How Much Does It Cost to Replace a Demon 170 Engine? The Truth Hurts!

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  • I recently had to replace the engine on my Demon 170 and many people asked how much it would actually cost if I had to pay for the repair out of pocket. I reveal how much the bill would have been if Stellantis had not honored my warranty. The number may surprise you.
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  • @RacerX9
    @RacerX9  หลายเดือนก่อน +13

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    • @expectnolove9978
      @expectnolove9978 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So I had that stage4r package with Forza performance/cicio performance completed in October and I have 3k miles on the build. This past Monday the 2.7 redeye supercharger came apart and metal pieces got sucked into the engine and it's locked up... So now I have to replace the engine on my own.... Just paid the car off and it only has 11,000 miles on it total .... it's a sad day for me.... My new mechanic said the 2.85 upper pulley is too aggressive for the redeye blower, he said the 2.4 can handle more than the 2.7.... have you heard this before?

  • @ericfaley9019
    @ericfaley9019 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Racer X I’m a dealership tech. The warranty labor to replace the complete engine and oil cooler with cylinder head removal for inspection is 13.5 hours. Our warranty labor rate is 161.00 = 2160. I’m sure the tech was paid diagnostic time that would be extra time. Also the customer pay labor time would be about 26 hours. Yes on an engine replacement Stelantis under pays the dealerships/techs. The engine cost is 31315. That’s only the engine. Dump the car.

    • @scottlagasse3182
      @scottlagasse3182 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You gotta love warranty work!! 18yrs of dealerships

    • @douglowden8802
      @douglowden8802 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Warranty work does not include vaseline , maybe a little sand though . Lmao . The reason i left dealership life 20 years ago .

  • @sstevocamaro
    @sstevocamaro หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    $50k was the exact amount I had to pay to get my engine replaced in a semi truck.

    • @Justtwodangmany
      @Justtwodangmany หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      😂 twice the torque, half the horse, 20x the lifespan, and actually earns you money. Thats well spent!

    • @joelaichner3025
      @joelaichner3025 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Standard , or mountain motor ?

    • @davidthomas3729
      @davidthomas3729 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I owned a large repair facility that dealt with mainly semi,'s, but we did anything skidders track loaders and we did track work. Had 5 in-house techs and 2 service trks. I personally did all the rebuilding of engines and trans and never come close to $50k cost. If the block was bad I found a block. I'm curious what engine and I'd assume a cat at that expense.

    • @sstevocamaro
      @sstevocamaro 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidthomas3729 The dressed reman Maxxforce 13 engine was $27k, and the labor was another $20k something, then odds and ends and taxes all done by the International dealer. If it ever goes out again I’m buying a low mileage used engine. Could have saved $10k+..

    • @BASSHEADBOOM
      @BASSHEADBOOM 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidthomas3729how long ago was that? And what economy? A Cummins X15 is $37k right now and after robbing Peter to pay Paul $50k is pretty standard if your business wants to make money

  • @cjjacque23
    @cjjacque23 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The Demon 170 should of been built with a dry sump system.

  • @Aperiderbones
    @Aperiderbones หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Moral of the story, sell your Demon before the warranty expires.

    • @deerob7431
      @deerob7431 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      HA good one

  • @wythetrumpet6419
    @wythetrumpet6419 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I must admit Stellantis has pushed the limit on performance. Here's the kicker, in the real world you cannot have a daily driver and a race car in the same machine. When cars get over around 650 HP you have more of a racer than a daily driver. No matter how great the engine is, all that horsepower and torque stresses things to the limit and yes they break even in new, pristine condition. There is a reason true race car engines are broken down after each run. The 170 would certainly be a fun daily driver, providing you don't overdo it, because power breaks things, Going to car shows, street fairs, and occasional fun at a stop light would be okay; but if you are indeed going to race it, be prepared to spend big money on repairs. It is, what it is.

    • @mrwhamisrick
      @mrwhamisrick 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Engines that are broke down after each run are top fuel. That's a whole different animal.

