Dr. Dan Siegel - On Disorganized Attachment

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  • @allhailsunshine052
    @allhailsunshine052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    I’ve always envy ppl who live their life in peace and organized and able to have loving relationships

    • @ronbrown8611
      @ronbrown8611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I am the same. It hurts to know people live a much much better life than I could have.

    • @leichin5778
      @leichin5778 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel you mate.

    • @desireeluciano
      @desireeluciano ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me too

    • @edwinbliss5002
      @edwinbliss5002 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I sincerely believe you can obtain that life of peace but I don’t think it will be an easy road. Many psychologists call it forming an earned secure attachment.

    • @Chiochiopi
      @Chiochiopi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too... I usually feel broken

  • @sadie9386
    @sadie9386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I completely identify with this. It explains why, in adult relationships, when someone hurts me I want them to make me feel better. Instead of just leaving them , as I should.

    • @PaigeSquared
      @PaigeSquared หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. Even/especially my mom. I am learning what it even looks like to prioritize myself. I haven't ever been allowed, let alone required.

  • @selenefirme3626
    @selenefirme3626 5 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    Woah! That was my childhood. My dad would beat me. And then he would apologize and hug me. So he hugged me after beating me. Then he would cry out of guilt. Then I felt fear and pity at the same time....

    • @albertaatieno
      @albertaatieno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Would your father suddenly beat you for no discernible reason or was it for punishment?

    • @crappyaccount
      @crappyaccount 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@albertaatieno genuine question: does it really matter the reasoning why a parent would beat their kid?

    • @MBeastCV
      @MBeastCV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/HzI5vLBrX8A/w-d-xo.html
      This is a link to the next step if you truly need tools and want to move forward and take your time and let your own experience with your life push yourself.
      Past isn’t relevant but if it is still effecting you today then you’ll get over the world and let it go and be your favorite person and you can always get overwhelmed by the unknown but really focusing on what your point of view was then and remember that was then now what would you like and what your given and how you can make your own life yours again or for ever

    • @Laura-sn8iy
      @Laura-sn8iy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      my mom did this

    • @jine7123
      @jine7123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@crappyaccount You need not ask that question. It is never appropriate to beat anyone under any circumstances.

  • @kole1ful
    @kole1ful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This is almost every Nigerian Child. The parents and care givers who always beat, yell and talk you down, are the ones you’re supposed to run to when you have problems.

  • @vdlhgovd
    @vdlhgovd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I would like tothankmy parents for the wonderful job they did raising me: "the person they had to seek comfort from was also the person who caused them pain"

    • @weirdchamp4601
      @weirdchamp4601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It be like that

    • @malpaw2371
      @malpaw2371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My parents tried 🤷‍♂️. That’s really all parenting is.. trying your best. My parents gave me a decent childhood. I was clothed, fed, had a roof.
      Obviously their parents tried too and overtime with each successive generation you tend to try to do better than the last. I’ve heard stories of my abuelo and honestly compared to that my parents were saints. Yeah I never knew if I was gonna be screamed at or hugged but I knew I was going to be cared for

    • @AzianGirlXD
      @AzianGirlXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LMAO this made me laugh 💀 💀 but in all honesty, I hope everyone here in the comments reading this that you got this. The healing journey is never easy, but you can do it.

    • @syahrulzhafrel1909
      @syahrulzhafrel1909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey man.. High five! We are in the same team

    • @hellucination9905
      @hellucination9905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@malpaw2371 Stop excusing your bad parents. They did the minimum.

  • @aniokay
    @aniokay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    It's devastating how hard it is to get out of and work with. It is so hard. I am so mistrusting and suspicious of others - it takes so much of my energy.

    • @weirdchamp4601
      @weirdchamp4601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same I pretty much don’t trust anyone

    • @Lemoncare
      @Lemoncare หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just hate life.

  • @Cordial_Lump
    @Cordial_Lump 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    He mentions 3 options of a child reacting, but fawn is a recognized new fourth one. As someone who's more fawn/freeze, I felt it was necessary to mention it b/c it's helped me understand my brain so much more then just saying my reaction is Freeze. To find out more about this look up the 4 F's in response to growing up with a narcissistic parent.

