So many people commented it wasn't working. However I didn't explain all the steps trying to make the last video very short. This time I went step by step with them on screen and explain exactly what you need and need to do. I hope this one will answer any issues
I dont grind it really. What I do is I just wait a short bit for prices to start stabilizing a bit. Then I go buy a bunch of wood and fur from battania and then take it down go askar. I sell the wood and fur along the way. I buy mules and horses that should be enough go get 25 horses and 12 mules for full speed bonus for my early party. Now you can buy 100 of something that's a really good deal and then sell it along the way to wherever you're going next. Then I buy a bunch of something there and sell it and any leftover other stuff along the way. You can find good deals just by hovering over the prices before you even get any trading skill levels. It takes almost no effort to get to the point the colors are right there in your face in a town then you just fill up your inventory 3/4 of the way and everytime you go in a city you sell green on the right side and buy green on the left side. You'll always be profitable and thus always getting xp and more gold. Just do this in addition to whatever you're doing. It's free money and free xp and you were already going there. Don't grind. Optimize
Damn you and Strat Gaming are the badass Players of this Game, explaining everything about the game, so that even i can understand what to do. Thank you for this.
Can confirm that this still works in v1.1.6 by the way. Greatly appreciate the concise guide; much as I love roaming the lands in search of trade rumors, I'd much rather be working on my Smithing than toiling away with Trade. xD
On the last step, you can also put all the materials on the town market, grab back the steel, grab back the materials, and with that you will pay only half a price for the steel :)
Worked perfectly, thanks for the easy to follow explanation! I got 247 points in trade the first time, which put my trade well over 300. Kept doing it for a while longer as it also gives straight XP for character level, which was a nice bonus.
I am so grateful for finding this video. It has finally given me an actual direction of how to get the trade skill up quickly. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! ☺️🙏🏻💝
I failed to spec into trade to begin with, so I'm having to do this as catch-up. With 4 Social and starting at 25 trade, an afternoon of grinding like this got me to 5 SOC and 256 skill. So even starting badly, it's an incredibly effective method. I'm afraid this might be the single fastest way to level up at all, which is terrifying since it takes a very long time still to get actual levels, and four times worse to get attribute points, which is needed for the work to reach its proper rewards.
@@Flesson19 I just discovered throwing knives and managed to increase my metal counts significantly. I was about a thousand wrought 2k iron and 500 steel when I wrote that. I'm sitting around 5k wrought at least, steel isn't much better though. No matter should still make it way faster.
You can also buy cheap from town with fake trade. When you going to buy back your steel than first place on sell same items as caravan deal and price of steel will be inflated. Than move inflated steel first to your inventory and than move back rest items and confirm transaction. The buy price will stay inflated and you gain profit and XP. In early game when I started I got spawn in city with 4coin per hardwood of 1000 stock and smith companion in tavern (had to pay for charcoal maker perk in arena but still can got free money from town pocket.
@@Flesson19 And when you buy back over 10.000 from city there is perk from Trade to boost relations with Merchants unlocking recruitment slots and chance that will support you in future with 0.1 influence per day. So you can improve notables relations manualy instead of doing quests or running caravan with Perk for random chance. (Hope that they will fix all glitches in future and rebalance crafting. Regular orders are up to 100.000 and crafted items with 1 steel polearm with throwing perk worth 10.000+ by 160dificulty) only legendary items should get high profit rewards over 10.000. Example for crafted item with 1pcs of steel spend equal weapon tire 4. Cracked 1000, Bent 1500, regular 2000, balanced 3000, MasterCraft 5000 legendary 10.000. Or is needed to change the smelting rewards from dagger and throwing knifes under 500 to get only 1 peace of material. Rusty = nothing. Cracked = crude iron. Bent/Regular= wrought iron. Balanced = iron. MasterCraft = steel. Legendary = fine steel and to fallow item tire. Tire 1 made with crude iron. Tire 2 wrough iron. Tire 3 iron. Tire 4 steel. Tire 5 fine steel. Tire 6 thamasken steel. And limit stockpile of this items. 1pcs with Smithy daily and stockpile limit and weapon tire related to prosperity town. And in town higher rank unit will spawn only when tire weapon is available and it should consume 1 weapon from town stock when recruited. 4 tire troop will consume 4 tire weapon and for archers workshops to recruit depends on town prosperity. Makes the town more strategic build focus to run 2smithy and 1 workshop as recruit factory. If there is no workshop or Smith in town the AI will still be able to recruit higher tire units to prevent sabotage by player. Lord from clan lvl5 can recruit tire 5 units because he can also be a Smith or have a loot from battle.
