The Jeep Gladiator is NOT a Wrangler With a Bed - Here's Why That is a Good and Bad Thing
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- Many thought that the Jeep Gladiator was just a Wrangler with a bed tacked on, but that's not the truth. In some ways it is, but is some key ways, this truck is unique.
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A lot of this is redundant to the TFLtruck reviews but Steve's presentation is top notch and makes it worth my time. I'm pretty much convinced I'll be waiting for the diesel.
That and hopefully, future option for a Hemi. Lol
Well, did you get the diesel yet?!
Brother, you do such an EXCELLENT job! I am glad you are part of the TFL team!
Like Roman said, "It's a 60k mid-sized truck...with limited payload and towing...made from Italian parts. What could go wrong?"
😂😂😂😂👍
It has the highest towing rating of all mid-size pickups. What Italian parts are you speaking of? The Gladiator is made in the US.
@@jamesaandf it's an FCA product. That means Italian engineering. Lots of soul, not lots of quality. I still want one.
@@jamesaandf pretty sure that goes to colorado/gmc with their diesel
fanscrub
footbalr074 the diesel Colorado is rated max 50lbs more than the Gladiator. Let’s not quibble as anybody would be a fool to tow that much on a regular basis with either truck. 7,700/7,650.
Best presenter,,, ever.. Thank you.
that camera system is actually a great idea, hopefully other manufacturers will follow
I can’t wait for the review of that boat, I’ve been seriously looking into that exact one. Perfect timing
I just went and looked at one, $61,000 CAD for a Rubicon model is just ridiculous. Especially when I watch them drive down the road hopping over road cracks and I smash my head on the roof bars just sitting in the passenger side. It's great for some just not for me. I personally would go towards a ZR2. For my fit. Have a great day.
Buy a Toyota Tacoma
@@Mark32500 I don't fit, they are a horrible seating position with a ridiculous layout.
@Carolus Magnusfound out that the zr2 is limited to 5000# towing but I would buy a Colorado and do a nice suspension kit.
Idk how they produced this without a brake controller ... Come on Man !
I get so tired of reviews by people who can’t get their facts straight, not a problem here. Great review, all you missed was the locks on the back seat.
Took my aunt into our local Chrysler dealer this week to talk about the corrosion starting on her garage kept 2012 Chrysler 200 Hardtop, with only 50000km. Was shocked to hear the service manager try to convince her that it is perfectly normal to expect the aluminum hood to start corroding after only 50000km. The rims looks 10x worse from corrosion than my 2005 Honda CRV with 244000 km. I will NEVER buy a Dodge / Chrysler / Jeep product ever again.
look, if you buy for FCA expecting quality you're a dumb ass. If you buy a wrangler, you do it for the freedom and feeling of driving a wrangler. Same for Gladiator. There aren't any convertible trucks, and the feeling of driving a fully loaded rubicon with a lift and some tires as a dd is worth it. I would never buy an FCA product other than Wrangler or Gladiator.
Your Aunt's cheap Canadian Chrysler 200 does not compare to a Jeep that's built in a different factory down south of the States.
Myron Gaines haha yeah ok....keep telling yourself that. Cheap Chrysler 200? Its a limited edition hardtop convertible. There are only 3 for sale in the entire country right now and it was worth more new than a Jeep Rubicon was new. And its still JUNK!!!
@@Packinheat1175
Look everyone. His auntie owns a convertible 200. 😒
Travelin' Ted
We towed 8,000 pounds from DETROIT to PANAMA CITY BEACH, 2,400 miles round trip. In a Rubicon, and it did very well. We will have a full video soon. It’s an awesome truck!
This is the only FCA product i'd consider. maybe a hellcat but outside of that i'm good. I have to give it to FCA, muscle cars and jeeps they do well. Where else are you going to find a convertible truck?
I thought the Rubicon had a lower tow rating than the Sport - the Sport requiring the Max Tow package that takes it up to the 7,650 lbs (IIRC) tow rating.
I have a sport Gladiator with a tow package 8-speed automatic transmission over size brakes oversized axles it gets the job done no problem Towing or stopping
I don't understand why so few people use a weight distributing hitch when towing. If you think the towing handling is good now, get a weight distributing hitch and you'll be amazed.
Very few Weight distribution hitches are compatible with boat trailer surge brakes. Also, the boats are not catching wind like an rv.
Nice job Big Steve.....
As good as the other guys are, this one i frankly better than most presenters on YT. Chatty and informative as hell. Good production all around too!
in all the review they only use rubicon why the sport or the outland cant tow???? come on people no every one have 60 k or 70 k for a fully loaded rubicon.
