I don't know why Indycar doesn't leave the pits open under yellow. It makes the strategy mix up feel more like people got screwed then people played there cards well to get lucky.
It’s pretty hard to defend closing the pits. I could maybe see an argument on ovals when you don’t want cars racing back to the pits, but historical context makes even that much get shaky because NASCAR was the first to introduce closed pits and that was during an era where they had guys race back to the yellow flag anyway, so…yeah. I’ve never liked it in Indy cars, maybe in part because as it started as one of those USAC things that only happened at Indy, but it also invariably causes more problems than it solves in terms of messing with people’s strategies, plus you get 20 cars in the pits at once which helps no one.
It cuts both ways. There are plenty of people who wish the pits were closed under yellow in their series because of the advantage people get when the pit under yellow v green.
My first time at Mid-Ohio and it was amazing from sitting in thunder valley for practice and qualifying to turn 4 and 5 today, absolutely spectacular. Will power was the big winner under the delayed yellow call as it seemed he was still was on pit road when it was called allowing him to jump the mid pack and from there his car was good enough to make moves. Scottie Mac was absolutely perfect watching him manage the gap against Palau and never stepped a foot wrong
I have NEVER understood why IndyCar doesn't implement slow zones. They have the pit speed limiters and there's nothing preventing them from using those on the track. And totally agree; I'm a CART purist as well. The closing the pits is a NASCAR trick and I don't know why IndyCar does it.
IndyCar does it because IndyCar is an American series. I understand it's maddening but once one series does something the others will do the same thing. I doubt all of these American racing series change some of these rules.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld If the reason was $$$, closing the pit isn't going to made the race more exciting. Infact it made the field more chaotic, which you still made money but definitely people would start asking how relevant it is. And it'll be more obvious when less money was made.
@@homeperson11244 even IndyCar's red flag rules are the same as nascar's that certainly doesn't give me hope that race rules will change or be modified.
@@ElliottNest41 Somehow I think Rossi's not sitting out the rest of this season despite Sunday's royal mess. He's already got a seat at Arrow McLaren SP waiting for him next year, so... nothing to lose, I guess? Still, it's completely unacceptable behavior by him and his teammates. Except friggin' DEVLIN DEFRANCESCO. The kid was by far the most well-behaved of the Andretti stable, but he also got bullied by Rossi's antics.
As a Rossi fan, I was a little disappointed in his actions today. It’s like his failures over the past couple years all came out and he took them out on his teammates
DeFrancesco reminds me of Paul Tracy with his driving style and his demeanor. Indycar NEEDS this beef more but it has to be good beef, good controversy. The wheel to wheel racing has been OUTSTANDING so far this year and I'm loving a full 27 car field on road and street course. 27 cars at Toronto=LOOKOUT!
Andretti autosport problems began at the top. With Michael, He has got his hands into way too many things. This team is stretched way too thin. There is a reason this team hasn't a title in 10 years. He losing Rossi at the season's end, and Herta might be next to leave. Arrow Mclaren is going to leap over Andretti in fact they already have jumped over them.
Losing Rossi is a good thing, he thinks he's a superstar because when Andretti had the best package he had crap teammates in Marco and Veach, plus an ok but past his best RHR. Reality is, as soon as top level Herta came in, Rossi has been made to look average
@@dxfifa what had been doing Rossi no favors last two years is horrific strategy/pit stops. I expect Rossi to shine in his new seat next year. Team Andretti is a sh*t show.
So I made my first trip out to mid-Ohio today, that was awesome. I sat in the keyhole and yeah it looked like rossi just drove Grojean off, because rossi just drove away from it. Herta’s incident was also right in front of me and that was exciting
Feel really bad for Pato today, he's been having some really bad luck lately. Rossi was just completely out of control. Andretti can at least feel good they're swapping him out for Kirkwood next season. And yes, that holding the yellow is BS. Hinch brought that up on the broadcast how that decision put McLaughlin in the lead due to not having to deal with a slower outlap on cold tires.
As usual you've got it covered. Agree with every word. Can't say this season lacks for excitement! REALLY appreciate all the drivers making themselves available to you.
PT and Dario at Team Green crashed together a few times (all Paul's fault). I completely agree about closing the pits, as does former IMSA owner/driver Rob Dyson. I believe it was begun by USAC in the 60s or 70s because, before electronic timing & scoring, maintaining an accurate running order when drivers pitted under yellow at random times was a nightmare. But we have transponders now, so there is no need to continue doing this, except for a reluctance to change.
I disagree ... Dario aint a saint either... he also had fault in it. The crash at Gateway was his fault not PT. PT left him enough space.. Dario just went up and hit him. Anything else is just fanboy crap.
I really thought Johncock had the win here but that blocking by Dallenbach and Lloyd Ruby was uncalled for. Pole sitter Sneva chose the wrong rubber and he easily lost the lead to Dick Smothers for 5 laps until he was taken by Leonard and McCluskey
Did you mean; "Dick Simon?" Dicky Smothers did actually drive an an open wheel car. It was a Formula Ford, or something like that. I remember that he won his first ever road race on the old Phoenix International Raceway road course (originally PIR) in 1967. It was a beautiful Red Racecar which was in a classification just above the Formula Vee. I'm pretty sure that the Formula Super Vee class had not yet been formed.🏁
When Rossi took Grojean into the wall in the keyhole, the initial contact ripped the steering wheel out of his hands. That is why he went straight. Now, he DID push him a bit wider prior to the contact, but after was due to the steering wheel.
If you're going to hold the yellow tell everybody pits you must hold it one more lap so the leaders suffer on their outlap just as much as everybody else.
In another topic look at David Malukas. He had a great performance. He stayed out of trouble and ran a good race for a top 10 finish. At this rate I imagine he will catch the eye of other team
Ok, my take is: Andretti as a whole is broken. This is a super team with little to show for it. Grosjean is very aggressive, but aren't you supposed to be in racing? Wrecking ball Rossi has already checked out of Andretti Autosport and is looking for greener pastures at McLaren. Herta is the only bright spot, but very inconsistent, and Devlin is worthless in this sport. The real problem lays with Michael Andretti. For some reason he can't get those Penske results and it has a lot to do with dedication and focus. If Grosjean just qualified better, maybe he would not be in the pisition he is in. Desperation fucks with the head and Romain needs to get his head in a better place. Drop a car next year and focus like Penske.
They don’t have a team leader. Herta wants F1. Rossi is mentally gone. 1 is a ride buyer. Grosjean is feeling the pressure of Ericsson and being a “failure.” It’s a long cry from the Herta, Kanaan, Wheldon, Franchitti days.
Results like Penske? You mean blatantly cheating or owning the series and still being allowed to field teams. Penske has been and will always be the biggest cancer in motorsports.