Very nice, working on PC as of today. Sadly didn't spec far enough into trade to make it as beneficial, but I'm glad there's a better way to level trade than hoping fish will make a 1k profit halfway across the map. I wish they really worked on and balanced the skills, making everything more achievable.
I typically don't like to use exploits in games, but the "legitimate" grind for 300 trade is so obscenely time consuming that I literally wouldn't be able to do anything else. My character would probably die of old age before I hit 300 if there were no exploit. Thank you for making this
@@chibidakis1 right the longer you spend getting g materials the quicker the trade part is. Also an FYI..u can keep trading after 300 and still get character xp for levels even when trade is red hard capped
Oh my god... I just spent like five in game years grinding trace and NOW I realized I didn't put any points into social to raise my learning rate... 🤦 I was literally on 0.25!!!
I got a vid that explains rate/limit and hard cap on my quick guides channel. People sometimes also confuse limit and rate. If your not 100% sure check it out or don't hesitate to ask any questions you might have th-cam.com/video/7foXpW0naPE/w-d-xo.html
if the price works out, thats what the town does. The caravan price are associated with the town. When you sell the steel the price of the caravan lowers. your using the town to adjust the caravan prices which is why it works. I know it can be complicated and you can sell to other towns but you can manipulate it so much easier with a single town and caravan
O.K. So the caravan and the city are connected in that moment. BUT! Why does the price not drop back to my original selling price, when I sell high numbers to one city or caravan? Why the separation? Selling and buying metals with the caravan and trading steel with the city! Why?
if you get a lot of materials you can alos use this to grind levels after hitting the skill cap with the new xp system, cost me about 10k to go from lvl 30 to 31 with almost 600 steel
yes, I wanted to get it simple, but your 100% right since they are the same category, just like horses, war horses and pack animals. My friend Hero is the one who figured this out. th-cam.com/video/c0o2YVNRq0E/w-d-xo.html&
Wish I could get even close. Playing and can't make money to do anything, no matter how I try to find best workshops location, trade, constantly loosing money.
You can do it so tou lose nothing, it all depends on how fast you want to be done and I tried to keep the guide super simple but there are more ways to do it
question: why is steel left out specifically for the town? why steel and not any other metal? and which metal is the main one that accelerates the stat gain? is it worth refining up?
they all work together and tied together. The only reason I mention steel was to keep it simple, you can use any metal to lower the price, something like 500-1k wrought iron to town might do it. You can couple this together with wood and charcoal also
if you dont mind it slowing you down, as you progress steward is great. I got a vide on the guides channel I havent moved yet showing how much xp it gives
There is an option to buy out everything they are carrying. Both the caravan and the trader in town. You don't have to do it just for the metal, right? It will still work regardless if what you do this with.
8:06 I have 5 social and 5 focus points and I still got to 303 , can.t replicate the exploit tho ( obviously ) I had twice the metals you did so that might have something to do with it
@@blitzkrieg2928 it's the price in town that does it, when no metal in town you sell to caravan so it's expensive, then sell metal in town to drive price down to about 15, then buy metal back from caravan cheap
I do agree as I think it is a mechanic, its like buying all products at a store and selling in the world for a mark up as the supply is lower vs demand. Kind of how video cards were. However most get on me for saying that so I just called it that. But it's mechanic thats been it he game since day 1 of early access to I 1000% agree with you
Hes talking to me like he just caught me eating elmer's glue again for the eighth time, and he needs to explain to me again why its wrong. Its hilarious, and im here for it. 🤣🤣
yeah and so easy for them to stop. It could be done with a mechanic in the game, they just wont do it and been in since the start 3 years ago. so honestly is it an exploit?