    • @kchild71
      @kchild71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cordial_Lump Pete Walker

    • @Cordial_Lump
      @Cordial_Lump 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kchild71 yeah I need to buy that book real bad

    • @AR-ph7wf
      @AR-ph7wf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fight, flight, freeze,fawn,flop amd friend

    • @Cordial_Lump
      @Cordial_Lump 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AR-ph7wf lmao exactly

    • @baltazaribarra4262
      @baltazaribarra4262 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cordial_Lump you forgot wtF*ck

  • @albertodeulofeu5277
    @albertodeulofeu5277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Fuck. I thought my ex had an anxious attachment style, but maybe it’s actually a disorganized attachment style. Which is SO rare. I hope she gets better one day. Wish I knew this stuff before. If any of you are dealing with someone like this just be patient and make sure to reassure them and make them feel safe.

    • @Emanateyourmedicine
      @Emanateyourmedicine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      disorganized attachment is the NORM

    • @burritomaker69
      @burritomaker69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Emanateyourmedicine it’s not……it’s the rarest of them all.

    • @virginia4766
      @virginia4766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s not “so” rare. Where are you getting your info from?

    • @illogically
      @illogically 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      In this era, the rare ones would be "secure attachment style" now. Coz peoole be having insecure attachments and not even realize it

    • @Ramanhere468
      @Ramanhere468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She could have both. She could have had a disorganized-anxious attachment style. Which I have too 😅

  • @misssilverandgold
    @misssilverandgold 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My father would force me to play sports at a high level, and would scream at me/become enraged when I didn't do well in a tournament. He would also rage and yell at employees/workers, totally embarrassing me in public. After traumatizing me, he would apologize and say he didn't mean to.
    I was constantly left confused as a child....

  • @Joe-jc5ol
    @Joe-jc5ol ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was born during a very violent civil war. I guess despite my parent's best efforts I soaked up too much fear.

  • @johnryder8464
    @johnryder8464 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You shouldn't start a family if you have emotional problems it's not fair on your children, too often parents have kids for their own therapy which is a disgrace, trust me i speak from experience.

    • @celty5858
      @celty5858 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know what you mean. Growing up, my mother would say that she finally found someone to love her - in reference to me being born. As a kid, I used to think it was so sweet and that it was even my job to love her, but as an adult, I see it for what it is. 😞

  • @keylasantisteban6772
    @keylasantisteban6772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As I have continued to learn of my Borderline Personality Disorder diagnosis, I am learning that a lot of things make sense in terms of my attachment styles and my childhood trauma. Unfortunately, it created instability in my life, painful experiences and long term healing. I am now understanding the confusion I have been feeling and I feel seen. Thank you for this video.

  • @taylor_eqq
    @taylor_eqq ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My parents never hurt me often as a child, but my father left when I was about 12. He became emotionally distant as the years went on. He died in 2021 and it’s really taken a toll on me. I can’t form normal relationships because I assume they’ll leave me behind which scares me. I just want to be loved. I want to love. I just want to be happy

    • @johnryder8464
      @johnryder8464 ปีที่แล้ว

      Open your heart, people can't read a closed book.

    • @yanar1814
      @yanar1814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn’t figure out why i kept repeating same pattern in all my relationships and leave , few weeks ago cane across a tiktok video about attachment types and found out i have disorganised attachment as my parents got divorced when i was 2 and i only saw my dad in my teen years twice then he died in 2019 , struggled with wanting to love and be loved but at same time always feel that the person will leave me so i made up excuses to leave first

  • @BGivka
    @BGivka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So very sad. This explains so much. I could never relate to other people, relationships are very difficult.

  • @bryanstark324
    @bryanstark324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    This is where the child experiences ambivalence and learns to repress their contradictory thoughts and feelings in order to fit in with the family unit. But that coping strategy really makes it difficult to form mature relationships because they continue to practice repressing their feelings. This usually manifests in the Borderline Personality Disorder. That may be only my theory but I would like PsychAlive to find Dr. Siegal to see if more videos can be created to clarify these possibilities.

