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DO NOT BUY ANY CAR FROM DODGE RIGHT NOW. MAKE THEM WAIT. Dodge and more importantly these dealerships need a taste of their own medicine. Don't buy anything until they are slashing Prices by 40-50%
I agree with you 1000%! I just pray that the MOPAR heads are patient. I listen to OC Motivator, Butta Da Insider and Knock Out 360 and they all say to wait, be patient and the “price gaugers “ will have no choice to cut prices drastically or have overpriced Hellcats on their lots while the new P.O.S. Electrified Challengers start coming in.
I agree but I'm up here in Canada and you can add $20-30-40,000 to that price tag, I don't get it I bought a brand new fully loaded 2011 Ram 1500 in 2012 and paid $44,000 with 0% interest that same truck up here is almost $120,000 with 8% interest, what are they thinking and we are not seeing the price cuts you guys are yet, maybe once the French close Charger and Challenger plant and fire every one in Ontario and move it to Mexico then we'll see a difference?? I hope they go under
Also be careful with the deterioration and damage done to vehicles that are exposed to the elements for a prolonged period. That’s what happening most likely to all these Chrysler’s cars. So buyer be aware and do your research.
Advertised prices mean NOTHING! Dealers will add on all the fees to make up and difference. Bait and switch pricing. If you are waiting for extra factory incentives or reissued window stickers ... then the dealers will NEVER discount off of MSRP. Dealers will have no new replacement vechiles for almost a year. They will squeeze EVERY penny out of you.
I don’t think they’ll be able to. The dealerships I regularly drive by have the same hemi chargers and challengers sitting for months now. Nobody is buying them.
@@rustyshaklferd1897 they are still doing this b s. I sent a friend a link to a brand new scatpack Daytona with a massive discount & of course when be got there it was all games & he didn't do the deal.
@@HCpov1 lol not true. I've had 7 charges & now 1 challenger. Have alot of experience buying cars & how to negotiate. Have excellent credit score/credit history. When i decided to trade in my 23 zl1 for another hellcat that was advertised heavily discounted they straight decided to try & recoup the sp called discount money with trash add ons & straight up refused to take them off. So i decided to get a used 22 with 400 miles on it elsewhere instead. Also just happened to somebody a sent a scatpack link to at a different dealership. Maybe it's just here in south Florida that's doing that but they're definitely full of it smh 🚮.
I’m glad they are that much . Keeps them out of reach for most who should not have the honor to own . I’m happy to know that but the high price margin , keeps the majority of people out of the driver seat allowing this car to increase in value drastically in the future
A dodge dealer advertised a 23 challenger near me for 35,570 and the msrp of 43,270. They then said the best they could do is 41,000 out the door….they are stilll playing games …
15k off a price that’s bumped up 20k is not a deal, that’s not even back to what the regular price should be. Walmart does the same crap every Black Friday. Just skip Chrysler entirely there’s no sense buying a brand that has no idea what their customer wants anymore 😂
I went to Arrigo Dodge in ft. Pierce fl, and the salesman actually had the balls to tell me that $700 and $800 dollars a month is the new normal, and that was a bargain compared to other dealers, Arrigos MSRP on a challenger r/t is $50k, but there selling it at 44k, what a joke, and even with my 700 credit score, there telling me I'd be at 750 to 800 a month, and an interest rate of not lower than 10 to 13 %, you should have seen all the inventory on that lot, I hope they choke on all those cars..what a rip off..plus they have a $2995.00,dealer fee, they said is on every car they sell..I say good luck with that..
Sadly he's right, that IS the new normal. The days of $200-500 car notes for late model/new cars are gone forever unless you put down something crazy like 50% down. Everybody these days are getting spanked with high interest and high payments. My 2015 Charger R/T I bought (pre-ordered) new was a bargain compared to the same car now. I was paying $440/mo after $8k down and that was with 0% interest back when times were good and not all shitty like they are now. My new 300C I bought at sticker price (56,595 + extended warranty/ tax, tags etc) and with a 760 score Stellantis Financial still spanked me with a ridiculous 12%. I'll be refinancing in 3 more months so I didn't trip. My bank I got my Redeye through last year only hit me with 8% so hopefully I can get that again. Even my uncle's Toyota Sienna is $700/month. I know a dude paying that for a SXT! Shit is out of control.
I’ve been seeing a lot of dealers offering R/Ts for around $33k-$36k. But you have to go to the dealership to find out which ones will honor that. I think many will, but not all.
The awful interest rates are what's stopping me from buying a hellcat. Even with the price drops it's still just stupid expensive. Miss the days of 0% interest like I got on my scat pack!
i still pulled the trigger on one and just crossing my fingers that the interest rates drop in the next 12-24 months but if not ill just work an extra hour every day😂
@@ItsBlurrs congrats!!! Did you find what you wanted? I thought about rolling the dice and hoping the rates will come down in the future but I just can't bring myself to do it.
@@luism8130 idk where you live but here in California, for an R/T, I’d say like 3 years ago, R/T’s were $57,000 and up. Now they went down to $35-$40K and I actually bought one last Saturday. Has 187 miles already!
I worked at Lindsay CDJR in Manassas Virginia. The advertised price there was always BS. You had to qualify for that price. Recent college grad. Military discount. There were multiple discounts you had to qualify for. They ripped you off any way they could. I ended up quitting because I found out they were changing the numbers on the buyer's orders AFTER the customer signed. If you're in Northern Virginia stay away from Lindsay dealerships especially the ones in Manassas and Woodbridge.
I took my 14' Escalade ESV Premium into Lindsay Cadillac in Alexandria for quick oil change & those fucktards told me I needed $12,000 worth of work (after passing a rigorous MD state inspection, where shops literally try to find work on every car) just a week prior. I even did my own brake pads/rotors (using new dealership parts, AC Delco) in my driveway and Lindsay Cadillac wanted me to pay them $1,500 to do my "badly worn" brakes that were only on the truck for 60 miles lol. I asked them to take me around back & actually show me how shitty they were then they replied with oh wait, it's already being pulled around have a nice day! I haven't been there since. I go to Moore Cadillac in Chantilly & one of the techs wanted to buy my truck despite being 200k as I take really great care of my cars.
Yeah I bought a new Mustang from Ford a couple years ago and they keep sending me hand written letters to trade it in for 8k over the blue book value and I laugh every time I get them knowing it's just a plot to get me back in the dealership to try and screw me over!!
Lol I should start asking dealerships if they would sell a RT challenger for under 30K 🤷🏽♂️ if I got one for 25K I’d never regret it, under 30K miles of course and 😂 check for burnout evidence or aftermarket differential etc
The problem is that in a couple of months, they are going to be 2 year old cars. Even with a good price you will still be very upside down as soon as you drive off
Just let those cars sit on the lot until they dry rot as far as I'm concerned. They're so far overpriced that $15k off is still well over sticker price.
Thats why they are sitting on the lots just like the almost 6 figure trucks sitting on GM and Ford lots. the big 3 have lost their damn minds thinking that people will spend that much on trucks
Keep it and enjoy being out of debt! Don't listen to people telling you to sell. I won't sell my 2018 GT either. It's paid off and I like being debt free.
@@JGL98 yea I’ve had some good offers from the same dealer I bought it from. I’ve been tempted to sell it and get a hellcat, but they’re just too expensive now. ScatPack has more than enough power 😂
Low prices might bring you in the dodge store, but Im sure greedy dealers will have massive add-ons like $300 nitrogen tires, $2k paint "protection".................pass
But have you actually walked into any dealerships to find out? If you know how to negotiate, then you should never pay those fees. And don’t expect to walk in and just assume you’re going to get the best price right off the bat. Pick a price, not a payment, then don’t leave till they tell you no. Then if they do, walk out.
