The Science Behind TENET Explained | Time Travel, Block Universe Theory And Entropy

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  • @heavyspoilers
    @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Let us know your thoughts on the movie below.

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looooool

    • @shaikhaziz8280
      @shaikhaziz8280 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you didn’t say “definition” during the start of the video

    • @HeathenGeek
      @HeathenGeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Time travel? What happens in the past was always meant to happen in the past? When are we getting the Predestination (2014) vid? I'm not nagging, you're nagging 🙂

    • @sety5591
      @sety5591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heavyspoilers hey I've been thinking about the light-source entering the eye problem, wouldn't the conclusion is same as an inverted-bullet was? a person will get hit by a bullet regardless of whether it is inverted or not? isn't Photon is simply a faster bullet?

    • @curtis25920
      @curtis25920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they can't change the past then what's the point of a temporal pincer movement?

  • @markvillani8836
    @markvillani8836 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Watching Tenet by myself in an empty theater was the best fun of the summer :)

    • @endlessfreedomful
      @endlessfreedomful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ditto, i did the same

    • @mandumetheking
      @mandumetheking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here... All alone!!😁

    • @MacAttack3310
      @MacAttack3310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same! It was awesome sitting in the middle seat of an IMAX by myself

    • @ronaldp.vincent8226
      @ronaldp.vincent8226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I got to see it in Imax by myself! Lol, there is no way they made money on that showing.

    • @mandumetheking
      @mandumetheking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ronaldp.vincent8226 They've said it already, it was a mistake. I did enjoy it, though.

  • @BarunMishra
    @BarunMishra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    About the point about being unable to be able to see because the light has not yet hit the object - since we are going down to that level of breakdown...here is a counter-theory. In the normal world, light reflects off an object, gets processed in the retina, image gets processed in the brain and we "know" that we saw something. In reverse - we would know that we saw it even before the light hits the retina. Maybe like in Arrival - where she remembers what happens even before it happened. So yeah - in reverse, you would have the memory of having seen something without your "inversed body" having seen it yet. I think this makes sense but my brain gets mixed up while putting Tenet logic to words haha

    • @alexgorbacov6099
      @alexgorbacov6099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Right, you would feel the foton before it hits the retina. The same as being wounded before getting shot.

    • @jamie110896
      @jamie110896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      A counter-counter theory, would you not un-remember it once the light leaves your retina? My minds completely boggled....

    • @alexgorbacov6099
      @alexgorbacov6099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jamie110896 I will use this movie logic. You would not un-remember it. Your theory works only if everything is reversed. But in the movie protagonist vas reversed, and the world was not. So every time he saw something, light particle would fly out of his eye, his retina was already impacted from the beginning.

    • @kubajurka
      @kubajurka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      but isn't this all kinda pointless, since when you invert, you don't necessarily relive your past backwards?
      also I'm pretty certain light wouldn't give a shit about you going "against" it since it can only move at a constant speed, also we see things by "catching" photons scattering off of them so I really don't see it causing problems with inversion

    • @trinity.channel
      @trinity.channel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "You are inverted, the world is not!"
      As the world is not inverted, light would not go backwards from your eyes, because light is not inverted... It will hit your retina, and you will be able to see...

  • @Feefa99
    @Feefa99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Does anyone thought that Neil "backwards traveling" means that he spent more time in reverse than in forward time?
    So he was most of his time closed somewhere in containers.
    What a great life.

    • @ihtemad
      @ihtemad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes that is what's bugging me. But there was a certain time gap between two realities if you have noticed it. Maybe there is a way of leaping through time by using this gap.

    • @NoonMight
      @NoonMight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean he is at least 25 or up years old, and i assume when you backwards travel not only do you lose oxygen but i imagine you de age as well. So if he spent most of his life normal up into the point where he backwards travel, he has probably only been doing it for a few years rather than his whole life. So maybe a few years in special containers.

    • @ewulocto9649
      @ewulocto9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      First we have to admit that Neil and Max never have to be the same person. So we can safely assume that Neil came from the future not so far.
      But still, Neil must have been going backwards for few years. With environment pretty hostile, that is like going to Mars. You have to bring significant amount of life support with you.

  • @julilolmo19
    @julilolmo19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    Tenet will become relevant in 10 years mark my words

    • @Steven_Segura
      @Steven_Segura 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      More like a couple months

    • @wt1272
      @wt1272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Already is

    • @mayureshbakare3021
      @mayureshbakare3021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So have u been travelling back for 10 years?!