I have done it and getting to the mid 30's isnt too bad but 40 was a pain. You need thousands of each metal to get great xp but not using many, yes you can power level decently since you gain character xp even if trade is hard capped
@@ShamTakeProfit now there is a way to do it. It would require thousands if not ten of thousands of materials to do it. My friend Hero I think shows it off, let me know ifu want to se it
@Flesson19 yeah i did the exploit sold my steel to the city tried selling my metal to the caravan but he just kept buying at extremely cheap prices and selling to me at extremely high prices
@@NotThatGuyDoes your doing the opposite, with no metal in town then sell all but steel to caravan. go into town and sell steel to drive price down, then buy from caravan at cheap price. Go back into town and buy your steel, now the price is high again to sell to caravan
@@NotThatGuyDoes sell all but steel to caravan, then sell steel to town, but all your metal from caravan, the last buy steel back from town, rinse and repeat
U do lose a little in the full process but depending on how many materials you use, you can get 300 in 5-60 minutes. I just tested it earlier this week. This way you do lose money each transaction but get 300 very fast
Hey Flesson ive taken a break from bannerlord as I've had a lot of problems with the recent patch such as the smithing shrinkage bug and sieges seem to have gotten worse. Seems pretty quiet from the devs is there any word on a major patch upcoming? Thanks
no because trade gives 50 cap per focus point and attribute 14 per point -10,if you only had 5 trade and 5 social then your cap would be 260, 6 social, 274, 7 social 288
Hey Flesson just out of curiosity would owning multiple smiths in Sanala manipulate the demand and thus the price at all? Also can confirm as a console player that I had tried this exploit a few patches ago and it did indeed bug out after one attempt, it simply just refused to acknowledge the trade after which I gave up messing with it, so good to know save & reload fixes it I'll give it another go now that I know that, I appreciate the info bro.
@@Flesson19 Ah I see so doing it midway through my current campaign would not yield the same results you got or at the very least it would have diminished returns, is that correct or am I totally off base here?
@@HypnoticChronic1 you want to find a spot where the prices are high for metals. Anyplace will work as you when you sell the steel it drives the price down, but the more expensive its worth the more xp youll get each time. Sometimes you just need to visit a few shops and see what they are paying for lets say 1 fine steel and see who is paying most and that will be the town to do it in
@@Flesson19 That makes sense, I ironically still ended up Sanala anyways because of the price. Thanks again for taking the time to answer me and if I could pick your brain on one more topic despite it being unrelated to trade I'd appreciate, as I cannot find any consistent and or credible source elsewhere. I'm currently in vassalage to the Southern Empire (both other imperial factions have lost all their holdings which we control) however, our AI keeps declaring war back to back with barely anytime to breath in between, thus we get engaged in a war then 2 other factions (typically Vlandia and Aserai) jump in and we end up having to fight a 3 front war across nearly the whole breath of the map. All of my holdings are on the western side of the map (former Western/Northern empire starting areas) so I am right in the center of the crosshairs and am unable to cover the whole breath of the area alone (friendly AI are not exactly helpful/useful), so my question to you is (if you can help) is either how do I stop my faction from continuously declaring war nonstop and or how do I prevent a war from turning into a multi front war with multiple factions? I would really appreciate any insight and or tips you can give, as I am still pretty wet behind the ears when it comes to comprehending the totality of this game.
@@HypnoticChronic1 if you have a lot of vassals there is nothing you can do. The key earlier in the game is to have a few vassals or even companion clans. With less than 10 and the policy reducing your cost to override them you can dictate wars and peace. I have 100% reduced escape chance for prisoners, so I hold them all hostage so when or if I wat to peace out, they pay me. It's the price you pay, more vassals they decide what to do, less vassals and not as powerful but you can decide. For me, until I have about 10 holdings I dont go crazy getting vassals so I control the action.
Do yourself a favor. Bring that skill point to 9 not 8. Cuz if you don't and you don't have enough metal (what he suggests is no longer enough) it's gonna get VERY grindy. This braught me about half way, the next fourth was decent, but by about 280 it was only increasing 4-5 levels and by 290 that dropped to 2 levels and at 295 it was half a level to a level. I got lucky and levels at 298 and with that skill to 9 it finished it off...
yeah for times sake its how much you got is equal to time. Like my first run ever I did in 9 days, I has so little metal it took me around an hour to get 300 but with alot of it very quick
@Flesson19 so I'm trying to understand the mechanic at play here. Is the caravan price getting pinned to the price in the city like the anchored settlement prices do?
@@kalan4787 right, the price of the caravans goods are determined by the town they are close to. Lowering the price of something in town will lower the price of the caravan for that good if it's near that town
kind of a shame that exploiting like this is really the only way to get the 300 perk. I spend alot of time leveling trade with every legit strat i could think of, but only got to 170
Even though they dont have a lot of money, you get XP for the total amount of the sale regardless if they have the money to pay for it. The more metal, the less you trades you gotta do
So many people commented it wasn't working. However I didn't explain all the steps trying to make the last video very short. This time I went step by step with them on screen and explain exactly what you need and need to do. I hope this one will answer any issues
Haha, Flesson19 the warlord of exploits :)
@@Diarmuhnd I can't take credit for this one though.