    • @flyingphotography5770
      @flyingphotography5770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @ Bryan Agree with your first couple of thoughts ... repression of contradictory thoughts and future relationship difficulty. But as far as BPD, not so sure. CPTSD is many times mistakenly diagnosed as BPD. Practitioners in the trauma fields will typically say there are some similarities between the two, but they are distinctly different.

    • @saumitrsharma2816
      @saumitrsharma2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flyingphotography5770 it's more or less same.

    • @aryl2394
      @aryl2394 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, I have disorganized attachment style but (luckily!) No bpd

  • @shivangibhardwaj3051
    @shivangibhardwaj3051 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I didn't realise that the relationship between my parents also affected me so much. My dad still yells at my mom and then apologises to her later and says actions are the proof of his love not words. He has been. providing for her his whole life but guilt trips her constantly . And I was supposed to seek out this man with my problems. Hes 70 and retired now but uses guilt as his weapon against his family . I felt pity for him as well due to his job keeping him away for months at a time. The video explains the push-pull really well.

    • @simondennis9460
      @simondennis9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally relate to this. My mother was psychotic and violent in my childhood but then would guilt trip me not to tell anyone, so basically i was holding her violence, shame and conflicting messages whilst she was just a persona.

  • @anabellklopfer1885
    @anabellklopfer1885 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great film with very good and understandable explanation

  • @Cpattersondesign
    @Cpattersondesign ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who struggles with this thanks so much for speaking about it so I can better explain how I am and why to others I want to connect with

  • @michellefalco9773
    @michellefalco9773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think it all spills into adult relationships-whether its being abused molested critisized-its traumatic-parents are our foundation and blue print as far as intimacy goes and how we view love-a lot of people run from relationships and are hot and cold to self protect, sometimes they arent even aware of it...at some point its on a subconscious level-very sad unstable and unchanging if you dont do the work. Avoidants will feel a lot better in relationships they dont have intense emotions for-if they begin to catch strong feelings for someone they begin to detach-I speak from experience-I was with one and its a lot of inconsistency-a bit of narsasism but because of the childhood and how unstable it was....i have no choice but to have empathy. They battle with depression anxiety as most of us do but on another level-

  • @satsumamoon
    @satsumamoon 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. Thank you.

  • @moneyisforpoorpeople
    @moneyisforpoorpeople 10 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    My mom should never have had children, she has BPD and this Dan here describes with interpriting threats from non-threatning gestures explains alot for me - on the plus side i'm very good at reading situations and people, and always been - but i'm completely broken when it comes to relationships. And it seems these sort of things can make you a target for manipulation from narcissists - people surely are exceptional at being shit.

    • @neuroticgypsy
      @neuroticgypsy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unfortunately what you are saying has statistical data to back it up. Mother's who did not tend to their babies needs have children that grow up with lack of trust/insecurity towards intimate partners. These are the people I tend to call "commitmentphobes". They want the love, but at the same time fear it, unsure that the love is "real".

    • @karenr1643
      @karenr1643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The good thing is that even though we can have a certain attachment style we can become a healthy secure adult

    • @saumitrsharma2816
      @saumitrsharma2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karenr1643 That is not true.

    • @billyb4790
      @billyb4790 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can relate to this. I'm middle aged and I've never had a relationship past six months. I'm trying hard to "heal"....whatever that is supposed to mean. Doing lots of work.

  • @lauralynnmclean4593
    @lauralynnmclean4593 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for explaining this in such simple terms. As a person looking to work in the mental health field, I can see how the common "High 5" action could be misinterpreted.

    • @Sunset553
      @Sunset553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hadn’t made the connection. omg This would explain why I never responded with a high 5. It always seemed so distasteful, like “why does this person think they can do this to me?!” I don’t know what started it, but I’m old enough that high-5-ing wasn’t a thing, then it was. It was like if the world decided that spitting on someone’s face was the new greeting. I was criticized for being unfriendly. Well I feel a little better now.

