finished watching the movie. Cant wait to watch it.
If tenet part 2 is made then its gonna be the prequel of this part 1 where protagonist recruits neil 🤯🤯
i thought that the protagonist was the one travelling back from the future, because neil says you have a future in the past, years ago for me, so i thought the protagonist went inverted recruited neil in the past and told him everything before they meet
meaning the protagonist knew that neil was going to die when he recruited him in the future?
meaning the protagonist knew neil would die when he sent him back
he knew neil wouldn't come back
that's why neil too said this is an end of a friendship so my guess is neil knew he would die too
Just watched it for the 3rd time
What did you think
@@heavyspoilers Probably my 2nd favourite movie from Chris. But thank you videos i understood it fully.❤🙏
same. and It may not be the last.
Best explanation/clarification of the whole premise of Tenet! OUTSTANDING VIDEO!…🔥🔥🔥
Just watched the movie here in WA, USA and i actually managed to not watch your vid until afterwards!!! The movie was amazing and luckily enough, watching your prior videos might have thought me to look at plots differently (Westworld, Devs ...), so the ending was rather clear :) What an amazing movie!
You've been a big help after watching the movie lol
Inconsistencies I found in the movie:
1. How normal matter interact with inverted objects.
In our perspective (going forwards in time), inverted objects/beings have their effect before the cause. For example, the bullet hole is there initially, before it is 'caught' by the inverted gun, 'HEALING' the bullet hole. If that is how matter going forwards in time interact with inverted objects/beings, then why didn't Kat have a bullet hole initially forming as she approaches the event where she gets shot, and then having it healed after the inverted gunshot?
I get it if she's harmed by the radiation, but clearly, there's' a bullet hole and wound from her stomach.
2. The Protagonist's puncture wound and Neil's death.
For The Protagonist (inverted version), his wound starts bleeding/forming before he gets stabbed at FreePort. When he gets re-stabbed in reverse, his wound healed, indicating that for inverted people being harmed by uninverted objects, the effect comes first before the cause (in inverted perspective). If that is the case, does that mean that Neil should be dead or at least wounded initially as he exits the turnstile, and then healed as the bullet goes back to the Russian's gun?
I don't see any problem with the plot's timeline. However, inconsistencies like these take me out of my movie immersion, especially since it is the main driver of the story (for example, Kat being shot was essential to the movie's conclusion).
Feel free to correct me. I might be missing something. Thanks.
Nobody will correct you cause people, like this video say they understand whats going on but only recap the movie scene without explaining it further cause they dont even know that they dont really understand....also at the final temporal pincer a person reversed back into a wall implying that the person was in the wall at the start of the mission
The difference is that Kat was not inverted, so for her time is still moving forward, she has not had not been in that room before.
The protagonist I'm case 2 is moving backwards, so his body is going back to the moment where he will get stabbed.
Can you explain me the car chase scene? In the SUV moving backwards (from Protagonists an Neils perspective) we see an inverted Sator inside (mask on) but also Kat wearing no mask - "later", when Kat was shot (for the Protagonist a shot catching the bullet, but for Sator a "regular" one), she was wearing a mask and Sator not. If she was inverted in this scene, which the mask implicates, the healing process doesnt make sense. Did Sator inverted after getting his pincer informations and take the uninverted Kat into the car? What is the inverted Sator doing after getting the Plutonium? Was he inverting back in regular time, while Kat inverted backwards? Was Kat shot by the univerted Sator?
Maybe I remember this scene incorrectly, because I watched it only one time.
1. Is explained well by Inigo. Take a watch of PHdeng's explanation (link below) of time inversion. It's by far the best and most simple explanation on youtube. If you plot it using his method, you'll see that she will remain hurt since she's uninverted being shot by an inverted husband. She basically will be hurt for the rest of the future and the wound getting worse over time until she dies.
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inversions inside inversions may confuse our brain....just came out from the theater but I will need a second run to fully understand it! Well pointed out but I think they were on a different timeline inversion....
has anyone else been walking backwards or pretending to speak backwards to mess with friends now?
Yooo
Lollll
bro i pretend that i'm inverted and everything around is moving backwards
Watched tenet today and i cant wait for his final film Following. Absolute world apart piece of art😮. The past is absolutely beautiful❤😢
Just finished watching the credits, reversing threw the video and really enjoying the eivom.
