I think the version of Champions Road on the Wii U is actually much harder than the Switch version just because of your lack of ability to dive on the Wii U making it a lot more difficult to make quick recoveries
@@jadecronayeah like that one section he kept back tracking on. You're supposed to run over it, but on the wiiu it's much slower so you'll get hit if you try running the entire time
True. I also think that playing as peach is an unfair comparison. Floating is very broken and it would also make the other levels better. No power ups mario is the way to compare these imo, and then champions road is harder than grandmaster galaxy
8:15 oh no he doesn't know you can just hold the button to keep high bouncing on enemies in this game. No timing needed. The piranha creeper part is best done with Mario as it's designed for him to smoothly jump between them. Peach's float makes it weird since it entirely halts her upwards momentum. The other characters can do it more or less just fine. Also, I've died many times when I felt I shouldn't on the one block gap section too, you're supposed to just run across it, but the charging chucks make you jump, so at that point you can try to keep your speed and pray, or bounce on each chuck and hover (since you were using Peach, could also double jump with Rosalina), or take it carefully like you did, which is harder than it looks with the increased player speed.
Chamipons Road is definetly the one that gave me the hardest time of these three and i think the reason why is, as long as you arent playing peach or rosalina ,its the game that gives you the least movement options out of these three. I mean if you REALLY got the hang of odysee its kinda ridiculous what kinda stuff you can do.
Really? I got through it on my first attempt, although that may have been luck because I'm not good at video games and took 15 hours on Champion's Road.
Here's my ranking of these levels. For completeness, I have also included Special 8-Crown from 3D Land and The Ultimate Test (the base version of Grandmaster Galaxy). 1. The Perfect Run 2. Champion's Road 3. The Ultimate Test 4. Special 8-Crown 5. Darker Side
Just a few things about champoin's road: 7:50 you dont have to land precisely on each block. You just have to land on the first one and the others you can just run over them. The challenge here is running past all of the charging enemies because if you have to jump to avoid them, then you have to do a good landing as well. 8:06 keep in mind that this stage is beatable by every character. And this section can also be done in many ways. It it a timing challenge. And also, for the double blocks, you can walljump from the next blocks (the one that is too far to reach) and land on the next block when it switches back. 8:11 The same thing happened to me until I realized that it is NOT timing based thing. You just have to hold jump and you will always get the max height when bouncing.
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I think this is a really good video! Though, you did forget about the secret final hard level in 3D Land, which is similar to 3D Worlds in structure while being entirely different
One thing worth noting is that to 100% 3D World, you need to beat Champion's Road with every character. I can't recall from memory which character is the hardest, but it's most likely Toad because of his smaller jump height. So if we're comparing which level is the hardest to beat by any means necessary, then yes, Champions Road isn't too bad. But considering it's involvement in 100% which necessitates playing with characters that aren't Peach or Rosalina, I personally think Champion's Road is the hardest.
Toad definitely, and only because of the last section where you have to do those massive jumps on the boost panels. Almost impossible in the Wii U version with him, slightly possible in the Switch version. But as long as you're playing as Luigi, Peach, or Rosalina the level is a piece of cake.
@@AK_804. True enough, just you're way more likely to die with him. But Champion's Road as a whole isn't very difficult. I've created Mario Maker levels that give me more of a challenge lol.
When I was a kid me and my brother grinded to beat champion's road for like two months straight at one point. It was brutal, but we got there in the end.
There is no question in my mind that Champion's Road is the hardest. The Perfect Run really only has two difficult sections, that being the fourth and final, whereas Champion's Road is difficult all the way through (And Darker Side was never even really a contender; it's more a test of resiliance than a test of skill, and forget skipping the Fork section, with Glydon you can also skip the Pokio and 2D sections by gliding straight to the Bowser portrait). However, I feel like Special 8-Crown from 3D Land bares mentioning. It may not have been the first final gauntlet in 3D Mario, but I like to think this level truly laid the groundwork for what these levels are truly capable of. The platforming is tight, the style of platforming keeps switching on you preventing you from getting too comfortable, the obstacles are tight, and they even threw a boss fight in the middle of it. I still think Champion's Road has a higher barrier of completion, but I also think this level at least deserves to be in the competition.
It’s only difficult because the level is SUPER long. But besides that, the game does give you tons of hearts in consideration, which makes it not as hard. Personally, I like the shorter, more difficult levels in 3D World and Galaxy 2 better, since they are more fun and rewarding to accomplish.