    • @GokuGaming
      @GokuGaming 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      race car engines are generally stock... like nascar.. The reason they're broken down isnt't because of "STUFF BREAKING" its because they literally run it hard the whole time and then they use thinner oil to get every last drop of horsepower out of that car making it wear EXCEPTIONALLY FASTER than normal

  • @BroomieIam
    @BroomieIam หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Because a dealership would never inflate the cost of repairs when it’s a warranty job….👀

    • @mahoenui
      @mahoenui หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not correct, all Dealers are audited by their Distributors... whatever this guy says , say 50k is not what the dealer gets paid, fact

    • @davidthomas3729
      @davidthomas3729 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know what dealership you worked at.

    • @nf100
      @nf100 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      and with most warranty jobs, techs get bent over w/no lube

    • @scottlagasse3182
      @scottlagasse3182 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true!! No KY or nothin’

  • @crebbsjd
    @crebbsjd หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Really great service. Awesome that they can do all of that. To think a 1971 Challenger would have cost $3k or $4k for the entire car and with the 426 hemi another $850 or so. You, sir, are definitely a part of Mopar history. Good video, Racer x.

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Inflation accounted for today's market from $4,000 in 1970 to 2024, that's over $31,000!

    • @jeffrey501green
      @jeffrey501green หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@SovereignKnight74and inflation is caused by the Fed printing fiat debt notes....

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jeffrey501greenthis and printing money for their debts

  • @kevz2474
    @kevz2474 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    That technician must have been a genius. That has to be a hell of a job to replace an engine like that.

    • @KoryBrooks
      @KoryBrooks หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It's not much different than replacing a 5.7 or 6.4. subframe unbolts and drops down with the engine and you have all the room in the world to work. Just a few extra bits on any hellcat or demon engine.

    • @Scatpack-kd3wz
      @Scatpack-kd3wz หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      These cars are as easy as a box Chevy to work on 😂

    • @mblake0420
      @mblake0420 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol😅

    • @speedracerjeff
      @speedracerjeff หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah if you work on Mopars it’s not super complicated. Just gotta know what you’re doing of course and have all the tools, hoist, room, etc. My mechanic is dropping a 392 into my single cab Ram, I don’t have the tools or room so I have to pay for the extra Labor etc.

    • @shakerman55
      @shakerman55 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Easy compared to a lot of cars. Try putting long tube headers on a fox body Mustang with the 4.6 engine.

  • @Hellcat-pg5pq
    @Hellcat-pg5pq หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    😱And that's why I paid for a 7 year warranty on my Hellcat and kept it stock other than a cold air intake!

    • @rickcapabianco6411
      @rickcapabianco6411 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wow- I thought they didn’t do extended warranty on hellcats! That’s what all the dealers by my house told me.

    • @TRX2021
      @TRX2021 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I got a 125k extended warranty on my Ram TRX.. It's the Hellcat engine so I would assume it can be got on any Hellcat powered vehicle...

    • @Hellcat-pg5pq
      @Hellcat-pg5pq หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, good choice. Since I didn’t use my warranty, Dodge refunded my money at the end of 7 years. I didn’t buy the warranty on my TRX because the Hellcat engine never had a single issue in 7 plus years. Hope I didn’t make a mistake.

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rickcapabianco6411 I got a Fidelity warranty on mine and they've already been able to bill a new purge valve to it successfully

    • @Hellcat-pg5pq
      @Hellcat-pg5pq หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rickcapabianco6411 The dealer told me the same thing but a couple weeks later I received a letter from Dodge indicating that they would give a Lifetime Warranty. When I called they said no lifetime on the Hellcat but they did offer a 7 year for about $3400 that was refundable if not used. I took it.

  • @lukeallen6444
    @lukeallen6444 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Just finished a CT5V Blackwing warranty engine replacement. Warranty cost was $22,000.00

    • @cbruno12180
      @cbruno12180 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That 6.2 lt4 is as common as the cold thou 22k includes labor too I’m sure at 200 an hour x 40 hours

    • @WineHouse33
      @WineHouse33 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These power levels are for aftermarket professionals...

