How "Too Far Gone" Gave us the Perfect End to the Prison Era
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Ironically enough, despite Rick's plea to the Governor that nobody is too far gone and that they can be saved and peace can happen, Rick learned that some people just weren't made for the pressures of the apocalypse and that some survivors he's going to meet are too far gone and can't be helped. I think that's why the episode had such a long lasting impact, it's likely one of the key moments where Rick as a character realized that Shane was right about a lot of things he said. I think Season 4 episode 9, the one right after Too Far Gone, was the end of the "Let's help everyone we come across" Rick and the beginning of the "Let's feed people as need feeding and shoot them as need shooting" Rick that we are familiar with today.
Absolutely it was. This was one of the biggest if not the biggest moment that changed Rick forever.
That's really well written, and a really interesting way to look at that but I'm still gonna call you a nerd, Nerd!
Ah yes Rick van der Linde!
@@thecato2436 Rick Van Der Linde OP
He called Rick a liar bc when Philip met the chambers Philip wanted to believe that he could change and he could become the family man he once was before Woodbury and the tragic death of Penny turned him into the Governor...when he realises that the road is blocked and he has to become the governor again to keep the Chamblers alive he gives up on redemption and accepts he has to embrace villainy. The Governor didn't believe Rick bc Philip failed when he tried to change.
You know a episode is good when you're rewatching it and you already KNOW Hershel is going to die but you still hope he doesn't...especially after Rick's speech "We're not too far gone." Incredible episode
Fr i just rewatched it yesterday and was thinking rhe same thing
Thats so funny. I started rewatching the show and Im at the end of S2. When I watched it, I really hoped Sophia didnt go missing and hoped that Daryl finds Sophia :DDD although I already knew what happens
Sadly these episodes and buildups are very rare in walking dead and even completely absent after the governour dies. Its just trash after this, especially the Alexandria and Negan Arc.
@@CODA96 thats why we hate Scotty
I always think that when i am watching Revenge of the Sith. Everytime i hope anakin doesn't kill mace windu lmaoo😂😂
The fact that The Governor got shot but walked up to continued to cut of Hershal's head without hesitation, showed how crazy he is.
After he realised that road is blocked he accepted that he cannot redeem himself and he went to the prison to go out fighting as the governor...he no longer cared about his own life or anyone else's...he did help Hershel our though he was going to die very slowly if Philip didn't finish him off.
@@LightninLewis he also most likely would have become a full walker that Michonne would have probably put down in 4x09 since Michonne puts down his reanimated head
@@pyr1412 The expression of the governors face isn't an expression of a man enjoying what he is doing it's the face of a man who has given up for good....Philip Blake is gone and he is never coming back bc all that is left now is the governor...killing Hershel and stopping Meghans reanimation devoid of emotion was the governor killing Philip Blake for good.
@@LightninLewis thats interesting. I remember the scene with all the walkers trapped in the mud. Whats the correlation between the blocked road and the governor finally succumbing to his old ways?
No, It showed how durable he is. he even used his injured arm to disfigure rick's face
That "Liar" from the Governer is so iconic to me, sends chills down my spine when I hear it, such a good scene even if it does see the end of Hershel who I was truly sad to see go
The Liar from Anakin in Episode 3 was better
@@CODA96 nobody asked lmao
@@SanSan-jp1fr LIAR!!!
@@CODA96 We canal olive together
@@CODA96 YOU'RE WITH HIM! YOU BROUGHT HIM HERE TO KILL ME!
I love how "daryl is daryl, so he uses a walker as a shield and throws a grenade" makes sense as a sentence
The prison era will forever be my fave and I think this era was the peak of the walking dead so intense!!
Prison itself was very boring but the conflict between Woodbury, the Governour and Rick was really interesting.
@@CODA96 90% of the shit that happened in Alexandria was boring af. The Prison was pretty intense in comparison
@@ahabduennschitz7670 Yeah it really completely went downhill after the prison, and i already found that relatively boring. The show had tons of concepts so play around with, such as ACTUALLY hunting for a cure in Washington, where everything was still standing. But no, they kept their boring feud between ridiculous groups where main characters of course were shielded by bullets, while everyone else was instakilled, followed by a 40 minute ''the world isnt what it used to be anymore'' episode that we have seen a billion times. I just stopped shortly after negan, he was also such a boring antagonist.