    • @agentsmith_
      @agentsmith_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's relevant if you know why. 🙂

    • @plbenton
      @plbenton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      .ydaerla tnemmoc siht tfel t’nevah I

  • @bundeswher
    @bundeswher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The level of commitment in the explanation on this videos is unreal, never expected hearing “Block universe theory with diagrams” or
    “Discuss what space-time is” in these videos lol
    I had waited months to see these videos after watching tenet just this week lmao, awesome work!

  • @fits4390
    @fits4390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Two things wrong in this video: One, you would still be able to see if you were inverted. There is a biochemical mechanism that your rods and cones use to absorb photons in order to create a signal to your brain that lets you see. If that process were reversed, it would simply mean you perceive an image in your brain (i.e. sight), that then causes reversed nerve signals to be sent to your retina, which then causes your rods and cones to emit photons, which then go off and strike the things you saw. If you were inverted, you would still be able to see just fine, but it would be because of the photons leaving your eyes (as perceived by a forwards person), not because of the ones entering.
    Two: the scientist he referenced that disputed the car explosion scene clearly did not understand the physical rules that would follow from the premise Nolan laid out. Nolan isn’t making the claim that by traveling backwards through time hot becomes cold and cold becomes hot-He’s saying that heat transfer is a time dependent process. If something was freezing in the past, then you set fire to it, the heat transfers from the fire to the frozen object to thaw it. If you watch this process in reverse, it looks as though a fire is absorbing energy from the object to freeze it.

  • @callumread5973
    @callumread5973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Even though Tenet is by far from my favourite Nolan film, I’m really looking forward to rewatching it. Now I’m more familiar with the ins and outs of the plot from videos like yours it’ll be great to watch it and focus more on some of the more subtle emotional aspects like the Neil theory. Definitely gonna pick it up on Blu-ray when it eventually comes out and would be over the moon to put it alongside the Nolan 4K collection if I win!

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah it’s weirdly one of those films that gets much better after a second watch

    • @MRefaat
      @MRefaat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spoiler Alert....
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      The scene with the Blue team approaching the blast site, you can see Neil’s car pulling people going back into the hole.
      And when Inverted Neil goes is running to go to the turnstile, at the far right of the screen you can see Forward Neil running backwards because later from that perspective he will be running forwards to go get the car

  • @ottebya
    @ottebya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just realized something (and knowing Nolan he likely was aiming at this intentionally) this idea that "what has happened has and must happen" is exactly what a film narrative is, you never watch a film a second time expecting anything to be different, you know what choices the characters have made and must make and yet we still can enjoy rewatching film due to the experience it instills, it is impactful, emotional and moves us as viewers. THIS IS A PERFECT ALLEGORY FOR OUR LIVES as depicted by the temporal logic of this film, we may have no free will and yet life is still meaningful and provides an experience of autonomy to us that we can revel in. This is blowing my mind haha 😂

  • @manart6506
    @manart6506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It would be interesting to ask Nolan where the idea from fire making ice came from because to me it makes sense... if fire is a chemical reaction that expels heat, the fire being in reverse would take heat to make chemicals, then freezing stuff.

    • @TheRealToaster2
      @TheRealToaster2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, another way of looking at it is that whenever fire burns something, it ends up with a higher temperature. The car ended up at room temperature after being burned, so it must have started at a colder temperature. Since our protagonist is inverted, he ends up at the starting temperature, which is freezing.
      Regular time: frozen car -> fire -> room temp car -> car crash -> car driving.

  • @spoonfedtruth7666
    @spoonfedtruth7666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this movie I think people don't like it because they either didn't pay attention or didn't understand. It's marvelous. Nolan is amazing how could this not be a work of art. You did your homework on this one. Good job I'm subbing for all the work

  • @bonoki3870
    @bonoki3870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this film. there's so much to discuss with each viewing. this film will be talked about for years to come.

  • @TheOnlyNeptoon
    @TheOnlyNeptoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just finished Dark and boy with 3 seasons they made time travel a bit easier to understand. Wouldn't be surprised if the World of Tenet shares the same universe

  • @willw1375
    @willw1375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 'light' problem was the first thing I thought of.. Photons would be moving back towards all light source so you would essentially be blind if you were inverted.