They have a Challenged SRT Hellcat Redeye Wide Body for $157,460 but the Bastards have added $100,000 to the price. All prices are in Canadian Dollars. No Sale .👎
I have shopped several vehicles online in my area. When I get a quote it is always over-suggested retail and then they add on all kinds of junk fees. Dealers are adding 10k in greed fees on top of the vehicle price with taxes.
See bro you got what you wanted and didn’t pay too close to 40K I honestly feel 40K scats are ridiculous, Dodge fan or not. Hellcats should have never been over 65K for slim and Widebody over 72K is insane. A demon should barely be 80K 😂😂
I was just my local dealer in Massachusetts yesterday and they only offered a dealer discount of $1,500 on a challenger GT AWD that is 150 days old. I said no and they let me walk out. Clearly some dealerships are still hallucinating
Oh definitely. But you should never only go to one dealership when buying a car. Salesmen don’t like it when you say you’re going to a different one. Lol
@@billhamilton7524 Then my suggestion would be to do a crash course video binge on his videos regarding Dodge’s marketing antics. Right off the bat they do not listen to their customers! Hey, and I’m not lashing out at you directly per-say, I’m just frustrated with them! I’m a major Dodge fan who’s extremely disappointed with them.
@@tundrawhisperer4821 Roger that , and I"ll do that ,, I dont know much about them recently other than they went E V on the challenger and for that I hope they sink . Its been a long time dream car for me and I just started looking for one ,cant afford a new one so I guess I won't have to experience any dealer crap.I dont really know much about the car and its reliability so I'll have to rely on the internet unless you have any advice ,,I do know I want the V8,,[cant afford a demon} cheers
As much as I love the Scatpack, in fact I traded a C7 Stingray for a Scatpack with zero regrets, but no way I would trade a classic restored Vette for a Scat though. Keep the classic Vette but get the Scat too!
@@henryconstantinides1841 Well I actually started out with a Challenger R/T, which I loved at the time but it quickly became obvious that the R/T wasn't quite enough performance for me when compared to the GT and SS especially. So the plan was to upgrade to a Scatpack, GT, or SS. Test drove all of them, but got distracted and ended up going to a C6 with high miles. Again, loved it but the high miles and notoriously bad interior of the C6 started to weigh on me. Upgraded to a like-new C7. To me it was a night and day difference. Loved the C7 but the car was just too mellow. It's very fast and handles like a dream, but there just wasn't enough drama. I had the NPP exhaust upgrade but it still doesn't sound as good as a bone stock Scatpack. The C7 is a little bit faster but not by enough to matter to a guy that just wants to hot dog around town and make noise. The Scat is more fun and more dramatic. It's big for no reason, loud for no reason other than because it's fun to be that way. Yes the C7 is slightly ahead of the Scatpack in pretty much every way, but the Scat is just more fun. Still love the C7, but no regrets on the trade.
Do NOT buy now! Wait for at least 06 Months. The prices are falling, but 2~5k below the 90k+. However, if you can’t wait, then buy, but I have been watching 90k +Hellcat Charger prices go down. The cheapest I’ve seen so far $79k for a brand new, 2023 Charger Hellcat. If you wait, you will pay significantly lower prices and not get gauged
It’s nice to see cars finally selling at affordable prices after years of insane pricing. Oh course… interest rates are still high and most people don’t have cash.
Thats insane... I was just in Cali and could not believe how expensive everything was out there. I don't know how anyone does it.. it's like money out there is on a completely different scale than everywhere else.
It’s because it ls a liberal state. Look at all the liberal states you will notice the same correlation. I’m from so cal. Moral of the story move that’s what I did. Went back to visit and I don’t miss it.
Dodge has turned me off the brand after price gouching! Those cars are too heavy anyway. I'd rather get a camaro or mustang. Not to mention they get stolen all the time.
Why do y’all always forget the C7 Corvette 😋 and yea I fell in love with how heavy it is, but the prices make you go so I’m paying MORE for less speed ? I’ll pass
85 grand for a Jeep? They must be smokin some good stuff at Chrysler HQ. The big 3 have lost their ever loving minds if they think their junk is worth 6 figures.
If I'm paying 80k for a Jeep it better be a TrackHawk!!!. Those were 80ish when they first came out in 2018 and they're still going for high prices (at least all the rare clean ones that didn't get wrecked or stolen). Nowadays that's only a puny little 2.0L 4XE with a big & really expensive battery LOL.
I got over a 770 Credit Score and the best offer I got from the Dealer was a 13% intrest rate on my Trackhawk. And I put over 10k Down. I was in disbelief. I know the Dealer Marked the rate up. Ended up going through my CU
@@wileecoyote5749no, if you don’t know ow what to look for, dealers add on to the interest rates also. They can add on between 2-3%. You have to be smart and call them on their bs. Best thing to do is get approved from your bank or credit union before going to the dealership, then try to get them to match or give you a better rate.
You were smart to take the deal to your CU. Regular bank loan should have come in the 8-9% max unless your DTI is way out of whack. We sell cars, NOT money is what my F&I guy says. Loves to call out banks, he just did it yesterday.
Thanks for the research Racer X ! Problem is with drivers like me who bought 392s and Kitties, etc 2 years ago is they are now stuck in a higher payment loan. The only way out is negative equity, which will also make your new vehicle higher payments. I think I will hang onto my Chally Scat.
Your sounding like a salesman. Your acting like the price hiking dealership market adjustment being removed is some kind of discount. Look at the comments below " 17k off a vehicle that's 40k overpriced " " 15k off a price that’s bumped up 20k " . Your absolutely giving a sales pitch. Your also saying over and over now's the time to buy these cars, Your absolutely giving a sales pitch. To those reading this watch and see if it gets removed. I and also as my friend think the OP may have been hired to put this video out.
Dude the msrp are already inflated. I bought a new scat pack in 2016 for 32500. So even w discount still 7-15k more now. Buying an rt charger 5.7 for the 30s is a rip off
@@RacerX9 my point is those deals aren’t deals dude. It’s still overpaying in a softer than everyone is saying economy. You pay 35k for an r/t you’re upside down quickly. When I paid 32500 for a brand new scat pack they were 36-42k. That’s how you find a deal. Not listening to the hype
You’re absolutely spot on RacerX. I just picked up a 22 Challenger ScatPack T/A in Maryland, 700 miles on it, and no previous owner for $45k fully loaded when I’ve been seeing them listed at other dealers for high 50s low 60s.
It feels so empty and weird looking at all the discontinued vehicles. I was going to purchase a gas challenger when my Ram was paid off - now it’s all over.
Just got my charger RT for 34k, blacktop, tech, plus package included…but I also walked out of 3 other dealers and emailed 2 before I found one that would finally honor all the incentives. Deals are out there just be vigilant!
@@alanhowitzeryou just assume that they won’t honor it. You’ll always hear about the bad ones that won’t and less often about the ones that will. I keep seeing people talking about CA and FL, which are 2 of the worst states to buy a car in. If you’re looking, don’t just go to one place and give up. You have to go to multiple places. That should always be what you should do no matter what.
I live by Bomnin Dodge. My advice is to call dealers for OTD price. Trust me when I say, website advertised prices means nothing for anything with a 392. I live by Bomnin Dodge, you need to be a doctor, astronaut, nuclear scientist, etc, etc to qualify for the advertised website prices.
As a follow up, just yesterday visited Bomnin Dodge to help my best friend buy a Destroyer Gray with red interior widebody 392. MSRP at $63,795 … OTD was $64,500.