@@CODA96 The show peaked at Hershels farm, but the prison was still good TV. Season 4B through Season 6 is watchable but nothing like early TWD. And after Glenn's death, it's just not even worth watching
@@f.r.etling6226 Way before Glenns death... after they left the Prison. One fake death out after another, cliffhangers that arent really cliffhangers and tons of disposable characters dying by (apparently) super zombies who are stronger than you and totally silent, accompanied by sad music, meanwhile everyone with Plotarmor runs through hordes only to be slightly touched. Rick and Friends even bend time and space to find food/ammo whenever they need it or alter the rules of their own show, such as Rick explaining that walkers are drawn towards blood, but when darryl was unconcious with a bleeding arrow wound, the zombie slightly nibbeled on his shoe. Or when it was established that zombies always make sounds - there are tons of stealth zombies in S2 alone, for the sole reason of jumpscaring the viewer. Awesome show.
The Governor in my opinion was the best villain in the series. I’ve watched every episode, and the Governor’s character is by far the most captivating. Let’s not forget he’s the only one who had Rick dead to rights in a straight-up fight. Had it not been for Michonne, Rick was done.
Yea the governor was the best he was the only man to completely destroy everything that the group had made negan might have mentally broke the group but yhe governor broke them mentally and physcilly
The governor in the show was way better written too. A man lost his daughter and descended into madness. He mirrors Rick in his leadership after losing someone important yet we see Rick come back after losing Lori
The coldest line in this episode is when Hershel asked how could he kill another mans daughters knowing how it feels not to have your own. And the Governor says cause theyre not mine. The look on hershels face was priceless. Terrific acting by both mem in this scene
despite Negan having alot more elements to his character and being in the show for a long time, something about The Governor definately made him a scarier more unhinged villain than Negan, whos now more of an anti hero. he seemed more serious, believable, and more intimidating than Negan who (even tho hes a rlly cool character) was more of a manchild leading the Saviors. Not even a particularly scary-looking one. I miss the Governor.
The Governor was slightly more tragic bc Philip Blake was a kind family man but the apocalypse gradually turned him into what we saw in the main show...Negan was already a bad husband and he was violent...the apocalypse just unleashed what he already was then he made himself worse to be the leader the saviors needed to keep what they were building at the sanctuary.
Steven ogg should return as Simon in a backstory episode...was he always the ruthless person he was as Negan's 2nd command before the apoclaypse?
In my opinion it was his theme, "The Pulse"
It's such a chilling theme
@@Wyr_111 He had 2 two themes the pulse and the theme that was introduced at the end of S3 E3...the pulse was his "governor" theme and the other theme was his "Philip Blake" theme when Meghan ran towards him in live bait a part of that soundtrack played it was his hero theme to symbolise that Philip Blake was the man who was holding Meghan not the governor...then when the governor returned at the end of dead weight the pulse returned...Philip Blake is my favourite character in the show
@@Wyr_111 bye bye baby bunting is another governor theme too
I cannot wait for the return of Andrew Lincoln and Danai Guerrera. I love this show. It's gotten me through some of the worst times of my life. I love cinema, I love storytelling. I love the Walking Dead. Long live Officer Friendly!
*gurira
I'm waiting till Lincoln and Guerrera come back in another project before I start watching season 11 personally. I love Norman Reedus's portrayal of Daryl but I want to have something solid as they're some of the best characters narratively left.
I still remember watching this episode for the first time. Hershel’s death was one of the only character deaths my family didn’t accidentally spoil for me, and I was absolutely distraught. Like I was sobbing for a solid 10 minutes we had to pause the episode lmao. He was one of my favourite characters, he was like the group’s grandpa, and he was so fucking kindhearted, so seeing someone like the Governor be the one to end his life was agony. And I *hated* the Governor (as a villain. His character is absolutely phenomenal and one of the best antagonists the show has seen imo), which was the cherry on top of this depressing sundae. Absolutely phenomenal episode, it really showed what TWD is capable of
And it only went downhill after.
Too Far Gone was the best episode of the series imo. Perfect blend of action, drama, and payoff.
That's also one of my favorites episodes too, Hershel death was incredibly shocking to me.
Season 4 as whole was the apex of the show in my opinion.
When Rick delivers that speech it always gives me chills
I wanna see more vids like this for classic episodes like the calm before, A, last day on earth/the day will come when you won’t be , no way out so many episodes you can do!