Does this work on console ?
@ZtoA thank u so much I was watching it on my break and was not sure if it was for the version
You say 1.02 at the end but thetitleis1.13
Trade is one of the skills that offer me no enjoyment in grinding, I'm so happy you found this thank you so much for another great tutorial!
Especially since they broke selling horses.
I dont grind it really. What I do is I just wait a short bit for prices to start stabilizing a bit. Then I go buy a bunch of wood and fur from battania and then take it down go askar. I sell the wood and fur along the way. I buy mules and horses that should be enough go get 25 horses and 12 mules for full speed bonus for my early party. Now you can buy 100 of something that's a really good deal and then sell it along the way to wherever you're going next. Then I buy a bunch of something there and sell it and any leftover other stuff along the way. You can find good deals just by hovering over the prices before you even get any trading skill levels.
It takes almost no effort to get to the point the colors are right there in your face in a town then you just fill up your inventory 3/4 of the way and everytime you go in a city you sell green on the right side and buy green on the left side. You'll always be profitable and thus always getting xp and more gold. Just do this in addition to whatever you're doing.
It's free money and free xp and you were already going there.
Don't grind. Optimize
WORKS 100% in 1.2.8 release, thank you, AMAZING!
You're very welcome
This still works (I think they might have made it less effective but still) Oct 21st 2024
Damn you and Strat Gaming are the badass Players of this Game, explaining everything about the game, so that even i can understand what to do. Thank you for this.
thank you so much for the kind words
Thanks for uploading this flesson, too many content creators don't go as in depth as this or none that ive seen anyway.
thanks, I messed up the first one by not giving enough detail causing confusion in some parts
Can confirm that this still works in v1.1.6 by the way.
Greatly appreciate the concise guide; much as I love roaming the lands in search of trade rumors, I'd much rather be working on my Smithing than toiling away with Trade. xD
thank you
Just want to say thank you 🙏, this is very hard to find actual helpful information, very nicely explained easy clear and working, thanks again!
Thank you so much for the kind words and support
On the last step, you can also put all the materials on the town market, grab back the steel, grab back the materials, and with that you will pay only half a price for the steel :)
Worked perfectly, thanks for the easy to follow explanation! I got 247 points in trade the first time, which put my trade well over 300. Kept doing it for a while longer as it also gives straight XP for character level, which was a nice bonus.
awesome, thank you so much for the kind words and support
Just logged in to say that this one still works for the latest beta version 1.2.2~
My man! Thanks, dude!
This still work even on console! Thank you for your hard work! 👍
Thanks man this was an easy way to getting that 125 perk for renown, before i had to grind and hope that i can actually turn a profit
yeah this isn't the best way for money, but if you got money early its the fastest
Excellent finally it works i also power levelled from 21 to 25. This is a game changer never had sprig of gold before. Thanks a million.
I am so grateful for finding this video. It has finally given me an actual direction of how to get the trade skill up quickly. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! ☺️🙏🏻💝
You're very welcome
Can confirm this works as of 14th of August, 2024.
v1.2.8 works aswell, love you bro
I failed to spec into trade to begin with, so I'm having to do this as catch-up. With 4 Social and starting at 25 trade, an afternoon of grinding like this got me to 5 SOC and 256 skill.
So even starting badly, it's an incredibly effective method. I'm afraid this might be the single fastest way to level up at all, which is terrifying since it takes a very long time still to get actual levels, and four times worse to get attribute points, which is needed for the work to reach its proper rewards.
Exactly true and this has been in the game since early access started
@@Flesson19 I just discovered throwing knives and managed to increase my metal counts significantly.
I was about a thousand wrought 2k iron and 500 steel when I wrote that. I'm sitting around 5k wrought at least, steel isn't much better though.
No matter should still make it way faster.
@@SerLagsalot tribesmen throwing daggers I think your talking about, little more expensive than pugios nit the extra iron is awesome
@@Flesson19 Pugios have disappeared from the world for some reason... Did multiple circuits of the Imperial cities over 200 days and found 6 of them.
