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I agree. It would be nice if meta would release an update that would give us the option to charge the headset to only 80%. Most phones have that feature. That way, you can leave the battery pack connected while you use the headset without worrying about over changing it.
There is still some misconception for almost all lithium battery devices nowadays: One your device is showing 0% battery level, it's in reality inside the lithium battery still 20% of charge, because the charging electronics inside the device (BMS=Battery Management System) take care of it.. It's like the tare function on a scale, it's scaled on the devices.. Therefor you usually never need to worry about discharging to 0%
As Doc Brown would put it: “Great Scott! When a device shows 0% battery, the voltage is still around 3.2 volts! There’s still a little energy between the state of deep discharge which is below 2.5V, but it’s not used to avoid battery damage. A typical phone battery with 3000 mAh at 0% still has about 5% left, around 150 mAh! Marty, you should charge it at 20% to prolong its lifespan, and don’t leave it fully charged for too long because it shortens the lifespan!“
@@netshaman9918 BMS can only do so much. Even fancy EVs that use NMC chemistry say not to charge past 80 on a regular basis and don’t discharge under 20. I have a Kia ev6 and that’s what I’ve been doing unless I go on long road trips and I have 0 degradation on the battery after 40,000 miles. And that bms is way more advance with active cooling and heating than a quest 3 bms.
While this is all true, IMO it's more trouble than it's worth. In my experience, by the time it really starts to degrade significantly you're ready for a new headset anyway. And even if it does degrade, as you said there are headstrap batteries, battery banks, etc, so just use these to keep it going when you're battery life degrades too much. I dunno. There's probably some value in doing all this stuff if you're on a shoestring budget, you want your Quest to last 4+ years, and even buying a battery bank would stress you out. Other than that though, I think the Nuisance of having to always be worrying about this stuff outweighs the benefits. I just leave mine on the charger, always have it connected to my headstrap battery, and when the headstrap battery degrades I'll just replace the headstrap. Just my own personal opinion, ymmv
That is why BMC exists. % values have nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with V and A values. And a proper BMC should negate most of the issues mentioned here. 100% there is a bmc in quest. BMC stands for battery management control and the max and min values of charde/discharge are monitored by it, so the no way you can do some stupid thing like overcharging or deep discharging the battery. If that was not so there would be a lot more house fires related to quest usage AS DAMAGED BATTERIES START FIRES OR EXPLODE in many cases. The ones in quest are the ones that are the fire explody boomy ones that is why 20-80 % is not true as the dangerous "values are cut off" by BMC so your face will not get damaged by using a headset
You're absolutely correct. The BMC stops charging the battery once the appropriate state of charge of charge has been reached or if temperature threshold as been hit. These batteries will eventually fail no matter what and not all batteries will perform the same. Just enjoy the device while it works and upgrade/repair when needed.
The power of power banks is not quite as you say. A power bank can have a power of e.g. 30W, but 3 USB outputs and each output has a power limit of 10W. 10W will not be enough to stop the Quest 3 from discharging. The Quest 3 charges with a maximum voltage of 9V and a current of 2A, which gives 9Vx2A = 18W. Therefore, the power bank must support PD (Power Delivery) and offer more than 18W at the output for a single USB port. Each power bank contains such information on the casing. To stop discharging (or at least slow it down significantly) in the Quest 3, about 25-30W is required - there must be a power reserve, because there are no devices with 100% efficiency. I have a 50W power bank, which easily maintains the battery at 75-80% until the power bank discharges.
Excellent video! And of course, worth waiting for. I’m one of those people who play on the Quest 3 with a battery headstrap and then place it in a charger until I’m ready to play again. I’m sure I’m doing damage to the headset by doing this. Just can’t find the time to check the battery and determine if I should charge it or leave it off the charger. But thanks to your hard work I will take the time to preserve my hard-earned Quest 3….thanks again for a great video DiscoVR! ❤️
This is why I don't mind displayport-tethered headsets, like my Reverb G2. I also really like that the controllers use normal AA batteries. No issue finding replacement batteries in the long run. I was looking forward using this headsets for a decade or perhaps even more. Unfortunately Microsoft didn't feel the same as they discontinued support for WMR in Windows 11. Now I put my hopes in the community instead! Why can't we have nice things that last anymore!?
The responsibility is shifted to the consumers to take better care of their devices, and I'm assuming corporations benefit if consumers buy new products rather than fix old ones 💁♀️ and oh well, with QUests coming up with new headsets every 1-2 years, users may just upgrade instead!
@@DiscoVRTetiana yeah, that's definitely the model companies go by these days; disposable tech... It's a real shame to be honest. Especially since meta don't earn money from the headsets themselves... This video however is much needed to keep those headsets lasting longer!
