11:05 This bit all but confirms it for me. The reason the player got regular DP is due to them trying to go into crMK-Spin Knuckle string, but all that buffering (from their scripts/cheat?) results in the MK triggering the regular DP, which hit Veggeys forward dash. Whether the MK input is the player or the cheat is impossible to say though. It's not 100% confirmation, but that's enough to convince me.
Something that I noticed just watching their inputs. EXTREMELY clean. Not even a tap or anything when knocked down like you would see when people are going through a quick thought process. Also, no double inputs of a button... Its so obvious...
My favorite cheat is the one that auto DIs back 3F after your DI. Also very easy to detect. 3F is not a reaction, although it's possible they more or less had the same idea around the same time so there's a simple test: Press DI waiting for the round to start and see if the counter DIs comes 3F later. Reactions so godlike the move doesn't even have to come out to react in 3F.
Broski, i fought a Zangief 1900 master player who got like 6/6 perfect parries in a match, he never missed one. It was very sospicious, so i went on his profile and saw that he has the incredible stat of 3.3 perfect parries per match (to compare, Daigo has 0.7). Also his inputs where perfectly timed with my normals, like no mashing and no missed tries. If you wanna check, his SF name is "Crybaby Broski" (which is very sospiciuos too, not joking).
The thing is that can happen for a short burst and is more likely to happen the longer a set goes on and the other player becomes more accustomed to your choices. It's when you can demonstrate something like your big guesses (like EX DP) always paying off that it becomes suspicious. Even pros occasionally have their DPs blocked, cheaters don't.
Players that just won't tech when you shimmy and always techs when you throw consistently in long sets is always sus for me. No one is that lucky with guessing.
@@WoWisdeadtome Also, the difference usually becomes very pronounced when you look closely at replays (like Broski does). Like, it's hard to say that the person in the video was cheating just by watching the games in real time. But when you can see the inputs from their end, you can clearly see the near-inhuman level of consistency, and how they are still applying that inhuman consistency mid-hitstun, for no reason. That's when it becomes obvious. I think the biggest red flag of cheating *is* that incongruence. If all you know is that someone DPs perfectly, there's always the very slight chance that they're just cracked. Not SF, but an example that comes to mind is Dany the GGST player; I think I watched upwards of 5 tournaments with him before I saw someone bait his DP, even though he DPed as much as everyone else in the tournament combined. He was insane. But Dany also mixed people in insane ways, got really nasty reads in neutral, blocked things that would open up almost any other player even at a tournament level-he wasn't just magically good at DPs, he was consistently great at guessing what his opponent would do. The person in the video, by contrast, had all the same DP perfection as Dany, but they would input their perfect DP at absolutely nonsensical moments (in hitstun) and showed no special reading ability except when it came to DPs. Looking at the replays, it's like there're two entirely different players controlling Cammy, one who's totally average, and one with better DPs than Daigo. *That* is when you can be sure of cheating.
I will never understand why people spend their free timing cheating at video games for free. Like bro...if its not fun enough for you to get good, go play something else
It's all to win matches. Like how athletes use performance enhancing drugs or bribing judges and officials. The thrill of winning can be too addictive and they don't care about actually getting good.
people cheat outside of games too, the glory from video games can be very real especially in such a challenging game like sf6 it takes a mountain of effort (and godgiven talent at the highest level) to compete people act tougher than they are, people use synthol, people commit fraud, etc, the gain is there whether monetary or how you are perceived by others both have actual value to drive us humans towards attaining them
Tons of suspicious players on the asia server, especially from China. Most of them are often appearing as "NEW CHALLENGER". You'll encounter ridiculous plays that you rarely ever see in high MR if not at all, and nearly all of them always one-and-done in both loss and win. I remember playing against an Ed player that not only perfect parried ever move including random ones, he also never ever performed a single DP and executed the same patterns of frame inputs. I really hope Capcom updates the online service and is able to identify and suspend suspicious plays and ban cheating players.
Chinese cheaters ruin every game they touch. It is miserable being Asian and wanting to play online games here. Niche games die so quickly while popular games are ruined by losers who cheats
Yeah people gripe about Capcom's anti-mod plans, but it's a necessary evil if we want to eliminate cheaters like this. No one expects to be able to run client-side mods in Valorant. Anti-cheat is expected in literally every other modern competitive genre on PC. We allow the developer to install what amounts to spyware on our computers to preserve the competitive integrity of the game - that's the deal. Of course, the way Capcom goes about deploying their anti-cheat is still valid grounds for criticism. And banning mods for single player only games is kind of just a dick move.
