DIY Vinyl Gutters
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- I will be installing vinyl gutters onto the new addition in the back of our house. I will be showing how to do this yourself and the tools and materials you will need. Watch the video to see how it can be done.
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Thank you. I like your calm confident demeanor and of course the actual hanging of the gutter.
haha, thanks! I appreciate it!!
Thank you so much! I (had) a friend who's in the gutter business. He's promised for 4 years to do my 8' section with a down spout. He even told me what materials to get, and to add a 2x4 piece to the wood to the wood that's already there-I am tired of waiting and reaching out. ($$$ must not matter to him. :)). So, I have an extension ladder and all the materials. I didn't know what to do with some of the pieces but after watching your video, I think I can tackle it like a champ. I already said it, but another heart-felt, thank you. I should have looked this up long before now.
Thank you for the instructive video. A couple notes: 1) Screwing or even just gluing the seams may void any product warranty as vinyl gutters are made to expand and contract when installed per instructions with the correct manufacturer suggested fittings. Probably okay, definitely a better seal, but something to consider where temps range widely. 2) The manufacturer-suggested hanger spacing for most vinyl guttering is 2' in low snow/no snow areas, and 18" where higher snowfall is expected. 2'-3' might be fine, but, at over 2', you have more confidence in the product than those who make them. 3) Drop for gutters is between 1/8" to 1/2" per ten feet in most climate zones in the US, 1/2" being for very heavy rain zones. For most areas, 1/4" per 10' is fine, with one downspout for every 30' of run. Lastly, for those dealing with square-cut tails resulting in a canted fascia, there is a gizmo called a 'gutter fixer'. I am on a project now where the original installer used 2 -1x rippers to level the old galvanized gutter, one toward the bottom and a narrower one at the top. The problem was that they held the gutter out too far from the drip edge, and trapped water between the gutter and the fascia eventually caused a rot situation.
I'm guessing you're an engineer like me. I've installed the same vinyl gutters on two houses now, getting ready to do another 60 ft run and 20 ft run. I did have the canted fascia on my current house and I saw those wedges they sell pre-made however I opted to make my own essentially triangle wedges out of 2x4 and painted them white to match my fascia. I highly recommend this so that you don't have that offset from the facial you were talking about. I will say that that offset is only an issue at the beginning of the run as with the canted angle the lower regions of the run start to move further underneath the shingle drops, if you follow me. In regards to hanger spacing, I live in san diego ca and I have found every 3 feet is fine. I use single downspout for a 60 foot. Screws are a must for the downspout connections only, in my opinion, but use stainless steel #8 pan head sheetmetal screws, and locate them away from flow and on the back where possible so you dont see them
How low should your highest end off the gutter be from the roff
You are spot on about the expansion and this video is really misleading. You should not be gluing anything together or cutting a hole in the gutter for the downspout. Most people will be using the inner joining pieces too and he doesn't even cover that.
Loved just how simplified you made the process 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
Quite professionally filmed and narrated. Excellent info for a first time gutter installation.
Glad it was helpful! 😁
Thanks for the tutorial as this is what I’m gearing up for to be my next project and I’m scrawling notes like a madwoman, lol. 😂
How did it go? I’m wanting to do it by myself on an outbuilding… Just one side, but wondered how easy it was for one person to do…or did you have help? Thanks
@@freewaybaby haha, it was definitely a two person job but with a lot of trips up and down the ladder, dropping lots of things and a few colourful words, I got ‘er done! If you deal with snow, set the hangers up every 18” is what was recommended so this is what I did. Someone mentioned taking the Evestroughing down for the winter too. Which I did but left the hangers. And now the snow isn’t sliding off my steel roof without getting caught up on them. I asked the guy that mentioned taking them down and yup, he takes his hangers down. So next year, I’ll take them down too.
We can’t post links on the Tube now but if you go to my page and scroll through my videos, you’ll find my tutorial. Good luck, you can do it, if this 5’4” 125lb girl can do it without experience, promise, you can too.
Thank you. Your explanations were very helpful for the small but important tricks for these gutters.
Thank you! I’m so glad I could help :)
Awesome! Vinyl gutters came out perfect!
Thanks so much! 😁
THANK YOU! We have the same ones and are hanging them on our shed today and I was nervous!
You’re welcome! I hope it turned out great! 👍🏻
Great video. I ran 30 feet of gutter yesterday, alone lol. Was quite a challenge but was able to do it.