I could never go back to those god-awful Reverb G2 xmas tree controllers, they were absolutely crap. The Quest 3 controllers are ring-less, and the tracking is just superior to that G2 rubbish. The G2 had superb image quality, but those controllers were so bad I actually smashed mine against a wall in anger, had to end up getting a pre-owned pair off of eBay.
Hi there. You're partially right on this. The way lithium ion batteries do work how you're saying. But it doesn't affect batteries the same way it once did. You're blending some almost urban myths of older batteries mixed with the new. Before the newer generation of tech. And by that. I mean everything after probably the iphone2, samsung galaxy 3. They changed the way chargers charge in order to provide better longevity for Lithium Ion batteries. That's why you're supposed to use the charger meant for whatever device you're using. What they do now as long as the charger is plugged in is let the battery go down just ever slightly, then begins charging automatically again. This is to prevent over saturation of the battery. They've now just come up with solid state batteries that will soon be replacing lithium ion batteries in everything. But we've made large leaps in battery longevity. I've had my note S 22 ultra since it's released and I can still go 2-3 days without charging it. It also depends on the user, and how respondisble they are with their devices.
Same. When playing stuff like Asgards Wrath 2 and AC Nexus, the battery drains so fast that if you want to play for a couple of hours you have to leave it wall plugged. I don't mind i'm used to tethered as i'm a PSVR 2 user as well
I've been keeping this up since I bought it, I saw back then that it takes 1 hr and 40 minutes to charge, so 100 minutes, I set a timer for 1 minute for each % and it's been pretty accurate, if it's on 20%, I need exactly an hour to get to 80%
I use my headsets every single day and charge to 100% and leave it on the charger. Not once did I ever have a headset battery go bad within the life span of the headset. This isn’t even worth worrying about.
Do you think you are immune to physics? Batteries degrade, these tips are meant to reduce degradation and extend the life which they can provide charge, not stop them from "going bad" Your headset cannot hold the same amount of charge now as it did when it was brand new, these tips will extend the life of the battery
@@Whatisrock237 It's not about being immune to physic. But battery degradation takes time, and the timespan until it actually matters is usually longer than the life span of a Quest 3. Which for me is until Quest 4 release.
Ditto, mine lives on its dock and I have no issues, the headset was short battery life brand new until I got my battery head strap so don’t really care. By the time my q3 starts ditching it’ll be time to get a q4 anyway.
Gteat video! Just when i thought you were finishing, you list many more great ideas to preserve battery. Even using headphones instead of the speakers help and i never thought about this :)
i bought an 20W and the battery didnt discharge so I switched back to the stock 18W so it could still drain slower... If I do it right and when the battery is lower It can charge instead of drain...
@@GTduzIt It depends on many factors. What game you are playing and what state the battery, headset is. Because it might hold charge at 100% easy even with 18W power but start draining with the exact same charger if you plug it at 50% and the headset is hot, already limiting charge speed. And btw, these 'battery saving' techniques show in the video will not help. Quest is designed to brake, and battery will degrade simply from high temperatures while playing and especially charging at the same time too.
I charge my quest while I play a lot sometimes. Like Asgards Wrath or anything that just immerses me.. I have a spot in my house with a office chair right beside a outlet just for this☺️. I'm trying to stop doing this tho. Good video, I needed to hear this 💯☺️
Hallo. You dont need to disconnect bobovrS3 cable : just press the Button 3 seconds and it dont charching your q3 and longer so the Power Comes from q3 International accu .
Thanks, and nice confirmation! My old (10 ton heavy (sigh) and from the first pokemon go times, which I then never played) power bank has the perfect values. Might check for a lighter one later. (Can't find the links here, btw.)
I dont charge my Quest 3. I bought a 6ft cord and a 140W powerbank and use it like the Apple Vision Pro. I only deal with charging the powerbank. The Quest is programmed not to draw more than 22W while charging so it doesn’t matter what powerbank you use. Get a higher wattage bank so you can play intensive games without drawing much power
All that plugging and unplugging the quest will damage the charging port. Luckily the battery headstrap I have maintains the power level. I can use the mq3 for about 8 hours before I completely run out of power.
Ok so it’s 2 hours of playing from 100% to 0% but you have to start charge it when it’s 40% and stop charging when it’s 80% 😂 so what is real playing time? 48 minutes 😂😂😂
Thanks Tetiana for the video. It has more than just basics about charging/discharging. I have Meta Elite Strap (they sent upgrade without request) for Q3 and it does not work as you said. It keeps my Q3 charged 100% until strap battery goes empty, then Q3 battery starts to drop. So I am bit worried about having headset battery 100% long time. After VR session, I put both on charge if Q3 is missing energy. But if it's (almost) full, I charge strap battery only, Q3 cable disconnected. And I keep strap battery disconnected when both have charge enough and it's powered off.