Here’s my experience this week at local dealer…scat with decent options $8k discount. I did my research on my trade-in value and have equity in my trade. The dealer wanted to offer me $8k less on my trade value to make up for the discount on the scat. Obviously they thought I couldn’t do simple math and hadn’t done my research. I walked. Doing a search right now in a 100 mile radius of me there are 186 scats on new car lots similarly optioned. So, waiting seems to make sense for me.
Dealers are not taking loses. Are manufacturers selling cars at cost price or less. NO. Then they are still making money profits. Telling people they save off huge mark ups is the oldest sales trick in the book. Cars and Trucks are overpriced and not selling.
These dealerships are not credible. The problem is no one believes the discount. BS like 10k off then show up and it’s all BS. No one believes them and they will feel the pain.
X, what is your opinion on lot rot? Do you think hellcat engines will be damaged from sitting too long? Im seeing several that have sat for close to a year. Not to mention being exposed to the elements and not being washed regularly
@@RacerX9I’ve been curious about that too. I see tons of videos talking about lot rot, but it’s always on used cars and mostly on body damaged caused by it. Never about the engines.
Thanks RacerX for the 11 minute commercial for your local Dodge dealership, you definitely fit the description of a Dodge FanBoy, did you water your front yard grass yet?
Im not gonna lie, less than $30k for a NEW charger or challenger r/t is a good if not great deal... but the brand has been gouging us too much for too long. Let them reap what they sew. I would love to have a ram 1500 ecodiesel, but i can't afford even a used one (and dont actually need it). I have a paid for '04 durango for my towpig needs. Anyways, i hope all brands gouging their customers feel this pain, its too late to right this wrong, just my $0.02. :)
Courtesy Dodge in Tampa , Great experience with the whole team there. Thank you Miguel Hernandez for your help in meeting all my needs and hanging in there! (Highly Recommended). Another special Thank you to RACER-X for the heads about this dealership. traded my 2020 octane red R/T for a 2023 Octane Red R/T .... Yeah I love the color ... Good luck to all !
I just picked up a Durango RT that had an original sticker of 64K for 48K. That is 16K off sticker. They have some Durango Hellcats that are 8K off sticker, and I saw some in the low 90K range. But still to much of a theft magnet plus the RT deal was just to sweet 😊
Advertised prices do not mean squat. Most of these dealers have all kinds of fine print, hidden fees, adders, etc. Once you ask, they are not close to what they show on their sites.
Of course they are, but customers would have to buy a Stellantis product. Buying a new vehicle before your home and land are paid off only makes sense if you are seriously wealthy. Otherwise it bleeds your wallet of money which could go into retirement investments and MAKE money. Profit is better than shiny objects.
I can't picture any dealership losing money even when they drop prices by 10k to 20K depending on the car.. Any car that is in demand is up by 30K at least these days..
There is a catch with those large discounts which they do not make abundantly clear until you ask about one of them. About 1/3 of the markup only applies to Military and First Responders so that 17k off quickly devolves into 10 or 11k off. Kind of shady the way they advertise these discounts if you ask me.
No here in Michigan. I just did a search out 500 miles from my zip, and the Charger Scat Packs (narrow and wide body) are listing MSRPs between $60,000 and $65,000
@@RacerX9 They aren't dealing, just baiting people to come on down, and then hope you'll still buy since you are there at the moment. Get back to me when prices go back to 2019 levels including the same inflation rate level we saw back in that timeframe to arrive at a SANE and reasonable MSRP for 2024.
Unfortunately, the problem that people lost ability to buy, the times are tough. These collectors vehicles, one could buy both cars overpaying $75K for each, store them properly for 2 years and resell each for $200K profit.
I'm sad that the Challenger is going bye-bye. :/ Would love a Scat Pack! Just can't afford it! Great video, Racer X! Thanks for giving us the heads up!
@@oldsrusoutlaws 6 speed manual best choice! I got my scat automatic bc my wife doesn’t know manual and she drives it sometimes 🤣🤦🏻♂️ But I’m saving to get a hellcat manual, I’m looking forward to get one! 😮💨
People that bought a 2023 charger or challenger at the beginning of the year are the ones really getting hosed because these discounts of $10,000 or $12,000 are going to take a hit in the value of their car. I think Dodge tried to push too many of these cars out thinking people were going to buy these cars because it was the last year. I was looking at a challenger back in May 2023 dealer wanted $50,000 over sticker price for a challenger scat pack which ended up being $108,000.00, needless to say they didn’t get it. I walked out of the dealership thinking they’re crazy.
@@gnd111always best to go to the smaller market dealers. Hell, you’re actually better off going to GA to buy than buying in FL. Unless you like paying those high Dock fees.
After a frustrating month grappling with dealer-imposed fees, including unnecessary charges like paint protection, I stumbled upon the Tesla website. The seamless experience of test-driving and purchasing a car through a simple app led me to swap my Scat Pack for a Tesla. Buying a brand-new car from the comfort of my home at 3 am was a game-changer. I fervently wish other companies would adopt this business model and put an end to the deceptive practices of traditional dealerships. While my dream of owning a classic muscle car remains intact, I’m eager to witness a revolution in the automotive industry.
We put all of our chargers and challengers into ctp until they hit 500 miles because then we can drop the prices another 4k on all of them and 6k on hellcats
I'm hearing so many people complaining by the last 2 years of these cars quality control is not good you have to go back and get you a 2018-2019-20 model in order to get a decent one
The banks will be wanting their money . But there has to be a time frame that theses dealerships have keeping them on their lot’s before the banks start putting pressure on them and I don’t think it’s started just yet . Wait until mid year
In 16, I was blessed to be able to buy a new scatpack for 40k out the door, last year they wanted 65-70k for the exact same car 7 years later? Yea CLEARY price gouging. ITS THE EXACT SAME CAR!!!!! Im all done with dodge. Btw know anyone who wants a 56k mile scat for 30k????
o1 is going to pay 30k for an almost 10 year old car!! plus i have a guy by me that has a spotless 2016 srt 392 with 20k miles for 30k and i bet i cld talk him down to 25k for it. CHEE/CHEE!
@MEQUPWER damn wish I could find those deals around my area, I live in Nc in a small town bout 45 min away from Greensboro, NC and I been looking but I can't find nothing around here, even if it's used or someone is selling it personally they asking a arm and a leg smh
went looking at a wrangler Saturday here's the dealerships new game they lowered the msrp 6k but added an extra $1,367.00 for a sticker that says jeep performance, paint protection, and window tint, when I asked if they are going to take that 1,367 off the price because I dont want that extra stuff they said no so I left.
Buy when, not if, you can afford it, not because the prices are coming down. Buy with a need, not a want. Anything with wheels and motors go DOWN in value. Once you drive a new car off the lot, you've lost 10-15% of its value. Food for thought.
My dream daily car is the Dodge Challenger and I absolutely would love a hellcat but all the thefts and shootings worry me. Can I buy a V6 SXT or GT and be a little less worried?
Of course you can buy a sxt or a GT and have it stolen way less. They really like hellcats that’s because they are awesome and cost more. They can part them out and make money while running from the police and getting away easily. But this is true with any nice car you buy don’t let thugs ruin your dreams just protect your self and your property.
@@joshreynolds729 thanks for answering me, do you think I might be able to get away with giving it a hellcat bumper and or Widebody? It’s just that I love the aggressive look from the hellcats and I want to have that on my daily to enjoy. I won’t Upbage it and give it SRT badges or anything ofc.
@@midnightracerplayz yeah no problem. Yeah you can add hellcat facias on it and a wide body if you like the car frame and everything is the same. They also sell body kits for it. And even aftermarket parts and blower if you want to go faster if the v6 isn’t enough after purchase. I believe boosted lucky here on TH-cam started out with an sxt might help you out on your journey. Wish you the best hope you get what you’re looking for. 👍🏻. The issue here with this is that thief’s will think it’s a hellcat even rebadged debadged or no badge defeating the purpose. Hellcats don’t really make great daily drivers. But you can buy a scat 18 and up used for cheaper than a cat and they pack a punch plus come with many of the items your looking for. And if you want to make good power you can always build it because the blocks are the same bge block in the hellcat just different everything else.
