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"Just because you can be more cruel does not make being cruel ethical as a result. We don't call it 'ethical bullying' when a bully decides to only bully two times a week rather than five times a week." 10000000000%
Vegan from Sweden here. The Swedish guy doesnt know what he's talking about. There's no difference in Sweden, they've all been exposed so it's the same here.
What if there was a hypothetical situation where it was even the right thing to do? Don't say "any" reason, say most reasons in this world. Overgeneralizing isn't good, if you care about accuracy and truth. Although it is a powerful statement
@KK-lg8uz I explained why and how you were wrong about everything you said in previous comments, but TH-cam deleted my comments. The research you mentioned is outdated, debunked by modern science. Paleo humans ate more plants than meat. Meat and animal fat did not make our brains larger. Proven false. Try researching against your own narrative and be enlightened..
@KK-lg8uz And now you want to argue with Kevin that eating meat and torturing animals aren't the same things. Wrong again. They're one and the same. Let someone skin you alive and tell me it's not torture. You are a weak, sick troll..
I watched a video of a woman returning home to her ranch where she raised Highland cattle. She called out into the field," Mama's home!" All these bulls came running to greet her and get pets, just like a pack of dogs. They loved her. In the comments she talked about how the more they are loved, the sweeter the meat. After 2 years of naming them, loving them and treating them like pets she sends them to slaughter. I don't get it. How could anyone do that? Those poor boys are sent to slaughter, they are terrified when they sense what is happening and they are looking for her to come save them. It was just devastating to think of.
It's remind me of a argument I often use against unabolitionist welfarist: Is it really better to kill an being that enjoy their life and the world around them, to rip it from them, than to kill a agonizing animal that only knew despair and pain? When you see a news report dealing with a (wo)man or a youth being killed by a serial killer or even in a (sadly current) car accident and that their family share how they were good human being "bright as the sun", "always smiling", "truly happy with the simple and calm life they lived" you feel even sadder for their sudden death. It shows their hypocrisy nicely I think...
The way the crew kept on snickering and giggling like immature pre-teens when Ethan was having an actual serious conversation on how cruel and horrible animals' lives are is very telling.
I think it's how NPCs deal with the cognitive dissonance, and the accusation of impropriety. It's like if during slavery times some abolitionist made slaveowners feel awkward, they would just childishly mock them. Very little going on inside their heads, but there is a bit of inner conflict there.
I so wish Ethan would just commit to it he’s been having these conversations for years. I can tell he does care and sees it’s wrong. I just wish he would do something about it but I’m glad at least he brings it to his viewers attention.
The number of people who think fish are some kind of water vegetable is staggering. I used to go fishing (one of my many regrets in life), just because you can't hear them scream doesn't mean you can't recognize the pain that they are in when you're facing it. Fish are intelligent creatures, many of which can have complex emotional lives, use tools, etc. Going vegan is the best thing I've done, I just wish I had done it sooner.
I remember watching my dad "clean" fish in the kitchen when I was a child. Not only was the smell horrific of their blood, but their eyes just stared at me as they wiggled and fought for their lives helplessly. Just because they were born in a fishes body doesn't mean it's ok to torture them. I've always hated seafood after those days as a child. I didn't learn about veganism until I was 21 and I was like... damn I think I'm vegan lmao. No really actually the turning point was watching a video of a farmer grab a couple day old piglet by his back legs and slam him on the concrete floor, creating a pool of blood and horrific screams. The man literally laughed? I am not giving my money to people like that ever again. Vegan 11 years with a healthy baby and never turning back. I could never support animal abuse again.
@ the fish wasn’t looking at you….lol pretty selfish of you to have a issue when the fish is giving its life for you to eat. Eating meat does not equal suffering. Lmao they have hooked up plants to electronic instruments and get reading from them when removing leaves ect. Better stop eating plants!
Love, the guy at the end talking about local farms in Sweden, is literally known on the show for consuming vast amounts of fast food, lol. Ethan has experienced extreme cognitive dissonance on this issue for years and has even gone so far as to try going vegan. I’ve done multiple videos on this. Ultimately, I think that for him, until a reasonable number of people around him go vegan-ideally, some people in his crew-he won’t make the switch. I believe it’s the social aspect of being vegan that needs to be addressed for him.
I've never heard of this dude. He sounds like a huge hypocrite. It's not hard to go vegan. I used to love steak bloody, hotdogs wrapped in bacon, and burgers with a fried egg. Once I made the connection, I went "cold turkey" and never turned back. Actions speak louder than words, my guy. Awesome analysis as always, Ed.
Same for me, pretty much, but "cold turkey" just isn't the way it goes for most people. I think we need to be a bit more forgiving/understanding of that -- to cultivate more vegans!
@@adamh8388I agree that it’s best to “meet people where they are” and thus allow everyone their own journey to veganism, and yet how can a moral truth, once understood, be acted upon in only an incremental manner? Either one believes that vegan is the right choice, or not… if someone isn’t convinced, then they aren’t convinced, and perhaps some further explanations or other hand-holding might help get the point across, but until they understand why vegan is the moral choice, they will only be going through the motions in order to please someone else. At the point when someone *does* understand the immorality of harming animals, then the only viable option is veganism, no half measure makes sense.
@@jpe1 Right - I completely agree that once someone realizes veganism is the moral choice, it only makes sense for them to go vegan. However, in practice, there''s a moral inertia due to our living in a carnist society. Because noone else is vegan in a given persons life (e.g., Ethan's friends), one can justify these stages/delays. Not OK, and of course the animals don't care about this bs, but just the way of society currently. My main point is that - for someone in this phase - I think going the shaming route or the philosophical one (veganism as a moral obligation) is, on average, less effective than the guiding/compassionate route.
Words are quite loud when you have a huge audience like this guy. I'd be happy that he's talking about it to that audience even if he is just contemplating it and hasn't made the choice yet.
H3H3 does seem to be on the right track, but the problem is he doesn't have any vegan friends. If he has a vegan activist on the show then his viewpoint will significantly change and possibly become vegan.
He'd probably not turn vegan, as no one wants to be malnutritioned by eating toxic, mostly indigestible plants that have a very poor bioavailablity of nutrients, and missing many key ones entirely.
H3 is definitely on the wrong track, they've been haemorrhaging a massive amount of subs and paying members due mainly to Ethan's defense and justification of the Israeli genocide in Palestine. Ethan doesn't care when innocent Palestinians are being blown up and killed, so why do you think he cares about animal abuse?
I lived in the country side and one time I saw a cow desperately chasing a truck taking away her calf from her. Its easier to think they dont have feelings thats for sure.
Yep, same reason there is still that racist myth that black people don't feel physical or emotional pain nearly as vividly as white people. The oppressors always have to lie to themselves so they can play pretend in their head as a good, compassionate person. They can handle being evil and thinking they are good, no problem, but they can't handle being evil and just being honest about how evil they are.
Their idiotic braying laughter when he talks about how torture and death makes him uncomfortable is gross and psychopathic. But horribly all too familiar.
Ethan Klein & company continue to defend and justify the torture, murder, and genocide of innocent Palestinians. He doesn't even care about other humans, so why would you expect him to care about animals?