1:12 - No, never experienced such an issue. One year old device should hold enough power. This counts for Android & iPhones too. If it's "significantly" discharging, then it's a HW error or a SW issue, but certainly not a normal scenario 🤔 4:31 - Completely disagree with this segment. Discharging & charging at the same time puts a lot of stress/heat on the battery. Occasionally it's okay, but doing this all year? Asking for trouble. If your device is older & discharging fast than its acceptable to use it with a power bank but again, its not a solution just a way to avoid buying a new battery & paying for a technician to replace your dying Quest battery inside the device 🫡 7:46 - Another funny segment. First, she says overcharging is not an issue (true), then she says you should unplug it before 100% (long term), which is also true, but unplugging above 90% is not effective. 80% is the right amount, but that's not enough power for 2 hours of gaming, so... don't bother with it. Sooner or later you will have to change the battery, its the same as with smartphones or any device which uses battery power 🤷♂
The moment you bring a headstrap with battery into the mix it I feel these rules are harder to follow. When I play, I usually play until my headstrap is about 75% drained. My headset is usually on 100% this whole time. I play in small bursts and now I think about it, quite a lot of PCVR, which doesn't degrade the battery as quickly. Should I not charge my headstrap battery and sometimes drain the headset itself or not? I kind of thought it's better to damage/degrade my headstrap battery than the headset.
I have an app for my android phone that alerts me when it goes above or below a set point. They should make an app for the Quest that does that, or better yet Meta should put that in the settings.
I have a link cable that supports external power, I use a 45watt brick and keeps it fully charged for as long as I want to play. I usually run the cable up my pant leg and shirt, so that it sticks out where my foot is and I just step over top of it, then it comes out the neck of my shirt. I almost never even notice I'm cabled in anymore.
I also have the S3 Pro from BoboVR. I have been wondering if it is behaving normal. Playing walkabout Minigolf keeps my headset at 82% and stays at 82% . It does not charge it more. I thought it slowly charges it to 100% ? But it doesn't. When playing PCVR with Virtual Desktop at highest settings it very slowly discharges. It can't hold it. It is warmer where I am at, what could be a safety feature from the Quest 3? I'm just not sure if this is a normal behavior from the S3 Pro. What is your experience with it? Is this a normal behavior?
No, 100% digital charge is a soft cap put in place by the manufacturer. A digitally “full” battery is an 85-90% charged actual capacity of the physical battery. This is done as a safeguard to prevent overcharging failure on most consumer devices.
I got a quest 2(for about a year), while playing on virtual desktop my quest went from 100 to 0 in 60 ish minutes, im so paranoid i have done something wrong
Bro make a factory reset. It worked wonders. Games run better, no lagging... it was about 30% better and the batterie time now is also much better. And buy a Q3 (not the s!)
with a 10w powerbank your just slowing the battery drain slightly quest 3 needs 18w to charge and during use pulls around 20w or higher a 25w powerbank should keep the device running much longer without much drain anker powercore10000 powerbank generates 25w . hope this helps someone
am I using a vr headset or raising a baby here ? I'm not doing any of that stuff and idc how bad the battery gets. by the time it dies, or gets to the point of annoyingly low use time, there will be a quest 4 to buy or if not, 3rd party batteries for quest 3 will be out and about for me to buy and replace the old one.
What about playing connected to the stock wall charger? Is this bad for battery health? When I tried to do this, a message pop up on my screen: "Liquid & Debris Error"
This is why i use the bobovr S3 pro: i only use the battery when the headset is on, just to keep it between 40-80% and when i stop playing, i just pop out the battery...
Yes, the way I do it is I simply disconnect the cable - that way then you’re ready to start charging again, you don’t need to look for the battery, just pop in the cable!
You would think there’d be a “optimize charging” option that would only allow it to work between 80-20%. 80% would show 100% and 20% would show 0% But they’d rather have you pay to replace the batteries.
hello I have a question. lets say my charging bank makes my quest 3 charge faster than it loses power while playing. Could I just turn on higher graphics settings such as 120 hz so that it loses power faster and the battery percentage stays in one spot?
I don't know. This sounds a lot more alarming than it probably is. I'll just stick to overcharging my headset. I dont want to constantly be monitoring numbers.
I play with a battery pack so my headset is always at 100%. I'm certainly not going to plug and unplug the pack to keep the headset between 20 and 80%. By the time the HS battery is dead, I'll be due for another one anyway. I like to keep life simple...
let's be honest here. If you're using a quest 3, you know how good it is and you love the time you've spent with it and you had the money to drop 550€ , then you will buy the quest 4 when it releases in 2-3 years. Or the quest pro 2 for 1500€ , it depends of how much you want it or not. Quest and all vr headsets are a LUXURY item, if you got one because you want to play vr games or do vrchat or whatever you have in mind, you will buy the next cool thing in a few years and you know it. So charge the battery as how she says it unless it's annoying, it doesn't really matter, you will buy the next one.
