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What is the hardest 3D Super Mario level? Well, I polled the internet and this is what they chose. In today's video Darker Side from Super Mario Odyssey, Special 8 Crown from Super Mario 3D Land, Grandmaster Galaxy from Super Mario Galaxy 2, and Champion's Road from Super Mario 3D World battle it out for the top hardest level in the 3D Mario games. Which one do you think is most difficult?
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What level do you think is hardest objectively and why?
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Champion's Road I guess.
The Perfect Run is an absolute crime against humanity. The Galaxy was already plenty difficult, and then they make the traps and obstacles MORE unforgiving and expect us to get through without getting hit a single time?! What the heck were they thinking?! Took me ten years to get that blasted Star, and I only got it because I asked my older sister to use the Co-Star Luma! Stupid cheating Hammer Bros… I had no choice but to cheat back.
Do you know the real meaning of anxiety?
Rolling gizmo galaxy
i know no one will pick this because there aren't that much people that played the green stars in mario galaxy 1
I think being annoying is a good characteristic of "being hard" in stages as it drastically reduces your sanity and quality of playing!
And well, this stage has all the DESERVED hate it GETS
The perfect run also removes checkpoints from the level which is something no one really talks about but it makes it even more hellish
So true.
The normal version of this level has 3 health, which don't really mean a lot, because getting hit still results in death in a lot of cases (getting hit during Yoshi section and Cloud section guarantees death, getting hit at the flip flaps and shrinking platforms section or the hammer bros section still has a high chance of death)
It's the checkpoints at section 3 and 5 (of 6 total sections) that make all the difference to me.
@@alexandererhard2516 Plus the cloud flowers extra mobility means getting hit at all makes it 3 times worse so i honestly think the removal of checkpoints is harder than the single health points
Don’t forget it also make the sections harder on top of this. It’s honestly a cruel level
@@localnekonia6830 surprised to see a nia in thw wild
Because champion's road doesn't even have checkpoints to remove.
When I beat The Perfect Run, I wanted to wait for my sister before grabbing the last star so that she could see me complete the game. I fell off of the edge of the island while I was waiting. I haven't played the game since.
Why didn't you pause? Also, nunchuck drift?
I'm so sorry for your loss
@@hiwi481 I thought my sister was going to be right back (she wasn't), so I started teasing my little brother by doing backflips on the platform, iirc. I got on the little house and I think I slid off the roof into the void. I would honestly feel more dignified saying it was nunchuck drift XD
@@keetlecorn thanks, it means a lot :')
BRUH
Even after beating Darker Side without any heals or skips, and Champion's Road without power-ups as Toad, I still say without a doubt that The Perfect Run is the hardest.
Its like, the dificulty scales from casual to EPIC GAMER DIFICULTY
Mario Odyssey is way too easy
I think the stage itself isn't the hardest, but doing it without getting hit probably is
It’s bell fo sure. Just not in a completion state, beating a level once it’s way less asking (even if it’s the hardest level that the game franchise may have ever had) than beating the same level 5 seperate times.
Why does everybody think toad is the worst character?
Grandmaster galaxy also doubles as being one of the most fair, fun, and rewarding challenges in ANY game with how you must unlock it and how it plays out. Truly a terrific sendoff to one of the best games of all time (both galaxy games are beautiful btw)
Also kind of a terrifying send-off as well.
Much better than Chamion's Road, for sure.
Grandmaster Galaxy is the hardest for me, The Perfect Run is near impossible. Super Mario odyssey's darker side is pretty tough too.
should i feel good it only took me about 7 tries? (About because the power went out during one.)
Perfect Run is overrated. It's really not that hard honestly. Champion's Road is way harder than the Perfect Run.
I got further in Champion's Road then the Perfect Run though. Maybe I'm just better with 3D world's controls then Mario Galaxy's. Still haven't beat any except for darker side so they're all brutal.
Mario Galaxy 2 was so damn long I was just done by the end Grandmaster Galaxy and then they threwPerfect Run at me.
Probably could beat it now, but it's different when you aren't expecting it.
Champions Road is like a 9/10
Well, it all comes down to you being forced to 1 HP in The Perfect Run. If you choose to use a tanookie or 6 HP in the other games, theres no problems with that. But you just dont have this option in SMG2.
EXACTLY OMG SOMEONE GETS IT.
