The Ultimate Ford Super Duty Leveling Kit
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Looking for the best 2.5" leveling system to fit 37's on your 2017+ Ford Super Duty? The Carli Suspension 2.5" Pintop is just about as good as it gets. Improve ride quality in a massive way while getting the look you want. Oh and with the add a pack rear leaf set up, there is ZERO impact to payload or towing capacity from the suspension, just improved handling!
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CJC Off Road I just did
Could I run this with stock 20inch wheels ?
how do i get no trimming or rubbing with factory radius arms. running the 2.5 pintop with tire size 37x13.50r20, also what offset and backspace do i need on the rim. thank you???
I bought this Carli 2.5" leveling kit for my 2017 Ford Super Duty from CJC's online store. This kit is hands down the most robust and best handling kit I have seen. Yes, this isn't the cheapest kit out, but you do get what you pay for! Also, CJC was awesome when I needed some after installation support. Its nice when a shop will spend a few minutes with you even if they didn't do the installation.
How much is the cost for the kit
@@edog92374 With all the upgrades, it comes out to $7,820ish on Carli's website.
@@milescullom626 the wheels and tires alone are more than $3500
For a 2 1/2" level .... 8 G ?
Ain't that a bit much ?
It looks nice and better be top notch ride for towing 10;000 lbs and luxury riding . Is it ?
Perfect look. Classy and capable. I think with some airbags on the rear it would be the ultimate set up for the work/weekend fun truck. Thanks for the video.
Freaking awesome, getting my Carli King Top kit in May, on new F 350 longbed.makes such a huge difference towing, trailing, and climbing hills at Bell Mountain in Barstow, and Johnson Valley.
Yes! Uniball joints are so great to listen to as soon as they wear out in 3 months. Love the squeaky joint
You must not be familiar with Carli’s build quality!
I agree, anything smaller than 37s on a F250 is small
Forgot they added Blue Jeans to the Platinum super duties. New 2019 color for Platinum super duty. Had a 2014 f150 Limited in Blue Jeans in my senior year in high school. Just 2 years old too. Was Still new and still top of the line like the newer ones still are today.
It feels weird listening to Toby from the office talk about trucks stuff
The absolute best! They didn't miss a step on this kit...... Add airbags.
Man that looks good, great info on product quality..
Price to have this leveling kit installed?
"Upper overload" doesn't come into play until 3in. of rear travel, would have to be one hell of a bump to cycle the rear that much, you lost me on removing it. Love the videos and the builds!!!
Yes why in the WORLD would you remove the upper overloads? Also, i would flip the lower two lower leafs on carli add a pack, to engage sooner, deleting the 2 small lower spacers, but KEEPING the lift blocks. some of us haul heavy, hence the reason we bought a F350.
These get a lot more than 3 inches of rear travel....
All the requirements of a higher lift in a level kit. More expense but done right.... :-)
The 1520s look just right. I went to their website to see about colors and their wheels are all 17” dia. How did you guys manage the 20” dia wheels? The 20s look so much better with the 37s. The Carli is a detailed and well made leveling kit 👍
Unfortunately they’re having some supply chain issues, so a lot of their HD wheels aren’t on the site anymore.
I need one for my 2020 f 350
At 0:51, bro, don't look at the camera...haha. Good video.
Beautiful Truck!!
i would say the same with icons leveling kit i had the carli 2.5 on my last truck loved it no hate at all. i went with a icon stage 5 kit and its just as good in everyway but i wouldnt go any other leveling kit period beside these 2
My mind says yes, but my pocket says no
Mavros Pavlidis I here that. Especially when people want a $15,000 for a 20 year old ranger or Tacoma haha let alone this $90k beast
@@taylorelsner6332 Story of my life, should I keep my diesel and add a kit or return it and buy a ranger cash.
Do you like the stabilizer you used on this truck or dual stabilizers best?
Why buy an F350 just to remove the overload spring and turn it into an F250?
350 also comes with a bigger axel. Least on the 2020 models. 4" instead of a 3.5. Also, when your spending 85k, plus 15k in after market lift and wheels, whats another $1500???
All that rust bothers me on such a new truck.
@darkjedi351 as much as we spend for a F350 u would think... just bought a 19 f350 platty.
Looks kinda tight in the front if you were going to try and fit some mudflaps.
What is the offset on those wheels and were any trimming required? I am working with Carli on a 2.5 or 4.5 kit for my 2020 f350 once it comes in. I am looking at 37/12.5./20 with a 0 offset.