I can't believe this: keeping the charging level between 20 and 80%? So why in the first place do you have a 100 and 0% capacity? Why not make batteries with 120 and -20% levels? In this way you charge between 100 and 0%. Anyway, I have an extra battery attached and my battery is still good after a 1 year of usage.
Hello I charge it with the original adapter and use it normally. It charges while playing games, but the charge percentage slowly decreases. It neither stays the same nor increases. I'm starting to think there is a problem with my device. While charge with 5 Meters USB-A to Type-C cable headset info "Slowly charging" same as PC USB I mostly use PCVR. It charges and plays via USB with a cable. The charging times are not sufficient. Does anyone have a problem like me or know a solution?
What so you play? it depends on the game. Mixed reality draina the battery slowly. 120 hz mode? Did you tinker with sidequest and the resolution? I use a 100Watt brick. Should draw arround 18Watts.
@Raptorialand Default settings not changed. I usually play Les mills Body Combat in MR. Maximum play time around 90-100 minutes with full brightness. PCVR was a painfull for me but last updates solve my main problem.
Just got my quest three yesterday but I ran across your videos i can really appreciate the deep dive you go into in your video s thank you for doing a really good job much help have a blessed day ❤
Don't let it drop past 20 only charge until 80 ? What's the battery life if you follow these rules 30 mins ? Hell no charge it Al the way use it all the way if battery fails it's a defect and held under warranty
unfortunately not accurate about new battery tech for this video to be very useful - 20-80 is wrong, it is correct for the battery itself, but you have more than the battery in the device, it has a controller attached that takes care of this; going down to 0 is fine and so is 100, though some people swear by 95ish - 8 watt charging is wrong; the official charging is 18W and that's what you want, no more (it will be ignored and has caused melted ports in the past) and no less; even if, most powerbanks do not provide their full rating on one output, so choosing this way is incorrect - overcharging is a fixed problem, the battery controller prevents it, period - speed of charging is irrelevant to battery health, what does matter is the heat loss generated, as temperature rises do cause damage; new phones charging at 100W+ do not experience any more damage than previous slow charging - fyi: power saving mode does have a big impact on performance
Not quite true, I mean it's true that fast charging your devices will shorten the battery life. BUT the Quest 3 even at 65W, drains the batteries faster than it charges.
These are completely over exaggerated claims. Charging above 80% does not do "significant damage" to the battery. It's just part of normal battery degradation, it's not nearly as dire as you portray it. A shameful attempt to sell affiliate-linked equipment.
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I agree. It would be nice if meta would release an update that would give us the option to charge the headset to only 80%. Most phones have that feature. That way, you can leave the battery pack connected while you use the headset without worrying about over changing it.
For about 10 dollars you could get a plug-in timer switch for the wall. TC
I always wondered why my iPhone stopped charging at 80% but still slowly charged. this video makes sense
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There is still some misconception for almost all lithium battery devices nowadays: One your device is showing 0% battery level, it's in reality inside the lithium battery still 20% of charge, because the charging electronics inside the device (BMS=Battery Management System) take care of it.. It's like the tare function on a scale, it's scaled on the devices.. Therefor you usually never need to worry about discharging to 0%
As Doc Brown would put it: “Great Scott! When a device shows 0% battery, the voltage is still around 3.2 volts! There’s still a little energy between the state of deep discharge which is below 2.5V, but it’s not used to avoid battery damage.
A typical phone battery with 3000 mAh at 0% still has about 5% left, around 150 mAh!
Marty, you should charge it at 20% to prolong its lifespan, and don’t leave it fully charged for too long because it shortens the lifespan!“
Quest should have a charge limit built into the software like new phones and laptops have nowadays.
Seriously
WHAT?! Why would it have such an incredibly basic function.
@@TheLogreal 😂
It's called BMS, and its hardware.
@@netshaman9918 BMS can only do so much. Even fancy EVs that use NMC chemistry say not to charge past 80 on a regular basis and don’t discharge under 20. I have a Kia ev6 and that’s what I’ve been doing unless I go on long road trips and I have 0 degradation on the battery after 40,000 miles. And that bms is way more advance with active cooling and heating than a quest 3 bms.