    • @goblinzl1
      @goblinzl1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      22k installed for an lt4? thats reasonable imo but what would it cost not warrantied.

    • @WineHouse33
      @WineHouse33 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@goblinzl1 factory builders are literally watching TH-cam videos to figure out how to increase power levels…

  • @MrTurboRotary
    @MrTurboRotary หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I don't know but somehow this saga reminds me of StangMode and his Shelby 500.
    Only difference here is that his Coyote engine was worked by a reputable shop that guaranteed it for more HP and capable of taking more mods.
    However, StangMode's Coyote engine went to the cemetery a couple times /. Then he finally got rid of the Mustang.
    Wishing you the best 👍🙏

    • @Lifeof728
      @Lifeof728 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Predator engine

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a predator engine it is a coyote based engine but it isn't a coyote. Also another note some people think all dohc 4v Ford motors are coyotes this also isn't true. There are multiple different ones but most of their stuff after 2014 are coyote based engines but not all coyotes there was also the predator and voodoo and before that the terminator engine and the cobra and Mach 1 motors before it and the condor 5.4 gt500 motor and trinity 5.8 gt500 engines. All dohc ford that aren't coyotes. Just a heads up I see this alot

  • @stevehaynes7348
    @stevehaynes7348 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The technician that replaced the engine probably got around 8hrs labor total. All the little things that racerx talked about that the technician did came out of the goodness of his heart. Dodge pays for the engine replacement and nothing more, not the time spent talking to Star and nothing for dealing with the service rep that came and inspected the car. I have 25 years of Chrysler experience and know this unfortunately

    • @scottlagasse3182
      @scottlagasse3182 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are very right, most of the people that have never worked for an independent dealership doesn’t understand flat-rate. Over 20 yrs. Most in dealerships. 3 tenths to do a recall and that includes waiting at the parts counter for you parts. Good times and bring your own tools. $$$$$$$

    • @TheSwampDonkey
      @TheSwampDonkey 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s unfortunate the techs get shafted on labor for warranty repairs. I’ve heard and read all about it plus the horror stories in some cases due to shorting the techs.

  • @RobertBabb-mm8xy
    @RobertBabb-mm8xy หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Stick with it X enjoy the hell out of it! Real enthusiasts don't really care what the "drop off value" actually is because in real life...WHO CARES? Use what you purchased or what you built and ENJOY IT! That's what we do right? Lol Apparently some people are more concerned about "resale value" or "depreciation value" rather than having fun and living life! Buy it,build it,have fun and let the chips fall where they may.

  • @mjende1007
    @mjende1007 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Glad you got it back in working order. Keep up the great content!

  • @Chris-ho9pq
    @Chris-ho9pq หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for your in depth analysis for your engine. I enjoy watching your channel and gain a lot of valuable information on the Challenger. Thanks again and keep those dream cars shining.

  • @user-zi1lu9xd4h
    @user-zi1lu9xd4h หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing and keeping us updated. Can't wait for the first drag run!!

  • @jeffnoob8448
    @jeffnoob8448 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Another honest open video. Thank you

  • @FaithfulServant316
    @FaithfulServant316 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pray you have much better luck with new engine RacerX.
    you deserve it.

  • @anthonycorley4793
    @anthonycorley4793 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your content. I always learn something new.

  • @jgmullins1
    @jgmullins1 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I had work done on a ZL1 yesterday. It was $159 per hour on the labor rate. Sure everything is a little more in Tampa. Lets call it $170 per hour. That comes to 117 hours of labor or almost three weeks. Yes, some extra stuff done. Never heard of a crate motor taking 117 labor hours to install. Since this was the first time the tech had ever done this install there must have been a huge amount of training, a big learning curve, consulting, double checking, and testing to get to a 20K labor charge. All good, hope this one is trouble free and traps a higher MPH than the last one right out of the gate.

  • @greganderson1989
    @greganderson1989 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jimferrill1790
    @jimferrill1790 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like your channel Bud. Thanks for posting.