The issue at Andretti is: they don't function as a "team". They operate more like an F1 team of years past in that each racer is in it for themselves at the expense of teammates. Penske, Ginassi, Carpenter & even McLaren are very teammate oriented.
Rossi lost grip on the steering wheel when they touched wheels. That's why he went straight off the track with grosjean. Caution timing really bugged me today (again). Palou seemed to get screwed by the yellow timing a couple times, once when he was about to blow past McLaughlin coming out of the pits and another when he was side by side with him. And then after Indy the last two years taking strong cars out of contention, I agree that cautions philosophy needs changed: keep the pits open unless there's a legitimate reason to close the pits and throw the yellow once it's determined it is needed.
I'm 75 years old, and for what it's worth, (and it ain't much), I like listening to you to young ****s. You've got a good balance between a bull**** artist, and a wise guy with a- "but then, maybe not". Cassidy and Sundance? Who cares, that was a movie, and this is real life. I appreciate that you're not afraid of shooting your mouth off. Eventually you'll figure it out for yourself, and it'll be more than just a style choice, "an influencer", but a heart-burning-gut-bomb-slow-burn-realization-that: "It's not about me." Don't try to entertain your viewers, listeners, subscribers- entertaining bored people is like looking for an ocean to piss in. Write your scripts, when possible- OCR, dictaphone or not, write! A journalist is not a machine gun. He/She/They/Them/It is a sniper. Thank you! Laugh Your ***off! Peace, OUt.
Two things come to mind Rossi (favorite driver) has simply checked out that’s a given he’s frustrated annoyed inconsistent with the team it’s just a mess now . Second Andretti motorsports at a glance is not really putting a lot of focus let’s not kid ourselves there trying to get into F1 . The results are not there and haven’t been there for the last three years . There head is somewhere else and it isn’t on INDYCAR right now. That’s just my take on what I see.
I agree, and my feeling on the whole F1 thing has done a 180, I would rather say no to Andretti F1 and the Indy team succeed than watch Andretti F1 at best run around the midfield for the first decade because even if he does everything right thats about how long it takes to go from nothing to something in F1, just ask Red Bull. Truth is there is a good chance Andretti F1 never becomes a winner, in fact that is more likely what will happen, the number of well funded teams and even factory efforts that resulted in no wins in F1 history is huge. If Andretti F1 means more inconsistency and woes for Andretti's Indy team than its a hard no for me.
@@chrish931 agree 100% if Andretti really wants to enter a new series it should be NASCAR not F1 mainly because it is significantly cheaper to enter with less barriers. Plus there is a greater chance of winning in NASCAR right away as opposed to F1 just look at Trackhouse this season as proof of that.
I'm with David on the yellows & closed pits thing. I'm also (as a purist) not a fan of red flagging races at the end, like this year's 500. I love a close finish as much as anyone but, for godssakes all of this manufacturing close racing is the crap of NASCAR and I think selling out their integrity for close finishes at all costs has contributed heavily to their decline.
Today was my first visit to Mid-Ohio. It's a great track and relatively small enough to easily get around pretty quick on foot. I went to Road Atlanta in the late 90s I seem to recall. You needed a Sherpa in order to get anywhere efficiently.
I would love all of NASCAR'S series go to Mid Ohio and Road Atlanta. The state of Georgia definitely deserves two NASCAR events while Ohio is naturally a sports town.
There seemed to be a ton of crashes and yellow at this race. besides the Andretti cars playing bumper cars. Once again Penske wins another race. Arrow cars broke down when they dominated qualifying. Will Power going all the way to 3rd from last place after the spin I think he might win the title if he can keep placing in top 5 and win another race.
Andretti Autosport has gone downhill over the last 3/4 years. They've cost Rossi a shot at a further 2 Indy 500 titles. Colton Herta hasn't lived up to the hype this year as noted by his current standings in the points. Andretti needs to focus on their baby and that's IndyCar.
Grosjean is fast and thinks he's better than everyone, and Rossi is a hot head and has something to prove/nothing to lose. Keep them away from each other
Grosjean is nothing but a wrecking ball shit driver just like he was in F1. Everyone forgetting that and the shit he pulled against Rahal. It was stupid but I can't blame Rossi.
I am an Andretti fan, and I was excited about the possibility of Andretti Global F1 but I think his distraction the last couple years with this has lead to his Indy team being in pieces. Its been a mess the last couple of years, the cars are fast but more inconsistent than they usually have been in the past, they have been having multiple issue's with pit stops and weird strategy calls at times the last three years or so and its seems like ever since Herta joined that they have had a problem with focusing on anybody else beyond Herta and it feels like its a free for all with the remaining drivers and their pecking order. Andretti needs to look to home and clean up this mess in his team before he worries about F1 or anything else in my opinion. In the end I don't give two shits about an Andretti F1 team if his IndyCar team is going to implode in the process, lets be honest it will probably be a long time and possibly never for his F1 team to be a winner if he gets his way and they let him in, but he already has one of the best teams car wise on the grid in IndyCar but all the lack of cohesion and direction will change that quickly. Not to mention all this strife and disorder is playing right into the narrative guys like Toto Wolfe are putting out there about a new F1 team needing to be stable and prepared, Andretti Autosport is looking like anything but that right now. How can they keep looking so good in practice and have such a big budget to not get more results than they have and now they have all their drivers at each others throats and seem to have little ability to control it.
I think the it would be nice to see Andretti f1 but the rumor is that they won't get enough votes from the teams to get a f1 team the only way I see them getting f1 is to buy into a team
Marco Andretti and Ryan Hunter-Reay had a better race in the SRX @ Stafford than Andretti Autosport had today. Rossi vs Grosjean, Herta vs Grosjean, and Rossi vs DeFrancesco is the contact I saw not counting Shank. Andretti Autosport needs to get it together. I wish they just brought Kirkwood from their Indy Lights team this year to the 27. I'm not ready for the Streets of Toronto exclusively on Peacock. Team Penske as an organization is clearly the team to beat this year but the competition is close.
Grosjean is a jackass in the car on multiple occasions including mid-ohio, not saying Rossi doesn't deserve blame as well, but Rossi is usually a clean driver Grosjean not so much.
Everybody seems to be missing that aspect. Not saying Rossi was blameless for the entire race, but he is usually a pretty clean driver. Grosjean on the other hand is notorious for hit and taking out other drivers, including his own team.
Biggest issue with today is the slow yellow for Kirkwood and Tatiana, especially Tatiana as her car was extremely slow down the straight and should’ve been called like Rosenqvists which was an immediate yellow
Shame Sky Sports categorically failed in their Indycar “broadcast” today. The last five laps only? Just because the F1 was delayed… Looks like we missed an interesting race on account of this video’s title.