But if every level had one hit, then it would be Champions Road
@@dominicbonogofski The Perfect Run is only the hardest because it’s one hit, not because of the gameplay of the level
@@torinoconnor4296 I can breeze through Champions Road without getting touched, easy. The 1 hitpoint thing makes it hard. But what also makes it hard is the ending of the level. 5 hammer bros and 3 boomerang bros, the boomerang bros being the ones you need to defeat, and the hammer bros having almost perfect aim and a large range on their throw, alone that makes it really tough. Then you got fast electric fences another section, ring beamers that have spikes and emit electric waves in a circle that you have to jump over or you die, while the ground below you starts to disappear when you touch it, or swaps to another location when you spin, while also avoiding octopuses that shoot fireballs and coconuts, but mainly fireballs, and having weird floaty jumps that you don't normally have in another section, a maze of electric fences that you must create your own platforms in or you die, but you only get 3 platforms every so often and the platforms you make go away very quickly in another section, asection where you have to use yoshi to get across a giant gap while avoiding homing bullet bills, choppas, and the giant gaping void below you, then in another section you have to avoid sentry beams that shoot a lazer at you that you have to constantly avoid or else it catches you and kills you, while having to run over switch panels to activate them all so you can progress, and it's just a lot to handle. It hurts to think about. 3D World is jump across small gaps, wait on a platform, avoid easy-to-dodge fireballs from fire bros, run over small gaps, avoiding charging chucks, kill 3 magikoopas while the ground falls below you, but that ground spawns back, then time your jumps to some fast beat blocks, then avoid the slowest swinging spikes in existence and a couple of fuzzies on some moving platforms, then walljump up a wall with some spiked ants blocking the way, using the back of the ants to bounce on to get up quicker, then jump on some piranha creepers to gain enough height to get up onto the next platform, while having no risk of falling off and dying by the way, then swim through some water, avoiding some spikes that sometimes move, then running on some dash panels that make you constantly sprint while jumping to avoid plasma waves from ring burners and collecting 5 key coins to open a warp box to the end of the level. Does that sound hard? It really isn't that bad. Even if you weren't able to take damage, it still wouldn't stand a chance against The Perfect Run, because I typically don't take damage during the level in Champions Road. Sure, I can see playing as small Toad being almost impossible once you get to the beat block section, but his small jumps are actually nice for getting up the large staircase of blocks, along with his agility. Plus, The Perfect Run HAS power-ups, they just don't increase your health. They give you an ability that makes the level easier (besides the cloud flower, which actually makes timing your jumps when avoiding the ring beamers harder because your jumps are floaty). Power-ups in 3D World give you special abilities AND an extra hit.
@@dominicbonogofski Nice essay
lillypad level is probably the one that traumatised me most especially with what you gotta do if you game over, thank goodness i learned the glitch to make that easier
Corona Mountain is just awful.
@@NicoTheCinderace yeah. The place the thing started. The “sickness”.
....what glitch?
@@theatreboy there's like a glitch you can clip under the ocean and just walk there with yoshi instead of dealing wall all the bs
@@shanedestroyer that, and the glitch inside the level where you make it to the end, and jump into the river from the cage in the back. The water loses its hit detection and you can freely jump into any of the red coins you missed.
Having only 1 health in Grandmaster Galaxy definitely overshadows all the normal gauntlet levels. At least with them you get full health to work with.
Darker Side isn't even the most difficult thing in Odyssey IMO. I remember it taking literally hundreds of tries for me to get the Breakdown Road second moon on Dark Side.
Yup, F that second moon!
Huh? Why the hell did it take so many attempts? It took me two
I can't relate to that, I don't think Breakdown Road is difficult - the 2D sub area in Mushroom Kingdom though? Oof.
@@adamj93 Yep, that's the one I was thinking of. Of course, does it actually count as 3D? lol
Yeah there are some insane parts in odyssey, but none of them are in darker side
I’ve had SMG2 since it came out, and Perfect Run is still the ONE star I need to 100% the game. It’s forever in my brain that it’s the only star I’ve never collected in SMG2…
I've done it once and never want to do it again!!
Go get that star. 😛
You can do it!
Did it in only 7 hours😎😎😎
+Skipped dinner
+Cried for about 30 minutes
+L
@@maximpouliot8634 Dude, I know you can do it. Try your best!
7:41 You can't really divorce the level design from the player character's attributes (i.e. health) when assessing difficulty. There are plenty of "difficult" levels in games that would become trivially easy if you had gobs of health. Likewise, many "easy" levels would become quite difficult if you were to die in one hit. The ultimate test star and the perfect run star should be judged independently, even though they share the same level design. It seemed like people assumed you meant the perfect run, but you really should have made that clear.
And even then the ultimate test star is very difficult, less than champion road but also more than 3D land and specially darker side of the moon.
Also, don't even pretend that champion road depending is much more difficult depending on the character you selected, and you can take breaks between characters as well.
100 percent agree with this
For me,it's perfect run from Galaxy 2
my favorite level in all of 3d mario
Super mario galaxy 2 is so difficult
I cant even passed the first level
Same
@@habebababebebaba5201 who asked 😒
@@habebababebebaba5201 Shut up
Grandmaster galaxy: the perfect run, champion's road, and the green star gauntlet level next to champion's road are the only 3d Mario levels I have never been able to beat. (I didn't try the green star one nearly as much as the other two, but I don't think I ever got more than halfway through)
You should probably start trying againl at least the green star one so you can say with confidence it’s hard.
Wow! You only beat the perfect run and champion's road. If you ever get around to it, I can assure you that the rest of smg2 and sm3dw are easier than their final levels.
@@vidego "I have never been able to beat." thats what he said, that those were the only ones he NEVER BEAT, not only ones he beat
@@vidego Get a pair of glasses kid
Out of everything mentioned, I have never beaten Champion's Road. Though I used to find the Perfect Run brutal, these days I am experienced enough at Mario Galaxy to beat it in a few tries
Personally, I agree with the hardest Mario level being the perfect run from grandmaster galaxy. Another brutally hard level is the boss blitz galaxy speedster comet. For this star you have two defeat 4 bosses in under 5 minutes. The bosses aren't necessarily that hard, its just that fact that you literally have to execute your attacks perfectly every single time in order to have enough time to defeat all the bosses.
