2 New AI vs 6 Old AI
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- The new Extreme AI is pretty good, but can 2 of them take on 6 of the old CD version AI?
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Full intro song: • Spirit of the Law Chan...
Game: Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, with Forgotten Empires, African Kingdoms, Rise the Rajas, and Last Khans expansions
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Blue: “Sir, they have us outnumbered three to one!”
Red: “Then it is an even fight.”
To be fair, the Elites were operating the Covenant M1 Abrams compared to the T-34's equivalents the Brutes were using... so to the Shipmaster it would be an even fight.
I just have to say first answer that came into my mind : Stupid rebellion then.
Also don't forget about my wood.
All Barracks spam Gothic Champions, swarm their mongrel hives.
*ALL UNITS*
can't wait for the "2 spirit of the law versus 6AI" video
I've seen that type of meme in other RTS game related channel =^)
Spirit+TheViper+DauT+Fatslob vs 8 AI! (I forgot if a map can hold 12 players or not)
I would guarantee the human players would wipe the floor against 8 ai. Spirit of the Law could probably take on 4 by himself lol.
@@Kortexual Even the Elite ones?!
(slight reverb) Hey guys, I just cloned myself so I could test out the Definitive Edition AI, You can tell which one is the real Spirit because he's better, or..wait...
1 and 2: How I wish I could play.
4 and 5: How I think I can play.
3, 6, 7 and 8: How I actually play.
@@topaz173 same :(
Topaz even that Franks could destroy me easily by itself 🙂
Frank Old Ai: Goes full on beries
Spirit: Oh it is using the faster collection bonus
Me: I dont think that was intentional
Yeah it's just a coincidence it happened to be franks, it always does that
@@Kevin-wx7wu True. It's just the default go to when you don't have sheep.
pretty sure spirit was aware of it too XD
@@xarin42 yes he should, he made a point of it in the old ai vs hd ai(huns mirror match) video
Caloricsleet94 aoe2 definitive. Call me
It took 20 years, but the AI finally learned to not throw whole armies into castles like the Somme was running out of fashion. Progress!
It now just prefers a light tickling from the castles, before running away again!
@AlexNOSAM What's the meaning of that "computer science major"-term at the end of your comment? In case you used it to strengthen your "point": you didn't say anything technical.
“It’s quite vocal about getting resources....”
Yea, and the AI can go chop its’ own wood! Gave the AI 4K wood and it asked for more 2 min later...
You dense madman thats not the kind of wood it had in mind.
@@Irondragon1945 dear penthouse, I didn't know it would ever happen to me but I wad astonished when the AI of Age of Empires made flirtatious advances towards me....
@@Irondragon1945 When they said intelligent AI was dangerous, this wasn't what I had in mind
There are never enough woods
These comments are what i love most
13:06 If you look at the minimap, you can see that poor red sheep finally fulfilled her duty and was called back home. "And now her watch is ended." F
Good catch. I wanted to ask but saw this. Looks like the sheep actually made it all the way back too.
It's an he
her?? no girls in the watch dude
good one! i forgot about the sheep lmao
27:55 treb going through a closed gate because yes.
Alessandro P. Wow didnt even notice it first time i watched lol
Advanced *T E C H N O L O G Y*
22:35 a magyan hussar passes a closed gate as well. blue probably is wallhacking
It is secretly a T-1000...
*Trebuchet-1000* O_o
The cavalry too, when blue attacks gray's gates.
Cuauhtemoc did his best trying to carry all this noobs.
you could say he was doing his berry best.
yup.
The Eagle Warrior rush was one of the few times the new AIs had to fully break off their attacks to coordinate a proper counter for that.
22:35 "Yea they gonna get through that gate in not too long"
*AI just walks through*
pal, what an eyesight
Did he phase in lmao
just passing
@1234 Blue: You saw nothing!
we all have a green ai in our personal lives - that nonchalant person who's utterly disinterested in what's happening around them, just want to focus on their own life without a care of anything else while everyone else is running around and fighting each other for success in life
No need to worry about my username, that’s me.
I mean yeah, that's pretty much what I do
Meeeeeee
“Green, green, what’s your problem green?”
They just want a quite peaceful life, sadly the game didn't let them have it.
12:18 "Those walls. Thats some weird AI there.. its only going to delay"
Me: Walls in front of villagers makes them feel safe and be more productive. dont judge ......