That’s exactly what this truck has. 0 offset 20x9 with 37/12.5. We have a video on our channel that shows exactly what trimming is needed!
CJC Off Road Awesome thanks I have seen that was hoping none was needed. Do you know if the 4.5 lift they offer would get me away from trimming?
For some who pulls a 10k pound rv occasionally what would be better and what would you recommend a add a pack or full deaver with long travel airbags
Can I still run my airlift ultimate 5k airbags on the rear with this kit and not worry about over extending them at full flex? I tow a 15k lbs Fifth Wheel and need them to keep squat to a minimum.
We'd recommend the Carli long travel air bags since they still allow for full articulation. www.cjcoffroad.com/Carli-Long-Travel-Air-Bag-System-2017-Super-Duty-p/cs-fltb-17.htm
So my question is.. will I be ok to pull my 5th wheel with 37s? With only a 2.5 leveling kit in front
That depends on you selecting tires with a high enough weight capacity, your truck's factory gearing, and the weight of the trailer.
@@CJCOffRoad I meant was ..that o was told I had to get rid of my 12 Silverado because it was too high.. 7.5 inch lift with 37s. Now with this 19 ford I understand 37s with no lift should still keep my 5th wheel level. Is this true?
That all depends on how tall your trailer is-there’s a lot of variation. You can do the math pretty easily to figure it out though.
@@CJCOffRoad this system exactly as shown including the tires/wheels on a 17 f250 platinum. How much installed complete?
Have been looking at this kit for my f250, thanks for the info. Do you guys have any experience with king's coil overs? If so, why didn't you decide to go with the coil overs if price wasn't an issue?
The issue with bolt in OEM replacement coil overs is two fold. For one, they are off the shelf shocks, so they don't have the custom tuning for your individual truck that these Carli shocks do, and as a result the ride quality suffers. Second, the bolt in OEM replacement coil overs result in a reduction in travel compared to stock, and far less than a system like this that utilizes the factory spring perch and suspension design to maximize travel.
My 2020 F350 Platinum Tremor is coming in next month. I've looked at all of the Carli kits and I'm trying to decide how much of an improvement just the basic Carli leveling kit is over stock, Carli backcountry vs. stock, and then backcountry vs. pintop, etc. I dont pull massive traillers very often, and I dont 'live' offroad--both are less common occurances for me. Thoughts?
Give us a call and we can walk you through things or answer any questions you have!
Could you use a drop bracket instead of the adjustable trac bar?
Yes but it wouldn't fix the issue with these stock cheap track bars that do not last. The track bar is the most overlooked part on trucks. Plus CJC says the Carli track bar is a lot more tough and quality built. I had to get my track bar replaced at 60k miles because the joints warn out and it was moving a lot. luckily I have warranty. But id definitely do the track bar when the day comes for that lol
Looking for a SAFE leveling kit for a 2017 F250. Having a problem with horse trailer getting very close to tailgate of truck. Air Lift is one of our sponsors for our nonprofit equine assisted therapy program and A few years ago they called us up and donated air bags to the program. We travel all over to schools, churches and hospitals. Is there a simple and safe kit to raise the frontend to keep from damaging the truck????
That will not stop contact with the bed since the rear height of the truck is staying the same. You need to move to a different trailer, or raise the trailer ride height!
@@CJCOffRoad The distance from front of trailer and bed of truck at the gooseneck is perfect but from the trailer to tailgate is 2 inches shorter. Raising the front wont equal out?
What kind of back spacing on the rims and how far do the tires stick out past the finder ? This is a nice set up . I just bought a f350 short bed
You can see it in the end of the video, but the tires have a mild poke. These wheels are 0 offset and 5" backspace
Why no Chevy/GMC kits? I would love to put your stuff on my L5P
IFS
Miles Cullom nuff said
CJC. What are the specs on the rims. Offset mainly? Thanks
These wheels are 20x9 with 0 offset, 4.75 backspace!
Any options for 2019 F250 2WD? Leveled or small 2.5" lift.
Sadly Carli only has 4wd suspension offerings
how do i get no trimming or rubbing with factory radius arms. running the 2.5 pintop with tire size 37x13.50r20, also what offset and backspace do i need on the rim. thank you???
You want a wheel with 0 offset that's no wider than 9" to clear the factory radius arms. You will always need to trim the fender liner for 37" tire fitment however.
Hi. If I buy one of your leveling kits can I have my ford dealer install it or do I need you guys too? Truck is in Canada.
Thanks Dan.
Any reputable shop can install it!