Yeah I mean I don’t find boulderbrowl (or what his name was) that hard but it’s just how much time it consumes to defeat I literally had 10 seconds to do fire baby piranha because of him
@@tvs26 and baby piranha isn't that hard, but due to the time, you rush so much to defeat him that it's really easy to get burn
Yeah the Bouldergeist or however he's called is probably the most luck dependant boss of the 5.
Sometimes he spawns 2 bombs, enough to take out each of the phases where he doesn't move in one go, if I remember correctly.
Get very lucky, and you easily can get him in maybe a minute.
Get absolutely screwed and slam the bombs into his fists instead of body? 2-3 minutes wasted.
@@alexandererhard2516 exactly, if you miss even a single shot on him with a bomb it’s basically over
i... don't actually remember losing throwback throwdown speedrun at all
the perfect run was traumatic though
I gotta be honest, after i realized how EASY champions road actually is, due to exploiting the wall jumps and waiting for a good cycle AND just realizing you dont have to do everything in one swipe of a section, champions road is only three rooms long. It remembered it being hard, but that was probably because i considered it one of the “final mario” levels and those were always difficult. But yeah! Champions road is way easier now
if you think champion's road is easy retrospectively, wait until you see how easy the perfect run is
Especially if use a Tanooki suit.
Still doesn’t mean it’s easy, because I could say grandmaster galaxy is easy because each room is predictable because it always moves in a pattern that can be easy to trace after being stuck in the level. Besides exploits are kind of cheating in sense, your doing something unintended to the developers, it’s like saying grandmaster galaxy’s perfect run is easy because of this one exploit that allows you to spin forever (that ain’t a real thing but you get the gist).
@@steepslopesmm2 I gotta be honest, I found the perfect run really easy, I completed it 2nd try
Edit: I didn't use/know any exploit whatshowever, I was 13 years old when I did it.
I think it's easier to 'cheese' Champions Road if you have items (especially the Tanooki suit) but if you just play it normal it's extremely tough. Even when I used peach I couldn't beat it unless I saved up a Tanooki leaf for the boost panel section. I have no idea how I would beat it if I had used any other character with no items.
Champions Road will always be the nastiest stage they have created. I've beaten the Perfect Run multiple times over but I've only beaten champions road twice. (In single player not dragging alone dumb CPUs to stick on the flagpole)
To be honest ive tried both many times, ive managed to do both, but i did 10 times for champion's road because the strat is to use a tanooki leaf, like in 3d land, but the grandmaster galaxy, for both stars ive had to make it to try really hard before i managed only once. It took me above an hundred lives before getting both
I managed to beat Champion's Road with all 5 characters
You still got to do it at least 5 times if you want to complete the game, which your probably already doing considering your actually playing champions road.
Hell yes I aggree!
While The Perfect Run only allows you to take one hit, its more about punishment then anything else, while Champion's Road is longer and has far crazier gimmicks. The Perfect Run is somewhat predictable, while the end of Champion's Road is more hell then The Perfect Run's finale.
At least you beat Champion's Road. Still haven't beaten it to this day. Furthest I made was the moving water and spikes
Man, perfect run literally took me days of practice before I was able to beat it, probably the most I’ve ever grinded a level in any game
A lot of Sunshine's difficulty comes from poor design, so it's hard to hold it up to some of the other games here that are carefully designed to challenge skilled players.
I feel like Darker Side was extremely easy. I did it in very few tries and I find it more interesting because of the concept of reusing almost every captures of the game than because of its difficulty.
In fact, Super Mario Odyssey has some way harder challenges with some moons that I didn't even got close to get, like Beach Volleyball: Hero of the Beach or Breakdown Road: Final Challenge.
I still haven’t beat darker side, but that’s probably because I ga e up on Mario oddesey, I’d probably be able to beat dark side if I became familiar with the controls again.
Yeah I found it pretty easy. Worst part was the lava bubble part and even then it’s pretty easy
Don't even get me started on Jump Rope...
You're the second person I've seen saying Breakdown Road. I don't understand that, there are several more difficult moons in SMO and Darker Side is DEFINITELY more difficult.
I definitely say Grandmaster. First off, S8-Crown is straight up easy, I can beat it on my first try. I haven’t played Champion’s Road sadly. And while I think Darker Side and Grandmaster Galaxy are both tough, Darker loses because I’ve beaten it. I haven’t even beaten The Ultimate Test yet, so a harder version seems like hell.
How could you not beat the ultimate test? It’s not even that bad, I mean it’s a nightmare on Mario standards, but I’ve seen worse.
@@gameguin6113 because it frustrates me
woah you must be a god at mario to beat world s8-crown first try. I still struggle with it and can only beat it with a tanooki.
Llewgee!!! Fair point.
Firey55 I’m hoping you did that with peach or Rosalina first time, because it’s way easier that way, everyone else just kinda sucks for that stage.
It’s still perfect run for me because of the damn hammer bro’s section.