Just out of curiosity I checked the listed Steam profile on that person's CFN and it looked like someone else's burner, they only had one friend added and had a display of rare achievements from different games (surely through legal means). It's not really that useful to determine if the person's cheating, but I remember "International" had a VAC ban on his account already so it could confirm some suspicions at least.
Dont forget, they're doing these (nearly) frame perfect inputs on wifi with inconsistent rollback frames. I've seen high level players drop relatively easy B&B combos on Lan, or League of Legends pros botch plays on lower, perfectly consistent ping. But this dude has a 100% hit rate on every DP, with inputs within margin of error on an inconsistent connection? Nah, man. Dude's hacking hardcore.
They should add statistics of a players hit rate for each individual move, viewable by any player, with that it would be far easier to detect. Basically adding the things we are trying to figure out manually, if they got a crazy high EX DP hit rate then there's something suspicious
Being able to compare it quickly to Tokido, Bonchan, Itazan, Punk, Daigo (not Noah, fuck Noah) would really help narrow down the normal from the suspicious plays.
i faced this cammy 3 times yesterday while i was in diamond 5, he threw all 3 games so i think he was trying to tank his MR and avoid suspicion but im not sure. that would only hold true if legend actually loses much from losing to diamond 5. either way it gave 750pts for free and im master now, taken off a week of grinding for me
If a master plays against a diamond MR isn't affected, only LP. Was it an obvious throw or was he possibly trying to practice his defense without the cheat when his points aren't on the line?
it was a blatant throw he gave me three double perfects. also you guys just pointed out he wasnt losing points so matching a diamond was just a waste of his time i presume. look up cammy cajurimmy v zangief 'Gian' (me) not sure how far back the replays are kept @@WoWisdeadtome
it was a blatant throw he gave me 3 double perfects. as you guys pointed out he wasnt losing points so i presume matching a diamon was just wasting his time grinding that fake ass legend status 🤣🤣@@WoWisdeadtome look up cammy CaJurimmy vs zangief Gian (my id) the replays might still be there
What sucks is that you can enter a match and feel like you’re really good, and then against one of these kind of guys and be like “do I just suck? Are they making all the reads because I’m very readable? Am I so easily whiff punished?” Makes me question that past few matches I’ve had in battlehub whether I’m facing a person with hax or not.
When I get one of these guys I just one-and-done and put it down to "yep that felt like a cheater" Might be right, probably wrong and its a master working on a new character, but it gets me in to the next match with a cooler head.
13:20 as well. Going from forward too Down back with literally 0 frames in between is more or less impossible even on hitbox. You will have at least 1 frame in between if you are a human. She has a lot of those inputs. Also going from Down back into forward with 0 frames in between. Telltale sign of auto block or something along those lines.
@@bluedistortions wired connection, ethernet cables bruv. You've seen them If u have super fast 6ghz wifi it might not be an issue but not many ppl have that
@@bluedistortions Compared to an Ethernet cable? You can be right next to your router and the consistency of your WiFi can fluctuate in so many things. You going get randomly high ping by a few MS or drop a packet and because of how rollback works that is when you'll see the teleporting and having it feel off. A wired connection is preferable in fighting games all things considered the game can use rollback much better because it's getting consistent ping and generally 0 spikes and packet loss. People still use WiFi, but when you play a fighting game, a lot of people aren't gonna wanna play you if you use it because it objectively makes the game worse
@6:00 @12:50 Those EX DPs were not done in strange spots what.... Those EX DPs beat strike throw guesses after frame advantage. Way higher success rate after a blocked light into 50/50 tick throw/strike. I do those all the time. The perfect DPs are evidence of macro use though, for sure.
Been playing someone who I used to beat alot, but recently he's up his game with excellent perfect parry, and can barely shimmy him for whiff punish or throws, he will barely ever whiff a throw and throw break perfect during shimmy situation. Then I noticed the replay, ex special came out to punish my move, and the input was not registered in the replay, and it happened twice. Hmm... 🤔
Despite being a pc player myself im at the point where players on PC who frame 1 DI against a non cancellable normal in neutral are sus as hell to me. Once or twice is fair, but every time, even in cases where its the first time I've used the move all game in round 3. Is crazy
Been running into Ryus who perfectly punish every move I do before the start up animations it's fucking weird like no can call out every single move you do before you even start the animation. Might sound like a skill issue but these players were shit at everything else so I don't know about but goddamn it's just really fucking weird.
at the VERY least, this person is using a DP macro, which would explain how the inputs are all frame perfect, but considering the DP was never blocked, it had to be a script
Every fighting game needs an in-game purgatory for all cheaters and rage quitters. They only get to play each other for a week. They continue after release. It becomes a month in the bin. And so on.