@@Incognit0. Perhaps I missed the announcement they may have made, I was about 30 minutes behind the live broadcast of the F1 anyway. *shrug* I have Indycar linked on the record series function, but most of the time a change of channel throws it off.
Andretti need to hire a sports psychologist. That guy from the Metallica movie where they almost break up but magically come back together to make millions and millions of dollars happily ever after
Rossi and Grosjean are literally my two favorite drivers, and this was ugly. Blame definitely has to lay on Rossi for this one. The Grosjean Herta thing was just a tiny racing incident by comparison. I love seeing Rossi drive angry, but not ugly, and then doing it to Devlin, too? Not cool.
Ok so Marco put on a Rossi mask and went nuts today did he mark everyone he hit as Eddie Cheever ! Way pass time to pull the plug at Anddretti Racing this team hasn't been the same. Since Dario left and no I don't like Roman Salad if somebody could tame Herta think of how many races and championships he could win . I'm not hating but sad to see a team like that implode
Rossi appeared to lose the wheel out of his hands. Who knows if he let go or not, but it did not appear to be his true desire to drive straight. Excellent coverage this weekend.
Completely agree the announcers are really bad about it too when it happened they just didnt say anything then tried to defend rossi if grosjean wouldve done that they wouldve jumped on him immediately but idk what to expect from the most boring and bland announcers in motorsport
@@mexicaninjafredfred as a British guy I always assumed the F1 guys on Sky were the worst for being biased. But the Indycar lads are terrible. If Grosjean randomly declared himself as American they’d adore him
@@mexicaninjafredfred While I agree none of today was on Grosjean, none of the commentators for the race are Americans and Grosjean has usually been the aggressor in his incidents this season but today he didn't do wrong
I like grosjean despite results the guy is very likeable and gets you invested in rooting for him. I don’t like Rossi dude seems weird. That’s just my opinion.
The Grosjean at Coyne was the Grosjean that scored points for Haas F1 on their debut. The Grosjean at Andretti is the Grosjean that crashed into teammates and cried on the radio every time someone dared to race him in his last couple of F1 years.
I don’t know why people are surprised that Grosjean keeps running into people in IndyCar. It’s what he did in F1 and it’s one reason he no longer has an F1 ride. He’s quick but his aggression turns into stupidity too many times on the track. Will Power is that way too sometimes, but he has toned that down this year and it’s got him second in the championship.
The old school don’t like Romain cause he’s quick. He has more credibility than everyone in that Andretti team combined and the vast majority of the grid. Show that man some respect. Whatever Rossi was trying to do there is disgraceful
Nothing against Romain, he's a nice addition to the series, but he currently sits 14th in points, as the third best driver on the team. He shows flashes of quickness, but certainly not polished enough yet to be a championship Indycar driver. Your comment doesn't sound very objective.
Herts is basically the American Grosjean from back in the day. Lightning quick but will find a way to mess it up on his own. I’m very interested in seeing him get a run in F1 Rossi’s had his day. You can’t tell me what he did today wasn’t out of spite. Poor
@@danielmorris113 To be honest Rossi has been doing quite ok so far this season. Top-5 at Indy and in contention for wins at both Detroit and Road America. And i am sorry to say this but Herta is a much more talented driver than Grosjean in 2012, because he at least crashes for himself and gets quite a few great safes
@@jeffa4133 You’re not wrong he is down the order. clearly he’s way off on oval’s. Could have done much better on some street/road tracks. Fair enough. On the cred thing, it can’t be overstated how many eyes he’s brought to the series (more eyes, more money for Indycar) I don’t think it’s unfair to say there’s some jealousy towards him on a few fronts. I’m finding that people are very quick to jump on ho for every little thing. Can’t help but think it’d be different if he flew an American flag
If you have a driver stranded on the track throw the yellow. You must make the track safe. If someone looses it, crashes in to the disabled car and injures the driver; that would be a man-made tragedy. Do what you want with the pits, but make the track safe or don't. But, if you don't then you cannot say you believe in safety.
Someone said, I didn’t see it, that the reason Rossi went straight and ran Romain off the track was the contact knocked the wheel out of his hands (or maybe he let go) Also, are you suggesting VSC’s in INDYCAR? Oh, and speaking of wrecking… XFINITY has a bad intentional wreck and Cup goes wreck free at RA!
Ganassi is killing it (outside of Jimmayyy on road courses obviously), and Penske is killing it everywhere except for the Indy 500. The 3rd team in the "Big 3" Andretti is on a downward trajectory for sure, and AMSP is on an upward one. I'd say if Andretti doesn't get their you know what together, the 3rd team in the Big 3 is going to be McLaren starting next year. Today's blowouts aside, McLaren keeps getting better at tracks they have been historically bad or mediocre at, and are maintaining good results at the tracks they're good at. Andretti on the other hand isn't delivering the results they should be where they're best (street courses) and getting worse in terms of average results across the board. You have the Rossi slump, Herta chokes from the lead, Grosjean agressiveness and not qualifying well, and pay driver Devlin crashing and not being that great overall. What will absolutely seal the deal for the Andretti downward trajectory is if they lose Herta to F1.
For everyone giving Rossi a all the blame on this, check Grosjean's career in formula 1. He was always bumping off people, crashing, etc. That was his rep in F1 and he is demonstrating it in Indycar now.
So for every incident in the future it's Always his fault because of his past? You are probably a F1 fan and Grosjean's hater...Yesterday Rossi sucks, no other words about It.
Looks like Rossi's bitter taking out Grojeans like he did, although you're leaving you shouldn't play those games. Actually, if he was playing football,... he'd be out for the season!...Same team doesn't matter, he's leaving.
Do Andretti have a problem with 3 of 4 drivers considering themselves the "lead" driver and thinking everybody else should support them? Grossjean in particular, having come from F1, would be used to there being such a hierarchy. Another possibility is that the drivers are feeling pressure to perform while the entire team has under performing - which could easily lead to frustration and thus both conflict within the team and excessive aggression.
If memory serves me, didn't Grosjean more often than not have contact with his teammate in F1? I didn't like him when in F1 because he not only had contact often, but most of the time it was with his teammate which took one of both out of the race.
Rossi just went HAM on the whole team today. Grosjean made a careless mistake vs. Herta, which he copped to immediately. Certainly not an equal blame situation, which is why Michael was zipping around on his scooter looking for Rossi after the checkered. Michael should really think about parking Rossi for a bit. Moreover, Hinch caping for Rossi in the booth today was a little seedy.
Rossi in the end was not going to let Romain through....and for Romain to keep trying him on the outside of 2 was just a tad optimistic. And when they hit the second time you can see in the Rossi on board his hands are knocked off the wheel by the collision. Which is on Romain as much as it is Alex. Alex Rossi isn't racing for his teammates and why should he? He likes Herta but Devlin isn't in his league and Grosjean is a wrecking ball this year. After watching his ramming Rahal at Barber, I think most of the field has decided that Grosjean doesn't get any breaks.