There is also a level on mario 3d land, when you finish all levels in the secret world you unlock by beating the boss, that i've never get into a half of it, but it was a few years ago and i can't play it anymore so i don't really know if it is that hard
7:53 you can sprint over those blocks and you'll run over the gaps instead of having to jump over each one. Same thing in the 2D Mario games with 1 block gaps
Champion's Road gave me WAAAAY more problems than The Perfect Run or any other levels including Darker Side or Super 8-Crown (3D Land). The Wii U version is actually harder IMO than the Switch version. The Perfect Run gets most of its difficulty from the psychological factor of having just one HP, going into it with a more calm and confident (but not overconfident) mindset cuts the difficulty in half. Not saying it's easy, it's definitely not. I'm usually pretty calm when playing video games, never getting more than a little frustrated for a few seconds, as I'm generally a fairly easygoing and positive, cheerful person. Champion's Road was the only one to rattle me. I actually got so frustrated I was yelling at the screen and swearing, very unusual for me. I called my family the morning I finally beat it and they were first like "Victoria, it's 5 AM, most of us don't get up as early as you do" then when I told them I beat Champion's Road all excitedly they were like "yeah, that's nice, tell me more about it later today". In retrospect, I should have waited until afternoon, it took me so long to beat it that I got the game for Christmas when I was a senior in high school, I didn't beat Champion's Road until I was in my junior year of college.
I completed Champions Road back when i was 15, with Mario mind you, which made everything significantly harder. I remember spending days attempting to beat it and always dying at the water part, The Wii U version with it's decreased moving speed for characters made that part so precise you couldn't miss once.
Well my man you have a lot to learn about darker side so i will educate you. Firstly the goombas are there for the optional miniboss that is the hat which gives you a life-up heart after defeat. Then in the uproot section there is a hidden block with a heart in it that you can use to stand on and get to the top ledge. There will be some coins there and you skip the ice-water section. You mentioned glydon being able to skip the forks section, but if you use the wind draft correctly then you can not only skip the entire sub-area. You can also completely skip bowser and then you close of by doing u-skip in the ending wire segment. And before you ask: no, I have not executed any of these skips myself because i unfortunately don't have the ability to.
Great video tho I think 3d land last level, which is the "Champions Road" of that game, it's harder than Champions Road itself. Ofc it doesn't mean that's harder than Galaxy 2, that's the toughest one XD
In the pull star section on the perfect run, you can purposely fall out of the pull star, catch yourself for vertical momentum and use that height to ignore most obstacles.
Yo i clicked on this vid after a long while since i last saw ur vids and it was supper funny to hear how ur voice changed, then i realized wors mario kart vid was 2 years ago damn. Glad to see u still uploading!
Correct me if I’m wrong, but on the Wii U version of 3D World, didn’t you have to beat every level as all of the characters including Rosalina? I’m asking because I didn’t get to Champions Road on the Wii U version, but I did on the Switch and just assumed it was the same.
More so than dying in one hit, the lack of checkpoints is what really makes the perfect run much harder than the regular version of grandmaster. Also, in champion's road, you can just run through the one-tile gaps at the beginning. And for those so-called "janky" piranha plant jumps, they feel that way because you were playing as Peach. You can just hold down the jump button the whole time with the other characters, but if you do that with Peach she will float instead, forcing you to time it.
Lilypad Level in Mario Sunshine is the hardest for me. Oh, the suffering to simply get there, only to realize its so messed Up and hard to Beat... No words
The perfect run only took me n my brother like 50 minutes probably because we realized how easily Co-Star Luma can be used to cheese it. It can hold the moving lasers in the pullstar bit, blow up the bomb mines, and freeze hammer bros/boomerang bros. Not to mention crouching by boomerang bros means their boomerangs miss you. Was absolutely relieving finally beating the game after 10 years. Champion’s Road on the other hand has taken us hours to beat. It was torture. And we have to go back in and beat it with the rest of the characters since there’s only two of us. Rosalina does absolutely cheese most of it though with the spin jump, especially the beat blocks. We haven’t beat darker side yet.
2:31 I see that you lose much of your height at one point, usually you just skip to bowser's part with this technique 5:13 I have a very helpful tip here if you don't mind playing as Luigi, if you backflip while facing the camera and go as far as you can in distance, not only you go forward very fast, but the lasers don't appear, as Luigi got so much height that the shooters dont detect him anymore 6:31 The gaps at this specific spot are short enough to run over them without falling
Champions road is the hardest (bias opinion because I got nowhere in galaxy 2 and therefore have never tried the perfect run). Also 3d land must be taken into account because it has a hardest level as well.
A note about the section mentioned at 7:49, the unusual feel and constant falling through the bars it not exclusive to the Switch version, it happened to me plenty of times on the Wii U version.
playing as toad on the wii u for mario 3d world is the hardest way to play this level in my opinion. tiny jump, slower than switch and no op dive or hover and without powerups i would say its the hardest level of them all
3:31 The flower part is not precise, the enemies can be avoided through timing The lazers are not random Crouching and not moving isn't a good examply of 'not making an error'
Some thoughts: It's possible to use Glydon to skip all the way to the Bowser section if you boost yourself up with a twister and shake like there's no tomorrow. This cuts out the hardest part of the level. (There have also at various been ways to skip the level entirely and go straight to the Moon, but they might have all been patched.) I've never beating The Perfect Run "as intended"; instead, I brought Yoshi along for the entire thing with the infinite flutter jump glitch. Bringing him through the cloud maze is a pain, but he makes the later sections much easier. The blocks at the end of the first section of Champion's Road are close enough together that you can just run across them as long as you manage to not land right in between the first two. The Ant Troopers and Piranha Creepers can be janky, but if you just go for it, they line up pretty nicely. (This is the one part of the level that's actually harder as Peach.) With all that in mind, I would say that The Perfect Run is the hardest of the three, though Champion's Road gives it a run for its money if you're not playing as Peach or Rosalina. Darker Side is a decent challenge, but Odyssey's insane movement ceiling and being able to take a reasonable number of hits lessen its difficulty significantly. Also, World Special 8-♕ from Super Mario 3D Land says hi.