While this is all true, IMO it's more trouble than it's worth. In my experience, by the time it really starts to degrade significantly you're ready for a new headset anyway. And even if it does degrade, as you said there are headstrap batteries, battery banks, etc, so just use these to keep it going when you're battery life degrades too much. I dunno. There's probably some value in doing all this stuff if you're on a shoestring budget, you want your Quest to last 4+ years, and even buying a battery bank would stress you out. Other than that though, I think the Nuisance of having to always be worrying about this stuff outweighs the benefits. I just leave mine on the charger, always have it connected to my headstrap battery, and when the headstrap battery degrades I'll just replace the headstrap. Just my own personal opinion, ymmv
That is why BMC exists. % values have nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with V and A values. And a proper BMC should negate most of the issues mentioned here. 100% there is a bmc in quest. BMC stands for battery management control and the max and min values of charde/discharge are monitored by it, so the no way you can do some stupid thing like overcharging or deep discharging the battery. If that was not so there would be a lot more house fires related to quest usage AS DAMAGED BATTERIES START FIRES OR EXPLODE in many cases. The ones in quest are the ones that are the fire explody boomy ones that is why 20-80 % is not true as the dangerous "values are cut off" by BMC so your face will not get damaged by using a headset
You're absolutely correct. The BMC stops charging the battery once the appropriate state of charge of charge has been reached or if temperature threshold as been hit. These batteries will eventually fail no matter what and not all batteries will perform the same. Just enjoy the device while it works and upgrade/repair when needed.
Very good video! A topic nobody else have done. 👍🏻
Glad you liked it!
The power of power banks is not quite as you say. A power bank can have a power of e.g. 30W, but 3 USB outputs and each output has a power limit of 10W. 10W will not be enough to stop the Quest 3 from discharging. The Quest 3 charges with a maximum voltage of 9V and a current of 2A, which gives 9Vx2A = 18W. Therefore, the power bank must support PD (Power Delivery) and offer more than 18W at the output for a single USB port. Each power bank contains such information on the casing. To stop discharging (or at least slow it down significantly) in the Quest 3, about 25-30W is required - there must be a power reserve, because there are no devices with 100% efficiency. I have a 50W power bank, which easily maintains the battery at 75-80% until the power bank discharges.
This. A ballpark of 18W-minimum is what I have been seeing everywhere, so this 8W number was very confusing.
Excellent video! And of course, worth waiting for. I’m one of those people who play on the Quest 3 with a battery headstrap and then place it in a charger until I’m ready to play again. I’m sure I’m doing damage to the headset by doing this. Just can’t find the time to check the battery and determine if I should charge it or leave it off the charger. But thanks to your hard work I will take the time to preserve my hard-earned Quest 3….thanks again for a great video DiscoVR! ❤️
Thank you for watching! 😃
This is why I don't mind displayport-tethered headsets, like my Reverb G2. I also really like that the controllers use normal AA batteries. No issue finding replacement batteries in the long run. I was looking forward using this headsets for a decade or perhaps even more. Unfortunately Microsoft didn't feel the same as they discontinued support for WMR in Windows 11. Now I put my hopes in the community instead! Why can't we have nice things that last anymore!?
The responsibility is shifted to the consumers to take better care of their devices, and I'm assuming corporations benefit if consumers buy new products rather than fix old ones 💁♀️ and oh well, with QUests coming up with new headsets every 1-2 years, users may just upgrade instead!
@@DiscoVRTetiana yeah, that's definitely the model companies go by these days; disposable tech... It's a real shame to be honest. Especially since meta don't earn money from the headsets themselves... This video however is much needed to keep those headsets lasting longer!
If you use your device for a decade, how can they sell you new ones?
I could never go back to those god-awful Reverb G2 xmas tree controllers, they were absolutely crap. The Quest 3 controllers are ring-less, and the tracking is just superior to that G2 rubbish. The G2 had superb image quality, but those controllers were so bad I actually smashed mine against a wall in anger, had to end up getting a pre-owned pair off of eBay.
Hi there. You're partially right on this. The way lithium ion batteries do work how you're saying. But it doesn't affect batteries the same way it once did. You're blending some almost urban myths of older batteries mixed with the new. Before the newer generation of tech. And by that. I mean everything after probably the iphone2, samsung galaxy 3. They changed the way chargers charge in order to provide better longevity for Lithium Ion batteries. That's why you're supposed to use the charger meant for whatever device you're using. What they do now as long as the charger is plugged in is let the battery go down just ever slightly, then begins charging automatically again. This is to prevent over saturation of the battery. They've now just come up with solid state batteries that will soon be replacing lithium ion batteries in everything. But we've made large leaps in battery longevity. I've had my note S 22 ultra since it's released and I can still go 2-3 days without charging it. It also depends on the user, and how respondisble they are with their devices.
I always play with q3 wall plugged. Great video like always
isn't it dangerous? Wasn't there a kid who got badly burned doing that?