Besides the size of the block being slightly bigger 6.4l and maybe slightly better cooling jackets but other than that very stout block. Mmx sells build kits for that rods pistons crank everything, and plenty of tuners. But if cash is the deal sxt then build the exterior how you like. Ain’t no wrong way to go brother. Used hellcats can be got that are older like mine now 15-16 years for 40-60k.
@@joshreynolds729 yeah, I’ve driven a scat pack and oh my god I loved it! But it’s too expensive for me, and the SXTs and GTs are 20-22k rn in used near me. Or 27-30k if I want to buy brand new.
I've noticed more older cars on the road now.even me i drive a 1996 Dakota. And I rebuilt the engine for 3thousand..and I re did the suspension..so now I got a new truck well old body but new heart..that way better then a car payment..this truck should last me my whole life just like it did for my dad..
Stealership tryna take advantage bc those cars goin’ out of production 🤷🏻♂️ I love my WB Hellcat and my scat pack! I’d never trade them for that EV crap is coming, there’s no way it would beat that lovely cold star in mornings! 😮💨
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DO NOT BUY ANY CAR FROM DODGE RIGHT NOW. MAKE THEM WAIT. Dodge and more importantly these dealerships need a taste of their own medicine. Don't buy anything until they are slashing Prices by 40-50%
I agree with you 1000%! I just pray that the MOPAR heads are patient. I listen to OC Motivator, Butta Da Insider and Knock Out 360 and they all say to wait, be patient and the “price gaugers “ will have no choice to cut prices drastically or have overpriced Hellcats on their lots while the new P.O.S. Electrified Challengers start coming in.
I agree but I'm up here in Canada and you can add $20-30-40,000 to that price tag, I don't get it I bought a brand new fully loaded 2011 Ram 1500 in 2012 and paid $44,000 with 0% interest that same truck up here is almost $120,000 with 8% interest, what are they thinking and we are not seeing the price cuts you guys are yet, maybe once the French close Charger and Challenger plant and fire every one in Ontario and move it to Mexico then we'll see a difference?? I hope they go under
Srry that is def not gonna happen they ainr gon be sellin a new scat at $25k-30k anytime soon if ever
Also be careful with the deterioration and damage done to vehicles that are exposed to the elements for a prolonged period. That’s what happening most likely to all these Chrysler’s cars. So buyer be aware and do your research.
Its not just Dodge, Ford and GM are doing exactly the same thing. I think it also depends on what part of the country your are in.
Advertised prices mean NOTHING! Dealers will add on all the fees to make up and difference. Bait and switch pricing. If you are waiting for extra factory incentives or reissued window stickers ... then the dealers will NEVER discount off of MSRP. Dealers will have no new replacement vechiles for almost a year. They will squeeze EVERY penny out of you.
The dealership I was at had no addendums or hidden fees .. but yes some will still play games. You have to be diligent for sure
I don’t think they’ll be able to. The dealerships I regularly drive by have the same hemi chargers and challengers sitting for months now. Nobody is buying them.
If you know how to buy a car froma dealership, that won't happen.
That happens to people who have no clue how to buy cars.
@@rustyshaklferd1897 they are still doing this b s. I sent a friend a link to a brand new scatpack Daytona with a massive discount & of course when be got there it was all games & he didn't do the deal.
@@HCpov1 lol not true. I've had 7 charges & now 1 challenger. Have alot of experience buying cars & how to negotiate. Have excellent credit score/credit history. When i decided to trade in my 23 zl1 for another hellcat that was advertised heavily discounted they straight decided to try & recoup the sp called discount money with trash add ons & straight up refused to take them off. So i decided to get a used 22 with 400 miles on it elsewhere instead. Also just happened to somebody a sent a scatpack link to at a different dealership. Maybe it's just here in south Florida that's doing that but they're definitely full of it smh 🚮.
It's not time yet. The car prices have gotten so ridiculous the last two to four years that even a discounted price is still too high
Prettt much. The discount that will be given will just be the original msrp before the prices sky rocketed..
Wait until Nov-Dec 🤫
@@Woody2Timeswhat’s going on 👀
EXACTLY!!! 1Million discount on 10million dollar car ain't 💩.
@@scottpearce7466 that’s hilarious
17k off a vehicle thats 40k overpriced.. bahaha.. i hope they go bankrupt
Facts!
Totally agree!!
Yep
I’m glad they are that much . Keeps them out of reach for most who should not have the honor to own . I’m happy to know that but the high price margin , keeps the majority of people out of the driver seat allowing this car to increase in value drastically in the future
Truth
The average person working a full time job cannot afford a vehicle. And its just sad.
very true
Especially with insurance rates
It's just terrible
@@RichOvernight_More like cost of living
I was there two days ago trucks 133,000 durangos 109,000 the cheapest 71,000 2 door I had a 189.00 oil change on my ram
A dodge dealer advertised a 23 challenger near me for 35,570 and the msrp of 43,270. They then said the best they could do is 41,000 out the door….they are stilll playing games …
15k off a price that’s bumped up 20k is not a deal, that’s not even back to what the regular price should be. Walmart does the same crap every Black Friday. Just skip Chrysler entirely there’s no sense buying a brand that has no idea what their customer wants anymore 😂
They are just greedy and think dodge fans are desperate, which they are, but that’s was all the kids who brought them to vlog with 🤷🏽♂️
referring to the E V challenger ?
Much like Circuit City used to do, and we know how that ended.
@@billhamilton7524 no that is referring to Chrysler as a whole, as stated.
I went to Arrigo Dodge in ft. Pierce fl, and the salesman actually had the balls to tell me that $700 and $800 dollars a month is the new normal, and that was a bargain compared to other dealers, Arrigos MSRP on a challenger r/t is $50k, but there selling it at 44k, what a joke, and even with my 700 credit score, there telling me I'd be at 750 to 800 a month, and an interest rate of not lower than 10 to 13 %, you should have seen all the inventory on that lot, I hope they choke on all those cars..what a rip off..plus they have a $2995.00,dealer fee, they said is on every car they sell..I say good luck with that..
Well he’s not lying the average new car payment is in the 700s and APR in the high 5s
@@antonioreyes4322If I remember correctly, when I bought my Tundra in 2006 the payment was $500 a month so 700 to 800 sounds about right.
Don't worry, when the sheet does hit the fan, a lot of businesses are going to feel the splatter.
My r/t was 30k 53k miles
Sadly he's right, that IS the new normal. The days of $200-500 car notes for late model/new cars are gone forever unless you put down something crazy like 50% down. Everybody these days are getting spanked with high interest and high payments. My 2015 Charger R/T I bought (pre-ordered) new was a bargain compared to the same car now. I was paying $440/mo after $8k down and that was with 0% interest back when times were good and not all shitty like they are now. My new 300C I bought at sticker price (56,595 + extended warranty/ tax, tags etc) and with a 760 score Stellantis Financial still spanked me with a ridiculous 12%. I'll be refinancing in 3 more months so I didn't trip. My bank I got my Redeye through last year only hit me with 8% so hopefully I can get that again. Even my uncle's Toyota Sienna is $700/month. I know a dude paying that for a SXT! Shit is out of control.
lol no one should pay 48k for an rt 😂 mid 30s is what they were originally priced 3 years ago and nothing changed in them.