I feel like Super Mario 3D Land's 8-Crown is a forgotten marathon level that could potentially compete with at least Darker Side. I don't know if I've ever played Darker Side but it doesn't look too difficult
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I think Champion's Road is the most interesting of the three. It felt a lot more streamlined than a mishmash of various levels, and I never felt like it was unfair, just precise. I think the music being more or less exclusive to it makes it a lot better of a final level, honestly. It makes it feel much more special. Then again, I played on Wii U and went to the HOME menu whenever I died so I didn't have to smuggle in powerups. So that may also be related lol
Champion's Road's music was also in that one top-down hexagon level and its harder rehash, so two stages before Champion's Road itself. If it were FULLY exclusive to Champion's Road it would REALLY feel special, especially since it's Gusty Garden and CR is very overtly Galaxy-themed and the end of the game.
there's a few methods to make champion's road much more consistent. For the Chargin' Chuck section, you can jump over it using boost/P speed and landing in the center. mario and toad may not be able to do this as easily, but everyone else can do it very well. you can also hug the top wall while at max speed to avoid the first chargin chuck. as for the piranha creeper section, if you're not holding any direction on the analog stick, you will lose all horizontal momentum upon bouncing. (it also seems like you weren't holding A, too). with the ants, you seemed to know the correct method, bouncing off of them and then wall jumping. the beat blocks have several ways to pass. it's possible to run full speed and do small jumps to barely reach each block at the end, and the timing will line up. you can also stall out with peach. the intended method seems to be hopping back and forth between them, however.
The beepblock section in champion's road is a lot more fun with a character that cant float. Jts really satisfying to stall in midair with ground pounds
My ranking: 1. The Perfect Run (i have 241 stars on galaxy 2) 2. Champions Road (easy to cheese as peach) 3. Darker Side (you can skip like half the level for this one) Edit: I just beat the perfect run and yup it was pretty hard
What about Mario Sunshine's lily pad stream level or pachinko machine? They are hard because of rushed game design rather than being intelligently difficult, but are still contenders nonetheless.
While Badge Marathon was the only gauntlet-style Mario level that I have ever played, I feel like The Perfect Run might be the hardest one, if Badge Marathon had no checkpoints and no mushroom at the start, then it would probably be toe to toe if not harder then The Perfect Run.
This probably would not change the veredict of the video but I definitely think you should've considered 3D Land's final level as well. It's the same "Grand Finale" style of level and the difficulty of it is definitely notable.
Reminder to all with access to ways to play galaxy 2 that I highly recommend trying to beat the perfect run but keeping yoshi all the way through using infinite flutter. Very challenging, but one of the most rewarding experiences in a mario game (even if one of the most flexless experiences because of the amount of time you have to waste explaining why it's cool)
I dont understand how you can give this to grandmaster galaxy like yeah i spent hours on it as a kid dying hundreds of times but after going back to it as an adult i beat it within single digit attempts just take your time, dont die trying to save a cloud, and use starbits/duck on the boomerang bros and you will be good
I am one of the 3 percent subscribed! Never played galaxy 2, but I agree champions road is harder than Odyssey. Part of that is how familiarity with Odyssey’s move set lets you game a lot of the level design. Which the developers did on purpose, and I love that. Have you played Celeste? If you like this sort of challenge, that’s pretty much all Celeste is.
I feel like there was a a bit of misunderstanding when it comes to Champions Road. The 1 space platforms can be crossed by just holding Y. And holding B as you fall on an enemy makes you jump automatically.
Champion’s Road is the only one of these I’ve beaten and AHHHH so true about some of the jumps just feeling off. Most of my deaths in 3D World felt so bad because I didn’t feel in control or like I knew where my character was going to end up after a jump. I’m still salty
Personally, I found the final green star house in 3D World's World Crown harder than Champion's Road. I beat Champion's road with at least 3 of the characters but I don't remember if I beat the mystery house even once.
Here’s how I would rank all of these levels from easiest to hardest, assuming you play as Mario in all three games to keep comparisons as fair as possible: -Darker Side with shortcuts and you can take damage -Darker Side with shortcuts but no damage taken -Champion’s Road with powerups -Darker Side without shortcuts but you can take damage -The Perfect Run with Yoshi -Champion’s Road without powerups -Darker Side with no shortcuts or damage taken -The Perfect Run without Yoshi (as far as I can tell, it’s designed to be impossible so it’s the hardest by default)
If i had to pick one, it absolutely has to be odyssey's. You give the game the most fluid controls some of the tightest jumps while also implementing cappy abilities and shortcuts for the bold are straight up maddening to pull off, and when someone finds a frog skip _instantly_ remove it, the game becomes pure chaos but in the best way possible..seriously i dare you to use assist mode and 2 player, I'd argue the assist bubble actually makes things harder cause it blocks you of shortcuts
Not only is the Switch version of 3D World easier (mostly due to the speed increase) but it’s also important to remember that in order to truly 100% the game, you must beat that level as all five different characters. It’s really hard to beat with Toad and Mario. I played the original Wii U version all the way to 100% when I was younger, and I 100%’d the Switch version a year ago.