@@FilzupBilburpI see this excuse constantly and I don’t buy it anymore. They’re grown adults, not children. They wouldn’t “cope laugh” at someone who opens up about being sexually assaulted or going through some other trauma despite being part of the oppressor class. They’re laughing because they don’t care and see animals as objects, and therefore think caring about them is something ridiculous - it’s that simple. There’s no introspection or self awareness happening at any level.
When you compare Earthlings message with Dominion's there's no question that Earthlings is way more convincing, imactful and most importantly unapologetic.
@ yes it’s the same image that haunts me today. I made a commitment to a friend that I would watch to the end so I did. I totally understand that you had to stop.
@@TheSadistNat1onyou're angry that the most of the crew are pro Palestine and Ethan is pro gen0cide? That's all that's changed lately and why people have rightfully turned on Ethan.
It's probably not about the concept of friendship but an assertion of dominance, the message they are conveying is that the argument is not relevant. If he thinks they are going to "obey" him then they are showing him that's not the case (It happened something similar to me the first time I mentioned I was a vegan to my closer friends, they immediately responded "You can do that, and we'll still buy this delicious X and Y dish") also it's related that since they are closer and sometimes make heavy/dark jokes, this can be considered as that type of context (even if for other people it doesn't makes sense or it's disrespectful (which it is))
That's an oversimplification of how relationships work. It can be explained to them that what they're doing is hurtful. The test of friendship comes in their response to that explanation.
It really blows my mind how immature people act when the topic of veganism and meat comes up. It really does shock me. It's like people become 8 year old children and are unable to just think with any crityical thinking. It[s pathetic.
My meat loving colleague said she once bottle fed a lamb, and said she couldn't eat a lamb for a long time afterwards. So it's disconnect and conditioning that makes people addicted to flesh. We see a nice little package all wrapped up in the supermarket or wherever, and don't ever think that we are consuming someone who had a personality and was an individual, just as much as our pets are.
As a vegan who has watched every episode of the H3 podcast, I'm SO happy that you made this video. I love watching the crew all day, every day, but my heart was hurting when I saw this exact part of the podcast. Your commentary on it, in your usual informative and respectful way, is exactly what I think Ethan will find helpful on his journey to (hopefully) stop the needless hurting of animals. I became vegan after I had to put my old dog down. Losing him was so painful that I decided to do my very best to never hurt an animal again. Ethan, I know you’ve got it in you! In memory of Shredder
To be honest since going vegan almost 2 years ago, and looking back to how I thought about veganism in the past, it terrifies to wonder about what other cognitive dissonances I still have, and what else I am completely blind to
@@Flat_world_watcher Haha no I meant more in terms of morality and ethics. Like, is there something people do everyday which is actually really bad and damaging when we step back, but we overlook it because it's so commonplace. ' Social' media, fast fashion/sweatshops and the pornographic industry are the first to come to mind
I remember back in early 2000 when I became vegan, I used to drive by cows on the country side. I would wave at them and make it a point to say, 'Hi ladies, I'm friendly and don't eat your kind'. I didn't think much of it but my partner at the time began reflecting every time I said that. He came up to me one day and said, 'As of today, I'm vegan and your little wave to the cows made me see them as individual beings and not food. Sometimes all you need is to plant a seed in someone's mind to make them think of what they are doing.
Agree wholeheartedly! That is why my posts on two social media pages are important to me. If I have planted the seeds for others to look at animals as individuals and not food, that is a good thing! 💚🌱💚
After 8 years of being vegan and not being around people eating meat most of the time, I find it pretty traumatising to suddenly be confronted to their immorality.
you probably just missing the key nutrients to think properly, as meat and fat provides the full nutrition, whereas plants are toxic and their nutrients are very little or not bioavailable
@@nicolaspirlet not only poorly available, which actually leads to deficiencies and health issues, the indigestible fibres cause digestive issues, and the plant toxins damage the organs. No wonder many vegans suffer from one or more forms of these. Really really unhealthy. Meat and fat on the other hand, contains everything you need, no need for plants, and almost perfectly digested
dont worry the dude who ordered his take out beef definitely wrote in the instructions. "Ethically sourced local meat only bro." Man how people can be so delusional is beyond me.
I sent this H3 clip to check out. I'm glad you were able to watch it. Hopefully you can call in to the show, share your perspective and hopefully change some minds in the issue. Like you mentioned, I feel like a lot of people are close to understanding, they may just need some discussion to connect the points.
I think he is capable of listening, but right now he's not. He's in a spot where any perceived criticism of or contradiction to him makes him incredibly reactive and just stops listening. I don't want Ed getting more hate, but if Ethan doesn't listen respectfully, if Ethan perceives anything as a slight, then there will be a shit show. So it's better to wait until he's in a better headspace. :/
My SO went vegan when we started dating and this Christmas we had an all vegan dinner with his family!!! They are stereotypical boomers so this is a big win for me lol they loved it. Setting an example and sharing, educating about veganism is the best way to help people understand.
Our species is so interesting. We have the knowledge today both morally and scientifically to dial in our nutrition perfectly without meat, yet even myself used the same excuses when I was eating meat just so I can prioritize my taste buds. When you really think about it, combined with the gluttonous food eye rolling, moaning, and commercials... it's just not right.
@@bunaynayslay True, but also selfishness to eat whatever is tastier. Greed is right for most cases. I realize since going Vegan that even animal products are in most chapsticks and bars of soap. The cheap stuff is made from animals because they don't have a voice and can exploit them all they want for whatever price. Sad stuff
The film that did it for me was “Hope what you eat matters” …..The first part of that film goes through your health and how horrible it is for the environment and then it literally goes through each animal individually. I was in tears screaming at the TV and went vegan that day January 5 of 2019.
I was out to dinner having Thai food and the man at the table next to me was with a woman he seemed to know but hadn't seen in a while and he said "yeah, I don't eat animals/animal products anymore". My heart sang with joy!
Perfect analysis, as always. It hurts to see people laughing about cruelty and massacring animals... And doing it in the face of friends that care? Absolutely sociopathic.
H3 always irritates me when it comes to their convos about veganism. Dan wants to be a “I’m not like other vegetarians” chill guy and Zak obviously has ego problems and 0 empathy for animals… it’s so frustrating.
Oof that was kinda harsh - I’m going to leave it up because it’s how I’ve been feeling for like a year now. Let me make it clear I think they’re all good people at the core & I’m a fan of the show!
imagine if Dan interrupted the show every time the topic of food was brought up and got all serious and started talking like this guy. No one would watch that.
So cringe to know they are having a conversation about what animals are going through and planning to bring murdered animals onto the podcast as a joke. Have fun with the topic in a less despicable way, h3h3
what frightens me most about how people treat """"lesser""""" animals is how confident people are to voice their presuppositions as if theyre facts and not even bother to do any research. we see this in this video - obviously props to the girl for looking it up but if she hadnt the others would have gone on with their day just reinforcing their previously held beliefs without any evidence. for another example i was having an argument with someone about the pain of crustaceans (specifically decapods) and they bring up jellyfish and state very firmly that crustaceans must not feel pain because jellyfish dont feel pain. they did not have any reasoning for this, just vibes. the fact that people are so willing to ignore such an issue when it could have such fundamental impact on everything we do terrifies me.