I just rewatched A yesterday. I completely forgot how enjoyable it was
Here's some ideas on what episodes you could cover:
01x01 "Days Gone Bye"
02x10 "18 Miles Out"
03x12 "Clear"
04x16 "A"
05x16 "Conquer"
06x16 "Last Day On Earth"
07x01 "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be"
08x14 "Still Gotta Mean Something"
09x05 "What Comes After"
10x22 "Here's Negan"
11x14 "The Rotten Core"
Here's negan is my favorite episode
4 walls and a roof is another great episode imo
Great list
S4 E6 and 7 are great episodes...Philip Blake's transformation to being the governor again after trying to be a good man again was very sad...the RV roof leaking in E7 was a great metaphor and when they find the cabin that housed a man who also lost his wife and kid...kept walker heads just like the governor.
"Here's Not Here" has to be probably one of the best episodes hands down, and it should be covered ngl-
another great thing about the governor is his theme - it's extremely memorable, and whenever you hear it, you know that something is about to happen. the loud pulse noise gets louder as the governor becomes more violent and immoral - getting extremely loud when he had hershel and michonne at gunpoint from his hiding spot in the woods
I would very much like to see a "What If" style spin-off of TWDU, looking at different choices that might have been made and what the results and ripple effects might have been.
That would be interesting
Would kill to see one where they didn't kill Carl.
@@turntheswitchoff8259 buddy do I have some books for you…
@@fignewtontv6573 I read the comics. I just want to see how the show would have handled him given how different it was from the comics.
What If shane was alive
What If the governor made peace with rick
But instead they're making a show about negan and maggie, gotta blame the fanbase for that
I honestly feel like more of the core group should have fallen at the prison. The Fall of the Prison was devastating in the comics.
It truly was
The prison fall in the comics was just heavy hitters and I loved it, it really made the world feel so depressing
To be fair after they left the prison, tyrese and Beth were killed off.
Also T dog ,Lori, Axel,Herschel and many side characters lost their lives at the prison.
@@ciarajones4970 Hershel held his son, Billy in his arms and cried for death. Axel, Lori, Tyreese, Patricia, Alice, Judith. Yeah, it was a bloodbath in the comics. Literally like every there died besides 3. 3.
@@0neiros. I gotta pick up the comics
I love this episode and can always rewatch it w/o ever getting bored. I still remember the night this aired and after the deaths of Hershel and Gov and the fall of the prison and the group being scattered. I remember texting my best friend (we live in separate states) and I was like well he’s fucking dead and my friend replied yup rip Gov and I was like bruh I’m talking abt Hershel and he was like yea rip Hershel as well. We both were fans of both characters so I understood where the confusion was but still this episode had its moments. I remember watching it w/ my dad the first time and when the Gov was holding michonnes sword to Hershel’s throat. I kept telling my dad he won’t do it then I was like oh he’s gonna do it then my dad was like of course he’s gonna do it Hershel’s death needs to happen to kick off this fight and when Gov swung michonnes sword into Hershel my jaw just dropped then when Michonne stabbed Gov my jaw dropped even further. But alas this episode will forever and always be in my top episodes list.
Watching this episode live was one of the most heartbreaking moments, especially with Maggie and Beth having to see their dad die, trying to fight off the dude who killed him, but couldn't give him a proper burial, and having to find a reason to live afterwards
@@spoofagoof5334 Maggie at least had the hope of finding Glenn so she didn’t wanna give up on living. Beth had Daryl but ofc when they started to bond. Beth was whisked away to Atlanta.
Great memories stemmed from this show honestly
@@spoofagoof5334 Its a bit less intense when you realize the show killed hershel off not only for a rather cheap shock scene (The Governour had no reason to kill hershel at all) it also had to be done because Hershel wouldnt survive without a leg in the open. So they just killed him off so its easier for their storyline, they always did that.
Would you be interested in doing a video on The Governor? I thought he was a very interesting villain.
Too me he was a hero at the start but his benevolent agenda as a kind father unwilling to kill someone caused his daughters death then he became an anti-hero doing bad things to save his daughter from the virus and to protect his utopia at Woodbury...after he lost his daughter for good he became a villain bc he snapped. In S4 he reverted back to who he was at the start and then slowly turned into a villain again in S4 E8 after being reminded by the apoclaypse that he cannot redeem himself.
@@LightninLewis Hershel asked him
“My daughters are at the prison. That’s who you’d be hurting. If you know what it’s like to have a daughter how can you hurt someone else’s?”
Governor looks at him and says
“Because they aren’t mine.”
4 words. Cold as ice. Walks away.
There was no good left in the Governor. If there was he would’ve taken the chance on Rick’s offer.
@@catchcan221
He didn't take Rick's offer because Rick was delusional, Rick started to believe that Hershel was right, that he could in the prison as a farmer who no longer has to embrace brutality or be the leader to survive.