Awesome video, I love how you took literally everything into account when comparing the levels. Extremely well done
The perfect run is 100% the hardest out of the four, especially since I was never able to beat it lmao. But I'd say there's a lot of sunshine levels that can beat people's ass's lol
The perfect run isn’t a level it’s the same level with a clear condition because imagine how much easier Mario kaizos would be if you had 3 hits
The hardest level is ground pounding on the glowing spot to get a moon,
just break the shoulder buttons and it would literally be impossible!
You can forget about adding rumble
The Pro Controller lacks the HD Rumble. It feels like they’re trying to force you to play with Joy-Con Drift…
you can remap the A button to ZR if i'm not mistaken
at least on joycon
@@GatorOne-in7hk I assume you don't have a Nintendo made pro controller then, the one I have has amazingly detailed rumble
@@GatorOne-in7hk either yours is broken or its not official. My real pro rumbles my fake one does not.
It's been a long time since I've played it but if my memory serves me correctly some of the later bonus levels in Super Mario Sunshine were rough AF.
The ones where you dont get flood suck lol the sand bird one sucks lol
Honestly, I find that the difficulty in these levels comes from how slippery the controls were in Sunshine. Mario had no sense of momentum or friction, immediately taking off the moment you push on the analogue stick and changing directions so quickly you hardly get a chance to grt a grip on his movement. Honestly, Sunshine is an example of a game which has controls I'd consider too tight and responsive.
@@SoIstice That is why speed runners love that game while regular players consider it the least good 3D Mario game. It's good that F.L.U.D.D is responsive but there's a reason dead zones exists on 3D Mario games bar Sunshine.
The perfect run absolutely kicked my ass. It was so hard that once I DID complete it, I actually forgot I beat it because the memories of dying constantly was ingrained into my mind and overrode the memory of winning once. Some time later, I went back to it because I thought I didn't finish it yet. I was very relieved to see I had beaten it and didn't have to try again.
incredibly well done discussion here. Every time I thought about something, you addressed it. The fact that fewer people played the handheld ones, the fact that Sunshine's difficulty is a different KIND of difficulty...
Sunshine’s difficulty comes from the game itself, by that I mean the bugs, seriously you can make a banana invisible just by playing with it in water (check out particular mushrooms video on that, I think it was Serena beach, the one with the hotel).
@@gameguin6113 not entirely. the game mainly just can feel like it was never playtested, whilst glitches usually only help
@@gameguin6113 its not really the glitches really its just that the game design is incredibly unfair in a lot of places and then sometimes janky stuff can happen like when mario just gets stuck in a dive animation
The Perfect Run got culled out of my memory honestly. What a damn difficult stage. I bet I could beat it a lot quicker now.
It took me a while to beat the perfect run but I’ve still only beaten champions road once, to my memory, across both the Wii U and Switch versions. Still, Sunshine might hold the most difficult but those seem like a flaw of how they were built rather than made to be excruciatingly difficult from the very beginning
Yeah plus sunshine is just a buggy game, it’s the games fault and also the level designs fault because it is how it is in such a buggy game.
I have the opposite experience.
I've played through all five of these... The one at the end of Super Mario 3D World took me more attempts to complete than all of the others on the list combined. I was very surprised not to see it win.
Purple coins on the tree trunk slide from Mario Galaxy 2... literally hell.
Stop it, dont remember me that hell, only thinking of it makes me feel something called pain, and lets not forget the baller purple coin level WITH A TIMER
The Perfect Run/GrandMaster Galaxy is the hardest and here’s why:
-Must best EVERY LEVEL/WORLD in the game
-And After you beat every LEVEL/WORLD u have to collect green stars 😡
-Once You Do that you have to beat EVERY level in “WORLD S” which has the HARDEST levels in the game and collect green starts for it.
-Collect EVERY Comet Medal
-Collect 9999 Starbits 😳
-You have to beat GrandMaster Galaxy in order unlock The Perfect Run which is already hard enough
-Once you beat GrandMaster u FINALLY unlock the Perfect Run which is Grand Master Galaxy but on steroids.
-You can’t take ANY damage or you’ll die and have to start ALL OVER
-And unlike all these other level u get NO POWER-UPS, u only get cloud flower which is used as a level mechanic instead of helping u,
-In Odyssey u get 6-Life Power-Ups, In 3D WORLD/Land U get Power-ups like Tanooki, Boomerang, Star Power, Fireflower, and more, Which will actually help you.
If ANYONE want to change my mind, GO RIGHT AHEAD!!
I agree with everything you said
@@somenameidk5278
In 3D world power-ups are accessible for ANYONE meanwhile how likely do you think ppl are gonna have a 2nd player to help them in SMG2 compared to getting a power-up in 3DW? And also in 3D world you have access to different characters who all have their own benefits, Luigi (High Jump), Peach (Floating/Levitation), Mario (Most Balanced), Toad (Fastest), and Rosalina (Spin attack and Second Jump).
@@somenameidk5278 ok genius, how am I gonna play the hardest level in the game and use the co-op luma at the same time without have a second player to help me which isn’t accessible to everyone.
