Mario 64 & Wave Race 64 Shindou | How the West was Worse [SSFF]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2024
- The Shindou versions of Super Mario 64 and Wave Race 64 are Japan-only revisions to two of Nintendo’s most popular N64 games. We take a look into their history, differences, and what that actually means for the rest of the world. Nintendo gonna make that Shindough!
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Big shout out to all my dolphin buddies for watching and making this video possible!
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So long, and thanks for all the fish!
I want your shirt. Where do I get it? @derek
No its not surprising the world doesn't revolve around Europe or north America and not sure if you noticed plenty of Nintendo games have japanese in jokes and jokes to previous japanese release only game your just being privileged lmfao. (Privileged was a joke just incase somone doesn't realise XD but if you need to be told that you're better off not online tbh)
Can you look at the First Sonic game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The BLJ was patched.”
/cries in SimpleFlips
Shout out to SimpleFlips
- No BLJ means no GBJ
*cries in Piplup Guy*
Críes in cheese05, puncayssun, and the thousands of other Mario 64 speedruners...
Shoutouts to Simpleflips
SimpleFLOPS
"We'd like to thank N64th street for letting us borrow their PRISTINE boxed copies of these games." Also 6:08. 😂
My thoughts exactly! LOL
“...for letting us borrow their PRISTINE boxed copies!” **smashes boxes together**
Always love Derek's dorky enthusiasm. It keeps me coming back. DOLPHIN BUDDIES. It's what the world needs now.
“SO LONG, GAY BOSWER!”
Wish I wasn’t in public while watching this with headphones, cuz everyone looked at me when I started laughing like a maniac!
Worth it.
That's not what it says anyway lol.
@@ninja_tony duh
Wave Race 64 has such an amazing soundtrack! N64 really blew 12-year-old me away at launch, we played Wave Race & Mario so much
Could we potentially see an iQue video?
The HD Rumble for the Switch version of Tumbleseed is amazing. It feels like the seed is rolling around inside the Switch.
What if Totaka's Song is actually hidden in Shindou Wave Race, but is played by the Rumble Pak's vibrations?
Also, shout out to that quality pun in the description.
Sadly this isn't HD rumble, so it can't play music
"Played by the rumble pak's vibrations"
*VRRRT VRRVRRVRRT VRRT VRRRT VRRT VRRT VRRT*
I tried.
@@otaking3582 Did you ever hear the song The Lumberjack by Jackyl? Anything can play music, even chainsaws.
Thank you for doing a good, comprehensive video on these.
Most go for clickbait titles and have no actual substance on the video.
*Me living in Europe and wondering why I never liked Waverace 64*
Derek: At least it's not as bad as the PAL version
Me: Ooooooooohhhh
As a Wave Race 64 speedrunner, I can say there is likely some small remastering done to the overall feel and play of the Shindou version of the game that makes it play better than the original 1.0 JP and US versions. All of the top IL players use the Shindou version and it is the best version for RTA as you pointed out the load time differences in your video. I appreciate the spotlight on these two awesome games and the very well made video SSFF :)
So basically your saying Waverace 64 Shindou, is the better version between the two, and Mario 64 Shindou, is worse mainly for speedrunners so all round being worse overall despite the rumbling helping you not get cramped up which would help speedrunning ironically.
"It just assaults you with vibration"
So that's what the middle hand grip is ment to be 🤣
The shindou version of wave race seems worth checking out just for the dolphin time trial addition. That's a pretty cool add-on imo.
A year and a half after this video was uploaded, the Shindou version of SM64 is getting rereleased in 3D All Stars. Really interesting that the West is getting the Shindou version this time.
Two different types of people.
Mario 64 team: Screw your fun backwards long jump.
Wave Race team: Did someone say fun? HAVE SOME DOLPHIN FRIENDS.
2:16 - Hey! I have the same scale for selling drugs!
WTF?! Ryoko Hirosue was in a Starfox commercial? Biggest celebrity crush of my entire life.