I would suggest the enormity of non-human animal suffering is incomprehensible, it's fathomless, the depth of the pain inflicted on animals is so significant
Oh hell yes! I have been watching H3 for so many years and posted in their subreddit about how i wish there would be a coming together between you two! Sadly i think the timing is a little off because they are on the end of year break for a while and they are less likely to respond to this because when they get back to the show they will probably have a backlog of news events to cover. Hope you get to speak with the crew directly in a discussion at some point!
I’ve also commented this on the subreddit in the past - I’d love Ed to chat with Ethan on the pod I think it could be a really productive conversation!
Thank you very much Ed for all the work you have done for the animals this year! You really make a good point that we have to continue educating people, there is so much ignorance trying to justify their suffering. Let's work for a more vegan 2025!
"Compassion for animals is intimately connected with goodness of character and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good (hu)man." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, German Philosopher
It's even MORE of a betrayal if the animals have a bit "better lives" before slaughter -- they're even more confused and distraught wondering WHY this is being done to them. The animals who live miserable lives 24/7 are too hopeless and beaten down to even wonder any more.
I have a pet goldfish fish that was supposed to be food for other animals which I’ve raised for many years. I can tell you he definitely appears to have emotions. He gets very excited when he sees me and knows it’s food time. He also gets spooked sometimes and hides like he’s scared and it can take a while for him to relax, even when it’s food time.
I totally agree. Earthlings did it for me. Ethan is on the road and its always hard to talk about to people who don't even realize the road exists yet.
I became vegan because of what I saw happening to animals in labs 🥼. I knew a guy who became vegan because he saw cats/dogs eaten in Asia. Do you think ED should show/talk of animals be animals being tortured or or cats dogs being eaten and that way people will make the connection and not eat meat 🥩 in general?
But then people will be scared and need a safe space. We can’t show people reality and truth their heads will explode and plus my ancestors and like food deserts and free range is good right?! 🤪
I hope you don't use any pharmaceuticals...I stopped taking any meds from big pharma.Lost my job because I didn't want to take the covid shot.The pharmaceutical industry is far more diabolical than the animal food industry.
The ignorant and callous indifference of his 'dumb' friends is the worst thing. I wish people like them could see and feel the suffering they cause to the beautiful animals whose charred remains they shoved into their cruel ugly mouths, those animals wanted to live, just as much as they do. So did the fish dragged from their ocean home, along with the dolphins, turtles and other sea creatures caught up and suffering in those awful trawler nets! 😟 😠
Vegan for almost 14 years, and H3 fan- Ethan is a compassionate person, I've felt for so long he just needs to be pointed the right direction, with helpful resources and he can successfully become vegan. Thank you for the video!❤🌱
Exactly my thoughts! I'm a big H3 fan, and I really think Ethan can make the switch, when he truly allows himself to feel his feelings and listen to the logic. He's a good boy - he can do it! 🌿✨
I was an H3 member for 4 years and have recently become a "fallen fan" as ethan would call me. He has brought this up numerous times and continues to push down any logical or compassionate thoughts about animals in order to continue eating meat. I think a big influence is his wife as well as the crew, because there are several crew members that feel the way Zach does about eating animals. If you want to get on the show, contact Olivia or Tom Ward- I believe they are the primary contacts for booking guests. It would at the very least be an interesting conversation.
Zack love please can you stay off TH-cam, your father and I are worried about your behaviour just lately. Love you xxx We’ll talk tomorrow over breakfast xxx
It's their humor around it that really gets me. How people start to smile and laugh when they compare chickens to dogs etc. They just aren't emotionally mature enough to really take in how horrible and evil things they are talking about, so they have to joke it away. - not realising that makes them 10 times worse. Just like nazis, joking about the holocaust they're causing.
I’ve decided to take a stand around “jokes” like these. If people are saying these things around me I’m going to stand up even though it’s socially uncomfortable
Having a pet fish growing up is actually the reason i started going vegan. I didn't have any pet cows or pigs so i wasnt able to make the connection between the animals and the meat I was eating until i was eating a fish sandwich and looked into the eyes of our pet fish in the aquarium.
This is exactly why our species is racing into oblivion. The trend to mock, shock and deliberately ignore the spirituality within us is disgusting. I'm not religious but I do feel we're really all connected somehow and this deliberate cruelty to animals and when someone human shows a soft spot is bad for us all.
You're right. Humans have lost their souls heading for oblivion. Vegan for the voiceless and innocent. The violence is off the scale. Pure Satanic, too evil for words.
I do not like the taste or texture of meat or fish I can't really afford to bye it anyway and and quite honestly I have discovered I do not need it so why should I have it.
I think sadly, even in 2025, people don't know about these industries & animal cruelty. I think you're giving people too much credit. Waaaay too much credit. This was very educational. I think people lack empathy, men in particular still hunt animals for fun. We do need to update our cultural attitudes. We also need to evolve out of capitalism & greed. Animals will out live us & take the planet back humans can be pretty dumb.
Just saying hi to my fellow vegans! I think there was a study that showed aquatic animals might experience higher intensity of pain that we do because their bodies need to be more sensitive to the movements in the water. Even if it wasn't so, to see a creature gasping and twitch should be enough for a human to conclude: "This creature is in pain!" I think I am silly for assuming concluding something like that is a default human thing... If I were to hit something in a bag and that "something" started to bleed, twitch, move around and/or produce noises, it would be enough to stop and give "it" the benefit of a doubt "it" might be a living organism. It is a great insult to humanity that others would rather assume everything else under the sun to continue with the torture rather than just stop.
I just watched a video from a lovely permaculturist who I follow, who unfortunately was making the claim in her video that vegan activism is eco fascism and white privilege. The comments were pretty disappointing too; so many apologists for animal harm. So like I often do, I seek out an Earthling Ed video and the world seems more ok again. And it helps me be more accepting of those who I agree with on many topics about the world and the importance of kindness and taking care of the planet, yet are not vegan. We can only do what we can to help people think logically and compassionately about the situation, and hope that they will make more kind choices in the future.
you don't know Ethan very well, he would have no problem with a respectful criticism like this. He saves those type of insta stories for people who insult or lie about him.
Thank you for being a guiding voice for the Vegan community Ed. I hope you had a successful 2024, and let's all dream bigger about a more Vegan 2025. For the animals!
Ethan, I know you're watching this video (and hopefully you read this comment), you are on the right path my friend. Don't let your lovely crew deter you from what is becoming obvious to you, and has been for many others already. Inform yourself further and realize that vegetarianism isn't enough. I hope you will do the right thing my man.
I feel ya. I really had to remember that they are good people, that just have been kinda brainwashed, like I once was. AB and Love with that meat.. It was painful 😞
Proud displays of carnism like that from the crew is such a good example of how people who otherwise have care, compassion and act virtous in other areas turn into something very different when the issue something that is normalised in their own culture.