At least in SF6, rage quitters get a yellow card and have to play each other for a month or something, and the red means no more ranked? I just love that I only see one or two salty rage quits in a week or two of playing ranked with this game. T8 and that MK crapfest need it. This method even got that streamer LTG to leave SF6, because he always rage quits and he can't do it here.
When a rival plays VERY aggresive like "automatic mode" with almost "no thinking" no defensive no retreat is a "sign" or cheating Not even the super mega gods of this game play like this cammy, she is basically reading all your moves and getting a LOT of punish counters, this game is INFESTED by cheaters on master and legend i play a lot daily, i have 1850 MR and a LOT of people are cheating First Wave of cheaters were doing 1 frame DP, 1 frame super moves and 1 frame link combos (the HARDEST combo types) some of them were banned but a new wave of fresh accounts with little hours are destroying lobbies now they are just reading your inputs, they get some damage or lose a round to "hide cheats" but in the end they always win the match
No one at a high level would dash around that confidently. It's a commitment that can be punished pretty easily. You would only play like that if you were confident that your hand was being guided by a bot
3frame SRKs are very practical on Hitbox...but not with 323 motion, only 623. That's really awkward to hit perfectly in 3 frames AND time it with the attack press.
@@timesthebear lifting and repressing is extremely hard to do in 1 frame. the only realistic way is to drum it with 2 fingers where you tap the edge of the button and leave 1 frame before your other finger comes down. To do this on both sides you have to angle your hand pretty harshly too.
@@Droptima1 that's not exactly true. Take the tip of your finger and lightly feather the edge of a button. You'll be able to get a single frame in just a few tries and with practice it's fairly easy
@@timesthebear the press yes (that's what im describing)...the neutral 1 frame is the hard part. You need to use a 2nd finger to be immediately in position to press down right as the first finger leaves the button to be fast enough and consistent. Obv it's possible to do a 1 frame press/depress/press but it's stupidly hard to make consistent. Optimal Srks are done by: Hold [6], plink [4]+[2], slip off 4 + attack. This is how 3 frames should be done.
The thing that makes me think they're botting is how they don't press buttons during cutscenes, before rounds or just ever when things are idle. No stick spinning or button tapping. Wack.
The EX DP after blocking 1 normal is something I do a lot because I fucking HATE delay options that both block EX DP while still getting OKI safely. I remember I learner the delay grab tech on OKI I learned in Street Fighter V that basically made it safe to go for a grab, but also giving me a max combo punish if they EX DP... I hate it, but I used it because it worked, but I would have deleted that option. I hate Delay tech/OS and a bunch of other things. I would like to see more commitment in fighting games.
I have 100% played against an auto throw tech and auto jump command grab modern kim player in master. Want to know the saddest part? I 2-0’ed them twice with Gief both times. I have the replays recorded and everything
Do pros ever reach the level where the can reliably do frame perfect dp inputs? A dp is always three inputs regardless of method, and doing those 3 inputs on three consecutive frames perfectly every time seems like cheating to me inherently, though i don't know what the consistency rate of genuine pros is. My dp's are 8 frames on average, 6 at best.
On hitbox with practice it's not too difficult. The suspicious part here is not only the extremely fast DP input, but more importantly the timing and places they're going for it.
the reason u dont see a ton of people cheating in 6 is because the cheat is being sold for $400 so of course not many people are willing to do that especially with the risk of getting scammed for something that might not even work or exist
ill be honest this makes not want to get the game now i was super excited for akuma but if players resort to cheats i think that will kill my joy for real smh.
here is the simple way to see if its a bot, all inputs stop the second the character cant act it was the same with the last guy, you dont even need to look at anything else.
This isn't a good method, IMO. The cheater in the video isn't just a bot, it's a human being playing *with a program* that occasionally takes charge and overrides their inputs to do a specific thing. So the human will still do things like inputting when they can't move. Also, as we can see, computer programs don't always recognize when they can't do something; the script tries to input three DPs during hitstun because it was programmed to react to button presses, not the actual situation as we'd perceive it.