Philip helped Rick, he made him realize that you can't be who once were anymore and you have to be "evil" to survive in this world bc if you don't kill you die, and that you are never safe even though it seemed that way at the prison.
There was a time when Philip would have cared about Hershel's daughters but being a good man caused his daughter's death.
@@LightninLewis If you can’t tell the difference between Rick and the Governor I don’t know what to tell you. Rick managed to survive in the world without being the kind of evil that the Governor was. Rick only committed brutally when he had to. The Governor massacred his own Woodbury people in cold blood, something that Rick could or would never do.
@@LightninLewis You’re delusional. Governor didn’t have to become a bloodthirsty maniac after losing his daughter. Rick lost Carl and didn’t become a bloodthirsty maniac. Carol lost her daughter and didn’t become a bloodthirsty maniac.
The Governor always had that evil in him deep down inside. The Zombie Apocalypse brought out his true nature.
Love the videos man, the way you make these videos and the way you talk about the show makes me want to watch for hours, keep it up and thanks for your work :)
Appreciate that a lot!
This episode was FAR TOO GOOD! A perfect ending to the prison era.
One of my fav details from this episode was when the governor told his new gf and daughter to “stay by the water because it’s safe there” or something along those lines, right before the daughter found a flash floods sign buried in mud moment before being hit by a Walker found in the same mud. It just showed that no matter how hard he tried he just wasn’t good at protecting people he cared about.
What really bothered me, other than Hershel's death RIP 😢, was that Rick, a guy who held his own against Shane, a fellow cop, lost a fight against the Governor, just some random dude.
Only he wasn't some "random dude" by the time season 4 hit.
You can argue that Rick was mkre injured then governor
Was in shock too after the death of hershel. The governor is a straight up psychopath with nothing but rage in his head
Rick is not very good in hand to hand combat, atleast in s4. The Governor on the other hand was a beast in h2h (for someone with basically zero martial arte experience before the outbreak). I see this very often that people underestimate the governor but end up overestimate characters like negan or rick. Show governor would've torn show negan apart in a fist fight. Yeah rick is by far my favorite character, but i don't even see him in top 10 best fighters in the show.
You can’t always predict crazy
Great video as always. One of my favorite episodes. Will you please analyze season 5 episode 9 the episode that the group is walking and have lost everything and nothing left to give but still join together and hold the barn door during the tornado. This is a wonderful episode filled with symbolism and they meet Aaron at the very end. Thank you
I think that is season 5 episode 10
@@CountJP Yea I think it’s called “Them”
No, that's 5-10, 5-9 is the episode where tyreese dies.
I loved this hole episode the governor is still my favorite villain on the show and comics.
The Governor was a psychopath, so I wasn`t surprised that he killed his girlfriend. Especially how he dismembered Hershel. Please remember that this kept multiple heads of his enemies as trophies in fish tanks.
This is the best the walking dead episode. People say No Way out but I prefer this honestly it was perfectly written
Totally agree. Season 2 with Shane and season 3-4 with the Governor was simply epic. I love the not too far gone speech Rick gives. Just amazing story. I still remember this.
This episode was really impactful. Nice breakdown on it. Thank you!
IMO the Governor was the best villain/antagonist in the walking dead tv show. He was the person that changed Rick and his group in more ways than one.
Beautiful editing with that Behind the Scenes shot. The original soundtrack playing while showing, for this video, a "what if" picture of the Governor accepting Rick's offer of peace. Him helping Hershel up in that shot, knowing what actually happened, is gut wrenching. Excellent artistic work 👌👍
Great video. And I loved this episode. One of the most heart-wrenching episodes ever. Every time I see these scenes I do wonder though whatever happened to those kids beside Lizzie and Mika at 4:00. They missed the bus and had a better chance to survive in that case. I’d love a TWD webisode/Tales episode showing what became of them since they’d be adults in the current timeline
Yeah man!!! This episode I remember so well because my dad had watched it before me cause I was spending the night somewhere (this was also when we watched TWD on Netflix years ago) and I just remember how much shock I was in over Hershel’s death and how the Governor died. Great episode and I agree with everything you said haha!
David Morrissey killed it with gov’s acting
This is actually one of my favorite episodes
RIP Hershel Green 😞
Now I’ve had a different take on the Governor. I see Too Far Gone as him almost finding peace. He could’ve tortured Michonne. He had every chance to, but didn’t. He’s a changed man, not the same as before. But his fear of trusting Rick won over, ending it all. I honestly believe if Rick offered to leave, he wouldn’t fire.