@@somenameidk5278 not really, in the beginning of the level you have to use yoshi to go through enemies in the air, and in the second section you got enemies shooting lasers at you and are invincible, and at the cloud flower part it’s a obstacle that you have to go thru so the luma will be no help. The only part where the luma would be helpful at is the hammer bro section and that literally the LAST part of the LEVEL! and the the second to last section of grand master if you stand still the octo enemies will kill you, you boring me, idky I have to keep proving u wrong
I feel like a small percentage of people have actually played all of these levels in each game like me, I never played played Mario world or 3D land and I say grand master galaxy in smg2 is the hardest that I ever played.
All of these levels are challenging, no doubt, but I do own, and have played all of these levels personally, smg2s level is the hardest. I absolutely agree with you.
There is definitely something special about beating every level. I did all 242 on SMG2, beat all 241? Can't remember on SMG1 (120 for Mario and 120 for Luigi) and finished Champion's Road but never owned Oddessey. Grandmaster definitely was the most fun. It took me daaaays to finish it and hundreds of lives but I did it eventually.
Another factor making The Perfect Run more difficult is that, since you're unable to take damage, you're stuck with the Cloud Flower for the whole level from the moment you pick it up. Its jumps are a lot floatier and the mid-air spin doesn't give you as much height as usual, meaning jumps are committed to further in advance and with less opportunity for correction (once the cloud platforms run out). This combined with the fact that each individual powerup doesn't show up all that often, resulting in the player being far less practiced with the powerup than without it, makes the flip panel and Hammer & Boomerang Bro sections even tougher than they seem on paper.
I cant decide between 3d world and galaxy 2 as the hardest. I think galaxy is slightly ahead though, but if you exclude the perfect run prankster comet then 3d world easily wins
Same thoughts. The end fight of all of the hammer bros with 1hp is what got me the most i think.
I am genuinely disappointed in everyone who chose Darker Side, the amount of bonus healing you can get is huge compared to the other 3
Something I failed to mention is that there are single hearts hidden throughout the level too. One that immediately comes to mind is the one behind the tower you climb with Uproot in the lava area. Grandmaster Galaxy's normal run does allow you to fully heal pretty easily in the cloud section though, so I suppose other levels do grant full healing as well.
You should be disappointed in yourself for being so arrogant.
@@sammer1097 I think it still shows how many people voted who shouldn't have. You shouldn't vote on a comparative question unless you actually have some experience with at least most of the options. It seems like it doesn't mean much, but this exact voting behavior is what leads to people blinding voting when it's actually important. Sometimes treating the obligatory things with some seriousness can be good practice for later.
@@ShyGuy. General people don't take easy modes in consideration when talking about how difficult a challenge is. They only talk about Normal Difficulty and/or the hardest Difficulties.
It does have it being the most recent 3d mario, and massive popularity on its side. For me personally, its the first 3d mario I've finished, and large key detail for this discussion: I haven't played any of the other 3 games. Two were on the 3ds, and platformers were not a genre I liked on that console, and I didn't like galaxy 1, so I didn't buy galaxy 2. So, by default, darker side is the most difficult one I've experienced, by merit of being the ONLY one I've experienced.
So really, it comes down to; a sequel, the newest game, and two that were banished to the dark realm of a handheld.
Dunno about hardest, but the ones that made me wanna burn the console the most was those levels in sunshine where you don't have fludd
Thats like not having cappy in odissey, or the spin in mario galaxy
@@davidron7850 well yeah but cappy is rarely taken away and master luma is never taken away in either of the games. Sunshine had fludd regularly taken away in order to test your platforming skills without him. Plus Mario’s fast pace in sunshine is less forgiving than odyssey and galaxy
@@avocadeous fluddless are always the worst ones, because of sunshine’s level buildings and how much it makes you depend on fludd prior to the level
The final level in Super Mario 3D Land is by far the hardest, without comparison. Especially without pre-equipped power ups.
I guess just nobody knows about it since you would have to play the game again as Luigi in order to unlock it.
I think another reason S8-C ranked so low was because of how soul crushingly difficult it was to get to it. Not only was getting to and finishing S8 super hard in itself, but to get the level you had to not only find all the star coins, but had to have finished every single stage as both Mario and Luigi AND get the top of every flagpole. A bit much, even for a secret final stage
I'd say 3D World was somewhat similar minus the “complete level with each character”
Needed all stars and perfect flagpoles to reach World Crown iirc.
I can definitely agree with the perfect run being the hardest. As someone who's played Mario games for as long as I remember this is 100% he'll to go through
The perfect run was the only moment in a Mario game where I legit thought "I might never be able to beat this". I did in the next try lmao.
I appreciate how much attention this gives to how polls are subject to many factors that can tamper with accuracy
I explicitly remember 10-12 y/o me spending an ENTIRE summer's worth of attempts on the perfect run, and literally breaking down on my bed when I finally beat it like, a few weeks before the school year started.
Maybe I just sucked as a kid and now that I'm a lot older I can beat it in an hour or so, but the gratification of conquering that one level after so much effort was the most emotional I've ever gotten over beating a single level
And that's why dying over and over again just to beat the game will always be one of my Pixel Portals.