Darker side took me 2 weeks as a 10 year old and I cheesed the end half with glydon. Something mentioned in this video is you can cheese the fork part with glydon. You can actually cheese the whole end part with him (it is just harder) you can fly all the way to the bowser portal.
Not sure if anyone else said it yet but the Impossible Pack DLC for NSMB2 is also really really hard, on par with these. Although I don't think this level can be bought anymore since the 3DS eshop closed unless you already have it
Yeah I did a Toad only, no power-ups, no damage run of the game a few years ago. Most of the game is pretty fun if a bit tense this way. The hardest level turned out to be the final world Star course without the cannon helmet. I had to, with Toad, gain speed, jump across massive gaps from the moving platforms to the switch blocks in order to bait the cannons into switching it at the correct time or just wait a cycle until the time is right, make it back to platform without falling (I failed this more times than I could count) with escalating difficulty. This put the movement skills I'd learned to the maximum test, I had to make nearly perfect jumps that were only possible thanks ground pound dive. The increased speed also made it harder since Toad just shoots of like a rocket. He's way harder to control than the others which is was why I chose him for the challenge. In comparison, champion's road wasn't that bad since I practically know the layout by heart though it did take a while to get it just right.
Champions road is very tough. But play Mario Sunshine and the Sand Bird and Pachinko will give you a rough time as well. I honestly think I spent longer on that stupid bird than I did on Champions Road.
Took me 2 hours to beat Champion's Road for the first time. Took me 2 MONTHS to beat The Perfect Run for the first time. I can easily agree that The Perfect Run is harder though I never tried Darker Side.
I think the version of Champions Road on the Wii U is actually much harder than the Switch version just because of your lack of ability to dive on the Wii U making it a lot more difficult to make quick recoveries
Not to mention all the characters are slower.
@@PaulRodela yeah I really feel like the slowness makes it so much harder honestly
@@jadecronayeah like that one section he kept back tracking on. You're supposed to run over it, but on the wiiu it's much slower so you'll get hit if you try running the entire time
True. I also think that playing as peach is an unfair comparison. Floating is very broken and it would also make the other levels better. No power ups mario is the way to compare these imo, and then champions road is harder than grandmaster galaxy
On the Wii U I couldn’t beat it. On the switch, I’ve beaten it with every character.
Also that champions road can be done with multiple players, which can fluctuate the difficulty depending on who you are playing with
It made my experience from impossible to easiest level and i'm not happy about that
8:15 oh no he doesn't know you can just hold the button to keep high bouncing on enemies in this game. No timing needed. The piranha creeper part is best done with Mario as it's designed for him to smoothly jump between them. Peach's float makes it weird since it entirely halts her upwards momentum. The other characters can do it more or less just fine. Also, I've died many times when I felt I shouldn't on the one block gap section too, you're supposed to just run across it, but the charging chucks make you jump, so at that point you can try to keep your speed and pray, or bounce on each chuck and hover (since you were using Peach, could also double jump with Rosalina), or take it carefully like you did, which is harder than it looks with the increased player speed.
You can also just run across the blocks where every second one is missing in champion's road.
Chamipons Road is definetly the one that gave me the hardest time of these three and i think the reason why is, as long as you arent playing peach or rosalina ,its the game that gives you the least movement options out of these three. I mean if you REALLY got the hang of odysee its kinda ridiculous what kinda stuff you can do.
I love how we all just collectively forgot that 3D Land also exists and also had a very difficult final bonus level.
I was surprised it wasn't here, it was really hard for me to beat it for the first time
Really? I got through it on my first attempt, although that may have been luck because I'm not good at video games and took 15 hours on Champion's Road.
3d land's final is easy cause tanooki leaf is cheese
cuz this one is just too ez compared to these 3 like
@@30THMAN. i really liked the part in nsmb2 where mario became 3d and 3ded all over the game
Every day the voice gets deeper and the content gets better
We want the ambiguous gay, female and/or child voice back >=\.
I am liking the original post out of spite of this reply@@GaybrohamStinkton
Deep octaves, deep content, deep vibes
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Here's my ranking of these levels. For completeness, I have also included Special 8-Crown from 3D Land and The Ultimate Test (the base version of Grandmaster Galaxy).
1. The Perfect Run
2. Champion's Road
3. The Ultimate Test
4. Special 8-Crown
5. Darker Side
Where would the final level of Wonder be at?
@@cjtheracer0113 Ineligible for comparison, as Wonder is a 2D game.
Why no Pachinko
@romancatholicgameing Because it's an optional side mission rather than a final post-game test of skill like the others.