  • @bekkiware264
    @bekkiware264 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fingers crossed that all goes well with the new engine. Thanks for the video.

  • @ReignitedAuto
    @ReignitedAuto หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    If anyone is not aware, when he says a STAR case was opened, STAR is essentially our technical assistance resource and it's basically a requirement on a job of this level to open one up. 👍

    • @amstaffmike80
      @amstaffmike80 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wonder how much of that $48k he claims actually goes to the tech for installation.

    • @ReignitedAuto
      @ReignitedAuto หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @amstaffmike80 tech pay varies quite a bit by location but I'd estimate the tech earned about $1200 on that job. Of course the dealer is charging their normal warranty rate to Chrysler, ours is about $185hr

  • @JimiJamma
    @JimiJamma หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why are people commenting about installing the engine yourself. It’s an under warranty car, that makes it a moot point, period!

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some folks appear to be Armchair quarterbacks. 😉

    • @josephvaldora49
      @josephvaldora49 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, the warranty “may” apply if you use the car for racing. Stellantis could have walked away but they didn’t.

    • @JimiJamma
      @JimiJamma หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josephvaldora49 okay, but the car is made for the race strip.

  • @JoeJoe-qq2sr
    @JoeJoe-qq2sr 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Goes to show having your own TH-cam channel has it perks.

  • @MikeShelby67
    @MikeShelby67 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the expert with the great teeth. 100% true!

  • @artillerybuff2000
    @artillerybuff2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    $20,000 for labor and incidentals? That is an insane labor rate!!

    • @richardpauza2075
      @richardpauza2075 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Then You Do It. 😂

    • @007zzzz
      @007zzzz หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what I'm saying ​@@richardpauza2075

    • @gato8759
      @gato8759 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@richardpauza2075you must be the butt hurt tech that got stuck with warranty work on an engine swap and didn’t flag the hours you wanted 😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @artillerybuff2000
      @artillerybuff2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gato8759 ha, nice one!

    • @justpray365
      @justpray365 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I’ve done probably 50 plus engine swaps. I can see $8,000 to $10,000 for labor on this engine. They cooked the books a little since Stellantis was writing the check.

  • @patrickciarcia4100
    @patrickciarcia4100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad it’s working out so far… I’m sure it’s going to be fine… great videos…. 😎

  • @totalenergy80
    @totalenergy80 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great info

  • @user-xj5fx2qe6p
    @user-xj5fx2qe6p หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes a lot of sense to me ,i wouldnt want to change that engine out ,im glad they stood by you and fixed that hot rod , im glad they changed all the oil lines and other stuff .

  • @rickgeraci2027
    @rickgeraci2027 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad you got everything done and covered. I owned and built and raced many vintage Mopars. I own 2 late model Challenger's. One is a Pro Built E85 Hellcat. I had to relearn everything in the last 7 years of owning these 2 special Dodge SRT Vehicles. It's way different and I don't have that facility or tool's either! But Ost Dyno Does! ❤🐈‍⬛️

  • @lemuelhampton73
    @lemuelhampton73 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good Afternoon Big bro, First I have always loved your videos. Now unfortunately now a days instead of people appreciating the value if just learning something they tend to spoil it by knowing everything. So for the rest of us thank you, & keep moving forward. Have a wonderful day, & Thank you.

  • @shakerman55
    @shakerman55 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    And that’s why you don’t take a chance on the flawed oiling system with a front sump. Dry sump is necessary for those hard launches. An engineering flaw. It happens a lot these days, especially when corporate is pushing.

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This. You're 100% right. That was a decision made by an accountant, not an engineer.

  • @garynunn1904
    @garynunn1904 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice shout out to OCMotivaror on your shirt!!

  • @haroldbirge6881
    @haroldbirge6881 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🏆Racer X🏆 makes me happy to see you happy and remember no guts no🍀glory 👀✌️

  • @aymanlockhartable
    @aymanlockhartable หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those Caddy’s amazing machine! Insurance will be crazy on the Cadillac give away! My experience once something catastrophic happens something else will follow up. I sell my cars immediately.