Nice work!
Nice job. I have a 25 ft. section to do on the rear of my house, the rains here in Florida are heavy and are seeping into the edge and under shingles. Thanks Simon
Thanks! :)
Overall, good video and instruction. It's always difficult to make caulking smooth, but you did great ! Thanks....
Thanks so much! :)
Terrific video! Thanks!
Thank you! 😄
Great easy to follow video.
Great video. Very instructive. Thank you.
Thank you! Glad it was helpful!
Amazing brother ! Mucho Thank you😁 👍
Welcome 👍
nice video simon.
Thanks for including the comments on where you had purchased gutter components.
I had a branch fall of a tree and now my gutter down spout is in 4 big pieces.
Went to the big box store where I had purchase my gutter components and they don't carry gutters in this size anymore.
But i do have others to check out now
Thanks! 😁 so glad the video was helpful!
Awesome! Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!!
Nice and clean work
Thanks!
This is a good video, good information..
Thanks! I’m glad it was helpful!
Outstanding ty
Thanks! 😁
The vinyl needs to exp[and and contract with temperature changes. Screws will prevent that movement. Won't the vinyl eventually crack?
Nice video, Simon.
Great video. Thanx
Glad you liked it!
Nice work
Thanks😄
Exactly the type of video I was looking for, even the same brand of eavestrough apparently, so thank you!! Only thing I would have liked to also see would have been a close up of how you fastened the clips to the fascia. Suscribed now too.
Now, at 7:50, the bottle hanging from the joist...what's that all about?!!
Awesome! I'm so glad to hear it and thank you for subscribing! Sorry about not showing a close up of the mounting. I just used regular 3/4 in exterior screws to mount directly to the fascia.
As for the jar hanging from the joist, That is a homemade carpenter bee trap. I had a bad problem with carpenter bees and they were starting to cause significant damage. Thankfully I no longer have any issue and the traps worked great!
See link below for the bee trap video I made.
th-cam.com/video/0BdULglrqkI/w-d-xo.html
Who did the shingles , thats a crazy shingle overhang
Not sure, but it was done several years before we bought the place. We will probably be replacing them in the next couple years. On another note the over hand makes it very hard to clean leaves out of the gutters...
Great video 👌
Thanks!! :)
great and simple info...thanks!!!!
I'm glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Wow-Fantastic video, thanks! A major help for me installang vinyl gutters on my shed. Q. what type of self tapping screws are you using? Size and length. Greetings from Greenville, NC.
Great job great video. Is vinal better than metal?
You allowed for no expansion and contraction during hot summers and cold winters (if you are where cold snow winters occur, say -30 degrees F. / C).
Most installers do not screw every part together for this reason.
thanks for video. I tried doing this up in the air and everything was wrong: slope, leaking joints, etc.
I'm thinking a pulley mounted to the fascia could hold a strap if you don't have a second person.
Don't know if it will work all that well but here goes nothing!
Thanks!
Yeah that can be difficult alone. You could also try mounting a short pice of wood on the underside of the facia to hold the gutter up while you mount it.
All Gutter Companies Are Vehemently Against Vinyl Gutters. (I Think I Know Why) Anyhow I'm Looking to install in an Addition that I'm Building Which I Think Should Be Fine. But I Wanted to how it has held up since you installed it? Any Issues ?? Pros/Cons?
It’s still holding up great. No issues yet but the could use a good pressure washing. This is a relatively short run of gutters so I’m not sure how this would work an entire house. Thanks for watching!
I would only like to suggest using pop rivets instead of screws. Will make it easier when you need to clean out the gutters. Pop Rivets work better especially on the downspout where the screws like to catch leaves.
that is a great Idea. I wish I had thought of that.
Thanks!
I loved the video. He explained every thing he was doing, except the one question i have. how far a part should the braces be set..
Thanks!
I placed a brace about 1 1\2 - 2 feet apart.
However, we don't get mech snow where we live so the load it has to support will be less. If you live in a climate that has a lot of snow and ice I would recommend a brace ever 1-1 1\2 feet.
Hope this helps!
12 inches from the edge and then every 24 inches afterwards
Thanks, Josh Bozarth!
Very nice video, thank you for it!
Thank you too!