How much is the total cost for this kit. Will be installing in my 19 alumiduty
@darkjedi351 WHOA!! Pricey!!
@@jasonw9431 cheap, reliable, effective. choose two.
Just go watch the multiple videos of Carli equipped Ford and Ram 3/4 & 1 ton trucks and you'll realize why the kits are so expensive. While companies like BDS, Fabtech and McGaughys make really nice stuff, they really can't offer what Carli does in a bolt on application. Really hope to have a Carli equipped truck myself someday.
Yes you guys are right Carli suspension is expensive but this is just a leveling kit. Right? Correct me if I’m wrong. Pricey for a leaving kit. I’m better of going with the pin top 4inch lift with the king shocks.
Most leveling kits simply lift the front of the truck and do nothing else. This is a suspension system that dramatically improves ride and handling by replacing the suspension on the truck, and also levels the front.
Looks awesome... :-)
Does this truck have the long bed @ CJC
Drago Prari yes it’s long (8 foot)
Nice
Do these change the payload
Is that Antimatter Blue? Just saw the year this video came out. Or did they still have Blue Jeans back then?
This was Blue Jean from before antimatter was an option. Antimatter is a lot cooler!
@@CJCOffRoad Good to hear. I've contemplated the new Azure Gray Metallic Tri-coat on a Lariat since circumstances require I order a new truck, but that's $5 shy of a grand more. So I'm looking at a pretty loaded up XLT, with the same & a few more options than my '17 XLT in Blue Jeans, for about $5200 less than the Lariat. Wish they had the Baja with Black accent interior option in the XLT as I like how it brightens up the cab.
Just ordered a 2022 F-250 and as soon as I get it I want to put a leveling kit on. Will this kit work on the 2022? From what I've read not much has changed
Yep, it will work perfectly!
Where in Texas can your leveling kits be installed?
Shoot us an email to sales@cjcoffroad.com and we can get you set up with an installer!
what does everyone recommend for my f250? Leveling kit or lift kit?
Its what you like, what works for you... I personally don't like lift kits on newer trucks. Maybe a 4" on these 2017+ f250's is the maximum lift id like to see but that's my opinion. I think the taller the truck the more stupid the wheels and tires look, like a dude on steroids with chicken legs loooooooool.
@@ballacii fully agree haha
Who in las cruces, NM installs this kit?
How would this work for a plow? And do you have a lift to keep factory rake ?
In the rear
Those coils are not going to be able to handle a plow, you need to stay with stock snow plow prep springs and coil spacers. You can install F-550 snow plow prep coils, it will get you a little extra height and carry capacity.
@@SMiller5488 deffinetly don't need more carring capacity or a rougher ride
Guys can I throw 38s on a 2016 f250 with this kit
Will the add-a-pack improve unloaded, on-road (concrete freeway) ride quality on 2020 F-350? Getting lots of bucking.
It will, but it isn’t as dramatic of an improvement as the full spring pack Carli offers.
What does this upgrade cost?
what about just adding a block to rear for those of us who NEED to use thr truck and do not want the first 200 pounds to sag it because it already sits "level"???
That's easily done if needed.
Where are you guys located. I just bought a 7.3 2022 f250 lariat tremor addition and would like to level or maybe lift 2in
Long Beach, Ca but we ship globally!
What about those tires how are they on the highway?? I’ve been getting a lot of garbage from Les Schwab and so I just got tires today and I would rather have the ones on the truck you just done but they talked me in to get these other damn things.
They're much louder than the hybrid tires like the Nitro Ridge Grapplers or Toyo RT's, but they're still a very reliable tire with unmatched traction in the dirt! They drive just fine on the highway aside from the noise.
CJC Off Road thank you!
I’ve heard from a lot of scrubbing with the 2.5 kit and was told the 4.5 is better for 37s.. question how much trimming on a expensive new f250 will I have to do for the 2.5 kit?
Depending on the wheel and tire setup, almost no trimming can be required. With a 4.5 kit customers are running 38" and 40" tires.
@@CJCOffRoad how do i get no trimming or rubbing with factory radius arms. running the 2.5 pintop with tire size 37x13.50r20, also what offset and backspace do i need on the rim. thank you???
How much are these builds
Does this build maintain full payload and towing capacity?
Yes it does.
What’s the difference between f250 and f250 tremor package? Is it just suspension?
There's actually quite a bit different. In fact, the suspension is the smallest part of the differences. Check out Ford's website where they detail what's included in the package.