Here is what really impressed me about the updated AI:
-The AI strategies include various rushes
-Sheep scouting
-Lures deer with scout
- Will walk through holes in your wall to raid your town
-go around your castle
-Kite archers in groups
What really took me off-guard.. is that the AI will send a villager to repair mangonels. I had to double-check that I wasn't fighting a human opponent
While the updated AI still got some of the original AI's flaws (like still never walling and spastic against trushes)I never in my wildest dreams would have predicted such a vastly improved AI.
18:44 love that 40 minute imperial-age militia
Nice eye, took a while to notice it.
Took down a Onager by himself, true hero.
Mungo the Mangonel meets its match... or is it?
- Mom, can we have champions
- We have champions at home
Champions at home:
Blue: There's six of them and two of us.
Red: LET'S GO MUG'EM!
VLDL for life!
SOTL has such a buttery voice and I love it
Makes you wonder what he’ll sound like when he’s eating a steak
for real, i just found this guy and i wish he would narrate all the games i watch
He talks to slow. I have go watch on 2× speed
Torin Jones he is talking quite fast and clear
@@torinjones3221 At leas you can speed, I can't slow down fast talkers.
I love it when the AIs ask for all resources simultaneously and it ends up sounding like 'fold please!' /s
My favourite strategy of the new AI is the strategic sheep patrol.
And I loll'd so hard when the frank AI stone walled his own lumberjacks.
Whatever AI lacks in finer logic, it more than surpasses with multi-tasking and macro-management.
He knows something we Don't
I kind of want to see a 1v1 of AIs each with a human "ally" that can only use the commands to try and direct the AI to victory.
That could be really funny. :D
That would be really cool!
it would be an RTS played with an RTS! o.O
someone should make a map as a 4v4, with a player on each side in a big fortress but with no way to build units or get eco, and 3 AIs each which the players have to direct against each other
@@DefineReality it doesn't seem like you have to tell the ais all that much, certainly much less than when actually playing the game
Oh shit yeah the intro is back ;o;
Worth the wait for that new DE footage. Can't wait to watch the intro build up over time all over again
Love the new intro can’t wait till you finish it
isn't that Karambit intro version... Was use like 1-2 month Ago?
@@evvec1490 You need to look at it again, and keep watching it. Over and over until you finally see it.
@@jcpkill1175 what am i looking at? It Same as 1 or 2 month ago..
Edited* nvm
it is beautiful
I've been playing around with the new A.I. and old. I enjoyed making random challenges for it.
Like 1V7 but every time one of the 7 takes out a completed castle I torpedo that player.
Or try to sabotage it by ordering its units around in a 1v1.
Yet again, I'm watching someone watching a computer play against another computer...
And that's not even including the fact that reality is simulated to begin with.
Hey man, i Read your comment on another video, funny running into you again 🙂
New intro in DE graphics! HYPE
Imagine trying to destroy a stone building with volley of arrows.
Imagine succeeding
_"Not at the towers! Aim for the trolls!"_
Okay bloodseeker.
*Obsidian arrows intensifies*
I tested 6 vs 2 extensively with the HD AI and they always beat the original CD AI on pure land maps. It's different with water though where they tend to lose sometimes. The HD AI does especially well with ranged units, because they just send units into the general direction of the enemy and the range helps attacking actual targets.
8:46 Blue's getting so cocky, it's helping the enemy AI with their bear
Spirit, could you try out the new AI commands by doing a 2v2 where the human players are only allowed to feed and command?
That would be amazimg id place bets on that
That’d actually be really cool.
Karambitcoin's value going down instead of up like the old intro lol
Green is building a wall at the edge of the map...
They like doing that
It's to defend against the alternate dimension force.
Never know when that other Mongol force is coming. Best to be prepared.
There's Mongol base from his northwest, what makes you think there won't be Mongol sneak attack coming from his flank?
"Must cover the void beyond spacetime with walls. Must hide the abyss. It... It keeps staring back."
~Green AI. Probably.
27:57 just a trebuchet sliding through a closed gate.
*Gate is open for a sec*
Trebuchet: Don't mind if I do.
Edit: Oh wow it wasn't open indeed.