  • @FreeJulianAssange23
    @FreeJulianAssange23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This makes so much sense. My dad was in a car accident when I was 2 weeks old which caused Schizophrenia, he thought my mom was a witch and kept taking off with me. My mom has had problems with Rage, migraines and OCD I never had emotions growing up though and I follow people and rely on the which they get mad

    • @jacobb8397
      @jacobb8397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also have a parent with symptoms of schizophrenia and another one with emotional regulation problems. I am sorry you had to experience this, as I know from first hand that it can affect you deep into adulthood as well as growing up.

  • @lupitagarza4213
    @lupitagarza4213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a secure attachment to both my parents, I wanted my children to have the same but my late husband had the opposite with his parents so it was really tough for our kids. I still feel he was a good dad, he really work super hard to be the opposite of his parents. I later discovered that is why I would mother him even tho he became abusive to me, not our kids.

  • @Ikr2025
    @Ikr2025 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What annoys me most (I have a LOT of anger) is that my mother had this assumption that she was doing a great job as a mother. She just has this self satisfied attitude that ‘she did her best’ and our lives were good as a result. We out lives weren’t good. Mine wasn’t good and I’m now permanently dysregulated as an adult. Her dysfunctional parenting style along with my father’s has effectively disabled me as an adult and I’m furious about it. I can’t focus on anything long enough to achieve anything. While she smugly sails on in her narcissistic DIsorganised Attachment style setting her next goal to benefit herself, I’m struggling to get from one day to the next. Her father sexually abused her and was a rage/alcoholic and her mother was a narcissistic only child depressed af - and my mother thought she could be a good parent with that background?? Ffs. She really thought she had it down pat. She just had to tick all those boxes - dinner made tick, bath run, tick stories read at night, tick, kids in bed by 7pm tick (get us out of the way you see), swim lessons booked check, send us away for holidays so she could take a break (but say its for our benefit) - tick, all fkn done. Dad - narcissistic af and not there. He was the type of person who drowned our cat’s first litter of kittens in a bucket of cold water and called himself a Christian. Cruel f*kwit. No compassion, no empathy just cruelty and getting on with getting on. My mother’s main passion is now her damn dog (can’t speak you see) and her fkg furniture (got to put on a good show for visitors). Now I have rage bubbling away underneath - rage because she assumed that children didn’t have any actual emotional needs. Just food & a roof over their head. Spoilt! Well I did. And now I can barely function - constantly getting activated. Makes me angry that I’m paying for her refusal to do any emotional healing (big waste of time in her eyes you see). She had a mental breakdown at age 48. Her conclusion once she was calmed down by meds? She was being too sensitive and she didn’t need to be sensitive it was a waste of time. Idiot. Now I’m paying the damn price. Now she’s an old lady with increasing health problems (because she ignored her health) and I don’t know how to relate to her. She’s done nothing wrong you see. A perfect mother and a perfect person. A perfect citizen. So why don’t I want to see her? Why don’t I want to invite her over? Because she never met any of my emotional needs so now I have no emotional connection. Its what she wanted isn’t it? Not to worry - my brother is also a DA and a narc so she can rely on him and they can put each other on pedestals. They’re both so perfect you see. 🤷‍♀️

    • @ArchiduquesaMA
      @ArchiduquesaMA 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your mother did pretty good for the fucked up life she had

    • @DanielaRosenrot
      @DanielaRosenrot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @face-in-the-crowd
    @face-in-the-crowd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Lots of fearful avoidant kids are going to come out of covid-19

    • @kristen6207
      @kristen6207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you think that? More abuse in homes during quarantine or kids seeing more fear?

    • @face-in-the-crowd
      @face-in-the-crowd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kristen6207 Unfortunately more abuse in homes due to signs being missed at school because they are done online, parents under pressure from loosing work, lack of seeing social facial expressions, general anxiety that is now all around us, witnessing protests etc (to a 3 year olds eyes that would look very scary). Thinking that people around them will die if they cough. Sad times ahead
      I remember reading something about a boy who was about 8 and he was on a pc, it just so happened that when he pressed enter a local earthquake happened...he thought he caused it for years

    • @randyw7237
      @randyw7237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Societal fear. Constant hammering about the virus everywhere, b
      Not seeing faces! Even at school. Wine Moms getting worse due to lock down. Social media time increase for millennial parents, being gaslighted and lied to by governments about aspects of virus by authority( parental proxies) and the tattling on others for saying the empowers have no clothes ( scapegoating whistle blowers). Shall I go on? If you’re older, you understand these things due to experience.