For me it’s the Champions Road course. If you don’t have a power up for the final dash section it’s almost impossible
Final dash section I remember actually being pretty tame compared to the rest of the level.
@@mr.cereal599 the rest wasn't really that hard, the dash part was relatively hard but still not that bad.
After I found out that you can ground pound to buy yourself an extra second on the dash pads, I beat champions road without power ups as Mario like 5 times. It really helps a lot, if you haven't beaten the level yet I recommend doing this.
After 100%'ing every other Mario game, Champions Road from SM3DW is the only Mario stage I've never beaten to date.
I wish Nintendo would release a 3D mario with constant high difficulty like these levels have
If i could mod games i would make a mod to make every mario galaxy level hell in its own way
That’s why Mario lost levels exists
@@davidron7850 that sounds fun and I want to see it would you like to know how to mod galaxy?
RedRandomRage the o key hard Mario game Nintendo will ever produce, other than the ones where you learn because who tf wants to learn in their Mario game.
So just a 3d version of lost levels?
For me, Champion’s Road is the hardest of all of ‘em. I have played them all, so I think my opinion is relevant. I truly think it is harder than The Perfect Run.
I didint played 3d world, but now i have it and i will give it a try to the hardest level when i reach it, cause im still in world 1 lol, bit nice opinion, still think that the hardest one its the perfect run, because a miss= fuck you start all over
Same, a lot of people saying The Perfect Run is the hardest but for me it was WAY easier, a lot of less time used.
david ron yo that’s kind of like champions road, except more forgiving in some ways. Pro tip, if you want the hardest experience go small toad without using the infinite wall jump exploit, yeah it sucks.
@@deluxe1886 if you had only 1 hp in all of the challenges champions road would probably win.
@@The360MlgNoscoper that's what I'm saying, Champion's Road was the hardest for me
Neat analysis! I don't think I voted, but Grandmaster Galaxy is still at the top of my list, I think. The Perfect Run, especially. Thanks for uploading!
The Impossible Pack In NSMB2 Is infinitely harder then the perfect run. I beat the perfect run in 36 minutes, and I have been working on the impossible pack for months. 8 crown in 3d land took me like 20 minutes, darker side took 30, and I haven't played champions road. The impossible pack is no doubt the hardest Mario level.
But this videos about 3d mario levels
I consider myself a completionist and The Perfect Run is the only mission that I actually gave up on.
You can do it!
For me galaxy two perfect run but I also think it’s the best hard final level in a 3D Mario
I feel like the first star in Grandmaster is more like the "Practice Mode" of the Perfect Run. It's like the game is saying "Ok, here's the layout of the stage, learn it and THEN do it flawlessly."
Now that I've played all the levels mentioned, Champion's Road is the hardest for me by far. The Perfect Run is not easy by any means, but very learnable. The first 2 rooms should not be any problem after a few tries. The 3rd room was hard at first, but was very learnable. Eventually I just knew where to (long) jump/spin etc. The electrical wire room also wasn't very hard for me, as long as I didn't try to rush it. The hammer bros room was a bit tricky, but I managed to defeat the boomerang bros on my 2nd attempt (just wait until their boomerangs have returned and you'll have a window to spin them). Overall it maybe took an hour total.
Now Champion's Road on the other hand... The big problem is the length. I think all rooms are pretty hard, but especially the last section with the boost panels is brutal. It's also way less learnable than the harder rooms in Perfect Run, because there's so much happening at once, so much you have to dodge and since it's later on in a longer level, you have less opportunities to practice it. I don't remember how many hours I spent total, but it took me 3 days with several hours each day. So my vote easily goes to Champion's Road.
This was bloody hard to think of but I decided mario galaxy’s 2 final level
grandmaster galaxy actually changes more than lowering you down to one HP the entire time and removing checkpoints, for certain parts are changed to become even more difficult, like replacing the paragoombas at the start with whatever them green things are, and making the electric layout of the cloud flower section a bit more wild. either that, or my memory is faulty again.
The perfect run is a behemoth. Unmatched by any other. You can't bring power ups and even the ones the level gives you only serves the purpose of making a near impossible section appear for you to beat. Every kid who got to this point will know the suffering.
7:47 well if you have 4 controllers, you can have 3 characters spawn at the end of the flagpole and have em all go in, meaning you’d have to complete it twice minimum (since it’s 5 characters), but you’d be able to use your best character twice.
"It's hard to get a feel for depth when playing Super Mario 3D Land."
Game and console literally have stereoscopic 3D to display depth.
Rip 2ds users
Exactly my reaction when I heard him say that. It's actually EASIER to gauge depth in 3D Land than any other Mario game and was the basis behind the game's design in the first place.
Champion’s Road is harder than Perfect Run. Galaxy 2 gives you so much more freedom with movement.
The perfect run from galaxy 2 is the reason why the hammer bros are to me some of the coolest enemy characters in the Mario franchise…I like em so much that I don’t consider them as enemies…they’re more like soldiers just doing their jobs. You gotta kind of respect that kind of work ethic.
I see these final levels as the game's celebration of your triumph over it. If you've made it this far, endured everything the game has thrown at you, the game is confident you can handle anything it can possibly throw at you. So it throws everything at you at once, because it knows you can handle it.