Barry Allen: I am the only one who can screw with timelines.
Christopher Nolan: Hold my temporal pincer.
How about this one.
The word TENET is literally a temporal pincer itself. TENET is the word Ten, both forwards and backwards, combined. TEN+NET.
The final battle is 10 minutes, one going forward and one in reverse. So it’s Ten + Net.
Nice
Your theory is based on the Rotas square. Basically, the entire table is a palindrome so for some words if you read it back, it reads like you normally would. If I typed in lol, it's going to read as lol backwards. The Rotas square is the same thing and in the middle of the table you see the word Tenet. Since you've seen the movie, there are certain words being mentioned and it's all based on the Rotas square.
how bout this the word protagonist means good guy in english and the protagonist in the movie is a good guy *Mind Blown*
@@Jsfilmz protagonist only means main character, not the "good™" guy, tough taking the perspective of a character for a whole movie tends to make you excuse all their BS as justified.
SATOR
AREPO
TENET
OPERA
ROTAS
"unsubscribe?" How DARE u even suggest such uh thing
I would only unsubscribe while time is inverted
@@kurtneytodman9360 while time is inver... 🤔... 😶... 🙃
blasphemy
@@OhRightPictures u gd rite
I just realized what actually happened second by second in the film. Now the fun part is reading Tenet comments and watching people being confused as hell 😂
You really have to watch it more than once to understand it
Best explanation I've found. Future me is going to send me a link to this sooner!
I often say, "your welcome" to future-me whenever leaving a gaff tape roll end folded.
If Neil was always inverted and going backwards, why didn't he ever need an oxygen mask
Double inversion
He wasn’t always inverted. At the end of the movie we find out that after the movie ends he goes and inverts himself to go back to make sure all of the events happens (I think)which I’m pretty sure puts him into a time loop for his eternity.
He wasn’t always inverted. When we meet him he is from the future but he is traveling through normal time just like the protagonist
Can you imagine trying to use the bathroom inverted?! Omg think on that, doing a number 2 inverted.
The poop goes back in the butt
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“Just like pissing in the wind”
Watch Red Dwarf episode -Backwards-this happens to the Cat
convinced that those trying to explain it dont actually understand themselves
Like this dude. He said Neil is from the future that is why he knows things about JDW
LOL love it. In other videos about Tenet, Michael Kaine's character is referred to simply as 'Michael Kaine' hahaha
I see what you did there Paul, the beginning loops into the end which restarts the loop, you’re getting good at this! 👍🏻✌️🏻
Unforeseen: future protagonist is played by Denzel, but that's not his characters name.
Id like to know more about the algorithm. How can it actually end the world? whats the relation with the weird shapes/objects that the algorithm splits into?
Last time I saw an actor as talented, smooth, and charismatic as John David Washington was in Tenet, it was Denzel. Excited to see what he does next.
Yeah, it's not exactly time travel in the sense we think of it. Such as travelling instantaneously to the past or future.
It's actually, like the movie says, reverted entropy.
Like we've all seen in the movie, it's someone or something being inverted in time, that is, not going forward like we all do, instead, going back. So their future isn't the same as ours now, heading "forward". Their future is our past.
Yeah, I'm sure many already know this. Just thought to share this, regardless.
Time... it is a "Relative" simple concept, great explanation right there.
This movie is so confusing even Christopher Nolan has to watch videos on it
LOL! Thats exactly how Nolan confuses himself in his cartoony films by making senseless stuff (mostly inspired by better classic movies - The Descanted, Predestination, Dr. Strange) He even fails to follow his own logic (inversion needing mask to breath). How to expect others to follow it? 🍷
I love how Sator wasn’t a complete oblivious idiot.....He was always multiple steps ahead and was a worthy opponent for the protagonist.
This is the second time I've watched this video including other breakdowns and I still don't understand this movie. Lol
I just saw it last night and I'm with you. But don't rush it because it will eventually click.
It's easy to follow but a lot needs to be explained to fully understand it.. saw a video where they said Neil is actually the lil boy max who is later mentored by the protagonist in the future... That blew my mind
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This video explains it the best. Once you understand the pincer, everything makes much more sense.