It's my understanding that vinyl gutter "expends and contracts" due to temperature changes. The downspouts sections have temperature range "lines" on them to indicate were to set gutter when installing at the present temp. Gluing would obviously prevent this. Is this not true?
Wouldn't it be easier to install the hangers first at the proper slope then "click" the gutters in?
Good video
Thanks! :)
Hi.. I am a new home owner. Can I paint these vinyl gutters to my liking? What paint should I use? Should I use paint brush or roller? Please let me know.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Good video but I wish you would have shown actually screwing in to the roof the gutter.
Thanks! Sorry about that. You screw directly into the facia board under the roofline.
Great video. Could you confirm the types of elbows you used to connect the downspout drop outlet from the gutter to the wall? Is it 90 or 65 degree angle? Thanks
Excellent - thank you! Can you be specific on the type of caulk you used?
This was an exterior white silicone This is not water based so you can't just wash it off with water like regular caulk. Silicone stays soft and rubbery so it won't crack over time and end up leaking.
Must not get a lot of temperature fluctuations there. Glueing the drop and everything like that will prevent any possibility of expansion/contraction
How did you fit the inner miter like that. The one I have looks like you have to use the joiners on each side of the miter to connect the gutter.
Is the downspout more narrow compared to a standard 5-inch aluminum one?
Yes they are 1/2-1inch smaller than the metal downspouts.
cute!
Thanks
i had to finally do the front of house by front door and garage ,with my 10% discount my cost for supplies was 158.28 for 30 ft gutter and all fittings .i went with vinyl also . instead of the regular vinyl hangers i went with the steel hangers for strength . i pray the metal hangers work well , they are the same ones for the aluminum ones . whats your take on that please !
As long as the vinyl gutters fit the metal hangers it should work well! The metal hangers will defiantly be stronger than the plastic vinyl.
@@SimonSaysDIY i think i am the first to use the metal clips ,i was at home depot for a few hrs looking at all my choices ,fitting parts together in real time and in my head , there were pros and home owners ,some were loving my ideas and most said didnt know if it would work . .it rained and my gutters were full because i didnt cut the drainage hole to let water drain . wow ,the steel clips did their job of holding up the gutters . with the steel clips ,i put a slight 45^ bend on the front side to be even more effective ! .after a couple bad storms ,they look amazing ,work real good ,and what i like about the vinyl ,you can clean them up with WD-40 when done installing .i had a problem area with a tough scratch with orange paint in the grooves from home depot cart ,i used 150 sand paper to lightly take out the imperfection . on vinyl ,like vinyl siding ,the color goes all the way thru . for extra security i used 100% silicone to seal inside part of all connections .
Hello, thank you for sharing. Since you installed this three years ago. Are vinyl gutters holding up for you and still look good? Your update will be much appreciated.
I have vinyl gutters in place already but downspouts are missing on both small porches. How do you install downspouts on the end of a gutter instead of how it was shown in your video here?
Are the screws mounted into the fascia board or the beams behind the fascia board? Thank you!
They are screwed right to the fascia board. You shouldn’t need anything more than that unless the fascia board is loose. If that’s the case it would be best to enforce the fascia board with some screws before mounting the gutters.
Does the water puddle at the end cap since it's at the lowest point of the run?
Yes, but it is only a very small amount because the slope is very gradual.
What do you do to connect two down spouts together. Mine is about 14’ from the ground so I’ll need an extra piece. Thanks
Be careful when adding screws because they could hurt someone's hand who is cleaning the gutters. Thx
Thanks for the tip! I'll watch out for that.
Enjoyed your video but I would like to know the type and size of screws that you used. Also why did you vinyl
thank you
Sure, I used 1/2in stainless steel screws to help hold the gutter together. Being stainless screws they won't rust and stain the gutters. For the hanger screws I used 1 1/2in exterior screws to mount it onto the facia. I haven't used vinyl gutters before and wanted to see how they would work. Vinyl can be easier than metal options so it makes the perfect DIY project to share with others. These were also pretty short sections of gutters so I figured it would work well for a test run. So far they have worked great and other than cleaning out the leaves once, I haven'y had to touch them. :)
Very video
Many many thanks
What type of screws did you use to attached the gutter hangers?
I used exterior screws as they are exposed to moisture and may rust. the only need to be 1in-1.5in long.
How far apart between each hanger?
I did about every 2-3 feet. I down spouts and corners has places that mounted to the house as well.