I’ve been seeing a lot of dealers offering R/Ts for around $33k-$36k. But you have to go to the dealership to find out which ones will honor that. I think many will, but not all.
dude at my dealership they are asking $50k for 2023 rts
It’s called Bidenflation. Printing Monopoly money for a war halfway around the world and laundering it as the kicker back to himself!
Literally nothings changed but the price
LoL, In 2019 I bought a brandnew Charger Scatpack for 36k$ straight from the dodge dealership.... nobody looked at R/T's
The awful interest rates are what's stopping me from buying a hellcat. Even with the price drops it's still just stupid expensive. Miss the days of 0% interest like I got on my scat pack!
i still pulled the trigger on one and just crossing my fingers that the interest rates drop in the next 12-24 months but if not ill just work an extra hour every day😂
It ought to be insurance your scared of
@@ItsBlurrs congrats!!! Did you find what you wanted? I thought about rolling the dice and hoping the rates will come down in the future but I just can't bring myself to do it.
@@chautauquawash7470I did get a quote. it would of been $8 more per month lol no accidents or speeding tickets from the wife or I but plenty deserved!
Best my credit union offers is 4.25% New and 5.25% used and sure if that’s still good on a 50k-65k widebody
id wait till the going out of business sales that are coming.
You work for Dodge bro? Prices still high as hell, hold the line let them sit, way to high yet
Prices still too high? You can get an R/T for $34,000 - $40,000
@@mydadworksforepicgamesyou used to be able to get a scat for that. It’s the same car.
@@luism8130 idk where you live but here in California, for an R/T, I’d say like 3 years ago, R/T’s were $57,000 and up. Now they went down to $35-$40K and I actually bought one last Saturday. Has 187 miles already!
I worked at Lindsay CDJR in Manassas Virginia. The advertised price there was always BS. You had to qualify for that price. Recent college grad. Military discount. There were multiple discounts you had to qualify for. They ripped you off any way they could. I ended up quitting because I found out they were changing the numbers on the buyer's orders AFTER the customer signed. If you're in Northern Virginia stay away from Lindsay dealerships especially the ones in Manassas and Woodbridge.
Sorry to hear that buddy!
There were some exposes on TV about other dealerships doing that.
I took my 14' Escalade ESV Premium into Lindsay Cadillac in Alexandria for quick oil change & those fucktards told me I needed $12,000 worth of work (after passing a rigorous MD state inspection, where shops literally try to find work on every car) just a week prior. I even did my own brake pads/rotors (using new dealership parts, AC Delco) in my driveway and Lindsay Cadillac wanted me to pay them $1,500 to do my "badly worn" brakes that were only on the truck for 60 miles lol. I asked them to take me around back & actually show me how shitty they were then they replied with oh wait, it's already being pulled around have a nice day! I haven't been there since. I go to Moore Cadillac in Chantilly & one of the techs wanted to buy my truck despite being 200k as I take really great care of my cars.
they raise the price 30 percent and now want to lower the price 10 percent. lol. sounds like gas prices.lol
and remember this are 2023 not 2024
You can thank the Joe Biden Administration! Bring back a 2nd. generation Dodge Dart!
@@johnbeckham1483 buy a japanese car, please
@@drury2d8Not a Nissan.
So, do you wait the gas prices will decrease? And what about everything else?
The online pricing means nothing. When you walk in to buy that car mysteriously that car no longer exists and was a "one off special deal"..
Yes, I get the feeling that is what the dealers are doing with their prices. Bait and switch.
Exactly, Bait and Switch Bullshit.
Yeah I bought a new Mustang from Ford a couple years ago and they keep sending me hand written letters to trade it in for 8k over the blue book value and I laugh every time I get them knowing it's just a plot to get me back in the dealership to try and screw me over!!
All the dealerships I regularly drive by have the same hemi chargers and challengers sitting where they were 5 months ago. Nobody is buying them.
Well duh. 🤦♂️
Lol I should start asking dealerships if they would sell a RT challenger for under 30K 🤷🏽♂️ if I got one for 25K I’d never regret it, under 30K miles of course and 😂 check for burnout evidence or aftermarket differential etc
The problem is that in a couple of months, they are going to be 2 year old cars. Even with a good price you will still be very upside down as soon as you drive off
Just let those cars sit on the lot until they dry rot as far as I'm concerned. They're so far overpriced that $15k off is still well over sticker price.
6 figures for a Dodge! I wouldn't be able to sleep at night paying that much for any Dodge
Acr
maybe a viper but demons and hellcats are complete ripoffs. way cheaper to build your own
Thats why they are sitting on the lots just like the almost 6 figure trucks sitting on GM and Ford lots. the big 3 have lost their damn minds thinking that people will spend that much on trucks
To spend that much for a vehicle means price is no object.
Then it’s not for you obviously
Just paid off my ScatPack Challenger🙌 I’m so glad I bought it before the pandemic at $34K . The prices now for ScatPacks are too high
you can surely get close to what you paid if you sell, nice deal 👍🏼
Keep it and enjoy being out of debt! Don't listen to people telling you to sell. I won't sell my 2018 GT either. It's paid off and I like being debt free.
Cap even before pandemic scats werenot that low unless u bought it used
@@ThatsMyDawgFashoScats were like $40k-45k around dat time. If I had known about different trims i would’ve grabbed one instead of a SXT
@@JGL98 yea I’ve had some good offers from the same dealer I bought it from. I’ve been tempted to sell it and get a hellcat, but they’re just too expensive now. ScatPack has more than enough power 😂
That's why I keep my 2008 RAM 3500 running, cause I can't/won't pay 80 plus for a truck.
Hell that's new, my 3500 is a 98😊
Love it @@qdogbenson3112
Yep
I got a 2001 dodge ram truck lifted I'm waiting to I want a trx but they are to expensive now
Still got my 05 Ram SRT10
Low prices might bring you in the dodge store, but Im sure greedy dealers will have massive add-ons like $300 nitrogen tires, $2k paint "protection".................pass
And that's when u C walk on your way out with the one finger salute
Then just say you don’t need that ez
But have you actually walked into any dealerships to find out? If you know how to negotiate, then you should never pay those fees. And don’t expect to walk in and just assume you’re going to get the best price right off the bat. Pick a price, not a payment, then don’t leave till they tell you no. Then if they do, walk out.
X when they offer 0 financing or even 1.9 percent, they will clear the lots. Finance rate controls everything
Not at 60K to 100K.
They have a Challenged SRT Hellcat Redeye Wide Body for $157,460 but the Bastards have added $100,000 to the price. All prices are in Canadian Dollars. No Sale .👎
I have shopped several vehicles online in my area. When I get a quote it is always over-suggested retail and then they add on all kinds of junk fees. Dealers are adding 10k in greed fees on top of the vehicle price with taxes.
LOL. I paid $36K for my 2019 scatpack charger back in 2019 with 800 miles. Let's see those prices again.
See bro you got what you wanted and didn’t pay too close to 40K I honestly feel 40K scats are ridiculous, Dodge fan or not. Hellcats should have never been over 65K for slim and Widebody over 72K is insane. A demon should barely be 80K 😂😂
Hopefully never. All the economy based on price increase and not on the price crash.
I was just my local dealer in Massachusetts yesterday and they only offered a dealer discount of $1,500 on a challenger GT AWD that is 150 days old. I said no and they let me walk out. Clearly some dealerships are still hallucinating
Oh definitely. But you should never only go to one dealership when buying a car. Salesmen don’t like it when you say you’re going to a different one. Lol
@@Coonazz791 100% shopping around. They can hold on to that car for another 150 days, it's not $ out of my pocket lol
@@kingl9801 well, except for lots of rot. That’s going to be the bigger issue with these cars once they do drop the prices more unfortunately.
They won't do anything. Hold the line!