That’s a very interesting perspective! Not what I personally got from the episode but I love that it allows us to have our own thoughts on what’s going on. Both are equally as true in my eyes.
@@thethriftytypewriter I just don’t see S4 rendition f the Governor being the same as S3. Where S3 version loves to kill, S4’s version really doesn’t want to kill. He only killed those 2 guys in episode 7 since they were a threat to his new family. One was constantly holding a knife over his head over telling Lilly what Philip really did, and the other was an indecisive leader. Hell, for a while he seemed content being out of the line light and not in change. But that changed. The conversation Philip had with Hershel in the RV makes me really believe he doesn’t want there to be any bloodshed. Just a simple exchange of goods.
I mean if Rick just leave the prison I'm sure Phillip would release prisoners wouldn't follow them and just live in prison... but we never will know what would happen if Rick just accept his ultimatum
Another tell, he didn't take his AUG with him. I agree with you and I find the episode makes it clear as well. He truly believed he'd roll up to the Prison and take it without firing a shot. Its only when he realizes he isn't getting that, does he snap. He's not the same Gov from Season 3. A lot of TWD fans are to be honest..pretty dense. It was so much more complex than "he just wanted revenge on Rick and co" when his three episodes literally telegraph the opposite, even the lines he says. There was no point to his solo episodes if its the same motives for the Gov from S3, kill the group I hate so much. He wanted the Prison for Meghan and his new group, period. It wouldn't have mattered if Rick and his group were there or someone else was. He would have tortuted and killed Michonne if the fans belief was accurate, yet he all but apologizes to her. Michonne Penny was already dead I know that now. The fans need to go back and rewatch his solo episodes.
@@anthonyp2697 the issue is after his "development" because rick doesn't suck up to him, he goes back to his old ways, which shows he doesn't really change, it's not genuine
Love the vids man! I'm on a marathon watching your vids! Great job on everything!!
The ending is one of the powerful scenes. Rick proved why he is the superior leader than The Governor or Shane.
3:15 is probably my favorite 20 seconds of television. You can feel the Governor truly weighing Rick's words (I think this is why the camera focuses on the sword, as if to portray the Governor actually feeling the weight of the sword, and the "weight" of the moment, the decision he has to make, and Rick's words. Plus something in there about being "on the knifes edge.") and you can feel Rick's helplessness as the ball is fully in the Governor's hands. Then, the pure vitriol in the word "Liar," whispered as if he's not even convinced of it himself (perhaps he means that, Rick may be able to forget the past, but the Governor cannot) but feels compelled to press on with his own actions.
Then there's the cut. With one stroke, the Governor ended not just a chance at peace, but killed the most hopeful member of the prison group and the same one who did his best to rein Rick back into a more civilized life.
And then there's Rick's reaction. There's no symbolism here, he just screams in rage, and pulls his revolver and fires rapidly. Pure emotion.
I stopped watching shortly after the time jump so with the series coming to a close, I started watching the series through again. There's alot of highlights in the show but the prison always held a warm spot in my heart. Just came to Too Far Gone the other day and...my gawd, it's just as good as I remember. Soul crushing but also exciting/thrilling even if you know what's gonna happen. Hershel still got me crying, the proud smile he gives Rick before the governor whispers "liar"....still shocks you
the worst part about the governor’s group is he killed that one guys brother and he was still loyal
this is so true. i absolutely love this episode and the one after, funnily enough called "after" are top notch along with no way out were such big deals for me. topping off my top five are clear, and i think either bloodletting or 18 miles out.
The governor has ruined so many lives if you think about it, he destroyed Woodbury and it’s people and the ones that were left fled, and then the governor destroyed that nice camp Martinez had, then governor destroys ricks home.
My two favorite episodes are often considered filler. At least one is. My absolute favorite is The Orchard. My second is the Daryl/Beth story that took place shortly after this. I hope you will talk about those two someday.
The episode is 3/4 filler, but an entertaining one
TS-19, days gone by, Killer Within, Still, and here’s Negan are all episodes i would definitely watch a video on. Those are some of my favorites
Say what you want, but David Morrissey's "the Governor" is not only the second best villain in all of the show (after Shane), but also the best depiction of this character in existence to this day. I wish they could make some movies based on the books about Blake's life with Morrissey still playing as him.
Milton told Andrea that he was once a very kind man...too me he was too kind at the start and that got his daughter killed...being ashamed of himself and believing he could save her started his transformation. I want to see how it happened...the comic book version was also a great character the rise of the governor is a great backstory. When Andrea asked for his real name he hesitated he hated saying his name bc he was ashamed bc the good man he once was got penny killed.