    • @erinm3567
      @erinm3567 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, by design.

  • @cranberryjuice1589
    @cranberryjuice1589 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One time my parents literally shattered glass all over the living room floor because they were fighting over who would drive me to school 😭

  • @alsfowafafwajg
    @alsfowafafwajg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is briljant. It’s so clear.

  • @ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool
    @ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video :)

  • @geralldus
    @geralldus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful, thank you.

  • @Sunset553
    @Sunset553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I fought kids when I was a kid, until 7th grade. I wanted to be friends with a specific girl, but one day she was ignoring me. At first, maybe she couldn’t hear me, so I started grabbing her arm, shaking her. She still wouldn’t look over and I started punching her arm. She still didn’t look . I realized in the middle of it that no one else was hitting anyone. I was a little confused, but I stopped. I walked away. I’m pretty sure we never spoke again. I forget sometimes that I used to hit people. I wonder if cursing at someone is psychologically or neurologically an act of violence.

  • @juice_lime5114
    @juice_lime5114 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fight response is terrifying. It explodes like a wild beast that is on the defense for survival, reacting to the sight of helplessness with blinding rage. Then when you try to get yourself back, you find yourself on the verge of losing consciousness.

  • @dr.hamidrezahashemimoghadam
    @dr.hamidrezahashemimoghadam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic

  • @philadelphiawalksptsd
    @philadelphiawalksptsd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Philadelphia Walks PTSD 🙏💗👑

  • @flawedfello
    @flawedfello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Could this be caused by emotional neglect instead of some form of abuse?

    • @duck7237
      @duck7237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes, it definitely can. Although, most professionals would argue that emotional neglect IS abuse. In fact, studies have shown it to be a particularly insidious form of abuse that has a profound physiological and emotional impact on the "victim" later in life when compared to those who experienced physical or sexual abuse. Don't get me wrong, all types of abuse can have a devastating impact upon the recipients. But for years it was assumed that the most detrimental types, were those "obvious" types that left scars and could not be denied. It has been found that the resulting mental healh issues that arise from these types of abuses are more treatable due to their tangible nature (ie she actually has the physical scars to prove her particular brand of torture). Those that experience emotional neglect have no proof beyond their own memories and they are prone to gaslighting themselves as a result. Emotional neglect is often paired with having other physical needs met such as healthcare, education, clean house, nutritious food, birthday presents etc (think a parent with Narcissism or other severe mental health disorder who have a deep desire to paint a positive public personality, but who struggles to maintain these standards within the privacy of the family home). Having a childhood submerged in these constant conflicting narratives, can rewire a child in a most diabolical way. The evidence of which is often not apparent until many years later. As a result, it is becoming more and more apparent that emotional neglect (particularly during childhood years) can result in severe, difficult to treat mental health conditions in adulthood that require a lifetime of treatment.

    • @flawedfello
      @flawedfello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@duck7237 Thanks bunches! Sending appreciation your way!

  • @maydaamch5225
    @maydaamch5225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg.. i feel terrible hearing this ..any help dr Dan?

  • @ElleBee1315
    @ElleBee1315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I misinterpret everythiiiiing it’s good awful and I have no regulatory system for my own emotions and I take on others emotions being disorganized is one of the most challenging parts to fix especially when it comes to relationships because a lot of people do not understand it

    • @hursimear3408
      @hursimear3408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a huge crush on someone who is disorganized. She already canceled two of our dates (we have not met yet) but she has opened up to me a lot over text and says she “wants a bf” but is “skiddish”. Any advice for me? Im patient, but I’m also scared she’ll never give me a chance. She seems happy to text me. She’s also very poor at conversation so she says. I reeeaally like her tho

  • @Lotuslaful
    @Lotuslaful หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤thank you ❤

  • @hellucination9905
    @hellucination9905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My father acted like he wanted to attack me with an axe to frighten me. I was a small child. I felt like he wanted to kill me. After this moment nothing was the same.