  • @pikasalsachu
    @pikasalsachu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your explanation of entropy, made me realize why meditation is so important, order! in mind, spirit, body.
    keep it cool

  • @tavnerphillips4490
    @tavnerphillips4490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the Tenet analysis. Helps clear like two things (really helps my friends A LOT)

  • @steffantaylor3189
    @steffantaylor3189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After a few weeks of letting this movie sink in, thanks to your videos and some of my own ideas you really come to realise how genius this movie is and how original the whole idea of it is. Deffo will be getting this on blu ray for Christmas but would also love to see it on the big screen again

  • @johnreynolds7996
    @johnreynolds7996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My understanding of entropy is that you can reverse it on a local scale, but it requires outside energy to do so. So on an overall scale entropy is still winning. That's how a fridge works: the compressor and heat/exchanger is cooling the contents of the fridge, but the heat that is created in that process still has to be dissipated via the fins on the back of the fridge, so overall your kitchen gets a tiny bit warmer and energy disorder is increased a tiny amount. So pouring energy into a small area can allow you to "build up" complexity, but at the cost - overall - of increased disorder i.e. increased entropy.

  • @publiclyshamed5383
    @publiclyshamed5383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is an “old” video but I just finally saw Tenet and it’s great that my favorite channel has a dozen videos on the subject. I’m a huge Nolan fan and am glad you’ve given ample time to analyzing this masterpiece.

  • @NaveenKumar-wn7op
    @NaveenKumar-wn7op 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The first thing I thought when The Protagonist gets inverted was, “How on earth the Electromagnetic Waves(i,e Light) will be available for the Protagonist in the Normal way. Isn’t it he should be blind”. My friend nearby said, “ Dude you have just spoiled the movie”.

    • @sety5591
      @sety5591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      think of a light as a faster bullet, it solved the problem because in the movie it showed people getting shot by bullet backward and forward. Light is just a faster bullet.

    • @amaklp
      @amaklp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I think this video doesn't fully understand the physics of the movie.

    • @NaveenKumar-wn7op
      @NaveenKumar-wn7op 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Meta Man wow dude thats a lot of msgs tks bro

  • @anthonyatkins8179
    @anthonyatkins8179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the main thing that gets me is the theory of anti matter that states that if they reversed the symmetry and geometry of particles and trajectory it will turn into anti matter and explode on contact. You can't really have this type of time travel in our reality.

  • @Moose1993
    @Moose1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Entering the giveaway contest and enjoy your channel a lot, but unfortunately you got two things wrong in this video.
    1. You could still see if you were inverted because we don't see "objects" like you say, our retinas interpret light and send electrical signals to our brain which creates an image representing the object. So, as long at light is bouncing all around, an inverted person could still see.
    2. It is not that an inverted person wouldn't feel heat, it is that the transfer of heat is reversed. This is basically core to the movie's internal logic as the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics deals with entropy and the flow of heat between isolated systems. For example, you hold an ice cube in your hand and it melts, but your hand also feels colder because your hand and the ice cube are reaching equilibrium. If the process were magically reversed like in Tenet, your hand would feel hotter and the ice cube would get colder.
    So, yes it is science-fiction, but it is internally consistent, and most people I see saying that it didn't make sense or wasn't well thought out or had giant plot holes simply misunderstood what actually happened. I would recommend reading the script if you can find it for clarification.

  • @SeaBiscuit2342
    @SeaBiscuit2342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When Paul told me to stop watching this at work while watching this at work, I felt that.

  • @mariakhan6090
    @mariakhan6090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love how this movie totally avoids the many paradoxes associated with time travelling

    • @lonelystranger7114
      @lonelystranger7114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nolan should have gone with the multiverse explanation. It is almost ludicrous to think that humans travelling into the past would not disturb the time-space fabric, no matter how hard they try not to.

    • @irsatahir8844
      @irsatahir8844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't know if Nolan was aware of this at the time he was writing the film, but it's been recently mathematically proven that time is self correcting. So everything that is supposed to happen HAS to happen, and it will happen no matter what. So for example, if you tried to stop your parents from meeting in the past, time would correct itself and make it so that your parents meet at another point in time. I think this would account for majority of paradoxes created in the movie.

    • @eingoluq
      @eingoluq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lonelystranger7114 If he went the multiverse explanation then he wouldn't have a film. The whole point of the film is that there is only 1 timeline. That is why "Ignorance is our ammunition" was constantly said. Because time can not be changed, what can happen will happen, So the people involved have no free will. knowing their future may prevent the events from happening because the cause and effect scenario will fall apart.

    • @lonelystranger7114
      @lonelystranger7114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eingoluq yeah, that's made quite evident throughout the movie. My point, however, still stands. There are a lot of people traveling inversely and consequently 'forwards from the past' in the movie and thus it is not just a question of free will but the basic meddling nature of humans that makes the plot unbelievable. Unless you throw in a mysterious agency that forces all the people (incliding all those operatives and soldiers) to respect the sanctity of a singular timeline.
      Even if we go by the notion of unalterable timeline, wouldn't the people from the future, with all the time available to them for experimentation, be aware of that fact and recognize the futility of the whole exercise. The movie expects the audience to take many leaps of faith just to present a visually cool experience.