@@marklittle8805 As for the first part, yes, Rossi was going to dump RG rather than race him fairly. Race Control agreed, thus the penalty. Regarding Rahal at Barber, the two incidents aren't analogous in any way. RG didn't end Rahal's race, spin him, put him in the grass, or even cost him a position. Rahal's hysterics told us more about Rahal than RG, frankly. And yes, Rossi seems to harbor some delusions about how he rates relative to teammates. Setting aside the woeful disparity in their respective F1 careers, RG had 3x the podiums in three fewer starts just last year. In any case, if Alex is who he thinks he is, he should have no problem keeping RG in his mirrors without fencing him.
@@kekolber868 Romain didn't knock Rahal out true, but his little hissy fit was not professional. As for Rossi, he has little use for Romain clearly for reasons only he hasn't told us yet. But he isn't the only one. As for their F1 careers, please stop pretending Romain is somehow superior based on that. Rossi drove for Marussia. God himself couldn't put that POS in the points Stay on topic. Two laps in a row Romain tried to take Rossi in a very low percentage place to pass. The second time they hit and Rossi had the wheel knocked out of his hands (watch the in car). Was Alex supposed to just move over and let Grosjean by? He maybe would have if he had any time for Romain but clearly he doesn't . The reality is no one is moving aside for anyone in IndyCar. There are no team orders.
I feel instead of Rolling Start ,,They Should Do Stop Starts Like F1,, That way they have to Jockey for Postion and Drive More carefully to obtain Postions and and over come The Stop- Start ,The Corners and Really Test their Skills around the Track , cause anything can Happen , With more Driver Surprise, s . More Back offs to Keep cars in one piece ( I could be wrong there ) but aggressive Driving would be Pentalized for not backing off or points Deducted , Causing Crash,s , So they Have to drive safer and Waste Less Money for the Car Owners and Race teams ,, and Points added For Safest Driver During the Race ! WHAT DO YOU GUYS Think ??
Rossi will get smacked up by Pato and throw his toys next season. He only looked like a star when Andretti had the best package and a second rate driver lineup (2017-18). Herta exposed him on pace. Without double points at indy he'd be closer to Grosjean than Herta even this season where Colton is crashing too often
We need more of you two. I bet Penske and Ganassi are laughing their asses off on Andretti. Send Roman and Colton to either NASCAR or to figure 8 racing.
The races should be red flagged after 3 laps yellow until they are ready to go. Keep the order of cars as of the position of the yellow flag. Too much of the races are run under yellow.
Want them to do well but Foyt almost always implodes. Always rooting for them but they just don’t have it, and I can only conclude it’s a cultural thing on that team.
Rossi is a little baby he himself has destroyed the team because he is not number one!! I am glad he is gone! If I was Michael I would set him out for the rest of the year!!
I don't know why Indycar doesn't leave the pits open under yellow. It makes the strategy mix up feel more like people got screwed then people played there cards well to get lucky.
IMO the pits should only be closed when the cause of the yellow is near the pit road or the area near the pits.
It’s pretty hard to defend closing the pits. I could maybe see an argument on ovals when you don’t want cars racing back to the pits, but historical context makes even that much get shaky because NASCAR was the first to introduce closed pits and that was during an era where they had guys race back to the yellow flag anyway, so…yeah. I’ve never liked it in Indy cars, maybe in part because as it started as one of those USAC things that only happened at Indy, but it also invariably causes more problems than it solves in terms of messing with people’s strategies, plus you get 20 cars in the pits at once which helps no one.
@@de-fault_de-fault the late great Robin Miller always believed that pits always should open on the yellows on the road courses.
They have left the pits open....when Marco Andretti was leading and likely to win the race. In the end they fucked him to ensure he didn't win.
It cuts both ways. There are plenty of people who wish the pits were closed under yellow in their series because of the advantage people get when the pit under yellow v green.
Townsend Bell said “It’s mutiny at Andretti” and I couldn’t stop laughing for a solid 5 minutes
It described the situation perfectly. Which is what made laugh so hard
@@cashkenterprises5584 hahaha honestly
quote of the year
More like civil war haha
@@Sambysaurus facts
Kyle and you make a good team, should think about making this a permanent segment of the show
My first time at Mid-Ohio and it was amazing from sitting in thunder valley for practice and qualifying to turn 4 and 5 today, absolutely spectacular. Will power was the big winner under the delayed yellow call as it seemed he was still was on pit road when it was called allowing him to jump the mid pack and from there his car was good enough to make moves. Scottie Mac was absolutely perfect watching him manage the gap against Palau and never stepped a foot wrong
I have NEVER understood why IndyCar doesn't implement slow zones. They have the pit speed limiters and there's nothing preventing them from using those on the track. And totally agree; I'm a CART purist as well. The closing the pits is a NASCAR trick and I don't know why IndyCar does it.
IndyCar does it because IndyCar is an American series. I understand it's maddening but once one series does something the others will do the same thing. I doubt all of these American racing series change some of these rules.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld If the reason was $$$, closing the pit isn't going to made the race more exciting. Infact it made the field more chaotic, which you still made money but definitely people would start asking how relevant it is. And it'll be more obvious when less money was made.
@@homeperson11244 even IndyCar's red flag rules are the same as nascar's that certainly doesn't give me hope that race rules will change or be modified.
I agree, I don’t remember that much dysfunction in a single team for a single race. And, I’ve been watching for more than 50 years.
Me neither, not even in NASCAR
@@cashkenterprises5584 I agree. I wonder if something dramatic might happen. Maybe, Rossi fired.
@@ElliottNest41 Somehow I think Rossi's not sitting out the rest of this season despite Sunday's royal mess. He's already got a seat at Arrow McLaren SP waiting for him next year, so... nothing to lose, I guess? Still, it's completely unacceptable behavior by him and his teammates.
Except friggin' DEVLIN DEFRANCESCO. The kid was by far the most well-behaved of the Andretti stable, but he also got bullied by Rossi's antics.
I saw this coming before the season started. You have three alpha personalities between those drivers.
Rossi looked like he was looking for an early exit from the Andretti team.
They should consider sidelining Rossi for the remainder of the season. He punted two teammates off the track today!
I'm a Rossi fan but if I was Michael, I'd have fired him around lap 50.
Also probably could've injured someone like Gragson did this week.
That's your opinion. Rossi is quite good. He will show hos ability at McLaren.
No talk about Logan Sargeant winning the F2 feature race at Silverstone. He is now the first American to win a feature race in F2.
This will be a fun comments section.
As a Rossi fan, I was a little disappointed in his actions today. It’s like his failures over the past couple years all came out and he took them out on his teammates
The wheel got knocked out of his hands with the Grosjean incident
@@noah.s95 That was just one of MANY incidents with his team mates.