I loved how Franks went from no-militia-drush to stone-wall-off-your-own-lumber-camp to 50-minutes-imp and finally no-bracer-cav-archers
The handling of walls by both old and new AI is weird. The old AI never linked their walls together - they'd leave all kinds of awkward no-man's lands between their allies. The new AI still gets super hung up about encountering walls. It sometimes seems to mass archers against a fortified wall... that they can just walk around.
1:25 The most important part of the video, in glorious modern graphics. Love it!
dad got me on original aoe almost 15 years ago, havent touched it for almost 10 years. Watching one of your videos got me to get definitive. Great vids man.
I feel like if the Franks had actually shown up the old AI may have stood a chance, those early eagles looked pretty dicey for a second but without any support they couldn't keep the pressure on
Eagles were not Frankish. They were Aztec.
@@MrMaro1995 That's the point. The Frankish civ didn't throw any units out until well after everyone else was depleted. The old AI were all allied, so Tiger was saying that some support from the Franks would have let the Aztec Eagles Warriors keep up the pressure.
22:36 huh?! how the heck was the cavalry at the right gate being able to get through? O.o
btw. the old a.i. rarely slings. in fact, when they die they just give all their ressources to the next teamplayer.
NOOOOOO shortened intro? I love your old intro and never skipped it ;_;
riot!
@@Wockes Must agree. We need the long one.
I'll go back to my 10 hours loop after the video
Or before, as intro? 🤔
maybe he is working on remaking the intro on DE
@@smkay6381 well, the Goth Gameplan has HD grass now, so sounds good :D
8:05 There was a Scot having fun with her sister behind the tree, and she was awaiting her time.
Now I understand the importance of walling the edge of the map.
* _The things that come from the dark void_ *
If the new AI is very aggressive with its scout, does it mean the AI scouting is aggressive or the top ELO players' scouting is aggressive? As well as going under the TC too much.
the de intro!!! love it! but please don't shorten it, bring it back to the original length :(
12:03
Sounds like you said "evil warrior"
But is it bad that I root more for the CD AI during these?
bcs he tried to steal da sheep
subtitles said that too
12:51 the new AI is just like "I'm 15 moves ahead of you and everyone else"
I done this myself with a ludicrous map. The battle raged on for ages as they all advanced to imperial age and all had relatively large armies. I'll try and get some time to replay it and upload it :)
Watched the 1v7 now this. I think it would be amazing with one where you did a 1v7 and 2v6 but where all the ai was the same exact nations/factions so that we can really see the difference in the ai. That way they have the same units stats and available buildings+ bonuses. What do you guys think? :)
Would love to see New AI vs New AI vs 6 Old AI
3 teams
Early game red: Please stop bullying me with eagle warriors
Late game red: I will destroy your bloodline with siege weapons
Finally the intro :D ... I hope that it'll become longer as more games are played and more highlights get clipped.
I'm glad about the supremacy villager, the demo-ship, the goth gameplan and the lightsabers (which last too little though). I still need a couple insane onager headshots and some nice micro (and a horse-moonwalk if possible). I'd also love some broken-Steppelancers and respawning Konniks clips.
I seem to remember having an easy time with the AI in my first campaign in HD against the Huns. Until I got to mission 4... the first mission where the AI gets to go imperial. At which point, the AI started churning out wave after wave of paladins and crossbows. The HD AIs and later seem to get particularly vicious once they hit Imperial Age.
If it's the 4th mission on the Attila campaign, it's because the Franks in that mission use Chivalry, a tech which increases their stable output by 40%. Means they can churn out Paladins at will. Ridiculous.
Nathan Barnes challenge accepted I say. I’ll just throw spearman at them! Look at them quiver in fear!
@@TheGeoCheese *watches their archers 'quiver' in fear*
6:03
ELEPHANT MONK NEW UNIT YESSSSS
oh
awwwwww
New patch: Persian war elephants can convert other elephants to the cause!
In the future AI will be unbeatable. Imagine being able to micromanage infantry, arches, cavalry and siege at the same time,, where the humans players are focusing on one army.
OMG THE NEW INTRO
Spirit, can you do a video on how strong “All Tech” would be if it were a civilization?
He protecc
He attacc
But most importantly:
THE INTRO IS BACC
This series is so good honestly, I can't wait to see more
I think 1v4 would be a tense matchup. Hope you decide to do more of these, I'm thoroughly enjoying them.