The Sport S with the max tow package can tow the advertised max of 7650 with the max advertised payload, and that particular version with that package and nothing else can be had for under $40,000
Sultann I would argue that they preview the Rubicon bc that’s what’s Jeep sends them plus for some reason they are trying to push this as an “off road” vehicle when clearly it’s more of an on road vehicle that has some off road features for this to be a real off road contender they will have to produce a two door and be ok with small sell numbers
I think I do want to wait on the diesel model. I want one of these as an overlanding vehicle and having the range and low end torque appeals to me, especially since I'm going to end up putting extra weight on the truck with bigger tires, bumpers, gear, etc.... I don't think I'll be towing that much but it'll be nice to have the power and the extra stability to do so easily. Really impressed with what they did with this truck. The breakover is a downside but it can do stuff a Wrangler can't
They literaly dive the same though, like a cement truck
Per your very first question, the hood and grill are the things that show me it's a Gladiator - are there any other differences? Also, I haven't looked, but isn't that hood at least very very similar to the Hardrock edition of the Wrangler Rubicon?
Love the trail cam! The gladiator is growing on me. Doesn't have high enough tow rating for me though. Need 11,000 lbs for my toys.
Thanks Bro...great video..
Best presenter that TFL has ever had.
Want a truck, buy a truck, want something pretty good for off road, the gladiator does well. Running a 2022 JLUD myself.
Breakover angle? Those must be some serious speed bumps at the mall.
Any chance you can compare the towing experience with this vs a grand Cherokee? Specifically stability
Nice vid! Thanks for the Toledo shoutout
Great job with information. Lets be clear one should never tow more than 80% of max trailer tow.
Most people also max out their GVW before reaching the tow rating and don't even know it. Its not hard to exceed GVW on mid size and 1500 trucks and SUV's. How many people have you seen in a 1500 truck with an quad or 2 dirt bikes in the back, 2 adults 2 kids in the cab and a 6000lb trailer? Guaranteed they are over the GVW of the truck.
It’s splitting hairs to say it is or isn’t a Wrangler with a bed. At the end of the day it is a Wrangler with a bed. Of course there are some frame and suspension differences in the rear. It’s mostly a Wrangler JL that hooked up with a Ram 1500 and has some of daddy’s features out back 😜
I love my Mojave! Rides like it's on a cloud. Still pulls 6,000 pounds. And gets so many compliments, on and off the road!
You tow with it yet ?
@@Drohead20 Yes, I have. I pull our 28' camper with it. Does great
This review is what TFL Off Road is all a boat.
Love all of TFL videos, but why do you guys keep making the same videos over and over again? All of this information has been presented, by TFL no less, countless times.
I know this will sound stupid, but he is way better so even tho it has already been covered we all know we will watch him again for a better review. And he is canadian, our personal tastes and usage can differ. No hating just different.
Why these don’t come with the hemi
Because then it might actually be a cool “truck”
Yam-A-Ha lol I always think cultural differences on spoken language is funny and somewhat interesting.
Accents and regional dialects have always interested me! I would love to know why we Canadians use Yam-a-ha and Maz-da rather than the American pronunciation of Yah-ma-ha and Mahz-da.
I actually use both pronunciations so often that I find myself bouncing between the two without even noticing sometimes.
The bad - couldn’t imagine towing 7k lbs in this thing in any kind of stressful environment like hilly or mountainous areas.
The good - this presenter !
"Then you crank up the TH-cam copyright free music." Hahahaha
I like them so much, make me smile when I see one tooling down the road! Maybe only old VW Bugs make me this happy. Question how much over max towing weight could you tow and not damage your truck, 7100, 7200, 7350?
typical Mopar max towing is very optimistic... safe max tow would be more like 6500. if you want to tow 7500 safely just rent an F150
Why would I need a moly system on the back seat...I don't think i'm going on patrol anytime soon. Id rather they make a small fold down table or something
There's a molle system in that truck?
This is a wannabe's wet dream
How do you like it vs the Tacoma?
What exhaust was on there because it sounded louder than stock
These new wranglers tow great I think. Haven’t driven a gladiator though.
285 hp
260 tq
Good lord!! I wouldn’t drive that shit if it was given to me for free!
2019 ford raptor supercrew baby FTW
I'm from the 419! Great area to be.
Lol same background music sxsblog used for Nick's custom singing
Great video thank you!
What kind of tail lights does that gladiator have?
why is it always a yahama jet boat? so many press events use this for vehicles that tow in the 5000 lbs range.
Because Yamaha makes THE most bad azz motors ever.
Because it’s an affordable do it all runabout.