They need to ban the Hardware: then you will see people having their costly PC's no longer being able to play SF6 online. Also I want to see the platform people are playing on or even select the platfom I want to crossplay with. Not every PC player is a cheater but every cheater is a PC player.
Broski and Sajam are bound to team up and take on a Detective case together
Elementary, my dear Sajam
That might be my favorite piece of content ever
Another cheater using Cammy?
Aren’t they the same person?
Dude is dashing around like it's season 1 SFV
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why shouldn't he dash?
@@mrosskne nothing wrong with dashing, it was just kinda funny in the replay
You know there's something wrong when a guy won't block a safe jump but will EX DP unreactable moves on reaction
"on reaction"
Maybe he is good@@squidee
@@Summer-us5qlnot that good, thats COMPUTER level precise
11:05 This bit all but confirms it for me. The reason the player got regular DP is due to them trying to go into crMK-Spin Knuckle string, but all that buffering (from their scripts/cheat?) results in the MK triggering the regular DP, which hit Veggeys forward dash. Whether the MK input is the player or the cheat is impossible to say though.
It's not 100% confirmation, but that's enough to convince me.
Something that I noticed just watching their inputs. EXTREMELY clean. Not even a tap or anything when knocked down like you would see when people are going through a quick thought process. Also, no double inputs of a button... Its so obvious...
Exactly when waking up dp MOST not all people mash that shit
Excellent work once again, detective. May the CapCops sentence him to 5 years of DNF Duel
A "Cruel Fate" worse than death.
No take him to Hokuto no Ken
Ahahahahaha
Damn, that's some medieval punishment
DNF duel is actually fun though.
My favorite cheat is the one that auto DIs back 3F after your DI. Also very easy to detect.
3F is not a reaction, although it's possible they more or less had the same idea around the same time so there's a simple test:
Press DI waiting for the round to start and see if the counter DIs comes 3F later. Reactions so godlike the move doesn't even have to come out to react in 3F.
this is only seen on cammy.. other characters have a more gimmick reading.. sometimes i do think capcom add these beef up CPU..
My favorite way to catch auto-DI is to jump and hit DI on the way up, if the input is consistent, you caught them red handed, AND can punish them!
Please buy one of those floppy hats that sherlock holmes wore and put it on during your perilous investigation :^)
They are called deerstalkers. (the hat)
Broski, i fought a Zangief 1900 master player who got like 6/6 perfect parries in a match, he never missed one. It was very sospicious, so i went on his profile and saw that he has the incredible stat of 3.3 perfect parries per match (to compare, Daigo has 0.7). Also his inputs where perfectly timed with my normals, like no mashing and no missed tries. If you wanna check, his SF name is "Crybaby Broski" (which is very sospiciuos too, not joking).
This series has gotten me on-edge now whenever I fight someone making a lot of good reads and guesses in a row.
The thing is that can happen for a short burst and is more likely to happen the longer a set goes on and the other player becomes more accustomed to your choices. It's when you can demonstrate something like your big guesses (like EX DP) always paying off that it becomes suspicious. Even pros occasionally have their DPs blocked, cheaters don't.
@@WoWisdeadtome You said it very well.
Players that just won't tech when you shimmy and always techs when you throw consistently in long sets is always sus for me. No one is that lucky with guessing.
@@WoWisdeadtome Also, the difference usually becomes very pronounced when you look closely at replays (like Broski does). Like, it's hard to say that the person in the video was cheating just by watching the games in real time. But when you can see the inputs from their end, you can clearly see the near-inhuman level of consistency, and how they are still applying that inhuman consistency mid-hitstun, for no reason. That's when it becomes obvious.
I think the biggest red flag of cheating *is* that incongruence. If all you know is that someone DPs perfectly, there's always the very slight chance that they're just cracked. Not SF, but an example that comes to mind is Dany the GGST player; I think I watched upwards of 5 tournaments with him before I saw someone bait his DP, even though he DPed as much as everyone else in the tournament combined. He was insane. But Dany also mixed people in insane ways, got really nasty reads in neutral, blocked things that would open up almost any other player even at a tournament level-he wasn't just magically good at DPs, he was consistently great at guessing what his opponent would do. The person in the video, by contrast, had all the same DP perfection as Dany, but they would input their perfect DP at absolutely nonsensical moments (in hitstun) and showed no special reading ability except when it came to DPs. Looking at the replays, it's like there're two entirely different players controlling Cammy, one who's totally average, and one with better DPs than Daigo. *That* is when you can be sure of cheating.