I have a 20 F250 7.3 gas coming in. I was going to get the Tremor package but I know a good set up from Carli will out ride the Tremor. I want to go to a 325 60 20 =35.4 or 295 65 20=35.1 vs what is coming on it..275 65 20=34. What is the best level system
Even the carli commuter system will out ride the Tremor from the factory! You’re fine doing a 35/12.5 or even a 37/13.5. Those fords have a ton of tire clearance in the fenders. As for which system is best, it all depends on how you’ll be using the truck. Just give us a call if you have any questions!
@@CJCOffRoad Ill give you a call this week. I have a 15 F350 w a 6" Pure Perf. lift Complete front to back w Fox 2.5 adj.shocks w 37 x 12.5's Ridge Grapplers...Love the truck and its been a great system but I believe Carli is better. I need to sell this in the next 2 months.
This new truck I just want to level put on the best shocks and 35's. Im doing some long road trips and being lower to the ground with the best ride is important to me.
Give us a call, we’re always happy to help!
Would a fifth wheel with a 2500 lb pin weight squat the rear? Would airbags be required to maintain a level stance? Thx
2500 pounds will be enough to squat a stock suspension truck so if you want to remain level at that weight, bags will be your best bet. Keep in mind you can still retain the factory rear leaf springs with this level if you choose, so your truck will keep the factory towing ability. One of our shop trucks is a 2018 Ford F-250 with the full replacement Carli pack,, and we have zero issues towing a large 5th wheel trailer with it. Despite the improved off-road ability, these trucks with the add a packs or even full rear packs still tow just fine!
Thank you for the info.
when I go down the road truck drives straight so alignment is perfect. When Im in the left lane steering wheel has to be turned to the right to go straight cause the road slopes to the left and same wheel turn slightly left on the right lane if it is banked...what can I do to fix this. Thanks.
There nothing you can do. That’s perfectly normal behavior when driving on off camber roads.
@@CJCOffRoad Ill get with you for some parts once my 20 Tremor arrives. Thanks
Would I be able to run 37x12.5 with stock f250 XLT rims and not rub tires on fenders or arms? (2019) or is different back spacing needed?
With factory wheels and those tires you’ll rub on the radius arms at full lock turning, but aside from that you’ll be fine!
@@CJCOffRoad thank you
how much tire can you get under the F250/350 if you use the 4.5" kit instead
We've had customers run 40's like the white truck on our TH-cam channel, but it does require moderate trimming.
What is the wheel and tires size on this truck and the brand of rim looks great
Tires are 37/12.5/20 and the wheels are 20x9 Fifteen52 Turbomac HD wheels.
CJC Off Road what was the off set of the rims I’m looking them up on custom offset and they only have them in a 0 offset would that work with this setup on 37 inch tires and this 2.5 leveling kit
CJC Off Road does this kit work on gas engine also or just diesel both kit the 2.5 and 4.5
Are there dealers in S. Florida for purchase and installation?
Absolutely! Shoot us an email to sales@cjcoffroad.com and we can help out!
Is that a short bed or long bed version? Looks balanced with those 37’s
this truck has an 8 foot bed, but 37's definitely look proportional on these trucks!
CJC Off Road 37s look great on your long bed! How do you like the long bed? Ever wish you had short bed or happy with long? I’m leaning towards a long bed whenever I buy one.
Is this a long bed truck?
It is!
Does this kit void your factory warranty
No it does not.
How do I get those wheels I can’t find them on your page or the fifteen52 page
Unfortunately right now they’re deeply back ordered. They’ll be back!
Will kickback mudflaps fit on the front or would they get hit/rub?
It depends on the flap and your tire combo, but with 37s you’ll most likely rub with a thick molded plastic mud flap.
@@CJCOffRoad I mean like the bulletproof kickback, not the thick plastic oem ones
Never used those so we aren’t sure!
Is there an offset on the wheels?
These are 0 offset, 9” wide wheels.
Do those tires rub
Does the truck need to be re-geared with the 37s?
That's ultimately up to the customer depending on their needs. If regular, heavy towing is part of the plan, then re-gearing is recommended. For most people pulling under 10k though it isn't a huge deal. It also depends on the starting gears of the truck. For example, someone with a 3:42 rear end will notice a far more dramatic change with 37's than someone that starts with factory 4:10 gears.
CJC Off Road can you get a 6.7 SRW Supercrew with those 4.10 gears? Ford website shuts me down when i turn on diesel and drops to 3.55 and I want this exact setup when I take delivery. Actually I want the tires tucked more
Smarter Than You why would you want the tires tucked more? Just out of curiosity....