    • @YouTube_MusicStyle
      @YouTube_MusicStyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like all these time travel movie's are paradox lol, if the world wasn't in danger they wouldn't have to go back in time to save it, if they didn't go back in time to save it it would be in danger- paradox
      if they did save the world, there would be no danger in the future therefore they wouldn't have to go back in time - paradox
      If it's all a linear timeline, they could do whatever they wanted and whatever happened happens and it wouldn't change the outcome. Just going around in circles.
      Plus what if Neil's the real bad guy?

  • @armanargynbayev3939
    @armanargynbayev3939 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great explanation. I don't understand why few people have watche it. Your explanations are the best on TH-cam!

  • @SonnyBLightSun
    @SonnyBLightSun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Homelander's reaction to this video
    "... mm WOW!" Paul, you must be something special."

  • @earth14rocco36
    @earth14rocco36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic Paul, teaching me lessons I nvr knew I not just wanted... but NEEDED

  • @Boxxcutter
    @Boxxcutter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Your explanation just in the first couple of minutes - your first sentence, even - explained so much, so easily digestible compared to other screaming youtubers.. awesome

  • @roadnottaken2780
    @roadnottaken2780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan Simmons, in his sci-fi Novel series Hyperion Cantos, already mentioned things like anti-entropy , things travelling back in time, etc and that was late 80's. I think Nolan may be aware of his Novels.

  • @benevolentconcepts
    @benevolentconcepts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I am impressed! I have watched your videos about other productions (most notably GoT)..... your breakdown of entropy and your obvious grasp of these time dynamics, plus the research you have done.... is really something! I just watched Tenet last night, and woke up with a feeling of obsession ..... Thank you for giving me something else to chew on 👍

  • @penelopelaw7851
    @penelopelaw7851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this informative video! Really helped to settle my constant wondering about the whole science and truth behind entropy, inversion, flow of time etc. After seeing this film for the second time I have so much more understanding and appreciation for this intricate and revolutionary plot! Would absolutely love to own the entire Nolan collection on 4K and relive his filmography time and time again 🤞🤞

  • @DilsonRochedo
    @DilsonRochedo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The speed of Light is a constant in the universe,independently from what frame of reference you mesure an event,so the speed of light would be the same if entropy could be reversed. The direction of the light beams is irrelevant, because the photons scatter everywhere,unless it is a laser.

  • @neilthompson3401
    @neilthompson3401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    but, that's not a grid, that's the rubiks cube they give out to people in bolton to keep them busy for a few weeks.

  • @francescorengifo
    @francescorengifo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    at 5:38 I had to click off because I need to watch it before seeing this, GREAT JOB you might have just revealed the secret to immortality.

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahahha I hope so! I kinda have a weird feeling that when you die you lose your perception of time so can relive your life in the block but im probs just talking crap, maybe we should all just live in a fridge

    • @foodchewer
      @foodchewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a particularly good kind of immortality though, as far as I can tell. Do you want to live this very same life over and over again, without any deviation each time you live it?

  • @shonaliu0510
    @shonaliu0510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    50 seconds into the video, "wait, scroll back and I need to watch it again."

  • @PeterJinKang
    @PeterJinKang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this! I'm going to watch it again with this information

  • @brianrottman6248
    @brianrottman6248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be sweet to see a breakdown of the technical aspect of filming Tenet-I can’t imagine the difficulty having to train actors/set up shots that are then reversed!

    • @crxcody1100
      @crxcody1100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simpler then you would think

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crxcody1100 It’s simple to say, but not easy to film. It’s one thing to hit reverse on everything and just have everyone go backwards but when half are supposed to go forwards and half backwards in the same shot, when you have complex choreography, or even car chases, yeah, that’s not as simple as you’d think.

  • @MrSiegenfeldt
    @MrSiegenfeldt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just love it that you have to warn people of spoilers - its in the name of your channel goddammit :D haha

  • @vaniaalmeida3795
    @vaniaalmeida3795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:32 ahhh of course . You were explaining interstellar !!

  • @williamwarrington
    @williamwarrington 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this is so freaky, my day is spot on i am at work watching TH-cam and the time is 9:30 am ....this time travel thing is real! Way to make it real!

  • @23yits6
    @23yits6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess you really are watching me in my curtains, I did indeed cry when you mentioned Neil's death XD

  • @cosmicvoidtree
    @cosmicvoidtree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This first thing I was concerned about when Protagonist got inverted, was if light would work. I tried thinking about it as best I could but couldn’t come to a conclusion. I gave up and let decided not to think about it too much.