I will never understand why people spend their free timing cheating at video games for free. Like bro...if its not fun enough for you to get good, go play something else
But enough about modern 😂😂😂😂😂
I guess for them normal reasoning wont work as Iwoul imagine they prob have some personality disorders
The sad part is, it’s not even free, they do this at a loss
It's all to win matches. Like how athletes use performance enhancing drugs or bribing judges and officials. The thrill of winning can be too addictive and they don't care about actually getting good.
people cheat outside of games too, the glory from video games can be very real especially in such a challenging game like sf6 it takes a mountain of effort (and godgiven talent at the highest level) to compete
people act tougher than they are, people use synthol, people commit fraud, etc, the gain is there whether monetary or how you are perceived by others both have actual value to drive us humans towards attaining them
Tons of suspicious players on the asia server, especially from China. Most of them are often appearing as "NEW CHALLENGER". You'll encounter ridiculous plays that you rarely ever see in high MR if not at all, and nearly all of them always one-and-done in both loss and win. I remember playing against an Ed player that not only perfect parried ever move including random ones, he also never ever performed a single DP and executed the same patterns of frame inputs. I really hope Capcom updates the online service and is able to identify and suspend suspicious plays and ban cheating players.
Chinese cheaters ruin every game they touch. It is miserable being Asian and wanting to play online games here. Niche games die so quickly while popular games are ruined by losers who cheats
sadly china has created a culture where cheating is seen as a morally fine thing to do
When they ban titty mods the cheaters will also get hit
Yeah people gripe about Capcom's anti-mod plans, but it's a necessary evil if we want to eliminate cheaters like this.
No one expects to be able to run client-side mods in Valorant. Anti-cheat is expected in literally every other modern competitive genre on PC. We allow the developer to install what amounts to spyware on our computers to preserve the competitive integrity of the game - that's the deal.
Of course, the way Capcom goes about deploying their anti-cheat is still valid grounds for criticism. And banning mods for single player only games is kind of just a dick move.
I am from Asia and I hate playing multiplayers games here. The Chinese comes and ruin every game they touch, like a swarm of locusts.
The buildup to the sequence at 11:45 made it absolutely hilarious. I love these videos so much
You can feel it when you play them.....uncanny
Don't you mean... Uncammy?
Not a single dive kick and he’s in master
No anti airs either
Broski making Recess references? He really does like watching foreign anime
Just out of curiosity I checked the listed Steam profile on that person's CFN and it looked like someone else's burner, they only had one friend added and had a display of rare achievements from different games (surely through legal means). It's not really that useful to determine if the person's cheating, but I remember "International" had a VAC ban on his account already so it could confirm some suspicions at least.
5:18 - “夜雨声烦烦不烦: isn’t the sound of rain at night pretty annoying?”
I love the sound of rain at night, it's very calming
Proof that guy isn't from Earth. Who doesn't like the sound of rain at night?
bro is a cheater *AND* has terrible opinions??
That Cammy is in my main CFN Club :( I thought i avoided weirdos by not joining the coomer clubs (Please let my join Capybara)
"CaJurimmy" is a catchy sounding name tho.
Dont forget, they're doing these (nearly) frame perfect inputs on wifi with inconsistent rollback frames. I've seen high level players drop relatively easy B&B combos on Lan, or League of Legends pros botch plays on lower, perfectly consistent ping. But this dude has a 100% hit rate on every DP, with inputs within margin of error on an inconsistent connection?
Nah, man. Dude's hacking hardcore.
I see... they're a true deity of wifi... they've fused their very soul with the rollback frames
They should add statistics of a players hit rate for each individual move, viewable by any player, with that it would be far easier to detect.
Basically adding the things we are trying to figure out manually, if they got a crazy high EX DP hit rate then there's something suspicious
Being able to compare it quickly to Tokido, Bonchan, Itazan, Punk, Daigo (not Noah, fuck Noah) would really help narrow down the normal from the suspicious plays.
*And* it could be a fun way to show off your skills to people. Proud of your good reads? Show people the number!
i faced this cammy 3 times yesterday while i was in diamond 5, he threw all 3 games so i think he was trying to tank his MR and avoid suspicion but im not sure. that would only hold true if legend actually loses much from losing to diamond 5. either way it gave 750pts for free and im master now, taken off a week of grinding for me
I don't believe you can lose MR fighting a diamond player. It has to be a master league match.
You don't lose MR on a loss against someone not in Master. However I don't know how Legend status work though
If a master plays against a diamond MR isn't affected, only LP.