@@kingl9801cool story
It’s not OFF msrp, it’s OFF resell and markups. Exactly how brands go bankrupt. Keep it up dodge,jeep ,ram and you’ll end up just like Pontiac
"Yes, but we have lowered our Donuts and Hotdogs fee from $1995 to $995."
New 2023 challenger scat pack wide body here in Ontario Canada $76,000-79,000. Absolute insanity. Not budging 0 incentives !!!
Why the fuck would I want to buy from Dodge after this bullshit they pulled? The hell with them!
what did they do ,,serious question
@@billhamilton7524 Seriously?? Do you not watch Racer X videos to follow all of the crap Dodge has done?
@@tundrawhisperer4821 Apparently not genius ,thats why I asked ,,WTF
And all I know about Racer X is he was Speed Racers older brother ,
@@billhamilton7524 Then my suggestion would be to do a crash course video binge on his videos regarding Dodge’s marketing antics. Right off the bat they do not listen to their customers! Hey, and I’m not lashing out at you directly per-say, I’m just frustrated with them! I’m a major Dodge fan who’s extremely disappointed with them.
@@tundrawhisperer4821 Roger that , and I"ll do that ,, I dont know much about them recently other than they went E V on the challenger and for that I hope they sink .
Its been a long time dream car for me and I just started looking for one ,cant afford a new one so I guess I won't have to experience any dealer crap.I dont really know much about the car and its reliability so I'll have to rely on the internet unless you have any advice ,,I do know I want the V8,,[cant afford a demon}
cheers
I literally had a Dodge dealer offer me a straight trade for a 392 Challenget for my old restored Corvette.....Hell no...
As much as I love the Scatpack, in fact I traded a C7 Stingray for a Scatpack with zero regrets, but no way I would trade a classic restored Vette for a Scat though. Keep the classic Vette but get the Scat too!
@@twiceonsundaysout of curiosity what made swap the c7 for a scatpack?
@@henryconstantinides1841 Well I actually started out with a Challenger R/T, which I loved at the time but it quickly became obvious that the R/T wasn't quite enough performance for me when compared to the GT and SS especially. So the plan was to upgrade to a Scatpack, GT, or SS. Test drove all of them, but got distracted and ended up going to a C6 with high miles. Again, loved it but the high miles and notoriously bad interior of the C6 started to weigh on me. Upgraded to a like-new C7. To me it was a night and day difference. Loved the C7 but the car was just too mellow. It's very fast and handles like a dream, but there just wasn't enough drama. I had the NPP exhaust upgrade but it still doesn't sound as good as a bone stock Scatpack. The C7 is a little bit faster but not by enough to matter to a guy that just wants to hot dog around town and make noise. The Scat is more fun and more dramatic. It's big for no reason, loud for no reason other than because it's fun to be that way. Yes the C7 is slightly ahead of the Scatpack in pretty much every way, but the Scat is just more fun. Still love the C7, but no regrets on the trade.
Local St Louis dealer had $12K off R/T Charger (not SCAT Pack) and was still $44K. Cheapest SCAT Pack with $12K discount was $55K.
I drive 150 miles a day to work, and I have never seen a hornet on the road.
Hell, I’m a truck driver and have yet to see one. 😂
I was just thinking the same thing! Do we never see them, or do they just blend in to an endless sea of boring crossovers?
Check a Dodge service bay.
I have only seen a couple of the Alfa Romeo
Siblings on the road but no hornets yet.
@@ROB-12013 hell, the first Alfa Romeo I ever saw was the one I was given as a rental car about a month ago. 😂
Do NOT buy now! Wait for at least 06 Months. The prices are falling, but 2~5k below the 90k+. However, if you can’t wait, then buy, but I have been watching 90k +Hellcat Charger prices go down. The cheapest I’ve seen so far $79k for a brand new, 2023 Charger Hellcat. If you wait, you will pay significantly lower prices and not get gauged
It’s nice to see cars finally selling at affordable prices after years of insane pricing. Oh course… interest rates are still high and most people don’t have cash.
😂 Not the dealers in Southern California. They are sky high and holding.
Thats insane... I was just in Cali and could not believe how expensive everything was out there. I don't know how anyone does it.. it's like money out there is on a completely different scale than everywhere else.
Texas is the way
@@RacerX9 yeah, this is not an affordable place to live by any means. Everything is out of control.
It’s because it ls a liberal state. Look at all the liberal states you will notice the same correlation. I’m from so cal. Moral of the story move that’s what I did. Went back to visit and I don’t miss it.
There’s a 6 speed widebody Scatpack at Huntington Beach Dodge selling for $125 k 😂
Keep waiting until end of this year, it will be even greater deals
Ontario Canada dealers never got the memo about discounts.
Not in Canada. RTs are in the high $50-low$60K range. Scats are in the $70s-$80K range and there are no Hellcats below $110K.
Dodge has turned me off the brand after price gouching! Those cars are too heavy anyway. I'd rather get a camaro or mustang. Not to mention they get stolen all the time.
That more depends on where you live. If you’re in a large city, then yes they do get stolen.
If you want a new Camaro, you better get busy. They are almost gone.
Why do y’all always forget the C7 Corvette 😋 and yea I fell in love with how heavy it is, but the prices make you go so I’m paying MORE for less speed ? I’ll pass
Car thieves are targeted Camaros now 👀
@@Woody2Times this might surprise you, but there are a lot of people that don’t like corvettes. Lol
Don’t buy anything until interest rates come back to reality
85 grand for a Jeep? They must be smokin some good stuff at Chrysler HQ. The big 3 have lost their ever loving minds if they think their junk is worth 6 figures.
If I'm paying 80k for a Jeep it better be a TrackHawk!!!. Those were 80ish when they first came out in 2018 and they're still going for high prices (at least all the rare clean ones that didn't get wrecked or stolen). Nowadays that's only a puny little 2.0L 4XE with a big & really expensive battery LOL.
Hold the line!
Smart folks will wait.... not many of us though.😂
Love isn’t always on time!
I got over a 770 Credit Score and the best offer I got from the Dealer was a 13% intrest rate on my Trackhawk. And I put over 10k Down. I was in disbelief. I know the Dealer Marked the rate up. Ended up going through my CU
They dont control interest rate,the Fed does.
@@wileecoyote5749 the dealer can mark the Intrest rate up with the banks they work with. Look it up.
@@wileecoyote5749no, if you don’t know ow what to look for, dealers add on to the interest rates also. They can add on between 2-3%. You have to be smart and call them on their bs. Best thing to do is get approved from your bank or credit union before going to the dealership, then try to get them to match or give you a better rate.
You were smart to take the deal to your CU. Regular bank loan should have come in the 8-9% max unless your DTI is way out of whack. We sell cars, NOT money is what my F&I guy says. Loves to call out banks, he just did it yesterday.
Yes, some don't know, but the dealer takes the "banks" interest rate and adds their own bit to get a constant kickback..
Thanks for the research Racer X ! Problem is with drivers like me who bought 392s and Kitties, etc 2 years ago is they are now stuck in a higher payment loan. The only way out is negative equity, which will also make your new vehicle higher payments. I think I will hang onto my Chally Scat.
Thank you Paul I am actually patiently waiting on price decrease for a new 2500 Power Wagon
I wish they would get rid of that dial shifter on the Ram 1500's. Such a cool truck
Your sounding like a salesman. Your acting like the price hiking dealership market adjustment being removed is some kind of discount. Look at the comments below " 17k off a vehicle that's 40k overpriced " " 15k off a price that’s bumped up 20k " . Your absolutely giving a sales pitch. Your also saying over and over now's the time to buy these cars, Your absolutely giving a sales pitch. To those reading this watch and see if it gets removed. I and also as my friend think the OP may have been hired to put this video out.