Shane isn't a villain
@@Ashley_J.W yeah he's more like anti hero
I totally agree, only adding
The episode arc up to “Too Far gone” is why this packs such a memorable punch
Watch:
Live Bait
Dead Weight
To Far Gone
(Back to back)
Epic narrative experience... blows most current movies away effortlessly. Everyone who worked on this arc knocked it out of the park!
(Mad respect to David Morrissey 🙏)
You have to remember that The Governor had no good intentions for anyone but himself. What he would do was foreshadows when he said to Meghan “that’s a pawn, they’re your soldiers.” The fall of the prison was also foreshadowed when he said “you can loose a lot of soldiers but still win the game.” Just as he did.
Negan on the other hand, despite potentially being more brutal and monstrous, had good intentions which where to keep his people safe and civilised. He had morals and principles that he followed, which the Governor didn’t. While the Governor would sexually assault Maggie during an interrogation, Negan would kill one of his best soldiers for attempting to rape Sasha, a prisoner who tried to assassinate him. Negan wasn’t a “bad person” he just did bad things for what he thought was the greater good. As he said to Alpha “I made myself into a monster, because that is what the world needed. I built something, I saved people.”
The difference between The Governor and Negan is stated in their names alone. The Governor took the title of “Governor” a type of politician, which are known and notorious for being selfish, self absorbed liars. While Negan was apart of a group called “The Saviours” because even though he did awful things he was just trying to save people.
You also need to remember Shane ls a massive reason why Rick became who he was being the murder jacket rick version . Shane early on tried telling him how the new world is and this and that and on caught on quick before anyone else did . Shane told Rick he can’t be the nice guy officer friendly all the time . Ever since the governor kept trying to danger ricks group with making those few trips to the prison to attack off and on and then finally have the governor fighting rick and beating the shit out of him as him killing Hershel amd destroying the prison for ricks group to leave , was definitely a wake up call to rick from Shane as he couldn’t hold it in anymore with trying to maintain his humanity and the nice side of him . Rick became Shane at the end of season 4 after leaving the prison and definitely in season 5
I think No Way Out would be great for the next one. Probably my favorite episode barely beating Too Far Gone
this video made me realize that this show Is a part of me, this episode on this show is golden for me and is one of my favorite episode and the most memorable. It kind of made me sad a little bit because this was a lot of years ago and the show is now more than a decade years old and then it is ending this year. I just hope we can see rick have a episode just like this again and we can have a new villain as impactful as the governor and negan these two are the most underated villains in the entire universe and probably better villains than Darth vader or joker.
Other episodes you can do:
No Way Out (06x09)
Better Angles (02x12)
The Day will come when you won’t be (07x01)
The Grove (04x14)
No Sanctuary (05x01)
What Comes After (09x05)
Killer Within (03x04)
The Clam Before (09x15)
Quite the damning amount of 5 star episodes eh? Glad to see that you placed No Way Out (06x09) at the very top where it rightfully belongs…
These are great picks, I would add this too, Pretty Much Dead Already S2ep7
The first episode of this season was Rick’s little adventure with the Crazy Blazer lady trying to feed him to Eddy the Heady. That’s the introduction of this idea of being “too far gone” that he discusses with Hershel. Hershel says that there’s no such thing as too far gone, and Rick slowly starts to see it through his perspective through the first half of the season. Rick’s speech was the little glimpse of him finally understanding Hershel’s ideology of coming back to humanity, but it’s quickly smothered out by the death of Hershel. The final nail in the coffin is when Crazy Blazer lady is amongst the walkers that overrun the prison in the end 👀
When I saw that little callback, it made me realize what a beautifully crafted arc this entire prison era was 😭
LMFAO
That transition between the set photo between Scott and David, immediately switching to the Governor turning Hershel into a sideways Pezz dispenser was brilliant. I’m enjoying your content, what do you use for editing??
Personally, I believe that The Governer DID want to take the prison peacefully, but Rick's speech, and him knowing who Rick was (knowing Rick during his insane era), it made something break in him.
I think that, in that moment, he realized that he was back where he started (s3 finale); in charge, and leading an attack. Even though it's not a position he wants or a decision he wants to make, he somehow finds his way back there, and Rick's speech broke something in him -- the belief that people change. He doesn’t want to believe that people can change because he feels that he hasn't even after how hard he's tried. So, he gives in and gives up trying to be good.
If you've heard it, Kanye West's "Runaway" kinda perfectly encapsulates The Governer.