Excellent video as always! I wish there was an option to get the "Offroad Pages" features into my JKU/Aftermarket Android auto and a bluetooth OBDII reader.. Im assuming that is how its reading all the internal sensors and gauges. Maybe someday :) If anyone knows any 3rd party or DIY options let me know!
what happened to the Jeep Comanche ?
I don't understand how the addition of a bed increases the towing capacity so much?
The back door is such an odd shape why couldn’t they make it more square without the cutout for the nonexistent fender that would be there if it was a wrangler
I think they use the same doors to save money.
dchawk81 they definitely do its kinda ridiculous though considering how over priced they are
Agreed.
The flip side being if the Gladiator turned out to be a non-seller, most of its components are usable on the Wrangler line. So they'd have minimal waste.
If I remember correctly, they said the chassis is almost entirely RAM 1500 so they can just send that stuff over to that line.
dchawk81 well in that case thats kinda awesome that they thought ahead like that. Im not sure if its gonna sell well. Ive only seen 4 on the road so far. At its price point I think a tacoma would be a better option
Seems that v6 struggles a bit - sure seems to roar rather than grunt.
Mike Llewellyn with only 6 cylinders roaring ain’t an option.
Mike Llewellyn the pentastar v6 in my van feel very powerful, for a truck application, it really is not an exciting experience.
Dan Pitre it’s an underwhelming experience, however it has a lot of power, just boring.
It's a Ramgler half ram half wrangler
The tailgate is a aluminum. Is that why it seems flimsy?
Magnesium, actually. I think that's what Jeep told us. They also said it'll hold 1,800 lbs. evenly distributed, so it's definitely not flimsy.
This vehicle, imo, is somewhat of a strange, not very good at it's jobs, vehicle, before you start hating let me explain, first off, I'm going to be using the 2009 hummer h3t as a comparison, since this is what the h3t would of been competing with if the H3t was still around, for starters I'm going to compare base to base models, then top of line to top of line. So the first thing, that would make the gladiator better than the H3t On road would be the engine/trans combo, 285 horsepower and 260 ib-ft mated to a 6spd Manuel or an 8 spd auto is deffinenetly better than 242 horsepower and 242 ib-ft mated to a 5 spd Manuel or 4 spd auto for on road driving, however that's kinda where the base gladiator kinda stops being better. For starters, the base H3t comes with a 4.56 gear ratio vs a 3.73, also, the base gladiator requires you to eather A, buy a lift kit, or B, trim the fenders, to fit anything larger than a 33 inch tire, the H3t only requires you to turn a 2 bolts to fit larger tires (and if ride quality is importan, but don't want to swap to off road shocks, just install a couple prices of blastic between the top of the shock and the mounting point), also, look at the back of both vehicles, the tow hitch of the gladiator is mounted under the bumper, reducing ground clearance, the H3t had it's hitch inside the bumper, right where the license plate would be on the gladiator, also, the bed is mounted much higher than the gladiators bed, which improves the departure angle, and another thing, the adventure package could be purchased on a base H3t, you didnt have to get all the fancy electronics, sun roof, appearance package ect if you just wanted a 4.09:1 low range and front and rear lockers, with the gladiator you have to get an entirely different trim package for improved off road capabilities, another thing, the H3t had an ifs setup, so it is overall superior off road due to its low center of gravity and wide stance mixed with its superior front diff clearance. As for top of the line models, the H3t would be equipped with a V8 engine making 300 horsepower and 325 ib-ft of torque, and 4.10 gear ratio, getting this package also gave you front and rear lockers and the 4.09:1 low range, bassicly it was a rubicon pkg, that also gave you a V8, only it would be the other way around, another not as know thing about the h3/h3t is that it's doors are, in fact, removable, also, something I forgot to mention is that the H3t has more belly clearance than the gladiator. I'm not saying that the gladiator is a bad vehicle, but a TEN YEAR OLD truck keeps up with it, and beats it in some cases, I just feel that the gladiator should have at least been eye to eye, so to speak on all points. if the h3t was still around, even if it had been updated very little vs the 2009, it would be an overall superior vehicle, the only thing that would make the gladiator better than an h3t, top of line vs top of line, is going to be that diesel engine, but all of this is just my opinion, so please don't cuss me out like an ass hole.
@guy proulx wow, so much proof, and such a positive comment, you really took your time on this one.
@guy proulx coming from somebody who has most likely never owned eather of them, saying they are junk without much proof is kinda cheesy, and last I checked, nobody really, bottom feeds anymore, the only automobile company I can think of that might even come remotely close is Nissan.
U literally can run 35s on new wranglers stock with 0 lift or mods they come with 33s lol. Wtf u talking about.
@@Michael_ryan91 notice how I said BASE gladiators.
