Episode 8: Clan Tzimisce

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  • WARNING: Torture & incest are two themes in this episode, towards the end of the podcast. If those sort of things bothers you, give this one a miss.
    If you’re new in town or just new to this whole podcast thing, you’re tuning into ‘Lore by Night’, the podcast that discusses all things vampiric, with no fear of breaching The Masquerade. In this episode, we continue to unravel the mysteries behind the origins, motives and cultures of the 13 vampiric clans in the World of Darkness. This episode will focus on the scholarly flesh-shapers, Clan Tzimisce.
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ความคิดเห็น • 87

  • @litchqueenasenath5995
    @litchqueenasenath5995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I always keep a masterwork cloak, with fabric made from 75% Tremere just in case I need a favor from an Elder Tzimisce.
    "Yes, my tailor used only the heartstrings of Tremere neonates. It took ages to farm them."

  • @ΠιέρροςΔεμέστιχας
    @ΠιέρροςΔεμέστιχας 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The one dislike is from a Tremere - I am certain of it!

  • @katherinedobbs52
    @katherinedobbs52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I started planning a fledgling Tzimisce who disguises themself as a Toreador for a modern San Diego Anarchs campaign, and this was a lovely background on the clan!

  • @iron666221666221
    @iron666221666221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It’s always funny to hear all different pronounciation of the Tzimisce

  • @aggeloskourlis8896
    @aggeloskourlis8896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    As a Tzimisce player this helped a lot to understand my clan better. (By the way. My character hails from the Szantovich family)
    Thank you for this awesome work

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks so much! I appreciate you taking the time to show your appreciation!! 😆

  • @enzoventurieri8671
    @enzoventurieri8671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Your narrative and storytelling is incredible. I hope more people discover the treasure that this channel is.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you so much! That has made my day! 😆

    • @KS-PNW
      @KS-PNW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LoreByNightVtM Enzo is right
      I just found it tonight and subscribed, loving your work!

    • @eskurian8565
      @eskurian8565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KS-PNW same here. I'm going to recommend this to my Vampire RP group! Your voice is awesome, great diction and drama.

    • @tombirmingham7033
      @tombirmingham7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      real life the tzimisce are based off of a secret society called the "green dragon society" a group of satanist that were thulians and synarchists. BTW they have ties the the bulsi/fascists

  • @jonathansnow2843
    @jonathansnow2843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I would throw so much money at a Kickstart with Tzimisce in v5.

    • @azazel6342
      @azazel6342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So would I. They're my 1st choice when that option is available.

    • @rparks2010
      @rparks2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@azazel6342 theyre available with the companion guide

  • @НемањаРашевић
    @НемањаРашевић 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It really bothers me that Serbia is never mentioned in Vampire stories, even here in Eastern European clan no mention, but the Vampire concept is from Serbian mythology... I really don't get it...

  • @RedFeralWolf
    @RedFeralWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Some friends and I just started a one shot (that might continue later) and I’m playing one of the fiends ran from the Sabbat and who’s now trying to prove himself to be allowed to stay with the anarchs. We’re breaking into a Tremere ancilla’s personal haven. So thank you for the lore so I can play him right.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am more than happy to oblige ☺️

    • @RedFeralWolf
      @RedFeralWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lore By Night odd question but as I haven’t played one before could I ask for body mod ideas? Any are cool but mostly things that can be hidden as he’s trying to keep his clan a bit of a secret. I have moved his heart to his pelvis and it’s wrapped in bone but other then that I don’t know and I can’t find many good examples of changes they can make.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      First of all, Tzimisce Vicissitude does not effect organs. You could move your pelvis to your heart, but not the other way round. You cannot alter organs with Tzimisce Vicissitude.
      Second, any body modifications would cause some suspicions, unless you had them covered up, only to unveil for dramatic emphasis.

    • @RedFeralWolf
      @RedFeralWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lore By Night ahh I was misinformed. Thank you for letting me know.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No worries 😊

  • @ConernicusRex
    @ConernicusRex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The root of vicissitude is viscera pronounced vih-sir-uh. It’s not pronounced “vy-sih-tude”

  • @vicnedel02
    @vicnedel02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Best clan.
    Vampires are supposed to be terrifying and monstrous, and don't you forget it.
    The Tzimisce achieve this with body horror, the most extreme and disturbing kind of horror.