  • @papafotisdimitrios1054
    @papafotisdimitrios1054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to a theory, entropy diminishes when the universe stops expanding and begins shrinking, we can't test it until a couple of billion years later so let's just enjoy the movies...

  • @brock7047
    @brock7047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very smart! Mind blown 🤯

  • @donna25871
    @donna25871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me want to go and see Tenet again.

  • @gabrielaliaga3599
    @gabrielaliaga3599 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly this movie was a little hard to understand but watching your video and some others has made me want to re watch it so I can enjoy it even more

  • @thevfxwizard7758
    @thevfxwizard7758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From my understanding, temperature doesn't invert, but instead the change in temperature. When you set something on fire, it heats up gradually until it goes out and stays hot for a while. Played in reverse, the fire takes away the heat until the object is at room temperature. Since the protagonist is already at room temperature before being set on fire, the only logical explanation is that he becomes colder.

    • @fits4390
      @fits4390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. Nolan isn’t making the claim that by traveling backwards through time hot becomes cold and cold becomes hot-He’s saying that heat transfer is a time dependent process. If something was freezing in the past, then you set fire to it, the heat transfers from the fire to the frozen object to thaw it. If you watch this process in reverse, it looks as though a fire is absorbing energy from the object to freeze it.

    • @eingoluq
      @eingoluq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are making a big mistake. Don't forget, that when you are inverted, the environment is not. So light from the sun for instance will still hit your inverted body and heat it up. So if you and the fire are both inverted, it would act normally. but if one is inverted and the other isn't what will happen is you will start to get hot before the fire starts. getting hotter and hotter until the fire starts. That is a mistake I think they made in the film. where fire makes inverted objects colder.

    • @thevfxwizard7758
      @thevfxwizard7758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eingoluq that is true, but there are some inconsistencies in the film such as bullet wounds fading into existence to solve some paradoxes.

    • @eingoluq
      @eingoluq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thevfxwizard7758 It the wound was caused by an inverted bullet you can technically un-shoot somebody no?

    • @thevfxwizard7758
      @thevfxwizard7758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eingoluq yes, so the would must have been there previously.

  • @bigc7t
    @bigc7t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking forward to seeing it

  • @chadcognac5626
    @chadcognac5626 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid video. Thx for explaining the science.

  • @henmaydostuff8338
    @henmaydostuff8338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now I gotta filter out that eyesight thing when I watch the movie, brilliant

  • @dcasey8413
    @dcasey8413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant wait to be able to watch it again but with the ability to pause and rewind to my hearts content

  • @tomhahnl1927
    @tomhahnl1927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done, good explanation!

  • @QuintonWare
    @QuintonWare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect timing. I finished this movie today and I was confused. The ending seemed abrupt lol.

  • @TheCuriousConnoisseur
    @TheCuriousConnoisseur 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Explaining Tenet's Ending scene ->
    a. How in Neil's perspective did the bullet move and kill him in the end ?
    b. How did Door lock unlock process work at end from Neil's perspective ?
    Before getting to that lets get some facts that the movie gave us -
    1. Neil in the End(The scene where they distribute parts of the algorithm) knew that he had to go back and open the lock .
    2. Neil also knew he was not going to come out alive .(Based on the dialogue -" This is an end to a beautiful friendship for me " with the protagonist ).
    3. Neil had also seen the protagonist experience of the wound in his arm in Oslo (both in forward and inverted directions) . Its Elaborated below .
    Now Answering ->
    How in Neil's perspective did the bullet move and kill him in the end ?
    Answer - In the scene in Oslo when The Protagonist(Inverted) is moving backwards in the time and is about to fight himself(who is moving forward and to his eye seems reversed ) , we see that the wound starts to develop slowly and keeps worsening as he moves forward in the inverted direction . It even starts to bleed when he is almost at the fighting point and Neil offers to mend it but due to lack of time is unable to tend to it .
    Based on the same concept -
    In the end , Maybe as Neil moved in the Inverted direction , bullet slowly started to develop in his head and his head started to hurt maybe. And then based on Facts (1,2 and 3) at this point he knows that he is supposed to take a bullet to his head and die . And finally when he reaches the point where he is shot , it is pulled out of his head and he dies .
    Now Answering ->
    How did Door lock unlock process work at end from Neil's perspective ?
    Answer - (An assumption is made here that the door was an auto locking door .) Notice when Neil in the Inverted Direction approaches towards the door , the door is locked and the protagonist and Ives are fighting the bad guy . He then opens the door . At this point he is doing something with the door (which is the only part I did not get) and is waiting , for the gun to be drawn towards the protagonist and come in between and take the inverted bullet and die . When he dies he falls down and mistakenly closes the door . And that is why from the protagonist's point of view when protagonist first reaches the door (in the normal forward direction) , the door is locked .
    Peace out .