Dude the msrp are already inflated. I bought a new scat pack in 2016 for 32500. So even w discount still 7-15k more now. Buying an rt charger 5.7 for the 30s is a rip off
Good thing nothing has gone up in price at all over the last several years
@@RacerX9 my point is those deals aren’t deals dude. It’s still overpaying in a softer than everyone is saying economy. You pay 35k for an r/t you’re upside down quickly. When I paid 32500 for a brand new scat pack they were 36-42k. That’s how you find a deal. Not listening to the hype
You’re absolutely spot on RacerX. I just picked up a 22 Challenger ScatPack T/A in Maryland, 700 miles on it, and no previous owner for $45k fully loaded when I’ve been seeing them listed at other dealers for high 50s low 60s.
Meh not that good tbh, if it was a widebody it would be
@@Murphys_Law9 And I really don’t give a shit what you think
NICE JOB BROTHER, GREAT DEAL AND YOU ARE THE ORIGINAL OWNER 💯👍 DO YOU STILL GET THE WARRANTY WITH IT TOO❓👏👏💯👍@@RonRon18470
@RonRon18470 Dude you scored!
How much was that F8 green Widebody Scat?
It feels so empty and weird looking at all the discontinued vehicles.
I was going to purchase a gas challenger when my Ram was paid off - now it’s all over.
Now is the WORST TIME to buy a car. Wait until LABOR DAY
Just got my charger RT for 34k, blacktop, tech, plus package included…but I also walked out of 3 other dealers and emailed 2 before I found one that would finally honor all the incentives. Deals are out there just be vigilant!
Was that a 2023 with the 0 apr ?
I guess I'll just have to go to Florida and buy one there 😅and tell them Racer X sent me and get another 15 percent off😂
Florida is one of the worst states to buy a car and is notorious for high "doc" fee's and massive "advantage plans".
My local delaership has cut 10K on some of the Hellcats...prices are starting to drop hard.
What dealership? I’ll buy one for that????
But what happens when you get there?
@@alanhowitzeryou just assume that they won’t honor it. You’ll always hear about the bad ones that won’t and less often about the ones that will. I keep seeing people talking about CA and FL, which are 2 of the worst states to buy a car in. If you’re looking, don’t just go to one place and give up. You have to go to multiple places. That should always be what you should do no matter what.
10k off a car that’s already 30-40k over priced.. still not worth it… keep holding
@@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod10k off is not enough bro. They needs significantly drop those prices.
I live by Bomnin Dodge. My advice is to call dealers for OTD price. Trust me when I say, website advertised prices means nothing for anything with a 392. I live by Bomnin Dodge, you need to be a doctor, astronaut, nuclear scientist, etc, etc to qualify for the advertised website prices.
As a follow up, just yesterday visited Bomnin Dodge to help my best friend buy a Destroyer Gray with red interior widebody 392. MSRP at $63,795 … OTD was $64,500.
If u listen to this guy and buy, you deserve everything that’s coming to you.😊
The prices of Ram are totally crazy! Actually, the price for trucks, are totally nuts!!!!!
Bought a 2020 charger Rt and walked out the door 30k ….. now it’s 45k that’s steep! Big price difference!
Here’s my experience this week at local dealer…scat with decent options $8k discount. I did my research on my trade-in value and have equity in my trade. The dealer wanted to offer me $8k less on my trade value to make up for the discount on the scat. Obviously they thought I couldn’t do simple math and hadn’t done my research. I walked. Doing a search right now in a 100 mile radius of me there are 186 scats on new car lots similarly optioned. So, waiting seems to make sense for me.
Yea they never stop playing games
Dealers are not taking loses. Are manufacturers selling cars at cost price or less. NO. Then they are still making money profits. Telling people they save off huge mark ups is the oldest sales trick in the book. Cars and Trucks are overpriced and not selling.
Too expensive .
These dealerships are not credible. The problem is no one believes the discount. BS like 10k off then show up and it’s all BS. No one believes them and they will feel the pain.
But what you shouldn’t do is lump all dealerships into one. Just because one place is doing it, doesn’t mean they all are.
X, what is your opinion on lot rot? Do you think hellcat engines will be damaged from sitting too long? Im seeing several that have sat for close to a year. Not to mention being exposed to the elements and not being washed regularly
That’s actually something no one is talking about.. might be something worth investigating
@@RacerX9I’ve been curious about that too. I see tons of videos talking about lot rot, but it’s always on used cars and mostly on body damaged caused by it. Never about the engines.
Mice damage
Moisture in Gas Tank, Contaminated Gas.
Dodge really flooding the tv air waves now with last call commercials. Uh it’s too late! the damage is done ! The consumers are getting smarter !
this is only one dealership though, and its in the states! up here in Canada we are still getting screwed up the butt!
That’s sad to hear 🤦🏼♂️
Thanks RacerX for the 11 minute commercial for your local Dodge dealership, you definitely fit the description of a Dodge FanBoy, did you water your front yard grass yet?
Im not gonna lie, less than $30k for a NEW charger or challenger r/t is a good if not great deal... but the brand has been gouging us too much for too long. Let them reap what they sew. I would love to have a ram 1500 ecodiesel, but i can't afford even a used one (and dont actually need it). I have a paid for '04 durango for my towpig needs. Anyways, i hope all brands gouging their customers feel this pain, its too late to right this wrong, just my $0.02. :)
I bought one of the first 2009 Challenger RT and some of the prices you showed were what I paid for mine in 2008!!
The problem will be even if you can get a decent price the high interest rates will get you!
Courtesy Dodge in Tampa , Great experience with the whole team there. Thank you Miguel Hernandez for your help in meeting all my needs and hanging in there! (Highly Recommended). Another special Thank you to RACER-X for the heads about this dealership. traded my 2020 octane red R/T for a 2023 Octane Red R/T .... Yeah I love the color ... Good luck to all !
I just picked up a Durango RT that had an original sticker of 64K for 48K. That is 16K off sticker. They have some Durango Hellcats that are 8K off sticker, and I saw some in the low 90K range. But still to much of a theft magnet plus the RT deal was just to sweet 😊
That is a great deal! We paid $62 K for ours last year.
The RT is cool, but it has base entry V8 engine. Definitively worth not to go with the basics, but invest a bit more and get Hellcat Durango.
Advertised prices do not mean squat. Most of these dealers have all kinds of fine print, hidden fees, adders, etc. Once you ask, they are not close to what they show on their sites.
Tim Kuniskis turned Last Call into a Cluster F*ck!!
The mark ups are killing people cause everyone who wants those car's can't buy them at all
Of course they are, but customers would have to buy a Stellantis product. Buying a new vehicle before your home and land are paid off only makes sense if you are seriously wealthy.
Otherwise it bleeds your wallet of money which could go into retirement investments and MAKE money. Profit is better than shiny objects.
I can't picture any dealership losing money even when they drop prices by 10k to 20K depending on the car.. Any car that is in demand is up by 30K at least these days..
There is a catch with those large discounts which they do not make abundantly clear until you ask about one of them. About 1/3 of the markup only applies to Military and First Responders so that 17k off quickly devolves into 10 or 11k off. Kind of shady the way they advertise these discounts if you ask me.
Yes it’s really shady how some do it
THEY ARE STILL NOT LOSING $$$ SINCE THEY.MARKED UP THE PRICE ANYWAYS. GLAD TO HEAR THAT BROTHER 👏👏💯👍
No here in Michigan. I just did a search out 500 miles from my zip, and the Charger Scat Packs (narrow and wide body) are listing MSRPs between $60,000 and $65,000
Yes the MSRP has not changed.. what are they listing the cars for? If they are saying MSRP they are on crack
@@RacerX9 Internet prices range 49-52. These are also the bare bones models (cloth seats, no HID lighting... ect)
@@RacerX9 They aren't dealing, just baiting people to come on down, and then hope you'll still buy since you are there at the moment. Get back to me when prices go back to 2019 levels including the same inflation rate level we saw back in that timeframe to arrive at a SANE and reasonable MSRP for 2024.