Just a few things about champoin's road:
7:50 you dont have to land precisely on each block. You just have to land on the first one and the others you can just run over them. The challenge here is running past all of the charging enemies because if you have to jump to avoid them, then you have to do a good landing as well.
8:06 keep in mind that this stage is beatable by every character. And this section can also be done in many ways. It it a timing challenge. And also, for the double blocks, you can walljump from the next blocks (the one that is too far to reach) and land on the next block when it switches back.
8:11 The same thing happened to me until I realized that it is NOT timing based thing. You just have to hold jump and you will always get the max height when bouncing.
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"Bringing in powerups is cheating"
*Uses easiest character in the game that basically removes all challenge from most of the sections*
true... Though I think rosa is even more broken
You can run across the bars in Champions Road. Most jank you described is fixable by playing the sections correctly (with better strats)
The weird timing he mentioned could have been solved by keeping the jump button pressed.
agreed, sounded like a skill issue on his end 😭
I think this is a really good video! Though, you did forget about the secret final hard level in 3D Land, which is similar to 3D Worlds in structure while being entirely different
For me Champion's Road is definitely the hardest, with The Perfect Run at 2nd, and Darker Side is not even close to the first 2.
One thing worth noting is that to 100% 3D World, you need to beat Champion's Road with every character. I can't recall from memory which character is the hardest, but it's most likely Toad because of his smaller jump height. So if we're comparing which level is the hardest to beat by any means necessary, then yes, Champions Road isn't too bad. But considering it's involvement in 100% which necessitates playing with characters that aren't Peach or Rosalina, I personally think Champion's Road is the hardest.
you don't have to, you can just add them after you beat it
Toad definitely, and only because of the last section where you have to do those massive jumps on the boost panels. Almost impossible in the Wii U version with him, slightly possible in the Switch version.
But as long as you're playing as Luigi, Peach, or Rosalina the level is a piece of cake.
no lol@@AverageCommentor
toad isnt that hard
@@AK_804.
True enough, just you're way more likely to die with him. But Champion's Road as a whole isn't very difficult. I've created Mario Maker levels that give me more of a challenge lol.
When I was a kid me and my brother grinded to beat champion's road for like two months straight at one point. It was brutal, but we got there in the end.
Was it fun?
@@NickMario1Yeah! I remember bragging about it on Miiverse after we did it lol
your true gaming skills were born that day
Good video. The notorious "Lily Pad Ride Level" from Super Mario Sunshine might deserve a try as well.
@@Samandjam555Plinko is easy compared to the poison river red coins, easily.
As someone who is very used to the jank of Mario Sunshine I don't find either the lily pad shine or the Pachinko machine to be that hard.
This Level gave me ptsd ...
Lily Pad Ride's mainly just tedious to get to.
It’s pretty easy and also really funny
There is no question in my mind that Champion's Road is the hardest. The Perfect Run really only has two difficult sections, that being the fourth and final, whereas Champion's Road is difficult all the way through (And Darker Side was never even really a contender; it's more a test of resiliance than a test of skill, and forget skipping the Fork section, with Glydon you can also skip the Pokio and 2D sections by gliding straight to the Bowser portrait).
However, I feel like Special 8-Crown from 3D Land bares mentioning. It may not have been the first final gauntlet in 3D Mario, but I like to think this level truly laid the groundwork for what these levels are truly capable of. The platforming is tight, the style of platforming keeps switching on you preventing you from getting too comfortable, the obstacles are tight, and they even threw a boss fight in the middle of it. I still think Champion's Road has a higher barrier of completion, but I also think this level at least deserves to be in the competition.
Couldn't agree more. It's also worth mentioning that 3D world has multiplayer which can make it easier to beat Champions Road.
The Darker Side of the Moon is the easiest level out of all levels you mentioned.
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It’s only difficult because the level is SUPER long. But besides that, the game does give you tons of hearts in consideration, which makes it not as hard. Personally, I like the shorter, more difficult levels in 3D World and Galaxy 2 better, since they are more fun and rewarding to accomplish.
There is also a level on mario 3d land, when you finish all levels in the secret world you unlock by beating the boss, that i've never get into a half of it, but it was a few years ago and i can't play it anymore so i don't really know if it is that hard
With glideon you can skip the forks bowser and the part inbetween them with the infinite height glitch
Level S8-Crown from 3D Land is really hard level that nobody talks about.
Well honestly it’s really not that hard since most of the sections can be dodged fairly easily.
7:53 you can sprint over those blocks and you'll run over the gaps instead of having to jump over each one. Same thing in the 2D Mario games with 1 block gaps
I beat Champions Road and Darker Side first try, I still haven’t beaten GrandMaster Galaxy. It’s the hardest easily
Champion's Road gave me WAAAAY more problems than The Perfect Run or any other levels including Darker Side or Super 8-Crown (3D Land). The Wii U version is actually harder IMO than the Switch version. The Perfect Run gets most of its difficulty from the psychological factor of having just one HP, going into it with a more calm and confident (but not overconfident) mindset cuts the difficulty in half. Not saying it's easy, it's definitely not. I'm usually pretty calm when playing video games, never getting more than a little frustrated for a few seconds, as I'm generally a fairly easygoing and positive, cheerful person. Champion's Road was the only one to rattle me. I actually got so frustrated I was yelling at the screen and swearing, very unusual for me. I called my family the morning I finally beat it and they were first like "Victoria, it's 5 AM, most of us don't get up as early as you do" then when I told them I beat Champion's Road all excitedly they were like "yeah, that's nice, tell me more about it later today". In retrospect, I should have waited until afternoon, it took me so long to beat it that I got the game for Christmas when I was a senior in high school, I didn't beat Champion's Road until I was in my junior year of college.