@@SerLagsalot not sure, maybe they lowered the production rate of them. I know I saw them in 1.2. I know daggers are more plentiful
You can also buy cheap from town with fake trade. When you going to buy back your steel than first place on sell same items as caravan deal and price of steel will be inflated. Than move inflated steel first to your inventory and than move back rest items and confirm transaction. The buy price will stay inflated and you gain profit and XP. In early game when I started I got spawn in city with 4coin per hardwood of 1000 stock and smith companion in tavern (had to pay for charcoal maker perk in arena but still can got free money from town pocket.
yes awesome strategy
@@Flesson19 And when you buy back over 10.000 from city there is perk from Trade to boost relations with Merchants unlocking recruitment slots and chance that will support you in future with 0.1 influence per day. So you can improve notables relations manualy instead of doing quests or running caravan with Perk for random chance. (Hope that they will fix all glitches in future and rebalance crafting. Regular orders are up to 100.000 and crafted items with 1 steel polearm with throwing perk worth 10.000+ by 160dificulty) only legendary items should get high profit rewards over 10.000. Example for crafted item with 1pcs of steel spend equal weapon tire 4. Cracked 1000, Bent 1500, regular 2000, balanced 3000, MasterCraft 5000 legendary 10.000. Or is needed to change the smelting rewards from dagger and throwing knifes under 500 to get only 1 peace of material. Rusty = nothing. Cracked = crude iron. Bent/Regular= wrought iron. Balanced = iron. MasterCraft = steel. Legendary = fine steel and to fallow item tire. Tire 1 made with crude iron. Tire 2 wrough iron. Tire 3 iron. Tire 4 steel. Tire 5 fine steel. Tire 6 thamasken steel. And limit stockpile of this items. 1pcs with Smithy daily and stockpile limit and weapon tire related to prosperity town. And in town higher rank unit will spawn only when tire weapon is available and it should consume 1 weapon from town stock when recruited. 4 tire troop will consume 4 tire weapon and for archers workshops to recruit depends on town prosperity. Makes the town more strategic build focus to run 2smithy and 1 workshop as recruit factory. If there is no workshop or Smith in town the AI will still be able to recruit higher tire units to prevent sabotage by player. Lord from clan lvl5 can recruit tire 5 units because he can also be a Smith or have a loot from battle.
Very nice, working on PC as of today. Sadly didn't spec far enough into trade to make it as beneficial, but I'm glad there's a better way to level trade than hoping fish will make a 1k profit halfway across the map. I wish they really worked on and balanced the skills, making everything more achievable.
Works perfectly at Feb 2024, great job sir 👍
thank you for checking
Works perfectly as of April 20, 2024 . Thanks!
Thank you for watching
If someone wonders if that is still working - yes, it is
I don't expect they ever will fix it even though they have a mechanic in the game that can do it
I typically don't like to use exploits in games, but the "legitimate" grind for 300 trade is so obscenely time consuming that I literally wouldn't be able to do anything else. My character would probably die of old age before I hit 300 if there were no exploit. Thank you for making this
💯
Very clear, thanks, your vids are always good
Thank you
I can confirm it still works on console, but as you said reloading my game was necessary
Amazing video, very easy to follow and massively takes the pain out of leveling trade, good man 😊
thank you
Working on 1.2.8?
still working. thanks dude!
Appreciate the console clarification 👌🏻
Thanks, cant remember who told me about it
Thank god for this clip! Good work my guy
Appreciate it
Still work (14.07.2023), also this is probably best way to grind level (i get 5 level (29-34) in something around 10 minutes)
Still works great with the 1.2 beta patch!
It still works on the PS5! Got to level 300 in probably 10 minutes
Awesome
@Flesson19 with 8 attributes and 5 skills in trade, like you said! But I had over a 1000 in both steel and fine steel 😅
@@chibidakis1 right the longer you spend getting g materials the quicker the trade part is. Also an FYI..u can keep trading after 300 and still get character xp for levels even when trade is red hard capped
This is better than my wood and charcoal trick. I got to level 250 in 100 game days. Could probs do it quicker, I like this my friend
Awesome, I did it in 8 days but much harder now, 100 or less is great. Have fun
Nice, worked pretty great
still works. nutty.
Still works even in consoles. Thank you man 👍👍
thank you for the support and watching
Heya Flesson - thanks for posting this! 🙂
Thank you for the support
Oh my god... I just spent like five in game years grinding trace and NOW I realized I didn't put any points into social to raise my learning rate... 🤦 I was literally on 0.25!!!
I got a vid that explains rate/limit and hard cap on my quick guides channel. People sometimes also confuse limit and rate. If your not 100% sure check it out or don't hesitate to ask any questions you might have th-cam.com/video/7foXpW0naPE/w-d-xo.html
works in 1.2.9, farewell trading :)
Very helpful, thank you! :D
Thank you for watching
that was brilliant thank you
Thank you for watching
Great tutorial, thank you!