  • @raynavarra
    @raynavarra หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Congrats . I’m glad they treated you right. But I believe too, that they stepped up for you because they did not want the negative TH-cam content if they did not step up. I think the average guy would not be so lucky. But truthfully as well. You underestimate people’s abilities. There are way more than the .02 % of people out there that could do this job. Proper tools and equipment is always important. But there are in fact many skilled mechanics both professional and non professional who can do that job. lol moment, the mechanic went the extra mile and checked everything, including my spark plug gap. 😂

    • @Somanybeats
      @Somanybeats 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shout out to that dealership, they knew what was up lol

  • @ksdxx1
    @ksdxx1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every Dodge tech. Should have done what your guy did Racerx. Everyone pays the same amount and should get the same service. But glad they hooked you up!

  • @gregrumbaugh4855
    @gregrumbaugh4855 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the update alot of us were wondering what it costs truly not some Billy Bob.

  • @perryalexander5868
    @perryalexander5868 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They are on back order until the end of this year, and you have to buy the wiring harness separate from direct connection.

    • @ItsBlurrs
      @ItsBlurrs หลายเดือนก่อน

      where did you find that info from? and does it say that they will be available through 2025?

  • @raywong5454
    @raywong5454 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Exactly correct that engine more than likely drops thru the bottom. Better have a lift!!

  • @carlcasteel7159
    @carlcasteel7159 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please let us know about what is failing in the engines. Very curious...

  • @funnyman1972
    @funnyman1972 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'll stick with the simple LS chevy.

    • @MichaelAguilar-vj2nr
      @MichaelAguilar-vj2nr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have seen plenty of LS Engines Blown up. Especially when Clown 🤡 Backyard Mechanics buy a Tired LS out of a Junkyard and throw on a Chinese Turbocharger. Whatever Engine is Built for Performance, it has to be built with the best internal parts. Obviously the Bean Counters at Chrysler only cared about Money 💰 Savings. If You go back 65 Plus Years ago up until now. Chrysler still has a better track record than GM when it comes to Engine Design Failures.

  • @fluxcapacitor9867
    @fluxcapacitor9867 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That go mango …. Looks so good

  • @dylanarnold4487
    @dylanarnold4487 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m glad they warranty your 170 brother. Almost all factory blown motors will void the warranty if it has a k&n filter. ( factory charger induction)

  • @Trout2054
    @Trout2054 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How’s the alignment after they dropped it and replaced it?

  • @ctsroaddog
    @ctsroaddog หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you see the new one before it went in or did you check the numbers on the block to check if its a different number or a blank block number? Id be curious

  • @barrettnichols4987
    @barrettnichols4987 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    At how many miles did you start racing the demon? Even though the break in is 500 miles it says to not race it until 1500

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I had 67 heat cycles in the engine prior to putting in on the dyno or racing it. It actually has very little to do with mileage and more with heat cycles and variable load. I have seen guys with 1500 miles and only a dozen heat cycles on the engine and its not properly broken in. I have also seen engines completely broken in correctly at 200 miles. The 1500 mile thing was put in there for the guys who take long trips at static rpms that don't understand how to properly break in an engine (more of a catch all). Dodge has already stated that the engine failure had nothing to do with the break in process.

    • @barrettnichols4987
      @barrettnichols4987 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RacerX9 Thank you for the reply! That makes a lot of sense then.

  • @raulgutierrez6415
    @raulgutierrez6415 หลายเดือนก่อน

    oil level overfilled , like the rest before your engine replacement? Mine is overfilled 7.5 plus, what did your tech say about that

  • @Cole-tf3qd
    @Cole-tf3qd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    take out the K frame 4 bolts, take off transmission mount & driveshaft, disconnect the radiator hoses and transmission lines, remove the alternator, disconnect the steering column and spindle/upper control arms, unplug the sensors and engine and transmission comes right out, we just did it, about 4 or 5 hours to take it out.