Exactly, it’s because it’s normalized. People just need to think for themselves. You shouldn’t have these holes in your compassion and “virtue” when we all feel the same and want to be free from harm.
I love how Ethan is realising that what is happening to animals is wrong. Hopefully he will also make the same realisation about circumcision because given what he has said so far, he is pro circumcision.
@MostlyLoveOfMusic mostly I think it's a case of reducing the lines because some have become some sort of defacto standard. My local Sainsburys hasn't reduced the volmlune of stuff but has dropped a few companies, or at least sometimes it's down to the size and location of the store.
I think part of this is the people who have these ideas are our peers in terms of age and exposure to media and culture. Younger generations should be different. So much of this issue is imperialism and capitalism.... thats why its so annoying not to talk about the politics of animal agriculture. THE COST DOES NOT OUTWEIGH THE BENEFIT FOR THE RICH and until people are politically aligned (communist) it will continue. America is the global power and then China which is just as bad are the influencers so to speak. Life means nothing in the end, who cares if its all black tomorrow, BUT in knowing that you should understand you shouldnt be someone who works to make others suffer and instead works to build community and organize and takes care of everyone.
Fish was the last thing my partner and daughter made the connection with. It seems, the more animals look different to us, the easier it becomes for us, as humans, to dissociate. 💚💚☮☮ Seaspiracy [2021] Earthlings [2005]
Yes and in my town the local tip / recycling centre has started a booking in system for residents. Whereas before you could just turn up when you felt like it. Residents aren’t happy. I’d like to hear earthly Ed views on this issue to, as well as the Palestine issue.
I'd like to hear his take on National Health Service funding. Especially the issue of tuition loans for nursing trainees, and whether or not the loan repayments should be index-linked to inflation.
Talking about a steak and Zach saying "survival of the fittest, man!" Really? Go up against a bull and see how fit you are. Also, have they never seen a fish after being reeled in and watched it gasp for breath? It's so horrible to watch! Poor fishy!
Realistically, humans have weapons. So yes, we're more "fit" than animals. Sure without weapons he's weaker, but weapons and technology are specifically what have made humans more powerful than all other species on earth, overlooking that is woeful ignorance.
The most common thing I run into now with my non-vegan friends is that they just don't care enough. They take an optimistic nihilism approach, which I don't know how to debate. Anyone have any tips?
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"Just because you can be more cruel does not make being cruel ethical as a result. We don't call it 'ethical bullying' when a bully decides to only bully two times a week rather than five times a week."
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Vegan from Sweden here. The Swedish guy doesnt know what he's talking about. There's no difference in Sweden, they've all been exposed so it's the same here.
Yeah, he's kind of a pretentious know it all.
yeah Love is terribly annoying. i love swedes, as a death metal guy..but Love suuucks
Hmm jag är oxå vegan men det finns inget "snällt" eller "etiskt" slakteri - precis som att det inte finns ett snällt sätt att våldta/mörda någon.
@@TheSadistNat1oncrazy loves like my favorite dude
@@ZendovGaming why he sucks ha. i dont like any of the cast. ethans the talent yet they are at least half the show now
Torturing animal for any reason is horrible.
agree. What do you eat?
What if there was a hypothetical situation where it was even the right thing to do? Don't say "any" reason, say most reasons in this world. Overgeneralizing isn't good, if you care about accuracy and truth. Although it is a powerful statement
@@Neptoid I think Kevin is conflating eating animals with torturing them
@KK-lg8uz
I explained why and how you were wrong about everything you said in previous comments, but TH-cam deleted my comments.
The research you mentioned is outdated, debunked by modern science. Paleo humans ate more plants than meat. Meat and animal fat did not make our brains larger. Proven false. Try researching against your own narrative and be enlightened..
@KK-lg8uz
And now you want to argue with Kevin that eating meat and torturing animals aren't the same things.
Wrong again. They're one and the same. Let someone skin you alive and tell me it's not torture. You are a weak, sick troll..
I watched a video of a woman returning home to her ranch where she raised Highland cattle. She called out into the field," Mama's home!" All these bulls came running to greet her and get pets, just like a pack of dogs. They loved her. In the comments she talked about how the more they are loved, the sweeter the meat. After 2 years of naming them, loving them and treating them like pets she sends them to slaughter. I don't get it. How could anyone do that? Those poor boys are sent to slaughter, they are terrified when they sense what is happening and they are looking for her to come save them. It was just devastating to think of.
A complete and total lack of empathy.
What a wicked woman wicked evil😢
Lol you people are so funny
It's remind me of a argument I often use against unabolitionist welfarist: Is it really better to kill an being that enjoy their life and the world around them, to rip it from them, than to kill a agonizing animal that only knew despair and pain?
When you see a news report dealing with a (wo)man or a youth being killed by a serial killer or even in a (sadly current) car accident and that their family share how they were good human being "bright as the sun", "always smiling", "truly happy with the simple and calm life they lived" you feel even sadder for their sudden death.
It shows their hypocrisy nicely I think...
@@zandergonzales671 Lol you have no argument.
The way the crew kept on snickering and giggling like immature pre-teens when Ethan was having an actual serious conversation on how cruel and horrible animals' lives are is very telling.
I think it's how NPCs deal with the cognitive dissonance, and the accusation of impropriety. It's like if during slavery times some abolitionist made slaveowners feel awkward, they would just childishly mock them. Very little going on inside their heads, but there is a bit of inner conflict there.
I so wish Ethan would just commit to it he’s been having these conversations for years. I can tell he does care and sees it’s wrong. I just wish he would do something about it but I’m glad at least he brings it to his viewers attention.
The number of people who think fish are some kind of water vegetable is staggering. I used to go fishing (one of my many regrets in life), just because you can't hear them scream doesn't mean you can't recognize the pain that they are in when you're facing it. Fish are intelligent creatures, many of which can have complex emotional lives, use tools, etc. Going vegan is the best thing I've done, I just wish I had done it sooner.
The mental illness in you…..You regret fishing……Wow…..🤔
There's a great book about fish called "What a Fish Knows" by the biologist Jonathan Balcombe.
I remember watching my dad "clean" fish in the kitchen when I was a child. Not only was the smell horrific of their blood, but their eyes just stared at me as they wiggled and fought for their lives helplessly. Just because they were born in a fishes body doesn't mean it's ok to torture them. I've always hated seafood after those days as a child. I didn't learn about veganism until I was 21 and I was like... damn I think I'm vegan lmao. No really actually the turning point was watching a video of a farmer grab a couple day old piglet by his back legs and slam him on the concrete floor, creating a pool of blood and horrific screams. The man literally laughed? I am not giving my money to people like that ever again. Vegan 11 years with a healthy baby and never turning back. I could never support animal abuse again.
@ the fish wasn’t looking at you….lol pretty selfish of you to have a issue when the fish is giving its life for you to eat. Eating meat does not equal suffering. Lmao they have hooked up plants to electronic instruments and get reading from them when removing leaves ect. Better stop eating plants!
I used to love fishing.. but I always had an uneasy feeling about it. Now I know that feeling was my conscience.