Thank you for watching
I think this is the best trade exploit video you can find on youtube. So specific;;;;
thanks, I messed the first one up. I hope this explains everything perfectly
Thank you, it works on 1.2.8 too
You're Welcome
I get addicted to finding good sales once I start a trader game
I love trading
Why is the combination of city and caravan important?
Can I not sell a lot of steel to the city, buy it back and then sell it to one or many cities?
if the price works out, thats what the town does. The caravan price are associated with the town. When you sell the steel the price of the caravan lowers. your using the town to adjust the caravan prices which is why it works. I know it can be complicated and you can sell to other towns but you can manipulate it so much easier with a single town and caravan
O.K. So the caravan and the city are connected in that moment. BUT! Why does the price not drop back to my original selling price, when I sell high numbers to one city or caravan?
Why the separation? Selling and buying metals with the caravan and trading steel with the city! Why?
if you get a lot of materials you can alos use this to grind levels after hitting the skill cap with the new xp system, cost me about 10k to go from lvl 30 to 31 with almost 600 steel
I tried to see how high I could get once but stopped at 42, got so bored doing this over and over
Is this information still relevant? Just started playing the game and it seems many mechanics are still changing.
Cant we do it like charcoal wood? just inside the city?
yes, I wanted to get it simple, but your 100% right since they are the same category, just like horses, war horses and pack animals. My friend Hero is the one who figured this out. th-cam.com/video/c0o2YVNRq0E/w-d-xo.html&
Wish I could get even close. Playing and can't make money to do anything, no matter how I try to find best workshops location, trade, constantly loosing money.
works on xbox and i got it to where i only lose less then 1k per run but took alot of runs and it was on 8
You can do it so tou lose nothing, it all depends on how fast you want to be done and I tried to keep the guide super simple but there are more ways to do it
@@Flesson19 yes I didn’t understand till in practice but it did take me 3 hrs to max it out so thank you sir 🤠
@@Flesson19 I own 6 fiefs now 😂😂
@@LackNsee awesome job
question:
why is steel left out specifically for the town? why steel and not any other metal?
and
which metal is the main one that accelerates the stat gain? is it worth refining up?
they all work together and tied together. The only reason I mention steel was to keep it simple, you can use any metal to lower the price, something like 500-1k wrought iron to town might do it. You can couple this together with wood and charcoal also
Dude thanks a ton
Thank you a ton for supporting
its still working in 1.2.8 guys
OMG THIS IS GOD TIER
Thank you
Hey Flesson! Is there any good stats for leveling companions?
I like to do bandit hideouts with my companions. Also, you can make a group of companions only on the battle field to kill looter grpups.
if you dont mind it slowing you down, as you progress steward is great. I got a vide on the guides channel I havent moved yet showing how much xp it gives
thats op bro thats help me alot , thank you bro :D
You're very welcome, thank you so much for the support.
lol very nice definatly gonna try this thanks
Let me know if u have issues, certain things can throw ya off and I can help ya through it
There is an option to buy out everything they are carrying. Both the caravan and the trader in town. You don't have to do it just for the metal, right? It will still work regardless if what you do this with.
8:06 I have 5 social and 5 focus points and I still got to 303 , can.t replicate the exploit tho ( obviously )
I had twice the metals you did so that might have something to do with it
@@blitzkrieg2928 it's the price in town that does it, when no metal in town you sell to caravan so it's expensive, then sell metal in town to drive price down to about 15, then buy metal back from caravan cheap
@@Flesson19 Thanks a lot
@@blitzkrieg2928 all good now?
This is not an Exploit....Its how Economics & Markets Work. You should call the Video "Trade Abuse" :))
I do agree as I think it is a mechanic, its like buying all products at a store and selling in the world for a mark up as the supply is lower vs demand. Kind of how video cards were. However most get on me for saying that so I just called it that. But it's mechanic thats been it he game since day 1 of early access to I 1000% agree with you
You're the best✌🏻
Thanks bro!
Thank you for watching
Hes talking to me like he just caught me eating elmer's glue again for the eighth time, and he needs to explain to me again why its wrong.
Its hilarious, and im here for it. 🤣🤣
got a question?
This still works :)
yeah and so easy for them to stop. It could be done with a mechanic in the game, they just wont do it and been in since the start 3 years ago. so honestly is it an exploit?
It works. But why Sanala, does it work in other cities?