I completed Champions Road back when i was 15, with Mario mind you, which made everything significantly harder.
I remember spending days attempting to beat it and always dying at the water part, The Wii U version with it's decreased moving speed for characters made that part so precise you couldn't miss once.
Well my man you have a lot to learn about darker side so i will educate you. Firstly the goombas are there for the optional miniboss that is the hat which gives you a life-up heart after defeat. Then in the uproot section there is a hidden block with a heart in it that you can use to stand on and get to the top ledge. There will be some coins there and you skip the ice-water section. You mentioned glydon being able to skip the forks section, but if you use the wind draft correctly then you can not only skip the entire sub-area. You can also completely skip bowser and then you close of by doing u-skip in the ending wire segment.
And before you ask: no, I have not executed any of these skips myself because i unfortunately don't have the ability to.
Great video tho I think 3d land last level, which is the "Champions Road" of that game, it's harder than Champions Road itself. Ofc it doesn't mean that's harder than Galaxy 2, that's the toughest one XD
In the pull star section on the perfect run, you can purposely fall out of the pull star, catch yourself for vertical momentum and use that height to ignore most obstacles.
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Yo i clicked on this vid after a long while since i last saw ur vids and it was supper funny to hear how ur voice changed, then i realized wors mario kart vid was 2 years ago damn.
Glad to see u still uploading!
For darker side you can also defeat the boss at the beginning for extra hearts
Correct me if I’m wrong, but on the Wii U version of 3D World, didn’t you have to beat every level as all of the characters including Rosalina?
I’m asking because I didn’t get to Champions Road on the Wii U version, but I did on the Switch and just assumed it was the same.
Not mentioned here but the final level for 100% of 3D Land is just as hard as these
More so than dying in one hit, the lack of checkpoints is what really makes the perfect run much harder than the regular version of grandmaster.
Also, in champion's road, you can just run through the one-tile gaps at the beginning. And for those so-called "janky" piranha plant jumps, they feel that way because you were playing as Peach. You can just hold down the jump button the whole time with the other characters, but if you do that with Peach she will float instead, forcing you to time it.
Lilypad Level in Mario Sunshine is the hardest for me. Oh, the suffering to simply get there, only to realize its so messed Up and hard to Beat... No words
The perfect run only took me n my brother like 50 minutes probably because we realized how easily Co-Star Luma can be used to cheese it. It can hold the moving lasers in the pullstar bit, blow up the bomb mines, and freeze hammer bros/boomerang bros. Not to mention crouching by boomerang bros means their boomerangs miss you. Was absolutely relieving finally beating the game after 10 years.
Champion’s Road on the other hand has taken us hours to beat. It was torture. And we have to go back in and beat it with the rest of the characters since there’s only two of us. Rosalina does absolutely cheese most of it though with the spin jump, especially the beat blocks.
We haven’t beat darker side yet.
2:31 I see that you lose much of your height at one point, usually you just skip to bowser's part with this technique
5:13 I have a very helpful tip here if you don't mind playing as Luigi, if you backflip while facing the camera and go as far as you can in distance, not only you go forward very fast, but the lasers don't appear, as Luigi got so much height that the shooters dont detect him anymore
6:31 The gaps at this specific spot are short enough to run over them without falling
Champions road is the hardest (bias opinion because I got nowhere in galaxy 2 and therefore have never tried the perfect run). Also 3d land must be taken into account because it has a hardest level as well.
bro on darker side you can get a 6 heart at the goombas if i remember clearly
A note about the section mentioned at 7:49, the unusual feel and constant falling through the bars it not exclusive to the Switch version, it happened to me plenty of times on the Wii U version.
Come on man we all know the hardest level is Yoshi Valley backwards in Mk8dx
Champions Road for me!
I feel so good, knowing i mastered it
And bro, you used peach to hover… so haha using no power ups
3D land has a final level that took me a pretty long time too
At 7:45 you could actually just dash along the blocks instead of jumping on each one. I learned that the hard way. Love your content.
8:13 You can just hold the jump button here
playing as toad on the wii u for mario 3d world is the hardest way to play this level in my opinion. tiny jump, slower than switch and no op dive or hover and without powerups i would say its the hardest level of them all
Special mention to getting all blue coins in Corona Mountain. A true nightmare.