This video gets far more interesting now that 3D all-Stars has been the first time Shindou Mario 64 is available outside of Japan.
I use an N64 controller with a USB adapter, and I keep the rumble pack inserted even though my adapter does not support the rumble pak because I prefer the additional weight.
I am weird.
Dimensiom I honestly don’t mind the extra weight myself; in fact, because I only put it in for games that support it (which I started doing because of my suspicion that it drained the batteries anyway), it’s kinda jarring when I use an N64 controller without a rumble pak inserted after I used it with it.
I fucking love your N64 coverage. Gotta be the best on TH-cam!
definitely the most slept on console in youtube
You've been on a roll with these video drops! Quality stuff keep it up
"Thanks for letting us borrow your pristine boxed copies"
*slams the boxes together*
Lolol super good video regardless
Just wanted to say that your content is fantastic and you guys deserve WAY more subscribers than you currently have. SSFF has some of the most entertaining gaming content on all of TH-cam and I wish you guys the best.
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See if Segata Sanshiro renamed himself to "The Rumble Boy" and put out some J-Pop hits I bet SEGA would still be making consoles. Dude could break the laws of physics but had nothing to combat the power of teen idol marketing.
i'm going through a hard time and using your videos to fall asleep. don't worry, i rewatch many during the day and catch what i think is interesting. thank you, this kind of thing keeps me going.
Stay powerful!
And isn't Super Mario 64 on the 3D AllStars-version a port of the Shindou-version? In that case, I would say we got some piece of history here
Great work! I’m happy to see such intense research go into topics you and others find fascinating!
Dude, yes! It is great to hear you talk about the shindou versions of WaveRace and Mario 64.
Thanks for taking the time to research and produce this video. 🙂👍🏻
Well dang. I still have my original Japanese copy of Mario 64. Kinda weird that it's considered a rare revision.
I never knew I had the Shindou version of Wave Race 64. The rumble was pretty cool in that game.
OK, im gonna need a link to that Mii Channel remix
me too
me too
Oh, hi!
*I* care about HD rumble! How many other controllers are able to play Kirby music without having built-in speakers?!
honestly that's the best part of hd rumble 1 2 switch can go suck my ass
@GreyZX 1) How?
2) Since when?
3) Who the hell uses a Steam controller?
@@otaking3582 a friend of mine actually bought one when it was on sale specifically because of the linear actuator rumble after experiencing it in their Apple Watch, so I guess they're officially an HD rumble enthusiast (to be clear I super love HD rumble too, but I don't have anything else that uses it, let alone a steam controller)
My man, you are killing it lately. Great job!
I really love HD rumble the subtle vibrations do wonders personally
I had no idea the shindou versions were a thing! I love how your videos are made in a really entertaining and informative way, like I feel like if there was a college course on video games they would play this. I always walk out feeling like I learned something!
Another fun fact: the rumble pack can be modded to be battery-less just by relocating a single resistor. It cuts the weight by a good bit.
Technically, the Dual Analog Controller on PlayStation came first, and was released days before Star Fox 64 and the rumble pack. The Japanese models of the Dual Analog Controller had a built in vibration function, and Tobal 2 was the first PS game with analog and vibration support.
I've always appreciated this channel for taking in-depth looks into things like this when most just treat it as a foot note.
Also: I want an episode on *I Am A Teacher: Super Mario Sweater.** a Famicom Disk System game that is a sewing simulator. Real thing.
Another awesome video, I'm glad I found this channel last year!
Just found your channel and going through all your punching weight vids. They're so good!
Glad to see I'm not the only fan of the very 90s Wave Race 64 soundtrack! I love the synth piano use in the soundtrack.
I literally just ordered these version like a couple days ago xD Can't wait to learn about the purchases I just ordered! :D Great video!
I don't see how removing the backwards long jump makes it a worse version, its a bug. Sure for speedrunners, but they don't care about the best overall product, just whether its exploitable and has fast loading/text speeds.
Cough cough melee fans
Removing options would be the point of contention.