@@habibprihandono2054 its the price of metal. It is very high there giving more profit
thanks for the guide
Thank you for watching
This could be used just to farm regular exp too, right? How quickly could you power level up to lvl 40 and beyond?
I have done it and getting to the mid 30's isnt too bad but 40 was a pain. You need thousands of each metal to get great xp but not using many, yes you can power level decently since you gain character xp even if trade is hard capped
you saved me
Woot, not everyone gets the process, happy for ya
Does it count for Fat Cat achiv ?
yes it should as your getting trade xp trading
How do you get it to work in the console? I'm on the ps5 and it won't work.
your not trading enough materials, you're not driving the rice enough in town or dont have the points into social and trade
So what if you don’t have 8 in social n 5 in trade?
then you cant hit 300, that is minimum required unless you do something extreme like 1 huge trade which takes forever to get enough items to do it
Thanks for the quick response !
@@onealjones318 Thank you for watching
Do you need to have 8 social cause I only have 2
yes 8 social and 5 trade is 302 hard cap
Oh damn😢😢
@@ShamTakeProfit now there is a way to do it. It would require thousands if not ten of thousands of materials to do it. My friend Hero I think shows it off, let me know ifu want to se it
I bet if you built 3 smiths in a town a week or longer in advance that this may further help to make this exploit go faster.
for some reason, caravans are buying for low price, what should i do
Not sure what ya mean, as you do this no time should move. You just go in and out of town, game doesn't advance
@Flesson19 yeah i did the exploit sold my steel to the city tried selling my metal to the caravan but he just kept buying at extremely cheap prices and selling to me at extremely high prices
@@NotThatGuyDoes your doing the opposite, with no metal in town then sell all but steel to caravan. go into town and sell steel to drive price down, then buy from caravan at cheap price. Go back into town and buy your steel, now the price is high again to sell to caravan
@Flesson19 ohhh so i shouldve sold the metal first?
@@NotThatGuyDoes sell all but steel to caravan, then sell steel to town, but all your metal from caravan, the last buy steel back from town, rinse and repeat
Has it been patched? I repeated everything to the letter and lost about 26k
U do lose a little in the full process but depending on how many materials you use, you can get 300 in 5-60 minutes. I just tested it earlier this week. This way you do lose money each transaction but get 300 very fast
my trade raised to 101 solelly with worshops... then it stoped... any reason why?
are you at your hard cap for the skill?
Hey Flesson ive taken a break from bannerlord as I've had a lot of problems with the recent patch such as the smithing shrinkage bug and sieges seem to have gotten worse. Seems pretty quiet from the devs is there any word on a major patch upcoming? Thanks
from hat I hear not before the 14th, and maybe a hotfix, but I would assume around mid to late this month I think we will see 1.2
Great guide, but I think the first part of the video is wrong, 8 in social and 5 into trade doesn't make hardcap 302.
8 X 14 is 112 -10 is 102. 5 X 40 is 200. 200 + 102 is 302. I have a video with a graph that shows hard caps. th-cam.com/video/c28G9z65bK8/w-d-xo.html
I can make it whit 6 in social?
@@germanroman7906 Must have 8 social and 5 trade to hit 300
@@Flesson19 no me la conteeeesssss
What happens if I don’t have 8 points in social and 5 points in trade? Will it just not work?
no because trade gives 50 cap per focus point and attribute 14 per point -10,if you only had 5 trade and 5 social then your cap would be 260, 6 social, 274, 7 social 288
This only works with metals? Or thia is the worthest material to trade?
Hardwood/charcoal, also horses, my friend Hero covered them. Let me know of u want to see them
@@Flesson19 yes i'd like
@@FakiuChairo here is one, check his channelf or the other, he doesnt have many videos th-cam.com/video/zC6zUjZqyI4/w-d-xo.html
if it happens to be your own caravan, would you get any profits from it?
if at the end of all the trading you would get a % of the profit it carries over 10k
Hey does this work on 1.29???
I just checked it a month or so ago and worked fine
@@Flesson19 thanks G!
Hey Flesson just out of curiosity would owning multiple smiths in Sanala manipulate the demand and thus the price at all? Also can confirm as a console player that I had tried this exploit a few patches ago and it did indeed bug out after one attempt, it simply just refused to acknowledge the trade after which I gave up messing with it, so good to know save & reload fixes it I'll give it another go now that I know that, I appreciate the info bro.
I think it would but not by a ton to justify spending that much on them and waiting as you want to do it as soon as possible while prices are high
@@Flesson19 Ah I see so doing it midway through my current campaign would not yield the same results you got or at the very least it would have diminished returns, is that correct or am I totally off base here?