Love, the guy at the end talking about local farms in Sweden, is literally known on the show for consuming vast amounts of fast food, lol. Ethan has experienced extreme cognitive dissonance on this issue for years and has even gone so far as to try going vegan. I’ve done multiple videos on this. Ultimately, I think that for him, until a reasonable number of people around him go vegan-ideally, some people in his crew-he won’t make the switch. I believe it’s the social aspect of being vegan that needs to be addressed for him.
dead channel
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He’s been talking about becoming a vegetarian/vegan for several years. It’s time to take action pal
taking the moral high ground without needing to take any action
He did for like a month and stopped iirc lol
I did it overnight.
Right. No more lip service.
@@nicolaspirlet glad he didn't. Health matters more
I've never heard of this dude. He sounds like a huge hypocrite. It's not hard to go vegan. I used to love steak bloody, hotdogs wrapped in bacon, and burgers with a fried egg. Once I made the connection, I went "cold turkey" and never turned back.
Actions speak louder than words, my guy.
Awesome analysis as always, Ed.
Same for me, pretty much, but "cold turkey" just isn't the way it goes for most people. I think we need to be a bit more forgiving/understanding of that -- to cultivate more vegans!
@@adamh8388I agree that it’s best to “meet people where they are” and thus allow everyone their own journey to veganism, and yet how can a moral truth, once understood, be acted upon in only an incremental manner? Either one believes that vegan is the right choice, or not… if someone isn’t convinced, then they aren’t convinced, and perhaps some further explanations or other hand-holding might help get the point across, but until they understand why vegan is the moral choice, they will only be going through the motions in order to please someone else. At the point when someone *does* understand the immorality of harming animals, then the only viable option is veganism, no half measure makes sense.
@@jpe1 Right - I completely agree that once someone realizes veganism is the moral choice, it only makes sense for them to go vegan. However, in practice, there''s a moral inertia due to our living in a carnist society. Because noone else is vegan in a given persons life (e.g., Ethan's friends), one can justify these stages/delays. Not OK, and of course the animals don't care about this bs, but just the way of society currently. My main point is that - for someone in this phase - I think going the shaming route or the philosophical one (veganism as a moral obligation) is, on average, less effective than the guiding/compassionate route.
Words are quite loud when you have a huge audience like this guy. I'd be happy that he's talking about it to that audience even if he is just contemplating it and hasn't made the choice yet.
@@sluxi 100%
H3H3 does seem to be on the right track, but the problem is he doesn't have any vegan friends. If he has a vegan activist on the show then his viewpoint will significantly change and possibly become vegan.
He'd probably not turn vegan, as no one wants to be malnutritioned by eating toxic, mostly indigestible plants that have a very poor bioavailablity of nutrients, and missing many key ones entirely.
@@viktorgoa"Mostly indigestible" lmao
@noahbranston7242 lmao? 🤔You ok?
@@viktorgoaSource?
H3 is definitely on the wrong track, they've been haemorrhaging a massive amount of subs and paying members due mainly to Ethan's defense and justification of the Israeli genocide in Palestine. Ethan doesn't care when innocent Palestinians are being blown up and killed, so why do you think he cares about animal abuse?
I lived in the country side and one time I saw a cow desperately chasing a truck taking away her calf from her. Its easier to think they dont have feelings thats for sure.
Yep, same reason there is still that racist myth that black people don't feel physical or emotional pain nearly as vividly as white people. The oppressors always have to lie to themselves so they can play pretend in their head as a good, compassionate person. They can handle being evil and thinking they are good, no problem, but they can't handle being evil and just being honest about how evil they are.
What does it matter if they have feelings?
@@zandergonzales671 That same question could easily be directed at you.
I have feelings and people spit in my face every day 😂 welcome to reality buddy
@@zandergonzales671 wow
Their idiotic braying laughter when he talks about how torture and death makes him uncomfortable is gross and psychopathic. But horribly all too familiar.
Probably a coping mechanism. Easier to downplay the act of consuming animals than accept the realities of it.
@FilzupBilburp Agree. Laugh away the cognitive dissonance.
Ethan Klein & company continue to defend and justify the torture, murder, and genocide of innocent Palestinians. He doesn't even care about other humans, so why would you expect him to care about animals?
@FilzupBilburp welcome to reality buddy people and animals eat each other. Sorry that hurts your worthless feelings 😂😂
@@FilzupBilburpI see this excuse constantly and I don’t buy it anymore. They’re grown adults, not children. They wouldn’t “cope laugh” at someone who opens up about being sexually assaulted or going through some other trauma despite being part of the oppressor class. They’re laughing because they don’t care and see animals as objects, and therefore think caring about them is something ridiculous - it’s that simple. There’s no introspection or self awareness happening at any level.
If you acknowledge that it is slavery and is a holocaust and still choose to fund it, I don't know what to say.
omg can we just collectively stop comparing animal suffering to the fucking holocaust. its not the fucking same
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Watching Earthlings is like watching the sun directly with no sun glasses. It hurts so bad that any honest human being has to go vegan after that.
This guy looks like direct sunlight would knock him on his ass 😂
10k years of evolution lead to your tiny brain making that decision 😂😂😂
When you compare Earthlings message with Dominion's there's no question that Earthlings is way more convincing, imactful and most importantly unapologetic.
I tried watching it, but it was just too terrible. I had to stop after the scene with the dog and the garbage truck, and those images still haunt me.
@ yes it’s the same image that haunts me today. I made a commitment to a friend that I would watch to the end so I did. I totally understand that you had to stop.
Hope H3 gets Ed on the show
Wtf you’re sick
he’s an israeli apologist bro… why are you still a fan
That would be great.
If you’re eating meat in the way his co-hosts did, in a vulnerable moment like this, you’re not a friend.
It's provocation. Toward someone emotionaly affected to had to it. It's really bad.
no ethan is the bad one to them. its a weird world of paradox the new fans live in where ethans bad and the crews great. its a bunch of gen z shit
@@TheSadistNat1onyou're angry that the most of the crew are pro Palestine and Ethan is pro gen0cide? That's all that's changed lately and why people have rightfully turned on Ethan.
It's probably not about the concept of friendship but an assertion of dominance, the message they are conveying is that the argument is not relevant. If he thinks they are going to "obey" him then they are showing him that's not the case
(It happened something similar to me the first time I mentioned I was a vegan to my closer friends, they immediately responded "You can do that, and we'll still buy this delicious X and Y dish") also it's related that since they are closer and sometimes make heavy/dark jokes, this can be considered as that type of context (even if for other people it doesn't makes sense or it's disrespectful (which it is))
That's an oversimplification of how relationships work. It can be explained to them that what they're doing is hurtful. The test of friendship comes in their response to that explanation.
As an ex-h3 fan who saw this segment, the crew response disgusted me and I'm so glad you made this video! 💚
It really blows my mind how immature people act when the topic of veganism and meat comes up. It really does shock me. It's like people become 8 year old children and are unable to just think with any crityical thinking. It[s pathetic.
defense mechanism
Not really it's a food source pure and simple
Indeed...which as we know, sadly is MOST people....most humans in the world.