If only these fifteen52 wheels weren’t discontinued
Will this setup still fit in my garage?
All depends on the garage and truck height.
Going to take a 8ft door, no way it will clear a 7ft door.
Great video but you’re a lot better off to replace the diff cover with a more robust one. This cover traps mud and salt and leads to corrosion in short order.
what is the offset of those wheels?
These are 0 offset, 4.74” backspace.
This is a lift. Do not buy cheap lift, you'll regret it I promise
Haven't you heard of Full Traction?
Cost on this complete package?
call or email us and we'll be happy to give you a quote for this set up!
way too much
Where do you get this kit
Right here assuming you have a 17+ Ford: www.cjcoffroad.com/Carli-2017-Ford-2-5-Leveling-Lift-Kits-s/2383.htm
Thank you
Whats the color name on tht truck?
Blue
Blue jeans
So these clear 37x12.5 on this level, am I going to run into issues with clearance if I go to a 35x14 wide tire?
It depends on wheel specs, but with a tire that wide you’ll definitely rub.
What kit would be equivalent for the 2015 F350 long wheel base 4x4 diesel?
Check out our website, we have plenty of systems available for your truck!
Carli is extremely good stuff, but get out your wallet!
Why are you calling it a leveling kit?
Because its not lifting the whole truck, only the front so it sits level with the rear.
Looks great, but when your towing without airbags at night, you will blind oncoming traffic.
Any tire rubbing after installation?
Zero after minimal trimming.
@@CJCOffRoad Curious what you trimmed on or up?
So, how much $$$ was the entire upgrade?
Total cost depends entirely on the options the customer chooses, so it's hard to give an estimate. You can always price out your build on our website.
All this to level a truck means $$$$$$ for the customer to pay.
What’s a “melt in” bushing? For fucks sake it’s called vulcanized. Oh and just because a certain part is aftermarket doesn’t mean it’s better. You guys are real adamant about people buying the arms when 90% of people don’t need them. It’s a 2” lift for crying outloud.. Just wanted to clear that up.
We have never said the arms are necessary. Simply that they’re stronger than factory, offer more tire clearance for 37s, and the joints are not even on the same playing field in terms of quality. If you like the factory arms and vulcanized bushings then run ‘em!
So what's the cost?
That all depends on the options selected. You can check everything out here: www.cjcoffroad.com/Suspension-s/1.htm
What's the cost of that package done in the video?
I guess if you need to ask how much for all that upgrade... you can't afford it.
Everything looked good till you put those wheels on.
Looks like a quality kit . But I don’t understand why people want leveling kits . Trucks come from the factory slightly higher in the back for a reason . With the truck level .. now when you have a load on or a trailer your squatted in the rear.. and at night blinding everyone with your skyward headlights . If you want to lift the truck a couple inches . It should be the same lift in the front as the rear .
75 percent of drivers driving these trucks have never towed a trailer or have a trailer.
Lol you think these guys are pulling trailers.
Bradley Beyer This truck pulls my 35ft fifth wheel,
Same trailer my 2012 Ram 3500 (with the Carli pintop 2.5) pulled.
Ever heard of air bags
Logan Ritter No,what is this sorcery you speak of? 🙄
Stuff is so overpriced anymore. it's disgusting. Just bc of a name . Not just this company, either . it's a lot of businesses that jack the price up bc of a name . What does $4500 get you ? I looked at the package, and i didn't have some of the stuff that's listed in the video. Plus, you want to charge anothe 1800 for leaf springs and such . Prices just keep going up as you add things you want .
I'd think for 4500, you would get everything it takes to do the job . That should be the high-end even . Looks like you get very little .
Plus, i agree with a few of these comments with the helper springs and such. Why take them or it out ? It doesn't travel that far just by hitting a dip or a pot hole if you are empty...
My apologies if I'm reading the site wrong , i hope i am, but i dont think so ... have a blessed day .
Never understood how these trucks cost so damn much money but don't come leveled from the factory...
I have learned that when it comes to performance, improvement, and functionalilty, don't take advice from people who play futuristic 80's porn music in the background... I'm just gonna throw some 35x12.5r20 TOYO AT2's on my stocker and save thousands of dollars without risking my vehicle and the rest of my wallet. q: - )
Where does over all height come in at the roof of truck? Need to know if it will still fit in my garage on 37’s. Is it too high to tow a 5th wheel at this height?
We just filmed a video about exactly that! Check out the 2.5 vs 4.5 Ford video on our channel.