@guy proulx why should anyone believe you? It's obvious you are a hater, I've seen you on 4 or 5 TH-cam channels doing NOTHING but hating on stuff, like wth? Is your life do shitty that you have to try and make everyone else's shitty? it's obvious you have no proof to back up your statements, and at this point just wasting my, and your, time.
I wish they’d offer the hemi in these
Prefer the black plastic and roof on the ruby
They are cool looking. But if you look at the competition (Toyota) they are overpriced. Almost the same power as the segment leader but higher tow rating. But if you watch the tow test the Gladiator struggled to tow at max weight. The segment leader had no problem towing at max load. I almost bought one.
Thanks for the video, people that complain, are just hating lol.
Got to hate it when a reviewer contradicts themselves. Nothing more than click bait. Yes. This "truck" looks like a wrangler with a bed on it. In many ways, as it is admitted by the reviewer it is....... Until Jeep produces full size truck like the quadratrac.... they can keep this piece...
@ 10:16 you guys are listening to Tony Danza music up there in Canada? this is just like Germany loving David Hasslehoff ... makes no sense
Well they tried. They just can't expect very many people to buy a 57K midsize truck with crappy HP and torque. Just not a practical truck or towing machine.
I haven’t driven the Gladiator but the new Wrangler has SUPER SMOOTH suspension and acceleration. I was incredibly surprised.
Seriously 70 grand to tow 7000 pounds? Used ones are already showing up because they can’t tow much, they can’t haul much and they are too long to off road
Tow power assessments in southern Ontario? That's kind of useless. Couldn't find anywhere flatter?
This is probably ok for short distant towing not to heavy loads. I see a few of these jeep Trucks on the road. Meh. I'd take a two door day in day out.
Will be a Perfect capability for a mid size truck for towing and off road with the availability of the diesel. Waiting patiently
Who on earth would conduct a video with HALF the factory limits, like obviously it’s gonna do it just fine. Yeah, it’s okay for part of the it, but let’s see it’s LIMITS!
The bulk of people towing are less than 5k. This is an excellent test of what MOST people tow. And frankly with the 6cyl I think that is about all you would want to do anyway. For bigger loads you need a larger truck IMHO.
Mike Llewellyn nope, we went 1K over the limits NO PROBLEM to each their own
@@GladiatorGang Again - it is about what most tow - 5k is really about it for most folks. I didn't say everyone. So yes to each their own.
Mike Llewellyn very true, but isn’t it’s obvious it’ll do that?
Saw a gladiator being towed out in copper harbor over the weekend. Broken front axle. Not even that hard of the trail. Jeeps are POS
Does nothing have surge brakes anymore lol
Kirby Goodwin I know right 😂
Surge breaks are dead ! With all trailers with a gw over 3000 lbs require breaks in the USA , electric breaks are cheaper for manufactures and less prone to rust causing failures !!
wayne -O a large percentage of boat trailers still use surge brakes
Dude you rock
Has about the towing capacity of an old used Chevy nova.
All you millenials did not do any research just went out and bought a jeep. Little do you know jeep sold jeep in 2005. Since the liberty it has been made by fiat. So this is a fiat wrangler.
vero
What about Maserati? Who cares who owns the brand. since 2005, jeeps have gotten better.
Tow itself right off a cliff
has nothing in common with jeep gladiator's of the past other then name plate
87fubar If we wanted obvious statements, like that, we would request a video of Roman drunk and asked him his opinion of the Suzuki Samurai.
the m715 concept would have been a better gladiator full size truck what's next a 4dr scrambler that doesn't just look like a longer wrangler or a jeepster built on a renegade chassis
Buy a real truck if you want to tow.
Tiny and not fast with a boat unlike a v8 sport trac or like that's not a big boat it only is a 3000 pound trailer
Fan boys can hate if they want, ugliest truck on the market.
The 2020 silverado??
Don’t buy one
So ..fiat renualt makes them now ..it is so far from a real jeep it is closer to a fiat 500. The engine will grenade itself at 40k..mark my words . It will be in shop more than you will have it in your driveway..good job buying a lemon.
Shut up.
I'm sure it won't last like the Jeeps made until the end of the 90's.
While concern about Fiat is justified, that V-6 in the Gladiator has been VERY time-tested in many of FC's vehicles (over a million produced) and has performed and lasted quite well.
My 3.6 in my Jeep runs like a boss. Change the oil and don’t drive it like a douche canoe and it will be fine for a very long time.
FCA isnt part of Renualt Nissan is with Renualt.
60+k for a gladiator nah i can tow just fine with my wrangler Rubicon jk
It tows a 20ft pontoon boat just fine
Careful with that drivetrain