@rondarkman. The best part is that red meat will accelerate your chance of cancer, and I LOVE that for you ❤️❤️🤣🤣
Ed, go on the show. They would definitely have you on.
SECONDING!!
My meat loving colleague said she once bottle fed a lamb, and said she couldn't eat a lamb for a long time afterwards. So it's disconnect and conditioning that makes people addicted to flesh. We see a nice little package all wrapped up in the supermarket or wherever, and don't ever think that we are consuming someone who had a personality and was an individual, just as much as our pets are.
Sounds like a skill issue 😂
As a vegan who has watched every episode of the H3 podcast, I'm SO happy that you made this video. I love watching the crew all day, every day, but my heart was hurting when I saw this exact part of the podcast. Your commentary on it, in your usual informative and respectful way, is exactly what I think Ethan will find helpful on his journey to (hopefully) stop the needless hurting of animals. I became vegan after I had to put my old dog down. Losing him was so painful that I decided to do my very best to never hurt an animal again.
Ethan, I know you’ve got it in you!
In memory of Shredder
To be honest since going vegan almost 2 years ago, and looking back to how I thought about veganism in the past, it terrifies to wonder about what other cognitive dissonances I still have, and what else I am completely blind to
Like the earth not being a spinning ball orbiting the sun?
@@Flat_world_watcher Haha no I meant more in terms of morality and ethics. Like, is there something people do everyday which is actually really bad and damaging when we step back, but we overlook it because it's so commonplace. ' Social' media, fast fashion/sweatshops and the pornographic industry are the first to come to mind
Veganism is the moral baseline
-200 IQ
I remember back in early 2000 when I became vegan, I used to drive by cows on the country side. I would wave at them and make it a point to say, 'Hi ladies, I'm friendly and don't eat your kind'. I didn't think much of it but my partner at the time began reflecting every time I said that. He came up to me one day and said, 'As of today, I'm vegan and your little wave to the cows made me see them as individual beings and not food. Sometimes all you need is to plant a seed in someone's mind to make them think of what they are doing.
Agree wholeheartedly! That is why my posts on two social media pages are important to me. If I have planted the seeds for others to look at animals as individuals and not food, that is a good thing! 💚🌱💚
After 8 years of being vegan and not being around people eating meat most of the time, I find it pretty traumatising to suddenly be confronted to their immorality.
you probably just missing the key nutrients to think properly, as meat and fat provides the full nutrition, whereas plants are toxic and their nutrients are very little or not bioavailable
@@viktorgoa yeah superior bioavailability is an arbitrary metric to use to compare foods. Health outcomes is the ultimate one 🤷
@@nicolaspirlet not only poorly available, which actually leads to deficiencies and health issues, the indigestible fibres cause digestive issues, and the plant toxins damage the organs. No wonder many vegans suffer from one or more forms of these. Really really unhealthy. Meat and fat on the other hand, contains everything you need, no need for plants, and almost perfectly digested
@viktorgoa what nutrient do you need to think properly that our friend here is missing?
Is traumatising really the right word to use in this context
dont worry the dude who ordered his take out beef definitely wrote in the instructions. "Ethically sourced local meat only bro."
Man how people can be so delusional is beyond me.
Great analysis and I massively agree with the last point: Ethan, you're almost there, now watch Earthlings!!!
Earthlings watched 17 years ago still haunts me.
I sent this H3 clip to check out. I'm glad you were able to watch it. Hopefully you can call in to the show, share your perspective and hopefully change some minds in the issue. Like you mentioned, I feel like a lot of people are close to understanding, they may just need some discussion to connect the points.
Someone who supports genocide will also have no problem supporting animal abuse.
@@lucky-lu6tc palestinians are committing genocide??
I think he is capable of listening, but right now he's not. He's in a spot where any perceived criticism of or contradiction to him makes him incredibly reactive and just stops listening. I don't want Ed getting more hate, but if Ethan doesn't listen respectfully, if Ethan perceives anything as a slight, then there will be a shit show. So it's better to wait until he's in a better headspace. :/
@@lucky-lu6tc there’s literally tons of footage over the years of him condemning Israel.
@@lucky-lu6tcI don’t think Ed or Ethan supports genocide? Who are you talking about?
I made a vegan spaghetti bolognese for my family tonight who aren’t vegan - they all loved it and actually preferred the meat-free mince 💚👏
Same with a tiramisu, was actually fire 🔥
My SO went vegan when we started dating and this Christmas we had an all vegan dinner with his family!!! They are stereotypical boomers so this is a big win for me lol they loved it. Setting an example and sharing, educating about veganism is the best way to help people understand.
I'd prefer pork and veal mince
i absolutely HATE "survival of the fittest" as an anti-vegan argument, they dont even know what it means T_T
This is not a crossover I’ve ever expected
So upsetting to see people with no empathy ☹️
Our species is so interesting. We have the knowledge today both morally and scientifically to dial in our nutrition perfectly without meat, yet even myself used the same excuses when I was eating meat just so I can prioritize my taste buds. When you really think about it, combined with the gluttonous food eye rolling, moaning, and commercials... it's just not right.
It all boils down to money. The root of all evil.
@@bunaynayslay True, but also selfishness to eat whatever is tastier. Greed is right for most cases. I realize since going Vegan that even animal products are in most chapsticks and bars of soap. The cheap stuff is made from animals because they don't have a voice and can exploit them all they want for whatever price. Sad stuff
The film that did it for me was “Hope what you eat matters” …..The first part of that film goes through your health and how horrible it is for the environment and then it literally goes through each animal individually. I was in tears screaming at the TV and went vegan that day January 5 of 2019.
I was out to dinner having Thai food and the man at the table next to me was with a woman he seemed to know but hadn't seen in a while and he said "yeah, I don't eat animals/animal products anymore". My heart sang with joy!
If you could continue to enjoy delicious and nutritious meals without harming other sentient individuals, would you consider it?
Perfect analysis, as always. It hurts to see people laughing about cruelty and massacring animals... And doing it in the face of friends that care? Absolutely sociopathic.
Basing the value of life on intelligence... now where have we seen that play out in history before? 🤔
People who think like that don't realize they see less intelligent people as less than human.
@@fading_trails They do. They are aware they see the disabled, the poor, the other as less than human.
Dan is a really, really annoying vegetarian.
-a former vegetarian turned vegan
When something is cruel and wrong it usually cruel and wrong .
Exactly, wrong is wrong, god bless you my chocolate child
Thanks for always bringing awareness to this awful world 🫂
People who really don't care manage to ignore animals who live in water because they are so different to us and they don't see them alive very often.
No justification for animal cruelty
H3 always irritates me when it comes to their convos about veganism. Dan wants to be a “I’m not like other vegetarians” chill guy and Zak obviously has ego problems and 0 empathy for animals… it’s so frustrating.
Oof that was kinda harsh - I’m going to leave it up because it’s how I’ve been feeling for like a year now. Let me make it clear I think they’re all good people at the core & I’m a fan of the show!
imagine if Dan interrupted the show every time the topic of food was brought up and got all serious and started talking like this guy. No one would watch that.