@@Lucrei. It was an untintended option that Nintendo somewhat didn't want, since the 3rd revision patched it out
@@luigifan4585 I understand that, I'm just saying that would be the point of contention for those who disagree with it being removed
It's just less fun, Mario 64's glitches of course unintended were some of the most enjoyable parts of the game to be honest
Best breakdown of these games I've seen.
As for what to cover next? How about a Konami topic for the 50th anniversary?
1:12 i like the fact that how your right hand moves in sync when mario in the background spins
Addendum: now we all have to put up with Shindou worldwide on the limited time 30th anniversary collection 😭😭😭
Wave Race was my first game I got with my N64. Love that game! Dolphin Park is still my ringtone on my phone.
Wave Race 64 has an absolutely legendary soundtrack! Such a great game!
Thanks for showing the Shindou versions some love!
The top wave race 64 RTA, championship mode, speedrunners use the Shindou version because of those faster loading times.
I think we're now getting the Shindou version of Mario 64 via Super Mario 3D All-Stars!
We finally get to play the Shindou version of the game in 3D Allstars Collection. There is proof that it is this version because the in trailer Mario says bye bye.
I think you mean Bye Bi.
I get the feeling Derek is going through a bit of N64 nostalgia. I seriously feel like the N64 gets an inordinate amount of coverage lately.
Ironically Mario 64 and Wave Race were my first two N64 games... with Wave Race being my actual first and still my favorite N64 game.
That's not ironic, that's coincidental.
Good stuff as always! Can’t wait to see some more spooky games tho.
Thanks for this vid. I'd never heard of this until now.
My first Rumble Pak was actually a Tremor Pak Plus it had a memory card slot and Rumble feature at the same time you just flipped the switch.
took me a while to come back, but glad to see unique videos. i've seen pretty much everything in terms of gaming facts, now to see anything original is interesting. thanks HVGN
Thanks for teaching everyone about the beautiful rumble re-releases of these n64 classics!!!
While Shindou's legacy in Mario 64 speedrunning is dead it lives on in the modern Wave Race 64 speedrunning community, the Shindou version is the fastest legal version for championship speedruns and also the most popular in the time trial community due to the ghost and improved handling of console slowdown/shorter load times.
4:19 - I'm about 95% sure I've seen them on some Japanese auction sites before, I might have a picture saved somewhere.
I cant agree more i feel like the sound track to waverace64 is probably one of the best video game soundtracks ever
Just found this channel. I'm really enjoying it!
Amazing video like always!
2020: took them a while but they finally gave us the Shindou Version in the Mario 3d all stars collection with rumble included.
Could revisit this with All-Stars. I'm pretty sure SM64 is the Shindou version in the states now too.
Glad to see someone preaching the good word of Wave Race 64's OST.
Also I dunno if it's due to the weird rip on TH-cam, but is the title theme a touch slower in the Shindou version?
this is like uncovering deep hidden memories in my brain. I totally remember when rumbling was a really big deal; I remember a couple rich kids refusing to play with us because we didnt have rumble PS1 controllers lol
It might be interesting to see a video about n64 games with irregularly colored carts. Like the Majora's Mask gold cart or somesuch. I dunno.
Thanks for the Birthday present!
Getting some serious "Fantastic Plastic Machine" vibes from that "Mii Plaza" remix in this video!
Have you considered doing a throw-back video as the Happy Video Game Nerd?
I mean, the last time I watched you, you reviewed Splatterhouse (2010).
I'm so proud to see where you are today. After all these years.
Guess they've corrected the international canonicity of the Shindou SM64 with 3D All Stars.
2:07 this background music is TOO GOOD
ok you called it, I want a video about the NDS Rumble Pak, and I want it NOW
Wow neat!! Never knew about these versions!
Fun fact: the PlayStation dual analogue controller, which in Japan did feature rumble, was released two days before the N64 rumble pak.