I have an out-building where they left the rafter tails exposed. What should I put up to support gutters? I'm not having any luck finding gutter videos that don't use finished buildings.
you could just mount the gutter hangers to the outside of the rafter tails. they should be 16in apart if so just one hanger every other rafter. If they are 2-3 foot apart then one hanger on every rafter. you could also take 1x4 of 1x6 pine boards and nail those to the rafters and use that as the facia to mount the gutters. I hope this helps.
Thanks for watching!
@@SimonSaysDIY Thanks for writing. I'm surprised that hanging directly off the ends is an option. Closer examination shows the ends are 1/2" back of the paper, which is 1/2" back of the shingles. I'm thinking 1" x 5" fascia after sealing up the weathering ends. Great camera work.
@@Shalmaneser1 Thanks! That sounds Nellie a good plan. Good luck!
So from 4:55 to 4:57 there's the mysterious appearance of your metal snips--so you snipped off the top lip end of the gutter so that it fit into the inside corner piece better? But you did not do that to the other first gutter run to fit into the other side of the same inside corner piece?
Show top....what about drip edge
How do you get it behind the drip edge? Those plastic hangers are thicc.
If done right, the roof shingles will hand over the edge a few inches. This keeps water away from the house better and makes installing gutters easier. Thanks!
Is this good for winter? I leave in canada.
What kind of screws did you use to secure the pieces together and did you seal them?
I used 1/2in stainless steel screws so they wouldn’t rust and each joint I used a thick bead of white silicone to seal the seam.
Make vid of the rain barrels
I have the bathroom renovation right now, but I definitely will in a few weeks. Thanks!
Why are gutters not on every side of the roof?
You only need in on the down hill side of the roof. And even then it is really only needed on places where you walk under like entry ways. Gutters also help with drainage issues as it diverts all of the water from the roof to a safe area because water build up right next to the house can cause foundation damage and rot to wood over time.
what caulking did you use for overlaping gutter pieces
I used a white silicone caulking. This caulking stays rubbery and flexible after drying and is less likely to crack and start leaking.
You kept saying “glue” but I don’t know what product you mean. Is it just a water-based acrylic caulk or an actual adhesive product? Edit: from an earlier comment-reply I see that you used a white silicone caulk.
Yes, sorry about that, I used white silicone. This stays flexible and moves with the vinyl as it expands and shrinks.
My hangers keep coming unclipped from the lip of the gutter. It looks like yours is working and staying on...have you seen anyone have these issues before?
I haven't seen this issue before. However i can think of a few reasons this could be happening. first is how far apart are the hangers? if they are too far apart it will put too much stress on the hangers and may cause it to come un clipped. every 2-3 feet should be plenty. Second thing that could cause this is the gutters are getting too heavy. Is the gutter full of leaves or slanted the wrong way so that the it doesn't drain properly? If water builds up in it that may also be putting too much weight on it and causes it to unclip from the hangers.
hope this helps!
@@SimonSaysDIY I called the company and sent them a video of the clips coming undone with slight pressure using my fingers. They came back and wanted to validate the gutter and hanger paring to make sure they were the right ones and now they have escalated the issue for the next steps.
@@wildercreekhoney Nice! I hope they can replace the product or give your money back.
@@SimonSaysDIY The issue was the gutter itself. Returned the product and was able to test each gutter before exchanging them out for good ones.
I installed vinyl gutters and they were a big mistake. The worst is that they distort/warp/sag. When it rains, even a tiny low spot collects more water, weighing down, and collecting even more water, and eventually failing. The connectors leak, and overall it was a complete waste money. Taking them off now to replace them with metal. Do it once, do it right.
Vinyl Gutters are WAY better
they last way longer now than metal ones and dont bend and dent like metal
metal ones also are hard to seal and will leak . Vinyl will seal easly with the right compound or almost any. Metal ones suck . with metal ones they :
NEver seal properly unless a million conditions are met,
you have to bend them at joints, and the inner part gets reduced by 50 percent = CLOG
Thanks!! Yeah there are a lot of benefits to the vinyl gutters.
Can I add splash guards ?
Yeah I believe that wouldn't be a problem! I may also be adding a leaf guard to my gutters. I have had to clean them out twice already this fall.
What kind of screws are you using
Stainless half inch screws. that way they wont rust and stain the gutters.