@@A2Z83 yea that’s kinds of extreme.. there’s a happy middle that I’d rather have
@@Ktsookool pretty soft criticism imo, and honestly I'd extend Zak's lack of empathy to human animals as well.
So cringe to know they are having a conversation about what animals are going through and planning to bring murdered animals onto the podcast as a joke. Have fun with the topic in a less despicable way, h3h3
Theyve been getting worse and worse for the past year and a bit.
That is because we vegans are becoming more and more visible and that's a confrontation to their lifestyle.
what frightens me most about how people treat """"lesser""""" animals is how confident people are to voice their presuppositions as if theyre facts and not even bother to do any research. we see this in this video - obviously props to the girl for looking it up but if she hadnt the others would have gone on with their day just reinforcing their previously held beliefs without any evidence. for another example i was having an argument with someone about the pain of crustaceans (specifically decapods) and they bring up jellyfish and state very firmly that crustaceans must not feel pain because jellyfish dont feel pain. they did not have any reasoning for this, just vibes. the fact that people are so willing to ignore such an issue when it could have such fundamental impact on everything we do terrifies me.
I would suggest the enormity of non-human animal suffering is incomprehensible, it's fathomless, the depth of the pain inflicted on animals is so significant
Oh hell yes! I have been watching H3 for so many years and posted in their subreddit about how i wish there would be a coming together between you two! Sadly i think the timing is a little off because they are on the end of year break for a while and they are less likely to respond to this because when they get back to the show they will probably have a backlog of news events to cover. Hope you get to speak with the crew directly in a discussion at some point!
Thiiiiis!!! I would LOVE watching that.
I’ve also commented this on the subreddit in the past - I’d love Ed to chat with Ethan on the pod I think it could be a really productive conversation!
and this is someone who made us cry with him when his dog passed. I hate him so much. He’s vile
Thank you very much Ed for all the work you have done for the animals this year!
You really make a good point that we have to continue educating people, there is so much ignorance trying to justify their suffering.
Let's work for a more vegan 2025!
If intelligence equals “right to life” to him, then there’s lots of people who probably would not be around either!
"Compassion for animals is intimately connected with goodness of character and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good (hu)man." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, German Philosopher
It's disturbing how these guys just laugh about all of the animals that are being killed.
We appreciate your work, Ed
It's even MORE of a betrayal if the animals have a bit "better lives" before slaughter -- they're even more confused and distraught wondering WHY this is being done to them. The animals who live miserable lives 24/7 are too hopeless and beaten down to even wonder any more.
Zach needs to learn to think beyond the meatbrain.
👍 Whole food plant based for the environment and health; vegan for the victims!
*Ask your city government to sign the Plant Based Treaty!* 🖖
He needs to go vegan now! Everyone needs to go vegan for the animals🥺🙏💚🫂🐮🐷🐔🐇🐟🐝❤️❤️❤️
No 🥰
I agree!!! ❤🐶🦊🐯🦁🙈🐦🐻❄️🐼🐮🐷🐽🐰🐰🐝🫎🐌🪳🦂🦕🐍🐜🦖🪲🪲🦄🐴🐛🪰🕷️🦎🪼🦐🦐🐟🐬🐳🦞🐡🐋🐅🦣🐘🐆🐋🦒🐪🦧🦍🦓🦛🦏🦬🦘🫏🐎🐐🦌🐕🐑🐏🐖🦚🪶🦦🐇🦔🐿️🦫🕊️🦤🦃🦩🦡🐀🐁🦨🦢🦜🐓🦝🦥 i love animals!!!!
@bunaynayslay 😊❤️❤️❤️🐥
Look at me I'm a tough guy I'm eating meat. Pathetic. Absolutely Pathetic from this small man.
I have a pet goldfish fish that was supposed to be food for other animals which I’ve raised for many years. I can tell you he definitely appears to have emotions. He gets very excited when he sees me and knows it’s food time. He also gets spooked sometimes and hides like he’s scared and it can take a while for him to relax, even when it’s food time.
I totally agree. Earthlings did it for me. Ethan is on the road and its always hard to talk about to people who don't even realize the road exists yet.
I became vegan because of what I saw happening to animals in labs 🥼. I knew a guy who became vegan because he saw cats/dogs eaten in Asia.
Do you think ED should show/talk of animals be animals being tortured or or cats dogs being eaten and that way people will make the connection and not eat meat 🥩 in general?
But then people will be scared and need a safe space. We can’t show people reality and truth their heads will explode and plus my ancestors and like food deserts and free range is good right?! 🤪
I hope you don't use any pharmaceuticals...I stopped taking any meds from big pharma.Lost my job because I didn't want to take the covid shot.The pharmaceutical industry is far more diabolical than the animal food industry.
"Probably categorized as a comedy podcast". Ed, the king of throwing diplomatic shade xD
The ignorant and callous indifference of his 'dumb' friends is the worst thing. I wish people like them could see and feel the suffering they cause to the beautiful animals whose charred remains they shoved into their cruel ugly mouths, those animals wanted to live, just as much as they do. So did the fish dragged from their ocean home, along with the dolphins, turtles and other sea creatures caught up and suffering in those awful trawler nets!
😟 😠
this is a crazy crossover. also of course it’s posted while they’re on break lmao
Most fish are smarter than these guys.
Vegeterians are frustrating.
Vegan for almost 14 years, and H3 fan- Ethan is a compassionate person, I've felt for so long he just needs to be pointed the right direction, with helpful resources and he can successfully become vegan. Thank you for the video!❤🌱
I wish he received more support for doing that from the people around him because these clips seem to show he isn't getting a ton...
Exactly my thoughts! I'm a big H3 fan, and I really think Ethan can make the switch, when he truly allows himself to feel his feelings and listen to the logic. He's a good boy - he can do it! 🌿✨
He’s a huge hypocrite. He’s a Zionist and meat eater. How do you watch him?
not sure how being a gen*cide supporter could be considered compassionate lmao. and being with a former IOF "soldier" terr*rist
Who tf could possibly be an H3 fan still? Embarrassing
Dominion (2018)
I was an H3 member for 4 years and have recently become a "fallen fan" as ethan would call me. He has brought this up numerous times and continues to push down any logical or compassionate thoughts about animals in order to continue eating meat. I think a big influence is his wife as well as the crew, because there are several crew members that feel the way Zach does about eating animals.
If you want to get on the show, contact Olivia or Tom Ward- I believe they are the primary contacts for booking guests. It would at the very least be an interesting conversation.
I'm eating a meat feast pizza while watching this. Does that make me evil?
Zack love please can you stay off TH-cam, your father and I are worried about your behaviour just lately. Love you xxx
We’ll talk tomorrow over breakfast xxx
It's their humor around it that really gets me. How people start to smile and laugh when they compare chickens to dogs etc. They just aren't emotionally mature enough to really take in how horrible and evil things they are talking about, so they have to joke it away. - not realising that makes them 10 times worse. Just like nazis, joking about the holocaust they're causing.