  • @57IAM
    @57IAM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grew up with a schizophrenic mother. I turned out...tough. I am Fucking strong.

  • @eastbaysf
    @eastbaysf 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I never saw my parents talk without fighting not even once.. it was always very volatile and nasty to be around them. My sister never spoke to me and my brother cut me out of my life very early on.. what am I? I am In a good relationship but suffer from fear of criticism in any form.. What is my attachment?

    • @neuroticgypsy
      @neuroticgypsy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      insecure attachment ( fear of abandonment/rejection)

    • @eastbaysf
      @eastbaysf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny ,,, I love being alone...,,I have made my life great by myself and don't need my family, they have never abandoned me,, I have abandoned them for the reasons of abuse and telling me I am a loser...when in fact I have been very successful,, I live in the USA and they live in the UK.. I am not so much insecure more sensitive to criticism since I have had to prove myself so much so often alone. What is fear of criticism? is that an attachment style. I have accepted their rejection and don't fear it,,, but the criticism kills me.. the lies/assumptions about things they know nothing about! I fear being misunderstood. not rejected, they have done that already,

    • @neuroticgypsy
      @neuroticgypsy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      most likely a control issue then.

    • @DudelikeYEAH100
      @DudelikeYEAH100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eastbaysf sounds like hyper independence

    • @baizawai
      @baizawai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eastbaysf i know this is old, but dismissive avoidant IMO

  • @Jazeraca
    @Jazeraca 9 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You described me perfectly to a T. I've been dx'd with BPD but another mental health professional thinks I'm just dealing with trauma from abuse. It is what it is. I have a 4 week old daughter. Please please please help me. I don't want my daughter to have the disorganized trauma I deal with. i don't think I'd ever abuse her but I do look frightened quite often. I am hypervigilent. My mother was physically (was thrown down the stairs a few times, smacked, punched, hair) and emotionally abusive (called me useless and a cow a lot). My father was controlling and used religion to stiffle us by telling my brother and I that we were going to burn in hell constantly.
    Anyway, I don't want this for my daughter. Any resources to resolve my own trauma would be appreciated. I want her to have a decent, normal life that I never had. I cannot fuck up her life like my parents did mine. I cannot allow this. Someone please help.

    • @Joshuarcade
      @Joshuarcade 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How are you Star Fiend? I hope all is well, by the time stamp of this comment your child would be 3 by now? How are things???

    • @yasjasmin8018
      @yasjasmin8018 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Star Fiend forget the past what hapen to you I sujest only a good rligen like yahove withnesses can help you ,u can find them also in internet ,God bless you there in Christianity there is not hele

    • @kristine8338
      @kristine8338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dear Star Friend, this very instant you can give your daughter music. The very soft slow gentle music on YT Will do. Clean up your house, bring Christmas atmosphere in your house, encourage her to draw, write or read her sweet stories before going to bed... Invite now and then a friend of her from school to bake pancakes together. You can dress these pancakes with smiling faces. This visit Does not have to take long. Shut down the TV. Play with her, make a walk in the park, talk to her about her dreams. Tell her She is beautiful and good. Hug her, talk in a positive way. See the positive and make the positive as big as you can. It Will become bigger and bigger and the negative Will lose its space and become smaller and smaller... the moment you fight your own demons, put on soft sweet music from YT. Chopin, Mozart, Lovesongs. Last but not least ask for help to G-d, or the Universe, ask for guidance, lift your spirit upwards and never, ever give up Hope. This works. 🐣🎄🦋