Was it an obvious throw or was he possibly trying to practice his defense without the cheat when his points aren't on the line?
it was a blatant throw he gave me three double perfects. also you guys just pointed out he wasnt losing points so matching a diamond was just a waste of his time i presume. look up cammy cajurimmy v zangief 'Gian' (me) not sure how far back the replays are kept
@@WoWisdeadtome
it was a blatant throw he gave me 3 double perfects. as you guys pointed out he wasnt losing points so i presume matching a diamon was just wasting his time grinding that fake ass legend status 🤣🤣@@WoWisdeadtome look up cammy CaJurimmy vs zangief Gian (my id) the replays might still be there
You got the like for being a super sleuth and the Randal reference 😂
There was a hella suspicious Aki player last week or so. No way he was that good without cheats, playing an obviously low tier character.
I think I saw that guy too.
He almost took a FT5 off Mena in tournament, right?
@@HWHY😂😂😂
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cant wait for another episode of broski's detective adventure
What sucks is that you can enter a match and feel like you’re really good, and then against one of these kind of guys and be like “do I just suck? Are they making all the reads because I’m very readable? Am I so easily whiff punished?”
Makes me question that past few matches I’ve had in battlehub whether I’m facing a person with hax or not.
When I get one of these guys I just one-and-done and put it down to "yep that felt like a cheater"
Might be right, probably wrong and its a master working on a new character, but it gets me in to the next match with a cooler head.
@@lostree1981 Nothing wrong with managing your mental
13:20 as well. Going from forward too Down back with literally 0 frames in between is more or less impossible even on hitbox. You will have at least 1 frame in between if you are a human. She has a lot of those inputs. Also going from Down back into forward with 0 frames in between. Telltale sign of auto block or something along those lines.
Ran into a Guile that had Dynamic controls with no charges and instant DIs. Thought he was just really good till I saw the Blue D in the corner
You cant use Dynamic controls on ranked or casual matchmaking
@@devinbuerger5832you can with cheats
@@devinbuerger5832 Yeah if someone has dynamic that's an instant sign they're cheating
@@devinbuerger5832 yeah I know, dude was cheating haha
@@beam5655 i had no idea you could cheat that in
Bruhhh I played this guy yesterday when he was on Juri and was shook, I had no idea he was cheating
There's no conclusive evidence, it's still just a hunch
@@JadeJackal4Alr stevie wonder
@@yurushi55 nice one sheep guy, but just because your favorite TH-camr says something it isn't gospel
@@JadeJackal4 wow I never thought about it like that.
@@JadeJackal4did you watch the same video, did he just say it without proof
The sf6 version of Hydegackt
"You're...........................................................................................................finished!"
This series is so fun to watch lol
Huge fan of the occasional Detective Broski videos
Got to say I appreciate the patience before doing accusations, love the well thought out opinions!
could someone explain why being on wifi is a sign? I'm new and don't understand.
Yea i'm confused about this myself I play on my gaming laptop using WiFi does that make me a cheater? Lol
No its a seperate issue entirely. Latency and game smoothness, in a genre like fighting games focused on acuracy and reactions it can be unplayable
@@neon-lakecompared to what? Do people not use WiFi anymore? What do people use?
@@bluedistortions wired connection, ethernet cables bruv. You've seen them
If u have super fast 6ghz wifi it might not be an issue but not many ppl have that
@@bluedistortions Compared to an Ethernet cable? You can be right next to your router and the consistency of your WiFi can fluctuate in so many things. You going get randomly high ping by a few MS or drop a packet and because of how rollback works that is when you'll see the teleporting and having it feel off. A wired connection is preferable in fighting games all things considered the game can use rollback much better because it's getting consistent ping and generally 0 spikes and packet loss.
People still use WiFi, but when you play a fighting game, a lot of people aren't gonna wanna play you if you use it because it objectively makes the game worse
Broski is awesome! So, what if two cheaters get matched up against one another and they are both playing on WiiFi? Hahaha!
Imagine they get stuck in an infinite loop of their scripts reacting to each other
Detective Broski back at it
This is a much bigger issue than this it's a plague in sf6
Also never anti air DP’d. If he’s “so good” you’d think he’d be able to do that
Why do the cheaters use cammy and deejay but mostly cammy? If they wanted to win they could just use JP, Luke or Ken.