I’ve decided to take a stand around “jokes” like these. If people are saying these things around me I’m going to stand up even though it’s socially uncomfortable
Having a pet fish growing up is actually the reason i started going vegan. I didn't have any pet cows or pigs so i wasnt able to make the connection between the animals and the meat I was eating until i was eating a fish sandwich and looked into the eyes of our pet fish in the aquarium.
Why are you doing this vegan stuff? Please come home, your father and I are heartbroken 💔
This is exactly why our species is racing into oblivion. The trend to mock, shock and deliberately ignore the spirituality within us is disgusting. I'm not religious but I do feel we're really all connected somehow and this deliberate cruelty to animals and when someone human shows a soft spot is bad for us all.
You're right. Humans have lost their souls heading for oblivion. Vegan for the voiceless and innocent. The violence is off the scale. Pure Satanic, too evil for words.
Hey Ed - I would love to debate you on animal and human rights. Specifically just rights in general.
Would you be open to this?
Not Ed, obviously, but happy to have a conversation with you about veganism and animal rights.
@Burner_269 sorry bud I don't think you have the clout op is chasing
Thank you Ed. For always bringing these issues and ignorant ‘influencers’ to light and speaking the truth.
#VeganForLife ❤
As eloquent and effective as ever Ed. Well said
I do not like the taste or texture of meat or fish I can't really afford to bye it anyway and and quite honestly I have discovered I do not need it so why should I have it.
Bro can't afford food 😂😂😂😂 your opinion is worthless
I think sadly, even in 2025, people don't know about these industries & animal cruelty. I think you're giving people too much credit. Waaaay too much credit. This was very educational. I think people lack empathy, men in particular still hunt animals for fun. We do need to update our cultural attitudes. We also need to evolve out of capitalism & greed. Animals will out live us & take the planet back humans can be pretty dumb.
Just saying hi to my fellow vegans! I think there was a study that showed aquatic animals might experience higher intensity of pain that we do because their bodies need to be more sensitive to the movements in the water. Even if it wasn't so, to see a creature gasping and twitch should be enough for a human to conclude: "This creature is in pain!"
I think I am silly for assuming concluding something like that is a default human thing...
If I were to hit something in a bag and that "something" started to bleed, twitch, move around and/or produce noises, it would be enough to stop and give "it" the benefit of a doubt "it" might be a living organism. It is a great insult to humanity that others would rather assume everything else under the sun to continue with the torture rather than just stop.
I just watched a video from a lovely permaculturist who I follow, who unfortunately was making the claim in her video that vegan activism is eco fascism and white privilege. The comments were pretty disappointing too; so many apologists for animal harm. So like I often do, I seek out an Earthling Ed video and the world seems more ok again. And it helps me be more accepting of those who I agree with on many topics about the world and the importance of kindness and taking care of the planet, yet are not vegan. We can only do what we can to help people think logically and compassionately about the situation, and hope that they will make more kind choices in the future.
Here before ethan makes an Instagram story calling this guy such hard hitters as "dummy" and "stupidhead"
Crickets so far. Ethan can take criticism as long as it’s good faith and not accusing him of being a genocidal Zionist
you don't know Ethan very well, he would have no problem with a respectful criticism like this.
He saves those type of insta stories for people who insult or lie about him.
Thank you for being a guiding voice for the Vegan community Ed. I hope you had a successful 2024, and let's all dream bigger about a more Vegan 2025. For the animals!
Ethan, I know you're watching this video (and hopefully you read this comment), you are on the right path my friend. Don't let your lovely crew deter you from what is becoming obvious to you, and has been for many others already. Inform yourself further and realize that vegetarianism isn't enough. I hope you will do the right thing my man.
So glad you talked about this. I'm a huge H3 fan but this segment of their show was extremely difficult for me to sit through.
I feel ya. I really had to remember that they are good people, that just have been kinda brainwashed, like I once was.
AB and Love with that meat.. It was painful 😞
Proud displays of carnism like that from the crew is such a good example of how people who otherwise have care, compassion and act virtous in other areas turn into something very different when the issue something that is normalised in their own culture.
Exactly, it’s because it’s normalized. People just need to think for themselves. You shouldn’t have these holes in your compassion and “virtue” when we all feel the same and want to be free from harm.
I love how Ethan is realising that what is happening to animals is wrong. Hopefully he will also make the same realisation about circumcision because given what he has said so far, he is pro circumcision.
Vegan for the animals. 💚🌱🙏🏻
Meat eater here, for the insects 🐞💚
Thank you, Ed for everything you do for animals which in turn helps the planet and humans too💚
Very little progress with veganism over the past few years, it's sad
Well, in 2023 the numbers went up over a million in the UK.
@@Human_Herbivore I've seen UK supermarkets and cafes reduce their vegan offerings in the past 1-2 years
@MostlyLoveOfMusic mostly I think it's a case of reducing the lines because some have become some sort of defacto standard. My local Sainsburys hasn't reduced the volmlune of stuff but has dropped a few companies, or at least sometimes it's down to the size and location of the store.
I think part of this is the people who have these ideas are our peers in terms of age and exposure to media and culture. Younger generations should be different.
So much of this issue is imperialism and capitalism.... thats why its so annoying not to talk about the politics of animal agriculture. THE COST DOES NOT OUTWEIGH THE BENEFIT FOR THE RICH and until people are politically aligned (communist) it will continue. America is the global power and then China which is just as bad are the influencers so to speak.
Life means nothing in the end, who cares if its all black tomorrow, BUT in knowing that you should understand you shouldnt be someone who works to make others suffer and instead works to build community and organize and takes care of everyone.
Happy New Year, Ed 🎆
Fish was the last thing my partner and daughter made the connection with. It seems, the more animals look different to us, the easier it becomes for us, as humans, to dissociate. 💚💚☮☮
Seaspiracy [2021]
Earthlings [2005]
i love the h3h3 podcast i would love it even more if ethan was vegan that would be really cool
I remember he went vegan for like a month a few years ago that was exciting, sad it didn't last longer
Now let’s hear his take on Palestine…
Yes and in my town the local tip / recycling centre has started a booking in system for residents. Whereas before you could just turn up when you felt like it. Residents aren’t happy. I’d like to hear earthly Ed views on this issue to, as well as the Palestine issue.
I'd like to hear his take on National Health Service funding. Especially the issue of tuition loans for nursing trainees, and whether or not the loan repayments should be index-linked to inflation.
I wish everyone would go visit a sanctuary
Why?
They’re clearly overcompensating because they actually feel guilt. If you read their micro expression, it’s very clear.
Your name is unicorngirl and you're talking about micro expressions, you're the definition of socially inept.
Talking about a steak and Zach saying "survival of the fittest, man!" Really? Go up against a bull and see how fit you are.
Also, have they never seen a fish after being reeled in and watched it gasp for breath? It's so horrible to watch! Poor fishy!
Realistically, humans have weapons. So yes, we're more "fit" than animals. Sure without weapons he's weaker, but weapons and technology are specifically what have made humans more powerful than all other species on earth, overlooking that is woeful ignorance.
The most common thing I run into now with my non-vegan friends is that they just don't care enough. They take an optimistic nihilism approach, which I don't know how to debate. Anyone have any tips?