One thing not many people mention is the Fort Benning connection. Mitch and some of the other people at the camp came from Fort Benning after it fell, and soldiers from Fort Benning supplied the Governor's military supplies. And, after the entire story of our protagonists takes place in a reality where they changed their minds from their original goal of going to Fort Benning is on the other side of the fence of a group of people who did. It's a nice parallel and a conclusion to the first half of the story of the Walking Dead.
they shoulda emphasized it more, its a small detail, i love shane so i remembered how he kept talking about fort Benning after i rewatched the show, apparently it was destroyed, in season 5 the group goes homeless and walks around for days before Alexandria, that's what woulda happened to thr group if they went to fort Benning early on, although i dont know how the map is, but maybe fort Benning was near Washington, meaning they coulda got thr alexidria invite thingy and stayed safe and not fought many zombies, i could be wrong but yea rhe fort Benning easter egg is nice, and the parallel u gave
@@IIIISai Fort Benning is near Columbus, Georgia. Its also based off Fort Moore, (Formerly known as you guessed it) Fort Benning.
Fort Moore is just near Columbus. Near Alabama border.
This is EASILY my favorite episode (and probably my favorite season) of TWD. This is where it peaked (for me, at least) and I was literally shaking when this episode faded to credits.
the walking dead is like a drug I been hooked on for the past decade. ill always get hooked even watching repeats all time!!!!!!!!
bruh the walking dead on disney plus has got to be the craziest thing i've ever heard
Here to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" as a future focus. Just as this episode marks such a titular thematic shift from Shepherd Rick to the Murder-Beard Era, TDWCWYWB hearkens the beginning of Wise Rick the White (...beard) which we haven't seen enough of in TWD tv universe. Anywho. Great job, as always. Love the shorter intro you've got going on. 👌 🌟 🧟♀️
This episode was the highest the walking dead ever flew. I loved the stuff that came after, but the Gocernor arc was something special. When I rewatch the show, I'm always drawn back to that era of the show more than any other. The Governor was the Goat. AMC needs to do an else worlds tale where Negan comes knocking on the gates of Woodbury
Agreed, this is by far my most memorable episode
Man i found your vids yesterday and can't believe you have ony 20 k subs ! Your vids are amazing 😁
I'd argue it's the best episode in the series. The climatic battle, the end of the governor, the set up for all the things to come, and ending not completely tragically but not super positively either which I feel suits an apocalypse show best.
I always thought that the governor’s “liar” line when he decides to kill Hershel is him giving in to his dark nature and destroying the idea of being able to forgive himself for what he’s done. Similar to Jamie Lannister’s character ark
I can't believe that they thought it was ever ok to leave the Governor out there somewhere. Michonne should have stuck to her instincts and kept looking for him.
This episode is masterpiece in every way. My all time favourite 🙏
Probably the Best Episode Ever of this series.. It was a roller coaster of emotions.. Very well-directed. I was so upset after watching this episode. I hated The Governor so much more than Negan.
This was the peak of TWD’s golden era!
Just a couple things, 1. The most dangerous version of the governor would actually be when he murdered all of his own people after the first time at the prison, unless you were factoring in that part into the governors current state in this episode. 2. (Kind of a nitpick) but the “rat” that Lizzie killed was actually a rabbit, she or carol actually confirms it in the episode before pr during where they died in. Love your videos though dude you should make some walking dead tier lists they’d be super entertaining. (Best characters writing wise or just favorite character list)
Yes, great episode but I can't actually name a favorite, there are so many that are so good
I was in tears when me and my parents first watched this episode when the Governor killed Hershel! Also I have a funny story concerning this episode. My little brother who has never watched the show before actually predicted that the Governor was going to die in that episode right before we watched it!
The way Rick handle things here, it does make me wonder what Shane would've done differently if he was in Rick's position in this very moment, assuming the group would've even lasted as long as they did with Shane in charge.
8:24 more like eyes to eye
I recently watched this half of that season and it was good!!! At least till they got to Alexandria but that’s a different topic. No Sanctuary was also good, do that one next!
Everyone's talking about Negan and Alpha but I think Governor made the most damage to the group
Oh definitely
He was the biggest Threat so far on the show to our group Imo
@@MistahJay7 Yeah also if the Governor didnt come back,the group would live peacefully in the prison and not many of the group would die
The Governor did set the course for Rick and Co. ending up in Alexandria by destroying the prison
He was a badass he a good fighter, good leader, great shot with one eye, not afraid of anyone and the way he killed the walkers in the pit was badass.