Same
bro why would you do this 😂 it's literally meant to be standalone, cables ruin your movements and the liberty of vr in some cases
Same. When playing stuff like Asgards Wrath 2 and AC Nexus, the battery drains so fast that if you want to play for a couple of hours you have to leave it wall plugged. I don't mind i'm used to tethered as i'm a PSVR 2 user as well
Thank you, I was wondering about this 👍
I've been keeping this up since I bought it, I saw back then that it takes 1 hr and 40 minutes to charge, so 100 minutes, I set a timer for 1 minute for each % and it's been pretty accurate, if it's on 20%, I need exactly an hour to get to 80%
I use my headsets every single day and charge to 100% and leave it on the charger. Not once did I ever have a headset battery go bad within the life span of the headset. This isn’t even worth worrying about.
I agree.
Do you think you are immune to physics? Batteries degrade, these tips are meant to reduce degradation and extend the life which they can provide charge, not stop them from "going bad"
Your headset cannot hold the same amount of charge now as it did when it was brand new, these tips will extend the life of the battery
@@Whatisrock237 It's not about being immune to physic. But battery degradation takes time, and the timespan until it actually matters is usually longer than the life span of a Quest 3. Which for me is until Quest 4 release.
@@fakewarszerogood point. Meta will kill the Quest 3 one or two years after Quest 4. By then most users will still have at least 70% battery capacity.
Ditto, mine lives on its dock and I have no issues, the headset was short battery life brand new until I got my battery head strap so don’t really care. By the time my q3 starts ditching it’ll be time to get a q4 anyway.
Gteat video! Just when i thought you were finishing, you list many more great ideas to preserve battery. Even using headphones instead of the speakers help and i never thought about this :)
Haha yeah I had many tricks up in my sleeve in this video 😆
Would be much easier if you could limit the charging of the battery automatically. Like a Eco+ mode.
Thanks for the video chocked full of useful information.
your so clever at figuring all this out and providing solutions :)
i bet this video is helping so many people
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Quest 3 can draw over 20W of power and still loose charge.. plugging 10W power bank will always discharge your quest just slower than without it.
i bought an 20W and the battery didnt discharge so I switched back to the stock 18W so it could still drain slower... If I do it right and when the battery is lower It can charge instead of drain...
@@GTduzIt It depends on many factors. What game you are playing and what state the battery, headset is. Because it might hold charge at 100% easy even with 18W power but start draining with the exact same charger if you plug it at 50% and the headset is hot, already limiting charge speed.
And btw, these 'battery saving' techniques show in the video will not help. Quest is designed to brake, and battery will degrade simply from high temperatures while playing and especially charging at the same time too.
Great information. Awesome Channel. I live by these rules now and my Quest 2 and 3 are still going strong!
Amazing!
I charge my quest while I play a lot sometimes.
Like Asgards Wrath or anything that just immerses me..
I have a spot in my house with a office chair right beside a outlet just for this☺️.
I'm trying to stop doing this tho.
Good video, I needed to hear this 💯☺️
Hallo. You dont need to disconnect bobovrS3 cable : just press the Button 3 seconds and it dont charching your q3 and longer so the Power Comes from q3 International accu .
if using a long usb-cabel -the loading goes for instance from 1,8 A down to 0,9A -better for your batterie
This video is so informative! Great work.
Thank you!
Thanks, and nice confirmation! My old (10 ton heavy (sigh) and from the first pokemon go times, which I then never played) power bank has the perfect values. Might check for a lighter one later. (Can't find the links here, btw.)
Hey! The links are in the description and in the pinned comment. Hope you'll find something that suits you!
great show and content. i learned a lot
Excellent overview. Thank you ma'am
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, a very helpful video
Glad it was helpful!
I dont charge my Quest 3. I bought a 6ft cord and a 140W powerbank and use it like the Apple Vision Pro. I only deal with charging the powerbank. The Quest is programmed not to draw more than 22W while charging so it doesn’t matter what powerbank you use. Get a higher wattage bank so you can play intensive games without drawing much power
All that plugging and unplugging the quest will damage the charging port. Luckily the battery headstrap I have maintains the power level. I can use the mq3 for about 8 hours before I completely run out of power.
lol, the battery seems similar to a non-standard range Tesla Supposed to keep the battery btw 20-80%. 👍. Thanks for the tip!
Buy a head strap with battery. 😁
What a great video. Sincerely
Ok so it’s 2 hours of playing from 100% to 0% but you have to start charge it when it’s 40% and stop charging when it’s 80% 😂 so what is real playing time? 48 minutes 😂😂😂
Thanks Tetiana for the video. It has more than just basics about charging/discharging.
I have Meta Elite Strap (they sent upgrade without request) for Q3 and it does not work as you said. It keeps my Q3 charged 100% until strap battery goes empty, then Q3 battery starts to drop. So I am bit worried about having headset battery 100% long time.
After VR session, I put both on charge if Q3 is missing energy. But if it's (almost) full, I charge strap battery only, Q3 cable disconnected. And I keep strap battery disconnected when both have charge enough and it's powered off.