I don’t really remember how hard Darker Side was, since you got all those healing opportunities. And the 3D Land level I never played, since I didn’t have the drive to 100% that one.
As for the other two: I’d say Champion’s Road is the most difficult by default. Grandmaster Galaxy actually wasn’t too hard in the normal run. But the Daredevil one was where the real challenge was.
But for Champion’s Road; it was brutal no matter what. Even with the optimal character/item combinations, it was still a major challenge.
I find Champion's Road fairly easy. I have practiced it a lot. Doing it with Toad, without power-ups, is the only actual challenge I find from it. His short jumps make it extremely difficult to make the jumps from the dash panels before the key-coin section.
From a completionist point a view, doing the level with each character isn't too difficult when you use power-ups.
No damage isn't even that hard either. There's only a couple sections when you actually have to focus on not taking damage. If you start small, your hitbox is lower, making some sections easier.
The Perfect Run of Grandmaster Galaxy is actually difficult.
The controls are more limited, and the sections are more difficult than Champion's Road.
Especially the last section. The level is longer, and it is a requirement to not take damage.
The Darker Side is also difficult. While it does reward you with extra health, it makes the level longer and harder. The section right before the Bowser part is extremely hard. No damage for that stage requires extreme skill, and precision.
The Special 8-Crown of 3D Land is difficult, but not as much as the others. Without the tanooki suit, it does become harder. Doing it no damage is fairly hard, since there are 2 bosses in the same room, and there are some difficult parts.
The lily pad stage from Sunshine is more annoying than difficult. If you miss a red coin (which is very easy to do so), you can try to re-grab it by standing on the edge, and using fludd to barely suspend you above the poisonous water. It is difficult to do this. The game makes it very difficult to get many lives, so if you game over, you have to redo the long, tedious ride to the island on Yoshi.
The pachinko machine stage was a bit tedious, but I did not find it difficult. Fludd helps you to get into each hole, and you have to be unlucky to die. Overall, not too hard. It is kind of tedious to get back to it if you game over. But on no scale comparable to the lily pad.
The chuckster level isn't too hard if you know how the gimmick works. The red coin challenge in the level is annoying, and definitely makes it harder from a completionist point of view.
Ranking these 7 in terms of difficulty.
7 - Pachinko Machine
6 - Chuckster level
5 - Lily Pad stage
4 - Special 8-Crown from 3D Land
3 - Champion's Road
2 - Darker Side
1 - Grandmaster Galaxy
i found grandmaster galaxy easier then champions road imo i’d switch those two
@@key81885 I aggree, as while The Perfect Run only allows you to take one hit, its more the punishment then anything else, and its shorter then Champion's Road too and slightly easier to predict. While Champion's Road has gimmicks far crazier then The Perfect Run and its slightly longer too, and the absolute most painful part is the dash panel part which is very hard to predict.
@@danmario246.
I can see your point, but it isn't too hard to learn the patterns of the lasers, which then can make it pretty easy to predict when you need to jump.
Apart from that, we just find different things harder. Everyone finds difficulty in a place where someone finds none.
@@MarioLandscape The bottom statement is so true. :)
As for the top one, it's a maybe from me.
I can't really remember most Mario levels I've played, if I ever replay the 3D-Series I'll make sure to rank them though. Sounds fun.
I didn't catch the vote but since I've played all of the final levels (exlcuding 3D-Land), here's my ranking:
1. Grandmaster Galaxy
2. Champions Road
3. Darker Side
Darker Side's the easiest, even without the free health packs. The first time around I did struggle, however it did teach me how to use the cappy-jump more efficiently and made me figure out a few other tricks that made subsequent playthroughs far easier. On top of that it's my favourite 3D-Mario and I really got into all the movement tech which made me a better player overall. I don't really mind it being the easiest. In my opinion odyssey shines when you are given the ability to make your own challenge, which Darker Side is pretty good for (e.g. beat it without using cappy, beat it with the fewest captures possible etc.).
Champions Road is decently challenging. It did take me some time to beat it, once I figured out the patterns though it was quite easy. The only section I remember struggling on a bunch was the finale one with the running pads and key-coins.
First place on my list is Grandmaster Galaxy. Despite everyone I know saying it's hard, I really don't think it is. I was considering putting it below Champions Road, because I remember beating the normal stage pretty easily when I was younger. However, since I've beaten both Champions Road without Power-Ups and the Perfect Run, I think I can say that Grandmaster is harder. Although if I were to rank the levels normally I do think that Champions Road is slightly harder.
Due to my years of experience with the games the levels all feel pretty easy to me. Wish I could play them all again for the first time though.
The Perfect Run level made me bite my Wii remote and all these years, I see the bite marks and I laugh. Yes I did beat it those years ago but I can’t believe I bit the remote haha
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I appreciate your focus on taking bias into account. It’s rare to see that. Thank you.
It took me 10 years to finally beat the perfect run, took me an hour at max to beat champions road
Also, the pachinko machine is one of the EASIEST shines in the sunshine. All you have to do is know what you're doing and how you are going to launch Mario. That mission has no place in the conversation with the rest of these missions.
As well, the chuckya mission is just annoying, but is also irrelevant to these conversations. Sure the red coin version takes a bit more patience, but neither one is terrible.