    • @boxelder9167
      @boxelder9167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s not what happens to us that messes us up as much as what we believe about ourselves and others as a result. Pay attention to the inner dialogue you have with yourself. I find whenever I have a negative emotion there is a negative belief about myself attached. So something happens and I feel stupid. The belief is I am stupid. But what is the truth? It feels true but it isn’t true. Then I replace that with a truth statement about myself like, “Reasonably intelligent people still make mistakes and I am a reasonably intelligent person, in fact there are a lot of things I can do very well.” I have to do this for each belief as I discover them and practice until it becomes automatic. Then when I get triggered my brain will follow the new path and I don’t stay stuck in the old broken beliefs. Better beliefs produce better results.
      You are a kind and caring person who had broken parents but you are aware and are making changes to become even better. Love the hurt child inside of you the same as you love your own child. Give the child inside permission to make mistakes and to grow and develop the same as you will do for your own. You are a survivor who is learning how to live. Let the little survivor inside you know that it can rest now and that you are going to do everything you can to take care of it’s needs.
      I wish you newfound joy on your journey of healing and restoration.

    • @ALGARIC
      @ALGARIC หลายเดือนก่อน

      How’s your daughter? It’s been 9 years.

  • @gabrielakessler5116
    @gabrielakessler5116 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does someone know the effect of first scure attachment of a child, then loss of the father at 18 month and then loss of the mother at 23 month due to illegal child abduction abroad on the attachment system of the child?.

    • @adssuk4592
      @adssuk4592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Read “The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog,” by Dr. Bruce Perry. He talks about a study of two different groups of children. The first had secure attachment for the first months of life, but then ran into much more difficult circumstances for years after. The second had insecure attachment for the first months of life, but then experienced significant improvement in their circumstances in the following years. Which group do you think did better later in life? The first group did. Those early months are very influential.

    • @gabrielakessler5116
      @gabrielakessler5116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adssuk4592 Thank you!

  • @tomgoldswain3
    @tomgoldswain3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In which book does he discuss this?

  • @Lioness_of_Gaia
    @Lioness_of_Gaia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    FAWN, or learned helplessness is also "an F" in this. There are 4.

    • @p.rabbitt4914
      @p.rabbitt4914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be categorized as "freeze."

    • @Lioness_of_Gaia
      @Lioness_of_Gaia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And your source? Pete Walker has a book about this. One of my favorite. Freeze is a short term, instant response. Fawn is long term. More akin to stockholmes..

    • @p.rabbitt4914
      @p.rabbitt4914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Lioness_of_Gaia Dan Siegel, the Developing Mind, specifically polyvagal stress responses. The reason this is described in terms of fight, flight, or freeze is based on our instantanious response to stress & the decreased capacity of our brains to function outside of these limited pathways.
      I believe fawning would be a long term habit or strategy for dealing with stress but isn't a characteristic of the polyvagal nerve response that temporarily arrests the full application of brain functioning in an alarming / stressful situation.

    • @Lioness_of_Gaia
      @Lioness_of_Gaia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p.rabbitt4914 that was written in 2012.... I think I get your point, but don't feel that fawning should be left out due to how you specifically framed it. I am much more interested in getting useful information out to help people than in getting stuck on old paradigms and ego.

    • @Lioness_of_Gaia
      @Lioness_of_Gaia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p.rabbitt4914 Now that I look, Pete Walker's book was only one year later..... Still, it bothers me when helpful info is "poo poo'd" in favor of semantics that fit old belief systems that seem more ego driven and self serving or coddling those who disdain cognitive dissonance instead of dishing out simple remedies to those who would rather watch a 10 minute video instead of read a book.

  • @christinebadostain6887
    @christinebadostain6887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I LOVE the place from which Dr. Siegel is coming, however, people in the scientific field seem to almost exclusively focus on the brain and I would submit that until we include the heart, and, particularly the "second brain" in the conversation, we are missing some much deeper elements of emotional coherence

    • @vulc7500
      @vulc7500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All emotion emerges from the brain. The closest thing to an independently functioning organ are your intestines.

    • @christinebadostain6887
      @christinebadostain6887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, Tsou, for your "thoughts" however, I believe from experience, that emotion is an energy emanating from the solar plexus that inspires the "head."