Nice video
1:12 - No, never experienced such an issue. One year old device should hold enough power. This counts for Android & iPhones too. If it's "significantly" discharging, then it's a HW error or a SW issue, but certainly not a normal scenario 🤔
4:31 - Completely disagree with this segment. Discharging & charging at the same time puts a lot of stress/heat on the battery. Occasionally it's okay, but doing this all year? Asking for trouble. If your device is older & discharging fast than its acceptable to use it with a power bank but again, its not a solution just a way to avoid buying a new battery & paying for a technician to replace your dying Quest battery inside the device 🫡
7:46 - Another funny segment. First, she says overcharging is not an issue (true), then she says you should unplug it before 100% (long term), which is also true, but unplugging above 90% is not effective. 80% is the right amount, but that's not enough power for 2 hours of gaming, so... don't bother with it. Sooner or later you will have to change the battery, its the same as with smartphones or any device which uses battery power 🤷♂
The moment you bring a headstrap with battery into the mix it I feel these rules are harder to follow. When I play, I usually play until my headstrap is about 75% drained. My headset is usually on 100% this whole time. I play in small bursts and now I think about it, quite a lot of PCVR, which doesn't degrade the battery as quickly.
Should I not charge my headstrap battery and sometimes drain the headset itself or not? I kind of thought it's better to damage/degrade my headstrap battery than the headset.
I have an app for my android phone that alerts me when it goes above or below a set point. They should make an app for the Quest that does that, or better yet Meta should put that in the settings.
I have a link cable that supports external power, I use a 45watt brick and keeps it fully charged for as long as I want to play. I usually run the cable up my pant leg and shirt, so that it sticks out where my foot is and I just step over top of it, then it comes out the neck of my shirt. I almost never even notice I'm cabled in anymore.
I also have the S3 Pro from BoboVR. I have been wondering if it is behaving normal. Playing walkabout Minigolf keeps my headset at 82% and stays at 82% . It does not charge it more. I thought it slowly charges it to 100% ? But it doesn't. When playing PCVR with Virtual Desktop at highest settings it very slowly discharges. It can't hold it. It is warmer where I am at, what could be a safety feature from the Quest 3? I'm just not sure if this is a normal behavior from the S3 Pro. What is your experience with it? Is this a normal behavior?
Power bank for quest 3...
Higher or lower than 18 watt...?
No, 100% digital charge is a soft cap put in place by the manufacturer. A digitally “full” battery is an 85-90% charged actual capacity of the physical battery. This is done as a safeguard to prevent overcharging failure on most consumer devices.
They should add a setting that many phones and laptops now have to force the headset to stop receiving charge past 80%.
So manufacturers should take this in to accoubt and show is 80 percent as 100. And 0 as 40 percent. Then use a suitable battery to last 2 hours.
I got a quest 2(for about a year), while playing on virtual desktop my quest went from 100 to 0 in 60 ish minutes, im so paranoid i have done something wrong
Bro make a factory reset. It worked wonders. Games run better, no lagging... it was about 30% better and the batterie time now is also much better.
And buy a Q3 (not the s!)
with a 10w powerbank your just slowing the battery drain slightly
quest 3 needs 18w to charge and during use pulls around 20w or higher
a 25w powerbank should keep the device running much longer without much drain
anker powercore10000 powerbank generates 25w . hope this helps someone
am I using a vr headset or raising a baby here ? I'm not doing any of that stuff and idc how bad the battery gets. by the time it dies, or gets to the point of annoyingly low use time, there will be a quest 4 to buy or if not, 3rd party batteries for quest 3 will be out and about for me to buy and replace the old one.
What about playing connected to the stock wall charger? Is this bad for battery health? When I tried to do this, a message pop up on my screen: "Liquid & Debris Error"
This is why i use the bobovr S3 pro: i only use the battery when the headset is on, just to keep it between 40-80% and when i stop playing, i just pop out the battery...
Yes, the way I do it is I simply disconnect the cable - that way then you’re ready to start charging again, you don’t need to look for the battery, just pop in the cable!
You would think there’d be a “optimize charging” option that would only allow it to work between 80-20%. 80% would show 100% and 20% would show 0%
But they’d rather have you pay to replace the batteries.
I agree, that is what I first thought they did. but I was wrong. but your idea is what I would like to see
so if you are plugged in to pc to use pc for vr ,then you cant disconnect cable, is there a dont charge function when plugged in ?
Can i use more poverfull chargers on my quest
I load her only up when it's turned off . But soon I use a bobo accupack
i keep every devices with battery between 40 and 60 % if possible : vacum cleaner, phone, laptop, portable gaming console...
80% is the optimum for li-ion
@@aonodensetsu it's still fine right?
hello I have a question. lets say my charging bank makes my quest 3 charge faster than it loses power while playing. Could I just turn on higher graphics settings such as 120 hz so that it loses power faster and the battery percentage stays in one spot?