  • @crescentgemini9093
    @crescentgemini9093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Imagine a medical practitioner/surgeon also versed in the general fields of biology and bio-chemistry... We have such sights to show you! I had some ideas : a "mammalian tarantula" made from the bodies of cats, the bones hollowed to have the lightweight property of those of birds, their teeth merged to make two big ass fangs with tubes to inject a venom secreted from their repurposed viscera (the whole "predigest and slurp up kind of deal), the muscles and tendons reduced in mass but stiffened and tensed to immeasurable levels, with all the necessary extra joints to make an agile and fast nimble climbing jumper... and their eyes... I always wondered how far the ability of vicissitude extended. How Do I mean? By not only making bigger eyes, with a wider larger photo-sensitive surface, but by adding to that sensitivity by adding "extra parts" on the microscopic level, that is, rods to the retina from the other spare eyes. Instead of 4 claws per legs, they would be merged and repurposed into 2 thick large unretracktable claws to help with climbing... and maiming... and so on, and yes, they would have cute puppy eyes and fluffy fur like jumping spider, for a bit of that "cute yet creepy" factor, and they would purr, no spider webs, saddly. This is only one idea of many, even had the idea of creating "living statues", either as guardians or a form of torture.

  • @philmcwonder8173
    @philmcwonder8173 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Favorite Clan. Even without their clan discipline they still fascinate me.

  • @OldJerzyDevil
    @OldJerzyDevil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There are rumors that the Eldest never met his true Final Death. Some believe a part of him was carried off by the Dracon to recreate the Cathedral of Flesh beneath a city in the New World..

  • @brianlewolfhunt
    @brianlewolfhunt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The wiki brings up some aspect of control for the clan, as the dirt thing has been replaced by things that the vamp has an attachment to or dominance over, and the entire host/guest relationship is an association to that. That part I do find intriguing as well, as a clan that is described is inhuman even by other vamps have such strong attachments. Am I off base with my speculation?

  • @quinmanley4928
    @quinmanley4928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh god. Dominate, auspex amd vicissitude. What a horrific combination.

  • @kellyleakey2962
    @kellyleakey2962 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Metal gear quote amazing .love this channel

  • @wolfbane7497
    @wolfbane7497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know the way that you talk and your voice you sound like Beckett and I like it you have a Beckett feel to your voice. Always questioning always contradicting and being a little bit sarcastic whenever you getting a little bit of information you're always skeptical. Getting down to the real nitty gritty facts about kindred what is true and what's not true but reading what you've already recorded.

  • @spiderbugbear3721
    @spiderbugbear3721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pronunciation confusion originates in using latin alphabet to spell it. If one knows Russian then things become more clear: Vampire=Вампир=Pierces (You)
    Tzimisce=Змеистый= Wyrm-like.

  • @Cristoferurlaub
    @Cristoferurlaub 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love that subtle Fallout reference.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Glad you thought it was subtle 😂😂

    • @manonm3681
      @manonm3681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Loved that too, made me giggle x)

  • @YaminoSeigi
    @YaminoSeigi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the closest thing to Dark Eldar in real world setting

  • @alarex8204
    @alarex8204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your videos are so epic! Would love a full video on Kuldunic sorcery. It's hard to find information on it.
    Thank you for the podcast, it's awesome :)

  • @jazzknh1105
    @jazzknh1105 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh this is beautfifully done, I'll be listening in the future.

