Episode 240: How To Roleplay The Tzimisce

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  • @Crushanator1
    @Crushanator1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    checking in from the dysmorphic egg Nosferatu to glorious trans Tzimitze pipeline

  • @DJchilcott
    @DJchilcott 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I once played a high humanity tzimisce who would use his vissicitude to perform corrective surgery for those who needed it, but couldn't afford it.

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    5:37 There's another:
    Vampires are undead who couldn't care less about gender roles and other cultural concepts of the kine. Who cares if Troile was male or female? No one does. Who cares about the cultural norms at a certain point in history besides that when they undied? Maybe only the Toreador. If a trans person is wearing "feminine" clothes when they talk to a Vampire who was alive in Rome, the elder might comment in broken English "Finally, someone with good taste who hasn't adopted the barbaric trend of wearing pantaloons!"

  • @mussardlucien6355
    @mussardlucien6355 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just roleplayed the Tzimisce as a misunderstood "artist". My best (only?) pal was actually a Toreador x)

  • @blackfox2973
    @blackfox2973 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I used to larp a "Catiff" who had Vissisitude.
    (*Coughs Sabbat agent coughs*)
    I would make clay sculptures of the Pokemon my character, who looks like a 10 year old kid, would make and show them off at gathering, no one ever figured out I was playing a dumb kid.
    I was the only pack member to survive the game, and fled to Sabbat controlled territory after my last pack mate was killed by Garou.
    *Sighs* good times.

  • @RD22TT
    @RD22TT วันที่ผ่านมา

    I tried to play a Tzimisce like a spy master, one time. Playing on the idea of a "dragon" hoarding and selling secrets. He got mauled by a werewolf, and that was the end of him. It was the first time I ever played a Tzimisce but it won't be the last.

  • @UnseelieFaelass
    @UnseelieFaelass 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So Tzimisce really would Kain from Legacy of Kain huh? Not just because Nozgoth vampires adapt their bodies overtime, but Kain himself actually adjusts his philosophies over the games' timelines and even ascends after Defiance ends once Raziel enters the Soul Reaver. Purifying it and Kain by extension. Wonder if Golconda would ever be on his mind in the VTM universe. Either way, he and Dracula would likely have interesting conversations.

  • @Sharkakaka
    @Sharkakaka 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Time to TRANSfigure some poor kindred that got stuck in a form they do not like

  • @joshuahebert7972
    @joshuahebert7972 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Easily my favorite clan. Not a clan just defined by physical change. But also by mentality, with the road of metamorphosis.

  • @foulmoodcentral2830
    @foulmoodcentral2830 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I find their covetousness is an interesting flaw, but seems to me like it would also make for a decent bane. desiring something like property, ornaments, or even people because they are important or dear to another such as a rival or former companion in life are all good motives or investments for a dragon. I would substitute this over forced courtesy unless the character is from a particular older era that had such decorum in the first place.

  • @WanderingRagabond
    @WanderingRagabond 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When I introduced my enby sibling to VTM, I had a feeling what their favorite clan would be. I was not disappointed.

  • @TheChesher
    @TheChesher 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yessss!!!!
    I'll give this a watch as soon as I can!
    Thanks for making this!

  • @eyeofthoth2003
    @eyeofthoth2003 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hot take: the Tzimisce are more evil as a whole than the Tremere
    (I do love the Tzimisce)

  • @diamondjack75
    @diamondjack75 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any thoughts or dare I say "love" for Old Clan Tzimisce? Not everyone of us likes or even cares about "Vicissitude". Some of "us" are perfectly content with how we were made in the first place.

  • @1005corvuscorax
    @1005corvuscorax 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After your Brujah video where you explained the ACTUAL pronunciation of Brujah (thanks be to 1st ed.) I was wondering how you'd pronounce Tzimisce, since this clan name has *multiple* pronunciations even back in the 1st ed Player's Guide to the Sabbat.
    Of all the variations way back then, I always preferred ZJIM-ee-see or SHA-mee-SAY.
    Though, as a Storyteller, I had a lot of fun playing with the various pronunciation of that clan :)
    And I really like this variation- "Dzi-MEE-tsee". The variations in the ways to pronounce something this alien is perfect.
    Unlike the pronunciation of Brujah, which is canon back to 1992 :)

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @Mr.Fox1213
    @Mr.Fox1213 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man the Tremere are my favorite clan but deep down i know they are just a glorified bloodline of the Tzimisce, which must mean Tzimisce is my favorite clan!

    • @joshuahebert7972
      @joshuahebert7972 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is some truth to this. The Tremere are, in my opinion kinda are a caitiff/tzimisce bloodline. The majority of experiments Goratrix performed, in study of the vampire "physiology" was on Tzimisce, and maybe Gangrel and Nosferatu. Also, kinda sense to me that the early study of these clans, gave a headstart on the creation of gargoyles, which would largely explain why a whole mystic bloodline kinda sprung up overnight, vampirically speaking.

  • @zory6699
    @zory6699 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    fleshy controlling landlords with hording problems xDDDDDDDD

  • @ironheadgaming6270
    @ironheadgaming6270 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You got the Touch
    You got the Power
    Yeah

  • @Zee-iv9oe
    @Zee-iv9oe 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    anyone else hearing sisters of mercy in the background when lore says dominion

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lucretia, my reflection 😘

  • @Bies546
    @Bies546 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not a fan what a V5 did to tzimisce to be honest😢. I always wanted to try tzimisce scholar who is focused on sorrcerys ( all of them necromancy included). This can be a intresting idea for someone to rp. Lore would you recommend blood sigil book? I not gonna lie i lost faith in V5, but im curious as well how this book looks like and whats inside it.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Your idea would be wasted with Blood Sigils imo

    • @Bies546
      @Bies546 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LoreByNightVtM would you do a review of this book? And I'm not suprised that it would be waisted. I creates this character idea with V20 in mind. Thanks for reply.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Bies546 I recorded my review this week, which will be dropping in about a month's time

  • @burningbronze7555
    @burningbronze7555 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What was clan tzimisce based on as they are rather unlike other ideas of vampires as flesh warping is not a common idea and has no clear origin

    • @neuendo
      @neuendo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Actually, they are based on more traditional vampire tales. Mostly the way out there folktales, and the original Dracula. It goes as far as making Vlad the Impaler a Tzimisce. Bram Stoker's novel even has Dracula traveling around with soil from his homeland, thus their original clan bane.

    • @burningbronze7555
      @burningbronze7555 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@neuendo the flesh warping is more my point as I know of no other vampires who have such a concept

    • @smuggrog9821
      @smuggrog9821 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The Tzimisce took a lot of inspiration from the Whampri from the Necroscope novels, pretty much all the body horror and the general alien nature of the clan comes from the Whampri. Even the whole Viscissitude being a virus thing, comes from Necroscope since the vampires in that are created when living beings are infected by parasitic leeches from another dimension. So clan Tzimisce is essentially a mix of more classic depictions of vampires with Dracula inspiration and more alien and out there depictions of vampires with the Necroscope vampires.

    • @styrax7280
      @styrax7280 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I remember hearing of a slavic vampire that has no bones but I can't find its name. That could be extrapolated to viscissitude.

    • @burningbronze7555
      @burningbronze7555 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smuggrog9821 strange I am reading the first one I guess it has not hit that bit yet