Yup yup
I don't know. This sounds a lot more alarming than it probably is. I'll just stick to overcharging my headset. I dont want to constantly be monitoring numbers.
I play with a battery pack so my headset is always at 100%. I'm certainly not going to plug and unplug the pack to keep the headset between 20 and 80%. By the time the HS battery is dead, I'll be due for another one anyway. I like to keep life simple...
Спасибо
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4:06 Does the bobovr s3 pro stop charging when the headset is at 70% battery?
let's be honest here.
If you're using a quest 3, you know how good it is and you love the time you've spent with it and you had the money to drop 550€ , then you will buy the quest 4 when it releases in 2-3 years.
Or the quest pro 2 for 1500€ , it depends of how much you want it or not.
Quest and all vr headsets are a LUXURY item, if you got one because you want to play vr games or do vrchat or whatever you have in mind, you will buy the next cool thing in a few years and you know it.
So charge the battery as how she says it unless it's annoying, it doesn't really matter, you will buy the next one.
Just bought the q3.
It's amazing...
No i never bought the oculus go, q1...q2 ...
Ok ... i did XD
Wouldn't be an issue if Meta made the battery replaceable.
Great advice , thank you !
I can't believe this: keeping the charging level between 20 and 80%? So why in the first place do you have a 100 and 0% capacity? Why not make batteries with 120 and -20% levels? In this way you charge between 100 and 0%.
Anyway, I have an extra battery attached and my battery is still good after a 1 year of usage.
because math does not care about you
100 hundredths is full and 0 hundredths is empty
i'm just worried about replacing the battery in the future tbh. end of the day all batteries die.
0:02 Nah. But my quest 3 has charged least the moment i got it
Hello
I charge it with the original adapter and use it normally. It charges while playing games, but the charge percentage slowly decreases. It neither stays the same nor increases. I'm starting to think there is a problem with my device.
While charge with 5 Meters USB-A to Type-C cable headset info "Slowly charging" same as PC USB
I mostly use PCVR. It charges and plays via USB with a cable. The charging times are not sufficient.
Does anyone have a problem like me or know a solution?
What so you play? it depends on the game.
Mixed reality draina the battery slowly. 120 hz mode? Did you tinker with sidequest and the resolution?
I use a 100Watt brick. Should draw arround 18Watts.
@Raptorialand Default settings not changed. I usually play Les mills Body Combat in MR. Maximum play time around 90-100 minutes with full brightness. PCVR was a painfull for me but last updates solve my main problem.
$150 dollars for a new battery replacement in the Oculus 3 ? That is not cheap - would it really cost that much?
So we can only use it for 30 minutes to keep it between 20 and 80%?
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I leave it plugged in while I'm using. And when I'm not using it, I unplug.
Just got my quest three yesterday but I ran across your videos i can really appreciate the deep dive you go into in your video s thank you for doing a really good job much help have a blessed day ❤
Don't let it drop past 20 only charge until 80 ? What's the battery life if you follow these rules 30 mins ? Hell no charge it Al the way use it all the way if battery fails it's a defect and held under warranty
I think a factory reset bricked my Quest 2s battery life.
Ok i'm just going to stop charging the damn thing! Oh, let me guess....that also drains the battery??? 😠
Wanna take care of ur battery, then don't use it 😂
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unfortunately not accurate about new battery tech for this video to be very useful
- 20-80 is wrong, it is correct for the battery itself, but you have more than the battery in the device, it has a controller attached that takes care of this; going down to 0 is fine and so is 100, though some people swear by 95ish
- 8 watt charging is wrong; the official charging is 18W and that's what you want, no more (it will be ignored and has caused melted ports in the past) and no less; even if, most powerbanks do not provide their full rating on one output, so choosing this way is incorrect
- overcharging is a fixed problem, the battery controller prevents it, period
- speed of charging is irrelevant to battery health, what does matter is the heat loss generated, as temperature rises do cause damage; new phones charging at 100W+ do not experience any more damage than previous slow charging
- fyi: power saving mode does have a big impact on performance
Ugh
Not quite true, I mean it's true that fast charging your devices will shorten the battery life. BUT the Quest 3 even at 65W, drains the batteries faster than it charges.
😅😂😂😂stop worrying start playing..
These are completely over exaggerated claims. Charging above 80% does not do "significant damage" to the battery. It's just part of normal battery degradation, it's not nearly as dire as you portray it.
A shameful attempt to sell affiliate-linked equipment.
You’re right, I’m definitely breaking a bank with that 1% commission on a $20 power supply 🤑 congratulations on revealing my evil plan and the true goal of this video 👏
Bullshit
Drama
i dont have this quest 3.... pretty sure the experience is bettter then psvr 2.
Work harder then you can afford nice things
Great video thank you!