3:31 The flower part is not precise, the enemies can be avoided through timing
The lazers are not random
Crouching and not moving isn't a good examply of 'not making an error'
Dude, im so proud of how far you came. You gonna be a great youtuber bro
Nobody mentions Super Mario 3D Land
Cuz nobody wants to play the ds game
@@JohnWorkplace????? 3ds sold so much
@@tman872 yes but its really inconvenient to play on a non-console thing like that, not to mention how challenging to capture it is for video
for the section in champion's road with the chargin chucks on the weird platforms, you can just run across the gaps. you don't have to jump.
Some thoughts:
It's possible to use Glydon to skip all the way to the Bowser section if you boost yourself up with a twister and shake like there's no tomorrow. This cuts out the hardest part of the level. (There have also at various been ways to skip the level entirely and go straight to the Moon, but they might have all been patched.)
I've never beating The Perfect Run "as intended"; instead, I brought Yoshi along for the entire thing with the infinite flutter jump glitch. Bringing him through the cloud maze is a pain, but he makes the later sections much easier.
The blocks at the end of the first section of Champion's Road are close enough together that you can just run across them as long as you manage to not land right in between the first two. The Ant Troopers and Piranha Creepers can be janky, but if you just go for it, they line up pretty nicely. (This is the one part of the level that's actually harder as Peach.)
With all that in mind, I would say that The Perfect Run is the hardest of the three, though Champion's Road gives it a run for its money if you're not playing as Peach or Rosalina. Darker Side is a decent challenge, but Odyssey's insane movement ceiling and being able to take a reasonable number of hits lessen its difficulty significantly.
Also, World Special 8-♕ from Super Mario 3D Land says hi.
I feel like Super Mario 3D Land's 8-Crown is a forgotten marathon level that could potentially compete with at least Darker Side. I don't know if I've ever played Darker Side but it doesn't look too difficult
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I think Champion's Road is the most interesting of the three. It felt a lot more streamlined than a mishmash of various levels, and I never felt like it was unfair, just precise.
I think the music being more or less exclusive to it makes it a lot better of a final level, honestly. It makes it feel much more special.
Then again, I played on Wii U and went to the HOME menu whenever I died so I didn't have to smuggle in powerups. So that may also be related lol
Champion's Road's music was also in that one top-down hexagon level and its harder rehash, so two stages before Champion's Road itself. If it were FULLY exclusive to Champion's Road it would REALLY feel special, especially since it's Gusty Garden and CR is very overtly Galaxy-themed and the end of the game.
there's a few methods to make champion's road much more consistent.
For the Chargin' Chuck section, you can jump over it using boost/P speed and landing in the center. mario and toad may not be able to do this as easily, but everyone else can do it very well. you can also hug the top wall while at max speed to avoid the first chargin chuck. as for the piranha creeper section, if you're not holding any direction on the analog stick, you will lose all horizontal momentum upon bouncing. (it also seems like you weren't holding A, too). with the ants, you seemed to know the correct method, bouncing off of them and then wall jumping. the beat blocks have several ways to pass. it's possible to run full speed and do small jumps to barely reach each block at the end, and the timing will line up. you can also stall out with peach. the intended method seems to be hopping back and forth between them, however.
That damn robot and the fire power up and shooting the boxes in Super Mario Galaxy 2 was a pain when I was a kid
The beepblock section in champion's road is a lot more fun with a character that cant float. Jts really satisfying to stall in midair with ground pounds
Loved the video! glad to see you branching out into more games.
My ranking:
1. The Perfect Run (i have 241 stars on galaxy 2)
2. Champions Road (easy to cheese as peach)
3. Darker Side (you can skip like half the level for this one)
Edit: I just beat the perfect run and yup it was pretty hard
Nice video Jopes!
What about Mario Sunshine's lily pad stream level or pachinko machine? They are hard because of rushed game design rather than being intelligently difficult, but are still contenders nonetheless.
so we all forgot about the true final level of super mario wonder?
While Badge Marathon was the only gauntlet-style Mario level that I have ever played, I feel like The Perfect Run might be the hardest one, if Badge Marathon had no checkpoints and no mushroom at the start, then it would probably be toe to toe if not harder then The Perfect Run.
It’s on 3d, Mario wonder isn’t 3d, so it isn’t included
I probably suck but no power ups Mario champions road sounds like the definition of pain
This probably would not change the veredict of the video but I definitely think you should've considered 3D Land's final level as well. It's the same "Grand Finale" style of level and the difficulty of it is definitely notable.
Gelato beach episode 8 (no glitches)
The cannon galaxy level on 3D world or whatever its called is much harder, just because you have to climb cannonballs which is hell
Reminder to all with access to ways to play galaxy 2 that I highly recommend trying to beat the perfect run but keeping yoshi all the way through using infinite flutter. Very challenging, but one of the most rewarding experiences in a mario game (even if one of the most flexless experiences because of the amount of time you have to waste explaining why it's cool)
I dont understand how you can give this to grandmaster galaxy like yeah i spent hours on it as a kid dying hundreds of times but after going back to it as an adult i beat it within single digit attempts just take your time, dont die trying to save a cloud, and use starbits/duck on the boomerang bros and you will be good
Darker side is pretty forgiving compared to champions road and galaxy
I am one of the 3 percent subscribed! Never played galaxy 2, but I agree champions road is harder than Odyssey. Part of that is how familiarity with Odyssey’s move set lets you game a lot of the level design. Which the developers did on purpose, and I love that. Have you played Celeste? If you like this sort of challenge, that’s pretty much all Celeste is.
