Thanks for the guide! I was playing mid with fleet all this time, never knowing you can actually outdamage ur opponent with other rune options. I tried playing with youmuu and liked it a lot, but I feel like it punishes you too hard for not building crit second, and if you are not hyper snowballing or made a mistake - falls in damage very fast. Collector + mercs in to EI -> LDR is not that fun, but more reliable and has a better powerspike on 3.5 items and lvl 13, that's the style I play now.
Thank you for the educational content, Haytem! I've been looking for someone like you to help me improve my matchups and fundamentals on GP, especially where I'm lacking. Keep up the great work-I really appreciate it!
I mean, kind of but no. Some champs simply do not have the tools to do what others do. Kaisa is a poor support, offering worse early game, poke and cc than lux, for example. Sure you can but there are times when champs are strictly worse than another at a role.
@CyaNerdz it's about the team as a whole. If you can get the enemy to put their stuff on cd for your team to capitalize it's worth it if you get a kill or something like flash/ghost
@@BatesTheMaster I don’t disagree but some champs are clearly better at this (and other roles) than others. Nautilus is great because he can lock you down for ages. Kaisa support has far fewer times where it can achieve this.
TP is ALWAYS good to take while ignite can be situational good so it comes down to preference My personal preferences for ignite matchups: Talon, Qiyana, Yasuo Matchups where i would NEVER take ignite: Syndra, Orianna, Akshan, Azir
Thank you for the content, but I noticed that with the build going tri force -> serpents Fang -> steelcaps -> collector -> IE -> last whisper, it will not stack the 10 stats for jack of all trades. In this case, do you recommend switching collector to another item like yomuu's or navori?
In this case what i do is build last whisper early either after serpents or after collector, and i hold on to my dblade untill i have enough for bf sword to buy IE so my build will look something like this: tri > serpents + steelcaps > last whisper > collector > finish ldr/mortal > sell dblade > ie tri > serpents + steelcaps > collector > ldr/mortal > sell dblade > ie after selling d blade at full build you will be at 9 jack stacks but you have IE so its not a big deal, the extra AD is most important for the early/mid game, not so relevant for the late game
@@HaytemGP yea I was, idk what it is. I was at the exact same time and items as u, exact runes and all and the backline always had around 10-12hp. lvl 8 is the earliest i can get it to work. Not sure what im missing i have the 5 stacks from jack and sheen proc etc. 70%+ hp Edit: i think it's because i went double longsword not triple, if so my bad will recheck haha
hello haytem, i have been starting doran's ring, and i've seen no difference to dmg early game, but i have been able to spam way more skills than normal, do you think, in your honest opinion, that it is viable to start ring? note: i am a low elo gp enjoyer and i only played gp mid as well, i actually hate playing him top lol.
Tbh abilty haste is a pretty bait stat to buy on Gangplank imo Most of the time completing a full item with 20haste reduces like .8 sec off your barrel total cd, which is negligible I've tested around with Axiom i think its totally valid as a 2nd item too, not a fan of Hubris because first you need to stack it and the extra AD you get is only available for 90 sec after a kill
Thanks for the response! I'll keep it in mind, never gave Youmuu's a chance. Btw, i just tried it in practice tool and at level 13, with Doran's, Mercury's and Trinity, running Jack of All Trades, Absolute Focus and Adaptive shard: Youmuu's barrel recharge is 10.4s Axiom barrel recharge is 9.03s I would say it's pretty comfy and may be useful when side lanning, but Youmuu's MS could help when rotating
imo against LB and Zed it's better to play for killing them with ignite and grasp/comet , not letting them breath and brute forcing them is more interesting , Zed hard outscale GP once he's able to kill GP without real counter play possible it become too hard to play as GP , Leblanc the issue is if you let her play and just play for scaling / survive , she will destroye your team , she's 10 times you in both squirmich and roaming , the only ground where you can play is by bruteforcing her and snowball her with ignite , GP has some key to destroye leblanc in lane if you play good
Ignite isn’t that good of a summoner on a carry past 15 minutes. It really falls off. It’s almost always better to run Tp,or something else that will stay useful.
Thanks for the guide! I was playing mid with fleet all this time, never knowing you can actually outdamage ur opponent with other rune options.
I tried playing with youmuu and liked it a lot, but I feel like it punishes you too hard for not building crit second, and if you are not hyper snowballing or made a mistake - falls in damage very fast. Collector + mercs in to EI -> LDR is not that fun, but more reliable and has a better powerspike on 3.5 items and lvl 13, that's the style I play now.
Rushing Collector definitely works too, better early spike but later on you definitely need a 2nd lethality item to deal max damage on a crit barrel
Thank you for the educational content, Haytem! I've been looking for someone like you to help me improve my matchups and fundamentals on GP, especially where I'm lacking. Keep up the great work-I really appreciate it!
Comfirmation from you feels so good
Do not value the confirmation of others. Only your own.
Sick guide, love it❤
Every champ can play every roll. Just people love following the rules. Leona can jungle, braum can carry. Its just the pilot not the hero that matters
I mean, kind of but no. Some champs simply do not have the tools to do what others do.
Kaisa is a poor support, offering worse early game, poke and cc than lux, for example. Sure you can but there are times when champs are strictly worse than another at a role.
@CyaNerdz then she can be a roam. Looking for early initiation to burn the enemy spells so the lane can capitalize.