Grosjean is a joke. He needs to use his brain.
@@noah.s95 I mean you could say that but it's not like he was trying to save it he pulled back his hands immediately
Yeah I think Rossi could've injured someone like Gragson did in Saturday...
DeFrancesco was the only one that didn’t have a beef moment for Andretti
He hit Rossi
@@timothyheimbach3260 I think you mean Rossi hit him
DeFrancesco reminds me of Paul Tracy with his driving style and his demeanor. Indycar NEEDS this beef more but it has to be good beef, good controversy. The wheel to wheel racing has been OUTSTANDING so far this year and I'm loving a full 27 car field on road and street course. 27 cars at Toronto=LOOKOUT!
Nope, he and Rossi got into it too. Rossi hit everybody
@Brian McKay *Grosean
Andretti autosport problems began at the top. With Michael, He has got his hands into way too many things. This team is stretched way too thin. There is a reason this team hasn't a title in 10 years. He losing Rossi at the season's end, and Herta might be next to leave. Arrow Mclaren is going to leap over Andretti in fact they already have jumped over them.
Herta ain’t leaving… he’d only be leaving for F1
@@dat_guy_speedy3022 herta doesn’t have a super license.
Losing Rossi is a good thing, he thinks he's a superstar because when Andretti had the best package he had crap teammates in Marco and Veach, plus an ok but past his best RHR. Reality is, as soon as top level Herta came in, Rossi has been made to look average
@@dxfifa All so painfully true.
@@dxfifa what had been doing Rossi no favors last two years is horrific strategy/pit stops. I expect Rossi to shine in his new seat next year. Team Andretti is a sh*t show.
So I made my first trip out to mid-Ohio today, that was awesome. I sat in the keyhole and yeah it looked like rossi just drove Grojean off, because rossi just drove away from it. Herta’s incident was also right in front of me and that was exciting
Hey David, I was the guy you met at the grandstands with the Colton Herta shirt on. Just wanted to say it was awesome meeting you dude!!
I absolutely HATE flies. But I would have done anything to be a fly on the wall at the AA debrief at MidOhio.
Your channel is getting to be the best to watch!! I hope you do more of these live broadcasts!
Ericsson had a good recovery for P6 to keep the championship lead after a poor quali session so I'm happy
I think Andretti might need to get sponsorship from Arby's... BECAUSE WE'VE GOT BEEF!
Feel really bad for Pato today, he's been having some really bad luck lately. Rossi was just completely out of control. Andretti can at least feel good they're swapping him out for Kirkwood next season. And yes, that holding the yellow is BS. Hinch brought that up on the broadcast how that decision put McLaughlin in the lead due to not having to deal with a slower outlap on cold tires.
I’m just pissed the Newgarden got screwed by IndyCar’s weird “don’t throw the yellow until everyone pits, thus ruining the short pit strategy” policy.
Today was the first time in a while that F1 was more exciting than indycar, in my opinion of course
Yeah, that 5 car shoot out and LOOWIS' podium (and the crowd going nuts for that) made that race such HYPE!
Super good f1 race today
Same..the "in a while" isn't an exaggeration either..
In about 2 decades
Both of them brought their A chaos games
As usual you've got it covered. Agree with every word. Can't say this season lacks for excitement! REALLY appreciate all the drivers making themselves available to you.
PT and Dario at Team Green crashed together a few times (all Paul's fault).
I completely agree about closing the pits, as does former IMSA owner/driver Rob Dyson. I believe it was begun by USAC in the 60s or 70s because, before electronic timing & scoring, maintaining an accurate running order when drivers pitted under yellow at random times was a nightmare. But we have transponders now, so there is no need to continue doing this, except for a reluctance to change.
I disagree ... Dario aint a saint either... he also had fault in it. The crash at Gateway was his fault not PT. PT left him enough space.. Dario just went up and hit him. Anything else is just fanboy crap.
I really thought Johncock had the win here but that blocking by Dallenbach and Lloyd Ruby was uncalled for. Pole sitter Sneva chose the wrong rubber and he easily lost the lead to Dick Smothers for 5 laps until he was taken by Leonard and McCluskey
Did you mean; "Dick Simon?" Dicky Smothers did actually drive an an open wheel car. It was a Formula Ford, or something like that. I remember that he won his first ever road race on the old Phoenix International Raceway road course (originally PIR) in 1967. It was a beautiful Red Racecar which was in a classification just above the Formula Vee. I'm pretty sure that the Formula Super Vee class had not yet been formed.🏁
@@timford3599 smothers drove F-5000. Used to Bragg he did it while on mushrooms. Total A-Hole
This is the one and only race I can reasonably get to in person, was a wild ride for sure! Love your content, keep it up!
Teammate on teammate action is great but when it goes wrong no one looks good
When Rossi took Grojean into the wall in the keyhole, the initial contact ripped the steering wheel out of his hands. That is why he went straight. Now, he DID push him a bit wider prior to the contact, but after was due to the steering wheel.
If you're going to hold the yellow tell everybody pits you must hold it one more lap so the leaders suffer on their outlap just as much as everybody else.
In another topic look at David Malukas. He had a great performance. He stayed out of trouble and ran a good race for a top 10 finish. At this rate I imagine he will catch the eye of other team
Ok, my take is: Andretti as a whole is broken. This is a super team with little to show for it. Grosjean is very aggressive, but aren't you supposed to be in racing? Wrecking ball Rossi has already checked out of Andretti Autosport and is looking for greener pastures at McLaren. Herta is the only bright spot, but very inconsistent, and Devlin is worthless in this sport. The real problem lays with Michael Andretti. For some reason he can't get those Penske results and it has a lot to do with dedication and focus. If Grosjean just qualified better, maybe he would not be in the pisition he is in. Desperation fucks with the head and Romain needs to get his head in a better place. Drop a car next year and focus like Penske.
They don’t have a team leader. Herta wants F1. Rossi is mentally gone. 1 is a ride buyer. Grosjean is feeling the pressure of Ericsson and being a “failure.” It’s a long cry from the Herta, Kanaan, Wheldon, Franchitti days.
Results like Penske? You mean blatantly cheating or owning the series and still being allowed to field teams. Penske has been and will always be the biggest cancer in motorsports.
Great take
Since I've watched the sport I just never felt like they were a team. Pensky, McLaren, Shank, Carpenter all seem like they have so much more unity.
The issue at Andretti is: they don't function as a "team".
They operate more like an F1 team of years past in that each racer is in it for themselves at the expense of teammates.
Penske, Ginassi, Carpenter & even McLaren are very teammate oriented.
Rossi lost grip on the steering wheel when they touched wheels. That's why he went straight off the track with grosjean.
Caution timing really bugged me today (again). Palou seemed to get screwed by the yellow timing a couple times, once when he was about to blow past McLaughlin coming out of the pits and another when he was side by side with him. And then after Indy the last two years taking strong cars out of contention, I agree that cautions philosophy needs changed: keep the pits open unless there's a legitimate reason to close the pits and throw the yellow once it's determined it is needed.
I'm 75 years old, and for what it's worth, (and it ain't much), I like listening to you to young ****s. You've got a good balance between a bull**** artist, and a wise guy with a- "but then, maybe not". Cassidy and Sundance? Who cares, that was a movie, and this is real life. I appreciate that you're not afraid of shooting your mouth off. Eventually you'll figure it out for yourself, and it'll be more than just a style choice, "an influencer", but a heart-burning-gut-bomb-slow-burn-realization-that: "It's not about me." Don't try to entertain your viewers, listeners, subscribers- entertaining bored people is like looking for an ocean to piss in. Write your scripts, when possible- OCR, dictaphone or not, write! A journalist is not a machine gun. He/She/They/Them/It is a sniper. Thank you! Laugh Your ***off! Peace, OUt.
Two things come to mind
Rossi (favorite driver) has simply checked out that’s a given he’s frustrated annoyed inconsistent with the team it’s just a mess now . Second Andretti motorsports at a glance is not really putting a lot of focus let’s not kid ourselves there trying to get into F1 . The results are not there and haven’t been there for the last three years . There head is somewhere else and it isn’t on INDYCAR right now. That’s just my take on what I see.
I agree, and my feeling on the whole F1 thing has done a 180, I would rather say no to Andretti F1 and the Indy team succeed than watch Andretti F1 at best run around the midfield for the first decade because even if he does everything right thats about how long it takes to go from nothing to something in F1, just ask Red Bull. Truth is there is a good chance Andretti F1 never becomes a winner, in fact that is more likely what will happen, the number of well funded teams and even factory efforts that resulted in no wins in F1 history is huge. If Andretti F1 means more inconsistency and woes for Andretti's Indy team than its a hard no for me.
@@chrish931 agree 100% if Andretti really wants to enter a new series it should be NASCAR not F1 mainly because it is significantly cheaper to enter with less barriers. Plus there is a greater chance of winning in NASCAR right away as opposed to F1 just look at Trackhouse this season as proof of that.
F1 is a joke with respect to competition. This is a money grab of some kind.
I'm with David on the yellows & closed pits thing. I'm also (as a purist) not a fan of red flagging races at the end, like this year's 500. I love a close finish as much as anyone but, for godssakes all of this manufacturing close racing is the crap of NASCAR and I think selling out their integrity for close finishes at all costs has contributed heavily to their decline.
💯 agree with ya
Today was my first visit to Mid-Ohio. It's a great track and relatively small enough to easily get around pretty quick on foot. I went to Road Atlanta in the late 90s I seem to recall. You needed a Sherpa in order to get anywhere efficiently.
I would love all of NASCAR'S series go to Mid Ohio and Road Atlanta. The state of Georgia definitely deserves two NASCAR events while Ohio is naturally a sports town.
What was the best spot to see this race at Mid Ohio? Going to Portland and Leguna Seca later this year.
There seemed to be a ton of crashes and yellow at this race. besides the Andretti cars playing bumper cars. Once again Penske wins another race. Arrow cars broke down when they dominated qualifying. Will Power going all the way to 3rd from last place after the spin I think he might win the title if he can keep placing in top 5 and win another race.
Like to be a Fly on the wall at the Andretti Debrief
Rossi lost control of the wheel in the keyhole. That’s why it looked like he went straight off.
Exactly right!
Mid Ohio is an underrated awesome track.
For Xfinity Series
Yep and in got lots of love after 2015. Hopefully the Cup series eventually races there over COTA.
@@AJSELL9948 they don't race there any more. Only Trucks this upcoming Saturday.
The Andretti beef could be serious at Iowa too. Short tracks breed contact.
Andretti Autosport has gone downhill over the last 3/4 years. They've cost Rossi a shot at a further 2 Indy 500 titles. Colton Herta hasn't lived up to the hype this year as noted by his current standings in the points. Andretti needs to focus on their baby and that's IndyCar.
Forgot about the championship leader going from p13>p6?
Grosjean is fast and thinks he's better than everyone, and Rossi is a hot head and has something to prove/nothing to lose.
Keep them away from each other
This is it right here and I like Grosjean. They are both aggressive and arrogant
Grosjean is nothing but a wrecking ball shit driver just like he was in F1. Everyone forgetting that and the shit he pulled against Rahal. It was stupid but I can't blame Rossi.
I love wheel to wheel racing and some rubbing, but not what happened at Andretti today.
Both are too talented to be doing this stupid stuff.
Both?
Grosjean is a wrecking machine.
I am an Andretti fan, and I was excited about the possibility of Andretti Global F1 but I think his distraction the last couple years with this has lead to his Indy team being in pieces. Its been a mess the last couple of years, the cars are fast but more inconsistent than they usually have been in the past, they have been having multiple issue's with pit stops and weird strategy calls at times the last three years or so and its seems like ever since Herta joined that they have had a problem with focusing on anybody else beyond Herta and it feels like its a free for all with the remaining drivers and their pecking order. Andretti needs to look to home and clean up this mess in his team before he worries about F1 or anything else in my opinion. In the end I don't give two shits about an Andretti F1 team if his IndyCar team is going to implode in the process, lets be honest it will probably be a long time and possibly never for his F1 team to be a winner if he gets his way and they let him in, but he already has one of the best teams car wise on the grid in IndyCar but all the lack of cohesion and direction will change that quickly. Not to mention all this strife and disorder is playing right into the narrative guys like Toto Wolfe are putting out there about a new F1 team needing to be stable and prepared, Andretti Autosport is looking like anything but that right now. How can they keep looking so good in practice and have such a big budget to not get more results than they have and now they have all their drivers at each others throats and seem to have little ability to control it.
Holy mother of paragraphs
I think the it would be nice to see Andretti f1 but the rumor is that they won't get enough votes from the teams to get a f1 team the only way I see them getting f1 is to buy into a team
Marco Andretti and Ryan Hunter-Reay had a better race in the SRX @ Stafford than Andretti Autosport had today. Rossi vs Grosjean, Herta vs Grosjean, and Rossi vs DeFrancesco is the contact I saw not counting Shank.
Andretti Autosport needs to get it together. I wish they just brought Kirkwood from their Indy Lights team this year to the 27. I'm not ready for the Streets of Toronto exclusively on Peacock. Team Penske as an organization is clearly the team to beat this year but the competition is close.
I think grosjean has gotten shafted this season in multiple situations. He was not at fault today
Agreed 100%
Grosjean is a jackass in the car on multiple occasions including mid-ohio, not saying Rossi doesn't deserve blame as well, but Rossi is usually a clean driver Grosjean not so much.