I think Mario Wonder's final badge challenge is worth mentioning here, though its difficulty is cut down a bit by the inclusion of checkpoints
2d game, the entire video is 3d Mario hard levels, so Mario wonder is not included
I feel like there was a a bit of misunderstanding when it comes to Champions Road. The 1 space platforms can be crossed by just holding Y. And holding B as you fall on an enemy makes you jump automatically.
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I love your videos, keep it up
Yoshi's fruit adventure from sunshine is harder than all of these
Champion’s Road is the only one of these I’ve beaten and AHHHH so true about some of the jumps just feeling off. Most of my deaths in 3D World felt so bad because I didn’t feel in control or like I knew where my character was going to end up after a jump. I’m still salty
Personally, I found the final green star house in 3D World's World Crown harder than Champion's Road. I beat Champion's road with at least 3 of the characters but I don't remember if I beat the mystery house even once.
Here’s how I would rank all of these levels from easiest to hardest, assuming you play as Mario in all three games to keep comparisons as fair as possible:
-Darker Side with shortcuts and you can take damage
-Darker Side with shortcuts but no damage taken
-Champion’s Road with powerups
-Darker Side without shortcuts but you can take damage
-The Perfect Run with Yoshi
-Champion’s Road without powerups
-Darker Side with no shortcuts or damage taken
-The Perfect Run without Yoshi (as far as I can tell, it’s designed to be impossible so it’s the hardest by default)
Man, perfect run gives me a nostalgia burst
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The perfect run (i have not seen the vid yet)
Mario galaxy uno
If i had to pick one, it absolutely has to be odyssey's. You give the game the most fluid controls some of the tightest jumps while also implementing cappy abilities and shortcuts for the bold are straight up maddening to pull off, and when someone finds a frog skip _instantly_ remove it, the game becomes pure chaos but in the best way possible..seriously i dare you to use assist mode and 2 player, I'd argue the assist bubble actually makes things harder cause it blocks you of shortcuts
Not only is the Switch version of 3D World easier (mostly due to the speed increase) but it’s also important to remember that in order to truly 100% the game, you must beat that level as all five different characters. It’s really hard to beat with Toad and Mario. I played the original Wii U version all the way to 100% when I was younger, and I 100%’d the Switch version a year ago.
You should do a hardest 2d Mario level video next. There’s definitely a lot of candidates to choose from in that series.
Super Mario 3D-Land also has a super hard final level, but it's been a while since I beat it so admittedly I don't remember how difficult it is.
7:45 you're supposed to run across these blocks with gaps. Makes it a lot easier
Okay but Purple Coins in the Bone Pen 🍗
Darker side took me 2 weeks as a 10 year old and I cheesed the end half with glydon.
Something mentioned in this video is you can cheese the fork part with glydon. You can actually cheese the whole end part with him (it is just harder) you can fly all the way to the bowser portal.
as a 10 year old it took me a singular day with the same technique
The answer was Luigi's purple coin. It's the only level I remember from all these games.
the purple coin level in super mario galaxy 1 with the disappearing platforms was hard asf
Not sure if anyone else said it yet but the Impossible Pack DLC for NSMB2 is also really really hard, on par with these. Although I don't think this level can be bought anymore since the 3DS eshop closed unless you already have it
3D hardest levels, nsmb2 is 2d, so therefore it isn’t allowed
You can just run across the bars in the part with the chargin chucks
I think you should do what you did with Mario kart and play every Mario game
This video is a trick question, it’s actually Gelato Beach episode 4: A Sand Bird is Born
Champions road with toad is really tough
Yeah I did a Toad only, no power-ups, no damage run of the game a few years ago. Most of the game is pretty fun if a bit tense this way. The hardest level turned out to be the final world Star course without the cannon helmet. I had to, with Toad, gain speed, jump across massive gaps from the moving platforms to the switch blocks in order to bait the cannons into switching it at the correct time or just wait a cycle until the time is right, make it back to platform without falling (I failed this more times than I could count) with escalating difficulty. This put the movement skills I'd learned to the maximum test, I had to make nearly perfect jumps that were only possible thanks ground pound dive. The increased speed also made it harder since Toad just shoots of like a rocket. He's way harder to control than the others which is was why I chose him for the challenge. In comparison, champion's road wasn't that bad since I practically know the layout by heart though it did take a while to get it just right.
Champions road is very tough. But play Mario Sunshine and the Sand Bird and Pachinko will give you a rough time as well. I honestly think I spent longer on that stupid bird than I did on Champions Road.
Took me 2 hours to beat Champion's Road for the first time.
Took me 2 MONTHS to beat The Perfect Run for the first time.
I can easily agree that The Perfect Run is harder though I never tried Darker Side.
darker side doesnt come to mind for me, its special 8 crown