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Without a lift with regular tools?

    • @Cole-tf3qd
      @Cole-tf3qd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RacerX9 Yes, regular tools, however, we used a lift to raise the body off the K frame, engine, transmission and suspension. Without a lift, use an engine hoist and take out the engine and transmission together, however, it is a pain the pass to get it back in, from my experience

  • @brooks74silverbee
    @brooks74silverbee หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Cadillac's are badass but I gotta ask what the 2 smaller black holes under your hood are for?

  • @nailbndr9869
    @nailbndr9869 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the easy peasy guy 👍🤣

  • @joelaichner3025
    @joelaichner3025 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did they index the plugs ? So the electrodes face the intake track

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AwesomeX《☆》Wow That's almost as much as the brand new SWINGER edition ScatPack Charger I was looking at a few days ago. It listed for $65k but $8k off. It's my favorite color F8 Green👽🤳with Gold SWINGER billboard. I suspected something was up with your 170 when it was pulling out power on the Dyno. Take care Brother🙏🏼Better Luck this time✌🏼😎☯️

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the Cadillac CT5 on the same platform as the recently departed Camaro?

  • @jamesolive3693
    @jamesolive3693 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I worked for Acura back in 94 we did an engine on an NSX and it was 25k we had to send it back to Japan they covered it we had to drop the entire rear suspension and lift the car up it was really huge wide

  • @paulbramford
    @paulbramford หลายเดือนก่อน

    is it still a Matching numbers vehicle?

  • @yodaevil
    @yodaevil หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a 2011 challenger in toxic orange (v6) rallye package, so fully loaded in 2011 for under 25k. 48k is crazy

  • @aliceajr02
    @aliceajr02 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact, warranty labor rate is different from customer pay labor rate. The manufacturer pays a set labor rate that is less than what a dealership will charge a customer.

  • @robertwheatley2471
    @robertwheatley2471 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I realize the labor cost involved besides the $28K for the engine but $50K total is complete insanity. Which explains why I could never have one. They're nice however... for someone else to enjoy.

  • @srt_bris_9558
    @srt_bris_9558 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've seen 3 170 engine chrysler seap in the tx fb market. But lesson to racer x . On tje average person can't swap

  • @jefffreyjefferson9455
    @jefffreyjefferson9455 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the engine swap lower the resale value as it is no longer numbers matching?

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly, since the work was officially done by Dodge, and it is well documented, it should not make a difference.

  • @flashnmb1
    @flashnmb1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone will be glued to the YT channel; it’s not a matter of if, but when. Hope the channel yields enough revenue; because the next engine is on Racer X. I agree with the other commenter, dump it while you can. A pedigree name and hype; with the reliability of a Yugo; nothing about this was supposed to be practical. Nail it; boom, expensive letdown!

  • @carculturenation2166
    @carculturenation2166 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    real question is how much value does it lose not being numbers matching anymore? knowing how most ppl pull the factory demon engine and trans and put it away and upgrade a different engine and trans so the demon and demon170 can be put back to stock

  • @michaelriebandt6754
    @michaelriebandt6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 2016 Chrysler 200C AWD and I had bad Differential in rear and they had to replace Driveshafts hub assembles whole back drive assembly.
    Covered under car's warranty.
    That was $5,000 including labor and taxes, 2018 prices.

  • @bigdawgshowtochannel8983
    @bigdawgshowtochannel8983 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I subscribed 🎉

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome to the X family, good sir!

  • @bige2818
    @bige2818 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be really dope to see someone put this engine in a jeep or a viper

  • @midwestlee-iw8nl
    @midwestlee-iw8nl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is why , I have a old school mopar .

  • @brianenochs
    @brianenochs หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did the tech drop the entire front subframe with the engine bolted to it as the aftermarket speed shops do?

  • @seanmarchiny
    @seanmarchiny 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, you’re a TH-camr reaching over 200 thousand ppl. Of course they are gonna take care of you they don’t want that bad publicity. Or at least they shouldn’t. Glad they took care of you. All ppl should have this experience, unfortunately they don’t.