  • @leobuniak425
    @leobuniak425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You’re getting a few steps closer to become a scientist yourself hahaha. Love your content

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ey thank you, been thinking how to properly map out those diagrams for a while now

  • @Ancor_Vantian
    @Ancor_Vantian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm think I sort of understand the movie as whole and the concept of inverted time.
    Fine, it's all good.
    /Now, please tell me, Where did the side mirror bullet came from!?
    Yes, it came from Sator's/henchmen's gun, we all saw that, ok.
    But _how_ or _when_ does it... 'materialize' in the mirror?
    _Where_ does it come from? Did just appeared/willed itself into existence in order to revert back to the gun?
    That's part I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around.

  • @squidwardknows5806
    @squidwardknows5806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So if it was raining, would an inverted person start getting wet (reverse drying) before stepping outside? Then when they walk outside, the water drops leave their body and return to the clouds. So they would be drying off in the rain 🤯

  • @sidewaysfcs0718
    @sidewaysfcs0718 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason the movie invokes freezing in an inverted fire is because in that scenario the inverted fire "starts" at room-temperature, and since it is inverted the temperature must go down.
    What they should have done is have the inverted fire "start" at a really high temperature and then cool down to room temperature.

  • @ncprime9447
    @ncprime9447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So I’ve watched the movie twice and a second viewing of it cleared up some things. But I’m still entirely vexed about the way the Turnstiles function. On the one hand they say it’s just a way to invert the entropy, and that you have to see yourself on the other side of the glass coming out etc. but then Sator goes back into one when he’s already been inverted and he doesn’t come out the other side, they say he’s actually ‘gone into the past’. This still confuses the hell out of me. Any explanation of the turnstiles?

    • @jspazz6354
      @jspazz6354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. The entire red room blue room scene explains it XD

    • @ncprime9447
      @ncprime9447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jspazz6354 Does it though? That's the scene I'm talking about where he goes in one end and disappears and it's "he went into the past"? So what's the deal there how does he not come out both sides the way the Protagonist comes out both sides in Oslo?? In Oslo he goes in the Blue side and when he undoes his inversion he comes out the red side (running from Pattinson) how does satori go in the blue side and not come out the red? It's like they just undid one of the rules of the film.

    • @jspazz6354
      @jspazz6354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ncprime9447 Alright, lemme break it down as best I can for you.
      The Protagonist came out of both Turnstiles at Oslo because he entered the building inverted and exited the turnstile moving forward through time. That's why we see him running away from Neil in the present, because he escaped into the present and not the past.
      Sator did the opposite. He came into the room moving forward, and left moving backwards. Everything we see Sator do in the blue room is "in the past" and after he shoots Kat in the blue room, he gets on the freeway and participates in the events of the car chase. Eventually he goes so far into the past as to reach the day of the battle of Stalsk-12 at the end of the film.
      Tenet isn't breaking any of its own rules, here. Watch the scenes on TH-cam, or map it out on a white board. I know I have XD

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Explain how the outside world views the time loops please. Can they interact with the time loops or what

  • @mat6894
    @mat6894 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had a second Paul to explain the first Paul’s explanation

  • @UnWorthySinn
    @UnWorthySinn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First Time Here 🔥🔥Keep It Up

  • @Hommiesyco
    @Hommiesyco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still in love with this movie.
    People who hated this movie will love it in a few years

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 ปีที่แล้ว

      People who hate this movie belong in two categories
      “I didn’t get it (because I turned my brain off and was on my phone half the time), therefore, it’s bad”
      “I was told to say it was bad, and I love jumping on bandwagons”
      The movie is an incredible achievement and a lot of fun once you both understand and feel it. Watched it again recently after its release and fell in love with it all over again.

  • @johnbarry1597
    @johnbarry1597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel, it's awesome dude!
    The way you simplify things which is.... Wait, how did you know I have a curtain? 😳😯

  • @the_jdb3351
    @the_jdb3351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never clicked so fast

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you enjoyed me boringly explaining diagrams

    • @the_jdb3351
      @the_jdb3351 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heavy Spoilers the diagrams actually really helped! I really appreciate your channel

  • @ryanmiles3701
    @ryanmiles3701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your video breakdowns

  • @dreamer2356
    @dreamer2356 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I actually cried in the theatre.