Place up here by me has 2 Demon 170s on the lot and they still have a 75k markup. Absolutely ridiculous.
Unfortunately, the problem that people lost ability to buy, the times are tough. These collectors vehicles, one could buy both cars overpaying $75K for each, store them properly for 2 years and resell each for $200K profit.
I'm sad that the Challenger is going bye-bye. :/ Would love a Scat Pack! Just can't afford it! Great video, Racer X! Thanks for giving us the heads up!
Thanks buddy
Get u some tickets, you never know, prolly luck comes to u and you get a demon instead! 😉
I'm at a point of my life where I can afford one and did purchase a 2018 Scat Pack with only 9K miles and a 6 speed manual. I freaking love it!
@@oldsrusoutlaws 6 speed manual best choice! I got my scat automatic bc my wife doesn’t know manual and she drives it sometimes 🤣🤦🏻♂️
But I’m saving to get a hellcat manual, I’m looking forward to get one! 😮💨
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to drive a stick. :( @@hachyboy45769
People that bought a 2023 charger or challenger at the beginning of the year are the ones really getting hosed because these discounts of $10,000 or $12,000 are going to take a hit in the value of their car. I think Dodge tried to push too many of these cars out thinking people were going to buy these cars because it was the last year. I was looking at a challenger back in May 2023 dealer wanted $50,000 over sticker price for a challenger scat pack which ended up being $108,000.00, needless to say they didn’t get it. I walked out of the dealership thinking they’re crazy.
your just broke brotha
Absolutely, here in central Fl. many a choice sitting at the dealerships...
Not in Jax
@@gnd111always best to go to the smaller market dealers. Hell, you’re actually better off going to GA to buy than buying in FL. Unless you like paying those high Dock fees.
After a frustrating month grappling with dealer-imposed fees, including unnecessary charges like paint protection, I stumbled upon the Tesla website. The seamless experience of test-driving and purchasing a car through a simple app led me to swap my Scat Pack for a Tesla. Buying a brand-new car from the comfort of my home at 3 am was a game-changer. I fervently wish other companies would adopt this business model and put an end to the deceptive practices of traditional dealerships. While my dream of owning a classic muscle car remains intact, I’m eager to witness a revolution in the automotive industry.
We put all of our chargers and challengers into ctp until they hit 500 miles because then we can drop the prices another 4k on all of them and 6k on hellcats
Wow that’s interesting
What's ctp?
@@alanhowitzerI don’t remember what it stands for, but that’s like their loaner cars I believe.
Prices look good until you find out the final cost
I'm hearing so many people complaining by the last 2 years of these cars quality control is not good you have to go back and get you a 2018-2019-20 model in order to get a decent one
Hold the line...still. End of the year is where it's at, if that. 🙄
Exactly
I don’t think you’ll have to wait that long. I would wait till the end of next quarter.
@Coonazz791 fair enough 👌🏿. Time to enjoy the show 📉. 😆
The banks will be wanting their money . But there has to be a time frame that theses dealerships have keeping them on their lot’s before the banks start putting pressure on them and I don’t think it’s started just yet . Wait until mid year
In 16, I was blessed to be able to buy a new scatpack for 40k out the door, last year they wanted 65-70k for the exact same car 7 years later? Yea CLEARY price gouging. ITS THE EXACT SAME CAR!!!!! Im all done with dodge. Btw know anyone who wants a 56k mile scat for 30k????
I do, I have the rt 5.7 hemi, buy want a scat pack BUT just looked into some around my area and helll noooo not for there price.
@timscott5143 she's my 1st love so I may be a lil bias on the value🤔😂
@@chadnixon4236 lol trust me ik the feeling
o1 is going to pay 30k for an almost 10 year old car!! plus i have a guy by me that has a spotless 2016 srt 392 with 20k miles for 30k and i bet i cld talk him down to 25k for it. CHEE/CHEE!
@MEQUPWER damn wish I could find those deals around my area, I live in Nc in a small town bout 45 min away from Greensboro, NC and I been looking but I can't find nothing around here, even if it's used or someone is selling it personally they asking a arm and a leg smh
went looking at a wrangler Saturday here's the dealerships new game they lowered the msrp 6k but added an extra $1,367.00 for a sticker that says jeep performance, paint protection, and window tint, when I asked if they are going to take that 1,367 off the price because I dont want that extra stuff they said no so I left.
I’ll hold out a little longer make em as cheap as possible
Buy when, not if, you can afford it, not because the prices are coming down. Buy with a need, not a want. Anything with wheels and motors go DOWN in value. Once you drive a new car off the lot, you've lost 10-15% of its value. Food for thought.
Well most of that is common sense. But that is lacking nowadays.
More like 20 to 25 percent, depending on the vehicle.
My dream daily car is the Dodge Challenger and I absolutely would love a hellcat but all the thefts and shootings worry me. Can I buy a V6 SXT or GT and be a little less worried?
Of course you can buy a sxt or a GT and have it stolen way less. They really like hellcats that’s because they are awesome and cost more. They can part them out and make money while running from the police and getting away easily. But this is true with any nice car you buy don’t let thugs ruin your dreams just protect your self and your property.
@@joshreynolds729 thanks for answering me, do you think I might be able to get away with giving it a hellcat bumper and or Widebody? It’s just that I love the aggressive look from the hellcats and I want to have that on my daily to enjoy. I won’t Upbage it and give it SRT badges or anything ofc.
@@midnightracerplayz yeah no problem. Yeah you can add hellcat facias on it and a wide body if you like the car frame and everything is the same. They also sell body kits for it. And even aftermarket parts and blower if you want to go faster if the v6 isn’t enough after purchase. I believe boosted lucky here on TH-cam started out with an sxt might help you out on your journey. Wish you the best hope you get what you’re looking for. 👍🏻. The issue here with this is that thief’s will think it’s a hellcat even rebadged debadged or no badge defeating the purpose. Hellcats don’t really make great daily drivers. But you can buy a scat 18 and up used for cheaper than a cat and they pack a punch plus come with many of the items your looking for. And if you want to make good power you can always build it because the blocks are the same bge block in the hellcat just different everything else.
Besides the size of the block being slightly bigger 6.4l and maybe slightly better cooling jackets but other than that very stout block. Mmx sells build kits for that rods pistons crank everything, and plenty of tuners. But if cash is the deal sxt then build the exterior how you like. Ain’t no wrong way to go brother. Used hellcats can be got that are older like mine now 15-16 years for 40-60k.
@@joshreynolds729 yeah, I’ve driven a scat pack and oh my god I loved it! But it’s too expensive for me, and the SXTs and GTs are 20-22k rn in used near me. Or 27-30k if I want to buy brand new.
I've noticed more older cars on the road now.even me i drive a 1996 Dakota. And I rebuilt the engine for 3thousand..and I re did the suspension..so now I got a new truck well old body but new heart..that way better then a car payment..this truck should last me my whole life just like it did for my dad..
no surprise, they are not bad cars just the prices are to high.
Stealership tryna take advantage bc those cars goin’ out of production 🤷🏻♂️
I love my WB Hellcat and my scat pack! I’d never trade them for that EV crap is coming, there’s no way it would beat that lovely cold star in mornings! 😮💨
Just got a 61k MSRP Scat for 47k. Brand new, sat on lot for year. 6 speed too!
1 DUDE JUST BOUGHT A 170 FOR 89k. That's a deal!!!
Wow
That is hard to believe if it is brand new and undamaged. Do you have a link to that story?