One cool detail I noticed now that im rewatching the show is that when the attack on the prison happens and all the zombies start to coming in, you can see Clara all zombified. Thought it was cool detail seen the aftermath of her action.
I've rewatched Season 4 episodes 6-8 a very unhealthy amount of times
Lol same but 4x8- 5x3 for me
I think a video where we fully analyze and compare the characters that are transformed by their grief. I think too little is known about the Governor to include him, but Negan, Morgan, and Michonne instantly come to mind.
i love how literally all the people on the bus are nobody’s and they just die so the writers could avoid that entire plot line
One of the best episodes for sure!
Yess omg I still remember how shocked & heartbroken I was over this episode! Seeing Rick finally become mentally stable only to have it ripped from under him! Best mid season finale ever!
This is probably my favorite walking dead vidoe
This is by far the best episode in the series. Rick's speech was epic and the Governor's whispered 'Liar' was so shocking. My wife and I both dropped our jaws and said some expletives.
It was the pinnacle of the series and for me never reached the greatness of it again. Despite my hatred of the governor for his entire arc, him dying left a hole in the show that was lacking for a very long time.
Even my love of Negan doesn't make up for it. I never thought I would have wished to see governor, but after a season and a half of seemingly random wandering.
Negan is extremely boring in my opinion. Governour had a way deeper character and was more interesting wo watch, his heroic speeches and his persuasion tactics were a joy to watch. Negan was just a psychopath turned into an anti-hero. Boring.
@@CODA96 I think I just hated governor so much because he was just so evil that I couldn't wait for him to be defeated.
Negan was a wise ass. He was fun. His introduction was my favorite episode since 'Too Far Gone'.
I had grown bored with the show when there wasn't a main bad guy to fight. I almost stopped watching to be honest.
Then Negan brought some humor and fun. Gov was the better more evil villain, but, at least for me, Negan made the watchable again.
@@gamescape7758 Negan was only good in one episode, and that was the episode where he bashed glenns head in, finally. Couldnt bear his stupid ''im surely dead guys but its just a troll haha xd'' fake deaths anymore to get their viewer quotes up.
After that he became such a boring anti hero that i stopped watching. This one guy being ''king'' with a tiger gave me the rest, it just felt like it was written by a 14yr old who thought it sounds cool.
@@CODA96 the further into the show he got, the less I liked him. I'm not saying he was a great villain. At least I don't think I said that? Just that after gov the show fell apart. It needed a heel for our heroes to face.
For me, negan gave the show an opponent to face. And he was funny. He made the show entertaining again. The character would have been better if they just left him bad and killed him.
as a “Prison episodes are the best from TWD” guy 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Gov shoulda took the deal
Love the farm and Shane's " your right that is a enough" bam!
Makes me wanna watch it right now lmao
@@jgjgrner4647 lmfao
Fun fact or theory. If the Governor hadn’t interrupted the conversation between Rick, Daryl and Tyrese, Tyrese would’ve told Carol to piss off with their reunion, which would’ve tragically meant that our group would’ve died at terminus because of no Carol. So thanks Governor 😂
or if Lizzie didn't cut the rabbit to begin with, or if carol didn't admit it or of rick didn't ask, or if carol removed the body from the prison, oh so much possibilities 😂
Well if gov didn't attack the prison they wouldn't be in the terminus situation in the 1st place
This is one of my favorite episodes in the whole show
I'd enjoy seeing most of the villains back stories what lead them to this points. Because we see how rick and the group from beginning to end. But I bet if we watched the villains back story from beginning to end we'd probably understand more it would be interesting watching those kind of spin offs
07:05 Bob Stookey on the left. I liked his character 🤗
Honestly this episode is probly one of the best iconic episodes of the whole series, Henshall's death will always be shocking
Great video
The Governor was giving Rick the business 😂😂
Hershel’s Death reply hit me hard back then
The absolute best arc of the show without a doubt
I never understood why the governor killed Hershel in that moment when he had Michonne in his grasp (the person he was initially after. the woman who killed his zombified daughter, the woman that if Rick would of gave up in the first place the war wouldn't have taken place .... probably lol) but Side Note great job in the videos as a fan who's seen every episode this series is a great listen when I'm at work I don't have to watch my phone because I recall everything you are talking about you also have great perspectives on the episodes you talk about 🤝🏼👍🏼 Keep it up 💯
One thing if the governor only wanted revenge on the prison group he would kill michonne instead of hershel because he has personal conflict with her.
One of the best TWD episodes ever!