  • @Anthonycheesman33
    @Anthonycheesman33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I think you put more work into this than nolan did lol. This was one of those you gotta just go with it movies.

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah probably haha, ‘don’t think it, feel it’

  • @TheFunky57
    @TheFunky57 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing like a 15 second ad mid-explanation to help you understand.

  • @angelolima4811
    @angelolima4811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats the same thing i said about not actually showimg time travel but the perspective of inverse time

  • @gerrykissell4080
    @gerrykissell4080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey buddy. Posting from my personal account instead of Pop Culture Minefield.
    Great video! I really enjoyed Tenet, and its use of time travel. Brilliant!

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers famsterdam, thanks for dropping a comment

  • @artistry72
    @artistry72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do have a question. If it's not actually a time travelling, then how Neil come here to the protagonist from the distant future?
    And Suppose if I travel in time inversion , the surrounding people and other staffs travel backwards. Then wouldn't they see me that I'm in a normal state while they are moving backwards?

    • @sety5591
      @sety5591 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess they just hide and live in a container... and return to normal and pretended they never inverted.

  • @214Beans
    @214Beans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you think that they will give in and release the movie on DSPs?

  • @johnreynolds7996
    @johnreynolds7996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't it mentioned in the movie that the universal constants still work as expected even when you are inverted? Certainly I remember a line of dialogue where Wheeler explains that gravity is still gravity, so it holds you down rather than sends you flying into space (so to a non-inverted observer you appear to be defying gravity, and from your PoV non-inverted objects appear to jump upwards rather than fall downh - but those are simply due to the PoV of inverted vs non-inverted observers). So wouldn't something similar be happening w.r.t. light rays?

    • @Cuzjudd
      @Cuzjudd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then the movie couldn't happen

  • @TomtheMagician21
    @TomtheMagician21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I disagree with the theoretical physicist (at least on the temperature part) I made a table showing that if a hot and cold object are inverted from your point of view and you are watching, you would indeed see their temperatures diverge as from the inverted point of view, they are reaching equalibrium. If you want me to explain what I think of one cold reversed and one hot normal etc... then I’ll tell you what I think.

    • @crxcody1100
      @crxcody1100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please explain your theory further.

    • @TomtheMagician21
      @TomtheMagician21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crx Cody this is what I think
      Forwards POV:
      Hot_F + Cold_F = Equalise
      Hot_R + Cold_R = Diverge
      Hot_F + Cold_R = Colder
      Hot_R + Cold_F = Hotter
      Reverse POV:
      Hot_F + Cold_F = Diverge
      Hot_R + Cold_R = Equalise
      Hot_F + Cold_R = Hotter
      Hot_R + Cold_F = Colder
      Key:
      F = forwards entropy relative to earth

    • @ReaperPLUR
      @ReaperPLUR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think its also important to note that the film mentioned temporal radiation which we would knoe nothing about, so its entirely possible that everything does run in reverse

    • @TomtheMagician21
      @TomtheMagician21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Meta Man I forgot what the theoretical physicist even said now

  • @kalakritistudios
    @kalakritistudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even I thought he wouldn't get hypothermia but I thought that was because even the petrol and the person who set it on fire was inverted so it should just be normal fire? But with abnormal oxygen that won't be possible.

  • @tabithayee9475
    @tabithayee9475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the video 🤯🤯🤯

  • @Godflakes
    @Godflakes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this really helped

  • @Spydymanx
    @Spydymanx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation and I enjoyed Tenet. The so called science falls very short however. The situations the protagonist must have been in at some other timeline, cancel out what he is experiencing. So at the start he heads to a secret facility and is showed bullets that are caught instead of shot which must mean at a separate timeline outside of the movie we witness, the protagonist must have shot the bullet from the gun. The bullet then travels forward in time normally and at some point is sent through a turn-style and travels backwards in time until the point at which the movie shows the protagonist capture the bullet. But for that to work, why would the protagonist be in a secret facility being told about how shooting normal bullets and dropping them like normal will help prevent WW3? It feels a more like Bill & Ted when they simply decide to have bin land on someone's head and they'll do it later (that actually makes more logical sense the more I think about it)

    • @savioemc2
      @savioemc2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The piece of wall with the bullet you're talking about, could be a piece of some of the buildings from the final combat scenes; combat scenes that, in chronological order, are set before the facility scene.

  • @europa_bambaataa
    @europa_bambaataa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was wondering i gravity would act on inverted people & objects normally or if it would "act backwards". Like, they invert Debicki's character to give her medical attention, but would her wounds really heal normally if gravity were reversed? you would need inverted doctors (which I guess they have) and inverted medical equipment just to do something simple like suction blood from a wound. Am I missing something?