    • @vulc7500
      @vulc7500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't really want to argue so this will be my last comment. I understand that you believe that, and you might have made a connection with whatever you have experienced, but many people's experience can say otherwise, we only have facts to look at to represent the world accurately because human's tendency to prescribe superstition that is inconsistent with other human beings leaks into our perception of reality. You can chose to believe what you want, but if you want to think critically and be taken seriously with your hypothesis and conclusions about your claim, you need facts. Science should and will reliably flush out superstition and ill-based conclusions with the scientific method. This is why science is our best attempt at understanding the world we live in. Regardless of what we feel about it. Bad ideas do not respond well to pressure and if you get anything out of this reply, it's that you could in your own time, pressure your own ideas. Only by failing to disprove your hypothesis, can you reliably conclude it's correct.

    • @christinebadostain6887
      @christinebadostain6887 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for your thoughts, Tsou

    • @christinebadostain6887
      @christinebadostain6887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @TheEmpowHer AGREED

  • @maniok1977
    @maniok1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Familiar...💔

  • @Fonzi79
    @Fonzi79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im 41 and Tik tok brought me here... This is me just realized about myself o all these yrs

    • @theTutenstien
      @theTutenstien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont know which one is sadder, that you were abused as a kid or you are 41 and watching tik tok

    • @Fonzi79
      @Fonzi79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theTutenstien I wasn't abused and I know all different ages on tik tok asshole... you obviously know nothing about tiktok to sit there and talk shit about it

    • @theTutenstien
      @theTutenstien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fonzi79 Hahahaha Im just kidding

  • @Main.Account
    @Main.Account 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IYKYK

  • @Sunshineandlollipops800
    @Sunshineandlollipops800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This explains a lot about me

  • @blue_moon6490
    @blue_moon6490 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was/am still terrified of my mother. I am 55 years old. I finally went no contact 5 years ago.

  • @mina5142
    @mina5142 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about people who interpret being physically abused and controlled as love? Why are they doing that?

  • @animalfinatic9366
    @animalfinatic9366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you resolve this?

    • @Prettyordying
      @Prettyordying 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you find the answer please let me know

    • @animalfinatic9366
      @animalfinatic9366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Prettyordying I will definitely try

    • @davidwood321
      @davidwood321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just watched a video by Dr Daniel Brown. I don't know if you've heard of him. He claims they're developed techniques to heal . I just found out about it today and did an exercise/meditation called idealised parental imagination or something like that, which is supposed to to install a new positive attachment experience. His group also has a website called the Attachment Project.

    • @Matthew25662
      @Matthew25662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would highly recommend two books:
      "Running On Empty" by Dr. Jonice Webb, a nurturance/neglect book and
      "Trauma And Recovery" by Dr. Judith Herman, a trauma/recovery book
      These were eye-opening to me, maybe they will be for you, too.

  • @shaka4708
    @shaka4708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    maybe i have this shit. im kinda sacred.

  • @scottthomas5819
    @scottthomas5819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @pauld4355
    @pauld4355 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't think that you can connect these things with mirror neurons.

  • @sparkaleshish
    @sparkaleshish ปีที่แล้ว

    This is me

  • @DorMeles
    @DorMeles 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OMG my ex was like this when I would raise my hand

  • @antiprismatic
    @antiprismatic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am showing up so fucking late to the game. I am surprised there are actually good coherent tenets coming from psychology.

  • @klattalexis
    @klattalexis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    freeze

  • @flashman2
    @flashman2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this covert narcissist? .How would you know the difference?

  • @BeatriceGatta
    @BeatriceGatta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah but where is the example of the disorganized child?

  • @EmA-sm8se
    @EmA-sm8se 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Me

  • @TK-fm5ud
    @TK-fm5ud ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow we used to be fish in caves??

  • @katjathesaurus3800
    @katjathesaurus3800 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arque. No one arque anymore? ...

  • @arwyncarpenter14
    @arwyncarpenter14 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% ugh

  • @joyceharris9296
    @joyceharris9296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So what is the point of pointing this out and not providing solutions?
    Humans seek healing.
    Spirit to spirit means God can help heal. Amen?
    Person to person means healthy relationships can enable healing.