  • @KamiKyojin
    @KamiKyojin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Narration is good. Storytelling is good. Ambience is good.
    Reading and pronounciation needs work though. Some Slavic words being weird is logical, but at sime points you dropped entire syllables, like conSTANtinople or viscISSitude.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤡👟👟

    • @KamiKyojin
      @KamiKyojin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LoreByNightVtM are...are you calling me a clown shoe because I pointed out room for improvement? Or are you fessing up, like "ye, my bad"? Because that reply is a bit vague, my guy

  • @holycasius8779
    @holycasius8779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tzimisce reminds me of family of byzantine nobles :p the way its is written i mean :p therefore i pronounce it in greek which is Jimiski ( j as you say just )

  • @Bies546
    @Bies546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best clan no doubt. Sad that I can not say the same about v5 fiends

  • @thegamingandy4603
    @thegamingandy4603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Count Dracula? A Tzimisce? 😐❓
    How pathetic. Don't make me laugh. 😂

  • @dronesndstuff626
    @dronesndstuff626 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite vampire lore channel!

  • @Noxims47314
    @Noxims47314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At first glance i always thought it was pronounced Tzee-meet-ch

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is one of those words where no one really knows, judging by the rest of the comments 🙃

  • @scottlatta5180
    @scottlatta5180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best Clan Ever

  • @joelfernandez536
    @joelfernandez536 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't worry about how to pronounce tzimisce. Work on viviscitude, immune and Constantinople. Other than that, Good atmosphere, good read.

  • @sintechnics7838
    @sintechnics7838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never have I ever wanted to play a dragon more

  • @williamgunter4268
    @williamgunter4268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure if you will see this comment on an old video butbhere it goes anyway. Great job this is my favorite clan by far. I used to play VTM in the 90s and I have latley got hit by the nostalgia bug hard for all things VTM. Sadly I no longer have my books but im thinking about getting them again. I dont know anything about V5 so my reference are all old. I had the orginal Sabbot book and then when dark ages came out i always playes an old clan or what i called true clan. I seen on the wiki i think some lore has been changed a lot about demon etc. I always had vis etc. I look forward to your other clan breakdowns etc. Its great to know the World of Darkness is still around.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seen it, loved it and appreciated it 🥰

  • @yannievalaziotis4627
    @yannievalaziotis4627 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:45
    Fallout reference?

  • @MetAlexTHVK
    @MetAlexTHVK ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m a brand-new VTM enthusiast preparing to run my first ever Chronicle and these episodes have been a boon in understanding all the clans in a concise, condensed, and flavorful way. I LOVE how you wrap each episode with a distinct flair and this one has been the most chilling yet.
    Fantastic work on these, many thanks from an aspiring ST in the making.

  • @sheslogic1926
    @sheslogic1926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tzimisce I am

  • @Nosferatu755
    @Nosferatu755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the Oprichniki, given the fall of the Iron Curtain

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't possibly mention everything, as this is meant as basic learning

  • @Vysetra
    @Vysetra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TZIMISCE LETS GOOOOOO.

  • @kadarr7953
    @kadarr7953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude nice video ! I would love to understand it better xD im from argentina and my english is not the best~ But dude, really great video and narrativa.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m glad you enjoyed it and I can’t type Argentinean to thank you properly

    • @kadarr7953
      @kadarr7953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoreByNightVtM Haha its all okay ! this helps me to improve my english, and there is not too much information about this clan in spanish. Thank you again !

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that’s good at least. I don’t feel so bad now. Glad I have been able to help!

  • @noway8259
    @noway8259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which episode is on these...??asamites?? that keep coming up?

  • @bjhan73
    @bjhan73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well done

  • @philknecht3598
    @philknecht3598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vis-Iss-Eh-Tude. Not VIce-a-Tude.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It wasn't really necessary of you to add to the number of people correcting me on that this episode, but thanks I think?

    • @philknecht3598
      @philknecht3598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoreByNightVtM get your shit together. This is the fucking internet.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doesn't mean you get to be fucking rude because you were too lazy to see if anyone had already told me to correct my pronounciaton. Fuck off with your aggressive comments

    • @jonin0001
      @jonin0001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck off. Thanks

    • @philknecht3598
      @philknecht3598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonin0001 you’re welcome. God bless

  • @xxXXRAPXXxx
    @xxXXRAPXXxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A few years ago i tried to find some videos of the Noble clan and only found a few but it seems that in recent months at least a few videos popped up this one included. It is good to see the Noble clan getting the attention it rightfully deserves.

    • @LoreByNightVtM
      @LoreByNightVtM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are a very interesting clan, beyond being macabre surgeons.