  • @dumpsky
    @dumpsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's simple: in a total block universe there is absolutely no free will, so the movie would be senseless.

  • @fuzailnadim
    @fuzailnadim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Our best defence is ignorance"

  • @Ali06Raza
    @Ali06Raza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info ❤️❤️❤️

  • @bsimmons00
    @bsimmons00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's my problem with the initial scene where the Protagonist "catches" the bullet in the gun. For that to work, wouldn't he also need the inverted casing, powder, primer, and everything else that goes into a cartridge? Was the magazine in the gun setup with the empty case when he picked up the gun? I think this is where Hollywood missing things because they understand guns from cartoons.

  • @Iampauljoseph
    @Iampauljoseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fan of this channel from india 😀

  • @gomguppie2
    @gomguppie2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually at 7:22 instead of heat particles hitting you. If the entropy is reversed or you are, there should be heat particles leaving your body and not hitting you. Im not sure but actually thought it was quite clever of Nolan and im not sure the information from the article is correct.

    • @mariakhan6090
      @mariakhan6090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think in the article the person meant about relative velocity, and perhaps overlooked the physiological aspect of heat in body. There's nothing like heat particles, heat is like currency - it is just either converted or transmitted, well anyway, giving heat = having/changing energy and if we really reverse entropy on all levels and everywhere the motion of particles inside body, or that make up the body, will cease, I don't know how exactly the "reverse aspect of hitting back" comes from but I think it's more of a macroscopic observation on a bigger level than the body. Things getting organized= reaching stability = low energy = low heat (heat as in the common definition)

  • @taufiqutomo
    @taufiqutomo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I know for sure: Tenet is not meant to be watched linearly.
    I think it's one of two possibilities: start from the opposite ends and meet in the middle, or start in the middle and split towards both ends.
    Your opinions welcome.

  • @Tabodread
    @Tabodread 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @m3mario
    @m3mario 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the light being reversed. Photons have a wired way of behaving on the quantum level. Check out the observation paradox in the double slit experiment. The quantum world does not make sense to the human logical brain. So we can say that we can’t be sure that light will flow backwards when time is reversed, until we test it.
    There. I saved the movie for you. You’re welcome.

  • @livesh684
    @livesh684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    brother woke me up with the fact of how light travels in reverse making you technincally blind

    • @wesleywallace4426
      @wesleywallace4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      “You are inverted the world isn’t.” The same way gravity is still the same at the laws of cause and effect is still balanced.

  • @ronaldp.vincent8226
    @ronaldp.vincent8226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A fridge doesn't actually invert entropy though, as it creates heat that is expelled elsewhere.

    • @amaklp
      @amaklp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I don't understand what this scientist was smoking.

  • @KOKATheProducer
    @KOKATheProducer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey can we get the link for the Los Angeles Times article? I couldn't find it on google. Thank you.

  • @TheYooToob2000
    @TheYooToob2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If one person is moving forward in time and another is moving backward wouldn’t they only be able to interact/experience each other for a split second as they passed? They wouldn’t be able to fight or even see each other because they are only in the same space at the same tine for a moment.

  • @lonelystranger7114
    @lonelystranger7114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time travel into the past (if possible) would definitely 'split' the universe. If it doesn't, then there is no real human agency involved (free will and human agency are not the same thing; free will is debatable, human agency is a given).
    Even if we go by Nolan's view that the movie's premise doesn't really involve time travel but resetting of a time frame after a period of time inversion, the notion that each human involved tries his/her best to avoid disturbing the timeline at every instance is not possible.

  • @AnilKumar-xl2te
    @AnilKumar-xl2te 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First meeting of Protagonist and Kat: Kat says that she saw a women jumping off a boat and since then Sator disappeared.
    Second Meeting of Protagonist and Kat: Protagonist asks Kat to introduce to Sator and she introduces him in dinner.
    How this is possible?

  • @alexreeder2372
    @alexreeder2372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job

  • @bigtrix24
    @bigtrix24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to win that collection I am a huge fan of Nolan’s 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

  • @AdwoaKaren
    @AdwoaKaren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve seen it four times. It gets better every time. Great movie.

  • @mohammadsahal8222
    @mohammadsahal8222 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really want that nolan collection

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time you make ice you invert entropy. But time doesn't run backwards, does it?
    EDIT: I wrote this before watching the whole video. I'm a Physicist guy! I smart!

  • @samdastyari632
    @samdastyari632 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant