Shop Tech: Camshaft grinder set-up and Grinding a Billet Fe Ford Roller Cam

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  • @arturozarate1752
    @arturozarate1752 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I sent Daniel a spreadsheet of custom cam specs for an FE roller cam. He replied that he could get close. Placed the order 3/09/24 and received the cam 3/14/24. Excellent grind quality. I was fortunate to get in while they were already grinding FE cams.
    I completely understand the struggle of a busy shop and customer service. I appreciate the attention given. Howard's was 6 to 8 weeks out.....
    Thanks again Daniel.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We really appreciate the opportunity to make a camshaft for your project!!

  • @Mewanrahnam575
    @Mewanrahnam575 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are the only person to teach how the process of grinding a camshaft in youtube.Thankyou very much.

  • @yallainrite3658
    @yallainrite3658 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As I get older and don't get to spend as much time on my own projects, your videos satisfy my OCD side. New subscriber!

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fully understand the need!, glad we can help.

  • @v8packard
    @v8packard ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome video! Rarely seen stuff here. Thank you so much for posting!!

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your welcome, glad to put it out there, as you say, this stuff just is nowhere to be found

  • @higgs923
    @higgs923 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for your thorough and and thoughtful video. I'm a long retired machinist and lifelong gearhead so I appreciate how well you covered your process. 'i could almost smell the coolant. And you're correct about the equipment: folks figured out how to get that part right more than 100 years ago. I enjoyed machining so much that I actually studied up some about the history of it.

  • @SpeakerKevin
    @SpeakerKevin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for showing this. As a retired tool & die maker, I can appreciate the craftsmanship you do.

  • @bookerol
    @bookerol 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really enjoyed that! The two things I haven't done in the engine remanufacturing industry is weld crank journals and grind cams. Thanks for showing and explaining.

  • @colejohnson3705
    @colejohnson3705 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In 1976 my dad took me to Iskenderian cams for a tour. I was able to see a Norton cam grinder in action and dyno room where they test new cam designs. I was told the cam grinder cost them 1 million dollars. That was a great day.

  • @strokermaverick
    @strokermaverick ปีที่แล้ว +9

    First time ever, having the cam grinding process explained. Always wondered, how the machine was set up.. Very interesting! Thank you. Merry Christmas, to y'all.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your welcome!!

    • @eddiefe428
      @eddiefe428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@powellmachineincvery nice vedio,and interesting, what does a billet roller cam cost for a ford fe engine, do you sell them

  • @turdferguson4124
    @turdferguson4124 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, what a great video explaining cam machining and some of the considerations for valvetrain design. Just awesome.

  • @kevinmoore342
    @kevinmoore342 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Iknow Nothing about engine building or camshaft But I will I do know you are a freaking genius.

  • @gerrypaulson9917
    @gerrypaulson9917 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for your video and explaining the process. I'm always so amazed and thankful that people are sharing their skills and knowledge with others. I am in awe of your precision on getting things right. God bless you sir. You are my new Machinist for my next build

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We appreciate you positive feedback!! Glad you enjoyed

  • @daled8221
    @daled8221 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks I've always wondered, I worked in auto machine shop in the late 70's in S Cal doing rods, heads, & blocks but we didn't do cranks, cams or balancing there.

  • @Jumpinjohnnyo
    @Jumpinjohnnyo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've always wondered how this operation was done. I find it very interesting, especially the machine set-up. With your close attention to producing quality products, I will have start buying from you. Thank you for taking the time to put these videos out. Subscribed!

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good video Daniel.
    Thanks for giving an in depth look into cam grinding.
    Merry Christmas.
    Take care, Ed.

  • @bobbybelcher6800
    @bobbybelcher6800 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved the demo on grinding cam lobes ! Excellent !

  • @WA-zl6ju
    @WA-zl6ju ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video thank you for sharing.
    One thing I would like to see is how you grind the lobe and tappers tapers.

  • @farmflipping5887
    @farmflipping5887 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for another great video!

  • @DURRIESVISION
    @DURRIESVISION ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic explaination Daniel of cam grinding👍, have learnt something new today from your video.
    I thank you for that.
    From "Down Under OZ" 🇦🇺

  • @VinnyMartello
    @VinnyMartello ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant believe how simple this is. Carve out your Easter egg and use it as a jig on the lathe to make your cam lobes. Thanks for the video is is fantastic.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, yeah, definitely not that simple, the lobe profile is computer designed and then generated on the master plate in a 1/2 million dollar grinder., but producing the cam after that is definitely not rocket science!

    • @VinnyMartello
      @VinnyMartello ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guess I should have clarified haha. But it’s a brilliant idea to just have your metal Easter egg to grind the cam. It works so perfectly well.

    • @johnwilburn
      @johnwilburn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hitting a home run in baseball, shooting 1,000 yards, Throwing a touchdown pass.... all relatively simple acts, but the science behind them and the skill to do it... that's the extraordinary part. Cam grinding sems that way. Knowing what all goes into that grinding operation makes it fascinating! Loved watching the grinder bring the profile out of that blank.

    • @VinnyMartello
      @VinnyMartello ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was definitely awesome.

  • @2183scr
    @2183scr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! Kinda miss doing this work. Thanks for sharing!

  • @deanmoser5907
    @deanmoser5907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome information and explanation. Thankyou.

  • @patrickmoore1017
    @patrickmoore1017 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good video!

  • @gsxrsquid
    @gsxrsquid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That brings back memories of working at Isky.....

  • @johnlangley6449
    @johnlangley6449 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always wanted to grind cam shaft former machinist 😮

  • @frfrpr
    @frfrpr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible info here. Waited a long time to see something like that!

  • @lawrenceskrobarczyk4402
    @lawrenceskrobarczyk4402 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really cool 😎

  • @bigmuz_pilot
    @bigmuz_pilot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome, nobody shows this stuff. Appreciate it, also I would listen to your awesome accent and voice talk about literally anything ahaha. Cheers brother

  • @ellieprice363
    @ellieprice363 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holman Moody used a manual cam grinder when I worked for them in 1961. Joe Rump was the cam grinder and Fred Lorenzen was their driver at that time. Joe indicated each journal for runout after grinding and corrected if necessary to + - .001 TIR with a pneumatic peening tool.

  • @twgarage-terrywatson1672
    @twgarage-terrywatson1672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fantastic video/ great explanation. 👍

  • @kujonyanthawa594
    @kujonyanthawa594 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cant wait for my FE cam to get here!

  • @mre1984
    @mre1984 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would think your time to make this kind of video slows down your productivity but I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      It does, but hopefully it will save a lot of explaining in the future.

  • @scottcolantuono9397
    @scottcolantuono9397 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video easy to understand thanks for sharing!

  • @RoederPerformance
    @RoederPerformance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool! Makes me want to buy a cam grinder!

  • @lewis730
    @lewis730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @privatedata665
    @privatedata665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang! great video

  • @mikedavis1517
    @mikedavis1517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating!

  • @richardwhitehead4684
    @richardwhitehead4684 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating. Are you able to regrind/restore older, worn cams? I always wondered how that process worked. Love all your videos. Especially the narration.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We only do rollers now, but can repair them normally

    • @richardwhitehead4684
      @richardwhitehead4684 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@powellmachineinc would love to see a regrind/repair of an old, worn cam.

  • @GrandPitoVic
    @GrandPitoVic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow brother this is really interesting. I didn't know how it was done.

  • @Er.kundansharma1993
    @Er.kundansharma1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video.

  • @EngineKrahnicles
    @EngineKrahnicles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I've been curious how this is done, and I've got a lot to learn before I even dream of getting into it

  • @AlloyedFrequencies
    @AlloyedFrequencies 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome thanks for sharing

  • @janbastein7355
    @janbastein7355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s amazing, I wish I had all this knowledge. Great Video 👍👍👍👍

  • @terrydolbow4299
    @terrydolbow4299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like you make a complete set up a cam and lifter set up for my 347 ! Hope you have a great New years!

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Message us through the website, we can take care of you.

  • @erk678
    @erk678 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always wondered how they grind cams now I know 👍

  • @patrickwendling6759
    @patrickwendling6759 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸

  • @thomaslockley945
    @thomaslockley945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information an video

  • @ericdran9181
    @ericdran9181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You!!!

  • @DJTruth_1970
    @DJTruth_1970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome. Just found out where you’re located.

  • @hutchjohnson2184
    @hutchjohnson2184 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! I always have wondered about this stuff....

  • @reallyslowcustom2514
    @reallyslowcustom2514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell Yeah Super Cool

  • @jeanlawson9133
    @jeanlawson9133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good 👍😊 stuff thank you Sir

  • @yvesbajulaz
    @yvesbajulaz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really cool

  • @hvspeed6102
    @hvspeed6102 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great.video! Curiosity though, as this is a roller cam, there’s no taper necessary in the lobe for lifter rotation. How is that ground in a flat tappet cam? Maybe it’s shown in another video? Thanks.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haven't done that video yet, but we dress the stone with the proper taper, but we have all but stopped doing anything but rollers.

  • @davidreed6070
    @davidreed6070 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So grinding a flat tappet camshaft you just tilt your grinding wheel to get an angle on the lobe

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's correct

    • @davidreed6070
      @davidreed6070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@powellmachineinc I've wondered about the angle being wrong on flat tappet camshafts about the same time the grinder may be cutting a roller than a flat tappet and may not get the angle on the machine set right. In the old days that might not have to be changed

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @David Reed it's possible, but it would be a rookie operator to do such a thing.

  • @benrossbach6501
    @benrossbach6501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @elebeu
    @elebeu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How often do you need to dress the grinding wheel to be sure it is still straight/flat?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Once to rough grind and once to finish grind, on steel, a little more for Ductile iron

  • @mikeg4163
    @mikeg4163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool

  • @ercost60
    @ercost60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. How do you set the lobe taper for flat tappets?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We set the grinding head on the proper angle

  • @outfitsgarage88
    @outfitsgarage88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you give me a price on a basically stock Camshaft for a 455 Olds. I'm terrified of buying another comp cam because I lost it because of it whipping out. I have the stock cam out of the original motor but it has a worn lobe or 2.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Rollers are 450.00 pretty much any street grind,we couldn't go stock though

  • @inscoredbz
    @inscoredbz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You just answered a bunch of questions I have had. I didn't know they had different lift, duration and lsa cam cores.
    Do you design your own lobes?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I am definitely not a lobe designer, we have 2 professional lobe designers we use.

  • @cnccams1428
    @cnccams1428 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr. the size of the grinding stone you use using grit

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cnccams1428 18", I think there 70 grit

  • @micahtroyer4181
    @micahtroyer4181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know, if it aint broke don't fix it . But other then the speed of churning them out , any real advantages of the new CNC cam grinders ?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For 10k plus rpm stuff the 8 decimal place accuracy may pay dividends, but the set time and programming will make it unprofitable in a one off shop like mine, we grind 1 cam at a time for the customers application, so unless you're doing 10 plus pieces of the same grind I don't think it would ever pay dividends, IMHO.

  • @terrydolbow4299
    @terrydolbow4299 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must ask you if you make up cams for people? Thanks for the video.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is a major division of my business

  • @duanedahl8856
    @duanedahl8856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this a single pattern cam?...totally awesome video

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's dual, 226/230, thank you for watching!

    • @duanedahl8856
      @duanedahl8856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok, I must have missed something....did you change the master before you switched lobes?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Duane Dahl no, there are 2 masters stacked one behind the other, look at it again you can see it.

    • @eddiefe428
      @eddiefe428 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Powell Machine Inc nice video, do you sell ford fe solid roller cams

  • @Anthony-nw5zv
    @Anthony-nw5zv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if I order a solid roller cam you could make it right?

  • @travispotter8940
    @travispotter8940 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question, can a flat tappet cam be reground for roller lifters?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, the gray iron won't live, and the nose is way to small

  • @smallengineexpert6607
    @smallengineexpert6607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you guys do regrinds? Like my Gen lll Hemi. Thanks

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes there is actually a video here on my channel of that very thing.

  • @MechanicalEngineering485
    @MechanicalEngineering485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good 👍👍

  • @bobwhite4344
    @bobwhite4344 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    interesting vid.

  • @TheJohndeere466
    @TheJohndeere466 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I supplied a cam from a tractor could you grind one just like it. It would be steel billet and about 36" long. Could I supply the blank just round or would you need the lobes roughed in?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      we can do as much or as little of the work as you like, we are backed up on projects, so a std grind would be relatively fast , to turn a spool into a ugl core may take a couple months depending on heat treat ect

    • @TheJohndeere466
      @TheJohndeere466 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would cost be to machine the lobes from a round turned blank

    • @TheJohndeere466
      @TheJohndeere466 ปีที่แล้ว

      6cyl john deere

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      It will have to be heat treated after lobe milling, also does it need a gear hobbed? Also all the main journals will need finished after heat treat

    • @TheJohndeere466
      @TheJohndeere466 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@powellmachineinc it does not need a gear and it would need heat treated after lobe roughing. I'm a machinist and I could rough the lobes in but not sure it would be worth my time. I would have to do it with a dividing head on a bridgeport. I have a cnc mill but its not a 4 axis mill. There would be no hurry. Maybe over the winter

  • @Mpcoluv
    @Mpcoluv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you now sell me a solid flat tappet can that won’t wipe out?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ww stopped grinding Flat cams 2 year's ago, there is no money in them

    • @Mpcoluv
      @Mpcoluv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@powellmachineinc that’s sad but understandable. They used to be a good option to a solid roller.

  • @smokeysghost4759
    @smokeysghost4759 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good information-thanks 👍… Question on flat tappet lobes ….is the taper ground in over the entire lobe or only at the peak. Reason I asked is that a supposed expert claims that the taper is only ground on the peak and this done by a grinder that rapidly offsets the angle of the wheel at the peak…

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct, the taper follows the full circumference of the lobe, that's how it works.

    • @smokeysghost4759
      @smokeysghost4759 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@powellmachineinc thanks …that is what I’ve always believed .

  • @MsKatjie
    @MsKatjie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating. Shame I live half a world away, otherwise you would have my business, small as it is.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!! Would be glad to have your business

  • @abruptlyblunt
    @abruptlyblunt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    way above my pay grade, when it comes to the technical side of engines it seems the more i learn the stupider i get.......