@CyaNerdz it's about the team as a whole. If you can get the enemy to put their stuff on cd for your team to capitalize it's worth it if you get a kill or something like flash/ghost
@@BatesTheMaster I don’t disagree but some champs are clearly better at this (and other roles) than others. Nautilus is great because he can lock you down for ages. Kaisa support has far fewer times where it can achieve this.
Thanks for the quick guide, what about sum ? when do you choose tp over ignite ?
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TP is ALWAYS good to take while ignite can be situational good so it comes down to preference
My personal preferences for ignite matchups: Talon, Qiyana, Yasuo
Matchups where i would NEVER take ignite: Syndra, Orianna, Akshan, Azir
@@HaytemGP Thanks very helpful
@@HaytemGP thanks
Solid guide
So good guide!
How do you play against zed ? I played a game facing him and it was unplayable
Thank you for the content, but I noticed that with the build going tri force -> serpents Fang -> steelcaps -> collector -> IE -> last whisper, it will not stack the 10 stats for jack of all trades. In this case, do you recommend switching collector to another item like yomuu's or navori?
In this case what i do is build last whisper early either after serpents or after collector, and i hold on to my dblade untill i have enough for bf sword to buy IE
so my build will look something like this:
tri > serpents + steelcaps > last whisper > collector > finish ldr/mortal > sell dblade > ie
tri > serpents + steelcaps > collector > ldr/mortal > sell dblade > ie
after selling d blade at full build you will be at 9 jack stacks but you have IE so its not a big deal, the extra AD is most important for the early/mid game, not so relevant for the late game
Have you tried any dark harvest matches? I think it's pretty good for a scale match.
If I do not pick up an early kill I tend to lack the gold for the third longsword when lvl 7, any advise?
I never buy refillable potion and i always aim to have between 50-60 cs at lvl 7
We ever go fleet footwork on midlane for range matchups or just comet?
Only comet 😎
@HaytemGP thanks boss
i had the exact items u had at the same time at lvl 7, and couldnt 1 shot backline minions with sheen proc. Idk what im missing, exact runes and all
were you perhaps below 70% hp? You have to be above 70% HP for the extra AD from absolute focus
@@HaytemGP yea I was, idk what it is. I was at the exact same time and items as u, exact runes and all and the backline always had around 10-12hp. lvl 8 is the earliest i can get it to work. Not sure what im missing i have the 5 stacks from jack and sheen proc etc. 70%+ hp
Edit: i think it's because i went double longsword not triple, if so my bad will recheck haha
hello haytem, i have been starting doran's ring, and i've seen no difference to dmg early game, but i have been able to spam way more skills than normal, do you think, in your honest opinion, that it is viable to start ring? note: i am a low elo gp enjoyer and i only played gp mid as well, i actually hate playing him top lol.
You're trolling lmao ring is bad
@HaytemGP i see, so i should always go d blade?
Why not go Hubris/Axiom Arc on the lethality item slot? Both are better in terms of gold efficiency and give haste, a premium stat for GP nowadays
Tbh abilty haste is a pretty bait stat to buy on Gangplank imo
Most of the time completing a full item with 20haste reduces like .8 sec off your barrel total cd, which is negligible
I've tested around with Axiom i think its totally valid as a 2nd item too,
not a fan of Hubris because first you need to stack it and the extra AD you get is only available for 90 sec after a kill
Thanks for the response!
I'll keep it in mind, never gave Youmuu's a chance.
Btw, i just tried it in practice tool and at level 13, with Doran's, Mercury's and Trinity, running Jack of All Trades, Absolute Focus and Adaptive shard:
Youmuu's barrel recharge is 10.4s
Axiom barrel recharge is 9.03s
I would say it's pretty comfy and may be useful when side lanning, but Youmuu's MS could help when rotating
excellent guy althought i can only listen to solarbacca
Not to sound ungrateful but any chance we can get more uploads? Liking the content
So Grasp isn't the go to anymore for GP against melee? I tried comet on a trundle and He destroyed my lane after one good gank 😢😢
Grasp is totally viable on Gangplank, this is a guide meant for midlane my bro🤣
Do still mods for Naayil Twitch stream ? Or are you still his editor ?
No i don't edit for Naayil anymore 😁
thx u so much
Against LB/Zed i like to play with fleet footwork for the sustain. The rest i do the same
imo against LB and Zed it's better to play for killing them with ignite and grasp/comet , not letting them breath and brute forcing them is more interesting , Zed hard outscale GP once he's able to kill GP without real counter play possible it become too hard to play as GP , Leblanc the issue is if you let her play and just play for scaling / survive , she will destroye your team , she's 10 times you in both squirmich and roaming , the only ground where you can play is by bruteforcing her and snowball her with ignite , GP has some key to destroye leblanc in lane if you play good
@@Jimfr37 *skirmish not squirmich
thought I would help
@@zombieboss5178 thanks
ok instalocked gp mid first time lets see how it goes
so how did it go? 😂
@@HaytemGP lol shit im too dumb to play gp in mid against ranged champs ahaha
Why not ignite m8
You can take ignite its good, i just don't take ignite in every matchup
Ignite isn’t that good of a summoner on a carry past 15 minutes. It really falls off. It’s almost always better to run Tp,or something else that will stay useful.