Maybe you should cover the select games that have received the largest amount of ports? With some focus given to certain re releases that added more content or graphics & gameplay improvements. Among the most ported games I can think of are Sonic 1, Resi4, Cave Story, Street Fighter 2, etc.
Sonic 1 AND Sonic 2.
A review of amazing WhiteHead versions would be great.
Doing all this research on SM64 Shindou because it's coming to Switch. I feel like I'm getting a new puppy.
Hey now, Japan had Saikyō Habu Shōgi as a launch title too.
You can mod the rumble pak so it can vibrate without the batteries.
Video guides are available on TH-cam.
Highly recommended mod, that is quite simple to do.
Thanks for another awesome video! How about a video about Secret of Evermore? It's made by SquareSoft, but has never been released in japan and is in my opinion very underrated. You could even extend it to other RPGs that haven't been released in japan.
Just got Mario 3D all stars. Mario’s voice in 64 was driving me crazy! Now it makes sense knowing it’s the shindou version ! So weird they did this kinda wish they just released the American version but oh well
Would love to see a video covering the release and reception and eventual retirement of the Dreamcast! My fave system despite its flaws! Love your vids! 💗
I used the Wavebird that was packed in with my pre-order of Super Mario Sunshine... So I haven't experienced the rumble effects of SMS, yet. You should do an episode on how the Nintendo Wavebird is the controller that made wireless controller communications mainstream.
the n64 DID NOT feel right without the weight of the rumble pak
Awesome video!! I would to see you guys cover some wrestling games we never got in the US.
I just bought a Shindou version of Mario 64 off of Ebay a couple days ago.
There's this game I want you guys to cover, but I fear it might be a rumor.
I think the game in question is Shining Force III for the Saturn, for the simple reason of what someone from Sega said to face of its developer about the cost of manufacturing the disc and the price of the game. That quote needs to be heard to be believed.
Another great vid, Derek! I still think you should do a video on the game "Scurge: Hive". It's a GBA/DS game that needs more love...
I think the Hey You, Pikachu microphone might make for some interesting source materiel if not already covered.
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the rumble pak vibrates with motion
added vibration. nice.
the version of mario64 included in Super mario 3d all stars is based on the shindo version in all regians. this marks the first time that version was given a western release. wave race 64 shindo version wasn't so lucky, though.
What a pleasure, as always
This is a great video. Will you guys be doing the Wii de Asobu/New Play Control games one day?
I had a 3rd party rumble pack that had an extra slot to use both memory card and rumble. Takes the same amount of battery a too. Sure it weighed heavier than the normal rumble pack, but did come with rumble intensity too. (back when the high setting still worked) will vibrate the controller to the point that little me couldn't hold on to it without it my hand going numb due to the vibration.
And JFYI. Yes I did attach another rumble to it and yes it was freaking heavy for a little kid and it did work. Broke the battery cover on the 1st party rumble pack and was ungodly heavy for a little kid to hold it without resting on a table to play after picking it up for a few minutes.
I miss the N64 rumble pak. It's rumble was so absurdly over the top. THAT'S what I like. Goldeneye felt like the controller might fly out of your hands. Subtlety is for suckers. Give me rumble that might put someone's eye out and then scale it back just a hair.
i'd really like to see you discuss the history of the turok games. i know you ait the biggest turok fan, but i know you do great research and content so i'd like to see what you think of the franchise
when you catch your sister playing with your rumble pack 4:03
I fucking love this channel, you guys a have a passion for gaming and its history that is very rare.
Hey SSFF, awesome video man! I had very little idea of how the Rumble Pak was used in the Mario 64 Shindou edition, and I was always interested! But I have a question, where did you get that awesome Smash T shirt? If you know, could you send a link perhaps please?
It was a limited edition shirt at yetee designed by Jaime Ugarte! Not available anymore, but check him out, always making fresh as hell designs
@@StopSkeletonsFromFighting Oh wow! Thank you so much Derek! Much appreciated!
8:33 "China's legendary bootleg" is a weak statement kind of. The bootlegging capabilities of china are incredible to this day, they can imitate any electronic device.