Seems like it would only last a year or 2
Still lasting and no leaks. It could use a good pressure washing but other than that, no issues yet.
Type of glue used?
At 3:54, what end caps did you use? Can we purchase these?
If you have a drip edge, do you install under drip edge and run a screw through the drip edge?
I would install it below the drip edge because the drip edge won't allow it to sit level.
do i need to replace my roof shingles if i NEED to completely replace my gutters?
No, you can replace them separately as needed. If the roofing is in good shape there is no need to change that out. The gutters are only attached to the wood facia board at the edge of the roof and won't affect the roof if you remove the gutter and replace it.
Hope that helps.
Thanks!
Can a end cap fit over a downspout piece or 90 piece?
I don’t believe so… but at Lowes and Home Depot they should have all the pieces out and you can easily test it :)
Mesh screen cover so prevent leads and bracket ready need no tooling
Yeah, I have had to clean out the gutters twice since installing them so I have been thinking about installing some screens to keep the leaves out. Do you have any recommendations on what type to use?
Thanks!
@@SimonSaysDIY mesh textile. In my youth I use mesh cloth in almost everything from straining food prep to preventing invisible human from getting close without warning. Are you aware of invisible human yet? You should and it called stealth technology and so control your ego...
Not sure what part of the USA you live in but these gutters expand and contract too much in hotter climates. They warp from the heat and the sealer pulls away at the joints. My are always leaking at the seams. In the valley you will need a splash guard to keep the water from jumping over the gutter.
how did those seams hold up? Did they ever start leaking?
No leaks yet. Everything has held up great. :) I haven't had to touch them except cleaning the leaves out a few times.
Oh my... how high is that house! Good work though.
suite yourself but the seals do work great.
Thanks! I wasn't sure because the ones on the front of the house are leaky and I didn't install those. I thought I would be safe.
This video is very misleading. Tried installing videos using this as a guide and did not go as planned. Finally had to stop after spending four hours putting up first ten feet. Some of the brackets will not stay in the track of the hanger no matter what I tried to fix.
At 4:56 you connect the two pieces using the L piece. I noticed you connected each to the L without using the "joiner" pieces sold for this line of gutter ( the joiners have a gasket similar to the end caps ). Any particular reason why you didn't use joiners at this step?
Great video btw, enjoyed watching it!
One other critique. You mentioned the downhill drop should be about 1" per 10 ft I believe (5:45). However, this is very different from other typical recommended drops, including from the amerimax gutter manufacture instructions - they recommend 1/8" drop per 10 ft.
Thanks for watching! I chose to not use them because like I mentioned the gaskets didn't work well and the gutter fit inside the corner fitting pretty well without it. If the jointers are used I would recommend still using glue to seal and not only rely on the Gaskets.
Yeah, It really depends on how long of a stretch of gutters you are running. The facia board is typically 6-8 in tall and you can only drop a few inches before you run out of room to mount on the facia. This was such a short run that it allowed a steeper pitch. A steeper pitch will only allow the water to empty faster.
Thanks for the questions and feedback!
"purposeflee"? Did you say "..they designed it this way purposeflee"?
No, I believe I said Purposefully. :)
where is your drip edge?
How many screws did you put in to secure them to the house?
Just one per bracket and I placed a bracket every 16in or so.
Material list missing. What size screws…
Hi from where can I get this gutters ?
I purchased it from Lowes and I know Home Depot has something just like this. If you don't have access to ether, I would check at a hardware store.
@@SimonSaysDIY thanks
How do you attach gutters to the house?! You might want to show that clearly in your video.
With one screw through each bracket into the fascia board. Thanks for the feedback!
Yeah same here. I was disappointed he did not show that
WTF skipped the most important section. How to attach it to the roof?
Vinyl gutters are worthless anywhere temps get higher than 90 degrees. They warp and buckle.
it occasionally rises above that throughout the summer. I will keep an eye on it this next year. Thanks!
Are the vinyl, or pvc gutters better tham aluminium one's?
Done completely wrong. Follow manufacturer directions. Yours will buckle
I haven’t had any issues with mine and I
They have been up for years.
You do NOT seal drop spouts on vinyl gutters!!!!!! There HAS to be room for thermal expansion. Also you are supposed to use joiners to connect the corners.
ok
Thanks for watching!
I would do all cuts first before you glue to avoid messing it up