  • @superphoenix_srt7477
    @superphoenix_srt7477 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sheesh that’s a lot!

  • @nicocaps5624
    @nicocaps5624 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just looked at demon 170 specs and it doesn’t not have a dry dump oil system. Nor external separate fuel filter. Also, a reason I think the car is so hard to launch perfectly is the rear suspension. #1- demon 170 ADS suspension on drag mode: firmest rear compression and rebound. Front is firm compression and soft rebound). The rear end links are fixed and cannot be adjusted. So is the rear sway bar. I think if you upgraded the coilovers, added adjustable sway bars w end links, and changed camber angle for more negative camber then there could be a vast improvement in the launch. And first 330 ft.

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In other words, the demon149 is not well engineered at all. “Baddest muscle car ever” my a**

  • @mustang32758
    @mustang32758 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would venture a guess and say not every Demon 170 owner would be getting the same care as racer x.
    His TH-cam channel generates a lot of interest and if they dump on him thats going to not bode well for PR, IMHO

  • @gabilanplaza
    @gabilanplaza หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My father told me that dodge wasnt a good brand in the 90’s. This all makes sense

    • @Sam-656
      @Sam-656 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try 70s and 80s also😊

  • @09fatbobmike
    @09fatbobmike หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, thank God that you didn't choose to tune and void your warranty. SHEWWW

  • @simonsinner9755
    @simonsinner9755 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful car and yeah definitely baby the hell out of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Wavy345
    @Wavy345 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What length is your necklace? It fits better than mine does.

  • @GMPC
    @GMPC หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you worried it’s an engine issue and this one could go also?

  • @JeepBully
    @JeepBully หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Least you can get help from stellantis since you’re a TH-camr. The rest of us are waiting forever on parts

  • @Brandyn2893
    @Brandyn2893 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice ocmotivator shirt 😂

  • @AcuaNCA
    @AcuaNCA หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many miles did you have

  • @drvr2141
    @drvr2141 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be doubling if not tripling the break-in time! Another channel says that the warranty for these 170's states that damage may not be covered if done while racing. Is that true?

    • @poormansdemon3176
      @poormansdemon3176 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can do 37 break ins or extend time for a year won’t change a single thing. If issues it piles up period. Do a couple quick oil changes cut filter apart you have your answer.

  • @TheBlackScatPack
    @TheBlackScatPack 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Damn, it would cost more to replace a Demon 170 engine than to completely overhaul a semi engine. That’s mind blowing.

  • @edschoenfeld9935
    @edschoenfeld9935 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah,it's not just a swap.Has to be tuned with computer, one of the reason you have your old times still.Deff not a fun job,you can do on a weekend.

  • @VchaosTheoryV
    @VchaosTheoryV หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Racerx, There's a racing oil by a brand called 'Driven'. It was formulated by a certified Tribilogist and has his own TH-cam channel. I wonder if swapping out the oil for a higher additive package would help the demand placed on the engine? Id hate to see something happen like this again. Best of luck bro!

    • @QuicKurtZX14R
      @QuicKurtZX14R หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      'Tribilogist' aka The Oil Geek

    • @QuicKurtZX14R
      @QuicKurtZX14R หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would certainly call them and ask what they'd recommend for it 😊

    • @VchaosTheoryV
      @VchaosTheoryV หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @QuicKurtZX14R LOL thank you I couldn't figure it out

    • @QuicKurtZX14R
      @QuicKurtZX14R หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VchaosTheoryV 😄

  • @eclipes00
    @eclipes00 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Send your oil to speed diagnostics they are great! Owned by lake speed

  • @drdetroitwheels
    @drdetroitwheels หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Paul have you heard that Dodge has trademarked the name for the United States cuda

  • @zippedmouthgaming5637
    @zippedmouthgaming5637 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My usual obligatory comment that you should go back to a Last Call Hellcat (or even go pre-Stellantis on the cheap and mod it). My local dealer's region just lost their tech rep (on that note, their entire reach back chain was removed). Tim K is gone. US engineers being laid off left and right. A dealer mechanic can work on a Hellcat. My local dealer actually just did an engine swap on a TRX and said it was relatively easy. I wish you all the luck if you choose to keep the 170 but brother, I would not. If the idea of a blown motor is an inch more stressful than "Unfortunate, but that's part of the game," I don't think it's an ideal candidate to race.