@@HypnoticChronic1 you want to find a spot where the prices are high for metals. Anyplace will work as you when you sell the steel it drives the price down, but the more expensive its worth the more xp youll get each time. Sometimes you just need to visit a few shops and see what they are paying for lets say 1 fine steel and see who is paying most and that will be the town to do it in
@@Flesson19 That makes sense, I ironically still ended up Sanala anyways because of the price. Thanks again for taking the time to answer me and if I could pick your brain on one more topic despite it being unrelated to trade I'd appreciate, as I cannot find any consistent and or credible source elsewhere.
I'm currently in vassalage to the Southern Empire (both other imperial factions have lost all their holdings which we control) however, our AI keeps declaring war back to back with barely anytime to breath in between, thus we get engaged in a war then 2 other factions (typically Vlandia and Aserai) jump in and we end up having to fight a 3 front war across nearly the whole breath of the map.
All of my holdings are on the western side of the map (former Western/Northern empire starting areas) so I am right in the center of the crosshairs and am unable to cover the whole breath of the area alone (friendly AI are not exactly helpful/useful), so my question to you is (if you can help) is either how do I stop my faction from continuously declaring war nonstop and or how do I prevent a war from turning into a multi front war with multiple factions?
I would really appreciate any insight and or tips you can give, as I am still pretty wet behind the ears when it comes to comprehending the totality of this game.
@@HypnoticChronic1 if you have a lot of vassals there is nothing you can do. The key earlier in the game is to have a few vassals or even companion clans. With less than 10 and the policy reducing your cost to override them you can dictate wars and peace. I have 100% reduced escape chance for prisoners, so I hold them all hostage so when or if I wat to peace out, they pay me. It's the price you pay, more vassals they decide what to do, less vassals and not as powerful but you can decide. For me, until I have about 10 holdings I dont go crazy getting vassals so I control the action.
Do yourself a favor. Bring that skill point to 9 not 8. Cuz if you don't and you don't have enough metal (what he suggests is no longer enough) it's gonna get VERY grindy. This braught me about half way, the next fourth was decent, but by about 280 it was only increasing 4-5 levels and by 290 that dropped to 2 levels and at 295 it was half a level to a level. I got lucky and levels at 298 and with that skill to 9 it finished it off...
yeah for times sake its how much you got is equal to time. Like my first run ever I did in 9 days, I has so little metal it took me around an hour to get 300 but with alot of it very quick
How did you discover that this all had to occur on the same game tick?
I think it has to do with prices changing then. If that's what you're referring to
@Flesson19 so I'm trying to understand the mechanic at play here. Is the caravan price getting pinned to the price in the city like the anchored settlement prices do?
@@kalan4787 right, the price of the caravans goods are determined by the town they are close to. Lowering the price of something in town will lower the price of the caravan for that good if it's near that town
Still works 12/24
is it working in 1.2.9?
yes, I update the title and most times the pinned comment to let you know
Starts video. Gets to 1:51. Goes back to game and refines for 2 hours. Take a smoke break. Return to video.
yeah getting the parts takes awhile
kind of a shame that exploiting like this is really the only way to get the 300 perk. I spend alot of time leveling trade with every legit strat i could think of, but only got to 170
I've tested it, even with 10 into social it takes me around 700-800 days to get 300 with horse trading nerfed
does* work 12/06/2024
I f’d up my bad
Verified it works perfectly, you got points into trade, drive the price down in town to around 12 with steel?
Suggest preparing a script of the talking points beforehand or edit a little more to cut out irrelevant conversation / repeated information.
I do now, this is an older video when I wasn't. All my guides from the last month -2 months are scripted
for simple sell your goods make inflation then buy them for cheaper then sell it again do it all again
its great, but only works once for me
Do you have 8 into social and 5 into trade?
How do you get so much metal??
Even though they dont have a lot of money, you get XP for the total amount of the sale regardless if they have the money to pay for it. The more metal, the less you trades you gotta do
@@jakeroberts3070 my apologies read it wrong. Smelt pugios and tribesmen throwing daggers
Followed the steps, Doesn't work for me
do you have points into trade and social or are you giving enough metal to the town to drive the price down to 15-20?
I just can't get through the video, I cant concentrate on it
Can you passively gain experience by just selling armor and weapons?
I cant think of a way since its, very hard to make a profit doing it, would need all the perks and even then it wouldn't be much
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