Same with Juri, can't play their braindead coomer characters without cheats apparently
For booty and style. Not necessarily in that order.
there no way she can od dp so fast with those frame for modern control is normally fine but classic is pretty sus for her
My favorite true crime show is Detective Broski!
Broski the detective should be a separate series
@6:00
@12:50
Those EX DPs were not done in strange spots what....
Those EX DPs beat strike throw guesses after frame advantage. Way higher success rate after a blocked light into 50/50 tick throw/strike.
I do those all the time.
The perfect DPs are evidence of macro use though, for sure.
Seems a cheater indeed. The one that got me weird was the perfect parry on whip.
I don't know. When I'm put into the corner or when I'm low health, my inputs also get really suspicious Dx
Been playing someone who I used to beat alot, but recently he's up his game with excellent perfect parry, and can barely shimmy him for whiff punish or throws, he will barely ever whiff a throw and throw break perfect during shimmy situation. Then I noticed the replay, ex special came out to punish my move, and the input was not registered in the replay, and it happened twice. Hmm... 🤔
I’ll get DP’s mid combo with cammy when my opponent drops or has a small gap in a combo…except I’ll be spamming it 😂
"The cheating I can handle, but the Wi-Fi..." 😂
Also, one can change one's name for free in this game. I do it all the time.
Whiff punishing jabs is wild
Despite being a pc player myself im at the point where players on PC who frame 1 DI against a non cancellable normal in neutral are sus as hell to me. Once or twice is fair, but every time, even in cases where its the first time I've used the move all game in round 3. Is crazy
So Capcom don't care if these animals cheat? Good to know.
whew, glad you haven't found me and called me out yet
It's the DP input on 3 consecutive frames for me🤪
Someone get on recording the Detective Broski theme song plz
Been running into Ryus who perfectly punish every move I do before the start up animations it's fucking weird like no can call out every single move you do before you even start the animation.
Might sound like a skill issue but these players were shit at everything else so I don't know about but goddamn it's just really fucking weird.
here before the self destruct
report those cheaters using tools!
Why does Cami sound like she's saying flordalalor for her moves?
Cant believe this mf got to legend
Nah. This guy just doesn't like to block in plus situations.
Also you were not checking his multiple dashes....
What's wrong with playing on wifi? How else am I supposed to play it?
at the VERY least, this person is using a DP macro, which would explain how the inputs are all frame perfect, but considering the DP was never blocked, it had to be a script
Every fighting game needs an in-game purgatory for all cheaters and rage quitters. They only get to play each other for a week. They continue after release. It becomes a month in the bin. And so on.
At least in SF6, rage quitters get a yellow card and have to play each other for a month or something, and the red means no more ranked? I just love that I only see one or two salty rage quits in a week or two of playing ranked with this game. T8 and that MK crapfest need it.
This method even got that streamer LTG to leave SF6, because he always rage quits and he can't do it here.
When a rival plays VERY aggresive like "automatic mode" with almost "no thinking" no defensive no retreat is a "sign" or cheating
Not even the super mega gods of this game play like this cammy, she is basically reading all your moves and getting a LOT of punish counters, this game is INFESTED by cheaters on master and legend
i play a lot daily, i have 1850 MR and a LOT of people are cheating
First Wave of cheaters were doing 1 frame DP, 1 frame super moves and 1 frame link combos (the HARDEST combo types) some of them were banned but a new wave of fresh accounts with little hours are destroying lobbies
now they are just reading your inputs, they get some damage or lose a round to "hide cheats" but in the end they always win the match
Nah,he isn't cheating.
That's just Cammy!
Bro and on the last match the username is the Chinese username and not "cajurimmy". SUUUUUPER sussed out.
can someone explain why the dashing is suspicious?
No one at a high level would dash around that confidently. It's a commitment that can be punished pretty easily. You would only play like that if you were confident that your hand was being guided by a bot
3frame SRKs are very practical on Hitbox...but not with 323 motion, only 623. That's really awkward to hit perfectly in 3 frames AND time it with the attack press.
It might be possible ... Hold down and forward then tap up for a single frame. I doubt I could do it but maybe .....
@@timesthebear lifting and repressing is extremely hard to do in 1 frame. the only realistic way is to drum it with 2 fingers where you tap the edge of the button and leave 1 frame before your other finger comes down. To do this on both sides you have to angle your hand pretty harshly too.