Fun fact : The sound that's plays when you collect a red coin in Super Mario Sunshine also plays as the sound when you collect a comet medal from Mario Galaxy 2
Awesome Video Swankybox
Super Mario 64's Wing Mario over the Rainbow. That level took me year.
Personally, I think if Darker Side of the Moon had a single hit difficulty, it'd hands down be the hardest stage. As it sits, it's already my pick, just for the total length of the level.
What makes The perfect Run so hard.
1) you only have one life without checkpoints. Most of the other levels give ya multiple lives and your allowed to bring power us in to make your life easier.
2) Champion Road only needs to be completed twice cause you can just get 4 people too play. (If ya say I gets too chaotic. Just put some of the players into bubbles.)
3) some parts of the levels can be skiped easy. (Mainly darker side)
I think champion's road is 10x harder than the perfect run I had to hire my brother to help me beat it and it still took a long time, whereas the perfect run took me about an hour. Also, I feel that the controls of Galaxy are much more free when compared to 3d world
The Perfect Run isn't really that hard. I can beat it first time almost everytime. I have been playing the Galaxy games ever since they released as a kid tbf but in my opinion Champions Road is the hardest because I never beaten it lol.
I played all of these stages back to back with the most basic forms of movement required to beat it (just meaning I used the captures in odyssey and the cloud flower and yoshi in galaxy 2) a few months ago just to try and get a generally unbiased test, and the order of difficulty was the exact same as it was here
In my experience, most of these challenges took me hours to beat. Beating Grandmaster Galaxy and the Perfect Run was more on the scale of days. It's the no-hit nature that influences it for me as you mentioned, so I have to wonder how long something like Darker Side would have taken me if I had to play it with 1 health.
Me and my sister love playing Super Mario 3D world and Super Mario World together, and we both agree that Champion's Road and Tubular are the two most difficult levels from both games. While I've only beaten Tubular once in my life, neither of us were able to take down Champion's Road and only got as far as the Dash Panels.
the lily pad level in mario sunshine, while it deff took forever to get to and the pipe takes you out of the level not to mention the instant death poison water, the trick to the level is quite literally the edges of the stage at the end as mario can walk right back up to the beginning of the stage from the ledge and try again as the lily pad will respawn when he gets there.
you just gotta walk back up and the lily pad will have been respawned giving another try. the lily pad stage actually becomes less frustrating with this in mind once one figures this out, but i don't think anyone would have thought about it or would bother.
the perfect run is like a walk in the park when compared to champion's road, at least for me
really? do you have a hard time controlling mario 3d world or something
I played all 4 of these and here is my personal list
4: Darker Side (Odyssey)
3: S8-Crown (3d Land)
2: The Perfect Run (Galaxy)
1: Champion's Road (3d World)
Reason for the last 2:
I couldn't beat either the perfect run or champions's road, but I got SIGNIFICANTLY closer to the end on the perfect run and struggled a lot more on champion's road
I never knew about that 1-UP, but I only completed it with big help by my brother. That makes it to me the hardest, because the SMO and the 3D World I did myself
The perfect run I think is the hardest because the other 3D world and 3D land you can use power ups and odyssey gives you hearts will the perfect run you have one life and it only gives you stuff when you NEED to use it
The hardest 3D Mario level is the one where he's dead and you can't control him at all, also known as present day.
nono mario is chris pratt now
7:20 don't forget that the game requires you to max out the bank before the comet spawns
It took me more than 8 years to beat The Perfect Run...
I took more or less one year to beat The Special-8 Crown...
And now that i have a Switch, i want to grab SM3DW and Odyssey...
God help me on my journey.
I used a glitch to beat darker side because I didn’t want to run through all that. It took me many tries to beat both champions road and perfect run. It’s been a while since I played 3D land, but I don’t think I had any trouble on Special 8-crown. As for Mario sunshine, I have yet to get to those parts.
gotta love the perfect run, just fantastic
oh my god this video reminded me of that time I asked my brother to help as player 2 just for that perfect run level. when we beat it I was so happy. now that he's japan I kinda miss him
Yeah it’s always hard when your siblings go off to become countries, my brother is Argentina now
For me, it's Stonecyclone Galaxy. Every obstacle kills you in one hit.
I did not know that the Perfect Run was the hardest from people's opinion. I'm surprised I was able to beat it.
It actually took me more than 8 years to beat The Perfect Run... Damn.
Special 8-crown is made pretty easy with the stone tanooki suit. You can just sit through the fire bar section and overall the platforming is made much easier
Didn't think SMO's darker side wasn't that hard honestly. I was STRUGGLING on Champion's road. Literally took me and my sister about a week to beat that level. I got so absurdly good at doing those sections it really challenged me. Never played SMG2's perfect run, definitely gotta try that soon.
i think this is an amazing idea and community project
One of my favorite achievements was collecting the Grandmaster Galaxy star with Yoshi. To do this you have to navigate the cloud flower maze using nothing but the infinite flutter glitch, then finishing the stage without losing Yoshi to any of the other challenges.
I haven’t played Sunshine, but I remember hearing years ago that Corona Mountain was absolute hell.