0:47 That was quick David! LOL
Scott McLaughlin is the best driver coming through! Period .
God what rossi was doing in this race 🤦♂️
The replay clearly shows the wheel get knocked out of Rossi’s hands. It’s extremely easy to see.
Yeah I thought Rossi had taken RG out Nascar style until that replay. He just lost the wheel
Everybody seems to be missing that aspect. Not saying Rossi was blameless for the entire race, but he is usually a pretty clean driver. Grosjean on the other hand is notorious for hit and taking out other drivers, including his own team.
Biggest issue with today is the slow yellow for Kirkwood and Tatiana, especially Tatiana as her car was extremely slow down the straight and should’ve been called like Rosenqvists which was an immediate yellow
Andretti has fallen so far from the Kannan Franchitti Wheldon and Herta days
Shame Sky Sports categorically failed in their Indycar “broadcast” today. The last five laps only? Just because the F1 was delayed… Looks like we missed an interesting race on account of this video’s title.
The whole race was broadcast on sky sports action
@@Incognit0. Perhaps I missed the announcement they may have made, I was about 30 minutes behind the live broadcast of the F1 anyway. *shrug* I have Indycar linked on the record series function, but most of the time a change of channel throws it off.
You British much? Their broadcast of F1 is much better than in the old days, imo.
@@JJ-bv2gp Indeed. The fact we only get ad breaks during cautions is great and we even get Tom Gaymor commentating when NBC goes to ads.
@@JJ-bv2gp yeah the sound quality has really come a long way
Andretti need to hire a sports psychologist. That guy from the Metallica movie where they almost break up but magically come back together to make millions and millions of dollars happily ever after
Rossi and Grosjean are literally my two favorite drivers, and this was ugly. Blame definitely has to lay on Rossi for this one. The Grosjean Herta thing was just a tiny racing incident by comparison. I love seeing Rossi drive angry, but not ugly, and then doing it to Devlin, too? Not cool.
Hi David !!!
big fan of the channel
So you coming to my hometown of Toronto in 2 weeks
gunna be a mega show !!!
Ok so Marco put on a Rossi mask and went nuts today did he mark everyone he hit as Eddie Cheever ! Way pass time to pull the plug at Anddretti Racing this team hasn't been the same. Since Dario left and no I don't like Roman Salad if somebody could tame Herta think of how many races and championships he could win . I'm not hating but sad to see a team like that implode
Pato was saying his issue was a fuel delivery issue. He was loosing power before the engine just cut out.
Rossi appeared to lose the wheel out of his hands. Who knows if he let go or not, but it did not appear to be his true desire to drive straight. Excellent coverage this weekend.
If that was the only team mate contact he had, that might matter. It was NOT. That's one of the worst driving performances I have EVER seen
I love how everyone tries to rag on Grosjean. It’s ALWAYS his fault from any American perspective
Completely agree the announcers are really bad about it too when it happened they just didnt say anything then tried to defend rossi if grosjean wouldve done that they wouldve jumped on him immediately but idk what to expect from the most boring and bland announcers in motorsport
@@mexicaninjafredfred as a British guy I always assumed the F1 guys on Sky were the worst for being biased. But the Indycar lads are terrible. If Grosjean randomly declared himself as American they’d adore him
@@mexicaninjafredfred While I agree none of today was on Grosjean, none of the commentators for the race are Americans and Grosjean has usually been the aggressor in his incidents this season but today he didn't do wrong
@@mexicaninjafredfred better than Sky F1 tbh.
@@danieltrovato6766 idk they make sky f1 look good🤣
The only way I can think to settle the andretti fiasco is a triple threat hell in a cell match between Rossi, Grosjean, and Herta
I like grosjean despite results the guy is very likeable and gets you invested in rooting for him. I don’t like Rossi dude seems weird. That’s just my opinion.
The Grosjean at Coyne was the Grosjean that scored points for Haas F1 on their debut. The Grosjean at Andretti is the Grosjean that crashed into teammates and cried on the radio every time someone dared to race him in his last couple of F1 years.
Congratulations to Scott McLaughlin,Team Penske and Chevrolet.
Bummer for...Arrow McLaren SP. Sounds like trouble in Andretti land.
DONT FORGET THE HEAT!!!
fucking dying
D’oh! Finally subscribed!
Herta was pissed off as his crew gave him their "coded" message to pit and he missed it, flat told his dad "you gotta just tell me to pit..."
Something tells me Guenther Steiner is having a chuckle right about now.
I don’t know why people are surprised that Grosjean keeps running into people in IndyCar. It’s what he did in F1 and it’s one reason he no longer has an F1 ride. He’s quick but his aggression turns into stupidity too many times on the track. Will Power is that way too sometimes, but he has toned that down this year and it’s got him second in the championship.
The old school don’t like Romain cause he’s quick. He has more credibility than everyone in that Andretti team combined and the vast majority of the grid. Show that man some respect. Whatever Rossi was trying to do there is disgraceful
Nothing against Romain, he's a nice addition to the series, but he currently sits 14th in points, as the third best driver on the team. He shows flashes of quickness, but certainly not polished enough yet to be a championship Indycar driver. Your comment doesn't sound very objective.
Herta is much better than Grosjean and Rossi has been better overall as well. What are you on mate?
Herts is basically the American Grosjean from back in the day. Lightning quick but will find a way to mess it up on his own. I’m very interested in seeing him get a run in F1 Rossi’s had his day. You can’t tell me what he did today wasn’t out of spite. Poor
@@danielmorris113 To be honest Rossi has been doing quite ok so far this season. Top-5 at Indy and in contention for wins at both Detroit and Road America. And i am sorry to say this but Herta is a much more talented driver than Grosjean in 2012, because he at least crashes for himself and gets quite a few great safes
@@jeffa4133 You’re not wrong he is down the order. clearly he’s way off on oval’s. Could have done much better on some street/road tracks. Fair enough. On the cred thing, it can’t be overstated how many eyes he’s brought to the series (more eyes, more money for Indycar) I don’t think it’s unfair to say there’s some jealousy towards him on a few fronts. I’m finding that people are very quick to jump on ho for every little thing. Can’t help but think it’d be different if he flew an American flag
0:37 all great reports start their analysis with "Well I mean" *sarcasm*
If you have a driver stranded on the track throw the yellow. You must make the track safe. If someone looses it, crashes in to the disabled car and injures the driver; that would be a man-made tragedy. Do what you want with the pits, but make the track safe or don't. But, if you don't then you cannot say you believe in safety.
Rossi weel was yanked out his hands watch the onbord thats y he didn't turn away from the Frenchman
To quote Moonhead, "WE HAVE GOT BEEF, BY GOD!"
Grosjean had a record in F1 for hitting other cars. He was even banned after one race in Belgium.
Someone said, I didn’t see it, that the reason Rossi went straight and ran Romain off the track was the contact knocked the wheel out of his hands (or maybe he let go)
Also, are you suggesting VSC’s in INDYCAR?
Oh, and speaking of wrecking… XFINITY has a bad intentional wreck and Cup goes wreck free at RA!
Ganassi is killing it (outside of Jimmayyy on road courses obviously), and Penske is killing it everywhere except for the Indy 500. The 3rd team in the "Big 3" Andretti is on a downward trajectory for sure, and AMSP is on an upward one. I'd say if Andretti doesn't get their you know what together, the 3rd team in the Big 3 is going to be McLaren starting next year. Today's blowouts aside, McLaren keeps getting better at tracks they have been historically bad or mediocre at, and are maintaining good results at the tracks they're good at. Andretti on the other hand isn't delivering the results they should be where they're best (street courses) and getting worse in terms of average results across the board. You have the Rossi slump, Herta chokes from the lead, Grosjean agressiveness and not qualifying well, and pay driver Devlin crashing and not being that great overall. What will absolutely seal the deal for the Andretti downward trajectory is if they lose Herta to F1.
For everyone giving Rossi a all the blame on this, check Grosjean's career in formula 1. He was always bumping off people, crashing, etc. That was his rep in F1 and he is demonstrating it in Indycar now.
There's plenty of blame for both drivers though.
So for every incident in the future it's Always his fault because of his past? You are probably a F1 fan and Grosjean's hater...Yesterday Rossi sucks, no other words about It.
They have been running Grosjean' off the road all season btw. He does the same thing as everyone else but since its Grosjean' its "bad racecraft".
Open the pits under yellow
Hey baby, Michael has Kyle Kirkwood coming in next year. Wow. LOL.
Race wasn't boring... unlike this video.
Looks like Rossi's bitter taking out Grojeans like he did, although you're leaving you shouldn't play those games.
Actually, if he was playing football,... he'd be out for the season!...Same team doesn't matter, he's leaving.
What is the music at the end of this?
What happened to Hunter Ray..??
In SRX now
Get moonhead on this now!
Do Andretti have a problem with 3 of 4 drivers considering themselves the "lead" driver and thinking everybody else should support them? Grossjean in particular, having come from F1, would be used to there being such a hierarchy. Another possibility is that the drivers are feeling pressure to perform while the entire team has under performing - which could easily lead to frustration and thus both conflict within the team and excessive aggression.
"Remember in '15...." Was this kid even born in 2015?
Spicy.... How ya save the sport!!
If memory serves me, didn't Grosjean more often than not have contact with his teammate in F1?
I didn't like him when in F1 because he not only had contact often, but most of the time it was with his teammate which took one of both out of the race.
Rossi just went HAM on the whole team today. Grosjean made a careless mistake vs. Herta, which he copped to immediately. Certainly not an equal blame situation, which is why Michael was zipping around on his scooter looking for Rossi after the checkered. Michael should really think about parking Rossi for a bit.
Moreover, Hinch caping for Rossi in the booth today was a little seedy.
Or you’re just wrong about the incident. That’s another option.
@@dcsoda1 You and Hinch can go tell it to Michael.
Rossi in the end was not going to let Romain through....and for Romain to keep trying him on the outside of 2 was just a tad optimistic. And when they hit the second time you can see in the Rossi on board his hands are knocked off the wheel by the collision. Which is on Romain as much as it is Alex.
Alex Rossi isn't racing for his teammates and why should he? He likes Herta but Devlin isn't in his league and Grosjean is a wrecking ball this year. After watching his ramming Rahal at Barber, I think most of the field has decided that Grosjean doesn't get any breaks.
@@marklittle8805 As for the first part, yes, Rossi was going to dump RG rather than race him fairly. Race Control agreed, thus the penalty. Regarding Rahal at Barber, the two incidents aren't analogous in any way. RG didn't end Rahal's race, spin him, put him in the grass, or even cost him a position. Rahal's hysterics told us more about Rahal than RG, frankly. And yes, Rossi seems to harbor some delusions about how he rates relative to teammates. Setting aside the woeful disparity in their respective F1 careers, RG had 3x the podiums in three fewer starts just last year. In any case, if Alex is who he thinks he is, he should have no problem keeping RG in his mirrors without fencing him.
@@kekolber868 Romain didn't knock Rahal out true, but his little hissy fit was not professional. As for Rossi, he has little use for Romain clearly for reasons only he hasn't told us yet. But he isn't the only one.
As for their F1 careers, please stop pretending Romain is somehow superior based on that. Rossi drove for Marussia. God himself couldn't put that POS in the points
Stay on topic. Two laps in a row Romain tried to take Rossi in a very low percentage place to pass. The second time they hit and Rossi had the wheel knocked out of his hands (watch the in car). Was Alex supposed to just move over and let Grosjean by? He maybe would have if he had any time for Romain but clearly he doesn't . The reality is no one is moving aside for anyone in IndyCar. There are no team orders.
I feel instead of Rolling Start ,,They Should Do Stop Starts Like F1,, That way they have to Jockey for Postion and Drive More carefully to obtain Postions and and over come The Stop- Start ,The Corners and Really Test their Skills around the Track , cause anything can Happen , With more Driver Surprise, s . More Back offs to Keep cars in one piece ( I could be wrong there ) but aggressive Driving would be Pentalized for not backing off or points Deducted , Causing Crash,s , So they Have to drive safer and Waste Less Money for the Car Owners and Race teams ,, and Points added For Safest Driver During the Race ! WHAT DO YOU GUYS Think ??
Rossi will get smacked up by Pato and throw his toys next season. He only looked like a star when Andretti had the best package and a second rate driver lineup (2017-18). Herta exposed him on pace.
Without double points at indy he'd be closer to Grosjean than Herta even this season where Colton is crashing too often
McLaughlin was handed the win, this should be the hot topic. Hinch said it right during the race
RE Rossi leaving. Did he jump or was he pushed?
We need more of you two. I bet Penske and Ganassi are laughing their asses off on Andretti. Send Roman and Colton to either NASCAR or to figure 8 racing.
The races should be red flagged after 3 laps yellow until they are ready to go. Keep the order of cars as of the position of the yellow flag. Too much of the races are run under yellow.
I saw IMPLOSION and thought it was a Dr Steve Turley video🤷
Want them to do well but Foyt almost always implodes. Always rooting for them but they just don’t have it, and I can only conclude it’s a cultural thing on that team.
Rossi is a little baby he himself has destroyed the team because he is not number one!! I am glad he is gone! If I was Michael I would set him out for the rest of the year!!
Dude do some undercover work on Andretti motorsport and report back.