@@Droptima1 that's not exactly true. Take the tip of your finger and lightly feather the edge of a button. You'll be able to get a single frame in just a few tries and with practice it's fairly easy
@@timesthebear the press yes (that's what im describing)...the neutral 1 frame is the hard part. You need to use a 2nd finger to be immediately in position to press down right as the first finger leaves the button to be fast enough and consistent. Obv it's possible to do a 1 frame press/depress/press but it's stupidly hard to make consistent.
Optimal Srks are done by:
Hold [6], plink [4]+[2], slip off 4 + attack.
This is how 3 frames should be done.
@@Droptima1 I'm glad Zangief who has nothing like this lol
The thing that makes me think they're botting is how they don't press buttons during cutscenes, before rounds or just ever when things are idle. No stick spinning or button tapping. Wack.
Of course it's a Cammy player that's all I'm gonna say
Is there a way to report those cheaters?
Yo your AKi is legit
Please someone explain to me what wi-fi got to do with cheating?
(Don‘t answer about the connection, it seemed to me like there was more to it)
It has nothing to do with cheating. He's making a joke about wifi connection
@@neon-lake You could argue that, since wifi introduces inconsistency, it makes the hyper-precise, perfectly consistent inputs more suspicious
who wins when two modifiers are on?
It would be pretty easy to hire someone to look at replays like this and Ban users who get flagged.
*This is the most cheatery cheater who ever cheated.*
-Broski, paraphrased
The EX DP after blocking 1 normal is something I do a lot because I fucking HATE delay options that both block EX DP while still getting OKI safely. I remember I learner the delay grab tech on OKI I learned in Street Fighter V that basically made it safe to go for a grab, but also giving me a max combo punish if they EX DP... I hate it, but I used it because it worked, but I would have deleted that option. I hate Delay tech/OS and a bunch of other things. I would like to see more commitment in fighting games.
no this was me i'm just cracked. i was playing with my mind waves.
based on this investigation and my 1 in 10 win lose ratio i believe 90% of players are cheating
I have 100% played against an auto throw tech and auto jump command grab modern kim player in master. Want to know the saddest part? I 2-0’ed them twice with Gief both times. I have the replays recorded and everything
Postem
Do pros ever reach the level where the can reliably do frame perfect dp inputs? A dp is always three inputs regardless of method, and doing those 3 inputs on three consecutive frames perfectly every time seems like cheating to me inherently, though i don't know what the consistency rate of genuine pros is. My dp's are 8 frames on average, 6 at best.
On hitbox with practice it's not too difficult. The suspicious part here is not only the extremely fast DP input, but more importantly the timing and places they're going for it.
The online scene has nothing but cheaters it doesn't matter what game
100% does, some games have very robust anticheats
Broski and Sajam should be the start of an overwatch on players climbing too fast or having more than 70% one and done matches.
Why those metrics when there're clear things in the video that more conclusively prove cheating
the reason u dont see a ton of people cheating in 6 is because the cheat is being sold for $400 so of course not many people are willing to do that especially with the risk of getting scammed for something that might not even work or exist
ill be honest this makes not want to get the game now i was super excited for akuma but if players resort to cheats i think that will kill my joy for real smh.
here is the simple way to see if its a bot, all inputs stop the second the character cant act it was the same with the last guy, you dont even need to look at anything else.
This isn't a good method, IMO.
The cheater in the video isn't just a bot, it's a human being playing *with a program* that occasionally takes charge and overrides their inputs to do a specific thing. So the human will still do things like inputting when they can't move. Also, as we can see, computer programs don't always recognize when they can't do something; the script tries to input three DPs during hitstun because it was programmed to react to button presses, not the actual situation as we'd perceive it.
Detective Broski is so cool, I should definitely pay him to find my wife. And I don't have a wife.
Broski, please expose this cheater "Septimius" has drive rush and perfect parry hack. Modern Akuma
Is all this cheating only a thing with pc or can they do this on ps5 as well sorry for sounding clueless
I swear, every time this dude loses he accuses people of cheating.
They need to ban the Hardware: then you will see people having their costly PC's no longer being able to play SF6 online.
Also I want to see the platform people are playing on or even select the platfom I want to crossplay with.
Not every PC player is a cheater but every cheater is a PC player.
I just wish console could optimize like PC so we’d have PC like performance since we don’t have the cheating issue PC has
From basketweaving shitposter to ace detective lmao. On a less flippant note, your intuition for this is pretty high.
I literally only get to play like twise a week cause of a levels and the little ranked I played was with a hacker. great! Hahaha
Great video
Connection looks good to me forty ping
I would stop the detect mode once I saw a chinese name and report lmfao