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know the idea of stepping back from such an exclusive club has got to be gut-wrenching, sincerely, but if a Hellcat will last you and any dealer can work on it, that's the move. You could also do an entire series on trying to get better times than you got in the 170. Would be awesome.

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The issue is that I already did the hellcat thing and the content dried up.. which is why I moved to the hellcat platform! There is not much out that’s all that exciting right now in my mind

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zippedmouthgaming5637 He's been there, and done that. th-cam.com/video/BhBztqTJI-4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=a-7abJI1e2IIEo-M

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RacerX9 Fair enough of a point for sure. Good luck regardless of what you pick. The Plum Crazy R/T was neat as well.

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      For sure 👍

  • @alpo723
    @alpo723 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...the CAR was "protecting itself"? 😂😂😂

  • @apache4541
    @apache4541 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ouch ! That's crazy 48,000 dollar for new Demon engine ! that's cost 48,000 about same my New 2023 Golf R !

  • @registrationaccount1034
    @registrationaccount1034 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sell it and go order the new Yenko 1000HP TT C8 from Chevy with factory warranty.

  • @bigtmac23
    @bigtmac23 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The real question gonna be not how the car is at 500 miles (the break in period) most of us is waiting to see X how is that car gonna do when you put it back on the track. THAT THE 50K QUESTION. anything before kinda Doesn't matter only if the car act up doing the break in Process then plz let us know. Because if that car do what it did before dodge is F! Period
    Fyi, they weren't flying all those people in just because you're special x this is Big money corp business. They making sure to cover their end. Because that car mess up again. They gonna blame it on you and probably wont fix it again for free Warranty or not. so just watch yourself 💯

  • @BangZoom726
    @BangZoom726 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn’t realize that was the hellephant motor in the 170s. How does not having matching numbers any longer affect the value of the car?

  • @frankwolfrum6301
    @frankwolfrum6301 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever we have engine failures all components related to engine performance were checked oil coolers, radiators and torque converters just to name a few. If there was a problem they were replaced or rebuilt. Equipment dealers are different than car dealerships though. But when you are talking the Demon 170 without mark ups the price is not much less than a 2023 Cat 420 back hoe. I think every component related to that Demon 170 engine's performance should be inspected at least.

  • @honda116969
    @honda116969 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the average vehicle yes you can swap a motor or a transmission in a weekend if you know what you're doing without a lift but on a car like that demon 170 that's a VERY special vehicle & race car you don't want to be fucking around with that in your driveway like some backyard mechanic that needs to be done damn near in a clean room... A $28,000 engine❓Jesus God congrats on your engine replacement 👍💯👍

  • @boboakley5029
    @boboakley5029 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good thing it was under warranty lol

  • @RedLeo-pf9yo
    @RedLeo-pf9yo 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always buy extended warranty for cars and electronics.

  • @nicocaps5624
    @nicocaps5624 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m sure they had to do a lot of tuning to get the car just right since it has so many features which ppl forget. the ecu learns and adjusts as you drive. But stellantis also had to diagnose the issue. And figure out why the engine broke. The obdII scan will tell you a lot. But many times it doesn’t bc sensors can be tricked if problem is from a combo of mechanical issues.
    Either way the demon 170 is made to run 1/4 mile drag races. That demon launches so violently and has so much torque that parts will definitely break. It’s not a matter of “if” but “when.” That’s why the manufacturer warranty for this car is worth its weight in gold! When these demon 170’s are resold used. I would only ever buy one from a dealer that’s CPO. And buy the longest, most comprehensive CPO warranty they offer.