Liked because you put the intro song back in, even though it should be longer.
I don't know why youtube recommended a channel focussing on a game I've not played in 10 years but boy am I glad it did
Yes, but what happened to the sheep?
Awesome video! Cool to see an updated intro, and watching AI match-ups is really interesting!
The intro is back! And it's more beautiful than ever!
Also, great video, thanks for everything Spirit.
28:57 That poor trebuchet D:
22:35 "Pathfinding"
I'm a Hungarian. Makes me laugh every time I hear you say Magyars :D
wonder why they didn't just name them Hungarians, someone from somewhere XDDD +sigh+
@@nintom every nation in the game should have its own name :D
@@nintom For some reason the english make a distinction between the pre conquest and post conquest Hungarians (by conquest I mean the conquest of our current location in 895 AD)
Almost every time when they talk about Hungarians they refer pre 895 AD as Magyars (Wich is what we call ourselves) and after 895 or 1000 (formation of Christian kingdom) they call us Hungarian wich is a name that was given to us by byzantines that became the most used name for us outside our immediet neighbourhood
@@sosig6445 so call you guys Magyars then?
@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen
Our closest neighbours call us that. Hungarian is completely fine aswell as long as you don't make that 1 stupid pun with it.
heck we sometimes ourselves chant "HUNGÁRIA" instead of magyarok on while rooting for our sport teams.
Came here cause AoE2 Definitive Edition videos were recommended to me, staying here for the diversity of content in relation to AoE2 (despite me only being familiar with AoE3). Also i would love to see more AI battles! These really fascinate me for some reason.
22:37 anyone else see the hussar run straight through the gate?
Just what i was waiting for, ty
Super satisfying commentating aswell, you have a relaxing voice, do some more videos like this :P
You could say now it's
*DEFINITIVE*
Nice job re-creating your intro! Was not expecting that!
Correct me if I'm wrong, I just guess, their ability to sustain hard blows and then come back (continuing the production) was the key.
Try using on new AI + one old vs oldies to see how well it is at carrying
One thing I learned from these videos that I could use against AIs is use battering rams.
Diet intro? I would like to see the definitive edition when a big video drops
Living for the AI vs AI videos
Commenting in the beginning...
“I am so glad to see this! I am betting on the 2 new AI.”
Finally watched. I was right! The new AI is really spastic though!
The refreshed intro is neat, can't wait for more content ^^
It's really interesting to see you try and decipher some sort of meaning from the actions the AI do
that trebuchet just entered a closed gate @27:58 LOL
This series must continue.
Nothing better than watching new upgraded bots fighting old bots and destroying them 👀
8:34 The new ai's tactics are so advanced, that our brains are not complex enough to make sense of them
Frank AI: Lets make bit of everything!
Spirit:(softly) DON'T
11:52 Such a diligent sheep guarding the area. Who's a good boy?
I just watched 8 computer players fight to the death with each other for 30 minutes lmao
I love Spirit's new intro so much!!!! YES
When the AI asks me for resources for the 56th time, that's when my ally becomes my enemy.
Old AI: "We have you outnumbered 3-1."
New AI: "I like those odds."
You updated the Intro with DE graphics, love it!!!
But what about that sheep? Damn you, I need conclusion!
Intro music! I'm so happy to hear it again :D
Hey Spirit! As a suggestion I was wondering if you could do a playthrough of the campaigns I'm sure a lot of people would enjoy your commentary on them and maybe some trivia of the historical events being depicted.
These videos have been randomly suggested and now I’m addicted
Notice how all the original AI walled themselves around while red and blue just decided offence is the best defence
That sheep patrolling in front of the tree cracked me up way more than it should have.
I feel like they should be able to win. In that last game the AI was doing very well but was too much under pressure to strike at opponents. But let's now see if I was right.
Oh my God he actually made the intro
Thank you spirit ❤️
As usual, great video! Always great to listen to you talking about AoE2
Btw: loving the new DE intro ;)
I've seen in one of your videos, that original AI ram has attacked other siege weapon. Its not AI that is behind is, but the rams' mechanic they are now targetting other siege weapons when they are close enough.
Love the new vs old videos. I've gotten back into playing AoE2 again and I'm glad I did.
New intro! Yay!
It's somewhat shorter? Aww...